>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS.

ON ARIZONA HORIZON: TWO STATE LAWMAKERS DEBATE THE MANY ELECTION AND VOTER RIGHTS BILLS IN THE LEGISLATURE.

ON CRONKITE NEWS: CONGRESSIONAL LEGISLATION TO HELP DREAMERS FIND A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FACES AN UPHILL BATTLE IN THE U.S. SENATE.

AND ON BREAK IT DOWN: THE IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC ON ASIAN-AMERICAN DISCRIMINATION.

ALL THIS AND MORE, AHEAD IN THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> THIS HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF FRIENDS OF PBS, THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

ARIZONA CONTINUES TO TREND IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR NEW CASES OF COVID-19.

THE STATE REPORTING JUST 284-NEW CASES TODAY, THAT HELPS GIVE ARIZONA THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE-DECREASE OF CASES IN THE COUNTRY FOR THE PAST WEEK.

ARIZONA'S NUMBER OF COVID-RELATED DEATHS STILL CONCERNING, INCREASED BY 59-TODAY, WHICH PUTS THE STATE'S 7-DAY AVERAGE AT 8TH-HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY.

THE U.S. IS PROJECTED TO REACH 600,000 COVID-RELATED DEATHS BY JULY 1ST.

THAT ESTIMATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON.

THE MODEL ACCOUNTS FOR THE CONTINUED SPREAD OF THE B117 OR U.K.

VARIANT, COUNTERED BY INCREASING VACCINATIONS OVER THE NEXT 90-DAYS.

PRESIDENT BIDEN TODAY ORDERED FLAGS LOWERED TO HALF-STAFF AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND OTHER FEDERAL GROUNDS.

THIS IN THE WAKE OF THE ATLANTA AREA SPA-SHOOTINGS THAT LEFT 8-PEOPLE DEAD, INCLUDING 6-WOMEN OF ASIAN DESCENT.

A 21-YEAR-OLD MAN HAS BEEN CHARGED IN THE SHOOTINGS.

PRESIDENT BIDEN AND VICE-PRESIDENT HARRIS PLAN TO MEET WITH LEADERS OF ATLANTA'S ASIAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY TOMORROW.

ON CAPITOL HILL TODAY, HOUSE DEMOCRATS HELD A CONGRESSIONAL HEARING ON ANTI-ASIAN DISCRIMINATION, THE FIRST SUCH HEARING IN 3-DECADES.

SIX ASIAN-AMERICAN LAWMAKERS, ALL WOMEN, TESTIFIED THAT THE NATION HAD REACHED A CRISIS POINT ON THIS ISSUE.

THE HEARING AT TIMES WAS TENSE AND EMOTIONAL.

>> WHO DECIDES WHAT IS HATE?

WHO DECIDES WHAT IS THE KIND OF SPEECH THAT DESERVES POLICING?

>> YOUR PRESIDENT AND YOUR PARTY AND YOUR COLLEAGUE CAN TALK ABOUT ISSUE WITH ANY OTHER COUNTRY THAT YOU WANT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT BY PUTTING A BULLSEYE ON THE BACK OF ASIAN AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY, ON OUR GRANDPARENTS, ON OUR KIDS.

THIS HEARING WAS TO ADDRESS THE HURT AND PAIN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TO FIND SOLUTIONS AND WE WILL NOT LET YOU TAKE OUR VOICE AWAY FROM US.

>> THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN LATER ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING THAT HE OFFERED, QUOTE, "NO APOLOGIES" FOR WANTING WHAT HE CALLED "MORE JUSTICE AND LESS THOUGHT-POLICING."

ECONOMIC NEWS: 1ST-TIME JOBLESS CLAIMS WERE HIGHER THAN EXPECTED LAST WEEK, 770-THOUSAND AMERICANS FILED FOR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.

ECONOMISTS HOPE THAT MORE PEOPLE GETTING VACCINATED, ALONG WITH WARMER WEATHER, WILL HELP THE ECONOMY MAKE UP SOME OF THE MORE THAN 9.5 MILLION JOBS LOST IN THE LAST 12-MONTHS.

THE PANDEMIC AMONG THE REASONS THAT HOMELESSNESS INCREASED IN THE LAST 12-MONTHS.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH TODAY REPORTED THAT SLIGHTLY FEWER YOUNG PEOPLE WERE ON THE STREETS IN 2020, BUT THAT THE HOMELESS SITUATION FOR VETERANS DID NOT IMPROVE.

THE REPORT SUGGESTS THAT A KEY FACTOR IN ALL HOMELESSNESS IS THE LIMITED AVAILABILITY OF SHELTER SPACE.

THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE'S BEEN MAKING NATIONAL NEWS WITH A SLEW OF BILLS FOCUSED ON ELECTION ISSUES AND VOTER RIGHTS.

REPUBLICANS SAY THE REFORMS ARE NEEDED, DEMOCRATS SAY THAT IT ALL AMOUNTS TO VOTER SUPPRESSION.

THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY WHEN WE SPOKE WITH DEMOCRATIC STATE SENATOR MARTIN QUEZADA AND REPUBLICAN STATE REPRESENTATIVE JOHN KAVANAGH.

>> THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US HERE.

SENATOR, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

IS THERE A VOTER FRAUD ISSUE IN ARIZONA?

>> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

THERE'S BEEN ZERO EVIDENCE OF THAT AND THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO TRY TO FIND THAT VOTER FRAUD.

INFECT, WE HAVEN'T FOUND ANY REALLY SHOWS WHAT THE TRUE MOTIVATIONS ARE BEHIND ALL THESE VOTER EXPRESSION BILLS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD SO FAR.

>> IS THERE VOTER FRAUD IN ARIZONA?

>> THERE IS A SERIOUS PERCEPTION AMONG A LARGE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS AND I'VE SEEN SOME POLLS WHERE UP TO 50% BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE PROBLEMS IN THE LAST ELECTION, NOT NECESSARILY IN ARIZONA, BUT ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY, BUT IT HAS CREATED A LOT OF CONCERN AND MISTRUST AMONG A BIG BULK OF THE POPULATION.

IN TERMS OF ACTUAL FRAUD IN ARIZONA, WELL, AGAIN, THERE IS NO MASSIVE EVIDENCE.

I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT.

IS THERE SOME FRAUD?

I'M SURE THERE IS.

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE YOU CAN HAVE SO MANY VOTING AND SO MANY ABSENTEE BALLOTS MAILED OUT MANY WITH THE ADDRESS WHERE THE PERSON LONG AGO MOVED AND NOT HAVE SOME FRAUD OCCURRING.

>> IF THERE'S NO MASSIVE FRAUD, WIDESPREAD FRAUD, FRAUD THAT WOULD INFLUENCE ELECTIONS OR IMPACT RESULTS, WHY SO MANY BILLS, WHY SUCH EFFORT REGARDING ELECTION ISSUES, VOTE VOTER RIGHTS, WHY THE EFFORT?

>> FIRST OF ALL, IT'S SOMEWHAT OVERSTATED.

BECAUSE WE HAVE ONLY A ONE VOTE MARGIN IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE, MANY MEMBERS OF NOT COMBINING MULTIPLE ASPECTS OF AN ELECTION BILL INTO ONE BILL LIKE AN OMNIBUS BILL WHICH WE WOULD HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE EXTRA REPUBLICANS IN THE CHAMBER.

WE RISK HAVING THE BILL GO DOWN BECAUSE ONE REPUBLICAN DOESN'T LIKE ONE OF THE PROVISIONS, MANY HAVE BEEN CHOPPED UP INTO INDIVIDUAL BILLS.

IN ADDITION, SOME OF THE MORE CONTROVERSIAL BILLS LIKE OVERRIDING ELECTORAL COLLEGE OR ENDING THE EARLY VOTER BALLOT PROCESS TOTALLY, THEY NEVER EVEN GOT COMMITTEE HEARINGS.

THEY WERE ACTUALLY STOPPED BY THE REPUBLICAN-LED LEGISLATURE, SO THERE'S OVERSTATEMENTS HERE.

>> SENATOR, OVERSTATEMENT?

>> NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

GETTING BACK TO THE PERCEPTION OF THE PROBLEM, THAT PERCEPTION IS TRUE.

THERE IS A PERCEPTION OUT THERE AND THAT COULD BE VERY EASILY SOLVED BY THESE REPUBLICAN LEADERS IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE SIMPLY TELLING THE PUBLIC THE ELECTIONS WERE LEGIT AND WITHOUT FRAUD AND THAT WOULD RELIEVE ALL OF THAT PERCEPTION OF POTENTIAL FRAUD, BUT INSTEAD, THESE BILLS ARE BEING PROPOSED, WHICH AGAIN SHOWS THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT AGENDA HERE, AN AGENDA TO PREVENT CERTAIN PEOPLE FROM VOTING OR MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO PREVENT CERTAIN PEOPLE FROM VOTING.

THE FACT THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE BILLS, THAT'S FRANKLY RIDICULOUS.

SIMILAR BILLS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED OVER MANY YEARS AND THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.

THESE ARE THE SAME IDEAS PRESENTED MANY YEARS IN A ROW.

>> REGARDING VOTER SUPPRESSION, THE INTERVIEW YOU GAVE TO CNN, QUANTITY IS IMPORTANT BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF VOTES, AS WELL.

WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT?

>> SURE, THAT INTERVIEW, THERE WERE SEVERAL QUOTES THAT WERE ON DIFFERENT ISSUES.

THE FIRST ISSUE HAD TO DO WITH EARLY BALLOTS GOING OUT TO PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T THERE BEING STOLEN OR FORGED BY OTHERS, AND THAT WAS ONE ISSUE WHERE I SPOKE ABOUT THE DANGERS OF ELECTION FRAUD AND NOT EVERYBODY DESERVES A BALLOT.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO STOLE BALLOTS AND VOTED WITH THEM, NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE FULLY QUALIFIED TO DO BALLOTS.

THE ISSUE OF NOT EVERYBODY AUTOMATICALLY GETTING A BALLOT MAILED TO THEM OR AUTOMATICALLY REGISTERED WAS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ISSUE, AND THAT'S WHERE I SPOKE ABOUT QUALITY AND QUANTITY.

QUITE FRANKLY IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO REGISTER TO VOTE, IS NOT INTERESTED, DOES NOT WANT A BALLOT SENT TO THEM, WE SHOULD RESPECT THAT PERSON AND NOT SHOVE A BALLOT AT THAT PERSON IF THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED.

IF THEY'RE QUALIFIED AND WANT A BALLOT, I WOULD DENY NOBODY A BALLOT.

>> SENATOR, MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

>> NOT AT ALL.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE REPRESENTATIVE KAVANAUGH'S STATEMENT IN CONTEXT WITH THE MULTIPLE OTHER STATEMENTS FROM OTHER REPUBLICAN ELECTED OFFICIALS AND LAWYERS IN FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE SAID THE SAME THING, ALL OF IT IS THE SAME THING.

THEY ARE TRYING TO PREVENT SOME PEOPLE FROM VOTING BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT THEY ARE VOTING AND THAT IS CONSISTENT NOT ONLY HERE IN ARIZONA BUT THROUGHOUT THE NATION WITH THESE EFFORTS.

>> NOT ONLY CAN THE SENATOR REID THE MINDS AND MOTIVES OF OTHERS, HE NOW HAS THE ABILITY TO TAKE THOUSANDS OF REPUBLICANS AND PUT ALL THEIR THOUGHTS INTO A BIG BLENDER, HOMOGENIZE IT AND SPEAK FOR ALL OF US.

THAT'S HOW THIS DISCUSSION CAN ADVANCE LODGEICALLY AND SINCERELY.

>> THE LAWYER THAT TESTIFIED BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES WAS REPRESENTING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, SO THIS IS YOUR LAWYER THAT SAID THAT TO THE SUPREME COURT.

>> ONE OF THE BILLS THAT'S GOING THROUGH WOULD SIMPLY REQUIRE THE COUNTY RECORDERS TO CHECK THE U.S. POST OFFICE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED OUT OF STATE AND CHECK THE VITAL RECORDS FOR DEAD PEOPLE.

MANY DEMOCRATS OPPOSE DOING THAT SO WE DON'T SEND EARLY BALLOTS TO THEM.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO SEND EARLY BALLOTS TO PEOPLE ADDRESSES WHEN THEY'RE DEAD OR LONG AGO MOVED TO PORTLAND?

>> LET'S PUT THAT IN CONTEXT, ANOTHER BILL.

>> LET'S ANSWER THIS QUESTION FIRST, THEN GO TO THE OTHER BILLS.

>> SENATOR, PLEASE, CAN YOU RESPOND TO WHAT THE REPRESENTATIVE SAID?

>> IF YOU CAN REPEAT THAT QUESTION.

>> YEAH.

ONE OF THE BILLS WHICH THE DEMOCRATS OPPOSE WOULD REQUIRE ALL OF THE ELECTIONS PEOPLE TO CHECK VITAL RECORDS AND PULL THE DEAD PEOPLES FROM THE EARLY BALLOT MAIL LIST AND TO ALSO GO TO THE POST OFFICE AND PULL THE NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO CONTACTED THE POST OFFICE AND SAID THEY HAD MOVED OUT OF STATE.

WHY DO DEMOCRATS OR AT LEAST A LOT OF THEM OPPOSE THOSE EASY MEASURES TO STOP UNNECESSARY BALLOTS BEING MAILED OUT.

>> TWO REASONS, ONE THAT IS THIS IS ACTUALLY ALREADY BEING DONE, BUT DEATH ROLLS ARE ALREADY BEING CHECKED BY OUR SECRETARY OF STATE.

THIS IS A PROBLEM ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED AND TWO, IT FURTHERS THIS NARRATIVE THAT THERE ARE DEAD PEOPLE VOTING.

THE REALITY IS THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN.

IT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA OR ANYWHERE.

THIS IS A FALSE NARRATIVE.

>> CHECKING THOSE DATABASES IS VOLUNTARILY, WE MAKE IT MANDATORY.

DEMOCRATS OPPOSE CONSULTING DEAD PEOPLE FROM THE EARLY BALLOT LIST.

>> BELOW ALL OF THIS IS THE IDEA THAT THESE KINDS OF THINGS, WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE KINDS OF DEBATES AND ISSUES BEFORE THE LAST ELECTION.

REPUBLICANS ARE BASICALLY DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY LOST ARIZONA AND DONALD TRUMP LOST THE STATE TO JOE BIDEN.

>> NO, NO.

HE JUST SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

HE SAID ALL OF THESE BILLS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS, SO IT'S NOT ABOUT TRUMP.

I BELIEVE, HE CAN READ MINDS, SO HE KNOWS THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS SO IT CAN'T BE TRUMP, BECAUSE IT PREDATED TRUMP.

IS THAT RIGHT?

>> MR. KAVANAUGH, I CANNOT READ MINDS BUT WHAT I CAN REELED IS THE BILLS YOU'VE INTRODUCED AND AN EFFORT TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT STRATEGY BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THE REALITY IS THAT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY CAN'T WIN ELECTIONS BASED ON THE STRENGTH OF THEIR IDEAS SO THEY ARE TRYING TO LIMIT WHO VOTES USING MR. CALF IN A'S WORDS, THEY WANT TO HAVE QUALITY.

>> SPIRITED DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR TIME.

WE'LL LET YOU GET BACK TO WORK.

>> OK, BYE-BYE.

>> UP NEXT, THE AUTHOR OF A NEW BOOK ON COMMON SENSE SUSTAINABILITY.

>> SHE HAD HER OWN QUALITY SHOW AND HAS BEEN A HIT IN EVERY VENUE THROUGH EVERY DECADE SHE WORKED IN OUR BUSINESS.

>> WETY WHITE.

>> BETTY WHITE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

>> A NEW BOOK CALLED, "SENSE AND SUSTAINABILITY," LOOKS AT ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES THROUGH THE LIFE-JOURNEY OF AUTHOR HITENDRA CHATURVEDI, WHO SAYS, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THAT IT'S TIME TO QUIT TREATING SUSTAINABILITY AS A STAND-ALONE IDEA.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS BOOK.

INTERESTING TITLE, SENSE AND SUSTAINABILITY.

SUSTAINABILITY.

DID HE FINE THAT TERM, PLEASE.

>> SUSTAINABILITY AS I DEFINE IT, HOW DO WE SUSTAIN ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN ON THIS PLANET EARTH THAT WE HAVE BORROWED FROM OUR PAST GENERATIONS IN WHATEVER CONDITION IT IS, AND LEAVE IT FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATION THE SAME AND IF NOT BETTER.

IT IS LIKE ME GOING TO AN AIR B AND B AND RENT IN IT OUT FOR A DAY AND LEAVING THE NEXT DAY.

EITHER I CAN LEAVE IT ALL MESSY OR I CAN HAVE IT CLEANED UP, AND MAKE THE OWNER A NICER PERSON AS HE LETS SOMEBODY ELSE CULL IN.

IN VERY TERM, SENSIBLE TERM, WE DO IT EVERY DAY, WE JUST DON'T DO IT WITH OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.

>> THIS BOOK STARTS WITH THE FOUNDATION I SHOULD SAY IS YOU AS A CHILD GROWING UP IN INDIA.

YOU CALLED YOURSELF THE HUCKLEBERRY 15 OF INDIA, YOU ENJOYED NATURE.

YOU GO BACK AS AN ADULT AND ALL THE THINGS YOU ENJOYED HAD CHANGED A LOT.

TALK TO BUS THAT AND HOW THIS SET YOU OFF ON THIS PATH.

>> SO, I'M NOT GOING TO LIE.

I NEVER CARED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY OR GREEN ENVIRONMENT.

I WAS JUST LIKE ALL OF US, WE WERE GROWING UP AND WE THINK THAT WHATEVER WE HAVE, WE ARE ENTITLED TO IT.

THE MOUNTAINS ARE GIVEN TO US AND WE ARE THERE TO ENJOY IT, AND THE WORD SUSTAINABILITY WAS NOT IN MY DICTIONARY.

AND WHEN I WENT BACK, AND THIS IS WHEN IT SAYS THAT IF IT IS NOT HAPPENING TO ME, THEN IT IS NOT HAPPENING AT ALL, AND I DRANK THE SAME KOOL-AID.

SO I'M A HUGE CULPRIT ALL THE WAY IN MY I WAS IN MY MID 30'S.

WHEN I WENT BACK AND SAW WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO MY BACK YARD, WHICH IS THE HIMALAYAS WHERE I GREW UP, IT WAS DAMAGED.

THERE WERE LAYS POTATO WASTE PACKETS ALL THE WAY TO THE MOUTH OF THE RIVER, THE MOST SACRED RIVER IN THAT COUNTRY, AND THAT'S WHEN THAT WAKE-UP CALL HAPPENED.

AND THAT'S WHEN I REALIZED THAT IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS.

>> WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THIS?

YOU TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS.

YOU'VE GOT MYTHS IN HERE.

IT'S AN INTERESTING READ.

THERE'S A LOT IN HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO COVER EVERYTHING.

WE THINK WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY RECYCLING, BY PARTICIPATING AND BEING CONSUMERS OF THE RIGHT COMPANIES AND TRYING.

ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS?

>> I THINK IN MANY INSTANCES, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A MYTH.

WE END UP THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATH WATER.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT WE ARE SO NICE AND CONTENT AMONG OURSELVES, WE HAVE A BLUE BIN AND A BLACK BIN.

IF WE ARE GOING TO RECYCLE A LOT IN THE BLUE BIN, WE FEEL BETTER.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT STUFF IN THE BLACK BIN, IT IS GOING TO GO INTO THE LANDFILL.

MANY DON'T KNOW THAT SEVEN TO 8% OF WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO BE RECYCLED ENDS UP IN THE LANDFILL AND MANY OF US DON'T REALIZE IT, AND THAT IS A WAKE-UP CALL.

MANY OF US DON'T REALIZE THAT THE PACKAGE IN WHICH WE GET OUR STUFF, FROM AMAZON OR A GRINDER, OH MY GOD, THE PACKAGE IS GOING TO BE CAUSING A LOT OF POLLUTION.

THAT'S NOT IT.

IT IS WHAT'S INSIDE, IMPROPERLY DISPOSING THAT IS 50%, WHILE THE PACKAGING IS ONLY 7% TO 8%, SO THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS THING SIMPLE FOR THE PEOPLE AND THIS ATTEMPT TO MAKE THINGS SIMPLE FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME AND AS A MASK, I CALL IT THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

I AM THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR.

IF WE DON'T MAKE IT SIMPLE, THE REASON I WROTE THIS BOOK, TED, THERE ARE ABOUT 16 OR 17 LOOKS ON SUSTAINABILITY.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THEY'RE BAD, BUT MANY OF THEM PONTIFICATE.

THAT PONTIFF OCCASION DOESN'T RELATE TO THE COMMON MAN.

>> THE PACKAGING ASPECT WAS REALLY INTERESTING WHEN YOU WROTE ABOUT THIS.

YOU'VE GOT THE 5R.S.

REDUCE, REPAIR, RESELL, REUSE AND LASTLY, RECYCLE.

THIS ALL MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE WAY BUSINESS GOES ABOUT THINGS IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.

THIS IS BASICALLY SAVING YOUR STUFF, REUSING IT, SELLING IT, ET CETERA.

HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT WORK IN TODAY'S WORLD?

>> HOW YOU MAKE THAT WORK IS WHAT I CALL IN THE BOOK KILL THE WORD SUSTAINABILITY, OK?

IF YOU REMEMBER, A FEW YEARS AGO, QUALITY WAS SOMETHING THAT WE USED TO TEACH IN OUR SCHOOLS.

TODAY, WE DON'T TEACH QUALITY.

IF YOU SEE A LOT OF THESE ADVERTISEMENTS FROM THE COMPANY, THEY SAY QUALITY IS IN EVERYTHING WE DO.

WE DON'T TEACH QUALITY AND SUPPLY MANAGEMENT ANYMORE.

SIMILARLY, IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, WE HAVE TO INTEGRATE SUSTAINABILITY WITH EVERYTHING WE DO IN A COMPANY.

ONCE YOU DO NOT HAVE A SEPARATE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER IN THE COMPANY, SUSTAINABILITY'S GOING TO WIN, FROM PRODUCT DESIGN TO SUPPLY CHAIN TO BRING IN THE PRODUCT BACK TO REPAIRING AND AND AND REFURBISHING ALL THE WAY TO REUSING IT OR FINDING ALTERNATE USE TO IT.

IF WE START TO ATTACK IT AT EVERY SINGLE, THAT FUNNEL IS GOING TO GET SMALLER AND SMALLER AND SMALLER AND BY THE TIME IT REACHES THE BOTTOM OF THE FUNNEL, THERE WILL NOT BE ENOUGH LEFT TO RECYCLE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A WIN.

>> I GOT TO STOP YOU HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE CUTTING IT SHORT HERE.

ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC?

ARE WE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?

>> I AM VERY OPTIMISTIC AND I'M OPTIMISTIC IN TWO THINGS, ONE IS THE ROLE OF TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO PLAY ANT SECOND IS OUR FUTURE GENERATION IN ALL MY CLASSES, 80% OF MY STUDENTS ARE EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND CIRCUMSTANCE LATTER.

THEY NEED MORE GUIDANCE WHICH THEY ARE HUNGERING FOR AND THAT'S THE REASON I TALK ABOUT EDUCATION IN MY BOOK AS THE KEY PILLAR.

I GIVE A VERY CONTROVERSIAL EXAMPLE OF THE TALIBAN IN THERE, BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL.

AM I OPTIMISTIC?

I'M EXTREMELY OPTIMISTIC.

>> ALL RIGHT.

AND THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

IT'S A GOOD BOOK, A GOOD READ.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS, PROFESSOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH, THE BOOK IS SENSE AND SUSTAINABILITY.

GOOD TALKING WITH YOU.

>> THANK YOU, TED, HAVE A GOOD ONE, BYE-BYE.

>> WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, SUBMIT QUESTIONS COMMENTS AND CONCERNS TO EMAIL.

>> JOY BUS IS A NON-PROFIT DINER THAT PROVIDES MEALS TO HOMEBOUND CANCER PATIENTS.

THE OWNER, JENNIFER CARAWAY, OPENED THE DINER AFTER WINNING THE FOOD-NETWORK TV SHOW, "CHOPPED".

WE TALKED WITH JENNIFER AND LEARNED ABOUT HER NEW COOKBOOK, WHICH FEATURES RECIPES FROM CELEBRATED LOCAL CHEFS.

>> JENNIFER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE COOKBOOK.

LET'S START WITH THE JOY BUS, WHAT IS THAT?

>> THE JOY BUS IS A NOT FOR PROFIT THAT DELIVERS MEALS TO PEOPLE GOING THROUGH CANCER TREATMENT IN THEIR HOMES RIGHT NOW.

>> THESE ARE LOCAL CHEFS PUTTING TOGETHER THIS FOOD THAT CAN BE DELIVERED.

>> YEAH, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL FOOD.

WE GO TO THE FARM EVERY WEEK AND EVERYTHING WE GET IS WHAT WE MAKE THE MEALS WITH.

THEN WE HAVE LOCAL KIDS DECORATE THE BAG, AN AMAZING VOLUNTEER TO COME IN AND DELIVER THE BAGS TO THE PATIENT'S HOME.

IT'S A REAL ORGANIC COMMUNITY EFFORT.

>> IT SOUNDS FANTASTIC.

THIS LED TO THE JOY BUS DINER.

WHERE IS THAT, 32nd AND SHEA?

>> EXACTLY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVEN'T BEEN OPEN THOUGH FOR A YEAR, BUT NORMALLY, WE'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THEN 100% OF THE PROCEEDS FUNDS OUR PROGRAM.

>> YOU PLAN ON REOPENING.

>> FINGERS CROSSED.

>> WE'VE GOT THE BUS, THE DINER, THAT LEADS TO THIS PARTICULAR COOKBOOK.

TELL US ABOUT THIS, HOW DIFFICULT WAS IT TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOGETHER?

>> HOLY COW, IT TOOK THREE YEARS LONGER THAN IT SHOULD.

WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH SO MANY BUSY AMAZING PEOPLE, IT TAKES A LOT TO GET IT IN.

THIS IS IT, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S EDITING DOWN HERE.

IT'S AWESOME.

THERE'S SUCH AWESOME RECIPES IN HERE BY LOCAL CHEFS WHO NOT ONLY SHARE THEIR TIME WITH US, BUT THEIR TALENTS AND THEY HELP PREPARE THE PATIENT MEALS AND SUPPORT US AND RAISE MONEY FOR US.

THIS IS REALLY A COMMUNITY EFFORT.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL.

>> WE MENTIONED THE PANDEMIC, OBVIOUSLY THE DINER CLOSED AS YOU SAID FOR A YEAR.

JUST OVERALL, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, HOW HAS THE PANDEMIC AFFECTED THAT?

>> OH MY GOSH, IT'S BEEN CRUSHING.

I'M SURE IT'S BEEN CRUSHING FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE, BUT IT WAS OUR MAJOR SOURCE OF REVENUE.

WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT THIS YEAR, D-BACKS STEPPED UP AND PAID OUR RENTS FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR.

IT'S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW WE DON'T EXIST WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY AROUND US.

>> YEAH, I NOTICED THAT THE TITLE THE COOKBOOK, MORE THAN A MEAL.

IT IS MORE THAN A MEAL WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, ISN'T IT?

>> IT DEFINITELY IS, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ONLY PROVIDING NUTRITIOUS FOOD, WE'RE PROVIDING EDUCATION, HEALTHY MEALS, A WELL CHECK, LIKE A SHOULDER TO CRY ON.

THERE'S SO MUCH INVOLVED WITH THAT WELL CHECK VISIT, BEYOND THE FOOD.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT JOY BUS, WHOSE JOY?

>> JOY IS THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE HERE.

SHE BECAME ILL WITH OVARIAN CANCER AND PASSED AWAY IN LIKE 2012, EARLY 2012.

IT WAS HER INSPIRATION THAT GAVE ME THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT I'M DOING.

I WAS JUST MAKING LITTLE TREATS FOR HER AND DECIDED THAT WE WOULD EXPAND AND HELP EVERYBODY THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT SHE HAD.

>> WELL OBVIOUSLY, THIS THIS IS JUST A GREAT EFFORT.

CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF THIS AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

I UNDERSTAND, AND I MUST HAVE MISSED WITH EPISODE, BECAUSE WE WATCH THE FOOD NETWORK A LOT, CHOPPED, YOU NOT ONLY WERE A CONTESTANT, YOU WON?

>> YEAH.

IT WAS AN EXPERIENCE.

I'M STOKED THAT I DID IT, I'M STOKED THAT IT'S OVER AND I DON'T WANT TO DO IT AGAIN.

>> HOW DO THEY PUT THAT KIND OF THING TOGETHER?

IT MUST BE VERY INTENSE.

>> OH MY GOSH, IT WAS LIKE 15 HOURS OF THE MOST INTENSE THING I'VE EVER DONE.

IT WAS A COMPLETE TRAIN WRECK, HONESTLY.

YOU DIDN'T MISS MUCH WITH THAT SHOW.

>> I GUESS NOT.

IS THERE A CHANCE THEY'LL INVITE YOU BACK TO TRY TO BEAT BOBBY PLAY?

>> WE'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE EMAILS, BUT I THINK I'D RATHER FOCUS ON OUR MISSION AND PREPARING MEALS FOR PEOPLE IN NEED.

>> YOU'RE CONTINUING TO DO THAT.

I MANAGE THINGS ARE JUST RAMPING UP AS BEST THEY CAN ESPECIALLY DURING THESE TROUBLED TIMES.

>> ODDLY ENOUGH, WE'VE GROWN THROBLE PANDEMIC.

WHEN THE WORLD ENDED LAST YEAR, WE WERE MAKING 50 VISITS AND NOW WE'RE UPWARDS TO 80 WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL DELIVERY DAY.

IT'S GOOD PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE PIVOTING THE BEST WE CAN.

>> THERE'S GOT TO BE A REGARDING EXPERIENCE.

SOME PEOPLE GET INTO THE FOOD BUSINESS FOR FAME OR FOREIGN.

I'M SURE THOSE THINGS WOULD BE WELCOMED BY YOU, BUT THIS HAS TO BE VERY REGARDING.

>> I FEEL LIKE THE LUCKIEST LADY ALIVE.

HOW MANY GET TO WAKE UP AND SEE SOMETHING THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.

>> THE JOY BUS COOKBOOK, MORE THAN A MEAL.

GOOD LUCK WITH THE MEALS AND WITH THE DINER AND HOPE YOU'RE BACK UP AN OPERATIONAL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> THANK YOU.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS: ON CRONKITE NEWS: IT'S "BLACK RESTAURANT WEEK" IN THE VALLEY.

AND ON BREAK IT DOWN: THE IMPACT OF THE PANDEMIC ON ASIAN-AMERICAN DISCRIMINATION.