
05-21-21: Journalists' Roundtable, Jenny Poon Entrepreneur
Season 2021 Episode 103 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Growing animosity-Maricopa County vs. State Senate in audit process, Jenny Poon's business
Time now for the journalists' roundtable and this week a look at the increasing animosity between the State Senate and Maricopa County over the Senate's attempt to audit County Presidential and U.S. Senate votes. It’s Asian American Pacific Islanders History month and joining us tonight is 2016’s Phoenix Business Person of the Year, Jenny Poon, who talked to us about being an entrepreneur.
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05-21-21: Journalists' Roundtable, Jenny Poon Entrepreneur
Season 2021 Episode 103 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Time now for the journalists' roundtable and this week a look at the increasing animosity between the State Senate and Maricopa County over the Senate's attempt to audit County Presidential and U.S. Senate votes. It’s Asian American Pacific Islanders History month and joining us tonight is 2016’s Phoenix Business Person of the Year, Jenny Poon, who talked to us about being an entrepreneur.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA HORIZON ON ARIZONA HORIZON, THE ON GOING FIGHT BETWEEN THE STATE SENATE AND MARICOPA COUNTY ON ELECTION RESULTS.
ON BREAK IT DOWN, THE IMPACT OF TELENOVELAS ON THE MEDIA INDUSTRY, ALL COMING UP.
GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
MLK COUNTY PUT THE STATE SENATE AND THOSE CONDUCTING THE REVIEW OF MARICOPA COUNTY ELECTION RESULTS ON NOTICE TO HOLD ALL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE RECOUNT.
THE MOVE SIGNALS THAT THE COUNTY INTENDS TO FILE SUIT AGAINST THE SENATE, NOTING THAT THE COUNTY HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF AMONG OTHER THINGS DESTROYING EVIDENCE BY DELETING ELECTION RELATED DATABASES.
THAT ACCUSATION WAS LATER WALKED BACK BY ONE OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS PERFORMING THE SO-CALLED AUDIT.
>>> A FEDERAL JUDGE RECORDED A MEDICAL HEALTH FAMILIAR FOR JAKE ANGELI.
KNOWN FOR WEARING A IF YOU ARE HAT, AND HORNS IS ARRESTED FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
VAGUE MANUFACTURES ARE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBLE NEED FOR CRONKITE BOOSTER SHOTS TO BE ADMINISTERED EIGHT TO 12 MONTHS AFTER ORIGINAL VACCINATIONS.
ARIZONA'S HEALTH DIRECTOR WITH THOUGHTS ABOUT BOOSTERS.
>> SO WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING, THE DATA SHOWS THAT THE VACCINES ARE EFFECTIVE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS, AND SO WE WOULD LIKELY ANTICIPATE POTENTIALLY A YEAR, BUT MAYBE LONGER FOR A BOOSTER.
OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS AND THE DRUG MANUFACTURERS ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHEN BOOSTERS WILL BE NEEDED.
>> THE CDC REPORT ADD BREAKTHROUGH OCCASIONS OF COVID IN THOSE FULLY VACCINATED CONTINUE TO BE VERY RARE.
THE AGENCY REPORTS OVER 1900 CONFIRMED CASES INVOLVING HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR DEATH.
THAT EQUATES TO ONE CASE IN EVERY 64,000 VACCINATED PEOPLE, WITH MOST OF THOSE INFECTED AGE 65 AND OLDER.
THE CDC ADDS THAT THE NUMBER OF BREAKTHROUGH ILLNESSES IS LIKELY UNDERREPORTED.
IF YOU'RE FULLY VACCINATED BUT HESITANT AS TO LEAVE THE HOUSE WITHOUT WEARING A MASK, YOU'RE NOT ALONE.
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI SAID IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
>> FEARS LIKE THAT ARE NOT IRRATIONAL.
IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WHEN YOU'RE USED TO A CERTAIN TYPE OF BEHAVIOR, AND THEN WHEN THE SCIENCE SAYS THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY TURN AROUND THAT AS WE SAID WITH THE RECENT CDC GUIDELINES THAT SAY WE CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE, THAT IF YOU'RE FULLY VACCINATED, THAT YOU ARE SAFE FROM BEING INFECTED, BE IT OUTDOORS OR INDOORS, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING A CERTAIN TREND FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME, THAT IT MAY TAKE TIME FOR THEM TO ADJUST, SO I WOULD NOT SAY THAT THAT'S IRRATIONAL, I WOULD SAY THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.
>>> IN SCIENCE NEWS, NASA PLAN TO SAY SEND A MOBILE ROBOT TO THE MOON TO SEARCH OR WATER OR RESOURCES ON OR BELOW THE LUNAR SURFACE.
SCHEDULED FOR 2023, THE ROVER WILL HAVE HEADLIGHTS TO EXPLORE AREAS THAT HAVEN'T SEEN THE SUN IN BILLIONS OF YEARS.
IT'S ALL PART OF A NASA PROGRAM THAT WILL EVENTUALLY SEND ASTRONAUTS BACK TO THE MOON.
>>> TIME NOW FOR THE JOURNALISTS ROUND TABLE.
THIS WEEK A LOOK AT THE INCREASING ANIMOSITY BETWEEN THE STATE SENATE AND MARICOPA COUNTY.
WE HAD A PROPOSED BUDGET MAKING THE ROUNDS OF THE CAPITOL THIS WEEK.
GENTLEMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, WE APPRECIATE IT, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE ON THE ROUND TAIL.
JEREMY, WE'LL START WITH YOU, THE STATE SENATE MARICOPA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SAID THIS WEEK, LET'S START ON MONDAY, WE HAD THE MARICOPA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE AUDIT, CALLING IT A GRIFT, A SHAM, A CON, ENOUGH OF A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE HERE?
>> YOU CAN SEE THE RHETORIC HERE.
THEY DECLARED POLITICAL WAR ON THE SENATE AND THE AUDIT TO THE EXTEND THEY HADN'T ALREADY.
THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE PETERSON DECIDING NOT TO ISSUE THE SUBPOENAS THEY WERE THREATENING TO ISSUE.
THEY SAID WE'D LIKE YOU GUYS TO COME DOWN TO THE SENATE AND ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, SOME ACCUSATIONS, WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE STUFF.
THEY SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO THERE AND TALK TO YOU, WE'RE DONE PLAYING WITH YOU, HERE'S OUR LETTER.
IT HAD ALL THE RESPONSES, INCLUDING ALLEGATIONS THAT PEOPLE HAD ILLEGALLY DELETED FILES.
THAT WAS THE MAIN ONE.
THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THIS LETTER, WHICH IS A BLISTERING 14 PAGE LETTER LIKE YOU SAID, CALLED IT A CON, SAYING IT'S EMBARRASSING ARIZONA, BAD FOR THE STATE, FOR THE COUNTRY, ASKING TO END ALL THIS.
COUNTY RECORDER RICHARD, THE NEWLY ELECTED REPUBLICAN IN THAT OFFICE TAKING A SIMILAR LINE GOING OFF ABOUT THIS AND HOW UNFAIR IT IS TO MAKE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THE COUNTY AND ELECTION EMPLOYEES.
>> THEY SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THIS MEETING, WHATEVER YOU'RE HAVING THERE TUESDAY, SO, YOU KNOW, HE DOES HOLD THE MEETING THERE TUESDAY AND THEN WE LEARN WHAT, THAT THE WHOLE IDEA OF DELETING INFORMATION HEY, LOOK, IT'S NOT DELETED AFTER ALL.
>> WELL, THEY FOUND IT.
THEY SAY THAT THEY RECOVERED THE CONTRACTOR SAID THEY RECOVERED THE DIRECTORY OF FILES THAT THE COUNTY WAS INITIALLY ACCUSED OF DELETING.
IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THE CONTRACTOR FOUND THOSE FILES BEFORE OR AFTER THE COUNTY -- THAT WAS PART OF THE RESPONSE THAT JEREMY WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, THE COUNTY PROVIDED THE TECHNICAL EXPLANATION.
THEY'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO EXPLAIN MAYBE POSSIBLE ERRORS OR THINGS THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THE SENATE'S CONTRACTORS HAD DONE WRONG, BUT THE SENATE CONTRACTORS CALLED THE ISSUE OF THE ALLEGEDLY DELETED FILES A MOOT POINT AT THIS MOMENT, AND THEY WENT ON TO JUST LAY OUT WHAT COMES NEXT FOR THIS PROCESS, TURNS OUT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS TED FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THE COUNTING OF BALLOTS IS DUE TO RESTART NEXT WEEK AND CONTINUE THROUGH PROBABLY THE END OF JUNE.
>> YEAH, AND AT THE SAME MEETING, SENATE PRESIDENT FAN SAID THAT THE PREVIOUS DATA YOU DESCRIBED WITH THE MARICOPA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THAT THE BOARDS WORDS WERE HURTFUL AND THAT SHE TRIED TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS ISN'T PERSONAL.
I DON'T THINK THAT QUITE GOT ACROSS.
>> NO, I THINK THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND RECORDER RICHARD ALL MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY ARE TAKING THIS QUITE PERSONALLY.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF SHREDDING BALLOTS, OF RIGGING ELECTIONS, OF BURNING DOWN CHICKEN FARMS AND MOST RECENTLY DELETING FILES AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS THE SENATE'S CONTRACTOR INSISTS, KEEPS USE IN THE WORD DELETED EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE ELSE FEET THE EXPLANATION MAKES IT CLEAR YOU WERE LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACE AND HADN'T FIGURED THIS HARD DRIVE CORRECTLY.
WHEN I ASKED SENATE PRESIDENT FAN IF THE FILES OF DELETED, HE STANDS BY THE STATEMENT IT WAS GOING TO BE REFERRED TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR ATTORNEY GENERAL, HE SAID WE WERE NOT ACCUSING ANYONE OF WRONGDOING, WE JUST WANTED QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
IT'S HARD TO SQUARE THOSE STATEMENTS, THAT FILES WERE DELETED BUT THERE WAS NO WRONGDOING.
>> THIS WAS TUESDAY.
LET'S GO TO WEDNESDAY.
THEY GOT SECRETARY OF STATE KATY HOBBS.
SHE FLAT OUT SAYS THIS IS NOT AN AUDIT.
I THINK SHE CALLED IT A FUNDRAISING STUNT.
>> YEAH, THE SECRETARY OF STATE UNDERSCORED ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE SEEN CIRCLING AROUND THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS THAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE TIME A LOT OF PEOPLE JUMPING INTO RAISE MONEY OFF OF IT.
IN SOME IN TO ANSWERS, REALLY PROMINENT ALLIES OF FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, DONATE TO HELP FUND THE AUDIT.
YOU'VE SEEN SOME LEGISLATORS JUMPING IN ON THIS, THE STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY, APPEALING FOR HELP TO KEEP THE AUDIT GOING.
IT'S BECOME A BIG SORT OF FUNDRAISING LINE FOR PEOPLE, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S POINT WAS THAT WAS REALLY JUST TO ARGUE HOW MUCH OF THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE JUST LATCHING ON NOT FOR THE SAKE OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE AND YOU HAD DUTY BUT RATHER TO BOOST THEIR OWN PROFILES OR BOOST THEIR OWN CAMPAIGN WAR CHEST, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
>> YEAH, AND THEN THURSDAY, WE'RE GOING DAY BY DAY, EVERY DAY THERE WAS SOMETHING.
THURSDAY, SECRETARY OF STATE COMES OUT AGAIN AND SENDS A LETTER TO MARICOPA COUNTY SAYING ALL THAT EQUIPMENT THEY'VE BEEN FONDLING AND HANDLING AND DOING WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING, WE MAY NEED TO DECERTIFY THAT FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS.
>> I COVER THIS AUDIT EVERY DAY, THURSDAY WE FOUND OUT THAT SECRETARY HOBBS SAYS BASICALLY THESE 300 SOMETHING MACHINES ARE GOING TO BE UNUSABLE AND IF THE COUNTY TRIES TO USE THEM, SHE WILL MOVE TO DESTROY THEM BECAUSE THE COMPANY THAT'S BEEN LOOKING INTO THEM HAVE NO CERTIFICATIONS AND THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY HAS BEEN BROKEN, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN DONE TO THE MACHINES.
THE CAMERAS DON'T INCLUDE THAT.
SHE SAID YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GET NEW MACHINES, I'LL MOVE TO CERTIFIED THEM WHICH COULD COST A LOT OF MONEY.
KAREN FAN SIGNED AND INDEMNIFICATION AGREEMENT THAT THE SENATE AND STATE WILL PAY FOR NEW EQUIPMENT IF NEED AS A RESULT OF THIS AUDIT, SO THIS COULD BE POTENTIALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
>> SOMETHING, A SIMILAR TYPE OF QUOTE UNQUOTE AUDIT HAPPENED IN PENNSYLVANIA AND THAT EQUIPMENT WAS COMPROMISED.
>> FULTON COUNTY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE STATE, THE LEAST POPULACE COUNTY IN PENNSYLVANIA AND WAKE TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, ONE OF THE FOUR COMPANIES PART OF AUDIT TEAM CONDUCTED AN AUDIT AFTER THE ELECTION, LATE LAST YEAR, EARLY THIS YEAR, IT'S AN UNCREDITED AND DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS WHICH PROVIDES THE MACHINES SAID YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THESE MACHINES ANYMORE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DONE TO THEM AND THEY HAD TO SPEND $20,000 TO RENT NEW MACHINES BECAUSE THEY LET WAKE DO THIS.
WE DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THESE OTHER COMPANIES.
THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH FOCUS ON CYBER NINJAS.
THERE'S OTHER COMPANIES.
THE COMPANY IN PENNSYLVANIA, THIS WASN'T SOMETHING THE COUNTY COMMISSION DECIDED TO SELECT THIS COMPANY, HEY WE WANT TO YOU LOOK AT OUR ELECTION.
THIS WAS A LEGISLATOR WHO'S A PROMINENT STOP THE STEAL ACTIVIST AND ADVOCATE SAID WE WANT YOU TO AUDIT THIS AND THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.
>> OBVIOUSLY WE COULD BE HERE FOR WEEKS ON END IF NOT MONTHS HERE, BUT IS THERE ANY -- ARE YOU SENSING ANY MOVEMENT, ARE YOU SENSING SUBPOENAS COMING OUT?
ARE WE GOING TO SEE COUNTY SUPERVISORS IN JAIL LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT A WHILE BACK OR IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF THIS THING JUST QUIETLY GOING AWAY?
>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT QUIETLY, BUT I AM STRUCK THAT YOU DON'T EVEN REALLY SEE MORE OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM REPUBLICAN COUNTY OFFICIALS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW A FEW REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
I AM STRUCK THAT YOU REALLY DON'T SEE ANY PROSPECT OF ANYONE STOPPING TO DO MUCH OF ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
IF THEY'RE SO CONCERNED, IT DOESN'T SEEM ANYONE IS POISED TO GO TO COURT TO STOP THIS AT THE MOMENT OR TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO EXERT MORE POLITICAL PRESSURE TO BRING IT TO AN END.
THE FACT IS, CYBER NINJAS SAY THEY EXPECT TO BE AT THE COLISEUM AT LEAST OR UP UNTIL THE END OF JOHN AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
I DON'T SEE, YOU KNOW, THE COURTS TAKING ACTION.
I DON'T SEE THE GOVERNOR SPEAKING OUT.
I DON'T SEE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SPEAKING OUT ON THIS.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FEW MORE WEEKS TO GO WITH THAT.
>> JEREMY, BEFORE WE GO, WE'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED STATE BUDGET.
OBVIOUSLY FAR FROM A DONE DEAL HERE, BUT SOME NUMBERS ARE OUT.
SOUNDS LIKE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS AND THE GOVERNOR AGREE IN PART ON A VARIETY OF THINGS INCLUDING A FLAT TAX.
TRUE?
>> SURE, THIS IS THE BIGGEST FEATURE HAVE THE BUDGETS WOULD TAKE OUR INCOME TAX RATES, 2.59% TO 4.95 NOT COUNTING THE SURCHARGE FOR THE HIGHEST EARNERS, FROM A 2.5% FLAT TAX, EXPECT TO COST THE STATE $1.5 BILLION IN REVENUE ONCE FULLY IMPLEMENTED.
AN INTERESTING FEATURE REWARDING PROP 208, THE SURCHARGE, IF YOU MAKE OVER $250,000 A YEAR AS AN INDIVIDUAL, HALF MILLION AS A COUPLE HAS A 4.5% CAP ON IN COME TAXES.
IF YOU PAY THAT IS YOUR CHARGE, YOU'RE NOT PAYING 6% WITH THE 2.5 AND 3.5, YOU'RE PAYING A 1% UNDERLYING INCOME TAX RATE PLUS THE 3.5%.
>> BOTTOM LINE IS WEALTHY GET A BIT OF A BREAK FROM THE PROP 208 INITIATIVE.
>> SURE, THE GOVERNORS AND LAWMAKERS, NONE WANTED 208, THIS GIVES A BREAK TO PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE PAYING MORE UNDER THAT.
>> JUST GENERAL IMPRESSIONS HERE, SOUNDS AS THOUGH THE IDEA, THE PROPOSED PLAN IS OK, YOU DON'T TAX THESE FOLKS FOR 208 AND EDUCATION, BUT EDUCATION WILL STILL GET THE MONEY THAT 208 WAS DESIGNED TO SPEND.
IS THAT HOW YOU SEE IT?
AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAUGHT YOUR ATTENTION ABOUT THE LEGISLATION.
>> A BUMP IN UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE BENEFITS.
THIS HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE OVER THE YEARS AND LAST YEAR, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF FRUSTRATIONS WITH THE UNEMPLOYMENT SYSTEM AMOUNTED IT'S BEEN A BIG REMINDER OF JUST HOW LOW ARIZONA'S CAP ON UNEMPLOYMENT ARE.
THE MAXIMUM RIGHT NOW IS $240 A WEEK.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN THE FEDERAL BOOST ON TOP OF THAT, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING IT, BUT THAT'S GOING AWAY, AND I THINK IT LEAVES THE QUESTION OF WHAT ARE WE LEFT WITH THE NEXT TIME UNEMPLOYMENT RISES.
ARE WE BACK TO PEOPLE RECEIVING AT MOST 240 A WEEK, ONE OF THE LOWEST AMOUNTS IN THE COUNTRY IF NOT THE LOWEST.
THE PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD INCREASE THAT TO A MAXIMUM OF $320 A WEEK, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE HOUSE APPROVED, BUT THERE WOULD BE A CATCH.
THIS WOULD ONLY BE UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WITH UNEMPLOYMENT RATE BEING AT OR BELOW 5%, THE TRUST FUND THAT FUNDS THE UNEMPLOYMENT PAYMENTS BEING AT A CERTAIN LEVEL AND IT WOULD ONLY TAKE THE FACT NEXT YEAR.
IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED THE HOUSE PLAN WOULD BE ONBOARD WITH THIS, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A BIT OF A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE SAW DEVELOP REDUCTION NUMBER OF WEEKS UNDER THIS PLAN THAT PEOPLE WOULD RECEIVE BENEFITS, SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THERE IS A COMPROMISE ON THIS DEAL THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE BUT IT WASN'T A CHANGE THAT A LOT OF LEGISLATORS WERE LOOKING FOR.
>> WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT SOUNDS ALSO THOUGH THE GOVERNOR AND LEGISLATIVE LEADERS, THEY'RE COUNTING ON NEW MONEY COMING IN FROM SPORTS GAMING THING AND INTERNET SALES TAXES TAKING EFFECT, AND CITIES AND TOWNS ARE SAYING WAIT A MINUTE, WE'RE NOT COUNTING ON ANYTHING OUT OF THIS.
>> SURE, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST HOLD UPS I'M GETTING, 16 AND 31 VOTES IN THE LEGISLATURE RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU CUT TAXES FOR THE STATE, YOU CUT THAT REVENUE TO CITIES AND TOWNS.
SENATOR BOYER IS VERY CONCERNED THAT WILL LEAVE CITIES HAVING TO CUT FUNDING TO POLICE, FIREFIGHTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
NOW IF THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE SAYS WE DON'T OF MORE MONEY COMING IN BECAUSE OF MONEY FROM RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, THAT TAX REVENUE FROM THE ON LINE PURCHASES FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, A LOT OF THAT MONEY IS VERY CONDITIONAL.
CITIES AND TOWNS ARE SAYING THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE NEARLY ENOUGH AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES YESTERDAY.
>> GENTLEMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, WE APPRECIATE IT.
UP NEXT, A SUCCESSFUL LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER TALKS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER HISTORY MONTH.
>> IT'S ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER HISTORY MONTH.
JOINING US IS BUSINESS PERSON OF THE YEAR, WHO TALKED TO US ABOUT BEING AN ENTREPRENEUR AND HER INVOLVEMENT IN THE ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER HISTORY MONTH, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU?
>> TO ME, IT MEANS THAT WE GET TO REALLY DELVE INTO THE HISTORY OF ASIAN AMERICANS WHICH HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE FOR A VERY LONG TIME OR CONSISTENTLY, SO IT'S RECOGNITION OF ALL THE WORK THAT OUR ANCESTORS HAVE BEGUN TO BRING US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
>> AND WHERE YOU ARE TODAY AS A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS PERSON, YOU STARTED WITH CAHOOTS.
TALK TO US ABOUT THAT ENTERPRISE AND WHAT YOU GOT GOING NOW.
>> SURE.
CAHOOTS IS A CO WORKING SPACE, WE'RE REALLY MORE OF AN ENTREPRENEUR CENTER.
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO START A BUSINESS, IS THINKING ABOUT STARTING A BUSINESS, EXPLORING THAT OR GROWING A BUSINESS, WE'RE KIND OF THE WELCOME MALT FOR ENTREPRENEURSHIP, ANYTHING FROM STARTING TO GROWING AND SCALING.
WE HAVE OFFICE SPACES, WE DO A LOT OF ENTREPRENEUR EDUCATION AND SMALL, EDUCATION AND THEN NETWORK RESOURCES, ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO HELP YOUR BUSINESS GROW, WE'RE A GENERAL HUB FOR THAT.
>> YOU STARTED, YOU HELPED START THIS, IS THIS YOUR BABY OR WAS IT A CO CREATOR?
>> YEAH, IT'S MY BABY, FOUNDED IT IN 2010.
CO WORKING IS A PRETTY COMMON THING NOW, JUST SHARED REAL ESTATE, BUT I BUILT IT WITH THE GOAL OF HELPING ENTREPRENEURS REALLY BE ABLE TO GROW.
I COME FROM A FAMILY OF ENTREPRENEURS OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND JUST SAW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO REALLY FIND THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED TO GROW WHEN YOU'RE NOT CONNECTED TO THESE DEEP NETWORKS OR DON'T HAVE -- DON'T COME FROM GENERATIONAL WEALTH WHERE BE A EXPERT CPA YOU CAN JUST CALL TOMORROW THAT'S A FAMILY MEMBER, SO THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY ARE ROOTED IN IS HELPING OUR UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITY AS WELL AS ENTREPRENEURS THAT ARE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
>> IT'S INTERESTING YOU BRING UP YOUR FAMILY.
DID YOU ALWAYS GROWING UP SEE YOURSELF AS A BUSINESS PERSON?
WHAT DID YOU SEE YOURSELF DOING?
>> NOT AT ALL.
MY PARENTS TOLD ME NEVER TO BECOME AN ENTREPRENEUR, BECAUSE ENTREPRENEURSHIP WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THEIR RESTAURANT WAS NOT THE GLORIFIED THING WE SEE TODAY.
I ONLY KNEW ENTREPRENEURSHIP AS LIKE THE HARDEST WORK YOU COULD EVER CHOOSE TO DO.
FOR THEM IT WASN'T REALLY A CHOICE AND SO THEY ALWAYS TOLD US TO GO TO SCHOOL, GET A DEGREE AND THEN GO GET A NORMAL JOB AND LIVE OUT THE REST OF OUR LIVES THAT WAY.
BUT IT CHANGED IN THE LAST RECESSION, IN 2009 WHEN I LOST MY JOB, ITSELF ALSO A JOURNALIST AND ALL OF THE PAPERS AND THE PUBLISHING COMPANIES HAD CLOSED AND SHUT DOWN AND I LOST MY JOB, AND I DECIDED TO GO OUT ON MY OWN AND START A MARKETING AGENCY AND THAT'S HOW LIKE I FELL INTO ENTREPRENEURSHIP, KNOWING THAT I GREW UP IN ENTREPRENEUR SHIP AND HAD SEEN MY PARENTS STRUGGLE BUT THEY MADE IT OUT THROUGH THE END.
IT TOOK THEM A VERY LONG TIME TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT I READS I KNOW THE LANGUAGE, I HAVE A DEGREE, I KNOW HOW TO NAVIGATE IN THIS SPACE, I HAD A LOT OF THINGS THEY DIDN'T HAVE AND IF THEY COULD MAKE IT, I CERTAINLY SHOULD BE AIL TO, SO I DUG INTO IT THAT WAY AND FROM THAT DISCOVERED JUST HOW MANY THINGS ARE MISSING IN THIS PROCESS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE JUST NOT CONNECTED, SO THAT'S HOW IT STARTED.
>> THUS CAHOOTS.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SUCCESS HERE.
PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED AN ANTI HATE CRIME BILL.
I WANT YOUR THOUGHTS ESPECIALLY IN THE INCREASED VIOLENCE OF LATE.
IT SEEMS WE'RE SEEING REPORTS ALL THE TIME OF INCREASED VIOLENCE AGAINST ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDER PEOPLE, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY?
>> IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT OUR LEADERSHIP HAS TURNED SO QUICKLY TO ACTUALLY SUPPORTING OUR ASIAN AMERICANS.
I THINK IT MEANS A LOT, WHEN YOUR HIGHEST LEVEL OF POWER SAYS THERE'S DAMAGE BEING DONE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
I APPLAUD THAT.
I'M GRATEFUL.
DOESN'T MEAN THE WORK STOPS, PUTTING THINGS INTO A PUBLIC PROCESS DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT STOPS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE GROUND, AND SO I THINK IT'S THE START OF SOMETHING GREAT, AND HOPEFULLY WITH THAT COMES MORE, MORE CHANGE, RIGHT, AND WE START TO SEE HOPEFULLY POLICIES THAT CHALLENGE BUT START TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE, AND START TO CHANGE SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT LEAD TO THE ATTACKS AGAINST ASIANS.
SO I THINK IT'S A START AND WE THINK IT'S A GREAT START.
>> SO YOU ARE ENCOURAGED.
>> I AM ENCOURAGED.
I THINK FOR SO LONG, WE'VE NOT SEEN RECOGNITION THAT THIS IS EVEN A THING.
I THINK WHEN WE LOOK ACROSS EVEN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, ACROSS OUR NEWS, IT'S NOT TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT JUST SUDDENLY APPEARED.
IT'S DEFINITELY ESCALATED THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, BUT LOOKING ALSO INTO THE FUTURE, WE KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME THERE'S TRADE WARS OR ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH ASIA IN TERMS OF POLITICAL OR TRADE ISSUES, THE NUMBER OF CRIMES AGAINST ASIAN AMERICANS RIDES, AND SO TO GET AHEAD OF IT NOW, KNOWING THERE'S GOING TO BE CONVERSATIONS AROUND CHINA'S GROWTH AND POWER.
I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE START ADDRESSING THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TO ASIAN AMERICANS, AND SO I AM, I'M HOPEFUL AND I HOPE THAT IT TRICKLES DOWN, RIGHT, LIKE WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS IS IT STOPPING THE VIOLENCE THAT'S HAPPENING TO ASIAN AMERICANS OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO STOP TALKING ABOUT IT AND IT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN.
SO I DO THINK IT'S FORWARD PROGRESS.
NOW WHAT ARE WE REALLY GOING TO DO WITH THAT.
>> WELL, JENNY, CONGRATULATIONS, AGAIN ON YOUR SUCCESS AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE A MENTOR AND A LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.
BEST OF LUCK IN THE FUTURE AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.
WE ESSENTIAL APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THAT IS IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
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