>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS, A NEW GROUP LOOKS TO DEPOLARIZE POLITICS IN AMERICA.

>> THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE CACTUS LEAGUE AS SPRING TRAINING GETS UNDERWAY, ALL AHEAD IN THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS.

>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

RUSSIA HAS EXTEND WANTED ITS ARREST OF PHOENIX MERCURY STAR BRITTANY GREINER UNTIL MAY 19, THAT MOVE MADE BY A RUSSIAN COURT.

SHE WAS DETAINED AS A MOSCOW AIRPORT IN FEBRUARY FOR ALLEGEDLY BRINGING VAPE CARTRIDGES WITH CANNABIS OIL INTO THE COUNTRY.

THAT COULD CARRY SENTENCE OF 10 YEARS IN PRISON.

THERE IS A STRATEGY OF SAYING LESS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND PUSHING MORE PRIVATELY BEHIND THE SCENES FOR HER RELATION.

THE STATE DEPARTMENT REPORTED AN AMERICAN CITIZEN WAS KILLED IN UKRAINE.

IT HAPPENED IN A NORTHERN UKRAINIAN CITY NEAR THE BORDER WITH BELARUS.

THERE WERE NO FURTHER DETAILS.

RUSSIA CONTINUES TO ATTACK SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS AND RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.

S OFFICIALS ARE INCREASINGLY DESCRIBING RUSSIAS ACTIONS AS WAR CRIMES.

>> YESTERDAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID THAT IN HIS OPINION, WAR CRIMES HAD BEEN COMMITTED IN UKRAINE.

PERSONALLY, I AGREE.

INTENTIONALLY TARGET IN CIVILIANS IS A WAR CRIME.

AFTER ALL THE DESTRUCTION OF THE PAST THREE WEEKS, I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO CONCLUDE THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE DOING OTHERWISE.

>> OTHER NEWS, THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ASSOCIATION RELEASED ITS SPRING OUTLOOK TODAY, THE DROUGHT HITTING ARIZONA AND WESTERN U.S. IS FORECAST TO GET WORSE IN THE COMING MONTHS.

THE AGENCY PREDICTED A PROLONGED PERSISTENT DROUGHT FOR THE SECOND STRAIGHT YEAR WITH EXTREME DROUGHT CONDITIONS HAVING EXPANDED RAPIDLY IN THE WEST IN JUST THE PAST WEEK.

COVID NOTES STARTING APRIL 1, FULLY VACCINATED TRAVELERS TO CANADA WILL NOT NEED A COVID TEST TO ENTER THE COUNTRY.

HEALTH OFFICIALS THERE SAY THE PANDEMIC IS INTERESTING WHAT THEY'RE CALLING A TRANSITIONAL PHASE BUT THAT THE VIRUS WILL BE WITH US A VERY LONG TIME AND IF CASES SPIKE AGAIN, THE TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS WILL RETURN.

>>> MORTGAGE RATES ARE ABOVE FOUR PERSONS FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE MAY OF 2000 YOU KNOW, ACCORDING TO FREDDIE MAC WHICH RECORDS 30 YEAR FIXED RATE AVERAGED 4.16%, UP FROM 3.85 THE WEEK BEFORE.

THE FED RAISED SHORT TERM RATES YESTERDAY.

WHILE THERE'S NOT A DIRECT CORRELATION, FREDDIE MAC SAID IT'S A SIGNAL THAT RIGHTS SHOULD CONTINUE TO MOVE UP OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.

>>> THE RENEW AMERICA MOVEMENT IS A BIPARTISAN EFFORT TO REPORT WHAT THE GROUP SEES AT PRINCIPLE WOULD CANDIDATES WHO PUT THE COUNTRY OVER PARTY, ANNOUNCING MARK KELLY AS A CANDIDATE.

WE SPOKE WITH MILES TAYLOR, WHO IS ALSO KNOWN AS ANONYMOUS.

THE FORMER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL WHO CRITICIZED TRUMP WHILE STILL WORKING AT THE WHITE HOUSE.

MILES TAYLOR, WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, ESPECIALLY MOBILIZING THE CONTAIN AND GOLD WATER REPUBLICANS.

WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?

IT IS BIPARTISAN.

I UNDERSTAND PRINCIPLED CANDIDATES AND THE IDEA BUT WHEN I SEE MOBILIZING THE CAIN AND GOLD WATER REPUBLICANS, WHERE ARE THEY TO BE MOBILIZED ANYMORE?

>> ALL GOOD QUESTIONS.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

THE WHERE ARE THEY IS THE FIRST PART OF THE PROBLEM.

THEY'RE OUT THERE.

YOU TALK TO THEM, I TALK TO THEM, THE PEOPLE WATCHING TAILED TALK TO THEM AT COOKOUTS, DINNER PARTIES AND IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAY I'M TIRED OF CRAZINESS RIGHT NOW, I'M A LIFELONG REPUBLICAN BUT IF I STICK MY HEAD ABOVE WATER AND SAY IT, THE CRAZY SIDE ATTACKS ME SO IT'S BETTER FOR ME TO STAY QUIET.

WE THINK WE CAN DO IS TO SHOW STRENGTH IN NUMBERS TO MOVE ON PAST THE ELECTION DENYING, GIVE THEM AIR COVER TO SPEAK THEIR MIND AND SUPPORT A UNIFYING PERSON, EVEN IF THAT MEANS CROSSING THE WHILE, NOT NECESSARY BIPARTISAN.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REPUBLICANS, PATRIOTIC CONSERVATIVES TEAMING UP WITH UNIFYING DEMOCRATIC TO SAY PUT GOOD GUYS IN OFFICE AND OUST THE EXTREMISTS.

>> FOR THOSE WHO SAY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE PARTY OF TRUMP AND THERE MAY NAT BE AS MANY GOLD WATER AND MCCAIN REPUBLICANS OUT THERE.

>> WE ARE SEEING CRACKS IN THE EDIFICE OF TRUMPISM, 72% OF PRIMARY VOTERS SAID THEY WANTED DONALD TRUMP TO BE THE FUTURE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THAT'S DOWN TO 50%.

HALF OF REPUBLICANS SAY THEY'D RATHER SEE A NEW FACE.

THEY'RE NOT CERTAIN WHO THAT SHOULD BE, BUT THIS IS OPENING AND OPPORTUNITY FOR MODERATES TO COME IN AND PERSUADE REPUBLICAN VOTERS FOR SOMEONE NEW.

>> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO ONCE LOOKED AT DONALD TRUMP AS A COMPLETE JOKE.

>> I THINK IT WAS THE SLOW ATTRITION OF THE PARTY TOWARDS A CONSULT OF PERSONALITY.

WHEN DONALD TRUMP ENTERED THE FIELD IN 2015, HE WAS FAR BEHIND IN THE PACK, BUT SLOWLY, THERE WERE TOO MANY MODERATES IN THE RACE, HE ENDED UP BUILDING A BASE AND TAPPED INTO THE FRUSTRATIONS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH THEIR POLITICAL SYSTEM.

THERE'S ANOTHER STAT I'M GOING TO THROW OUT THERE.

LAST YEAR, 50% OF AMERICANS SAID THEY WERE INDEPENDENTS, THEY'RE NOT DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS.

HALF THE COUNTRY NOW SAYS THEY'RE INDEPENDENTS.

THAT SHOWS FRUSTRATION.

PEOPLE ARE TRUST RATED WITH THE POLITICAL SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHAT TRUMP TAPPED INTO.

HE'S BUILT A CONSULT YOU HAVE PERSONALITY USING INTIMIDATION.

>> MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHY ARE THEY SO LOYAL.

WE SEE THAT IN ARIZONA.

THE MINUTE HE SAYS THE ELECTION IS RIGGED THE MARCHING ORDERS ARE IN AND THESE FOLKS WILL NOT STOP.

>> IT'S IT IS A SALE AS OLD AS TIME.

WHY DO CONSULTS WORK NO BECAUSE OF FEAR, PEOPLE ARE PULLED IN WITH A HOPEFUL MESSAGE AND THEN WHEN THEY REALIZE THEY'VE BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS, THE LEADERSHIP TEAM TURNS ON THEM AND INSTILLS FEAR IN THEM.

WE'VE SEEN THIS NOT JUST AT GRASS TOP LEVEL.

LIZ CHENEY NOW TRAVELS WITH PROTECTION EVERYWHERE SHE GOES BECAUSE SHE'S THREATEN ARE FOOD SPEAKING OUT.

AT THE GRASSROOTS LEVEL, IT'S POLE WORKERS BEING THREATENED IN THEIR HOMES FOR DARING TO BREAK AWAY FROM THE TRIBE.

IT HAPPENS AT ALL LEVELS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> WHEN DID YOU REALIZED YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOLD A BILL OF GOODS?

>> DAY ZERO.

>> REALLY?

>> BEFORE I SET FOOT THAT IN ADMINISTRATION IT WAS CLEAR THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS UNFIT FOR OFFICE BUT LOOK, I'M NOT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, THE COUNTRY MADE ITS DECISION, ELECTED THE MAN PRESIDENT, WE NEEDED AT REPUBLICANS IN WASHINGTON TO GO DO THE BEST WE COULD TO STEADY THE SHIP BUT IT WAS VERY CLEAR TO ALMOST EVERYONE AT DAY ZERO OR DAY ONE THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS GOING TO BE THE TURBULENT COMMANDER IN CHIEF AT BEST AND POTENTIALLY CORRUPT ONE AT WORST.

IT TURNED OUT THROUGH HARD EXPERIENCE TO BE THE LATTER.

>> DO YOU LOOK AT UKRAINE NOW AND SAY WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE IF DONALD TRUMP HAD WON REELECTION?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND HAVING SPENT A DECADE LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR MOST SENSITIVE INTELLIGENCE ABOUT RUSSIA TRYING TO WORK THE THREAT FOR MOSCOW, NO DOUBT IN MY MIND IF DONALD TRUMP HAD HAD A SECOND TERM NOT ONLY WOULD HE HAVE NOT HE POSED THE INVASION HAVE THE UKRAINE, HE WOULD EVER LOOKED THE OTHER WAY AND ALLOWED VLADIMIR PUTIN TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE SAW THAT WITH TRUMP.

HE TOLD US VLADIMIR PUTIN I ALSO OUR FRIEND AT THE SAME MOMENT WE WERE TRYING TO TELL HIM HE IS OUR ENEMY, ACTIVELY MEDDLING IN OUR DEMOCRACY.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAS BEEN INVADED BY PUTIN'S PROPAGANDA AND THAT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT, NOT A POLITICAL CONCERN, A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT.

>> DO YOU THINK THE SITUATION IN UKRAINE, THE WHOLE SITUATION THERE, HE GOT AN IMPEACHMENT OUT OF IT.

DO YOU THINK THAT IS BEING RIGHT FIELD IN HOW UKRAINE IS BATTLING RUSSIA OR ACCOUNTED BETTER BATTLE RUSSIA?

>> TRUMP CERTAINLY TIM WOULD THE FERTILE SOIL FOR PUTIN TO GO INTO UKRAINE.

HE SENT A VERY CLEAR SIGNAL TO MOSCOW AND THAT WAS IF YOU MEDDLE, WHETHER IT'S IN YOUR REGION OR IN THE UNITED STATES, WE WILL NOT PUSH BACK.

HE GAVE VLADIMIR PUTIN AND THE KREMLIN A PERMISSION SLIP TO DO WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

WHY DO I SAY THAT?

BECAUSE AFTER 2016, AFTER THE ELECTION MEDDLING THAT I THINK WAS A DIGITAL 9/11, DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING.

HE DIDN'T WANT TO PUNISH THE RUSSIANS AND HE WAS MAD WHEN WE BROUGHT PROPOSED ALSO TO HIM FOR TRYING TO DETER MOSCOW FROM DOING IT AGAIN.

THAT SENT PUTIN A SIGNAL.

PUTIN SPEAKS ONE LANGUAGE, THE LANGUAGE OF STRENGTH.

WHEN AMERICA DIDN'T HAVE A STRONG RESPONSE, HE GOT THAT SIGNAL YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT CLAD.

>> TRUMP SUPPORTERS AGREE AND CERTAINLY AGREE WITH HIM THAT HE WOULD HAVE TAKEN A STRONGER STANCE AND THIS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK A QUOTE DEAL, EVERYTHING'S A DEAL WITH DONALD TRUMP, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THIS SO THE INVASION WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.

ARE YOU BUYING THAT?

>> I ABSOLUTELY OH DON'T.

IF ANYONE WATCHING BELIEVES THAT, FORGOT ME.

HIS OWN FORMER CHIEF OF STOP JOHN KELLY, HIS OWN FORMER SECURITY ADVISOR JOHN BOLTON, SERVED WITH TRUMP, SAT IN THE SITUATION ROOM WITH US INNOCENCE ACTIVE MEETINGS ABOUT RUSSIA HAVE BOTH SAID NO, PUTIN WOULD NOT SAID I'LL STAND DOWN, TRUMP, ABSOLUTELY TRUMP WOULD EVER LOOKED THE OTHER WAY.

>> AND YET THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT, YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING ANONYMOUS LOY AND OTHERWISE AND FOLKS ARE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE YOU UNLESS THEY HEAR IT FROM HIS MOUTH.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.

WE ARE SEEING A VERY, VERY ALMOST MILITANT GOP BASE, BUT AGAIN, MY FRIENDS CALL ME MR. BRIDE SIDE FOR A REASON.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE SILVER LINING.

WE'RE SEEING THE NUMBER HAVE DISAFFECTED REPUBLICANS GROW.

IT WAS IN THE SCENES LAST YEAR, 18% TO 20% SAYING THEY WERE TIRED OF ALL OF THIS, NOW IT'S 20% TO 30%.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WINNING ELECTIONS HERE, WE DON'T HAVE TO WIN OVER THE MAGA CROWD.

WE JUST NEED TO GIVE AIR COVER TO THE 20% TO 30% OF REPUBLICANS, GET THEM A BAN TOGETHER AND SUPPORT A VIABLE CAN'T DATE.

>> YOU SAID THE NUMBER ONE SECURITY THREAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN TO THIS COUNTRIES DEMOCRACY IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> THE PRO TRUMP REPUBLICAN PARTY.

I THINK THERE IS A CIVIL WAR RIGHT NOW IN THE GOP.

IT'S THE RATIONALS VERSUS THE RADICALS.

THE RATIONAL SIDE IS LOSING THE CIVIL WAR IN THE MOMENT, THE RADICAL SIDE IS WINNING.

THE RATION CAL SIDE IS A GROUP OF REBELS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A MULTI-PARTY DEMOCRACY AND THAT STARTS BY REFORMING THE GOP FROM WITHIN.

>> MILES TAYLOR, GREAT CONVERSATION.

I WISH I HAD MORE TIME,IVE SO MANY MORE THINGS TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROCESS AND GOAL TO GET A BUNCH OF CLEAR THINKING FOLKS TOGETHER AND FIGURING OUT A BETTER PATH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY.

>> THANKS FOREGO HAVING ME, I APPRECIATE IT.

>> UP NEXT, TAX TIPS, AS THE TAX FILING DEADLINE APPROACHES.

SHE.

>>> IT'S TAX SEASON, WE TURN TO AUTHOR OF TAX FREE WEALTH FOR THE LATEST INFORMATION ON FILING TAX RETURNS.

TOM, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANKS FOR JOINING US AND HELPING US.

IT IS THAT TIME OF YEAR AND WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT TAXES AND FILING.

HOW MANY CHANGES THIS GO AROUND?

>> SO MANY CHANGES, I CAN'T EVEN COUNT THAT HIGH.

THIS IS A COMPLICATED TAX FINDING SEASONAL, IF ANYBODY EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IS THE TIME TO GET SOME HELP, THIS MIGHT BE THE YEAR.

>> IS IT CLOSE TO BEING, DOESN'T SOUND CLOSE TO NORMAL BUT ARE WE TURNING TO POST COVID KIND OF SITUATIONS?

>> NEXT YEAR.

>> NEXT YEAR, NOT THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE REALLY WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM COVID, RIGHT?

WE HAVE THE PVP LOANS, EMPLOYEE RETENTION CREDIT, STIMULUS CHECKS, THE CHILD TAX CREDIT AND NOW BE A ARIZONA ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER STATES HAS, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL SMALL BUSINESS TAXES AND SMALL BUSINESS TAX FORMS, SO I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE TOUGHEST YEAR I'VE SEEN.

>> AS FAR AS THOSE STIMULUS CHECKS, THE PPP LOANS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, HOW ARE THEY TREATED.

>> SO STIMULUS CHECKS ARE A TAX CREDIT, SO YOU REALLY GOT A PREPAYMENT OF A TAX CREDIT, SO AS LONG AS WHAT YOU HAVE MATCHES UP WITH WHAT THE I.R.S.

SAYS YOU HAVE, NO PROBLEM.

THAT'S A REALLY EASY ONE.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE WHATEVER THE I.R.S.

SAID YOU HAVE, BECAUSE THEY SENT OUT FORMS, RIGHT, TO SAY HERE'S HOW MUCH WE SEPTEMBER YOU, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ACTUALLY MATCHES AND IF IT DOESN'T, GET ON THE I.R.S.

WEBSITE AND CLEAR THAT UP, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GOING TO GET NOTICES FROM HERE TO ETERNITY FROM THE I.R.S.

>> INTERESTING.

I.R.S.

BENEFITS, WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW WITH THAT?

>> REMEMBER IN 2020, THEIR NON-TAX ONLY UP TO 10,200.

NOT SO FOR 2021, THEY ARE REGULARLY FULLY TAXABLE, MAKE SURE YOU PICK THOSE UP IN INCOME.

>> YOU MENTIONED CHILD CARE CREDITS.

THEY ARE CREDITS, CORRECT?

>> THEY ARE CREDITS.

WE ARE MATCHING TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU SHOW IS WHAT YOU REALLY SHOULD BE GETTING.

A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT ADVANCED PAYMENTS OF THOSE CREDITS FROM JULY THROUGH DECEMBER, AND THAT WAS JUST SIX MONTHS OF ADVANCED PAYMENT, AND IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THEM, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO OWE SOME TAX.

IF YOU DIDN'T GET THEM, THEN YOU GET A TAX CREDIT, SO THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO, BECAUSE IT'S THE MONEY.

>> EARNED INCOME TAX CREDITS, HOW DOES THAT PLAY ZOO ALL THIS?

>> EARNED INCOME TAX CREDITS HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT MUCH.

THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT DIDN'T CHANGE THIS YEAR.

THAT'S REALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE AT A VERY LOW INCOME LEVEL AND IT'S REALLY A REFUNDABLE CREDIT, MEANING THAT YOU GET THE CREDIT EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T PAY ANY TAX, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO BE -- WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE MOST CAREFUL ABOUT WITH THAT IS MAKING SURE YOU ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS.

THERE'S A VERY LONG FORM TO FILL OUT FOR THAT EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FRAUD AND ABUSE IN THIS AREA.

>> INCREASE IN CHARITABLE GIVING DEDUCTIONS.

I THOUGHT I READ THAT, IS THAT TRUE?

>> YOU CAN GIVE UP TO 100% OF YOUR INCOME FOR 2021 JUST LIKE 2020.

NORMALLY IT WOULD BUILDING 60%.

NOT MANY GIVE THAT MUCH OF THEIR INCOME BUT YOU COULD GIVE 100% OF YOUR INCOME AND GET A DEDUCTION FOR THE WHOLE THING.

>> DO INCOME TAX BRACKETS, HAVE THEY CHANGED AT ALL?

>> WELL SURE, BECAUSE TAX BRACKETS CHANGE WITH INFLATION.

THERE'S AN INFLATION ADJUSTMENT.

WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE I THINK ARE GOING TO START GETTING CAUGHT WITH, THOUGH, IS THAT THEIR PAY INCREASES MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE THAN THE INFLATION ADJUSTMENT IN THE INCOME TAX BRACKET, SO YOU CAN GET BRACKET CREEP WHERE YOU ACTUALLY GET TAXED IN A HIGHER BRACKET, BECAUSE YOU GOT A SUBSTANTIAL RAISE.

>> BRACKET CREEP, SOMETHING ELSE TO WORRY ABOUT HEIR.

STANDARD DEDUCTIONS OR ITEMIZING.

I MEAN, WHICH WAY DO YOU GO?

WHICHEVER IS BETTER.

THE GREAT NEWS IS YOU GET TO CHOOSE EVERY YEAR, THE STANDARD DEDUCTION GOES UP EVERY YEAR, JUST A LITTLE BIT, COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS EVERY YEAR, AND BUT IT'S OVER $12,000 PER PERSON, SO IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF ITEMIZED DEDUCTIONS TO GET OVER THAT, IF YOU'RE MARRIED, 24,000 PLUS.

>> THAT MUCH IF YOU'RE MARRIED, HUH?

THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT FOR A YEAR, LAST QUESTION, RETIREMENT PLANS, OBVIOUSLY AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR, IT'S LIKE GO NOW, GO NOW, YOU WENT NOW, WHAT HAPPENS NOW?

>> THEY DID CHANGE THAT.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY CHANGE ADD COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHERE YOU HAVE TO PULL IT OUT FASTER.

YOU HAVE TO -- YOU CAN'T LEAVE IT THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, YOUR HEIRS SO YOU DO HAVE TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO YOUR RETIREMENT PLANS THAN YOU USED TO.

NOT BIG CHANGES, BUT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE OVER 70, YOU HAVE TO START LOOKING AT DO I HAVE TO TAKE DISTRIBUTIONS, WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT THERE, JUST LIKE YOU WOULD IF YOU'RE LIKE I AM, APPROACHING SOCIAL SECURITY AGE, WHEN DO YOU START TAKING IT.

THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING YOU SIT DOWN WITH AN ACCOUNTANT OR FINANCIAL PLAN TORE DISCUSS.

>> THE BASICS, FILE EARLY AND FILE ELECTRICALLY, IF YOU CAN.

>> WELL, CERTAINLY FILE ELECTRICALLY.

IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING A REFUND, FILE EARLY.

IF YOU WANT THE REFUND QUICKLY, MAKE SURE THAT YOU -- THAT WHAT YOU GIVE UP IS YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE I.R.S.

YOUR BANK ACCOUNT IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR REFUND WITH ANY REASONABLE TIME FRAME.

IF YOU FILE AND EXPECT A CHECK BACK, YOU COULD BE LOOKING AT TWO, THREE, FOUR MONTHS BEFORE YOU GET A REFUND.

SO AGAIN, IF YOU'RE GETTING REFUND AND YOU'RE WILLING TO GIVE THE I.R.S.

YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER, THAT'S THE FASTEST WAY TO GET THE REFUND.

>> ALL GOOD INFORMATION.

TOM, ALWAYS A PLEASURE, THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ALWAYS MY PLEASURE.

>>> I'M JUDY WOODRUFF.

TONIGHT, DR. ANTHONY FAUCI DISCUSSES THE GLOBAL RISE IN COVID CASES ATTRIBUTED TO A SUB VARIANT COMING UP AFTER YOUR LOCAL PUBLIC.

>> A YOUNG MAN RESPONDED TO THE EVENTS THAT OF 9/11 BY WANTING TO JOIN THE MARINES BUT WHEN HE TRIED TO SIGN UP HE FOUND THAT HE WAS AN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT, A DREAMER.

TONY THEN DO YOU UNDERSTAND A NEW WAY OF HELPING OTHERS THROUGH THE POLITICAL PROCESS WORKING ON A NUMBER OF CAMPAIGNS MOST NOTABLY FOR RUIN BE GALLEGOS.

HIS STARE IS IN A MUSICAL.

>> TONY AND JASON ROSE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL TREAT.

TONY, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS BASICALLY A MUSICAL THAT I ALSO BASED ON YOUR LIFE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE SITTING THERE IN NEW YORK RIGHT NOW.

WHAT'S GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND?

>> I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL.

I THINK VERY ENERGIZED, VERY HOPEFUL.

THE JOURNEY IS OBVIOUSLY WHAT THE STORY'S ABOUT, BUT I'M VERY, VERY HOPEFUL AND ENERGIZED OUT HERE.

>> QUICKLY AGAIN, WANTED TO ENLIST IN THE MARINES BUT THEN FOUND OUT THAT YOU WEREN'T BORN IN THIS COUNTRY, TRUE?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> YEAH, SO WHAT DID YOU DO WITH THAT INFORMATION?

>> I WAS 17 AT THE TIME, ABOUT TO GRADUATE, I TURNED 18 IN THE SUMMER.

FRIENDS OF MINE WERE JOINING THE MARINES AND I WANTED TO BE PART OF THAT, I BELIEVED IN THAT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IT, I HAD TO CONFRONT MY PARENTS ABOUT DOCUMENTS.

I WAS ALWAYS WORKING WITH MY FATHER, I WORKED CONSTRUCTION FOR MY FATHER FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT TIME AND SO I NEVER NEEDED TO GET OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT AND THAT MOMENT CAME WHERE I WANTED TO BECOME A MAN, I WANTED TO MAKE SOMETHING OF MYSELF AND I BELIEVED WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT THE MARINE CORPS WAS IT FOR ME AND THAT DAY CAME WITH THE RECRUITER AND I WAS DEVASTATED TO BE TOLD TO LEAVE BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT DOCUMENTATION.

I ABSOLUTELY FELT REJECTED AND HURT.

I WAS VERY CONFUSED AND MY -- YOU KNOW THAT DAY WAS VERY TOUGH FOR MY PARENTS BECAUSE THEY HAD TO TELL ME THE TRUTH, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE LEGAL STATUS IN THE COUNTRY.

>> JASON, REAL QUICKLY, THAT'S A STORY IN AND OF ITSELF, HOW DOES THAT BECOME A MUSICAL?

>> WE HAD STARTED DOWN SEVEN YEARS AGO IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PATH WITH THE PHOENIX THEATER COMPANY AND WHAT EVERYONE SAID WAS I THINK WE'RE ON TO SOMETHING IN ARIZONA TELLING A STORY ABOUT IMMIGRATION, AND WE THEN SAID WE WANT TO PIVOT TO A STORY OF A DREAMER AND THE CO AUTHOR, JONATHAN ROSENBERG GOOGLED TONY'S STORY.

THAT'S HOW WE'RE HERE TODAY.

TONY CAME IN FOR A MEETING WITH THE LONGER TIME ARTISTIC DIRECTOR OF THE PHOENIX THEATER AND WITHIN FIVE MINUTES, THAT SMILE AND THAT STORY, WE SAID THIS IS IT.

IT'S AN INCREDIBLE MOMENT FOR ARIZONA ARTS.

>> WHEN YOU LOOK BACK ON THIS, I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

THIS IS YOU.

WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE STAGE, THAT'S YOU, THAT'S YOUR LIFE.

>> IT'S DEFINITELY HARD TO DESCRIBE IT, BUT I DID BELIEVE SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO POSSIBLY INSPIRE ANYBODY WHO WENT THROUGH A HARD TIME REGARDLESS OF THE CHALLENGES IN THEIR LIFE AND FOR ME THE MARINE CORPS WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

WHEN I WAS A CHILD AND BECAME A TEENAGER AND I WASN'T ABLE TO JOIN, BUT LATER IN MY LIFE I WAS ABLE TO JOIN MARINES AND HELP THEM GET ELECTED INTO OFFICE, SO IT'S BEEN AN ABSOLUTE JOURNEY AND THE CORE OF IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE MARINE CORPS AND GENTLEMAN I MET THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WHO HAVE SERVED.

>> AS FAR AS THE WRITING, THE COMPOSING, THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, HOW DID THAT FORM, HOW DID THAT GET TO BE WHERE YOU'RE ON BROADWAY RIGHT NOW?

>> IT STARTED WITH ONE HIRE IN SAN DIEGO AND NOW THERE'S 50-60 PEOPLE WORKING IN NEW YORK CITY, 81 SCRIPTS LATER, $3 MILLION RAISED, AN INCREDIBLE INVESTMENT FROM A GREAT CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION HERE IN PHOENIX WHO GOT US OVER THE TOP AND IS ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN IN NEW YORK CITY.

IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE BAND OF BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO GET TO THIS POINT AND INCLUDING OUR COMPOSER, CAREY RODRIGUEZ FROM AUSTIN, TEXAS, FIRST LATINA IN AN AMERICAN MUSICAL, HEART TO BELIEVE.

IT'S BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL CREW.

>> AS FAR AS THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING AN ARIZONA BASED MUSICAL, HAS NEVER GOTTEN THIS FAR IN NEW YORK, IS THERE A REASON THESE THINGS DON'T GET THAT FAR?

IT SOUNDS LIKE A TOUGH SLOG.

>> IT'S BEYOND A TOUGH SLOG AND VERY RISKY.

EVERY GREET PIECE OF ART WANTS TO GO TO THE PUBLIC AND SEE IF THERE'S RESONANCE.

WHEN WE PUT THIS UP IF THE PHOENIX COMPANY, 10,000 PEOPLE SAW IT IN THREE WEEKS.

THEY BROUGHT TONY'S STORY TO LIFE.

OUR GOAL WAS NEVER JUST PHOENIX.

THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE TO START.

WHERE WE WANT TO BE AND ALWAYS WANTED TO BE WAS NEW YORK CITY AND HERE WE ARE, SHARING A WALL WITH JERSEY BOYS, THE FIRST ARIZONA BORN MUSICAL IN STATE HISTORY TO GO TO THE BROADWAY NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE ONE SEAT SHORT OF A BROADWAY THEATER.

WHEN WE HIT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING NEXT.

>> OFF BROADWAY IS FIRST STOP, BROADWAY IS NEXT.

YOU WENT THROUGH PRESS, GOT ATTENTION THERE, GOT THE SKYPE LINE BEHIND YOU THERE.

I MEAN DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH WHEN YOU SEE THE STORY ON STAGE, YOU HEAR THE SONGS, EVERYTHING, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS, IS THAT YOU, DID THEY GET IT RIGHT?

I THINK THEY DID.

I THINK IT'S A TRUE EXPERIENCE THAT NOT ONLY WAS PAINFUL, BUT DROVE ME IN MY ENTIRE CAREER, WHICH IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY GOING WOULD MY WORK AND APPROACHED ME ABOUT THE STORY, BUT I THINK UNIT MALI I'M ABSOLUTELY -- I FEEL THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE COMMITMENT TO SHOWING OTHERS THAT CHALLENGES IN LIFE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, YOU MIGHT AS WELL CONTINUE RISING AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY MESSAGE TO ANYBODY GOING THROUGH A CHALLENGING TIME WHERE THEY'RE GOING GOT TO TO DO WHAT THEY WANTED.

BEING HERE IN NEW YORK HAS AT LEAST GIVEN ME A LOT OF HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.

>> ALL RIGHT, TONY, CONGRATULATIONS, AND THE BEST OF LUCK HERE AS I MENTIONED, IT'S BROADWAY BOUND.

IT'S GOING TO GET THERE SOONER OR LATER.

JASON, CONGRATULATIONS, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF HARD WORK AND GREAT WORK, GREAT WORK ON YOUR PART AND TONY'S PART, EVERYONE INVOLVED, THE WRITERS, THE BOOK, THE MUSICAL, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS, CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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I'M TED SIMONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.