[♪ THEME MUSIC ♪] >>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA PBS, ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," REACTION TO LAST WEEK'S COURT DECISION TO TOSS PROP 208, THE EDUCATION TAX ON HIGH WAGE EARNERS -- NOW COUNTS ON THE HOMELESS POPULATION.

AND LEADERS ARE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. TO TALK ABOUT THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.

AND ON BREAK IT DOWN, WHY SO MANY WOMEN LEFT CORPORATE AMERICA LAST YEAR.

THAT'S ALL AHEAD ON ARIZONA PBS.

>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY TODAY SAID THAT IT WAS, QUOTE, UNACCEPTABLE THAT THE MARICOPA COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAD TO DROP CASES DUE TO A FAILURE TO PROSECUTED THE CASES BEFORE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS RAN OUT.

THIS CAME AFTER COUNTY ATTORNEY ALLISTER ADEL SAID SHE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO RUN ALL OF THESE CASES UNDER HER AUTHORITY.

THE GOVERNOR SAID THAT ADEL'S OFFICE, NEEDS TO, QUOTE, TURN ITSELF AROUND.

>>> PFIZER IS EXPECTED TO REQUEST AUTHORIZATION THIS WEEK FOR AN ADDITIONAL BOOSTER SHOT FOR SENIORS.

THE FDA AND CDC WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.

PFIZER'S CEO SAYS HE THINKS PROTECTION WITH THREE SHOTS IS GOOD FOR HOSPITALIZATIONS AND DEATHS.

>>> RUSSIAN MISSILE STRIKES HIT A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN KYIV TODAY.

AT LEAST THREE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WERE HIT.

IT IS REPORTED TO BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ATTACK ON KYIV IN RECENT DAYS, AND IT SIGNATURES THAT RUSSIA'S FAILURE TO CAPTURE MAJOR CITIES IS LEADING TO ATTACKS ON SCHOOLS, AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

>>> A NEW REPORT NOTED A MARKED INCREASE FROM JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF ARRESTS ON THE BORDER.

>>> AND SCIENCE NEWS, RESEARCHERS SAY THEY HAVE DISCOVERED GIANT SINKHOLES IN THE ARCTIC OCEAN.

41 SUCH SINKHOLES HAVE BEEN FOUND SO FAR.

RESEARCHERS SAY THAT A FROZEN LAYER OF THE EARTH'S SURFACE SUBMERGED UNDER THE SEABED IS THAWING, AND THAT IS WHAT IS CAUSING THESE SINKHOLES.

>>> THE MARICOPA COUNTY ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS CONDUCTS AN ANNUAL COUNT OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN MARICOPA COUNTY EVERY JANUARY.

THE LATEST RESULT SHOWS ANOTHER INCREASE IN THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

WE LEARNED MORE FROM RYAN BOLCH.

WELCOME RYAN.

WHAT IS THE STREET COUNT?

>> THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS A NATIONAL COUNT THAT IS DONE IN EVERY COMMUNITY ACROSS THE NATION.

SO IT IS A REQUIREMENT, SO EVERY COMMUNITY CONDUCTS THIS ONE-DAY COUNT AND THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS OF THE COUNT.

ONE IS TO COUNT PEOPLE LIVING UNSHELTERED, SO ON THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, IN PARKS, IN ANYPLACE NOT MEANT FOR HUMAN HABITATION, AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER PART OF THE PIT COUNT, AS WE CALL IT, THAT COUNTS EVERYBODY IN SHELTER ON THE SAME DAY, AND THAT IS CALLED THE HOUSING INVENTORY COUNT.

SO WE COLLECT THAT DATA SO WE HAVE A WHOLE PICTURE.

PEOPLE EXPERIENCING UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS AND SHELTERED HOMELESSNESS FOR ONE DAY.

>> AND THIS FOUND, WHAT, 5,000 PEOPLE IN MARICOPA COUNTY.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A RIGHT.

IT IS MORE THAN THE LAST COUNT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH, IT IS.

THE LAST COUNT WAS PERFORMED IN 2020.

SO IT WAS -- THIS COUNT WAS ABOUT 35% INCREASE THIS YEAR, BRINGING US TO 5,000.

>> WAS THAT A SURPRISE?

>> YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T, BECAUSE EACH YEAR OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN SEEING ABOUT AN 18% INCREASE.

>> WHY ARE WE SEEING -- WHY WERE YOU NOT SURPRISED?

>> I'M NOT SURPRISED, BECAUSE OF COURSE I WORK IN THIS FIELD, AND THIS HAS BEEN THE TREND HERE IN MARICOPA COUNTY, AND ACROSS THE NATION, AND IT IS LARGELY BECAUSE -- THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS, BUT THE PRIMARY REASON IS THAT WAGES AREN'T KEEPING UP WITH THE COST OF HOUSING, SO THERE JUST ISN'T ENOUGH HOUSING AT THE WAGES THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING.

THAT IS THE BIG ONE, NOT ENOUGH HOUSING >> AND MINIMUM WAGE HAS GONE UP EXPONENTIAL EXPONENTIALLY, AND YET IT IS STILL NOT ENOUGH.

>> NO IT'S STILL NOT ENOUGH.

YOU NEED TWO OR THREE MINIMUM WAGE JOBS TO KEEP UP.

>> MUNICIPALITIES, HOW ARE THEY HANDLING THIS?

>> THEY ARE ON THE FRONT LINES ALONG WITH ALL OF THEIR SHELTER, AND CARE PROVIDERS, AND FAITH ORGANIZATIONS, AND WE'RE DEEP INTO THIS WORK.

AS -- YOU KNOW, I WORK FOR A MUNICIPALITY, AND WE WATCH THE TRENDS, AND JUST THIS PAST DECEMBER ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES CAME TOGETHER AND DEVELOPED THE PATHWAYS HOME PLAN, AND IT IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE WORKED IN THIS COORDINATED OF A WAY AS A REGION, AND WE HAVE A PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD THAT INCLUDES, ONE, WORKING TOGETHER; TWO, INCREASING ALL KINDS OF HOUSING ASSETS, SO THERE IS ALL TYPES OF HOUSING WE CAN INCREASE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THAT IS GOING TO GET US REALLY FAR.

WE JUST PASSED IT, AND WE'RE ALREADY IMPLEMENTING IT.

>> STILL TOO EARLY TO SEE ANYTHING HAPPENING OUT THERE?

ANY RESULTS?

ANYTHING HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING?

>> WE HAVE REALLY AGGRESSIVE BENCHMARKS, AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES PURCHASING HOTELS FOR SHELTERS, AND THAT MODEL HAS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL.

WE'RE ALREADY SEEING SUCCESS IN THESE NEW METHODS >> BEST PRACTICES SEEN ELSEWHERE BEING DEVELOPED HERE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> AND INCLUDING DOING THE HOMELESS COUNT BY WAY OF AN APP, HUH?

>> YEAH.

IT IS VERY MUCH THE BACKGROUND OF THE COORDINATION PROCESS FOR ACTIVITIES IN THE REGION.

THEY BRING ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND PROVIDERS TOGETHER TO PLAN, SO THEY DEVELOPED THIS APP LOCALLY, AND IT ALLOWED EVERY VOLUNTEER -- THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS COUNT, RIGHT, THAT MADE THIS COUNT HAPPEN.

WE WANT TO THANK THEM SO MUCH.

AND THIS YEAR, THE VOLUNTEERS WERE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD THE APP ON THEIR PHONE.

>> AND HOW CAN SOMEONE VOLUNTEER?

>> SURE, YOU CAN CALL MAG OR CALL THE CITY YOU LIVE IN AND SAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER.

>> SIMPLE AS THAT.

>> SIMPLE AS THAT.

>> WELL, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE >> YEAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>> UP NEXT, A NATIONAL NEWS ANCHOR TALKS ABOUT LESSONS LEARNED WHILE BEING A CARE GIVER TO HIS FATHER.

>>> MSNBC RICHARD LOUI SPENT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AS A CARE GIVER FOR HIS FATHER WITH ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE.

RICHARD, WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

IT'S REALLY GOOD TO BE IN THIS STATE.

>> YEAH.

YOUR STORY IS VERY INSPIRATIONAL.

I WANT TO START WITH YOUR DAD.

GIVE US THE LATEST ON YOUR FATHER?

>> THANKS FOR ASKING, AND MY DAD PASSED AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, AFTER EIGHT YEARS WITH ALZHEIMER'S.

AND IT WAS TWO DAYS AFTER CHRISTMAS, AND MY FATHER WAS A PASTOR, SO I THINK WE WANTED ONE LAST CHRISTMAS WITH THE FAMILY.

ONE OF THE TOUGH THINGS ABOUT THAT IN HIS JOURNEY WITH ALZHEIMER'S WAS THAT I STARTED TO FEEL IN THE LAST YEAR -- BECAUSE HE WASN'T ABLE TO TALK OR WALK OR EAT.

HE HAS A STOMACH TUBE -- WAS WHEN HE WOULD COMMUNICATE WITH ME, WAS HE ASKING ME, HEY, I'M KIND OF DONE.

>> INTERESTING.

>> AND I KIND OF FELT THAT WAY, BECAUSE AS A JOURNALIST, IT IS NOT EASY TO MOVE AROUND A LOT.

AND IT'S NOT EASY TO SAY WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE THE SITUATION, AND I STARTED TO HEAR THAT FROM MY DAD, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

>> YEAH, AND HIS JOURNEY BEGAN IN WHAT, 2014.

YOUR JOURNEY WITH ALZHEIMER'S BEGAN ABOUT THE SAME TIME.

WHEN YOUR DIAGNOSIS WAS MADE, WHAT WENT THROUGH YOUR MIND?

>> MY DAD COMES FROM A FAMILY OF 12 SIBLINGS, AND HIS YOUNGEST SIBLING CAME UP TO ME AT A CELEBRATION, AND SHE SAYS, RICHARD, I THINK YOUR FATHER HAS A PROBLEM.

HE CAN'T REMEMBER HIS SIBLINGS NAME.

>> YEAH.

>> SO THAT BEGAN MY JOURNEY WITH TALKING ABOUT IT, AND AS A CAREGIVER, AND THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD EVER BE DOING.

>> YEAH, NO KIDDING.

WAS IT AN IMMEDIATE DECISION?

WHEN DID YOU REALIZE THAT THAT WAS WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO?

>> IT WAS SUPER SLOW, AND THERE ARE 53 MILLION OF US IN THE U.S. THAT ARE CAREGIVERS.

WE DON'T RAISE OUR HANDS AND SAY I DON'T GET ANY PAY OR TRAINING.

YOU KIND OF FIND YOUR WAYS TOWARDS IT, AND YOU DON'T WANT IT, SO IT WAS A LONG JOURNEY FOR ME.

>> WAS IT A DIFFICULT DECISION?

>> IN TERMS OF CARE GIVING FOR MY FATHER, NO.

IN TERMS OF LIVING THROUGH IT, I THINK IT STILL IS.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

A LOT OF WHAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IS MENTAL HEALTH.

I DO QUESTION WHETHER MY MENTAL HEALTH WAS AT THE BEST IT COULD HAVE BEEN.

I'M OPEN TO THAT, JUST LIKE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PHYSICAL HEALTH, WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR MENTAL WELLNESS, RIGHT?

>> YES.

>> IT'S NOT LIKE YOU ARE RUNNING DOWN THE STREET SCREAMING AT THE SKY.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS.

>> AND YOU WERE STILL WORKING AND WORKING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTRY.

I MEAN, WHAT WERE YOU DOING THE BACK AND FORTH EVERY WEEK?

THE RED EYES.

>> IT WAS LIKE THAT PROVERBIAL YO-YO.

AND I WOULD FLY BACK FROM NEW YORK WHERE I WORK AT "30 ROCK."

AND GET ON THE PLANE ON MONDAY MORNINGS, AND I PROBABLY DID ABOUT 250,000 MILES A YEAR FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS, AND A LOT OF THE TIMES -- YOU KNOW HOW COLD SUBWAYS ARE IN NEW YORK?

>> YES.

>> I'M STANDING THERE WAITING FOR THE E AT ABOUT 3:30 IN THE MORNING BY MYSELF.

THERE I AM BY MYSELF WITH MY ROLLER BAG, AND I HAD A LOT OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT, WHAT AM I DOING?

WHY AM I DOING THIS?

>> WHAT DID YOU TELL YOURSELF?

WHY DID YOU DO THIS?

>> IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK IT'S WHAT I INSTANTLY THOUGHT I SHOULD DO.

I DIDN'T HAVE A CHART OR ANYTHING, BUT I ALSO KNEW MY DAD WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME, BECAUSE HE DID IT FOR ME AS A KID WHEN I WAS GETTING BULLIED -- I WAS SMALL COMPARED TO MOST KIDS.

AND HE SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DEFEND YOURSELF?

AND I SAID DO I HAVE TO FIGHT BACK?

AND HE SAID, DO YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOURSELF?

AND I DIDN'T ANSWER.

AND HE CAME BACK TWO NIGHTS LATER, AND SAID, HAVE YOU MADE A DECISION?

AND I SAID, YES.

AND HIS RESPONSE WAS, GREAT, I KNOW THIS CHINESE MONK THAT CAN TEACH YOU KUNG FU, AND IT DID WORK, AND HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO FIGHT, SO IT WAS TIME FOR ME TO FIGHT FOR HIM.

>> OH, YEAH.

>> HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE I WAS TAKEN CARE OF AND DEFENDED, AND SO IT WAS MY TURN >> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT FATHERS AND SONS ARE FOR, AND YOU OBVIOUSLY LEARNED THAT LESSON.

DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING ELSE?

ANY LESSONS THROUGH ALL OF THIS, ABOUT YOURSELF, YOUR FAMILY, AND BEING A CAREGIVER?

>> IT'S OKAY TO BE WEAK.

IT'S OKAY TO SHOW EMOTION.

A LOT OF MY FRIENDS KNEW IN THE LAST SIX YEARS, WE COULD BE OUT ENJOYING OURSELVES AND I WOULD START CRYING >> YEAH.

>> IN THE BEGINNING IT WAS A LITTLE WEIRD, AND THEN I WAS LIKE, IT'S OKAY.

WE CAN LAUGH TOGETHER AND CRY TOGETHER.

AND TO EXPRESS THE DIFFICULTY OF CARING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, IT WASN'T PERFECT, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF JOY DESPITE DIFFICULTY.

I LAUGHED IN WAYS I NEVER LAUGHED BEFORE.

>> YEAH, IT IS INTERESTING.

YOU HAVE WRITTEN THIS BOOK, UNEXPECTED TO YOU, I WOULD IMAGINE, HUH?

>> VERY UNEXPECTED.

AND IT'S UNEXPECTED THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THE OLD GOLDEN RULES OF HELPING OTHERS.

NOT ONLY IN DAY-TO-DAY, BUT ALSO IN BUSINESS, AND THE THINGS WE DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I SPENT THE YEAR WORKING ON THAT BOOK, REALLY FOCUSING ON THE PRACTICAL WAYS THAT WE DO -- WE CAN MAKE MORE MONEY AND LIVE LONGER IF WE DO IT IN SELFLESS WAYS.

THERE IS AN UNEXPECTED POWER OF SELFLESSNESS.

>> YEAH.

AND LAST QUESTION -- AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

>> OH, MY PLEASURE.

>> DID YOU THINK YOU HAD THIS IN YOU?

>> NO WAY.

NO.

THE BEGINNING OF THE BOOK, AND THEN I ALSO WORKED ON A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT YOUNG AIR GIVERS AGE 11 TO 26, "SKY BLOSSOM," WHICH CAME OUT LAST YEAR.

I NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE A BOOK OF DOCUMENTARY ABOUT THESE TYPES OF TOPICS, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FACT I WAS TAKEN CARE OF MY FATHER OVER THESE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

AND GOING BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED, I THINK MY DAD WAS LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.

>> HE WAS STILL TEACHING YOU LESSONS.

>> YEAH, LIKE TALKING TO HIS FELLOW PASTORS, GOING LOOK WHAT I GOT MY SON TO DO.

>> I'M SORRY FOR THE PASSING OF YOUR FATHER, BUT WONDERFUL STORY, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, TED.

>>> AN INCREASING NUMBER OF BUSINESSES ARE FACING STAFFING SHORTAGES AND ARE TURNING TO GIG WORKERS TO FILL THE GAPS.

WE SPOKE TO WAYNE GUST CARREON TO LEARN MORE.

WAYNE, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

WHAT IS A GIG WORKER?

>> WELL, A GIG WORKER IN THE MODERN DAY TERMS IS SOMEONE THAT WORKS ON THEIR OWN.

THEY ARE AN ENTREPRENEUR.

THEY ARE SITTING AT HOME.

THEY CAN BE ANYWHERE LITERALLY IN THE WORLD, AND THEY DECIDED TO START THEIR OWN BUSINESS.

WITH THE ADVENT OF THE INTERNET, SMARTPHONE, AND ALL OF THESE APPS WE HAVE, IT HAS CREATED A NEW WORLD IN THE GIG WORLD.

>> AND WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN GIG WORKERS?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT WHAT THE INTERNET AND THE SMARTPHONE HAS DONE TO OUR LIVES TODAY.

I MEAN, I WAS WATCHING TV, AND THIS GUY HAD AN APP, AND HE GOES INTO A SECOND-HAND STORE, AND HE SCANS THE BARCODE, AND CHECKS THAT IT IS ON AMAZON FOR $60, AND HE CAN BUY THAT FOR 10, AND AT THE SAME TIME HE CAN POST IT TO HIS AMAZON ACCOUNT.

SO THE REALITY IS, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED SO MUCH, AND IT HAS REALLY ACCELERATED PEOPLE'S THINKING IN WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN THEIR LIVES.

>> WHO ARE THESE FOLKS?

WHO IS RETURNING TO GIG WORK?

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING OUT THERE?

>> YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I'LL BREAK THAT DOWN INTO THREE PARTS.

FIRST LET'S START WITH THE RETIREES.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IS RETIRING AT 65 THESE DAYS WITH GAS $4 A GALLON DOWN THE STREET.

SO IT IS A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF RETIREES THAT CAN TRULY TRAVEL AND DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.

SO THE REST OF THEM ARE HAVING TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME.

GRANDPA IS DOING THE UBER.

THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

SO WE HAVE A BIG RETIREE POPULATION THAT IS USING GIG TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME.

SO LET'S GO TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ADULTS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WHEN MY GRANDPARENTS SETTLED IN ELLIS ISLAND.

THEY GOT A JOB, AND WORKED THERE FOR 30 YEARS.

THE WORLD IS DIFFERENT.

NOW BANK NAMES CHANGE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES, AND TECHNOLOGY IS PHASING OUT SOME JOBS.

SO MANY OF THESE EMPLOYEES ARE LOOKING AT WAYS OF INCREASING THEIR STANDARD OF LIVING AND THEY ARE NOT SEEING IT AT THE WORKPLACE.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IS THE CORONAVIRUS REALLY ACCELERATED THAT.

IN MARCH OF 2020, YOU ARE SITTING AT THE KITCHEN TABLE, LOOKING AT YOUR SPOUSE SAYING HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE A LIVING?

IS OUR EMPLOYER GOING TO CALL US BACK.

AND THEN YOU TAKE ALL OF THE SHOWS ON TV LIKE "SHARK TANK," AND JUST TAKE "STORAGE WARS" FOR EXAMPLE.

YOU GUY ITEMS AT AN AUCTION AND SELL THEM AT A SECOND-HAND STORE OR WHATEVER.

THE YOUNGER GENERATION, WHEN THEY WERE BORN, THE iPHONE WAS AROUND, AND NOW THEY ARE GOING INTO HIGH SCHOOL AND NOW COLLEGE, AND THINKING DO THEY REALLY WANT TO WORK FOR SOMEONE?

AND MANY OF THE COLLEGES ACROSS THE COUNTRY -- IN FACT WE HIRE INTERNS FROM GRAND CANYON UNIVERSITY, AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT STARTING THEIR OWN BUSINESSES, AND APPS AND TECHNOLOGY, AND ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF.

EACH ONE OF THEM IS LOOKING AT THE GIG ECONOMY IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

>> AND I'M CURIOUS AS FAR AS THE CHALLENGES.

HEALTHCARE PLANS, PAID TIME OFF, THESE SORTS OF THINGS, ARE THEY THIS THINK OF THE PAST IN THE GIG ECONOMY?

>> INSURANCE IS PROBABLY THE SINGLE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR GIG WORKERS, BECAUSE THEY ARE SUBSIDIZING HEALTH INSURANCE AND OTHER BENEFITS.

OF COURSE THEY CAN GO ON TO THE EXCHANGE AND ACCESS OBAMACARE, OR THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, BUT THE CHALLENGES ARE, REALLY, DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH SELF DISCIPLINE WITHOUT SOMEONE TELLING THEM TO BE AT WORK AT 8:00?

OKAY.

SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE SELF DISCIPLINE, BUT THERE IS A LOT TO KNOW ABOUT HOW DO I GET A DOMAIN?

HOW DO I OPEN UP A BUSINESS CHECKING ACCOUNT?

DO I RUN MY BUSINESS OFF OF VENMO?

I MEAN THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE CHALLENGES THAT WE MAY NOT THINK TWICE ABOUT GOING TO GO-DADDY AND GETTING OUR OWN DOMAIN.

SO THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE CHALLENGES, BUT THE OFF-SIDE BENEFITS ARE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU TYPICALLY WOULD DO AT WORK.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WAYNE, ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

♪♪ >>> IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS, ON CRONKITE NEWS, A LOOK AT ASU'S NEW BEACH VOLLEYBALL COURT THAT FEATURES A SPECIAL KIND OF SAND, AND ON BREAK IT DOWN, WHY THOUSANDS OF WOMEN LEFT THE WORKFORCE IN 2021.