
03-21-22: Lake Powell, "All of Us" Program, Godfather
Season 2022 Episode 56 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
We discuss Lake Powell's water levels, the "All of us" program and the Godfather film.
The mega-drought hitting Arizona and other western states is causing Lake Powell's water levels to drop to record lows. The lake's ability to produce energy may be affected. "All of us" is a national program to create a diverse database of health information to better address all aspects of health-care to all people. We talked about the cultural impact of the godfather with Kevin Sanders.
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03-21-22: Lake Powell, "All of Us" Program, Godfather
Season 2022 Episode 56 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
The mega-drought hitting Arizona and other western states is causing Lake Powell's water levels to drop to record lows. The lake's ability to produce energy may be affected. "All of us" is a national program to create a diverse database of health information to better address all aspects of health-care to all people. We talked about the cultural impact of the godfather with Kevin Sanders.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR, LAKE POWELL WATER LEVELS HAVE HIT LOWS AND ON CRONKITE NEWS, THEY'RE SHOWING COMMUNITIES HOW TO BEST GROW FOOD.
THAT'S NEXT ON ARIZONA PBS.
THIS HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF PBS, MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION.
THANK YOU.
>> MARICOPA ATTORNEY ALLISTER ADELE ANNOUNCED HER RESIGNATION AND THAT WAS BY THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS OVER HER SOBRIETY AND REPEATED ABSENCES FROM OFFICE ALONG WITH A RECENT REPORT OF 180 MISDEMEANOR CASES THAT HAD TO BE DROPPED.
IN PART, QUOTE, I AM PROUD OF THE MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS DURING MY TENURE AND THANK YOU TO FAMILY, FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE OFFERED SUPPORT AND CLOSED BY SAYING, MY DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO MY SECURITY DOES NOT END HERE.
GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY SAYS ADELE MADE A DIFFICULT, BRAVE AND PERSONAL DECISION AND I RESPECT HER CHOICE AND WISH HER FAMILY THE BEST AND I WANT TO THANK HER FOR HER SERVICE.
THE SUPERVISORS ACCEPTED ADELE'S RESIGNATION AND DECLARED A SPECIAL RESIGNATION.
KETANJI BROWN JACKSON IS THE FIRST BLACK WOMEN TO BE NOMINATED TO THE SUPREME COURT AND IF CONFIRMED, SHE'LL SUCCEED STEPHEN BREYER WHO IS RETIRING.
JACKSON ONCE CLERKED FOR STEPHEN BREYER AND REMEMBERED HER MENTOR IN HER OPENED STATEMENT.
>> JUSTICE BREYER NOT ONLY GAVE ME THE GREATEST JOB ANY YOUNG LAWYER COULD HOPE TO HAVING AND EXEMPLIFIES WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE OF THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF SKILL AND INTEGRITY CIVILITY AND GRACE.
IT IS EXTREMELY HUMBLING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR JUSTICE BREYER'S SEAT AND I KNOW I COULD NEVER FILL HIS SHOES.
BUT IF CONFIRMED, I WOULD HOPE TO CARRY ON HIS SPIRIT.
>> TODAY'S HEARING OFFERED DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS A CHANCE TO FOCUS ON THE HISTORIC NOMINATION IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
>> YOUR NOMINATION IS NOT ABOUT FILLING A TO QUOTA.
IT ABOUT TIME WE HAVE A HIGHLY QUALIFIED, HIGHLY ACCOMPLISHED BLACK WOMAN ON THE SUPREME COURT.
IT'S ABOUT TIME OUR HIGHEST COURT BETTER REFLECTS THE COUNTRY IT SERVES.
IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT BLACK WOMEN AND GIRLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY CAN SEE THEMSELVES WHO LOOK LIKE THEM SITTING ON THE HIGHEST COURT, MAKING DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT THEIR LIVES AND THEY WILL KNOW THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO THE SAME.
>> BUT FOR REPUBLICANS LIKE TEXAS SENATOR TED CRUZ THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AIR GRIEVANCES ON ISSUES INVOLVING THE HIGH COURT.
>> LAW AFTER LAW AFTER LAW THAT THEY CAN'T GET THROUGH THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, THE DEMOCRATS DECIDE IT'S SIMPLER TO CONVINCE FIVE LAWYERS IN BLACK ROBES THAN TO TRY TO CONVINCE 300 MILLION AMERICANS.
THAT IS WHY SUPREME COURT COURT CONFIRMATION HEARINGS HAVE BECOME SO CONTENTIOUS BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT IS ARROGATED A RESPONSIBILITY THE CONSTITUTION DOESN'T GIVE IT, WHICH IS TO MAKE CONTESTED POLICY DECISIONS AND TAKE THEM AWAY FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> SEVERAL OTHER REPUBLICANS SAY THEY WILL BE CLOSELY QUESTIONING JACKSON'S WORK AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER AND IMPACT AS A JUDGE.
CLARENCE THOMAS WAS ADMITTED TO A D.C. AREA HOSPITAL WITH FLU-LIKE SYMPTOMS AND DIAGNOSED WITH AN INFECTION AND WILL BE RELEASED IN A DAY OR TWO.
AND THE U.S.
AMBASSADOR MET WITH RUSSIAN OFFICIALS AND DEMANDED FOR AMERICANS DETAINED IN RUSSIA AND THOSE IN PRETRIAL DETENTION AND MOST NOTABLY BRITTNEY GRINER.
SHE WAS FOUND WITH VAPE CARTRIDGES IN A MOSCOW AIRPORT AND IT'S COMPLETELY UNACTABLE THAT ACCESS HAS BEEN DENIED.
AND THE MEGADROUGHT HITTING ARIZONA IN OTHER WESTERN ARIZONA STATES IS CAUSING LAKE POWELL LEVELS TO DROP TO LOWS.
WE LEARN MORE FROM SARAH PORTER, THE DIRECTOR OF THE KYLE CENTER AT ASU'S MORRISON INSTITUTE.
SARAH PORTER, ALWAYS A PLEASURE AS WE TALK WATER AND TALK ABOUT WATER LEVELS WE CAN DO THAT AND THE SPECIAL CONCERN IS WATER LEVELS AT LAKE POWELL AND WHAT'S THE LATEST ON THAT?
>> LAST WEEK, THE U.S. BUREAU OF RECLAMATION THAT MANAGES THE COLORADO RIVER SYSTEM ANNOUNCED THAT LAKE POWELL'S LEVEL HAD DECLINED TO 35-25, 35,025 FEET AND TRIGGER A PROVISION OF THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN IN 2019 TO TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS TO KEEP LAKE POWELL'S LEVEL FROM DROPPING MORE PRECIPITIOUSLY AND 35 FEET BELOW WHERE IT IS NOW IS THE POINT WHICH, ACCORDING TO EXPERTS, LAKE POWELL CAN'T GENERATE ELECTRICITY.
SO IT'S QUITE CONCERNING AND THE 35-25 WILL ALLOW ENERGY EXPERTS TIME TO COME UP WITH STEPS BEFORE WE GET TO THE CRITICAL POINT.
>> THAT TRIGGER WAS HIT AND THIS WAS BEFORE SNOW MELT, THOUGH, WASN'T IT?
>> IN FACT, THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION PREDICTS SNOW MELT WILL ELEVATE THE LAKE.
THE PROBLEM IS, WE'RE NOT HAVING A GOOD YEAR FOR SNOW IN THE UPPER ROCKIES AND WE'VE LEARNED FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, THE HOT, DRY SUMMERS THAT VARIOUS PARTS OF THE BIG COLORADO BASIN HAVE EXPERIENCED, THEY MEAN THAT LESS SNOW WILL TURN INTO FLOWS IN THE RIVER.
THE GROUND SOAKS UP MORE WATER BECAUSE IT DRIES OUT IN THE SUMMER.
ALSO, THE PATTERNS OF SNOW MELT HAVE CHANGED AND MORE SNOW IS EVAPORATING AWAY.
IT'S REASONABLE TO EXPECT LAKE LEVELS WILL RECOVER BUT WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE WOODS.
>> IF IT GOES BELOW THIS LEVEL, NO HYDROELECTRIC POWER WILL BE GENERATED.
JUST LESS GENERATION OR A GENERATION WITH PROBLEMS ATTACHED?
>> THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION ACTUALLY HAS ADVISED THAT 35 FEET BELOW WHERE THE LAKE IS NOW, IT ISN'T FEASIBLE TO OPERATE THE ELECTRIC GENERATION FACILITIES.
SO NO ELECTRICITY BELOW 34-90.
FOR TECHNICAL REASONS, THAT'S THE OPERATIONAL LIMIT.
>> MY GOODNESS!
HOW MANY PEOPLE AND HOW MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE?
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE AND HOW THIS WILL SHAKE OUT IS A BIT OF A QUESTION, BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF ENERGY, INCLUDING A LOT MORE RENEWABLE ENERGY ONLINE.
AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS IS A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE ELECTRIC GRID CAN DELIVER THE ENERGY FROM OTHER PLACES TO ALL OF THE PLACES IT WILL BE NEEDED.
>> I WOULD IMAGINE THE GRID ITSELF WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
>> IT MAY BE.
WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT LAKE POWELL NOT PRODUCING HYDRO-POWER, THE BIGGER MUNICIPAL UTILITIES HAVE MADE PROVISION FOR THIS.
SO THEY'RE PRETTY WELL COVERED, BUT LOTS AND LOTS OF SMALLER RURAL UTILITIES AND TRIBAL UTILITIES DEPEND HEAVILY ON ENERGY FROM LAKE POWELL.
IT CAN BE 50% OF THE SMALLER, RURAL UTILITIES PORTFOLIO.
SO FOR THEM, FINDING ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES WILL BE CHALLENGING AND VERY LIKELY, THE COST WILL BE HIGHER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HIGHER ENERGY COSTS FOR PEOPLE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT.
>> THAT IS NOT GOOD NEWS AND OBVIOUSLY, LAKE POWELL WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON LAKE MEADE.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THAT?
>> TWO BIG RESERVOIRS AND IT HOLDS THE COLORADO RIVER FOR ARIZONA, CALIFORNIA AND MEXICO AND, AGAIN, IT BECOMES A BIGGER PRESSURE ON THE WHOLE SYSTEM BECAUSE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MANY TIMES BEFORE, MAKE MEADE, IT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING DECLINING LEVELS AND TOOK EMERGENCY STEMS IN DECEMBER TO HELP KEEP THEM UP AND SO IT'S REALLY A SIGNAL THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING HAPPENING, A HOTTER, DRIER FUTURE IS HERE AND NO CHOICE BUT TO ADAPT TO CHANGE.
>> YOU SAID THERE MAY BE NEW TWISTS AND IS THAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OR SOMETHING MORE?
>> THERE'S A POINT AT WHICH -- THERE WAS AN INTERESTING MEETING LAST WEEK HELD BY THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH ON THE COLORADO RIVER, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE FIND THE SEVEN STATES SIGNED THIS A HUNDRED YEARS AGO AND CELEBRATING A SAD ONE HUNDRED YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT -- WE DON'T KNOW HOW LOW LAKE POWELL CAN GO AND STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE WATER DELIVERED OFF LAKE POWELL.
THESE ARE THE DEPUTY SECRETARY DESCRIBED THESE AS OPERATIONAL UNCERTAINTIES AND THE WATER MANAGERS IN THE COLORADO BASIN HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD AT THIS AND WE'LL SEE ADDITIONAL STEMS TO SUPPORT KEEPING BOTH OF THESE RESERVOIRS FUNCTIONAL.
>> WELL, LET'S HOPE SO.
THIS IS SOME ROUGH INFORMATION HERE AND SARAH PORTER AT THE MORRISON INSTITUTE AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, YOU'RE A GO-TO PERSON WITH WATER ISSUE.
THIS IS AN ISSUE AND SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON.
>> IT IS AND I APPRECIATE YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE THAT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THE ENTIRE AMERICAN WEST.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A NEW PROGRAM TO ADDRESS DISPARITIES IN THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM.
>> DR. WATSON, IT SOUNDS LIKE A DATABASE AND THAT'S A BIGGIE HERE.
>> THAT'S A HUGE ONE AND THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
WHAT WE LIKE TO SAY IS JUST LIKE MEDICINE IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE RESEARCH DATA SETS WHERE RESEARCH WILL ASK QUESTIONS THAT UNDERSTAND HOW PRECISION MEDICINE CAN IMPACT PEOPLE AND GIVE US AN ABILITY TO MAKE MEDICATIONS THAT ARE MORE PRECISE AND SCREENINGS AND OTHER MEDICATIONS THAT ARE MORE PRECISE ON MORE NEED.
>> WHAT KIND OF MEDICATION, GENETIC MEDICATION?
>> WE COMPILE INFORMATION FROM THE INDIVIDUAL, FROM OUR MEDICAL PROVIDERS AND THEN THE BIOLOGICAL MARKERS WE HAVE.
>> DR. WATSON, THE LACK OF DIVERSITY, HOW MUCH OF A CONCERN IS THAT RIGHT NOW AND HOW MUCH OF A LACK OF DIVERSITY IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW?
>> HISTORICALLY, CLINICAL TRIALS AND RESEARCH IN GENERAL HAVE USUALLY A LOW PARTICIPATION, A LOW REPRESENTATION OF MINORITIES AND OTHER POPULATIONS UNDERREPRESENTED AND THERE'S MANY REASONS SOME IS HISTORICAL MEDICAL MISTRUST AND ACCESS TO CLINICAL TRIALS AND WE'VE ACHIEVED SOMETHING IN THE RESEARCH DATABASE.
OVER 79.5% ARE UNDER REPRESENTED GROUPS AND BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH AND WE'RE PROUD TO SAY 50% OF THE PARTICIPANTS REFLECT RACIAL MINORITIES AND THE INFORMATION WE HAVE, WE'LL COLLECT GENERAL, RELIABLE INFORMATION AND OUR DATABASE TRULY REFLECTS THE DIVERSITY OF THE NEW ONE.
>> DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING?
>> HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE NATIONAL PICTURE IN ARIZONA.
WE HAD A DIVERSE AND VERY ENGAGED PARTICIPATION WITH ALSO MORE THAN 80% OF INDIVIDUALS BEING MEMBERS OF A BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH GROUP AND MORE THAN A MINORITY, INCLUDING A VERY PORTION OF HISPANICS FROM ARIZONA.
>> DR. MORENO, STICKING WITH YOU, HOW IS THIS INFORMATION AMASSED?
>> SO THIS INFORMATION IS RECRUITED THROUGH THE PARTICIPATION OF INDIVIDUALS AND SO, MEMBERS OF AUDIENCE AND PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE RESEARCH PROGRAM CAN REACH OUT TO OUR ENROLLMENT SITES AND WE HAVE 13 ENROLLMENT SITES RIGHT NOW AND A GOOD PORTION IN PHOENIX AND ALSO IN TUCSON AND IN NOGALIS AND WE'RE LAUNCHING A RECRUITMENT TO BRING ALL TO THE REST OF THE STATE.
>> DR. WATTSON, HOW COOPERATIVE NATIONALLY SPEAKING?
GETTING THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER AND GETTING THEIR STUFF IN THE DATABASE?
>> I'VE BEEN SURPRISED BECAUSE WHAT I LIKE TO SAY IS THAT PEOPLE ARE COOPERATIVE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THE RIGHT WAY AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND MULTIPLE ACADEMIC PARTNERS AND MULTIPLE FAITH-BASED PARTNERS.
WE HAVE OVER 100 PARTNERS AND AS A RESULT OF THE INTENTIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE A POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE.
>> AND IN SPEAKING OF RESULTS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING THIS PLATFORM FOR THEIR RESEARCH?
>> SO A GREAT QUESTION AND RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ABOUT 1100 STUDIES THAT ARE UTILIZING THIS DATABASE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED.
HOWEVER, RECENTLY, ALL OF THE RESEARCH PROGRAMS RELEASED GENOMIC, GENETIC INFORMATION AND THIS IS ABOUT TO LAUNCH ITSELF TO A MUCH LARGER NUMBER OF RESEARCH STUDIES TO BE TAKING PLACE.
>> AGAIN, DR. WATTSON, WE'RE TALKING FROM FINDING HEALTHCARE PATTERNS TO WHAT MAKES PEOPLE SICK AND WHAT GETS PEOPLE WELL AND THIS RUNS THE GAMUT.
>> TODAY, WE HAVE OVER 473,000 PARTICIPANTS AND THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT PEOPLE'S BIOLOGICAL INFORMATION, WAIST CIRCUMFERENCE AND HEIGHT.
WE ASKED SURVEYS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND AS YOU MENTIONED, ACCESS TO THE ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORDS GIVES US AMAZING INFORMATION TO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THE DOTS IN A WAY WE NEVER CONNECT THE DOTS.
WE KNOW D.N.A.
IS IMPORTANT OR WHERE YOU LIVE, YOUR ZIP CODE COULD BE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS YOUR D.N.A.
I LIKE THAT ZNA.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULD PROVIDE GOOD RESULTS AND PROVIDING RESULTS, APPARENTLY.
THANK YOU TO THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH AND VICE PRESIDENT OF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.
GENTLEMEN, GOOD CONVERSATION AND THANK YOU BOTH.
>> I'M JUDY WOODRUTH.
THE CONVERSATION FROM KYIV.
THAT'S ON ARIZONA PBS.
>> ALL THREE FILMS IN THE GODFATHER AND THEY'RE IN 4K AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH KEVIN SANDERS AND THIS IS AT ASU FILM DEPARTMENT.
KEVIN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN AND WE'RE TALKING FILMS WITH YOU AGAIN AND THAT MAKES SENSE, AND 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE GODFATHER AND DOES THE FILM STILL HOLD UP?
>> THEY'RE MAKING A MINISERIES AND YOU HAD "THE SOPRANOS" AND THERE WERE A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS.
>> WHY DOES IT STILL HOLD UP?
>> I THINK THE GODFATHER APPEALS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, FOR IT TO BE THAT BIG, IT HAD TO APPEAL TO A LOT OF GROUPS FOR A LOT OF FAVORITES AND PERSUASIONS AND THE MOVIE SPEAKS TO PEOPLE IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A U.S.
PHENOMENON AND SAME THING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD?
>> I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'M EXPECTING THAT IT WAS.
I MEAN, COPOLA IS REVEERED EVERYWHERE BECAUSE THIS IS A MOVIE ABOUT GENERATIONAL SUCCESSION AND ANY FAMILY OVERCOMING OBSTACLES AND YOU CAN READ THIS AS ENTERTAINMENT OR YOU CAN READ THIS, IF YOU WANT, AS KIND OF THIS CULTURAL CRITIQUE AS AMERICA, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, PEOPLE ARE MESMERIZED BY THE CONTACTORS, THE STORIES AND THE NOSTALGIA IT EVOKES.
THE MOVIE IS INTERESTING.
THE IMPACT ON CINEMA THIS FILM HAD.
>> THIS MOVIE CAME OUT IN 1972 AND IT WAS A PERIOD A YEAR AFTER HOLLYWOOD HAD IT WORST, REALLY, BOX OFF THREE-YEAR PERIOD AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT IN 1971 AND THE PRODUCER AND DIRECTOR WERE ARGUING OVER THE FINAL CUT.
IT BECAME A PHENOMENON AND DEMONSTRATED A SINGLE FILM, IF MARKETED AS AN EVENT, COULD BE A BOX OFFICE SUCCESS.
>> DID IT IN SOME WAY BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU SAID SAVE THE MOVIE INDUSTRY?
>> I THINK IT SHOWED A WAY THERE.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, AN R RATED VIOLENT MOVIE, THAT IS, PERHAPS, CRITIQUES THE AMERICAN DREAM, ISN'T THE STANDARDS OF HOLLYWOOD ENTERTAINMENT, A MOVIE THAT LOOKS IMPORTANT AND IS EXCITING AND THRILLING AND A LOT OF THINGS SHOWS THERE'S A POSSIBLE PATHWAY, YOU TO KNOW, FOR HOLLYWOOD TO GET OUT OF THIS REALLY BOX OFFICE NADEAR AND IT WAS THE MARK FOR AMERICA CINEMA AND THE IMPACT ON POP CULTURE IN GENERAL.
I MEAN, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, MAFIA FILMS AND SOPRANOS BEFORE THE GODFATHER CAME ALONG.
>> THEY MADE GANGSTER MOVIES IN THE '30S, BUT ONLY A FEW TO THAT POINT.
IT WAS NOT RESPECTED ENTERTAINMENT, BUT COPOLA MANAGED WITH GREAT ACTOR AND PARTICULARLY HIMSELF AND THE MUSIC WERE BUT ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ACHIEVE SOMETHING QUITE POETIC AND NOSTALGIC AND GRAND FOR THIS FAMILY THAT PEOPLE COULD CONNECT TO ON MANY LEVEL.
>> I MEAN, DID IT FURTHER GLAMOUR RISE CRIME?
>> THE FILM IN COPOLA'S MIND DID GLAMOUR RISE VIOLENCE AND THAT WAS A PART OF THE APPEAL.
YOU IDENTIFY WITH THESE CHARACTERS WHO ARE KILLING OFF OTHER CHARACTERS WORSE THAN THAT.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, THESE ARE KILLERS AND HE SAID, I DID A MOVIE ABOUT THE MAFIA THAT WAS IN THE BOOK.
IF YOU WANTED ME TO DO THE REAL STORY ABOUT THE MAFIA, THIS ISN'T IT.
WHAT BECAME IT WAS GODFATHER II.
>> I FIND THAT A BETTER FILM IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
YOU CATCH THEM ON TV AND YOU CAN'T LEAVE.
ONCE YOU GET INTO IT, BUT THE GODFATHER II IS EPIC?
>> HE WAS LIKE A HIRED HAPPENED AND THEY WENT TO 30 DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY IS TURNING IT DOWN.
THIS MOVIE IS FULL OF SEX AND VIOLENCE AND I DON'T WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH THIS.
PARTICULARLY, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT ITALIAN GROUPS FOR GLORIFYING THEM AND HE HAD TO PAY BACK MONEY FOR AFTER EXPERIMENTS WITH THIS MOVIE.
HE MADE IT, BUT ONCE THAT MOVIE BECAME A HIT, WE NEED ANOTHER.
HE'S LIKE, YOU WANT ANOTHER?
WELL, I WANT YOU TO GIVE ME MONEY TO MAKE THE CONVERSATION THAT GENE HACKMAN, WONDERFUL FILM AND FINAL CUT ON IT.
AND THAT WAY, HE DIDN'T GLAMOURIZE OR ROMANTICIZE.
>> QUICKLY BEFORE YOU GO, IF THE GODFATHER WERE MADE TODAY, IS IT A NETFLIX THING?
>> THE MAKING OF THE GODFATHER ALMOST AS EXCITING AS ITSELF AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL SEE A PART 4 BUT PEOPLE TO HEAR ABOUT THE BACK-STORY.
>> IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD BUT IN SOME WAYS THE SAME.
>> KEVIN SANDLER, I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS ALL DAY LONG AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
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