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TED: COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS, ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE.

A LOOK AT THE TOP STORIES INCLUDING TODAY'S COURT RULING AS THE PROP 208 TAX ON WAGE EARNERS VIOLATES THE CONSTITUTION.

>>> ANDLL AHEAD ON ARIZONA PBS.

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TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON," I'M TED SIMONS.

IT'S FRIDAY AND THAT MEANS IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE.

AND JOINING US TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE WEEK'S TOP STORIES, JIM SMALL OF THE "ARIZONA MIRROR," LAURIE ROBERTS OF "THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC" AND STEVE GOLDSTEIN OF KJZZ RADIO.

PANEL, GOOD TO HAVE YOU ALL HERE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

JIM, START WITH YOU.

JUST HAPPEN A FEW HOURS AGO, A JUDGE, NOT A SURPRISE THAT PROP 208 WAS FOUND KAPUT.

>> NOT A SURPRISE.

LAST SUMMER THE ARIZONA SUPREME COURT RULED ESSENTIALLY THAT THE TAX INCREASE VOTERS APPROVED IN 2020 ON WEALTHY ARIZONANS TO FUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS IT WAS LIKELY UNCONSTITUTIONAL, THAT WOULD VIOLATE, APPEAR IT WOULD VIOLATE ANOTHER CONSTITUTIONAL LIMIT ON SCHOOL SPENDING, AND THEY BASICALLY SENT THE CASE BACK TO TRIAL COURT AND THE TRIAL COURT JUDGE ISSUED A RULING AFTER HOLDING A TRIAL EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND HE ESSENTIALLY SAID, LOOK, THE SUPREME COURT SAID THIS TO ME.

THEY CLEARLY HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THEY WANTED FOR A RULING.

HERE'S THE RULING, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU BUT ALSO I DON'T LIKE THE RULING AND HERE'S THE REASONS I DON'T LIKE IT AND THE WAYS I THINK IT SHOULD BE CHALLENGED AT THE SUPREME COURT, AND THE ARGUMENTS I WOULD MAKE IF I WAS THE PUBLIC SCHOOL ADVOCATE TAKING THIS SUPREME COURT ON APPEAL.

>> REPUBLICAN RESPONSE WAS CELEBRATION?

>> JUBILATION, IMMEDIATE AND STRONG, AND ALMOST AS IF THEY FORGOT THAT 51, ALMOST 52% OF ARIZONA VOTERS DID PASS THIS, AND SO THERE THEY ARE CHEERING ON THE FACT THEY WERE ABLE TO THWART THE WILL OF THE VOTERS.

IT WAS SURPRISING, I EXPECTED A MUTED RESPONSE, THIS WAS AN EXPECTED THING, HARDLY THAT ANYONE WAS SURPRISED ABOUT AND YET THEIR REACTION WAS AS UNMUTED AS YOU COULD GET, THEY WERE ABSOLUTELY THRILLED.

TED: STEVE, THE TRIAL COURT, THE JUDGE SOMEWHAT RELUCTANTLY SAYING I GOT TO DO WHAT I GOT TO DO AND THIS IS WHAT I GOT TO DO.

>> INTERESTING WAS THE JUXTAPOSITION OF POLITICS VERSUS THE LETTER OF THE LAW, WHICH IS THE MOST FASCINATING PART OF THIS, THE DIFFERENT CITATIONS HE MADE.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S NEXT?

WITH THE BUDGET SURPLUS AND SENATE PRESIDENT FANN SAYING THIS GIVES A CHANCE TO DO GREAT THINGS WITH THE BUDGET, ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT?

TED: ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT?

THEY HAVE THE ONE-TIME CHANGE OF AGGREGATE SPENDING LIMIT, WHAT'S THE POINT OF THE INCREASED EDUCATION FUNDING IF IT KEEPS GOING OVER A CAP AND NOT ALLOWED.

>> GIVES US TO THE DEBATE WE'RE HAVING IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THIS LIMIT EXISTS, PASSED BY VOTERS IN 1980, DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE 1980 EDUCATIONAL COSTS.

WE DON'T LIVE IN 1980, WE HAVE A MUCH DIFFERENT EDUCATIONAL .

>> LAURIE SAID JUBILATION AMONG REPUBLICAN GROUPS AND LAWMAKERS.

INTERESTING EVERY TWO YEARS WEEK DO THIS, WHAT IS THE CHAMBER GOING TO DO?

THIS IS A GREAT RULING.

IN THE PAST, IT WAS MAIN STREET VERSUS WALL STREET REPUBLICANS, SEE THE CHAMBER TAKE HOLD AND SAY WE NEED TO INCREASE EDUCATION FUNDING, MAYBE WE CAN SNEAK IT AROUND BUT THE MAKEUP OF THE LEGISLATURE IS NOT QUITE AS FRIENDLY AS THE CHAMBER.

TED: BUSINESSES ARE CONSTANTLY SAYING WE NEED BETTER TRAINED WORKERS, WE NEED PEOPLE BETTER EDUCATED, HIGH TECH, ALL THIS BUSINESS AND RANK AT OR NEAR THE BOTTOM OF SCHOOL SPENDING, AT OR NEAR THE BOTTOM OF TEACHER SALARIES.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

A COALITION OF BUSINESS GROUPS OVER THE 20 YEARS I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS AND CERTAINLY FOR LONGER.

WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE OVERHAUL OF SCHOOL FINANCE SYSTEM, BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE EQUITABLE WHEN IT WAS MADE IN 1980.

NO LONGER EQUITABLE AND THERE ARE GAPS, HOLES, HAVES AND HAVENOTS, AND WE NEED TO REDO THIS.

NONE OF THE EFFORTS HAVE GOTTEN PURCHASE.

WITH ALL THE TALK, WHETHER IT'S THE CHAMBER, THE ARIZONA BUSINESS EDUCATION COALITION OR THE VARIOUS PUBLIC POLICY GROUPS THAT ARE CENTERED ON THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THEY'VE BEEN UNABLE TO GET ANYTHING TOGETHER, TO GET AN AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING OR TO DO MUCH MORE THAN PAY LIP SERVICE IN A LOT OF CASES TO WE NEED TO GET BETTER.

WE'RE GOING TO CREATE ALL THE GOALS AND MISS THEM AND PRETEND WE NEVER MADE THE GOALS AND FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.

>> REMEMBER, THIS IS NOT 2018 OR WHATEVER YEAR IT WAS IT WAS RED FOR ED.

THIS IS NOT A TIME WHEN EVERYBODY WANTS TO SAY I'M YOUR EDUCATION LEGISLATOR, THE EDUCATION GOVERNOR.

THESE ARE THE DAYS WE HAVE A WAR ON PUBLIC ED, A WAR ON THE TEACHER'S UNION, IT'S THE SAME THING, IT AFFECTS CHILDREN.

SO I SEE NO UPSIDE TO THEM THIS YEAR IN AN ELECTION YEAR TO ALLOCATING A BUNCH OF NEW MONEY TO SCHOOLS.

MORE LIKELY THEY WOULD LIKE TO STARVE THE SCHOOLS MORE IN ORDER TO BRING THEM AROUND AND SAY WE'RE BEING TOUGH ON THESE SCHOOLS AS PART OF THE CULTURE WARS.

>> STEVE, SOMETHING HAPPENED THIS WEEK.

EXPLAIN THIS, PLEASE.

PRECINCT COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE SELECTED IN A CERTAIN WAY.

A LAW WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE THAT CHANGES THAT SELECTION PROCESS, THERE'S A PROBLEM HERE, THOUGH, AND THAT IS THE LEGISLATORS THAT VOTED FOR THE LAW HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS IN THE BILL.

>> THERE ARE SO MANY ANGLES TO TAKE HERE, TED.

ONE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTENING OR WATCHING DON'T KNOW WHAT PRECINCT COMMITTEE PEOPLE ARE, THEY HAVE A LOT TO DETERMINE THE DIRECTION OF THE PARTY OR PRECINCT OR DISTRICT.

THIS IS A CASE BECAUSE OF REDISTRICTING, WE SAW CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE WITH THE NOMINATING SIGNATURES FOR PETITIONS PEOPLE NEEDED TO GET, AND THIS IS A SHOCK, APPARENTLY THE LEGISLATURE IS LIKE CONGRESS, THEY PASS THINGS WITHOUT READING THEM AND THERE IS BACKLASH AGAINST STAFFERS.

A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON TO START.

>> HAS THIS BEEN RESOLVED YET?

>> NO HASN'T BEEN RESOLVED.

THIS IS A BIG DEAL AT THE CAPITAL, NOT A BIG DEAL IN THE REAL WORL, RIGHT?

VERY FEW PEOPLE WATCHING THIS PROGRAM ARE GOING TO BE UP IN ARMS ABOUT THIS.

AT THE CAPITOL, FOR THE POLITICAL CREATURES, THIS IS A MASSIVE DEAL.

IT HAS GROUND THINGS TO A HALT AT THE CAPITOL BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU HAVE ARE REPUBLICANS ARE FAR MORE ACTIVE IN THE PC ELECTIONS, ELECTED FOOT SOLDIERS FOR THE PARTY, AND REPUBLICANS ARE FAR MORE ACTIVE IN THAT ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL BE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PARTIES STRUCTURED.

WHEN THEY GOT RID OF THE ELECTIONS IN 2022 AND SAID THE COUNTIES APPOINT THESE PEOPLE, THESE FOLKS WHO ARE ELECTED AND LASHED OUT IN ANGER IN ABSOLUTE PALPABLE RAGE AT THEIR STATE LEGISLATORS, ALL OF WHOM BASICALLY SAID I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS IN THE BILL.

I DIDN'T READ THE SUMMARY EITHER BECAUSE IT WAS APPARENTLY IN THE SUMMARY OF THE BILL ALSO, AND THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS ARE RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO UNDO THIS THING WE DID WITH THE HELP OF DEMOCRATS WHILE ALL OF THE HYPERPARTISAN FOOT SOLDIERS ARE AT THE CAPITOL BERATING THEM AND ACCUSING THEM OF A GREEN CONSPIRACY.

TED: LAURIE, WITH THE HELP OF DEMOCRATS IS THE OPERATIONAL PHRASE, DEMOCRATS ARE PROBABLY SAYING WELL, LET'S DO HORSE TRADING.

>> CERTAINLY SHOULD BE DOING THAT.

IF THEY'RE NOT, I WOULD ACCUSE THEM OF POLITICAL MALPRACTICE.

THEY HAVE BEEN IGNORED FOR YEARS, NOT INVITED TO THE TABLE ON ANYTHING, EVEN ON THE LEGISLATURE THAT HAS THE ONE VOTE MAJORITY FOR REPUBLICANS ON BOTH SIDES, BECAUSE THIS LAW PASSED IN EMERGENCY CAPACITY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TWO-THIRDS VOTE, YOU HAD THAT WITH THE DEMOCRATS AND FAIR TO POINT OUT, DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR THE SALE SO IT DIDN'T READ THIS WORK, THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE ISSUE.

NOW IN ORDER TO UNDO, IT YOU HAVE TO HAVE HELP FROM THE DEMOCRATS, AND THE DEMOCRATS COMMITTEE MEN AREN'T EXERCISED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ABOUT THIS.

THEY'RE SITTING BACK GOING, WHAT CAN WE GET?

THEY SHOULD BE DOING THAT.

>> THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SIGNATURES TURNED IN, IN ORDER TO GET ON THE BALLOT, TO QUALIFY FOR THE ELECTION AT THE BEGINNING OF APRIL.

YOU ARE REALISTICALLY LOOKING AT A WEEK OR TWO REALLY THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE TO FIX THE PROBLEM AND GET DEMOCRATS ON BOARD.

IF THERE IS HORSE TRADING, I THINK WE'LL SEE IT COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

>> SIMPLE MAJORITY, IT WILL GO INTO EFFECT, 90 DAYS AFTER THE END OF THE SECTIONS, THEY NEED THE TWO-THIRDS.

IF I MAY JUMP IN FOR A SECOND.

FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT PRECINCT COMMITTEE PEOPLE, DECADES AGO JOHN McCAIN WAS CENSURED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE HIS STAND ON IMMIGRATION, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE HIS COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE.

TED: IT FACINATES ME, IF THIS LEGISLATION GOES THROUGH AND IT'S LIKE IT FUELS ALL OVER AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE.

>> READING IS FUNDAMENTAL, PAL.

WHAT I FOUND PARTICULARLY NOT SURPRISING BUT DISGUSTING, THEY TURNED IT ONTO THE STAFF AND LEGISLATORS STARTED NAMING STAFF MEMBERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS THING.

THERE ARE THREE LESSONS TO LEARN OUT OF THIS.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK, READ THE BILL, NEXT TIME YOU SHOULDN'T BE SO RUDE AND DISMISSIVE OF THE MINORITY PARTY BECAUSE THE DAY MAY COME THAT YOU NEED THEM, AND NUMBER THREE IS QUIT RUSHING THIS STUFF THROUGH.

THE WAY THEY DID THIS BILL TO BEGIN WITH IS INTRODUCED IT IN ONE DAY, AND BY THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK AND SIGNED THERE.

WERE NO HEARINGS, NO ANYTHING, NO TIME TO CONSIDER THIS BILL.

MAYBE YOU STOP WITH THE RUSH JOBS AND ACTUALLY USE THE PROCESS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

TED: STEVE, WE HAVE A RACE COMING UP HERE.

A STATE RACE.

>> GOING TO BE EXCITING.

TED: KELLY TOWNSEND AGAINST WENDY ROGERS, I THINK THIS WILL GAIN SOME ATTENTION.

>> I THINK SO, TOO.

ONE HAS DONALD TRUMP'S SUPPORT, THE OTHER HAD A DOSSIER MADE THAT SHE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ON TWITTER WHERE DONALD TRUMP AND HIS TEAM WAS -- TED: AND ONE WAS RUNNING FOR CONGRESS BUT DECIDED NOT TO RUN FOR CONGRESS BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T GET THE ENDORSEMENT FROM DONALD TRUMP, AND YET, HOLY SMOKES.

>> THE COMPARISON I MADE EARLIER TODAY WHICH MAKES NO SENSE, THINK ABOUT NANCY BARTO RUNNING AGAINST HEATHER BARTOW.

THAT WAS CONSERVATIVE VERSUS MODERATE.

THIS IS TWO DEFINED AS CONSERVATIVES TODAY RUNNING IN THE NEW LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT 7, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WATCHING MAYBE POPCORN, MAYBE A BLOODBATH TO SEE.

MAYBE DEMOCRATS GET AN ADVANTAGE HERE?

NOT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WIN THE SEAT.

IF THEY CAN KNOCK TOWNSEND OR -- TED: ONE'S GOTTA GO.

>> I VIEW THIS AS A CHANCE FOR VOTERS, I THINK IT'S LEGISLATIVE DISTRICT 7, THIS IS THEIR CHANCE TO MAKE A STATEMENT, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM GOVERNOR DUCEY, HE TOLD THE "ARIZONA MIRROR"'S JEREMY DUDA, THE REASON HE SUPPORTED WENDY ROGERS TWO YEARS AGO WITH ALL THE MONEY BECAUSE SHE WAS STILL BETTER THAN A DEMOCRAT.

HERE'S THE CASE VOTERS MAKE A DECISION BETWEEN TWO CANDIDATES WHO ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME ON POLICY ISSUES.

ONLY ONE SUPPORTS, RUNS AROUND AND SUPPORTS WHITE NATIONALISTS AND SAYS THAT SHE'S IN LOVE WITH -- NOT IN LOVE WITH, BUT WE LOVE A WHITE SUPREMACIST WHO IS ALSO ANTI-SEMITIC GUY, AND PUTS OUT HER OWN ANTI-SEMITIC THINGS.

HERE'S THE CHOICE FOR REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN THE DISTRICT, IS SHE STILL BETTER THAN SOMEONE WHO IS JUST LIKE HER POLICYWISE WITHOUT THE ANTI-SEMITISM AND THE WHITE NATIONALISM AND ALL OF IT.

TED: DOES GOVERNOR DUCEY PICK A FAVORITE IN THIS PARTICULAR RACE?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

HE'S NOT GOING TO BE FOCUSED I DON'T THINK ON STATE LEGISLATIVE RACES IN 2022.

HE WILL, AS HIS JOB AS THE REPUBLICAN CHAIR OF THE GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION, WORKING TO ELECT REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS ACROSS THE NATION AND THANKFULLY BE ABLE TO BOW OUT OF THE RACE.

TED: REAL QUICKLY, WHO'S GOING TO WIN?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT IT ON PAPER, I THINK YOU SAY WENDY ROGERS HAS THE ADVANTAGES ON THIS.

SHE RAISED $2.5 MILLION WHICH IS UNHEARD OF FOR LEGISLATIVE CANDIDATES, MORE THAN MOST STATE CANDIDATES RAISED.

KELLY TOWNSEND HAS $13,000.

THE DISTRICT IS LARGELY THE SIMILAR TO THE ONE WENDY ROGERS REPRESENTS RIGHT NOW, MOSTLY RURAL ARIZONA, FLAGSTAFF TO CENTRAL AND EASTERN ARIZONA.

KELLY TOWNSEND'S DISTRICT, A SMALL PORTION TO IT, SHE IS UNKNOWN TO MOST OF THE VOTERS.

THOSE TWO THINGS COMBINE TO GIVE WENDY ROGERS A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE.

TED: LAURIE, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> ON PAPER, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I HAVE MORE FAITH IN REPUBLICAN VOTERS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A HIGH-PROFILE RACE, NOT LIKE KELLY TOWNSEND HAS TO GET HER NAME OUT THERE.

I'M GOING TO GO WITH FAITH IN REPUBLICAN VOTERS THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED OR HAVE SOMEBODY WHO ASSOCIATES WITH WHITE NATIONALISTS AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY KELLY TOWNSEND.

TED: LAURIE IS GOING ON FAITH, STEVE.

>> YEAH, GOD BLESS YOU FOR THAT.

WHAT'S INTERESTING IS GO BACK TO THE PRECINCT COMMITTEE PEOPLE HERE TO HAVE A SEGUE HERE.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DETERMINE THIS, AND THE FOLKS WHO TEND TO GO TOWARD THE MORE PASSIONATE PERSON, IN THIS CASE, WENDY ROGERS, BUT POINT OUT BRIEFLY, TED, VERY UNSCIENTIFIC POLL, I TALKED TO A FEW REPUBLICANS, FEW DEMOCRATS, FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS.

ALL THE REPUBLICANS TO A PERSON ARE SAYING NO, NO, TOWNSEND IS GOING TO WIN, THE DEMOCRATS SAY RODGERS IS GOING TO WIN.

TED: ISN'T THAT INTERESTING?

JIM, A BILL TO POST BALLOT IMAGES ONLINE, TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST ON THE SHOW.

THIS THING ACTUALLY FAILED AND A COUPLE OF REPUBLICANS WERE INVOLVED IN SHOOTING THIS DOWN.

TALK TO US ABOUT IT.

>> FUNDAMENTAL, REPUBLICANS SAID I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE BILL DOES IT, AND BETTER WAYS TO DO IT AND COULD HAVE CRAFTED THE BILL BETTER AND COMPETING WITH OTHER BILLS THAT WOULD DO SIMILAR THINGS.

GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THE RUBBER IS MEETING THE ROAD WITH THE ELECTIONS BILLS.

A LOT OF BILLS THAT WENT THROUGH THE SENATE GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE, KELLY TOWNSEND IS THE CHAIR OF THAT, AND SHE HAS MADE ELECTION BILLS HER PRIORITY FOR THIS YEAR.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF BILLS THAT WENT THROUGH THERE, LOTS AND LOTS, A LOT OF HEADLINES THAT EVERYONE HAS COVERED AND WRITTEN ABOUT.

WHAT PROBLEM IS THIS TRYING TO FIX?

NOW THE BILLS NEED THE 16 VOTES TO GET OUT OF THE SENATE.

THAT'S WHERE THE CHALLENGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN, YOU HAVE ONE OR TWO OR THREE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE WHO LOOK AT THESE, CHIEFLY PAUL BOYER, REPUBLICAN FROM GLENDALE, VERY CLEAR WHAT HE WANTS AND IS NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH, AND CAN YOU GET OVER THE HUMP AND GET TO 16.

15 REPUBLICAN VOTES IS A DEAD BILL.

16 VOTES YOU NEED TO GET THE VOTE ACROSS.

>> SENATOR BOYER TOLD ME HE SUPPORTS THE IDEA OF PUTTING THE BALLOT IMAGES ONLINE.

THERE WERE TWO BILLS, ONE DID NOT HAVE THE LANGUAGE HE WANTED IN IT AND THE ONE HAD THE LANGUAGE HE WANTED THAT GAVE COUNTY OFFICIALS LIABILITY IF SOMEBODY WRITES SOMETHING NASTY, WRITE ON THERE TED SIMONS IS A PEDOPHILE, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUE THEM BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ONLINE, PUBLIC RECORD, YOU CAN WRITE ANYTHING ON A BALLOT.

THEY WANTED THAT LIABILITY.

THAT WAS INCLUDED IN SENATOR BORRELLI'S BILL THAT HAD THE REQUIREMENT THAT AUDITOR GENERAL AUDIT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION EVERY TIME.

A $4 MILLION EXPENSE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO COVER, SOLELY FUND.

IF THEY TOOK THAT OUT OF THE BILL AND JUST A STRAIGHTFORWARD BALLOT IMAGES BILL THAT GAVE THE LIABILITY, I THINK HE WOULD VOTE FOR IT.

>> THE STRAIGHTFORWARD ASPECT WHY I BELIEVE SENATOR BOYER KEEPS SAYING NO TO THESE THINGS.

THEY DON'T OVERLAP, THEY'RE BRUSHING THROUGH THIS, AND MOSTLY HIM, AS WE MENTIONED, SAYING WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?

>> I MENTIONED HEATHER CARTER BEFORE.

HE AND HEATHER CARET WOULD TEAM UP ON KNOCKING CERTAIN THINGS DOWN, OBVIOUSLY PAUL BOYER LIKES DETAILS, LIKES TO GET IN THE WEEDS, NOT EXACTLY MODERATE WHEN IT COMES TO COMMON SENSE BEING CONSIDERED AND SHARPIES WERE BROUGHT UP AGAIN.

THE VARIOUS THINGS WHICH WERE ODD AND TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, TED, SOME PEOPLE THAT LIKED THE IDEAS WERE 2018, PRE, THE SO-CALLED RECOUNT.

SOME OF THESE ARE QUESTIONABLE.

TED: ARE THESE STRIKERS?

THE ONE GIVING ATTORNEY GENERAL MORE INVESTIGATIVE POWER OVER FEDERAL ELECTIONS, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT MAKES SENSE AT ALL BECAUSE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS STATE AND THIS IS FEDERAL.

>> PROBABLY HALFWAY THROUGH THE SESSION, GIVE OR TAKE.

OF COURSE, I EXPECT MOST OF THE BILLS TO COME BACK IN THE STRIKER IN THE PROCESS.

TO STEVE'S POINT, I THINK A LOT OF THIS -- THE APPROACH TO THIS FROM A LOT OF REPUBLICANS IS LET'S COME UP WITH ALL THE IDEAS AND BUILD THEM ALL AGAINST THE WALL AND SEE WHICH ONES WE GET ON STICK.

AND DOING THAT IN PIECEMEAL OR HAPHAZARD SECTION, MAYBE ON THE SAME DAY YOU VOTE ON TWO DIFFERENT BILLS THAT TACKLE THE SAME ISSUE BUT DO IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, THEY ARE GOING TO FIGHT EACH OTHER AND YOU END UP WITH INCONGRUENCE IN THE LAW.

TED: SHOULDN'T LEADERSHIP BE STEPPING IN HERE, THESE THINGS ARE FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND CANCELING -- >> THESE ARE THE SEASON.

HIRED THE CYBER NINJA AUDIT -- TED: THIS IS A NINJA FREE, ZONE, LAURIE, BE CAREFUL.

>> WELL, YOU WOULD HAVE THE HOUSE SPEAKER RUSTY BOWERS, SEEN HIM PUT THE KABASH ON A COUPLE OF BILLS, ONE SIGNED TO 12 COMMITTEES.

IT WAS A RIDICULOUS BILL AND WASN'T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.

PROBABLY GOING TO PAST HAD HE ALLOWED IT TO COME THROUGH OR COME CLOSE TO PASSING AT LEAST.

TED: 30 SECONDS OR LESS, NO LEADERSHIP THERE?

NOTHING TO BE FOUND?

>> LAURIE STATED IT WELL, WHY WOULD WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS FOR SENATE PRESIDENT FANN AFTER ALL THE RIGMAROLE FROM THE CYBER NINJAS, I KNOW IT'S A NINJA FREE ZONE.

TED: WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE.

PANEL, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, GOOD TO HAVE YOU ALL HERE.

APPRECIATE IT.

THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

A REMINDER, NEXT WEEK LOOKING MORE IN-DEPTH ON BASEBALL RETURNING TO THE CACTUS LEAGUE AND PROP 208.

THE JUDGE SAYING THAT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

WE'LL GO DEEPER ON THOSE TOPICS AND A WHOLE LOT MORE NEXT WEEK.

SEE YOU THEN.

YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

COMING UP LATER ON ARIZONA PBS O"BREAK IT DOWN," THE GLASS CLIFT AND IMPACT ON WOMEN OF COLOR.