ALLEGED BY THE HOUSE MANAGERS.

DEMONSTRATES.

YOU CAN'T INCITE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

COUNTLESS POLITICIANS HAVE SPOKEN FOR FIGHTING FOR OUR PRINCIPLES.

JOE BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN WAS "BATTLE FOR AMERICA."

NO HUMAN BEING HERE REALLY BELIEVES THAT THE USE OF TERMINOLOGY IS INCITEMENT TO POLITICAL VIOLENCE.

>> THE TRIAL GOES ON OUR LIVE PBS NEWS COVERAGE BEGINS TOMORROW MORNING AT 10:00 ONLY ON ARIZONA PBS 8.3.

>> ALSO IN WASHINGTON, SENATOR KYRSTEN SINEMA MADE IT KNOWN TODAY THAT SHE DOES NOT WANT ANY COVID-RELIEF BILL TO INCLUDE A GRADUAL INCREASE IN THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $15 AN HOUR.

SINEMA TOLD POLITICO THAT THE WAGE HIKE DOESN'’’T BELONG IN A COVID-RELIEF PACKAGE.

SHE'’’S THE 2ND SENATE "DEMOCRAT" TO OPPOSE THE WAGE INCREASE, WHICH IS LIKELY TO BE PART OF A RELIEF-BILL SENT OVER FROM THE HOUSE.

AND ARIZONA CONTINUES TO SEE A DECLINE IN NEW CASES FOR COVID-19, THE STATE REPORTING OVER 24-HUNDRED NEW CASES TODAY.

HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR COVID CONTINUE TO TREND DOWNWARD AS WELL, WITH ADMISSIONS AT THEIR LOWEST LEVELS SINCE THANKSGIVING.

THE STATE'’’S DEATH TOLL IS NOT AS ENCOURAGING, WE'’’RE APPROACHING 15-THOUSAND COVID-RELATED FATALITIES, WITH 172-DEATHS ADDED TODAY.

THE STATE'’’S 7-DAY AVERAGE OF FATALITIES REMAINS THE 4TH-HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY.

>> TIME NOW FOR THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE, WHICH THIS WEEK INCLUDES A LOOK AT THE STATE SENATE'S CONTINUED FIGHT WITH MARICOPA COUNTY OVER ELECTIONS INFORMATION.

OUR ROUNDTABLE GUESTS: LAURIE ROBERTS OF THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND BOB CHRISTIE FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS.

>> AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THE MARICOPA COUNTY IN CONTEMPT.

BOTH FAILS.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> WELL, ONE OF THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS HAD AN ATTACK OVER THE WEEKEND.

HE TALKED TO SOME OF THE SUPERVISORS AND SOME OTHER PEOPLE, THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AND DECIDEED CIVILITY WAS THE WAY TO GO WITH THE REPUBLICAN-RUN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

TOMBOYER,TOMBOY--TOM BOYER WHEN THE TIME CAME WAS A NO-VOTE.

THEY WERE NOT EXPECTING IT TO BLOW UP IN THEIR FACES, BUT IT DID.

>> THEY WANT TO GIVE BOTH SIDES TO COOL OFF A LITTLE BIT HERE?

WHAT'S THE REASONING HERE?

>> HE COULD NOT, AT THE BRIDGE TOO FAR GO AND ARREST THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WHICH IS WHAT THAT VOTE COULD HAVE LED TO.

ONCE THEY FOUND THEM IN CONTEMPT OF A SUBPOENA, THEY COULD ARREST.

THEY DIDN'T GO THERE.

THEY SAID LISTEN, WE GOT TO WORK THIS OUT.

AND THE COURT IS THE WAY TO WORK IT OUT.

THE VOTE WAS NOT GOING TO GET US THERE.

>> ONE OF THE POINTS, YOU YOU CAN'T BREAK THE LAW IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE SUBPOENA.

IT'S UP TO THE COURT TO DECIDE IF IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW TO TURN OVER OR NOT.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE ENCOURAGING OR DEMANDING THAT THEY BREAK THE LAW.

THEY HAVE A WAY AROUND THAT AS WELL.

>> MARICOPA COUNTY IS SAYING THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUBPOENA.

NOT ARGUING THE RIGHT TO SUBPOENA SOMETHING THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW.

>> EXACTLY.

THE STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED LAWS, AND IT IS IN THE STATE LEGISLATION--THE STATE CONSTITUTION SAID IT IS HELD SECRET.

THEY WERE GOING TO TURN THEM OVER TO THE POLITICAL BRANCH TO DO WITH WHAT THEY WANTED.

THEY THINK THE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT.

TOMBOYER DOES NOT THINK THAT IT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT.

AND THEY THINK THEY'RE WAIVING THAT LAW IF IT IS A SUBPOENA.

AND THEY SAY THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT, TOO.

IT'S GOING TO THE COURTS.

HOPEFULLY WE WON'T SEE ANYONE ARRESTED FOR THIS, AND WE'LL LET THETHE COURT FIGURE IT OUT.

>> IT'S INTERESTING HOW DEVOID OF FACTS THIS THING HAS BECOME.

I WOULD ASSUME THE LOGICAL PLACE TO GO NOW IS TO THE COURTS TO HAVE A HEARING.

THAT'S THE WAY WE DO THINGS IN AMERICA.

YOU PRESENT YOUR POINT OF VIEW, AND THE JUDGE WILL WORK IT OUT, AND ULTIMATELY IT WILL END UP WITH THE ARIZONA SUPREME COURT.

THIS IS A LONG SLOG.

THEY'RE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL.

THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING TO THE SENATORS IS A HUGE NUMBER, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LET THIS GO.

>> THE SAD PART ABOUT THIS IS THAT TOM BOYER HAS BEEN SUBJECT TO THREATS.

THIS IS THE SAME THREATS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

MR. BOYER, IT IS NOT A FUN PLACE TO BE.

AND IT IS NOT--IT'S VERY SAD IN AMERICA TO HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS BE THREATENED THE WAY THEY SAY THEY'RE BEING THREATENED.

>> IT IS, HOWEVER, ENCOURAGING TO SEE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL PUT EVERYTHING ON THE LINE.

I CAN'T IMAGINE HE WON'T BE PRIMARIED IN TWO YEARS AND HE'S DOING THIS ANY WAY BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO SO.

I SAY PROPS TO SENATOR BOYER.

>> THEY'RE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH THE GOVERNOR REGARDING HIS EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS AND SUCH RIGGS.

NOW TO LIMIT EMERGENCY POWER TO SOMETHING LIKE 30 DAYS.

BUT VOTERS WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THIS, CORRECT?

>> YEAH, IT'S KIND OF SILLY.

YES, IT'S A REFERRAL TO THE VOTERS, WHICH WOULDN'T GO ON THE BALLOT UNTIL 2022.

AND I THINK THEY'RE PUSHING THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES THEM COVER FOR THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES TO CHANGE THE LAW NOW AND RESCIND THE GOVERNOR'S POWERS.

I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE VOTE.

THEY'RE GOING THIS WAY.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF THIS, BUT THE ONES THEY VOTED ON IN THE SENATE THIS WEEK WOULD REFER TO THE VOTERS.

>> LORI, WOULD THE VOTERS, IF GIVEN THE CHANCE, WANT TO KEEP THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE POWERS LIMITED TO 30 DAYS?

>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE LAW THAT WE HAVE CONTEMPLATED AN EMERGENCY THAT WOULD DRAG ON FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.

I THINK WHEN YOU THINK EMERGENCY, YOU'RE THINKING A FLASH FLOOD IS COMING, SOMETHING HORRIBLE IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT WILL HAVE A DEFINITE END DATE.

I THINK THE BETTER QUESTION IS ARE THEY PREPARED TO SAY THAT IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, THEY WANT THE 90 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE TO EACH WEIGH IN ON THINGS.

THESE PEOPLE CAN'T AGREE THAT IT'S FRIDAY.

SO I THINK IF I HAD TO GUESS, THE GOVERNOR PROBABLY HAS A HIGHER CONFIDENCE LEVEL WITH VOTERS, NOT THAT IT IS PROBABLY THAT HIGH, BUT A HIGHER CONFIDENCE LEVEL THAN THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE, SOY THINK IT WILL GO DOWN.

>> YEAH, BOB, DO YOU AGREE?

>> I WON'T PROGNOSTIC KATE ON ELECTIONS, BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE A TOUGH ONE.

>> A TOUGH SALE.

>> ADVANCING IN THE HOUSE THAT GUNS SHOULD BE IN CERTAIN GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS.

I FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.

>> APPARENTLY THREE VETOES WERE NOT ENOUGH UNDER PREVIOUS GOVERNOR JAN BREWER.

THE REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE WANT TO PASS A BILL THAT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO ALLOW ANYONE WHO HAS A CONCEAL CARRY PERMIT COME INTO PUBLIC BUILDING UNLESS THERE ARE ARMED GUARDS--WELL, THEY HAVE TO BE ARMED GUARDS AND ELECTRONIC T.A.

MONITOR MATERIALS.

THIS WOULD INCLUDE PUBLIC LIBRARY, CITY HALL, BUT IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE CITY PROSECUTOR, BUT IT WOULD INCLUDE COUNTY ELECTION OFFICES.

CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE A THING WE WANT TO EPEOPLE SEE.

A STICKER IS NOT GOING TO STOP ANYONE WHO IS A LAW ABIDEING CITIZEN--A STICKER--I GOT THAT BACKWARDS.

A STICKER THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T COME IN WITH A GUN WILL ONLY STOP LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS.

THE BAD GUYS WILL COME IN WITH A GUN.

BUT HE TOUTS ALL THIS TRAINING THAT THESE PEOPLE WILL HAVE IN THE CONCEAL PERMIT CARRY.

THEY GET TWO HOURS OF TRAINING.

AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SHOOT A GUN TO QUALIFY FOR A PERMIT.

SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT THAT COULD BE OUR LAST LINE OF DEFENSE IN PUBLIC BUILDINGS SHOULD THE WORSE HAPPEN.

THE REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPENS.

IT WILL PROBABLY ULTIMATELY COME UP TO A DECISION BY GOVERNOR DUCEY.

>> WHAT I KNOW IS THEY TRY THIS EVERY YEAR.

AND AS LAURIE MENTIONED, IT GOT VETOED THREE TIMES BY GOVERNOR BREWER.

IT HAS NEVER GONE TO GOVERNOR DUCEY.

BUT WITH THE CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR, IT MORE THAN LIKELY WILL GO TO GOVERNOR DUCEY AND THEN HE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION.

DO WE LET ANYONE WITH A GUN COME INTO A PUBLIC BUILDING.

>> WASN'T THE REASON FOR THE BREWER VETOES MOSTLY BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MONEY FOR THE SCREENING GUARDS AND OTHER WAYS TO KEEP FOLKS OUT THAT NEEDED TO BE KEPT OUT?

>> OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, AS LAURIE SAID.

METAL DETECTERS, SCREENING AT ALL THESE BUILDINGS THAT DON'T HAVE IT NOW.

EITHER YOU DON'T HAVE IT AND YOU LET EVERYBODY IN, OR HAVE IT AND SPEND UNTOLD NUMBER OF HOURS TO DECIDE THEY WANT PEOPLE WHO HAVE GUNS WALKING INTO THE LIBRARY WHERE LITTLE KIDS ARE.

>> IT IS PROGNOSTIC KATEING, BUT IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS LIKELY TO GET OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE?

>> I THINK IT WILL, IT HAS ALWAYS FAILED IN THE SENATE.

AND AND THOSE SENATORS WHO WOULD KILL IT ARE GONE NOW.

ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

YES, I THINK IT WILL GET OUT.

>> THAT WILL DO IT.

LAURIE ROBERTS, BOB CHRISTIE, THANK YOU BOTH AND BOTH YOU OF HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.

>> WE WILL.

>> UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON: IT'S BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

WE'LL HEAR THE PERSONAL STORIES OF TWO LOCAL LEADERS IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

>> ARIZONA HORIZON IS RECOGNIZING BLACK HISTORY MONTH WITH A SERIES OF DISCUSSIONS WITH LOCAL LEADERS IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

TONIGHT, OUR GUESTS ARE CLOVES CAMPBELL JR. AND STATE REP. REGINALD BOLDING.

>> AND GENTLEMEN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US HERE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE SPECIAL.

IT'S BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND WE WANT TO GET SOME LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY ON TO TALK ABOUT THEMSELVES.

WHAT DOES BLACK HISTORY MONTH MEAN TO THEM.

>> THIS MONTH IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HONOR THOSE WHO PAVED THE WAY BEFORE US, A AND WE CELEBRATE THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY WORKING.

BLACK HISTORY MONTH ALLOWS OUR COUNTRY, IT ALLOWS OUR PEOPLE AND THE WORLD TO KNOW THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE MADE.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CELEBRATE ALL YEAR LONG, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT ACKNOWLEDGE FOR MANY PEOPLE ACROSS THE WORLD.

>> CLOVES WITH A DOES THE MONTH AMEAN TO YOU?

>> I WOULD ECHO THE WORDS THAT REPRESENTATIVE BOLDING SAID.

BUT REFLECTING ON THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE.

LOOKING AT CONTRIBUTIONS FROM OUR BLACK-AMERICAN HEROES AS HEROES, AND APPRECIATE THAT AND IT'S NOT JUST BLACK HISTORY BUT AMERICAN HISTORY.

>> WE'LL START WITH REPRESENTATIVE BOLDING, YOU'RE FROM THE MIDWEST, CORRECT?

WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO ARIZONA?

>> SO, EDUCATION BROUGHT ME HERE.

YOU KNOW, I WAS ON MY WAY TO LAW SCHOOL, AND I WANTED TO GIVE BACK IN SOME WAY.

IT WAS PART OF A PROGRAM TEACH MORE AMERICA.

I WANTED TO BE A TEACHER AND I WANTED TO MAKE AN IMPACT IN SOME PLACE THAT WAS IN THE SOUTHWEST.

PHOENIX WAS THE PERFECT PLACE.

AND YOU KNOW, MY FIRST JOB WAS A TEACHER AT A SCHOOL THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT.

>> AND CLOVES CAMPBELL JR.

I THINK THE JR. TELLS US, UPBORNE HERE.

>> YEAH, HE TAUGHT AT JULIAN SCHOOL.

THAT'S A GRADE SCHOOL THAT I WENT TO IN PHOENIX.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF SOUTH PHOENIX AND THE HISTORY OF BLACKS IN PHOENIX, IT ALL STARTS AT THE ROOSEVELT SCHOOL DISTRICT LEVEL.

>> AND CLOVES, TELL US ABOUT BEING RAISED IN SOUTH PHOENIX.

WHAT IT WAS LIKE THEN.

WHAT IT'S LIKE NOW.

ADVANCES AND THINGS THAT STILL NEED TO BE IMPROVED.

>> WELL, SOUTH PHOENIX WAS A COMMUNITY OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE.

AT THAT TIME BLACK PEOPLE COULD NOT LIVE NORTH OF WASHINGTON AND VAN BUREN STREETS SO WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNEW EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND AT THAT TIME SOUTH PHOENIX HAD ITS ICONS LIKE MY DAD, REVEREND BROOKS, REVEREND BLACK, TRAVIS WILLIAMS AND SO ON.

THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMUNITY, A LOT OF GOOD FEELING, AND WE'VE SEEN THINGS GROW FROM THAT OUT.

>> I WANT TO GET TO YOUR DAD IN A MINUTE.

BUT REPRESENTATIVE BOLDING, YOU COME OUT, TEACH FOR AMERICA.

YOU'RE TEACHING AT THE SCHOOL AND YOU GET INTO POLITICS.

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

>> YOU KNOW, FOR ME ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW AT JULIAN WAS THAT WE HAD STUDENTS WITH ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE AND ALL OF THE SKILLS IN THE WORLD.

I TRULY KNOW THAT, AND I BELIEVE THE WORLD KNOW THAT.

BUT THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT THEY LACKED, ONE WAS ACCESS AND THEN OPPORTUNITY.

OUR KIDS DIDN'T KNOW PEOPLE WHICH MADE IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT JOB.

MANY TIMES IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW BUT WHO YOU KNOW.

FOR ME, RECOGNIZING THAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO OTHERS AND ONE WAY WAS TO CREATE THAT COMMUNITY.

AND THEN THE NEXT THING, WHEN YOU DRIVE TWO OR THREE HOURS FROM THE SCHOOLS I WAS TEACHING IN, PHOENIX LOOKED COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

AND IT WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT WORLD FOR OUR KIDS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE THE THINGS WE NEEDED FOR OUR STUDENTS.

THAT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE AT THE STATE CAPITOL.

NOT BECAUSE OF THE KIDS, IT WAS THE EDUCATION SYSTEM THAT JUST WENT PROVIDING THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEEDED IN THE BEST PLACE TO ACCESS THAT WAS AT THE TOP.

>> AND CLOVES YOU GOT INVOLVED IN POLITICS AS WELL.

YOU AND YOUR FATHER, VERY IMPORTANT NEWSPAPER, VERY IMPORTANT SOURCE OF INFORMATION.

WAS POLITICS--WAS IT EXPECTED OF YOU?

>> I THINK IT WAS EVENTUALLY.

I KNOW FOR A LONG TIME I WORKED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS.

FROM ART I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL UNFORTUNATELY AFTER HE PASSED AWAY.

AT THAT TIME A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID WHY DON'T YOU GET INVOLVED.

I HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT POLITICS AT THAT LEVEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW I HADN'T CONSIDERED.

BUT ONCE I DID, IT WAS A GOOD EXPERIENCE AND I'M GLAD THAT I DID IT.

>> WAS IT A GOOD EXPERIENCE?

WHAT DID YOU EXPERIENCE DOWN THERE AS MAYBE IF NOT THE LONE BLACK LAWMAKER, CERTAINLY ONE OF THE VERY FEW.

>> IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE AND TALK TO PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE THE SAME PEOPLE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU DO WITH PEOPLE ACROSS THE AISLE AND HOW YOU WORK TOGETHER TO GET THINGS DONE, FORTUNATELY, AT THE TIME I WAS THERE IT WAS CLOSE RATIO OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS.

AND AS HAS BEEN HAPPENING LATELY THERE WERE A LOT OF CHANGES GOING ON.

BUT WHAT I LEARNED THAT REALLY HELPS ME OUR NOW AS A BUSINESSMAN NOW.

>> REPRESENTATIVE BOLDING, MENTORS, DO YOU LOOK BACK AND SAY THEY PERSON--YOU MAY NOT HAVE REALIZED IT AT THE TIME.

BUT NOW YOU LOOK BACK AND THIS PERSON REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN MY LIFE.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY HAS INSPIREED ME JUST FROM DAY ONE IS THAT I HAD A MENTOR BACK IN OHIO.

HIS NAME IS DANE JOHNSON, AND HE WAS AN ATTORNEY, AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN ATTORNEY WHO STARTED A PROGRAM CALLED SUMMER WORKING EXPERIENCE IN LAW.

THE GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE AFRICAN-AMERICAN STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERN AT TOP LAW FIRMS IN CINCINNATI.

UP TO THAT POINT I WANTED TO BE A LAWYER.

AND I HAD NEVER SEEN LAWYERS OUTSIDE OF TV.

I WATCHED SHOWS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ACCESS TO SOMEONE OR SOMETHING, HOW DO YOU PAY THIS FORWARD.

LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY THAT HE GAVE, PROVIDING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO WORK AT A MAJOR LAW FIRM, AND CONNECT WITH MAJOR COMPANIES AS A COLLEGE STUDENT REALLY OPENED MY EYES LATER ON.

I LEFT MY COLLEGE EXPERIENCE AND WHENEVER I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE, I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO IT.

OTHERWISE WE'RE NOT LIFTING EACH OTHER UP, AND WE CAN'T EXPECT ANYBODY ELSE TO DO IT FOR US.

>> CLOVES, YOUR FATHER WAS A MENTOR.

ANYONE ELSE YOU LOOK BACK ON NOW AND SAY THIS PERSON MADE A BIG IMPACT ON MY LIFE.

>> IT'S TOUGH TO SAY NOW BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE IN SOUTH PHOENIX IT WAS A REALLY FAMILY-ORIENTED COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE LIKE TRAVIS WILLIAMS WHO, OF COURSE, VIRGIL BARRY SR. AND THOSE WHO HELPED US OPEN OUR EYES OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN I LOOK AT THOSE KINDS OF FOLKS.

ONE PERSON THAT REALLY STUCK IN MY MIND IS THE TEACHER THAT I HAD AT MRS. --I WAS IN A PARTICULARLY GOOD SITUATION.

BECAUSE MY FATHER WAS AN INFLUENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CARRY THAT ON.

>> IT'S BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WE'RE GETTING TO KNOW YOU BETTER, AND THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION.

CLOVES, WE'LL BEGIN WITH YOU.

BEING A PLAQUE MAN IN ARIZONA, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU?

>> WELL, THAT'S A HEAVY CHOICE.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT BEING BLACK IN ARIZONA, MOST PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF ARIZONA DON'T THINK THAT THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE HERE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE A BLACK PERSON AND TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF INFLUENCE IN A STATE THAT IS REALLY LOOKED UPON AS A NON-BLACK COMMUNITY, IT'S REALLY A BIG DEAL.

I THINK BEING BLACK IN ARIZONA MEANS IN OUR POSITIONS WE HAVE TO CARRY OURSELVES IN A CERTAIN WAY.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SHARE THAT OUR COMMUNITIES UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ASSIST OUR COMMUNITIES WITH WHAT THEY NEED, AND WE HAVE TO TEACH BLACK HISTORY NOT JUST IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY BUT EVERY MONTH THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR.

>> AND REPRESENTATIVE BOLDING, WE'LL END WITH YOU.

BLACK MAN IN ARIZONA.

WHAT DOES AT A MEAN TO YOU?

>> IT MEANS EVERYTHING TO ME.

THE FACT THAT BLACK MEN NOT ONLY IN ARIZONA BUT IN THIS COUNTRY, THERE ARE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT WE'RE COMPETING WITH, NOT ONLY PERCEPTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE TOWARDS BLACK MEN, BUT ALSO THE THE--US MAKING SURE THAT WE WANT SO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR OUR FAMILIES AND THOSE PEOPLE WE COME IN CONTACT WITH.

I THINK FOR ME THERE IS A LOT OF PRIDE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE'VE SEEN SO MANY CONTRIBUTIONS HAPPEN THROUGH BLACK MEN AND WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY, AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND THE GREAT WORK THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

I LOOK AT SOMEBODY LIKE CLOVES CAMPBELL, WHO IS A PUBLISHER OF A NEWSPAPER, AND CONTINUES TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES AND CONTINUES A LEGACY THAT HIS FATHER HAS STARTED, THAT'S HUGE.

MY HOPE IS TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT FOR THOSE WHO COME BEHIND ME.

>> STATE REPRESENTATIVE REGINALD BOLDING AND CLOVES CAMPBELL JR.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS AND YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

COMING UP IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS.

THE PUSH TO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS AND WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE HERE IN ARIZONA.

AND ON BREAK IT DOWN, THE LACK OF WOMEN OF COLOR IN CORPORATE AMERICA.