
04-28-21: flat tax, "Blackface', anti-abortion bill
Season 2021 Episode 86 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
proposal for a flat tax rate in Arizona, A book about "blackface", anti-abortion bill
We look at a proposal that institutes a flat tax rate in Arizona and what that would mean for the cities and towns in the state. We look at a book released about the historical origins of "blackface” and why there are less examples of people of color and whiteface. We looked at what an anti-abortion bill that is sitting on the governors desk would mean for some physicians.
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04-28-21: flat tax, "Blackface', anti-abortion bill
Season 2021 Episode 86 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
We look at a proposal that institutes a flat tax rate in Arizona and what that would mean for the cities and towns in the state. We look at a book released about the historical origins of "blackface” and why there are less examples of people of color and whiteface. We looked at what an anti-abortion bill that is sitting on the governors desk would mean for some physicians.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship[♪ THEME MUSIC ♪] >>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS, ON ARIZONA HORIZON, OUR WEEKLY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE LOOKS AT THE DEMOCRATIC RESPONSE TO THE AUDIT OF MARICOPA COUNTY VOTES.
ON CRONKITE NEWS, THE IMPACT ON FARMS WHEN RESTAURANTS AND SCHOOLS SHUT DOWN DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, AND ON BREAK IT DOWN, THE ONLINE HARASSMENT PLAGUING THE GAMING WORLD.
THAT'S ALL COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF ARIZONA PBS.
>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."
I'M TED SIMONS.
THE STATE SENATE'S AUDIT OF MARICOPA COUNTY COUNTY VOTES FROM LAST NOVEMBER'S ELECTION CONTINUES AT VETERANS' MEMORIAL COLISEUM.
A JUDGE DENIED A REQUEST FOR A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER TO STOP THE PROCEEDINGS, AND REJECTED ATTEMPTS BY CYBER NINJAS TO KEEP ITS AUDIT PROCEDURES SECRET.
CYBER NINJAS ATTORNEY'S SAY ONE REASON TO KEEP THEM SECRET IS TO AVOID WHAT THEY DESCRIBE AS UNFAIR CRITICISM FROM THE MEDIA.
THE LOCAL MEDIA HAS REACHED AN AGREEMENT FOR LIMITED ACCESS TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE COLISEUM.
>> WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE PRESS.
AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE PRESS THERE AT THE FACILITY, WATCHING EVERY SHIFT.
>> THEY ARE WATCHING FROM A DISTANCE, THOUGH, AS POOL COVERAGE IS ONLY ALLOWED FROM FIXED LOCATIONS.
>>> NO MAJOR CHANGES IN COVID-19 CASES AND FATALITIES.
HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE ALSO REMAINING STEADY.
>>> A NEW STUDY SHOWS THE PFIZER AND MODERNA VACCINES REDUCED HOSPITALIZATIONS IN ADULTS 65 AND OLDER BY A WHOPPING 95%.
YOUNG PEOPLE STILL ARE NOT GETTING VACCINATED AS MUCH AS HEALTH OFFICIALS WOULD LIKE.
>> A PERSON WHO MAKE THAT DECISION IS LOOKING AT THEMSELVES IN TOTALLY A VACUUM, AND NOT REALIZING YOU ARE A PART OF SOCIETY.
BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO THINK BEYOND YOURSELF AND SAY, IF I'M A YOUNG PERSON, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET VACCINATED, BUT I GET INFECTED, YOU MAY INFECT SOMEBODY WHO PASSES IT ON TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO MAY DIE.
>>> OTHER NEWS A NEW POLL SHOWS A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS HAVE POSITIVE VIEW OF THE ECONOMY FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE PANDEMIC BEGAN.
54% THINK THAT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS ARE EITHER SOMEWHAT OR VERY GOOD RIGHT NOW.
>>> AND MICHAEL COLLINS, THE SO-CALLED FORGOTTEN ASTRONAUT OF THE FIRST MOON LANDING, HAS DIE.
COLLINS TRAVELED TO THE MOON ON THE APOLLO 11 MISSION WITH NEIL ARMSTRONG AND BUZZ ALDRIN IN 9169, AND REMAINED ON THE SPACECRAFT AS ITS LOAN PILOT, WHILE THE OTHER TWO BECOME THE FIRST TO WALK ON THE MOON.
MICHAEL COLLINS, DEAD AT THE AGE OF 90.
>>> THIS WEEK'S LEGISLATIVE UPDATE LOOKS AT A CONTROVERSIAL ABORTION BILL SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.
OUR GUEST IS SENATE MINORITY LEADER REBECCA RIOS.
SENATOR GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON OUR LEGISLATIVE UPDATE THIS WEEK.
LET'S START WITH THE ANTI-ABORTION BILL SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR YESTERDAY.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> THIS IS THE MOST FAR-REACHING ABORTION BILL YET.
AND THAT SAYS SOMETHING.
BECAUSE OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS IT HAS BEEN ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION AFTER ANOTHER.
BUT THIS ONE NOW REGULATES THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE THROUGH CRIMINAL SANCTIONS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT LITERALLY MAKING PHYSICIANS CRIMINALS.
ARIZONA IS -- IS AT A SHORTAGE WITH REGARD TO PHYSICIANS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DECIDES TO MOVE TO ARIZONA, NOW KNOWING THEY CAN BE CRIMINALIZED FOR THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE.
>> REPUBLICANS ARE SAYING THIS IS HELPING WOMEN -- ESPECIALLY LIKE THE PART ABOUT NOT MAILING ABORTION MEDICATION, THAT IT KEEPS WOMEN FROM BEING ALONE.
THEY ARE SAYING IT PRIORITIZES PROTECTING LIFE IN PRE-BORN CHILDREN OVERALL.
DO THEY HAVE A POINT?
>> IF YOU LISTEN TO THEIR ARGUMENTS, THEY ARE INCREDIBLY CONDESCENDING.
THE ASSUMPTION THAT WOMEN WHEN THEY FINALLY GET TO THIS DECISION POINT; THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST PERSONAL DECISION THAT A FAMILY HAS TO MAKE, AND YET THESE REPUBLICANS ARE INJECTING GOVERNMENT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A PATIENT AND A DOCTOR.
I MEAN, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY PRIVATE DECISION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE BY A WOMAN, HER PARTNER, AND THEIR GOD, AND THERE IS NO ROOM FOR REPUBLICANS TO INSERT THEMSELVES, BUT THEY WITH THIS BILL, ARE, I THINK, HIDING BEHIND THE GUISE OF WE WANT TO PROTECT DISABLED FOLKS.
THEY WILL FIND A GROUP TO HIDE BEHIND, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A LEGITIMATE MEDICAL PROCEDURE THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE PROVIDED TO A WOMAN SHOULD SHE DECIDE SHE NEEDS IT, AND THERE IS NO PLACE FOR GOVERNMENT INTRUSION HERE.
SO IT IS VERY CONCERNING, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE LITERALLY CRIMINALIZING THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE.
THIS IS A FAR RIGHT PIECE OF LEGISLATION, AND ONE IN WHICH I THINK WE HAVE THE GOVERNOR, FORTUNATELY PANDERING TO THE FAR RIGHT, THAT IS STILL UP SET WITH HIM BECAUSE OF THE MASSING MANDATE.
THESE ARE DECISIONS THAT ARE INCREDIBLY PRIVATE AND INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, AND IT IS VERY FRIGHTENING.
>> I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING DOWN AT THE VETERANS' MEMORIAL COLISEUM.
BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A MESS IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
EVERY DAY -- WE HAVE ALREADY REPORTED WHAT HAPPENED AS FAR AS THE COURT HOURING IS CONCERNED.
BUT YOUR THOUGHTS SO FAR, AND WHAT ARE THE DEMOCRATS DOING TO MONITOR THE SITUATION, AND WHO IS FUNDING ALL OF THIS, AND WHY WAS THIS CYBER NINJAS CHOSEN IN THE FIRST PLACE?
>> WELL, THE GENESIS OF THIS WHOLE THANK, IS REPUBLICANS DON'T THINK THERE WAS A FREE AND CLEAR ELECTION, SO THEY ARE PUTTING ON A SHOW OF EPIC PROPORTIONS THAT CALL INTO QUESTION EVERY SINGLE BEHAVIOR.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO HAS ACCESS TO 2.1 MILLION BALLOTS, AND THEY HAVE ACCESS TO OUR PRIVATE VOTER FILES.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE, AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FORTHCOMING WITH THEIR PLANS.
YOU SEE THE CYBER NINJAS, YOU KNOW, CHANGING ATTORNEYS MIDSTREAM, ASKING FOR CONTINUANCES, THESE FOLKS ARE NOT READY, AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS FROM MR. BENNETT WHO IS KIND OF OVERSEEING THIS -- THEY COUNTED ABOUT 100,000 BALLOTS.
WE HAVE 2.1 MILLION.
LITERALLY THE CLOCK IS TICKING, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS FUNDING THIS CHARADE.
THE SENATE HAS PAID $150,000 TOWARDS THIS, QUOTE UNQUOTE, AUDIT, BUT CLEARLY THERE IS A LOT OF FUND-RAISING BEING DONE BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ON THIS EXERCISE.
THE FULL COST IS NOT KNOWN.
SO, AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE ARE REPUBLICANS THAT WANTED TO CONDUCT THIS FRAUD-IT, AND YET EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING IS UNDERMINING DEMOCRACY, STARTING WITH THE FIRST DAY AND ALL OF THEIR VOLUNTEERS USING BLUE PENS.
BLUE PENS CAN MARK AND CHANGE THE BALLOTS.
>> REAL QUICKLY, BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
REPUBLICANS TELL ME THAT THIS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS OVER ELECTION INTEGRITY.
DO THEY HAVE A POINT?
>> THEY DON'T.
THEY ARE LISTENING TO A FAR-RIGHT CRAZY BASE THAT AT THEN OF THE DAY IT WAS THE MARICOPA COUNTY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT ARE ALMOST ENTIRELY REPUBLICAN THAT HAVE SAID THIS WAS A FREE AND CLEAR ELECTION.
SO THIS IS ENTIRELY A SIDE SHOW, A GAME.
THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR PRE-DETERMINED OUTCOMES I WOULD ARGUE, AND IT REALLY DOES NOTHING MORE THAN UNDERMINE OUR ENTIRE DEMOCRACY AND ELECTORAL PROCESS HERE IN ARIZONA.
>> SENATE MINORITY LEADER REBECCA RIOS, ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> UP NEXT, A REPUBLICAN STATE SENATOR EXPRESSES CONCERNS OVER A FLAT-TAX PROPOSAL.
>>> FLAT-TAX PROPOSALS AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE ARE NOTHING NEW, BUT THE LATEST EFFORT BY SEVERAL REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS IS FACING PUSHBACK FROM SENATOR PAUL BOYER.
EARLIER TODAY WE ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS CONCERNS.
SENATOR, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE.
WE'RE TALKING FLAT-TAX PROPOSALS.
WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.
WE HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IT BOUNCING AROUND THE CAPITOL FOR QUITE SOMETIME.
>> FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, I STILL HAVE NOT HAD MY ONE ON ONE BRIEFING, WHICH IS TOMORROW.
BUT WHAT I HAVE HEARD, IT WOULD MAKE ONE RATE, AND COMPLEX IT, THE HIGHEST RATE IS AROUND 4.9 AND BUMP THAT DOWN TO AROUND 2.5%.
>> CURRENTLY, IT'S 2.5 SOMETHING IF YOU MAKE UP TO $50,000 A YEAR, AND 4.5 IF YOU MAKE OVER $300,000.
EVERY NOW GETS DOWN TO 2.5%.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON HERE?
>> WELL, THE IMPACT ON CITIES -- SO CITIES GET STATE REVENUE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING VOTERS PASSED.
15% OF THE STATE INCOME TAX GOES TO THE CITIES.
IF YOU TAKE 1.5 BILLION, THAT'S A $225 MILLION HIT.
MY CITIES ALONE, THAT MEANS THAT PHOENIX WOULD GET HIT 65 MILLION, AND GLENDALE ABOUT 10 MILES PER HOUR.
WHICH, WHEN THEY ARE SPENDING UPWARDS OF 70% ON THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY, THERE IS GOING TO BE LESS BOOTS OWN THE GROUND.
>> AND SINCE INTERNET SALES TAXES ARE INCLUDED IN THE MIX, I HAVE HEARD THAT WOULDN'T BE SO BAD.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU?
>> IT DOESN'T.
MANY OF THOSE ONLINE ARE ACTUALLY BRICK -- THEY WERE BRICK AND MORTAR AT THE TIME.
IN OTHER WORDS I DON'T THINK CITIES ARE SEEING THIS WINFALL FROM THOSE PARTICULAR REVENUES.
>> WHAT ABOUT FEDERAL REVENUE FROM STIMULUS?
I MEAN THERE'S MONEY FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE.
IS THAT THE KIND OF MONEY THAT WOULD HELP BALANCE OFF A FLAT-TAX PROPOSALS.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO FUTURE PERMANENT TAX CUTS THAT -- IT'S HARDER TO RAISE TAXES THAN CUT TAXES BASED ON ONETIME MONEY FROM THE FEDS.
ESPECIALLY WHEN OUR ECONOMISTS ARE SAYING THE POTENTIAL FOR UPSIDE IS LESS THAN POSSIBLE DOWNTURN IN THE ECONOMY.
>> THE OTHER ARGUMENT FOR THIS -- MAIN ARGUMENT IS FAIRNESS.
THEY ARE SAYING EVERYONE PAYS THE SAME RATE.
THAT SOUNDS FAIR TO THEM.
SOUND FAIR TO THEM?
>> SURE, IF WE CAN BALANCE OUR BUDGETS MOVING FORWARD.
AGAIN, WE'RE STILL NOT OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION.
AND THESE ARE LOCAL ARIZONA ECONOMIES THAT ARE SAYING AS EARLY AS NEXT SPRING BUT MAYBE AS LATE AS NEXT FALL, SO WE STILL DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS.
NOT TO MENTION WE HAVE PENSION LIABILITY TO THE TUNE OF A BILLION DOLLARS.
WE HAVE K-12 ROLLOVERS AT $930 MILLION.
THAT'S WHERE THE STATE SAYS WE'LL FUND YOU NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT NUMBER KEEPS GROWING, AND NOT TO MENTION, WE HAVEN'T EVEN BOUGHT BACK OUR OWN STATE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAD TO LEASE DURING THE GREAT RECESSION.
WE STILL OWE $400 MILLION THERE.
>> AND YET THE OTHER SIDE WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'RE EXPECTING, WHAT, $1 BILLION BUDGET SURPLUS HERE, IF NOT MORE, AND NOW IS THE TIME IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING THIS RADICAL OR DIFFERENT -- AGAIN, DOES THAT MAKE SINCE TO YOU?
>> WELL, I LIKE TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE ECONOMISTS SAY, AND THEY ARE TELLING US WE SHOULD BE CONSERVATIVE.
I THINK WE NEEDED FUNDED IN OUR UNIVERSITIES, BECAUSE OUR PER CAPITA IS SO BAD, WE ARE ABYSMAL IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
SO IF THE ARGUMENT IS, THE FAIR TAX -- LET'S REDUCE TAXES AND THAT WILL HAVE ALL OF THE BUSINESSES COME HERE, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUSTAIN IT OR THE BODIES TO FILL THOSE JOBS, THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
>> WILL THERE EVER BE A TIME IN ARIZONA FOR A FLAT TAX TO MAKE SENSE?
>> I DO.
BUT NOW IS NOT THE TIME.
WE HAVE $910 MILLION IN SOME FORM OF TAX CUTS THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 25, AND MANY OF THOSE WILL PASS, AND BE CHAMPIONED BY INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS, AND SO I JUST THINK THERE'S STILL SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT REALLY, I THINK WE OUGHT TO HOLD OFF AT LEAST ONE YEAR, JUST SO WE CAN GET THROUGH THE EFFECTS OF THE COVID ECONOMY, AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT GROWTH WE SAW WHEN CALIFORNIA WAS SHUT DOWN -- WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL BE ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN US.
>> AND WHERE DOES THIS THING STAND?
>> MY UNDERSTANDING IT HAS TO BE -- OR AT LEAST MY PERSPECTIVE, IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE BUDGET.
WE CAN'T RUN THE TAX BILL SEPARATE -- WHICH THEY COULD DO, BUT IN MY OPINION, WITH MY VOTE, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN BIFURCATE THE TWO, RUN THE TAX PACKAGE FIRST AND THEN RUN THE SUGGEST.
I THINK IT SHOULD ALL BE PART OF THE SAME PACKAGE.
>> SENATOR PAUL BOYER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
♪ >>> REGENTS PROFESSOR AND DIRECTOR OF THE ARIZONA CENTER FOR MEDIEVAL AND RENAISSANCE STUDIES.
SHE HAS WRITTEN A NEW BOOK TITLED "BLACKFACE," WHICH LOOKS AT THE HISTORICAL ORIGINS OF BLACKFACE, AND ITS IMPACT TODAY.
"HORIZONTE" HOST JOSE CARDENAS SPOKE WITH AYANNA THOMPSON ABOUT HER BOOK.
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON OUR SHOW TO TALK ABOUT BLACKFACE.
I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, ACTUALLY WITH THE END OF YOUR BOOK, CHAPTER 7, WHICH YOU ENTITLE, CONCLUSION, I CAN'T BREATHE.
AND OF COURSE, WE HAD THE VERDICT OF DEREK CHAUVIN LAST WEEK FINDING HIM GUILTY OF MURDER.
WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN BLACKFACE AND THE KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD?
>> YEAH, I THINK THERE ARE WAYS IN WHICH WE TRY TO SEGMENT AND SEPARATE ISSUES IN HISTORY, BUT I THINK THERE IS A THROUGH LINE BETWEEN THE WAY THAT BLACKS ARE REHUMANIZED IN BLACKFACE PERFORMANCES, AND THE DEHUMANIZATION OF ACTUAL BLACK PEOPLE WHEN WE ENCOUNTER THEM IN LIFE.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE THROUGH LINE I WANTED TO POINT OUT IN THE BOOK, IS TO BREAK DOWN THE HISTORICAL AMNESIA, AND THING ABOUT THE DEHUMANIZATION.
>> DOES THE GUILTY VERDICT CHANGE THINGS?
>> I THINK IT'S A START.
AND I HOPE THE BOOK HELPS US HAVE DIALOGUE THAT PUSHES US IN A NEW DIRECTION, BUT I THINK IT'S TOO SOON TO TELL.
>> MOST PEOPLE WOULD ASSOCIATE BLACKFACE WITH THE DEEP SOUTH AND JIM CROW, AND MORE RECENT ISSUES, BUT IT ACTUALLY HAS CONNECTIONS AND ROOTS IN ENGLAND.
TELL US ABOUT THAT?
>> YEAH, MOST PEOPLE THINK OF BLACKFACE AS STARTING IN THE SOUTH, BUT THE HISTORY OF PERFORMING BLACK CHARACTERS IN ENGLISH-SPEAKING THEATER WAS FROM THE BEGINNING OF WHITE ENDEAVOR.
SO ALL OF THE PLAYS FROM SHAKESPEARES LIFETIME, THAT INCLUDES CHARACTERS OF COLOR, AND THERE ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 TO 75 PLAYS THAT INCLUDE CHARACTERS OF COLORS IN SHAKESPEARE'S LIFETIME, THOSE WOULD ALL BE PLAYED WITH PROSTHETICS.
AND THAT PERFORM TRADITION, HOPPED UPON THE COLONIES, WHERE SHAKESPEARES PLAYS WERE PUT ON REGULARLY, IN EARLY AMERICA, AND OH FELLOW WAS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR.
>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PICTURES FROM YOUR BOOK.
I WANT TO INTERJECT HERE.
AND YOU ARE A WORLD RENOWNED SHAKESPEARE SCHOLAR, BUT AN EXAMPLE IS JAMES HULETT PERFORMING IN THE STYLE OF PROMINENT ENGLISH WHITE ACTORS AT THE TIME.
>> YEAH, SO HULETT WHO WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PROFESSIONAL BLACK AMERICAN ACTORS GOT A START IN THE 1820S, AND HE LIKED TO BILL HIMSELF AS THE BLACK EDMOND KING, WHO WAS THE BIGGEST SUPER STAR BRITISH SHAKESPEARE PERFORMER, AND THE SAME IS TRUE OF IRA ALDRIDGE WHO BECAME AN INTERNATIONAL FUNDAMENTAL IN THE 30S, 40S, AND 50S, AND WE PERFORMED IN WHITEFACE WHEN HE WAS DOING McBETH AND KING LEER AND BECOME A SUPER STAR.
>> AND YOU BEGIN YOUR BOOK BY TALKING AND AN INCIDENT AT YOUR CHILDREN'S SCHOOL WHERE YOU HAVE WHITE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AS BLACK CHARACTERS.
>> YEAH, MY SON, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THAT THIRD GRADE CLASS BACK IN 2012 WAS WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, BUT IT NEVER OCCURRED TO HIM TO APPLY WHITE MAKEUP, BUT SEVERAL OF HIS CLASSMATES DID USE BLACK MAKEUP.
AND THE BOOK IS REALLY AN INVESTIGATION OF WHY MY SON WOULDN'T CONSIDER THAT, AND WHY THESE THREE WHITE CHILDREN DID.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY HAD ANYTHING WRONG WITH THEM, BUT IT'S SORT OF PART OF THIS LONGER HISTORY, WHERE WHITE PEOPLE BELIEVE IT IS PART OF THEIR ENTITLEMENT.
>> DOCTOR THOMPSON, WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF TIME, BUT I KNOW FROM OTHER INTERVIEWS YOU HAVE GIVEN, THAT THIS BOOK IS JUST PART OF YOUR ANALYSIS, AND THERE IS MORE TO COME.
>> YEAH, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING MORE RESEARCH ON HOW ACTING WITH PERFORMED BY OTHER RACES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
♪ >>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS, IMPACT ON FARMS WHEN RESTAURANTS AND SCHOOLS SHUT DOWN DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, AND ON BREAK IT DOWN, THE ONLINE HARASSMENT PLAGUING THE GAMING WORLD.
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