>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS ON "ARIZONA HORIZON" - GOVERNOR DUCEY LIFTS ALL COVID RESTRICTIONS FOR ARIZONA BUSINESSES AND PUBLIC EVENTS.

WE'LL HAVE REACTION... ON "CRONKITE NEWS" - EFFORTS BY TRIBAL LEADERS TO SECURE FUNDING FOR WATER PROJECTS AS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PREPARES TO SPEND BIG ON INFRASTRUCTURE... AND ON "BREAK IT DOWN" - THE PARALLELS BETWEEN THE WORKS OF SHAKESPEARE AND CURRENT EVENTS.

ALL THIS AND MORE AHEAD IN THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

GOVERNOR DUCEY TODAY LIFTED ALL COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS ON ALL ARIZONA BUSINESSES.

RESTRICTIONS WERE ALSO LIFTED ON ALL PUBLIC EVENTS IN THE STATE.

THAT MEANS BARS AND RESTAURANTS CAN GO BACK TO REGULAR OPERATIONS, AND IT MEANS THAT EVENTS OF MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE NO LONGER NEED LOCAL GOVERNMENT APPROVAL.

THE GOVERNOR SAID THAT THE MAJOR REASONS FOR THE MOVE INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF VACCINES ADMINISTERED, ALONG WITH 10-WEEKS NOW OF DECLINING COVID-CASES.

THE GOVERNOR ALSO CITED HOSPITALIZATION RATES THAT ARE NOW AS LOW AS THEY'VE BEEN SINCE LATE SEPTEMBER.

REACTION TO THE MOVE INCLUDED THIS STATEMENT FROM PHOENIX MAYOR KATE KALLEGO, WHO SAID IN PART, THAT THE DECISION, QUOTE, THE MAYOR ADDS, QUOTE, TUCSON MAYOR REGINA ROMERO SAID THAT SHE HAD NO INTENTION OF REMOVING THE CITY'S MASK MANDATE.

AND HEALTH SYSTEM ALLIANCE OF ARIZONA, WHICH REPRESENTS HOSPITALS AND HEALTH SYSTEMS ACROSS THE STATE, URGED ARIZONANS TO CONTINUE FOLLOWING CDC GUIDELINES.

THE GROUP'S STATEMENT READS, IN PART, QUOTE: MOST OF THE STATE'S COVID-METRICS ARE TRENDING DOWN, ONLY 138 NEW CASES ON RECORD TODAY, THAT'S AS LOW AS IT'S BEEN IN MONTHS.

ARIZONA'S 7-DAY AVERAGE "RATE" FOR NEW CASES IS NOW THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY.

THE 7-DAY AVERAGE "DEATH" RATE, THOUGH, REMAINS HIGH, IT'S THE 5TH-HIGHEST IN THE NATION WITH 32 FATALITIES RECORDED TODAY, BUT AGAIN, MANY OF THOSE COVID-RELATED DEATHS ARE FROM PREVIOUS DAYS, WEEKS AND EVEN MONTHS, AND ARE JUST NOW BEING RECORDED.

AND FALLOUT CONTINUES OVER GOVERNOR DUCEY'S DECISION TO TURN DOWN AN OFFER FROM FEMA TO SET UP A VACCINATION SITE THAT WOULD FOCUS ON UNDER-SERVED COMMUNITIES IN PIMA COUNTY.

THE STATE HEALTH DIRECTOR SAYS THAT THE FEDERAL SITE WOULD MEAN FEWER VACCINES FOR THE STATE AND WOULD USE TOO MANY ARIZONA RESOURCES.

BUT FEMA DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED THOSE CLAIMS AND MOST GOVERNMENTAL LEADERS IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA ARE CALLING FOR THE GOVERNOR TO RECONSIDER HIS DECISION.

FOR MORE ON THAT DECISION TO TURN DOWN FEMA'S OFFER AND FOR ANALYSIS OF TODAY'S MOVE TO LIFT COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS, WE SPOKE WITH FORMER STATE HEALTH DIRECTOR WILL HUMBLE, WHO IS NOW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ARIZONA PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

BIG NEWS HERE WITH THE GOVERNOR LIFTING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS ON BUSINESSES AND EVENTS.

YOUR THOUGHTS.

>> IT MIGHT SURPRISE YOU, I DON'T THINK IT WILL MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE, I DON'T SEE IF YOU GO INTO A RESTAURANT OR BAR OR NIGHTCLUB TOMORROW, THAT IT WILL BE THAT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM A WEEK AGO.

THE REASON IS THERE WAS LITTLE ENFORCEMENT OF MITIGATION MEASUREMENTS.

IF THE REQUIREMENT ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AS A MEASUREMENT.

NOW THEY ARE STRAIGHT FORWARD ABOUT IT BEING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT BUSINESSES FOLLOW PROTOCOLS.

TO MIGHT SURPRISE YOU THAT I DON'T SEE THAT THE DECISION WILL MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE.

MOSTLY BECAUSE THERE WAS LITTLE ENFORCEMENT TO BEGIN WITH.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REASONS FOR ENFORCEMENT.

WE HAVE 3 MILLION VACCINATED WITH ONE DOSE.

HOSPITALIZATIONS LOWER THAN LATE SEPTEMBER AND EARLY OKAY.

DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS - DID IT ALL MAKE SENSE AS FAR AS THIS MOVE.

>> AWFUL THOSE THINGS PUT TOGETHER.

WITH THE THING YOU LEFT OUT OF THE THAT PREAMBLE IS 30% HAVE BEEN AFFECTED AND OVER THE VIRUS, IT MAKES IT MORE CHANGING FOR THE VIRUS TO FIND A NEW HOST.

>> WE ARE NOT AT HERD IMMUNITY BUT APPROACHING HERD IMMUNITY.

ONE WAY TO SUM UP THE ACTIONS YESTERDAY IS THAT THE PANDEMIC IS GOING TO LAST LONGER THAN IT OTHER WOULD HAVE, IT WILL TAKE LONGER TO GET TO HERD IMMUNITY, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM SAYING WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER HOSPITAL VIRUS.

PEOPLE STAYED THE COURSE FOR ANOTHER MONTH WITH THE MITIGATION MEASURES, COULD HAVE GOT THERE SOONER THAN NOW.

BY LIFTING THE RESTRICTIONS, IT WILL GO ON FOR LONGER, I DON'T SEE US HEADED FOR ANOTHER CRISIS.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE VARIANTS.

>> WE DO HAVE VARIANTS, SOME WE KNOW ABOUT AND SOME NOT.

ONE SPREADS EASIER I EASILY, THE 1117.

IT'S PROBLEMATIC THAT IT TRANSFERS EASILY, I WILL SAY THAT IN GENERAL, THE US GOT THE VACCINE PROGRAMME GOING UNDER THE WIRE.

BEFORE THAT VARIANT HAD A FOOD HOLD.

SOUTH-EASTERN AND WESTERN EUROPE, THE VACCINATION PROGRAMME GETTING AHEAD OF THE NEW VARIANT.

IN THE US WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET IT LARGELY, AHEAD OF IT AND PREVENT IT FROM BECOMING SOMETHING THAT CAUSES ANOTHER HOSPITAL CRISIS.

>> IN A MOVE BY THE GOVERNOR WITH THE VARIANTS OUT THERE.

YOU HAVE NO REAL PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>> MY PROBLEM IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO ON LONGER THAN IT WOULD HAVE.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD END UP IN A SURGE.

INSTEAD OF SEEING CASES DECLINING OVER THE NEXT MONTH.

WE'LL SEE IT STABLILIZE AND NOT GO DOWN.

PERHAPS THEY'LL GO UP A LITTLE BIT.

I DON'T SEE US HEAD UNDERSTOOD ANOTHER WAVE.

30% HAVE BEEN VACCINATED WITH ONE SHOT.

THERE'S CONCERN REGARDING THE GOVERNMENT'S REFUSAL OF F.E.M.A.

'S OFFER TO OPEN A FEDERAL VACCINATION SITE.

YOU GAVE A NUMBER OF REASONS FOR THAT.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT PARTICULAR DECISION.

>> HERE IS THE THING, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM AN OVER ALL PERSPECTIVE ARIZONA IS DOING OKAY GETTING SHOTS INTO ARMS.

WHERE WE ARE DOING POORLY IS GETTING VACCINES INTO THE ARMS OF LOWER INCOME PERSONS, PEOPLE THAT THERE CHALLENGES.

F.E.M.A.

COUNTY IS PROPOSING PROFILE FOCUSSING ON THE HARD TO RESEARCH POPULATION, AND WE WOULD HAVE PROVIDED 250 DOSE, ABOVE THE NORMAL STATE ALLOCATION, AND THE F.E.M.A.

PROGRAMME MAKES SURE THAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE GROWING IN THE DIFFICULT TO REACH COMMUNITIES, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO DECLINE AN INTERVENTION THAT WOULD HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB FOCUSSING ON WHAT THEY ARE DOING BADLY ON.

THE EXCUSES GIVEN TO F.E.M.A.

ARE FALLS, AND TO THEIR CREDIT.

THEY HAD A STRONGLY WORDED LETTER REFUTING THE CLAIM ABOUT 4 HOUR WAIT TILES AT F.E.M.A.

SITES, WHICH IS PREPOSTEROUS.

>> THE CONCERN FROM THE STATE AND GOVERNOR DUCEY SAYS IT WILL TAKE RESOURCES AWAY FROM THE STATE AND WE ARE DOING FINE AS WE ARE, WHAT WE FEED ARE MORE VACCINE DOSES, NOT A FEDERAL INTERVENTION IN F.E.M.A.

COUNTY.

>> WE NEED INTERVENTIONS IN LOW INCOME AREAS AND THAT'S WHAT THE F.E.M.A.

PROGRAMME WILL HAVE DONE.

THEY HAVE 100% COMMITTED TO RESOURCES EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO STAND THAT THING UP.

THERE IS A DIFFERENT REASON THAT THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

IT'S NOT THE REASONS THAT DIRECTOR CHRIS SAID IN THE LETTER BACK TO F.E.M.A.

>> LAST QUESTION HERE.

OBVIOUSLY EARLIER THE STATE OPENED UP VACCINATION APPOINTMENTS FOR THE 16 AND OLDER, WHICH MEANS WE'LL SEE A SURGE IN DEMAND HERE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND WEEKS.

WITH THAT SAID, WITH ALL OF US GOING ON, ARE WE OUT OF THE, IF NOT THE WOODS, THE DEEP WOODS WHEN IT COMES TO THAT PANDEMIC.

>> YES, WE ARE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS PANDEMIC, IT'S NOT OVER, IT WON'T BE OVER FOR A WHILE.

AND WE ARE PAST THE WORST EVER IT.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

THE WORST OF IT ENDED UP BEING WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MID-JANUARY, THOSE DAYS ARE GONE, AND THEY ARE GONE FOR GOOD.

IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF RESOURCES INTERNATIONALLY.

AND THE ABILITY TO VACCINATE DEVELOPING NATIONS, IT'S A STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY.

>> WILL HUMBLE.

GOOD TO SPEAK WITH YOU, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> MY PLEASURE, THANKS.

>> UP NEXT: A MANUFACTURER OF ELECTION BALLOTS TALKS ABOUT MAIL-IN BALLOT CONCERNS.

>> ARIZONA'S VOTE-BY-MAIL SYSTEM IS UNDER SEIGE BY REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS WHO SAY THAT MORE NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SECURE MAIL-IN BALLOTS.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH KEVIN RUNBECK, OF RUNBECK ELECTION SERVICES, A COMPANY THAT, AMONG OTHER THINGS, MANUFACTURES BALLOTS.

KEVIN, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THIS.

WE TALK ABOUT CRITICISM ABOUT MAIL-IN BALLOTS.

CONCERN OF FRAUD AND TAMPERING.

WHEN YOU HEAR THE ACCUSATIONS AND CONCERNS, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> YOU DON'T WANT TO THE DISMISS ANYTHING OUT OF THE HAND.

EVERY SINGLE EVENT THAT HAS BEEN STATED AS A FACT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN.

YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD THE REPORTS ABOUT 50 BALLOTS SHOWING UP IN THE LOT, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND OUR PROCESS HAS BEEN REFINED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS WITH VOTE-BUY-MAIL, AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SHOW US A BALLOT.

AND WE CAN TRACK IT DOWN TO THE SECOND ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.

INTO THOSE HAVE NEVER COME BACK TO US.

SO IT'S HARD TO SUBSTANTIATE A RUMOUR, OR SOMEONE SPECULATING.

>> SO WHEN YOU HEAR, IT'S MOST LIFE REPUBLICANS SAYING THAT MAIL-IN VOTING, THE ENTIRE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE MORE SECURE.

YOU SAY... >> IT IS SECURE NOW, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS COME AND CHECK IT OUT.

I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE NOT HAD A SINGLE STATE LEGISLATURE.

WE ARE CURRENTLY - WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTRY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THEY HAVE COME IN AND CHECKED OUT WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AUDITS.

WE WORKED WITH COUNTIES AND STATES ON THESE ISSUES, AND IT'S JUST NOT BEARING ANY FRUIT.

NOW, IT IS TRUE THAT ONE-OFF EVENTS DO HAPPEN, WHERE WE HAD ONE YOUNG LADY COME INTO A POLLING PLACE AND SAY HER DAD FORCED HER TO VOTE HOW SHE DIDN'T WANT TO THE VOTE AND SHE WAS HOPING TO CORRECT IT AT THE POLLING PLACE, AND SHE COULDN'T.

THEY ARE THE ONE-OFF EVENT THAT NO ONE CAN TOTALLY CONTROL.

SYSTEMIC, BIG ENOUGH TO CAUSE A PROBLEM IN THE TABULATION, THAT'S PROVEN WRONG TIME AND TIME AGAIN, IN THE COURTS AND THROUGH THE AUDITS, BY REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED STATES.

>> SO NOT EVEN A MAJOR LOOPHOLE, A LITTLE LOOPHOLE.

ANY LOOPHOLES OUT THERE.

>> I'D LIKE TO SEE US PAY FOR ATTENTION TO VOTER REGISTRATION UP FRONT.

WE ARE USING VOTERS SIGNATURE TO VERIFY.

AND IT'S VERY ACCURATE.

I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR WENT THROUGH AN AUDIT TWO TIMES ALREADY, AND I SUSPECT THERE'LL BE A THIRD ONE.

BUT, WITH THAT SAID, THE BETTER THE BASE FILES YOU HAVE ON A VOTER, AND THE SIGNATURES YOU HAVE ON FILE.

THE MORE ACCURATE AND SECURE IT WILL BE.

>> THERE WAS A RECENT STUDY OUT OF THE STAMFORD UNIVERSITY RAH REGARDING MAIL-IN BALLOTS.

I KNOW YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE STUDY.

WHAT DID YOU FIND?

>> IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I STUDIED STATISTICS, IT WAS A DEEP DIVE, BUT WHAT WAS CLEAR IN THE STUDY, WAS THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES TO VALIDATE.

THEY DIDN'T RELY ON JUST ONE DATASET POINT AND SO I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE CONCLUSION DID NOT SUPPORT ONE PARTY OVER THE OTHER, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BORN OUT BY THE REPUBLICANS IN COLORADO, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO SUPPORT THEM.

AND IT SHOWED THAT PEOPLE DECIDE - WHEN PEOPLE DECIDE A VOTE.

THEY FIND A WAY TO VOTE.

IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE VOTE BY MAILS, THEY WENT TO THE POLLS, IT DIDN'T CHANGE THE OUTCOME OR PARTICIPATION.

VOTE BY MAIL IS CONVENIENT.

AND THIS ARIZONA, PEOPLE LOVE IT.

THE VAST MAJORITY IN THE STATE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN PUT NEW RESTRICTIONS ON PEOPLE'S ACCESS TO THE PROCESS ONCE THEY DECIDE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER, AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR BETTER WAYS TO DO IT.

I DON'T FEEL IT'S A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, UNLESS WE HAVE OUTSIDE OF TAX, THAT WE HAVEN'T ANTICIPATED YET.

>> THE LAST QUESTION.

YOU TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER.

THE IDEA OF THE DATE OF BIRTH.

THE IDEA THAT WE SEE TIME: WE THINK THAT WILL ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WE KEEP HEARING.

IT WILL CAUSE PEOPLE TO GO TO THE POLLS TO VOTE.

IF THAT'S YOUR INTENT.

YOU CAN'T ACCESS IT.

THERE'S NO WAY THE COUNTIES COULD PROCESS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT.

AN.

>> UD PIECE OF PAPER WITH THE BALLOT THEY CAN'T PROCESS IT.

WHEN WE NEED SIGNATURE VERIFICATION, THE ENVELOPES ARE FILED.

THAT WOULD BE SACRIFICED WITH THAT PROCESS.

WE ARE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

GOOD CONVERSATION, THANK YOU.

.

>> GOOD TO SEE US, THANKS.

>> HACKERS AND SCAMMERS HAVE USED THE PANDEMIC TO FIND NEW WAYS TO COMMIT FRAUD.

HORIZONTE HOST, JOSE CARDENAS TALKED MORE ABOUT THIS WITH ADAM BULAVA, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF JP MORGAN CHASE CYBERSECURITY AND TECHNOLOGY CONTROLS.

>> ADAM, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, AND I KNOW THE AREA OF EXPERTISE, THE IMPACT THAT THE PANDEMIC HAD ON ISSUES OF CYBER SECURITY, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THAT.

>> SURE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.

THE ADVERSARIES FOR BAD ACTORS AS YOU CALL THEM LIKE TO SEE THE NEWS HEADLINES TO DEVELOP THE STRATEGIES AND SCHEMES, AS YOU IMAGINE, WITH THE PANDEMIC, THERE'S A NUMBER OF SCHEMES THAT HAVE EVOLVED AND THAT ARE BEING LEVERAGED.

FIRST AND FOREMOST.

THEY HAVE BEEN IMPERSONATING GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, AND USING THE PRETEXT OF THE ENTITIES TO GET YOU TO CONNECT ON A LINK AND PROVIDE INFORMATION.

THEY ARE TRYING TO LEVERAGE PUBLIC PROGRAMS TO STORE INDIVIDUALS DURING THE PANDEMIC.

THESE COULD BE STIMULUS CHECKS, THE STATE'S UNEMPLOYED SPENT FITS THAT CAN BE PLIED FOR.

THEY ARE STEALING IDENTITIES, AND REDIRECTING PAYMENTS TO THE ADVERSARY CONTROL PAYMENTS.

>> IT UNDER LIKE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMMON CRIMINALS, AS OPPOSED TO THE SOLAR WIND CONTROVERSY, YOU HAVE NATION STATE.

RUSSIAN HACKERS DOING THIS FOR PURPOSES OF IDENTITY.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED.

THERE'S ORGANISED GROUPS OF FRAUDSTERS AND MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO CARRY OUT THE ATTACKS.

FOR THE AVERAGE US CITIZENS.

AND IS PART OF THE SITUATION HERE - YOU TALK ABOUT NOT BEING SOPHISTICATED TO DO THIS.

IS PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME AND ARE NOT TAKING THE SAME KIND OF PRECAUTIONS AS THEY WERE WHEN WORKING IN THE OFFICE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THERE'S A SHIFT IN LEVERAGING THE SHIFT FROM HOME.

WHAT IS LOOKED FOR IS VULNERABILITIES IN THE REMOTE ENVIRONMENTS.

MAYBE IT'S USING A WEEK PASSPORT OR VULNERABILITIES IN A PERSONNEL ADVICE.

NOT KEEPING IT UP TO DATE.

OR UPDATING THE ANTIVIRUS ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THE BAD ACTORS ARE LOOKING FOR THE VULNERABILITIES .

>> I UNDERSTAND THE UNEMPLOYMENT IS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN INTERCEPTED.

LACKS LIKE THE TARGET OR THE VICTIM IS THE STATE.

THEY ARE SUBMITTING UNEMPLOYMENT FLAMES DIRECTLY THOUGH THE STATE ON BEHALF OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT UNEMPLOYED.

YES, THAT'S RIGHT.

AND IT'S A FAIRLY COMMON THEME THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THE PAST YEAR, WITH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF FRAUD BEING COMMITTED, AND THE SAYS ARE WORKING TO CRACK DOWN ON THAT.

PARTNERING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT HOME LANDS SECURITY TO IMPROVE THE DETECTION OF APPLICATIONS, EVEN FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS HAVE MONITORING IN PLACE TO DETECT WHEN THE APPLICATIONS MIGHT BE FRAUDULENT.

>> SO ARE THERE THINGS THE STATES CAN DO.

WHAT ABOUT INDIVIDUALS, WHAT CAN THEY DO TO ENHANCE CYBER SECURITY WHEN THEY ARE WORKING FROM HOME.

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS I LIKE TO SAY.

THIS MAY BE OVERLY SIMPLISTIC, IT'S APPARENT TO STOP, THING AND PAUSE.

EVERYONE IS BUSY WITH OUR DAILY LIVES AND SCHEDULES.

IF YOU HAVE AN INTERACTION VIA EMAIL OR TEXT MESSAGE.

PAUSE AND SPEAK ABOUT WHETHER THE INTERACTION.

LOOK AT THE SENDING EMAIL ADDRESS, IS THE SENDER CHANGING ONE OR TWO LETTERS IN THE EMAIL ACCESS.

AND GET TO YOU THING IT'S A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS.

MAYBE THERE'S POOR GRAMMAR, OR THERE'S USE OF A THREATENING OR URGENT TONE.

THESE ARE ALL RED FLAGS THAT WE TEND TO EDUCATE AND TRAIN PEOPLE AGAINST.

IF ITS A PHONE CALL OUR YOUR BACK OR OTHER LEGITIMATE ORGANISATION AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR PERSONNEL INFORMATION ROCK PERSONAL INFORMATION AND GET YOU TO TAKE AN ACTION, THEY SHOULD NEVER CALL YOU OUT OF THE BLUE AND ASK FOR THAT DATA, SO WE ASK YOU TO END THE CALL AND CALL THE BUSINESS BACK ON A GO GOOD ESTABLISHED NUMBER FOR THAT ENTITY.

>> WHAT ABOUT CHILDREN.

THEY ARE SPENDING MORE TIME ON THE COMPUTERS FOR LEGITIMATE REASONS, BUT TO WHILE AWAY THE TIME.

ARE THEY PARTICULARLY A VULNERABLE GROUP.

>> VERY MUCH SO, I HAVE TWO SMALL CHILDREN AT HOME.

THE OLDEST IS FIVE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION EARLY, AROUND SAFE ONLINE PRACTICES.

FOR MANY KIDS, AS YOU MENTIONED.

THE SHIFT TO ONLINE SCHOOLING IS ENTIRELY NEW.

THEY WERE LEVERAGING WEBSITES, USING TOOLS THAT THEY HAVE NEVER USED BEFORE, AND KIDS ARE AT HOME.

WHERE THEY ARE NOT HANGING OUT WITH FRIENDS.

THEY ARE TURNING TO ONLINE CHANNELS, WHETHER IT'S GAMING OR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS TO HAVE THAT CONNECTION.

HAVING THE TALK EARLY, EVEN BEFORE THEY START USING THE INTERNET IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, IS CRITICAL.

AND DESCRIBE HOW IT'S IMPORTANT SO HAVE A SECURE PASSWORD.

HOW IT COULD BE USED MALICIOUS THERE BY A BAD ACTOR.

>> I THINK YOU HAVE GIVEN NEW BEING TO THE TALK.

BUT NEXT QUESTION, AND WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF THE TIME.

WHAT RESOURCES CAN PEOPLE AVAIL THEMSELVES OF.

>> THERE'S A RESOURCE FROM THE CENTER OF CYBER SAFETY AND EDUCATION, NAVIGATE TO THAT SITE.

THERE'S GREAT TEMPLATES AND MATERIAL FOR CHILDREN, SENIOR CITIZENS, GROUPS OF ALL CHANGES TO FURTHER EDUCATE THEM AROUND RISKS AND HOW YOU CAN MANAGE THE RISKS.

THE DEPARTMENT OF HOME SECURITY AND EDUCATION HAVE TIPS ON HOW TO STAY VIGILANT.

AND MY COMPANY, CHASE, HAS A PROGRAMME CALLED CYBER SAFETY FOR GOOD.

WHERE WELL SEND A CYBER EXPERT - VIRTUALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR - TO SPEAK TO THE SCHOOL ABOUT THE RISKS WE HAVE A PROGRAMME, AND HOW TO MITIGATE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW, I'M TED SIMONS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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