THE WALLACE GENETIC FOUNDATION THE WALLACE GENETIC FOUNDATION AND BY THE CHARLES A. FRUEAUFF THE WALLACE GENETIC FOUNDATION AND BY THE CHARLES A. FRUEAUFF FOUNDATION.

AND BY THE CHARLES A. FRUEAUFF FOUNDATION.

>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE FOUNDATION.

>> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" >> THIS WEEK ON "TO THE CONTRARY" FIRST, BIRTHING IN THE WILD.

CONTRARY" FIRST, BIRTHING IN THE WILD.

THEN, POPE FRANCIS SAYS FIRST, BIRTHING IN THE WILD.

THEN, POPE FRANCIS SAYS CATHOLICS SHOULD HAVE CHILDREN, THEN, POPE FRANCIS SAYS CATHOLICS SHOULD HAVE CHILDREN, NOT PETS.

CATHOLICS SHOULD HAVE CHILDREN, NOT PETS.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN'S NOT PETS.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT SPURS ECONOMIC HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL WELCOME TO "TO THE CONTRARY," A DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE DISCUSSION OF NEWS AND SOCIAL TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

TRENDS FROM DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, BIRTHS AT HOME AND PERSPECTIVES.

UP FIRST, BIRTHS AT HOME AND BIRTHS IN THE WILD UP FIRST, BIRTHS AT HOME AND BIRTHS IN THE WILD LIFETIME TV, THE COMMERCIAL BIRTHS IN THE WILD LIFETIME TV, THE COMMERCIAL WOMAN-ORIENTED CABLE CHANNEL, IS IT WAS INSPIRED BY AN ONLINE IT WAS INSPIRED BY AN ONLINE VIDEO OF AN AUSTRALIAN WOMAN IT WAS INSPIRED BY AN ONLINE VIDEO OF AN AUSTRALIAN WOMAN AND UP TO MORE THAN 2% FOR WHITE VIDEO OF AN AUSTRALIAN WOMAN AND UP TO MORE THAN 2% FOR WHITE WOMEN, WHO ARE A LOT MORE LIKELY AND UP TO MORE THAN 2% FOR WHITE WOMEN, WHO ARE A LOT MORE LIKELY THAN WOMEN OF COLOR TO GIVE WOMEN, WHO ARE A LOT MORE LIKELY THAN WOMEN OF COLOR TO GIVE BIOME WITH A MIDWIFE.

THAN WOMEN OF COLOR TO GIVE BIOME WITH A MIDWIFE.

WHY IS HOME BIRTHING ON THE BIOME WITH A MIDWIFE.

WHY IS HOME BIRTHING ON THE RISE.

WHY IS HOME BIRTHING ON THE RISE.

>> BONNIE, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO RISE.

>> BONNIE, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

>> BONNIE, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.

I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THIS IS A KNOW.

I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THIS IS A HAPLESS FAD THAT WILL FADE I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THIS IS A HAPLESS FAD THAT WILL FADE BEFORE SOMEBODY DIES.

HAPLESS FAD THAT WILL FADE BEFORE SOMEBODY DIES.

>> FINALLY WE AGREE ON BEFORE SOMEBODY DIES.

>> FINALLY WE AGREE ON SOMETHING.

>> FINALLY WE AGREE ON SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, IT IS ON THE RISE.

SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, IT IS ON THE RISE.

I THINK IT IS A FAD.

YOU KNOW, IT IS ON THE RISE.

I THINK IT IS A FAD.

THERE IS SOME CONCERN PEOPLE I THINK IT IS A FAD.

THERE IS SOME CONCERN PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THE SUPER BUGS GOING THERE IS SOME CONCERN PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THE SUPER BUGS GOING IN TO THE HOSPITALS BUT IT IS HAVE ABOUT THE SUPER BUGS GOING IN TO THE HOSPITALS BUT IT IS MUCH SAFER TO HAVE YOUR BABY IN IN TO THE HOSPITALS BUT IT IS MUCH SAFER TO HAVE YOUR BABY IN THE HOSPITAL THAN IT IS AT HOME.

MUCH SAFER TO HAVE YOUR BABY IN THE HOSPITAL THAN IT IS AT HOME.

>> TO THE POINT OF WHY.

THE HOSPITAL THAN IT IS AT HOME.

>> TO THE POINT OF WHY.

MANY WOMEN ARE CONCERNED BY OVER >> TO THE POINT OF WHY.

MANY WOMEN ARE CONCERNED BY OVER MEDICALIZATION OF CHILD BIRTH MANY WOMEN ARE CONCERNED BY OVER MEDICALIZATION OF CHILD BIRTH THEY FEEL THAT IS HAPPENING.

MEDICALIZATION OF CHILD BIRTH THEY FEEL THAT IS HAPPENING.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A SURPRISE THEY FEEL THAT IS HAPPENING.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A SURPRISE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS I DON'T THINK IT'S A SURPRISE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TOE HOME BIRTHING ARE WOMEN WITH THAT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TOE HOME BIRTHING ARE WOMEN WITH MORE MONEY.

TOE HOME BIRTHING ARE WOMEN WITH MORE MONEY.

>> WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE MORE MONEY.

>> WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE SHOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I THOUGHT >> WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE SHOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I THOUGHT CREATED BY GROUP THAT WAS TRYING SHOW, FOR EXAMPLE, I THOUGHT CREATED BY GROUP THAT WAS TRYING TO CRITIQUE THE HEALTH CARE CREATED BY GROUP THAT WAS TRYING TO CRITIQUE THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

TO CRITIQUE THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

THEY DO ACTUALLY HAVE MEDICAL SYSTEM.

THEY DO ACTUALLY HAVE MEDICAL PEOPLE ON STAFF THAT CAN JUMP IN THEY DO ACTUALLY HAVE MEDICAL PEOPLE ON STAFF THAT CAN JUMP IN IF NEEDED.

PEOPLE ON STAFF THAT CAN JUMP IN IF NEEDED.

>> GETTING CARE, WHY IS IT WHITE IF NEEDED.

>> GETTING CARE, WHY IS IT WHITE WOMEN WHO ARE DOING THIS MORE >> GETTING CARE, WHY IS IT WHITE WOMEN WHO ARE DOING THIS MORE THAN PERSONS OF COLOR, WOMEN OF WOMEN WHO ARE DOING THIS MORE THAN PERSONS OF COLOR, WOMEN OF COLOR, I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT THAN PERSONS OF COLOR, WOMEN OF COLOR, I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT DIFFERENCE.

COLOR, I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT DIFFERENCE.

>> THAT'S A FASCINATING DIFFERENCE.

>> THAT'S A FASCINATING QUESTION.

>> THAT'S A FASCINATING QUESTION.

GOING IN TO THE DEEP HISTORY, QUESTION.

GOING IN TO THE DEEP HISTORY, ABSOLUTELY WAS MORE OFTEN WOMEN GOING IN TO THE DEEP HISTORY, ABSOLUTELY WAS MORE OFTEN WOMEN OF COLOR WHO WERE GIVING BIRTH ABSOLUTELY WAS MORE OFTEN WOMEN OF COLOR WHO WERE GIVING BIRTH AT HOME WITH MIDWIVES.

OF COLOR WHO WERE GIVING BIRTH AT HOME WITH MIDWIVES.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS, THERE WAS AT HOME WITH MIDWIVES.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS, THERE WAS REGULATION AND BIRTH CAME TO BE WHAT HAPPENED WAS, THERE WAS REGULATION AND BIRTH CAME TO BE MORE AND MORE MEDICAL EVENT IN REGULATION AND BIRTH CAME TO BE MORE AND MORE MEDICAL EVENT IN THE HOSPITAL.

MORE AND MORE MEDICAL EVENT IN THE HOSPITAL.

THESE DAYS NOW IRONICALLY ENOUGH THE HOSPITAL.

THESE DAYS NOW IRONICALLY ENOUGH THE ONLY WOMEN WHO HAVE ACCESS THESE DAYS NOW IRONICALLY ENOUGH THE ONLY WOMEN WHO HAVE ACCESS TO HOME BIRTH IF THEY WANT IT, THE ONLY WOMEN WHO HAVE ACCESS TO HOME BIRTH IF THEY WANT IT, SETTING ASIDE THE MERITS IF THAT TO HOME BIRTH IF THEY WANT IT, SETTING ASIDE THE MERITS IF THAT IS A GOOD IDEA ARE WOMEN WHO SETTING ASIDE THE MERITS IF THAT IS A GOOD IDEA ARE WOMEN WHO HAVE MORE MONEY, TEND TO BE IS A GOOD IDEA ARE WOMEN WHO HAVE MORE MONEY, TEND TO BE WHITE BECAUSE OF THE SOCIETY HAVE MORE MONEY, TEND TO BE WHITE BECAUSE OF THE SOCIETY TODAY AND RESOURCES AND WHO WHITE BECAUSE OF THE SOCIETY TODAY AND RESOURCES AND WHO DOESN'T.

TODAY AND RESOURCES AND WHO DOESN'T.

ONE THING THAT IS INTERESTING MY DOESN'T.

ONE THING THAT IS INTERESTING MY COLLEAGUE, EMILY CROCKETT AT RH ONE THING THAT IS INTERESTING MY COLLEAGUE, EMILY CROCKETT AT RH REALITY TECH IS COVERING A BILL COLLEAGUE, EMILY CROCKETT AT RH REALITY TECH IS COVERING A BILL IN DELAWARE THAT WOULD MAKE REALITY TECH IS COVERING A BILL IN DELAWARE THAT WOULD MAKE MIDWIFERY IN THE HOME LEGAL.

IN DELAWARE THAT WOULD MAKE MIDWIFERY IN THE HOME LEGAL.

STRANGELY ENOUGH OVER 20 STATES MIDWIFERY IN THE HOME LEGAL.

STRANGELY ENOUGH OVER 20 STATES IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE RULES THAT STRANGELY ENOUGH OVER 20 STATES IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE RULES THAT EFFECTIVELY MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE RULES THAT EFFECTIVELY MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR ATTENDANT TO BE PRESENT AT THE EFFECTIVELY MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR ATTENDANT TO BE PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE HOME BIRTH.

ATTENDANT TO BE PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE HOME BIRTH.

>> GET BACK TO SOMETHING YOU TIME OF THE HOME BIRTH.

>> GET BACK TO SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED.

>> GET BACK TO SOMETHING YOU MENTIONED.

WHOLENING ABOUT WEALTH.

MENTIONED.

WHOLENING ABOUT WEALTH.

A LARGE PART OF HOME BIRTHING IS WHOLENING ABOUT WEALTH.

A LARGE PART OF HOME BIRTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER, IT'S A LARGE PART OF HOME BIRTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER, IT'S $3,000 VERSUS $10,000.

SUPPOSED TO BE CHEAPER, IT'S $3,000 VERSUS $10,000.

FOR A HOSPITAL DELIVERY, WHY ARE $3,000 VERSUS $10,000.

FOR A HOSPITAL DELIVERY, WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT WOMEN WHO ARE FOR A HOSPITAL DELIVERY, WHY ARE YOU SAYING THAT WOMEN WHO ARE RICHER WHO ARE TURNING TO HOME YOU SAYING THAT WOMEN WHO ARE RICHER WHO ARE TURNING TO HOME BIRTH?

RICHER WHO ARE TURNING TO HOME BIRTH?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

BIRTH?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE ISSUE IS THAT INSURANCE WILL >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE ISSUE IS THAT INSURANCE WILL COVER HOME BIRTH, IN FACT THAT'S THE ISSUE IS THAT INSURANCE WILL COVER HOME BIRTH, IN FACT THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE AND WHY IT'S COVER HOME BIRTH, IN FACT THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE AND WHY IT'S DIFFICULT FOR WOMEN TO BE A HUGE ISSUE AND WHY IT'S DIFFICULT FOR WOMEN TO BE REGULATED -- TO HAVE REGULATED DIFFICULT FOR WOMEN TO BE REGULATED -- TO HAVE REGULATED LEGAL HOME BIRTH WITH ATTENDANTS REGULATED -- TO HAVE REGULATED LEGAL HOME BIRTH WITH ATTENDANTS THERE BECAUSE THE INSURANCE LEGAL HOME BIRTH WITH ATTENDANTS THERE BECAUSE THE INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T WANT THE THERE BECAUSE THE INSURANCE COMPANY DOESN'T WANT THE LIABILITY.

COMPANY DOESN'T WANT THE LIABILITY.

CERTAINLY FOR POOR WOMEN, MANY LIABILITY.

CERTAINLY FOR POOR WOMEN, MANY OF WHOM ARE MEDICAID RECIPIENTS, CERTAINLY FOR POOR WOMEN, MANY OF WHOM ARE MEDICAID RECIPIENTS, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD.

OF WHOM ARE MEDICAID RECIPIENTS, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD.

BUT I THINK IT DOES RAISE VERY I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD.

BUT I THINK IT DOES RAISE VERY SERIOUS QUESTION.

BUT I THINK IT DOES RAISE VERY SERIOUS QUESTION.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS SERIOUS QUESTION.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE ATTENDANT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE ATTENDANT, PARTICULARLY NOW, BIRTHING -- THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE ATTENDANT, PARTICULARLY NOW, BIRTHING -- ONE OF THE REASONS WOMEN DON'T PARTICULARLY NOW, BIRTHING -- ONE OF THE REASONS WOMEN DON'T DIE YOUNG NOW IS THAT IT IS MUCH ONE OF THE REASONS WOMEN DON'T DIE YOUNG NOW IS THAT IT IS MUCH SAFER TO HAVE A CHILD TODAY AND DIE YOUNG NOW IS THAT IT IS MUCH SAFER TO HAVE A CHILD TODAY AND IT'S MUCH SAFER BECAUSE OF SAFER TO HAVE A CHILD TODAY AND IT'S MUCH SAFER BECAUSE OF MEDICAL INTERVENGE, BECAUSE OF IT'S MUCH SAFER BECAUSE OF MEDICAL INTERVENGE, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE ASPECTS AND CHILDREN MEDICAL INTERVENGE, BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE ASPECTS AND CHILDREN THEMSELVES.

ALL OF THE ASPECTS AND CHILDREN THEMSELVES.

MY FIRST CHILD WAS A BREACH THEMSELVES.

MY FIRST CHILD WAS A BREACH DELIVERY.

MY FIRST CHILD WAS A BREACH DELIVERY.

HE WAS VERY BE VERY LATED, CORD DELIVERY.

HE WAS VERY BE VERY LATED, CORD WAS WRAPPED AROUND HIS NECK HE WAS VERY BE VERY LATED, CORD WAS WRAPPED AROUND HIS NECK THREE TIMES, IF I TRIED TO DO WAS WRAPPED AROUND HIS NECK THREE TIMES, IF I TRIED TO DO THAT AT HOME I WOULD NOT BE THE THREE TIMES, IF I TRIED TO DO THAT AT HOME I WOULD NOT BE THE GRANDMOTHER OF FIVE WONDERFUL THAT AT HOME I WOULD NOT BE THE GRANDMOTHER OF FIVE WONDERFUL GRANDKIDS FROM THAT SON.

GRANDMOTHER OF FIVE WONDERFUL GRANDKIDS FROM THAT SON.

I JUST THINK THAT WOMEN HAVE TO GRANDKIDS FROM THAT SON.

I JUST THINK THAT WOMEN HAVE TO REALLY THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT I JUST THINK THAT WOMEN HAVE TO REALLY THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT THESE DECISIONS.

REALLY THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT THESE DECISIONS.

I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE.

THESE DECISIONS.

I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE.

>> I CERTAINLY DON'T -- YOU CAN I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE.

>> I CERTAINLY DON'T -- YOU CAN SPEAK WITH YOUR OWN -- >> I CERTAINLY DON'T -- YOU CAN SPEAK WITH YOUR OWN -- >> C-SECTIONS.

SPEAK WITH YOUR OWN -- >> C-SECTIONS.

YOU BRING IN THE LOTTERY, THE >> C-SECTIONS.

YOU BRING IN THE LOTTERY, THE C-SECTIONS ARE NOW SO PREVALENT YOU BRING IN THE LOTTERY, THE C-SECTIONS ARE NOW SO PREVALENT ONE REASON WOMEN ARE GIVING C-SECTIONS ARE NOW SO PREVALENT ONE REASON WOMEN ARE GIVING BIRTH AT HOME THEY'RE IN THE GET ONE REASON WOMEN ARE GIVING BIRTH AT HOME THEY'RE IN THE GET CAN TO A SITUATION WHERE THAT IS BIRTH AT HOME THEY'RE IN THE GET CAN TO A SITUATION WHERE THAT IS -- CAN TO A SITUATION WHERE THAT IS -- >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT.

-- >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT.

IF YOU WORRIED ABOUT >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT.

IF YOU WORRIED ABOUT OVERMEDICALIZATION SPEAK TO YOUR IF YOU WORRIED ABOUT OVERMEDICALIZATION SPEAK TO YOUR OBSTETRICIAN.

OVERMEDICALIZATION SPEAK TO YOUR OBSTETRICIAN.

STICK WITH YOUR OWN DOCTOR.

OBSTETRICIAN.

STICK WITH YOUR OWN DOCTOR.

YOU CAN EASILY FIND A DOCTOR WHO STICK WITH YOUR OWN DOCTOR.

YOU CAN EASILY FIND A DOCTOR WHO WILL DO IT THE WAY YOU WANT TO YOU CAN EASILY FIND A DOCTOR WHO WILL DO IT THE WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT WITHOUT GOING OUT IN THE WILL DO IT THE WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT WITHOUT GOING OUT IN THE FOREST TO HAVE YOUR BABY.

DO IT WITHOUT GOING OUT IN THE FOREST TO HAVE YOUR BABY.

I SAY WITHOUT DOING IT AT HOME, FOREST TO HAVE YOUR BABY.

I SAY WITHOUT DOING IT AT HOME, I THINK THE REASON THAT WOMEN I SAY WITHOUT DOING IT AT HOME, I THINK THE REASON THAT WOMEN WHO ARE -- WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT I THINK THE REASON THAT WOMEN WHO ARE -- WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE WOMEN IN THE EARLY PART OF WHO ARE -- WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE WOMEN IN THE EARLY PART OF 19th CENTURY WHO DIED, YOU'RE THOSE WOMEN IN THE EARLY PART OF 19th CENTURY WHO DIED, YOU'RE TALKING FIRST OF ALL, TALKING TO 19th CENTURY WHO DIED, YOU'RE TALKING FIRST OF ALL, TALKING TO THIS PORTION OF WOMEN, THERE TALKING FIRST OF ALL, TALKING TO THIS PORTION OF WOMEN, THERE WERE MORE -- BECAUSE THEY DIED THIS PORTION OF WOMEN, THERE WERE MORE -- BECAUSE THEY DIED FROM CHILD BIRTH DIDN'T MAKE IT WERE MORE -- BECAUSE THEY DIED FROM CHILD BIRTH DIDN'T MAKE IT TO OLD AGE.

FROM CHILD BIRTH DIDN'T MAKE IT TO OLD AGE.

THEN YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE TO OLD AGE.

THEN YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE REMEMBER THEIR GRANDMOTHER AND THEN YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE REMEMBER THEIR GRANDMOTHER AND SAID AND GREAT GRANDMOTHER SAID REMEMBER THEIR GRANDMOTHER AND SAID AND GREAT GRANDMOTHER SAID WHO WELCOMED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAID AND GREAT GRANDMOTHER SAID WHO WELCOMED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAFE CHILD BIRTH WHO WELCOMED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAFE CHILD BIRTH ESPECIALLY SINCE PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE A SAFE CHILD BIRTH ESPECIALLY SINCE PEOPLE OF COLOR TEND TO LOSE THEIR -- ESPECIALLY SINCE PEOPLE OF COLOR TEND TO LOSE THEIR -- >> YOUR THOUGHTS.

TEND TO LOSE THEIR -- >> YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> SOME PEOPLE DO MAKE THE >> YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> SOME PEOPLE DO MAKE THE DECISION TO HAVE HOME BIRTHS AND >> SOME PEOPLE DO MAKE THE DECISION TO HAVE HOME BIRTHS AND TO GO TO BIRTHING CENTERS, IT IS DECISION TO HAVE HOME BIRTHS AND TO GO TO BIRTHING CENTERS, IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A HEALTH CARE TO GO TO BIRTHING CENTERS, IT IS GOOD TO HAVE A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM HE'LL LOUSE FOR OPTIONS, GOOD TO HAVE A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM HE'LL LOUSE FOR OPTIONS, I DON'T THINK SHOW LEEK THIS SYSTEM HE'LL LOUSE FOR OPTIONS, I DON'T THINK SHOW LEEK THIS SHOULD BE PROMOTING IT WITHOUT I DON'T THINK SHOW LEEK THIS SHOULD BE PROMOTING IT WITHOUT LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THERE IS SHOULD BE PROMOTING IT WITHOUT LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THERE IS MEDICAL ATTENTION THERE.

LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THERE IS MEDICAL ATTENTION THERE.

AGAIN, DON'T CLAIM TO WATCH IT.

MEDICAL ATTENTION THERE.

AGAIN, DON'T CLAIM TO WATCH IT.

WE DO WANT WOMEN TO HAVE CHOICES AGAIN, DON'T CLAIM TO WATCH IT.

WE DO WANT WOMEN TO HAVE CHOICES WHEN IT COMES TO CHILD BIRTH.

WE DO WANT WOMEN TO HAVE CHOICES WHEN IT COMES TO CHILD BIRTH.

>> SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

WHEN IT COMES TO CHILD BIRTH.

>> SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

FIRST OF ALL WHAT ABOUT THE >> SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

FIRST OF ALL WHAT ABOUT THE FACT, SHOULDN'T HOSPITALS JUST FIRST OF ALL WHAT ABOUT THE FACT, SHOULDN'T HOSPITALS JUST BE PUTTING BIRTH IN LESS HEAD FACT, SHOULDN'T HOSPITALS JUST BE PUTTING BIRTH IN LESS HEAD CAP TYPES -- WHAT IF THEY JUST BE PUTTING BIRTH IN LESS HEAD CAP TYPES -- WHAT IF THEY JUST HAD ROOMS WITH LIVING ROOMS AND CAP TYPES -- WHAT IF THEY JUST HAD ROOMS WITH LIVING ROOMS AND BEDROOMS.

HAD ROOMS WITH LIVING ROOMS AND BEDROOMS.

>> THEY DO.

BEDROOMS.

>> THEY DO.

>> ALL OVER THE PLACE?

>> THEY DO.

>> ALL OVER THE PLACE?

>> THAT IS AN INCREASING TREND >> ALL OVER THE PLACE?

>> THAT IS AN INCREASING TREND WHEN YOU GO IN NOW TO VISIT >> THAT IS AN INCREASING TREND WHEN YOU GO IN NOW TO VISIT PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING BABIES, WHEN YOU GO IN NOW TO VISIT PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING BABIES, THEY ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING BABIES, THEY ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE IN HOME LIFE ENVIRONMENT.

THEY ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE IN HOME LIFE ENVIRONMENT.

IN FACT HOSPITALS IN GENERAL IN HOME LIFE ENVIRONMENT.

IN FACT HOSPITALS IN GENERAL EXCEPT FOR IF YOU'RE IN THERE IN FACT HOSPITALS IN GENERAL EXCEPT FOR IF YOU'RE IN THERE SUFFERING FROM CANCER OR EXCEPT FOR IF YOU'RE IN THERE SUFFERING FROM CANCER OR INTENSIVE COMPARE THEY'RE TRYING SUFFERING FROM CANCER OR INTENSIVE COMPARE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE HOSPITAL ENVIRONMENT INTENSIVE COMPARE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE HOSPITAL ENVIRONMENT MORE WELCOMING BECAUSE IT DOES TO MAKE THE HOSPITAL ENVIRONMENT MORE WELCOMING BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT THE WAY YOU RECOVER.

MORE WELCOMING BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT THE WAY YOU RECOVER.

>> BECAUSE MARKET SYSTEM, YOU AFFECT THE WAY YOU RECOVER.

>> BECAUSE MARKET SYSTEM, YOU SEE THE TRENDS THEY WANT TO KEEP >> BECAUSE MARKET SYSTEM, YOU SEE THE TRENDS THEY WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE COMING TO THEIR EXPENSIVE SEE THE TRENDS THEY WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE COMING TO THEIR EXPENSIVE HOSPITALS.

PEOPLE COMING TO THEIR EXPENSIVE HOSPITALS.

>> YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY I THINK HOSPITALS.

>> YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY I THINK THAT WOMEN SHOULD HAVE WHATEVER >> YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY I THINK THAT WOMEN SHOULD HAVE WHATEVER OPTION THEY WANT, EVEN IF THEY THAT WOMEN SHOULD HAVE WHATEVER OPTION THEY WANT, EVEN IF THEY WANT TO TAKE A MORE DANGEROUS OPTION THEY WANT, EVEN IF THEY WANT TO TAKE A MORE DANGEROUS OPTION THAT'S UP TO THEM.

WANT TO TAKE A MORE DANGEROUS OPTION THAT'S UP TO THEM.

BUT WHERE I STOP SHORT ON THIS OPTION THAT'S UP TO THEM.

BUT WHERE I STOP SHORT ON THIS IS HAVING OTHER CHILDREN AT THE BUT WHERE I STOP SHORT ON THIS IS HAVING OTHER CHILDREN AT THE BIRTH.

IS HAVING OTHER CHILDREN AT THE BIRTH.

HOW DOES EVERYBODY FELLEAE BOUT BIRTH.

HOW DOES EVERYBODY FELLEAE BOUT THAT?

HOW DOES EVERYBODY FELLEAE BOUT THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT.

CERTAINLY IN -- SPENDS ON THE THAT.

CERTAINLY IN -- SPENDS ON THE AGE OF THE CHILD.

CERTAINLY IN -- SPENDS ON THE AGE OF THE CHILD.

HAVING HAD THREE KIDS, MY AGE OF THE CHILD.

HAVING HAD THREE KIDS, MY HUSBAND WAS THERE FOR ALL OF HAVING HAD THREE KIDS, MY HUSBAND WAS THERE FOR ALL OF THEM INCLUDING THE FIRST WHICH HUSBAND WAS THERE FOR ALL OF THEM INCLUDING THE FIRST WHICH WAS VERY UNUSUAL AT THE TIME.

THEM INCLUDING THE FIRST WHICH WAS VERY UNUSUAL AT THE TIME.

BUT WHEN MY SON GET IN TO WAS VERY UNUSUAL AT THE TIME.

BUT WHEN MY SON GET IN TO DIFFICULTY THEY KICKED MY BUT WHEN MY SON GET IN TO DIFFICULTY THEY KICKED MY HUSBAND OUT OF THE ROOM.

DIFFICULTY THEY KICKED MY HUSBAND OUT OF THE ROOM.

AGAIN IF YOU HAVE TO USE SOME HUSBAND OUT OF THE ROOM.

AGAIN IF YOU HAVE TO USE SOME COMMON SENSE HERE.

AGAIN IF YOU HAVE TO USE SOME COMMON SENSE HERE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO ALSO COMMON SENSE HERE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO ALSO TRAUMATIZE, IT'S A BLOODY YOU DON'T WANT TO ALSO TRAUMATIZE, IT'S A BLOODY EXPERIENCE IT'S A LOT OF PAIN TRAUMATIZE, IT'S A BLOODY EXPERIENCE IT'S A LOT OF PAIN INVOLVED AND YOU ARE NOT EXPERIENCE IT'S A LOT OF PAIN INVOLVED AND YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO TRAUMATIZE.

INVOLVED AND YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO TRAUMATIZE.

>> THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

NECESSARILY WANT TO TRAUMATIZE.

>> THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

BY THE TIME WE SEE THE BABY WE >> THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

BY THE TIME WE SEE THE BABY WE SEE THE BEAUTIFUL PART OF CHILD BY THE TIME WE SEE THE BABY WE SEE THE BEAUTIFUL PART OF CHILD BIRTH BUT CHILD BIRTH IS NOT SEE THE BEAUTIFUL PART OF CHILD BIRTH BUT CHILD BIRTH IS NOT BEAUTIFUL WHEN IT'S HAPPENING, BIRTH BUT CHILD BIRTH IS NOT BEAUTIFUL WHEN IT'S HAPPENING, WOMEN SCREAM AND HOLLER AND BEAUTIFUL WHEN IT'S HAPPENING, WOMEN SCREAM AND HOLLER AND BLOOD, I'M NOT SURE I WANT MY WOMEN SCREAM AND HOLLER AND BLOOD, I'M NOT SURE I WANT MY CHILDREN EXPOSED TO IT.

BLOOD, I'M NOT SURE I WANT MY CHILDREN EXPOSED TO IT.

>> IT COMES DOWN TO THE CHILDREN EXPOSED TO IT.

>> IT COMES DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF THE WOMAN >> IT COMES DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF THE WOMAN WHO IS GIVING BIRTH AND HER INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF THE WOMAN WHO IS GIVING BIRTH AND HER FAMILY AND WHAT IS BEST FOR WHO IS GIVING BIRTH AND HER FAMILY AND WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM.

FAMILY AND WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM.

FLEXIBILITY IS REALLY THE NAME THEM.

FLEXIBILITY IS REALLY THE NAME OF THE GAME.

FLEXIBILITY IS REALLY THE NAME OF THE GAME.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO OF THE GAME.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

YOU CAN GO IN WITH YOUR BEST HAPPEN.

YOU CAN GO IN WITH YOUR BEST PLANS.

YOU CAN GO IN WITH YOUR BEST PLANS.

I ACTUALLY APPROACHING MY PLANS.

I ACTUALLY APPROACHING MY DAUGHTER'S ONE YEAR OLD BIRTHDAY I ACTUALLY APPROACHING MY DAUGHTER'S ONE YEAR OLD BIRTHDAY THIS WEEKEND, I WENT IN THINKING DAUGHTER'S ONE YEAR OLD BIRTHDAY THIS WEEKEND, I WENT IN THINKING I'D PREFER NOT TO HAVE PAIN THIS WEEKEND, I WENT IN THINKING I'D PREFER NOT TO HAVE PAIN MEDICATION.

I'D PREFER NOT TO HAVE PAIN MEDICATION.

MY GOODNESS, THE EPIDURAL IS ONE MEDICATION.

MY GOODNESS, THE EPIDURAL IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT EVER MY GOODNESS, THE EPIDURAL IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME IN MY ENTIRE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

HAPPENED TO ME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

NOT THE BIRTHING IN GENERAL.

LIFE.

NOT THE BIRTHING IN GENERAL.

I WOUND UP EVERYTHING AN NOT THE BIRTHING IN GENERAL.

I WOUND UP EVERYTHING AN EMERGENCY C-SECTION.

I WOUND UP EVERYTHING AN EMERGENCY C-SECTION.

SOMETIMES THEY EACH GET A BAD EMERGENCY C-SECTION.

SOMETIMES THEY EACH GET A BAD NAME AS WELL, SOMEHOW NOT -- IS SOMETIMES THEY EACH GET A BAD NAME AS WELL, SOMEHOW NOT -- IS UNNATURAL OR NOT REAL BIRTHING NAME AS WELL, SOMEHOW NOT -- IS UNNATURAL OR NOT REAL BIRTHING EXPERIENCE.

UNNATURAL OR NOT REAL BIRTHING EXPERIENCE.

VERY MUCH IS ONE.

EXPERIENCE.

VERY MUCH IS ONE.

SOMETIMES IT IS MEDICALLY VERY MUCH IS ONE.

SOMETIMES IT IS MEDICALLY NECESSARY AND VERY IMPORTANT, IT SOMETIMES IT IS MEDICALLY NECESSARY AND VERY IMPORTANT, IT WAS IN MY CASE I'M THRILLED TO NECESSARY AND VERY IMPORTANT, IT WAS IN MY CASE I'M THRILLED TO HAVE A HAPPY, HEALTHY DAUGHTER WAS IN MY CASE I'M THRILLED TO HAVE A HAPPY, HEALTHY DAUGHTER TODAY.

HAVE A HAPPY, HEALTHY DAUGHTER TODAY.

IF I WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILD, TODAY.

IF I WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILD, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT IF AN MERGE IF I WERE TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILD, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT IF AN MERGE SEEN C-SECTION BECAME NECESSARY, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT IF AN MERGE SEEN C-SECTION BECAME NECESSARY, WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE KID THERE SEEN C-SECTION BECAME NECESSARY, WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE KID THERE FOR THAT?

WHY WOULD YOU HAVE THE KID THERE FOR THAT?

>> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

FOR THAT?

>> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER >> LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER @BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY FROM BIRTH TO KIDS @BONNIEERBE OR @TOTHECONTRARY FROM BIRTH TO KIDS "RAISE KIDS, NOT PETS" - THAT'S FROM BIRTH TO KIDS "RAISE KIDS, NOT PETS" - THAT'S THE MESSAGE POPE FRANCIS "RAISE KIDS, NOT PETS" - THAT'S THE MESSAGE POPE FRANCIS DELIVERED TO MARRIED COUPLES THE MESSAGE POPE FRANCIS DELIVERED TO MARRIED COUPLES THIS WEEK.

DELIVERED TO MARRIED COUPLES THIS WEEK.

THE POPE WARNED THAT HAVING A THIS WEEK.

THE POPE WARNED THAT HAVING A DOG OR A CAT INSTEAD OF A CHILD THE POPE WARNED THAT HAVING A DOG OR A CAT INSTEAD OF A CHILD MIGHT SEEM MORE COMFORTABLE, BUT DOG OR A CAT INSTEAD OF A CHILD MIGHT SEEM MORE COMFORTABLE, BUT COUPLES WITHOUT KIDS LATER MIGHT SEEM MORE COMFORTABLE, BUT COUPLES WITHOUT KIDS LATER REGRET "THE BITTERNESS OF COUPLES WITHOUT KIDS LATER REGRET "THE BITTERNESS OF LONELINESS" IN OLD AGE.

REGRET "THE BITTERNESS OF LONELINESS" IN OLD AGE.

THE BIRTH RATE IN ITALY, THE LONELINESS" IN OLD AGE.

THE BIRTH RATE IN ITALY, THE UNITED STATES, AND OTHER THE BIRTH RATE IN ITALY, THE UNITED STATES, AND OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IS SHARPLY UNITED STATES, AND OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IS SHARPLY DECLINING, ALTHOUGH IN THE U.S., DEVELOPED COUNTRIES IS SHARPLY DECLINING, ALTHOUGH IN THE U.S., AT LEAST, THE POPULATION IS DECLINING, ALTHOUGH IN THE U.S., AT LEAST, THE POPULATION IS CLIMBING RAPIDLY MAINLY DUE TO AT LEAST, THE POPULATION IS CLIMBING RAPIDLY MAINLY DUE TO IMMIGRATION.

CLIMBING RAPIDLY MAINLY DUE TO IMMIGRATION.

WHILE SOME FOLLOWERS PRAISED IMMIGRATION.

WHILE SOME FOLLOWERS PRAISED FRANCIS' MESSAGE, GROUPS WHILE SOME FOLLOWERS PRAISED FRANCIS' MESSAGE, GROUPS CONCERNED WITH HUMAN FRANCIS' MESSAGE, GROUPS CONCERNED WITH HUMAN POPULATION'S IMPACT ON THE CONCERNED WITH HUMAN POPULATION'S IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WERE POPULATION'S IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WERE CRITICAL.

NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WERE CRITICAL.

SO, WHY THIS MESSAGEY NOW, CRITICAL.

SO, WHY THIS MESSAGEY NOW, LINDA?

SO, WHY THIS MESSAGEY NOW, LINDA?

>> THIS IS THE CATHOLIC VIEW OF LINDA?

>> THIS IS THE CATHOLIC VIEW OF MARRIAGE.

>> THIS IS THE CATHOLIC VIEW OF MARRIAGE.

THE CATHOLIC VIEW OF THE PROCEED MARRIAGE.

THE CATHOLIC VIEW OF THE PROCEED CREATIVE ACT OF SEX IS THAT IT THE CATHOLIC VIEW OF THE PROCEED CREATIVE ACT OF SEX IS THAT IT IS ALWAYS MUST BE OPEN TOO CREATIVE ACT OF SEX IS THAT IT IS ALWAYS MUST BE OPEN TOO PROCREATION, TO THE CREATION OF IS ALWAYS MUST BE OPEN TOO PROCREATION, TO THE CREATION OF A CHILD.

PROCREATION, TO THE CREATION OF A CHILD.

>> DON'T YOU FIND IT A LITTLE A CHILD.

>> DON'T YOU FIND IT A LITTLE BIT ODD COMING FROM -- EVERYBODY >> DON'T YOU FIND IT A LITTLE BIT ODD COMING FROM -- EVERYBODY ADORES POPE FRANCIS, I BIT ODD COMING FROM -- EVERYBODY ADORES POPE FRANCIS, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT COMING FROM ADORES POPE FRANCIS, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT COMING FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT MARRIED AND UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT COMING FROM SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT MARRIED AND CERTAINLY NEVER GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT MARRIED AND CERTAINLY NEVER GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN TELL EVERYBODY ELSE TO CERTAINLY NEVER GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN TELL EVERYBODY ELSE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO IT?

CHILDREN TELL EVERYBODY ELSE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO IT?

>> NOT AT ALL.

GO OUT THERE AND DO IT?

>> NOT AT ALL.

THAT IS THE POSITION OF THE >> NOT AT ALL.

THAT IS THE POSITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, ALWAYS BEEN THE THAT IS THE POSITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, ALWAYS BEEN THE POSITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, CATHOLIC CHURCH, ALWAYS BEEN THE POSITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, FRANKLY WE ARE IN A BIRTH POSITION OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, FRANKLY WE ARE IN A BIRTH DALLAS-FORT WORTH CERTAINLY IN FRANKLY WE ARE IN A BIRTH DALLAS-FORT WORTH CERTAINLY IN ALL WESTERN COUNTRIES.

DALLAS-FORT WORTH CERTAINLY IN ALL WESTERN COUNTRIES.

THE POPULATION, IS NOT, ALL WESTERN COUNTRIES.

THE POPULATION, IS NOT, IMMIGRATION DOES CONTRIBUTE TO THE POPULATION, IS NOT, IMMIGRATION DOES CONTRIBUTE TO OUR GROWTH BUT THERE IS NEGATIVE IMMIGRATION DOES CONTRIBUTE TO OUR GROWTH BUT THERE IS NEGATIVE IMMIGRATION GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

OUR GROWTH BUT THERE IS NEGATIVE IMMIGRATION GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

AND THE REASON IT CONTRIBUTES IS IMMIGRATION GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

AND THE REASON IT CONTRIBUTES IS IMMIGRANTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO AND THE REASON IT CONTRIBUTES IS IMMIGRANTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE MORE CHILDREN THAN AMERICAN IMMIGRANTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE MORE CHILDREN THAN AMERICAN BORN.

HAVE MORE CHILDREN THAN AMERICAN BORN.

BUT ALL WESTERN SOCIETIES ARE BORN.

BUT ALL WESTERN SOCIETIES ARE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE BUT ALL WESTERN SOCIETIES ARE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE POPULATIONS ARE SHRINKING.

SUFFERING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE POPULATIONS ARE SHRINKING.

LOOKING AROUND THE TABLE AT POPULATIONS ARE SHRINKING.

LOOKING AROUND THE TABLE AT LEAST SOME OF US -- LOOKING AROUND THE TABLE AT LEAST SOME OF US -- >> WE NEED MORE PEOPLE IF WE'RE LEAST SOME OF US -- >> WE NEED MORE PEOPLE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DECENT LIVES IN >> WE NEED MORE PEOPLE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DECENT LIVES IN THE FUTURE, SOCIAL SERVICES.

GOING TO HAVE DECENT LIVES IN THE FUTURE, SOCIAL SERVICES.

>> I HEAR ALL THESE THE FUTURE, SOCIAL SERVICES.

>> I HEAR ALL THESE CONSERVATIVES SAYING, NOT GOING >> I HEAR ALL THESE CONSERVATIVES SAYING, NOT GOING TO BE ANYBODY TO TAKE CARE OF CONSERVATIVES SAYING, NOT GOING TO BE ANYBODY TO TAKE CARE OF THE OLD PEOPLE.

TO BE ANYBODY TO TAKE CARE OF THE OLD PEOPLE.

I HEAR THE COMPLAINT, I NEVER THE OLD PEOPLE.

I HEAR THE COMPLAINT, I NEVER SEE THE ACTUALITY OF THAT.

I HEAR THE COMPLAINT, I NEVER SEE THE ACTUALITY OF THAT.

>> YOU WANT TO SEE IT.

SEE THE ACTUALITY OF THAT.

>> YOU WANT TO SEE IT.

LOOK AT JAPAN.

>> YOU WANT TO SEE IT.

LOOK AT JAPAN.

>> OLD PEOPLE OUT HA IN THE LOOK AT JAPAN.

>> OLD PEOPLE OUT HA IN THE STREET BECAUSE -- >> OLD PEOPLE OUT HA IN THE STREET BECAUSE -- >> THEY'VE NOT EVER BEEN ABLE TO STREET BECAUSE -- >> THEY'VE NOT EVER BEEN ABLE TO COME OUT BECAUSE -- >> THEY'VE NOT EVER BEEN ABLE TO COME OUT BECAUSE -- >> CRISIS WITH A BOOMING COME OUT BECAUSE -- >> CRISIS WITH A BOOMING ECONOMY?

>> CRISIS WITH A BOOMING ECONOMY?

>> IT IS NOT A BOOMING ECONOMY.

ECONOMY?

>> IT IS NOT A BOOMING ECONOMY.

JAPAN IS JUST BARELY NOW COMING >> IT IS NOT A BOOMING ECONOMY.

JAPAN IS JUST BARELY NOW COMING OUT OF THE DEPRESSION IT'S BEEN JAPAN IS JUST BARELY NOW COMING OUT OF THE DEPRESSION IT'S BEEN IN FOR TWO DECADES.

OUT OF THE DEPRESSION IT'S BEEN IN FOR TWO DECADES.

THE FACT THAT THEIR POPULATION IN FOR TWO DECADES.

THE FACT THAT THEIR POPULATION HAS BEEN SHRINKING IS DRAMATIC THE FACT THAT THEIR POPULATION HAS BEEN SHRINKING IS DRAMATIC FACTOR.LATION, PEOPLE ARE GOOD.

HAS BEEN SHRINKING IS DRAMATIC FACTOR.LATION, PEOPLE ARE GOOD.

PEOPLE ARE GOOD FOR THE PLANET.

FACTOR.LATION, PEOPLE ARE GOOD.

PEOPLE ARE GOOD FOR THE PLANET.

I AM VERY MUCH ON THE OTHER SIDE PEOPLE ARE GOOD FOR THE PLANET.

I AM VERY MUCH ON THE OTHER SIDE AS YOU KNOW, BONNIE ON THIS I AM VERY MUCH ON THE OTHER SIDE AS YOU KNOW, BONNIE ON THIS POPULATION ISSUE, THAT IS WHERE AS YOU KNOW, BONNIE ON THIS POPULATION ISSUE, THAT IS WHERE WE GET OUR INNOVATION, THAT'S POPULATION ISSUE, THAT IS WHERE WE GET OUR INNOVATION, THAT'S WHERE WE GETTER THINKERS.

WE GET OUR INNOVATION, THAT'S WHERE WE GETTER THINKERS.

>> OUR CLIMATE CHANGE.

WHERE WE GETTER THINKERS.

>> OUR CLIMATE CHANGE.

>> I COME FROM CATHOLIC POINT OF >> OUR CLIMATE CHANGE.

>> I COME FROM CATHOLIC POINT OF VIEW BUT I CAN SEE WHAT THE POPE >> I COME FROM CATHOLIC POINT OF VIEW BUT I CAN SEE WHAT THE POPE IS SAYING, WHEN I STEP BACK FROM VIEW BUT I CAN SEE WHAT THE POPE IS SAYING, WHEN I STEP BACK FROM IT, THE PER PENSTER OF -- IS SAYING, WHEN I STEP BACK FROM IT, THE PER PENSTER OF -- PROPENSITY OF HAVING AND LOVING IT, THE PER PENSTER OF -- PROPENSITY OF HAVING AND LOVING THEIR PETS IS AT A FAR PROPENSITY OF HAVING AND LOVING THEIR PETS IS AT A FAR GREATER -- FAR GREATER NUMBER THEIR PETS IS AT A FAR GREATER -- FAR GREATER NUMBER THAN I'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE AND GREATER -- FAR GREATER NUMBER THAN I'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE AND NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT FOR THAN I'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE AND NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT FOR A GOOD MAN 'EVER THEM, THEY ARE NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT FOR A GOOD MAN 'EVER THEM, THEY ARE TAKING THE PLACE OF KIDS.

A GOOD MAN 'EVER THEM, THEY ARE TAKING THE PLACE OF KIDS.

NOW, THAT SAID, THAT IS THEIR TAKING THE PLACE OF KIDS.

NOW, THAT SAID, THAT IS THEIR CHOICE.

NOW, THAT SAID, THAT IS THEIR CHOICE.

WHO WOULD SAY THEY SHOULD MAKE CHOICE.

WHO WOULD SAY THEY SHOULD MAKE THAT CHOICE.

WHO WOULD SAY THEY SHOULD MAKE THAT CHOICE.

I CERTAINLY DON'T AGREE WE WANT THAT CHOICE.

I CERTAINLY DON'T AGREE WE WANT A WORLD FULL OF OLD PEOPLE.

I CERTAINLY DON'T AGREE WE WANT A WORLD FULL OF OLD PEOPLE.

I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE, EVEN AS A WORLD FULL OF OLD PEOPLE.

I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE, EVEN AS WE ENCOURAGE LONGER LIFE, I DO I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE, EVEN AS WE ENCOURAGE LONGER LIFE, I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE THOSE PEOPLE WE ENCOURAGE LONGER LIFE, I DO WANT TO ENCOURAGE THOSE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO HAVE CHILDREN TO WANT TO ENCOURAGE THOSE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO HAVE CHILDREN TO HAVE THEM AND TO PUT NO NEGATIVE WHO WISH TO HAVE CHILDREN TO HAVE THEM AND TO PUT NO NEGATIVE NOTION OUT THERE ABOUT HAVING HAVE THEM AND TO PUT NO NEGATIVE NOTION OUT THERE ABOUT HAVING CHILDREN.

NOTION OUT THERE ABOUT HAVING CHILDREN.

THE REASON I DON'T WANT TO DO CHILDREN.

THE REASON I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT NOW TURNS OUT THAT EVERY THE REASON I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT NOW TURNS OUT THAT EVERY SOCIETY AS IT BECOMES MORE THAT NOW TURNS OUT THAT EVERY SOCIETY AS IT BECOMES MORE ADVANCED STOPS HAVING CHILDREN.

SOCIETY AS IT BECOMES MORE ADVANCED STOPS HAVING CHILDREN.

I DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT ZERO ADVANCED STOPS HAVING CHILDREN.

I DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT ZERO POPULATION GROWTH.

I DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT ZERO POPULATION GROWTH.

PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT.

POPULATION GROWTH.

PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE TAKING CARE OF THAT.

WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE THINK IT'S WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE THINK IT'S ALREADY TO HAVE CHILDREN AND ONE WOULD MAKE PEOPLE THINK IT'S ALREADY TO HAVE CHILDREN AND ONE THING THAT WOULD MAKE THEM THINK ALREADY TO HAVE CHILDREN AND ONE THING THAT WOULD MAKE THEM THINK ABOUT IT, AFTER THEY BRING THING THAT WOULD MAKE THEM THINK ABOUT IT, AFTER THEY BRING CHILDREN IN THE WORLD WOMEN ARE ABOUT IT, AFTER THEY BRING CHILDREN IN THE WORLD WOMEN ARE TOLD TO GO OUT AND WORK THERE IS CHILDREN IN THE WORLD WOMEN ARE TOLD TO GO OUT AND WORK THERE IS SOME KIND OF EDUCATIONAL CHILD TOLD TO GO OUT AND WORK THERE IS SOME KIND OF EDUCATIONAL CHILD CARE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR SOME KIND OF EDUCATIONAL CHILD CARE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN.

CARE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN.

WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES WANT CHILDREN.

WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES WANT TO HAVE IT ALL.

WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES WANT TO HAVE IT ALL.

>> TO LINDA'S POINT ON WHERE TO HAVE IT ALL.

>> TO LINDA'S POINT ON WHERE SOCIAL SERVICES AND SYSTEMS ARE >> TO LINDA'S POINT ON WHERE SOCIAL SERVICES AND SYSTEMS ARE SET UP REALLY DOES RELY ON YOUNG SOCIAL SERVICES AND SYSTEMS ARE SET UP REALLY DOES RELY ON YOUNG PEOPLE AND ONE OF THE BEST SET UP REALLY DOES RELY ON YOUNG PEOPLE AND ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES IS OBAMACARE YOU HAVE PEOPLE AND ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES IS OBAMACARE YOU HAVE ONE TO THREE RATIO IN THERE EXAMPLES IS OBAMACARE YOU HAVE ONE TO THREE RATIO IN THERE SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T CHARGE ONE TO THREE RATIO IN THERE SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T CHARGE OLDER PEOPLE MORE THAN THREE SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T CHARGE OLDER PEOPLE MORE THAN THREE TIMES WHAT YOU'RE CHARGING OLDER PEOPLE MORE THAN THREE TIMES WHAT YOU'RE CHARGING YOUNGER PEOPLE.

TIMES WHAT YOU'RE CHARGING YOUNGER PEOPLE.

MEANS THAT WE'RE RAISING THE YOUNGER PEOPLE.

MEANS THAT WE'RE RAISING THE RATES, PREMIUMS FOR YOUNGER MEANS THAT WE'RE RAISING THE RATES, PREMIUMS FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT'S WHY YOU SAW NUMBER RATES, PREMIUMS FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT'S WHY YOU SAW NUMBER OF EFFORTS FROM THE PEOPLE THAT'S WHY YOU SAW NUMBER OF EFFORTS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO GET OF EFFORTS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO GET YOUNG PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, WHETHER ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO GET YOUNG PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, WHETHER IT WAS THE PRESIDENT AND FIRST YOUNG PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, WHETHER IT WAS THE PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY ON LATE NIGHT TV, SUPER IT WAS THE PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY ON LATE NIGHT TV, SUPER BOWL COMMERCIALS YOU GOT TO HAVE LADY ON LATE NIGHT TV, SUPER BOWL COMMERCIALS YOU GOT TO HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE THE WAY OUR SOCIAL BOWL COMMERCIALS YOU GOT TO HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE THE WAY OUR SOCIAL SERVICES IS SET UP TO BE YOUNG PEOPLE THE WAY OUR SOCIAL SERVICES IS SET UP TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

SERVICES IS SET UP TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

>> I LIKE TO GO BACK DIRECTLY TO SUCCESSFUL.

>> I LIKE TO GO BACK DIRECTLY TO THE HOPE'S COMMENT.

>> I LIKE TO GO BACK DIRECTLY TO THE HOPE'S COMMENT.

IF YOU THINK THE CAT IS MORE THE HOPE'S COMMENT.

IF YOU THINK THE CAT IS MORE COMFORTABLE THAN A CHILD, IF YOU THINK THE CAT IS MORE COMFORTABLE THAN A CHILD, CLEARLY HASN'T MET MY CAT NOR MY COMFORTABLE THAN A CHILD, CLEARLY HASN'T MET MY CAT NOR MY CHILD.

CLEARLY HASN'T MET MY CAT NOR MY CHILD.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T CHILD.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S SURPRISING THAT HE BUT I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S SURPRISING THAT HE SAID THIS RIGHT NOW.

THINK IT'S SURPRISING THAT HE SAID THIS RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK TO BUILD OFF SAID THIS RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK TO BUILD OFF SOMETHING THAT LINDA WAS SAYING AND I THINK TO BUILD OFF SOMETHING THAT LINDA WAS SAYING IT'S NOT JUST A FEW OF MARRIAGE SOMETHING THAT LINDA WAS SAYING IT'S NOT JUST A FEW OF MARRIAGE AND PROCREATION IT'S A VIEW EVER IT'S NOT JUST A FEW OF MARRIAGE AND PROCREATION IT'S A VIEW EVER WOMEN THAT HE'S PROMOTING HERE, AND PROCREATION IT'S A VIEW EVER WOMEN THAT HE'S PROMOTING HERE, IT'S FAIRLY CONSISTENT, HE WOMEN THAT HE'S PROMOTING HERE, IT'S FAIRLY CONSISTENT, HE SPEAKS SOFTLY BUT IS DOING IT'S FAIRLY CONSISTENT, HE SPEAKS SOFTLY BUT IS DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN TO REINFORCE SPEAKS SOFTLY BUT IS DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN TO REINFORCE TRADITIONAL GENDER ROLES.

EVERYTHING HE CAN TO REINFORCE TRADITIONAL GENDER ROLES.

I THINK THAT TO HAVE MORE TRADITIONAL GENDER ROLES.

I THINK THAT TO HAVE MORE CHILDREN IS AGAIN ABOUT TRYING I THINK THAT TO HAVE MORE CHILDREN IS AGAIN ABOUT TRYING TO GO BACK TO A MORE CHILDREN IS AGAIN ABOUT TRYING TO GO BACK TO A MORE CONSERVATIVE PLACE WITH WOMEN TO GO BACK TO A MORE CONSERVATIVE PLACE WITH WOMEN THAT THIS IS HOPE WHO SAID, CONSERVATIVE PLACE WITH WOMEN THAT THIS IS HOPE WHO SAID, LET'S NOT FOCUS ON THE LITTLE THAT THIS IS HOPE WHO SAID, LET'S NOT FOCUS ON THE LITTLE WORLD BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAS LET'S NOT FOCUS ON THE LITTLE WORLD BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAS CONTINUOUSLY SUPPORTED EFFORTS WORLD BUT AT THE SAME TIME HAS CONTINUOUSLY SUPPORTED EFFORTS BY THOSE IN THE VAN CAN CONTINUOUSLY SUPPORTED EFFORTS BY THOSE IN THE VAN CAN HIERARCHY TO KEEP TRACKING -- BY THOSE IN THE VAN CAN HIERARCHY TO KEEP TRACKING -- CRACKING DOWN ON CONTRACEPTION HIERARCHY TO KEEP TRACKING -- CRACKING DOWN ON CONTRACEPTION AND THE LIKE.

CRACKING DOWN ON CONTRACEPTION AND THE LIKE.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: AND THE LIKE.

BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THE ECONOMIC CASE FOR WOMEN'S BEHIND THE HEADLINES: THE ECONOMIC CASE FOR WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT.

THE ECONOMIC CASE FOR WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT.

A NEW WORLD BANK REPORT FINDS EMPOWERMENT.

A NEW WORLD BANK REPORT FINDS DENYING A WOMAN'S INDEPENDENCE A NEW WORLD BANK REPORT FINDS DENYING A WOMAN'S INDEPENDENCE NOT ONLY HINDERS THE DEVELOPMENT DENYING A WOMAN'S INDEPENDENCE NOT ONLY HINDERS THE DEVELOPMENT OF HER FAMILY AND HER COMMUNITY NOT ONLY HINDERS THE DEVELOPMENT OF HER FAMILY AND HER COMMUNITY BUT HER ENTIRE COUNTRY.

OF HER FAMILY AND HER COMMUNITY BUT HER ENTIRE COUNTRY.

>> WE'VE JUST LAUNCHED A MAJOR BUT HER ENTIRE COUNTRY.

>> WE'VE JUST LAUNCHED A MAJOR REPORT ABOUT AGENCY WHICH IS >> WE'VE JUST LAUNCHED A MAJOR REPORT ABOUT AGENCY WHICH IS ABOUT WOMEN BEING ABLE TO MAKE REPORT ABOUT AGENCY WHICH IS ABOUT WOMEN BEING ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT BASIC ASPECTS OF ABOUT WOMEN BEING ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT BASIC ASPECTS OF THEIR OWN LIVES.

DECISIONS ABOUT BASIC ASPECTS OF THEIR OWN LIVES.

LIKE WHETHER, WHEN, HOW MANY THEIR OWN LIVES.

LIKE WHETHER, WHEN, HOW MANY CHILDREN TO HAVE.

LIKE WHETHER, WHEN, HOW MANY CHILDREN TO HAVE.

BEING ABLE TO BUY LAND OR CHILDREN TO HAVE.

BEING ABLE TO BUY LAND OR INHERIT LAND.

BEING ABLE TO BUY LAND OR INHERIT LAND.

BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN INHERIT LAND.

BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC LIFE AS WELL AS IN THEIR BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC LIFE AS WELL AS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

PUBLIC LIFE AS WELL AS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

AND WHAT WE SEE SYSTEMATICALLY COMMUNITIES.

AND WHAT WE SEE SYSTEMATICALLY AROUND THE WORLD IS THAT THIS IS AND WHAT WE SEE SYSTEMATICALLY AROUND THE WORLD IS THAT THIS IS TOO OFTEN DENIED IN VERY AROUND THE WORLD IS THAT THIS IS TOO OFTEN DENIED IN VERY IMPORTANT WAYS.

TOO OFTEN DENIED IN VERY IMPORTANT WAYS.

>> THE REPORT SHOWS IN CONCRETE, IMPORTANT WAYS.

>> THE REPORT SHOWS IN CONCRETE, ECONOMIC TERMS HOW WOMEN'S >> THE REPORT SHOWS IN CONCRETE, ECONOMIC TERMS HOW WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT OR THE LACK THEREOF ECONOMIC TERMS HOW WOMEN'S EMPOWERMENT OR THE LACK THEREOF CHANGES A COUNTRY'S ECONOMY.

EMPOWERMENT OR THE LACK THEREOF CHANGES A COUNTRY'S ECONOMY.

>> IF YOU IMPROVE THE EQUAL CHANGES A COUNTRY'S ECONOMY.

>> IF YOU IMPROVE THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, THE GENDER GAP, >> IF YOU IMPROVE THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, THE GENDER GAP, ACTUALLY YOU CAN GAIN 14% OF OPPORTUNITY, THE GENDER GAP, ACTUALLY YOU CAN GAIN 14% OF YOUR GDP LARGER OR HIGHER.

ACTUALLY YOU CAN GAIN 14% OF YOUR GDP LARGER OR HIGHER.

THAT'S REALLY A SIGNIFICANT YOUR GDP LARGER OR HIGHER.

THAT'S REALLY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT FOR ANY COUNTRY TO TRY TO THAT'S REALLY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT FOR ANY COUNTRY TO TRY TO ELIMINATE POVERTY, TO IMPROVE AMOUNT FOR ANY COUNTRY TO TRY TO ELIMINATE POVERTY, TO IMPROVE THE PROSPERITY OF THE PEOPLE.

ELIMINATE POVERTY, TO IMPROVE THE PROSPERITY OF THE PEOPLE.

>> FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE THE PROSPERITY OF THE PEOPLE.

>> FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY CLINTON JOINED THE >> FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE HILLARY CLINTON JOINED THE PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK AND HILLARY CLINTON JOINED THE PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UN PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UN WOMEN TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEED FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UN WOMEN TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEED FOR PROOF OF THIS ECONOMIC IMPACT.

WOMEN TO HIGHLIGHT THE NEED FOR PROOF OF THIS ECONOMIC IMPACT.

CLINTON SAYS THE WORLD BANK PROOF OF THIS ECONOMIC IMPACT.

CLINTON SAYS THE WORLD BANK REPORT NOT ONLY MEASURES CLINTON SAYS THE WORLD BANK REPORT NOT ONLY MEASURES PROGRESS BUT INSPIRES IT.

REPORT NOT ONLY MEASURES PROGRESS BUT INSPIRES IT.

>> MANY OF US, I LOOK AROUND THE PROGRESS BUT INSPIRES IT.

>> MANY OF US, I LOOK AROUND THE AUDIENCE, HAVE MADE THE CASE ON >> MANY OF US, I LOOK AROUND THE AUDIENCE, HAVE MADE THE CASE ON A MORAL HUMANITARIAN HUMAN AUDIENCE, HAVE MADE THE CASE ON A MORAL HUMANITARIAN HUMAN RIGHTS BASE FOR A NUMBER OF A MORAL HUMANITARIAN HUMAN RIGHTS BASE FOR A NUMBER OF DECADES.

RIGHTS BASE FOR A NUMBER OF DECADES.

WE'RE NOW BUILDING ON A MUCH DECADES.

WE'RE NOW BUILDING ON A MUCH STRONGER FOUNDATION IN ORDER TO WE'RE NOW BUILDING ON A MUCH STRONGER FOUNDATION IN ORDER TO MAKE THE CASE AS TO WHY WOMEN'S STRONGER FOUNDATION IN ORDER TO MAKE THE CASE AS TO WHY WOMEN'S EQUAL, FULL PARTICIPATION, THEIR MAKE THE CASE AS TO WHY WOMEN'S EQUAL, FULL PARTICIPATION, THEIR VOICE AND AGENCY IS NOT ONLY THE EQUAL, FULL PARTICIPATION, THEIR VOICE AND AGENCY IS NOT ONLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO BUT THE SMART VOICE AND AGENCY IS NOT ONLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO BUT THE SMART THING.

RIGHT THING TO DO BUT THE SMART THING.

>> THE GREAT WAY IS THAT THE THING.

>> THE GREAT WAY IS THAT THE EVIDENCE IS CAUSE UP.

>> THE GREAT WAY IS THAT THE EVIDENCE IS CAUSE UP.

THE NUMBERS ARE REALLY CLEAR.

EVIDENCE IS CAUSE UP.

THE NUMBERS ARE REALLY CLEAR.

DISCRIMINATION IS BAD FOR THE NUMBERS ARE REALLY CLEAR.

DISCRIMINATION IS BAD FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH.

DISCRIMINATION IS BAD FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH.

>> THE WORLD BANK REPORTS ECONOMIC GROWTH.

>> THE WORLD BANK REPORTS GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE COSTS MANY >> THE WORLD BANK REPORTS GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE COSTS MANY COUNTRIES BETWEEN JUST MORE THAN GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE COSTS MANY COUNTRIES BETWEEN JUST MORE THAN ONE TO ALMOST FOUR PERCENT OF COUNTRIES BETWEEN JUST MORE THAN ONE TO ALMOST FOUR PERCENT OF PERCENT OF THEIR ENTIRE ECONOMIC ONE TO ALMOST FOUR PERCENT OF PERCENT OF THEIR ENTIRE ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY---THAT'S HUGE.

PERCENT OF THEIR ENTIRE ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY---THAT'S HUGE.

TEEN PREGNANCY COSTS INDIA A PRODUCTIVITY---THAT'S HUGE.

TEEN PREGNANCY COSTS INDIA A MAMMOTH 12% AND UGANDA 30% TEEN PREGNANCY COSTS INDIA A MAMMOTH 12% AND UGANDA 30% >> IN MOST OF THE WORLD NO PLACE MAMMOTH 12% AND UGANDA 30% >> IN MOST OF THE WORLD NO PLACE IS LESS SAFE FOR A WOMAN THAN >> IN MOST OF THE WORLD NO PLACE IS LESS SAFE FOR A WOMAN THAN HER OWN HOME.

IS LESS SAFE FOR A WOMAN THAN HER OWN HOME.

80 NILL I DON'T THINK WOMEN HAVE HER OWN HOME.

80 NILL I DON'T THINK WOMEN HAVE PREGNANCIES THAT WERE UNINTENDED 80 NILL I DON'T THINK WOMEN HAVE PREGNANCIES THAT WERE UNINTENDED THE VAST MAJORITY WANTING TO PREGNANCIES THAT WERE UNINTENDED THE VAST MAJORITY WANTING TO DELAY OR NOT HAVE AT ALL.

THE VAST MAJORITY WANTING TO DELAY OR NOT HAVE AT ALL.

IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES DELAY OR NOT HAVE AT ALL.

IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES PREGNANCY RELATED ISSUES ARE THE IN DEVELOPING COUNTRIES PREGNANCY RELATED ISSUES ARE THE LARGEST CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG PREGNANCY RELATED ISSUES ARE THE LARGEST CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG HIGH SCHOOL AGED GIRLS.

LARGEST CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG HIGH SCHOOL AGED GIRLS.

>> THE REPORT MAKES THE CASE FOR HIGH SCHOOL AGED GIRLS.

>> THE REPORT MAKES THE CASE FOR LEGAL REFORM, BUT ONLY AS PART >> THE REPORT MAKES THE CASE FOR LEGAL REFORM, BUT ONLY AS PART OF THE SOLUTION.

LEGAL REFORM, BUT ONLY AS PART OF THE SOLUTION.

ENDING SOCIETAL AND CULTURAL OF THE SOLUTION.

ENDING SOCIETAL AND CULTURAL NORMS LIKE GENDER-BASED ENDING SOCIETAL AND CULTURAL NORMS LIKE GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE, CHILD BRIDES AND NORMS LIKE GENDER-BASED VIOLENCE, CHILD BRIDES AND MATERNAL MORTALITY ARE KEY TO VIOLENCE, CHILD BRIDES AND MATERNAL MORTALITY ARE KEY TO LASTING CHANGE.

MATERNAL MORTALITY ARE KEY TO LASTING CHANGE.

>> THE LAWS HELP TO LASTING CHANGE.

>> THE LAWS HELP TO DELEGITIMIZE CERTAIN BEHAVIOR >> THE LAWS HELP TO DELEGITIMIZE CERTAIN BEHAVIOR NOT THAT IT ELIMINATES IT.

DELEGITIMIZE CERTAIN BEHAVIOR NOT THAT IT ELIMINATES IT.

VERY OFTEN THOSE LAWS ARE NOT NOT THAT IT ELIMINATES IT.

VERY OFTEN THOSE LAWS ARE NOT ENFORCED, THEY'RE NOT VERY OFTEN THOSE LAWS ARE NOT ENFORCED, THEY'RE NOT IMPLEMENTED AND THEY DON'T REACH ENFORCED, THEY'RE NOT IMPLEMENTED AND THEY DON'T REACH NORMS.

IMPLEMENTED AND THEY DON'T REACH NORMS.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE NORMS IF NORMS.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE NORMS IF YOU'RE ONLY TALKING TO WOMEN AND YOU CANNOT CHANGE NORMS IF YOU'RE ONLY TALKING TO WOMEN AND GIRLS ABOUT CHANGING THE NORMS YOU'RE ONLY TALKING TO WOMEN AND GIRLS ABOUT CHANGING THE NORMS THAT RESTRICT THEIR VOICE AND GIRLS ABOUT CHANGING THE NORMS THAT RESTRICT THEIR VOICE AND AGENCY.

THAT RESTRICT THEIR VOICE AND AGENCY.

>> UN WOMEN LAUNCHED THE HE FOR AGENCY.

>> UN WOMEN LAUNCHED THE HE FOR SHE CAMPAIGN ONLINE TO TRY TO >> UN WOMEN LAUNCHED THE HE FOR SHE CAMPAIGN ONLINE TO TRY TO MOBILIZE A BILLION MEN TO TAKE SHE CAMPAIGN ONLINE TO TRY TO MOBILIZE A BILLION MEN TO TAKE STANDS.

MOBILIZE A BILLION MEN TO TAKE STANDS.

>> WE ASK MEN TO UPLOAD STANDS.

>> WE ASK MEN TO UPLOAD THEMSELVES ON A DIGITAL MEDIA >> WE ASK MEN TO UPLOAD THEMSELVES ON A DIGITAL MEDIA EXPLAINING WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND THEMSELVES ON A DIGITAL MEDIA EXPLAINING WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND BY GENDER INEQUALITY AND WHAT EXPLAINING WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND BY GENDER INEQUALITY AND WHAT MEN SHOULD DO.

BY GENDER INEQUALITY AND WHAT MEN SHOULD DO.

>> THE CLINTON FOUNDATION'S KNOW MEN SHOULD DO.

>> THE CLINTON FOUNDATION'S KNOW CEILING PROGRESS >> THE CLINTON FOUNDATION'S KNOW CEILING PROGRESS WILL ASSESS WOMEN'S PROGRESS CEILING PROGRESS WILL ASSESS WOMEN'S PROGRESS SINCE THE 1995 UN CONFERENCE ON WILL ASSESS WOMEN'S PROGRESS SINCE THE 1995 UN CONFERENCE ON WOMEN IN BEIJING WHERE THEN SINCE THE 1995 UN CONFERENCE ON WOMEN IN BEIJING WHERE THEN FIRST-LADY HILLARY CLINTON MADE WOMEN IN BEIJING WHERE THEN FIRST-LADY HILLARY CLINTON MADE HER "WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE HUMAN FIRST-LADY HILLARY CLINTON MADE HER "WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS" SPEECH.

HER "WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS" SPEECH.

ONE AREA WHERE IT IS ALREADY RIGHTS" SPEECH.

ONE AREA WHERE IT IS ALREADY KNOWN THERE HAVE BEEN GAINS IS ONE AREA WHERE IT IS ALREADY KNOWN THERE HAVE BEEN GAINS IS IN PRIMARY EDUCATION.

KNOWN THERE HAVE BEEN GAINS IS IN PRIMARY EDUCATION.

THE BANK REPORTS THIS IS IN PRIMARY EDUCATION.

THE BANK REPORTS THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT SOCIAL NORMS CAN THE BANK REPORTS THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT SOCIAL NORMS CAN CHANGE AND IMPROVE LIVES.

EVIDENCE THAT SOCIAL NORMS CAN CHANGE AND IMPROVE LIVES.

>> WOMAN WHO HAVE THE EQUAL CHANGE AND IMPROVE LIVES.

>> WOMAN WHO HAVE THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY CAN HAVE THE ABILITY >> WOMAN WHO HAVE THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN, TO SEND OPPORTUNITY CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN, TO SEND THEM TO THE EDUCATION.

TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN, TO SEND THEM TO THE EDUCATION.

ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR OF EDUCATION THEM TO THE EDUCATION.

ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR OF EDUCATION FOR A WOMAN WILL HAVE AN ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR OF EDUCATION FOR A WOMAN WILL HAVE AN INCREASING EARNING FOR THEIR FOR A WOMAN WILL HAVE AN INCREASING EARNING FOR THEIR FEWER TOUR WAGE UP TO 30%.

INCREASING EARNING FOR THEIR FEWER TOUR WAGE UP TO 30%.

>> THE WORLD BANK PLANS TO USE FEWER TOUR WAGE UP TO 30%.

>> THE WORLD BANK PLANS TO USE VOICE AND AGENCY AS A CENTRAL >> THE WORLD BANK PLANS TO USE VOICE AND AGENCY AS A CENTRAL PART OF ITS GLOBAL DEVELOPMENT VOICE AND AGENCY AS A CENTRAL PART OF ITS GLOBAL DEVELOPMENT AGENDA.

PART OF ITS GLOBAL DEVELOPMENT AGENDA.

IT WILL APPLY WHAT IT CALLS A AGENDA.

IT WILL APPLY WHAT IT CALLS A GENDER LENS WHEN INVESTING IN IT WILL APPLY WHAT IT CALLS A GENDER LENS WHEN INVESTING IN COUNTRIES.

GENDER LENS WHEN INVESTING IN COUNTRIES.

>> 31 BILLION OF OUR LENDING COUNTRIES.

>> 31 BILLION OF OUR LENDING LAST YEAR, MORE THAN 90% OR 98% >> 31 BILLION OF OUR LENDING LAST YEAR, MORE THAN 90% OR 98% ACTUALLY NOW GENDER MAINSTREAM LAST YEAR, MORE THAN 90% OR 98% ACTUALLY NOW GENDER MAINSTREAM MEANING THAT EACH OF OUR PROJECT ACTUALLY NOW GENDER MAINSTREAM MEANING THAT EACH OF OUR PROJECT WILL BE DESIGNED WITH THE MEANING THAT EACH OF OUR PROJECT WILL BE DESIGNED WITH THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THIS IS GOING WILL BE DESIGNED WITH THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE BENEFITTING WOMEN OR PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE BENEFITTING WOMEN OR GIRLS.

TO BE BENEFITTING WOMEN OR GIRLS.

>> NOW WE HAVE PROOF WHEN YOU GIRLS.

>> NOW WE HAVE PROOF WHEN YOU GIVE WOMEN MORE FREEDOM, >> NOW WE HAVE PROOF WHEN YOU GIVE WOMEN MORE FREEDOM, ECONOMIC POWER, THEY CONTRIBUTE GIVE WOMEN MORE FREEDOM, ECONOMIC POWER, THEY CONTRIBUTE TO AND HELP GROW COUNTRY'S ECONOMIC POWER, THEY CONTRIBUTE TO AND HELP GROW COUNTRY'S ECONOMIES.

TO AND HELP GROW COUNTRY'S ECONOMIES.

WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS?

ECONOMIES.

WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS?

>> IT'S TIME TO MOVE.

WHAT DO WE DO WITH THIS?

>> IT'S TIME TO MOVE.

IT'S BEEN TIME TO MOVE ALONG >> IT'S TIME TO MOVE.

IT'S BEEN TIME TO MOVE ALONG TIME WE KNOW IT'S NOT HUMAN IT'S BEEN TIME TO MOVE ALONG TIME WE KNOW IT'S NOT HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE TO HAVE FULL AND TIME WE KNOW IT'S NOT HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE TO HAVE FULL AND EQUAL PARTICIPATION OF WOMEN AND RIGHTS ISSUE TO HAVE FULL AND EQUAL PARTICIPATION OF WOMEN AND GIRLS IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE.

EQUAL PARTICIPATION OF WOMEN AND GIRLS IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE.

BUT IT'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.

GIRLS IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE.

BUT IT'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

BUT IT'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC ISSUE.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE ONE OF WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED MOST IS IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED MOST IS INVESTMENT.

THE THINGS THAT WE NEED MOST IS INVESTMENT.

INVESTMENT IN AREAS THAT WILL INVESTMENT.

INVESTMENT IN AREAS THAT WILL IMPROVE WOMEN, STOPPING VIOLENCE INVESTMENT IN AREAS THAT WILL IMPROVE WOMEN, STOPPING VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN AND VIOLENCE FROM IMPROVE WOMEN, STOPPING VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN AND VIOLENCE FROM INTIMATE PARTNERS SOMETHING THAT AGAINST WOMEN AND VIOLENCE FROM INTIMATE PARTNERS SOMETHING THAT IS EXPERIENCED -- YOU GOT ONE IN INTIMATE PARTNERS SOMETHING THAT IS EXPERIENCED -- YOU GOT ONE IN THREE WOMEN IN THIS WORLD BEING IS EXPERIENCED -- YOU GOT ONE IN THREE WOMEN IN THIS WORLD BEING SUBJECT TO INTIMATE VIOLENCE AT THREE WOMEN IN THIS WORLD BEING SUBJECT TO INTIMATE VIOLENCE AT THE HANDS OF HUSBAND OR SUBJECT TO INTIMATE VIOLENCE AT THE HANDS OF HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND.

THE HANDS OF HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND.

OR CONTRACEPTION AND ACCESS TO BOYFRIEND.

OR CONTRACEPTION AND ACCESS TO FAMILY PLANNING.

OR CONTRACEPTION AND ACCESS TO FAMILY PLANNING.

DELAYED CHILD BIRTH IS ONE OF FAMILY PLANNING.

DELAYED CHILD BIRTH IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO DELAYED CHILD BIRTH IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO FOR WOMEN, DELAYING MARRIAGE THE BEST THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO FOR WOMEN, DELAYING MARRIAGE MEANS THAT A WOMAN WILL BE MORE FOR WOMEN, DELAYING MARRIAGE MEANS THAT A WOMAN WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO LIVE LONGER, THE MEANS THAT A WOMAN WILL BE MORE LIKELY TO LIVE LONGER, THE CHILDREN SHE DOES HAVE HAVE LIKELY TO LIVE LONGER, THE CHILDREN SHE DOES HAVE HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO EDUCATION, CHILDREN SHE DOES HAVE HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO EDUCATION, BETTER HEALTH OUTCOME.

BETTER ACCESS TO EDUCATION, BETTER HEALTH OUTCOME.

INTERESTING TO GO FULL CIRCLE BETTER HEALTH OUTCOME.

INTERESTING TO GO FULL CIRCLE FROM THE POPE TALKING ABOUT INTERESTING TO GO FULL CIRCLE FROM THE POPE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

FROM THE POPE TALKING ABOUT THAT.

THAN OF COURSE ACCESS TO THAT.

THAN OF COURSE ACCESS TO EDUCATION IS HUGE.

THAN OF COURSE ACCESS TO EDUCATION IS HUGE.

WE'VE GOT TO REALLY PUT ON OUR EDUCATION IS HUGE.

WE'VE GOT TO REALLY PUT ON OUR BOOTS AND GET READY AND COMMIT WE'VE GOT TO REALLY PUT ON OUR BOOTS AND GET READY AND COMMIT OUR DOLLARS.

BOOTS AND GET READY AND COMMIT OUR DOLLARS.

>> IT'S VERY INTERESTING, WE HAD OUR DOLLARS.

>> IT'S VERY INTERESTING, WE HAD A BIG STORY THIS WEEK WITH >> IT'S VERY INTERESTING, WE HAD A BIG STORY THIS WEEK WITH RELEASE OF FIVE TALIBAN A BIG STORY THIS WEEK WITH RELEASE OF FIVE TALIBAN OFFICIALS IN TRADE FOR AMERICAN RELEASE OF FIVE TALIBAN OFFICIALS IN TRADE FOR AMERICAN SOLDIERS HELD PRISONER.

OFFICIALS IN TRADE FOR AMERICAN SOLDIERS HELD PRISONER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SURPRISED SOLDIERS HELD PRISONER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SURPRISED ME IS HOW LITTLE SOME OF US WHO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SURPRISED ME IS HOW LITTLE SOME OF US WHO TALK ABOUT THE WAR ON TERROR DO ME IS HOW LITTLE SOME OF US WHO TALK ABOUT THE WAR ON TERROR DO NOT FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT TALK ABOUT THE WAR ON TERROR DO NOT FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT SOCIETY IS LIKE AFGHANISTAN NOT FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT SOCIETY IS LIKE AFGHANISTAN UNDER TALIBAN, LIKE IRAN, LIKE SOCIETY IS LIKE AFGHANISTAN UNDER TALIBAN, LIKE IRAN, LIKE SO MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE UNDER TALIBAN, LIKE IRAN, LIKE SO MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD WHERE WOMEN ARE TREATED SO MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD WHERE WOMEN ARE TREATED NOT JUST AS CHATTEL, I MEAN THEY WORLD WHERE WOMEN ARE TREATED NOT JUST AS CHATTEL, I MEAN THEY ARE KEPT FROM THENNING, WHEN NOT JUST AS CHATTEL, I MEAN THEY ARE KEPT FROM THENNING, WHEN THEY DO TRY TO GO TO SCHOOL, GET ARE KEPT FROM THENNING, WHEN THEY DO TRY TO GO TO SCHOOL, GET SHOT LIKE THE GIRL FROM THEY DO TRY TO GO TO SCHOOL, GET SHOT LIKE THE GIRL FROM AFGHANISTAN.

SHOT LIKE THE GIRL FROM AFGHANISTAN.

>> MILALA.

AFGHANISTAN.

>> MILALA.

>> HAPPENED TO HER.

>> MILALA.

>> HAPPENED TO HER.

EDUCATION IS THE KEY.

>> HAPPENED TO HER.

EDUCATION IS THE KEY.

IF YOU EDUCATE YOUNG WOMEN IT EDUCATION IS THE KEY.

IF YOU EDUCATE YOUNG WOMEN IT DOES DELAY THEIR HAVING CHILDREN IF YOU EDUCATE YOUNG WOMEN IT DOES DELAY THEIR HAVING CHILDREN AT TOO YOUNG AN AGE.

DOES DELAY THEIR HAVING CHILDREN AT TOO YOUNG AN AGE.

THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY.

AT TOO YOUNG AN AGE.

THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY.

BUT THERE ARE UNFORTUNATELY THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY.

BUT THERE ARE UNFORTUNATELY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, MANY BUT THERE ARE UNFORTUNATELY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, MANY OF THEM ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, MANY OF THEM ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES WHICH WANT TO KEEP OF THEM ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES WHICH WANT TO KEEP WOMEN DOWN.

COUNTRIES WHICH WANT TO KEEP WOMEN DOWN.

THAT SEEMS TO BE AS MUCH AS WOMEN DOWN.

THAT SEEMS TO BE AS MUCH AS ANYTHING THE BASIS OF THEIR THAT SEEMS TO BE AS MUCH AS ANYTHING THE BASIS OF THEIR IDEOLOGY.

ANYTHING THE BASIS OF THEIR IDEOLOGY.

>> VERY SAD TO SEE THAT IDEOLOGY.

>> VERY SAD TO SEE THAT CORRELATION, I'M AFRAID YOU DO.

>> VERY SAD TO SEE THAT CORRELATION, I'M AFRAID YOU DO.

ALL THOSE BAD THINGS FOR A CORRELATION, I'M AFRAID YOU DO.

ALL THOSE BAD THINGS FOR A MOMENT, THIS IS THE FUNCTIONAL ALL THOSE BAD THINGS FOR A MOMENT, THIS IS THE FUNCTIONAL EQUIVALENT OF HAVING TWO SONS.

MOMENT, THIS IS THE FUNCTIONAL EQUIVALENT OF HAVING TWO SONS.

AND MEN EQUALLY HAVE BROWN EYES EQUIVALENT OF HAVING TWO SONS.

AND MEN EQUALLY HAVE BROWN EYES AND GREEN EYES YOU SAY, FOR YOU AND MEN EQUALLY HAVE BROWN EYES AND GREEN EYES YOU SAY, FOR YOU WHO HAVE BROWN EYES WE DON'T AND GREEN EYES YOU SAY, FOR YOU WHO HAVE BROWN EYES WE DON'T NEED YOUR USE IN THE WORLD.

WHO HAVE BROWN EYES WE DON'T NEED YOUR USE IN THE WORLD.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE NEED YOUR USE IN THE WORLD.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO WOMEN.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO WOMEN.

YOU ARE NOT MAKING USE, WHATEVER DOING TO WOMEN.

YOU ARE NOT MAKING USE, WHATEVER TURNS OUT TO BE IN YOUR SOCIETY YOU ARE NOT MAKING USE, WHATEVER TURNS OUT TO BE IN YOUR SOCIETY OF HALF OF THE POPULATION.

TURNS OUT TO BE IN YOUR SOCIETY OF HALF OF THE POPULATION.

>> IS THAT A WINNING ARGUMENT -- OF HALF OF THE POPULATION.

>> IS THAT A WINNING ARGUMENT -- THAT ARGUMENT HAS BEEN AROUND >> IS THAT A WINNING ARGUMENT -- THAT ARGUMENT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

THAT ARGUMENT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

DISCRIMINATION MEANS YOU'RE NOT FOR A LONG TIME.

DISCRIMINATION MEANS YOU'RE NOT MAKING USE OF ALL THIS TALENT DISCRIMINATION MEANS YOU'RE NOT MAKING USE OF ALL THIS TALENT THAT YOU HAVE.

MAKING USE OF ALL THIS TALENT THAT YOU HAVE.

BUT HAS THAT BEEN A WINNING THAT YOU HAVE.

BUT HAS THAT BEEN A WINNING ARGUMENT WITH MEN?

BUT HAS THAT BEEN A WINNING ARGUMENT WITH MEN?

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT USE IN ARGUMENT WITH MEN?

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT USE IN TERMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED >> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT USE IN TERMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED HERE.

TERMS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED HERE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WOMEN WHO HAVE HERE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WOMEN WHO HAVE CLOSER RELATIONSHIPS TO CHILDREN FOR EXAMPLE, WOMEN WHO HAVE CLOSER RELATIONSHIPS TO CHILDREN AND IF THEY HAD MORE EDUCATION CLOSER RELATIONSHIPS TO CHILDREN AND IF THEY HAD MORE EDUCATION THEY WILL SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO AND IF THEY HAD MORE EDUCATION THEY WILL SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL MORE LIKELY TO SEND THEIR THEY WILL SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL MORE LIKELY TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.

SCHOOL MORE LIKELY TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.

I'M TALKING ABOUT MAKING FULL CHILDREN TO SCHOOL.

I'M TALKING ABOUT MAKING FULL USE OF WHATEVER ROLE YOU GIVE I'M TALKING ABOUT MAKING FULL USE OF WHATEVER ROLE YOU GIVE WOMEN.

USE OF WHATEVER ROLE YOU GIVE WOMEN.

AND I AM SAYING, ISLAMIC WOMEN.

AND I AM SAYING, ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ARE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AND I AM SAYING, ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ARE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT, THE FURTHER YOU PUSH THIS COUNTRIES ARE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT, THE FURTHER YOU PUSH THIS HALF -- AT LEAST THAT OF THE THAT, THE FURTHER YOU PUSH THIS HALF -- AT LEAST THAT OF THE POPULATION ASIDE THE MORE LIKELY HALF -- AT LEAST THAT OF THE POPULATION ASIDE THE MORE LIKELY IT IS YOU WILL GET NO USE OUT OF POPULATION ASIDE THE MORE LIKELY IT IS YOU WILL GET NO USE OUT OF THEM, YOU USE THEM RATHER THAN IT IS YOU WILL GET NO USE OUT OF THEM, YOU USE THEM RATHER THAN GETTING WHATEVER FUNDAMENTAL USE THEM, YOU USE THEM RATHER THAN GETTING WHATEVER FUNDAMENTAL USE YOU CAN GET OUT IN YOUR GETTING WHATEVER FUNDAMENTAL USE YOU CAN GET OUT IN YOUR PARTICULAR SOCIETY.

YOU CAN GET OUT IN YOUR PARTICULAR SOCIETY.

>> I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTICULAR SOCIETY.

>> I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HALL THANKS WOMEN FACE ALL >> I'M GLAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HALL THANKS WOMEN FACE ALL AROUND THE WORLD ONE OF THE HALL THANKS WOMEN FACE ALL AROUND THE WORLD ONE OF THE THINGS THINK WAS MOST AROUND THE WORLD ONE OF THE THINGS THINK WAS MOST INTERESTING IN THE COMMENCEMENT THINGS THINK WAS MOST INTERESTING IN THE COMMENCEMENT SPEECH, I SPEAK ON A LOT OF INTERESTING IN THE COMMENCEMENT SPEECH, I SPEAK ON A LOT OF COLLEGE CAMPUSES, IF YOU HAD SPEECH, I SPEAK ON A LOT OF COLLEGE CAMPUSES, IF YOU HAD CHRIS TIE ALI WAS SUPPOSED TO COLLEGE CAMPUSES, IF YOU HAD CHRIS TIE ALI WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK AT BRANDEIS.

CHRIS TIE ALI WAS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK AT BRANDEIS.

REALLY TRYING TO -- SPEAK AT BRANDEIS.

REALLY TRYING TO -- >> HAVE HAD HERE ON THE SHOW REALLY TRYING TO -- >> HAVE HAD HERE ON THE SHOW TWICE.

>> HAVE HAD HERE ON THE SHOW TWICE.

WHAT THEY DID WAS TWICE.

WHAT THEY DID WAS UNCONSCIONABLE.

WHAT THEY DID WAS UNCONSCIONABLE.

>> TRYING TO BRING ATTENTION TO UNCONSCIONABLE.

>> TRYING TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUES.

>> TRYING TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUES.

THERE WERE PROTESTS, I HOPE THE ISSUES.

THERE WERE PROTESTS, I HOPE REPORTS LIKE THIS, SHINE FOR THERE WERE PROTESTS, I HOPE REPORTS LIKE THIS, SHINE FOR LIGHT ON SOME OF THE CHALLENGES REPORTS LIKE THIS, SHINE FOR LIGHT ON SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THESE WOMEN ARE FACING.

LIGHT ON SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THESE WOMEN ARE FACING.

>> IS THIS JUST A DEVELOPING THESE WOMEN ARE FACING.

>> IS THIS JUST A DEVELOPING NATION PROBLEM OR IS IT OURS, >> IS THIS JUST A DEVELOPING NATION PROBLEM OR IS IT OURS, TOO?

NATION PROBLEM OR IS IT OURS, TOO?

WOMEN ARE NOT PARITY TOO?

WOMEN ARE NOT PARITY ECONOMICALLY IN THIS COUNTRY WOMEN ARE NOT PARITY ECONOMICALLY IN THIS COUNTRY YET.

ECONOMICALLY IN THIS COUNTRY YET.

>> OF COURSE THEY AREN'T.

YET.

>> OF COURSE THEY AREN'T.

WE ADDRESS THE EQUALITY OF WOMEN >> OF COURSE THEY AREN'T.

WE ADDRESS THE EQUALITY OF WOMEN EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

WE ADDRESS THE EQUALITY OF WOMEN EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

SPECIFICS MAY BE DIFFERENT BUT EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

SPECIFICS MAY BE DIFFERENT BUT WE ALL DESERVE AN EQUAL SHOT.

SPECIFICS MAY BE DIFFERENT BUT WE ALL DESERVE AN EQUAL SHOT.

>> THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION.

WE ALL DESERVE AN EQUAL SHOT.

>> THAT'S IT FOR THIS EDITION.

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