>> Good afternoon, everyone thanks for joining us.

How start today with an update on our COVID-19 numbers as of today we have had 1 million 28 thousand 1 131 cases.

1434 new cases reported since yesterday.

694 people in the hospital and sadly, 13,550 people have died.

Fueled by the Delta variant we've seen a recent increase in cases percent positives and hospitalizations.

We pray for those who are sick.

People we've lost and the ones that they left behind.

The best way to combat this pandemic is with vaccines.

And in positive news.

We've had a new milestone today.

60% of North Carolina adults, 18 and over have received at least one dose of the vaccine.

That's good.

That summer has been uplifting to see so many people getting back to the things they love to do hugging their grand kids taking vacations, gathering with friends going to sporting events visiting their favorite local shops in person.

Vaccinations are making this possible.

While this disease is still with us.

The more people get vaccinated the less it has to affect our day-to-day lives.

Thanks to safe and effective vaccines that are free everywhere.

North Carolina has entered a new phase of this pandemic.

This new phase is marked by a laser focus on getting as many people vaccinated as possible.

It will literally save their lives.

The vast majority of the new cases and hospitalizations are among those who have not been vaccinated.

It's clear that these vaccines work and they're our best weapon to fight COVID-19 and the variance.

For our part state of North Carolina in partnership, but health care providers community groups and faith organizations, we'll keep pulling out all the stops to get more people vaccinated.

I've been able to visit vaccine sites all across our state and I'm grateful for the staff and volunteers who are making it easy to get vaccinated in some places you don't even have to get out of your car to get a shot.

As we enter this new phase.

The current executive order will expire at the end of the month.

Although we will no longer have a statewide mask mandate.

We expect people to be smart follow public health guidance and do what works.

And today we are releasing strong protocols for schools as they plan for the year ahead.

Local school districts should continue to protect students and staff by requiring masks and testing is outlined in the guidance that doctor Mandy Cohen we'll be explaining in a minute.

The most important work our state will do next month is getting all of our children back into classrooms safely for in-person learning that's the best way for them to learn.

And we want their school days to be as close to normal as possible, especially after the you're of disruption.

They just had.

Many students can get their shots because children under 12 can't be vaccinated yet.

We all need to work together to keep our younger children in the classroom and safe.

One way to protect them is to get vaccinated yourself.

If you're eligible.

You get your first shot today.

You can be fully protected by the start of the school year and less likely to infect your job.

We also know from extensive research that the spread of COVID-19 in schools last year was low because students and staff were masks.

The guidance of the 2 kids strongly states that school should require masks indoors for everyone.

Students and teachers in kindergarten through 8th grade.

It also directs schools to ensure unvaccinated high school students and teachers where masks indoors.

Studies have shown that masks can slow the spread of this virus among those who are unvaccinated that hasn't changed.

We know masks work.

The health and safety and ability of our students to learn in person depends on school leaders following this guidance.

Unfortunately we've seen our statewide numbers on cases and hospitalizations on the rise over the last with 3 weeks.

This pandemic is not behind us yet.

We will continue listening to experts as we share health recommendations and the tools that people need to stay safe.

And if the pandemic worsens an additional action is necessary.

We'll take it.

The best way to stop this disease from spreading and keeping our numbers down is to get more people vaccinated.

And we have made so much progress against this virus.

And now is not the time to ignore it.

Even if you have been vaccinated take it upon yourself to encourage others to get a shot.

I'm confident that we can clear whatever hurdles remain and emerge from this pandemic stronger than before.

Now I'd like to ask doctor Mandy Cohen our secretary of the Department of Health and Human services to provide more information about the public health direction being given to our schools doctor Cohen.

Thank you governor.

>> As we head into a new school year our North star remains keeping students in classrooms.

We have learned so much about how to keep our kids learning in person and doing it safely.

Today we're releasing an updated strong schools, public health tool kit aligned with both CDC and the American Academy of Pediatrics guidance.

Which urged that everything possible be done to keep students in the classroom.

They emphasize that with proper safety prevention messed measures.

The benefits of in-person school outweigh the risks in almost all circumstances.

The best covid protection measure we have is vaccination vaccines provide protection from serious illness COVID-19 related hospitalizations and deaths as well as complications from the virus.

Rigorous clinical trials among thousands of people ages, 12 and older have proven that vaccines are safe and effective and more than a 160 million Americans have been safely vaccinated.

With only 24% of North Carolinians ages 12 to 17 fully vaccinated and because anyone under the age of 12 can not be vaccinated yet.

We still have a long way to go.

Schools need to use the additional safety protocols outlined in the strong schools NC public health tool kit to continue to protect students and staff as we enter the new school year.

As governor said the tool kit says all schools for kindergarten through 8th grade should require all children and staff to wear masks.

Indoors regardless of vaccination status.

For schools in 9th through 12th grades school should ensure that anyone who isn't fully vaccinated including students wear a mask.

Indoors.

We've also updated quarantine guidance so that we can keep students in school whenever possible, particularly when proper prevention measures like vaccines and masks are used.

Anyone who is fully vaccinated and does not have symptoms does not have to quarantine after a close contact with someone who has COVID-19 in addition unvaccinated students do not have to quarantine after close contact.

If students were appropriately and consistently wearing masks.

The tool kit includes additional measures for schools related to physical distancing.

Which we've reduced to 3 feet whenever possible.

Testing which is being provided free to schools for students and staff with symptoms as well as testing for screening.

Transportation guidance, cleaning and other considerations are in the tool kit.

Importantly we also took out a number of protocols we now know through scientific research that don't have benefit so that schools can really focus on the things that work.

The updated tool kit reflects the expertise of the CDC.

The American Academy of Pediatrics and our public health experts on how to keep our kids in person and safe in schools with layered prevention strategies.

It's important to note that the need for additional statewide action and changes to the tool kit may be needed over time as we receive new data watch our covid trend and hopefully see vaccinations become available for children under the age of 12 later this year.

School leaders should continue to consult with local public health officials for input to make local decisions.

Now as a mom of 2 elementary age students who are too young to be vaccinated and also attend the wake County public schools.

I know how hard our educators and school staff have been working.

I want to thank North Carolina.

Superintendents the educators and school staff who have worked tirelessly throughout the pandemic to keep children safe.

And learning.

One way we can all show our thanks is doing everything we can to end this pandemic that means get vaccinated right now if you haven't we're seeing the impact of the very contagious Delta variant COVID-19 of COVID-19 and it's hitting those who are unvaccinated very hard cases are up hospitalizations are up the percent of tests that are positive are up and we know that even people who have been mild case of COVID-19 may struggle with long-term effects.

Like shortness of breath or chest pain and brain fog.

Now this moment is different than the last time we experienced rising trends.

Now vaccines are widely available across the state and 60% of North Carolina adults have received at least one dose.

We also know 94% of the cases and hospitalizations we have now are in people who are not vaccinated.

The Delta variant is formidable.

But vaccines are the best way to protect your health.

If you already received a vaccine talk to your friends and family about why you chose to get vaccinated and share your experience don't wait to vaccinate go to my spot that NC .gov to find of a vaccine location near you.

Thank you governor.

Thanks doctor Cohen appreciate all the hard work and collaboration that you've had with our schools with our superintendents across state but state Board of Education.

>> Grateful for that getting our kids back in the classroom full time in-person for instruction is critical.

And this health guidance will help schools do it safely.

Thanks to these safe and effective vaccine we can make sure the darkest days of this pandemic are behind us.

Now to turn the final corner of this disease.

We need everybody to get a shot.

It could save your life.

And the life of somebody you love.

Also with me today is director of emergency management will Ray.

Lee Williamson is our sign language interpreter.

And behind the scenes, Jackie and jasmine that hit here are our Spanish language interpreters.

We will now take questions from the media and the room you guys go to the microphones over there will also probably hit the.

Video for some questions from people who work with us today.

>> Governor Cooper on if you're requiring K through 8 to still wear masks.

Some districts have already indicated that they're not going to follow that mandate.

There's just been conjecture some have gone to vote.

>> What in terms of enforcement or any other steps are you going to take to make sure the mandate is being followed.

>> At the end of this month the statewide mask mandate will expire.

This cool tool kit.

We want to help the local school districts to implement this and we want them to require these masks as per the 2 kids.

We want to give them the flexibility they need.

But also give them all the help that they need to implement this.

>> What they don't implemented.

There's going to be a big push across the state from our office and from others too.

>> Try to make sure that this is in place because we know how important it is to make sure that these children are protected in that teachers are protected.

>> But we know that sometimes things aren't followed from us may be given another situation where there's a state guidance or state mandate in a school district that is funded by the state doesn't follow it.

Will there be repercussions.

It does asking from an enforcement standpoint.

How we say see that play out if a school does not follow this guidance, you know that's been an issue from day one.

>> We all know what to do.

We need to all pull together and make sure we try to get it done.

>> At Mercer North state journal couple questions for you first of all the prevalence of the Delta variant has been steadily growing over the last couple months are you seeing anything or do you know if that's coming from the number of border crossings and those individuals being Buster flown into North Carolina.

>> I don't have any information that that is the case number.

>> Okay, so follow up on that.

Another issue for this upcoming school year that's been the news a lot is critical race theory and the components of that you know being used for teacher trains are being used in the classroom.

What is your position do you think that those components should be used and schools what I think is we need a good teacher in every classroom in a good principle in every school and we need to keep them safe from COVID-19 that's what I'm focused on right now.

So I take that to mean that you lost so us on the from senator Berger's office and >> assuming that passes the General Assembly.

>> I we haven't seen that legislation come from the General Assembly yet.

Thanks governor had 2 questions on 2 separate topics for you we've seen la County.

>> Is mandating masks even for unvaccinated people in the fears Delta variant surge.

Why is now the time to end the statewide mask mandate rather than bring it back in some way even for those who are vaccinated California does not have a statewide mask mandate I've talked to a lot of governors across the country and most states are do not have statewide mask mandate.

>> There is however strong guidance from the CDC.

And from the secretary of Health and human services to say that.

We all should wear a mask in certain places like health care facilities like on public transportation.

We fully expect those entities to require they are there in the best position to require it and enforce it.

And we are expecting those entities to do that as we expect the schools to do it we want to do this in the most effective way and we we are entering a new phase.

Of this pandemic I mean we we've got a lot of people vaccinated everybody can get one.

We need to all work together to make sure this is responsible Ashton Brian Anderson with the A P by the West for yeah I got in in 2018 you appointed us forgive me for mispronouncing see their stunt Steven her stuff on the trail to the Superior Court.

>> In district 16 a.

And we recently reported on a case of him moving to judge the term.

Jail an editor.

After one of his reporters brought in a record or into the courtroom.

I'm curious if you plan on reporting that to the judicial standards Commission.

We asked your office a couple weeks ago and we're still looking for comment for me I don't know that.

>> Fix the situation involving that I know that our courts should be as open as possible, but I do know that the court has certain rules that it can implement implement not familiar with the poll, the facts of that case.

>> Would you encourage courtrooms to be more open and even allowing recording devices so this isn't even a conversation.

>> You know that's something I think we would have to discuss with with members of the barn with judges and others.

>> Yes, Andrea blandford with ABC 11.

I have a question of breakthrough cases we're seeing more reports of breakthrough cases across the country anecdotally do we know how many we're seeing here in North Carolina and in light of breakthrough cases how would you reassure folks perhaps even people who contract COVID-19 in the past that they should still get vaccinated.

>> We are seeing more breakthrough cases in North Carolina since May about 6% of our cases have been breakthrough cases.

The good news is that this illustrates even more.

The vaccines are working because almost across the board.

The people who become infected who are vaccinated are less seriously ill and there's less of a chance for them going into the hospital and dying.

So we know though that this Delta variant is extremely contagious much more contagious than the original COVID-19.

So that his I think contributing to the fact that there are more breakthrough cases that we are seeing.

But that's even more reason for people to get vaccinated would you want to add some dark, okay and in light of the folks who contracted covid in the past to think that they have enough immunity even against the Delta variant which you have a message for them.

They need to get vaccinated.

>> That's it not enough protection to just simply have had covid you need to get vaccinated I have one more question for you just also in light of the uptick in cases that we're seeing we have some.

>> Large gatherings are still taking place coming up tomorrow for instance rally state of the city County and schools there will be several elected officials in attendance, the Raleigh mayor.

What would your guidance be and what do you anticipate changing perhaps in the way of mandates as it in regards to large indoor gatherings.

>> It is so important for unvaccinated people to wear a mask.

That's in the one thing not going to let you dress.

>> So as always we have guidance for our state and today's tool kit is very clear about what we think our schools should be doing.

But I would always say that are we expect that that districts whether its cities or counties really work with their local public health officials to make sure that they are tailoring guidance to what they're seeing in their communities.

And so the city of Raleigh or wake County may want to take the step to say to make recommendations about mask-wearing indoors.

I've said that as the governor said unvaccinated folks should continue to wear a mask, but there's also no reason that folks who are vaccinated shouldn't feel like they couldn't wear a mask absolutely wear a mask if that's something that you feel will be additional protection for U and so we look forward to assisting counties or municipalities and decision making as they go forward.

Thank you thank you.

I apologize for the frog in my throat.

Yeah the questions on the order and then the tool kit also.

>> So with the executive order expiring does that mean the state of emergency is is ending at the end of the month also.

>> I know.

>> It is I mean is that an is a new order going to be in place to extend that are are the restrictions tied to it also the executive order is is extended a little while longer in any event and I'll tell you this, I mean we've just had.

>> Today.

Our highest number of cases and hospitalizations and about 2 months.

We are working with the General Assembly, you know there are number of things that we're able to do particularly in getting people vaccinated.

We we are able to do because we're in a state of emergency.

And there would be some statutory changes that the Legislature could make that would allow us to do those things without a state of emergency.

So we're going to continue talking with them about how to do it the right now the state of emergency will stay in place and you know will who will and we want to end it is as soon as we can but right now it needs to stay in place for the health and safety of North Carolinians.

>> Are there any related mandate.

So when the mask mandate in schools is lifted does that go for public transit and prisons and everything else and that's up to those particular agencies or localities.

Yes.

And then Brooke wait for doctor Khan with a new tool kid the recommendation is through K 8 is that because of just how 12 enough this like half a middle school maybe are some of the middle schools at the reasoning there thanks for that.

Yes we say that school should require masks for K through 8th, because we know already that anyone under the age of 12 can't get vaccinated.

>> And so in in a middle school situation you have a mix of kids who are eligible and who aren't and there's been pretty good research that has been done around not just.

>> Making sure that we're protecting those who have no eligibility for vaccinations but also around bullying.

In in a school and so we actually think it's important for us to include Middle School in this universal mask requirement.

We do feel differently for high school where all high school students and their teachers are eligible for vaccines.

And we want to show that when you do get vaccinated that you are able to to take off your mask and we hope that will be an additional incentive for our high schoolers to go get vaccinated as you heard only about 24% of those ages 12 to 17 are currently vaccinated that's way too low right to that means 75% of most high schools if not more are going to be completely unvaccinated so got to get vaccines.

Number one absolute prevention and if not making sure that folks are wearing masks.

Thanks thanks.

Yes.

Doctor conch just go back to roads open from NC health news with a couple of sort of.

>> Public Health Tech question so the surgeon general Vivek murthy put out a ice it's a director of aren't a statement this past week about misinformation being a public health problem.

So you know what is your department doing to combat this month's information I mean I know political campaigns are able to manipulate.

Yes facebook se things online like what kinds of campaigns are you running.

You know things that you're doing information campaigns and how are you targeting folks who you think might not be getting vaccinated.

>> Rose this is a really important topic about misinformation because unfortunately there is a fair amount out there and I really want to encourage folks to make sure you are getting trusted inaccurate information.

I do want to thank the folks who are are amplifiers you all here the press corps and others who share information and you know actually we had a situation yesterday where some you know and mistake was made with related to some data and actually was was not.

And you know that was an unfortunate mistake and it's already been corrected, but this just shows how quickly misinformation can spread and why it's really important for folks to be getting that accurate information from trusted sources so from dhhs from the CDC from trusted academic sources.

And so we are always going to continue to make sure we're promoting things obviously it's the federal government has much of the responsibility here for these major technology platforms and such and eye up you know applaud them for making sure that they are are helping.

Direct folks to good information and taking down bad information.

>> And then I have a follow-up you know we know we haven't been one of the kind of state system lots and lots of genomic testing how much genomic testing are we doing right now we're seeing right now that 60% of that with the court and the CDC, 60% of what circulating in the U.S. is Delta where are we as a state Tino yeah we actually doing a quite quite a sizable amount of genomic testing and we just got updated information last night from the CDC that that similar to what we're seeing across the country about.

>> 80% of the cases that we are sequencing here are the Delta variant.

So what we are seeing more likely than not if you are getting a case now it is likely the Delta variant Delta has now so basically swamp all of the other types of of covid at this point.

So we are doing that a fairly sizable amount of genomic sequencing both in coordination with the CDC, our own state lab as well as our some of our larger lab partners here in the state and what I would say is covid is here it is spreading quickly, it is more than 80% of our cases I have one quick follow up with the governor.

>> The Senate bill I think it sent a one 73 the free the smiles act would.

>> Restrict school district's ability to >> mandate masks in schools.

It's in conference right now what are your plans to sign it or not.

>> Why it's a bad idea and it's pretty obvious from this to kit that we're rolling out today that we want.

Local school districts to require mask.

In K through 8 and for unvaccinated in 9 through 12 in order to protect.

Educators and students there.

>> Heights Jason Brown with North Carolina public radio really just one question around booster shots, especially as Delta is taking over as you say people are vaccinated are starting to become concerned that even with their 2 shots and being fully vaccinated that they could be at risk with sort of guide to giving are or how are you thinking about recommending booster shots down the road at some point are going.

>> Thanks Jason, it's something we're following incredibly closely and you know this will often be got got governed by the federal our federal partners at the CDC and the FDA.

The CDC Advisory Committee on vaccines in fact is meeting today to discuss this topic specifically related to those who are immunocompromised and are they going to need a boost.

And I think we're using booster as a catchall term for is there going to be a 3rd dose given it or are going to be something else.

So I think there's we're still teasing through that data along with our federal partners and I think what we're saying still is that these vaccines can continue to be incredibly effective that you can see with 94% of the cases are in the unvaccinated but breakthrough cases happen.

And that's why we've we've said before for those who know that they are at higher risk either because they're immunocompromised they're over 65, they have chronic diseases there you put on a mask extra extra layer of protection right now you don't have to wait for a booster.

So wearing a mask indoors, particularly when you're around other people again an additional layer of protection there and then we'll continue to watch the science and the data and work with our federal partners, thank you.

I'm Michael Hyland from CBS 17 I want to ask you first about something you said at the beginning you said if the pandemic worsens an additional actions necessary will take it.

>> What does that mean are you considering reinstating restrictions already what would it take to trigger that.

>> I just want people to know that we are ready to do whatever is necessary to protect the health and safety of people.

We are concerned with the increased that we have seen in our numbers are hospitalizations and people just need to know that all the options continue to be on the table.

Today however we are very focused on trying to make sure we get our children back in school in person as normal as possible.

Try to avoid outbreaks in schools.

And that's what this to kids about steps you want communities that have lower vaccination rates local leaders to be taking now in terms of requiring masks or anything like that.

>> Well I'd rather them focus on vaccinations that is where as we enter this new phase of the pandemic we know what works we know vaccinations are the key out of this vaccinations are better than all of the other prevention efforts that we can take and I would request in plead with community leaders to step up.

Tell people look I've been vaccinated I know it's safe.

We need you to get vaccinated and you know we have seen counties in North Carolina with lower vaccination right have higher outbreaks, particularly of the with this Delta variant here.

So we're in a race really with.

COVID-19 and the Delta variant and we want to win that race and we can win it by getting people vaccinated in the tool kit you all cited both the recent CDC guidance and the American Academy of Pediatrics and why did you all come down on the side of recommending that kids who are fully vaccinated don't need to wear masks.

>> Thanks Michael.

I think we are very much aligned with the American Academy of Pediatrics which require which which recommends universal masking we said that for K through 8.

We want to see universal masking regardless of vaccine status for our high schoolers we did treat that slightly differently where we said, you know if you are vaccinated we want to make sure that they.

>> Have the benefit of the fact that that that is protection and so we did make a distinction there just for our high school students.

>> But I would also say you can see when you read the details of the tool kit there are going to be reasons why certain school districts are going to require universal masking in high school as well we we are very supportive of folks going even further.

I think we wanted to provide that sort of baseline of guidance, but there are multiple reasons, including make it being challenging for some schools to know who is vaccinated and who isn't so high schools may decide you know we have to do universal masking again I told you how low the vaccine vaccination rate is in our 12 to 17 year-old only one in 4 are all vaccinated right now so it's cool may decide no look our vaccination rate is too low.

We're going to universal masking until we can see vaccinations rates come up.

So there's a lot of flexibility in there to go beyond and there's a lot of reasons why schools may decide to do that.

Thank you.

Just one last question and ask was ball, you're speaking governor the nca T put out a statement criticizing the decision you all have made.

>> They called it poorly timed light of the rising cases and the Delta variant I want to get your response to that I'm sorry who won't see the North Carolina Association of educators.

>> I look we we have I think the protocols in place to protect.

Students and teachers.

We put teachers very early in the process and vaccinations to make sure that they are protected would would urge all teachers to make sure they are vaccinated before the school year.

We think this plan is strong and we we look forward to working with school districts across the state.

And before we start doing second rounds in person do we have any.

Collins let's let's take a couple of those first.

>> Our first question from Alexis dollars spectrum news.

>> It's like you can hear me.

We just fall yesterday having a lot of parents that the Board of Education protesting that they shouldn't have to be able to wear masks with their kid should have to wear a mask.

As a violation of their right to live or maybe what is the message to them and and is that the case with these the gesture and you are playing in the cool tool kit.

>> You know masks can save lives in particularly in children who cannot get a vaccination yet because they are.

112 years old.

So it's important for the school district to take this step to protect children and we want to keep our children in-person in school.

And these protocols can be put in place to help be able to keep children in school which is critical.

These mask can prevent an outbreak in a school that would cause.

The school system have to make a decision too central dream home and we really don't want to do that.

Next question.

>> Our final question for today's press conference will be from Kimberly King with WLS.

Mandy Cohen docket for letting me ask a question.

I just like to take a look at the numbers that you have laid out today.

With one in 4.

Aldrin 12 to 17 fully back and the vast majority of patients who are coming down with covid not vaccinated.

Lay out for the public at what point potentially would you could an executive order out.

If at all during the school year.

If you begin to see covid cases climbing for school age children.

>> We're first we want schools to implement this tool kit that we put forward today we're going to work with them to make sure that they get it done.

All options remain on the table.

We know that this pandemic is serious and we're going to continue to keep those options available to us what you want to have anything dot co.

Since you've been patiently standing there all week.

>> For a case not trying to harp on this, but it looks like the onus is going to put on the school board to and to enforce the mask wearing right.

Is that correct.

Okay and I think the fact of the matter is we're getting close to schools, starting and maybe things were different last year explore learning via zoom and all those other things.

There is protests yesterday in wake County about parents not wanting their some of their kids to wear masks in school are seeing districts, I'm trying to ask I mean in terms of enforcement that must have been in discussions so are you going with their be an issue are going to look at funding channels.

Why are there going to be any.

>> Sure I know I appreciate the question and you know I want to start with the fact that I'll say this as a wake County parent I've been appreciative that the schools have worked really hard to keep our kids safe and I know that our teachers and our superintendents they want our kids to be safe in school they want to be in person.

And they have done incredible work to implement these protocols over time with this tool kit what what we're trying to do is focus in on what are the things that really we know work with scientific research and we're doing a lot of things last year and I think we're learning as we go on to thank the folks like the ABC collaborative to get a lot of work to help us hone in on what are the things that really prevent the spread of of covid in a school setting and what it comes down to honestly is is masks.

And a few other protocols and so that is really what our guidance is here for our schools and so yes we're going to work with individual school districts and schools to say take this but we're trying to be really clear to say you should do this.

You should implement these protocols will help you will give you free testing whatever you need in terms of support we want you to do that.

But as I said the law schools want their kids to be in person they want them to be safe and so we look forward to working with them to implement this took it down implemented.

Well I think that's going to work as the governor said if we see that our trends are going in the wrong direction if we see that that school districts aren't keeping our kids safe and they can't be in person learning there we might have to revisit but I think where we are in this pandemic is different than when we entered school a year ago we have vaccines now to protect our teachers to protect those who are over 7 over over the age of 12 and we know what protocols work.

So I think with that knowledge together we're entering the school year in a different place and that's and that's great news.

We just have to keep working together to keep each other safe will keep working with our school district to do this and if we have to do something different in the future as the governor said, we will keep those options on the table.

Thanks.

>> OK guys I got to cut it all thanks to our government.

One worry.

>> I say we're turning the final corner but I've also heard a concern about hospitalizations as a sports fan if we're in a baseball game, I'm just curious.

What inning are we in what inning are we in our code.

>> Yeah as analogy as you get you have to we have to sit down and study that issue we're not I think you guys appreciate it.