[♪ THEME MUSIC ♪] >>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS, OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS, ON ARIZONA HORIZON, TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS ARE DOWN DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT FATAL ACCIDENTS ARE UP.

ON CRONKITE NEWS, ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVISTS ARE CALLING ON MAJOR RETAILERS TO WORK TOWARD ZERO-EMISSION SHIPPING, AND ON BREAK IT DOWN, THE PARTISAN DIVIDE INVOLVING COVID VACCINATIONS.

THAT'S ALL COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS.

>>> GOOD EVENING , AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

ARIZONA TODAY PASSED THE 19D,000 MARK FOR COVID-RELATED FATALITIES WITH 54 NEW DEATHS ON RECORD, AND REPORTED JUST UNDER 2000 NEW CASES OF COVID FOR THE DAY, AND THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS HOSPITALIZEDRY MAINS HIGH AT A LITTLE OVER 2000.

>>> ATTORNEY GENERAL MARK BRNOVICH TODAY SAID THAT COVID-19 VACCINE MANDATE FOR PUBLIC EMPLOYEES VIOLATES STATE LAW, AND DETERMINED THAT THE CITY COULD LOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN STATE-SHARED FUNDING IF THE VACCINE POLICY ISN'T CHANGED.

>>> ALSO, OF NOTE, THE CEO OF PFIZER TODAY SAID A SPECIFIC VACCINE FOR THE DELTA VARIANT IS IN THE WORKS, EVEN THOUGH HE SAYS IT MAY NOT BE NEEDED >> WE ARE DEVELOPING A SPECIFIC VACCINE FOR THE DELTA, BUT MY PREDICTION IS THAT WE WILL NOT NEED IT.

I THINK THE CURRENT ONE WILL BE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE AGAINST DELTA AS WELL.

BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY CHANCES.

>> THE WHITE HOUSE IS HOPING TO GET A PFIZER BOOSTER SHOT ROLLED OUT BY SEPTEMBER 20TH.

THAT GOAL COULD STILL BE MET.

BOOSTER SHOTS ASIDE, JUST GETTING PEOPLE FULLY VACCINATED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IS THE GOAL >> WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE VACCINATED WHO ARE NOT YET VACCINATED.

IF WE COULD GET THEM VACCINATED WE CAN TURN THIS AROUND.

>>> ONE MORE HEALTH NOTE ON THE USE OF CANNABIS BY YOUNG ADULTS.

THOSE UNDER THE AGE OF 45 WHO SMOKE, VAPE, OR INVEST CANNABIS ARE TWICE AS LIKELY TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK.

OLDER RESEARCH SUGGESTS THERE IS AN IMPACT ON HEART RATES >>> AND THE GOVERNOR OF TEXAS TODAY SIGNED NEW VOTING RESTRICTIONS INTO LAW.

IT BANS 24-HOUR AND DRIVE-THROUGH VOTING, MANS COUNTIES FROM SENDING UNSOL -- UNSOLICITED VOTING BALLOTS.

THE NEW LAW IS EXPECTED TO BE CHALLENGED IN COURT.

>>> ARIZONA HAD MORE TRAFFIC DEATHS LAST YEAR THAN IN ANY YEAR SINCE 2008.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBERS WITH MARC LAMBER, PERSONAL INJURY ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM FENNEMORE-CRAIG.

MARC GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

LET'S START WITH THE TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS OVERALL.

THE NUMBER -- THERE WAS A HIGHER THAN AVERAGE FATALITIES -- IN TERMS OF FATALITIES, BUT THE OVERALL TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS LAST YEAR DURING THE PANDEMIC WERE DOWN, HUH?

>> THAT'S TRUE BOTH IN ARIZONA AND NATIONALLY.

IT WAS DOWN BY A QUARTER.

IN ARIZONA ALONE, THERE WERE 5 BILLION LESS MILES DRIVEN, WHICH SHOULDN'T REALLY BE A SHOCKER.

>> RIGHT.

FEWER MILES DRIVEN AND YET FATAL ACCIDENTS WERE UP.

>> RIGHT.

SO THE FATAL ACCIDENTS, EVEN THOUGH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS WAS DOWN, THE NUMBER OF FATAL ACCIDENTS WAS UP BY 7 TO 8%, AND BY THE END OF THE DAY IT IS GOING TO BE LEFT TO CONJECTURE.

BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME OBVIOUS REASONS FOR IT.

AS THERE ARE LESS VEHICLES ON THE ROAD, YOU TEND TO SEE THOSE ON THE ROAD TRAVELING AT FASTER SPEEDS, AND REGRETTABLY WHEN THERE IS A HIGHER SPEED OR HIGHER VELOCITY INVOLVED IN A COLLISION, THE RESULTS TEND TO BE WORSE.

SO I THINK YOU HAVE THAT GOING ON -- I THINK IT'S JUST A NUMBER OF FACTORS WORKING TOGETHER.

YOU HAVE SEEM WHO HAVEN'T DRIVEN IN A WHILE, AND I THINK THAT CONTRIBUTES TO IT.

I THINK THERE WAS PROBABLY A MALAISE GENERALLY SPEAKING OVER THE POPULATION, NOT ONLY IN ARIZONA BUT NATIONALLY OVER THE 2020 YEAR IN LIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC, AND MAYBE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO HIGHER IMPAIRMENT, DRUG AND/OR ALCOHOL USE.

WE ALSO KNOW MORE RECENTLY THAT -- THAT MARIJUANA WAS RECREATIONALLY LEGALIZED HERE IN ARIZONA, SO I THINK IT IS A NUMBER OF COMPETING FACTORS.

>> THE PEAK NUMBERS FOR FATAL CRASHES, WHAT DO WE TAKE FROM THAT?

>> YEAH, TYPICALLY YOUR PEAK MONTHS WILL BE IN THE SUMMER, AND WE JUST FINISHED THE HUNDRED DEADLIEST DAYS OF THE SUMMER, MEMORIAL DAY TO LABOR DAY, WHICH TEND TO BE THE DEADLIEST, AND SO WHY THOSE MONTHS WERE WORSE.

ULTIMATELY SEPTEMBER DOESN'T SURPRISE ME BECAUSE THAT IS KIND OF THE FINISH -- THE CULMINATION OF LABOR DAY, BUT IN TERMS OF FEBRUARY -- NORMALLY I WOULD SEE IT IN JANUARY FOR NEW YEARS.

>> ARE WE TALKING FREEWAYS, ROADWAYS, HOW IS THIS ALL BREAKING OUT?

>> WE SEE A LOT OF IT IN URBAN AREAS, AND THAT IS NOT SURPRISING, BECAUSE IN URBAN AREAS, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN TRAFFIC.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE MAY BE SEEING LESS INJURIES IN ACCIDENTS, IS IT COULD BE LESS TREATMENT.

PEOPLE ARE LESS INCLINED TO GO TO THE HOSPITALS BECAUSE OF COVID PATIENTS, SO I THINK THAT EFFECTS THE DECISION WHEN MOTORISTS ARE INJURED AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR NOT, SO I THINK THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR THE REDUCTION IN SOME OF THE INJURY ACCIDENTS.

>> INTERESTING.

INTERESTING.

SATURDAY WAS THE WORST DAY FOR FATAL ACCIDENTS.

7:00 TO 10:00 PM WAS THE WORST TIME OF DAY, AND EVENING WAS THE WORST TIME FOR ALCOHOL-RELATED ACCIDENTS.

>> YEAH, THAT ISN'T UNIQUE TO A PANDEMIC YEAR.

AS A PERSONAL INJURY LAWYER, I GET MORE CALLS ON A MONDAY BECAUSE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN MORE ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND THEY TEND TO HAPPEN IN THE EVENING.

I ALSO SEE, AND CONTINUE TO SEE A LOT OF DISTRACTED DRIVING CASES.

SO YOU HAVE FOLKS USING THEIR CELL PHONE AND -- AND WHEN THEY ARE ON THAT CELL PHONE, THEIR EYES ARE AWAY FROM THE ROAD AND ON THEIR PHONE.

WE'RE ALSO SEEING SURPRISINGLY LOW -- SO UNBELTED DRIVERS AND SPEEDING DRIVERS.

AND TO ME IT IS UNFATHOMABLE TO IMAGINE PEOPLE NOT PUTTING ON THEIR SEATBELT.

IT DEFIES COMMON SENSE.

AND IT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING EJECTED FROM YOUR VEHICLE, VERSUS BEING HELD, RESTRAINED IN YOUR VEHICLE PURPOSEFULLY, TO AVOID BEING SHOT OUT OF YOUR CAR LIKE A CANNON.

SO I'M SURPRISED THAT LESS PEOPLE ARE WEARING THEIR SEATBELT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MALAISE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PANDEMIC, OR WHAT?

>> THAT'S INTERESTING.

WHAT DO WE TAKE FROM ALL OF THIS -- AGAIN, THIS IS LAST YEAR.

ARE YOU EXPECTING ANY CHANGES FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR?

>> IT DEPENDS ON WHICH MONTH YOU ASK ME.

IF YOU ASKED ME THREE MONTHS AGO, I WOULD HAVE SAID I THINK IT'S GOING TO RETURN TO 2019.

NOW WITH -- KIND OF WHATEVER ROUND WE'RE ON IN TERMS OF THE PANDEMIC, WITH LESS VEHICLES ON THE ROAD, IT'S HARD TO PREDICT.

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK ULTIMATELY, THOUGH, AT SOME POINT, WHETHER IT'S MONTHS OR A YEAR AWAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO WHAT THE NORMAL TREND WAS.

>> FASCINATING STUFF, MARC.

THANK YOU SIR.

>> THANK YOU, TED.

>>> UP NEXT, ARIZONA BECOMES A TRAILBLAZER IN REFORMING THE JURY-SELECTION PROCESS.

>>> ARIZONA IS POISED TO BE THE FIRST STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO ELIMINATE THE PRACTICE TO REMOVE POTENTIAL JURORS WITHOUT A SEASON.

WE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THIS CHANGE THERE ROY HERRERA, AN ATTORNEY FOR THE LAW FIRM BALLARD SPAHR.

ROY HERRERA, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US HERE ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARIZONA BEING THE FIRST STATE -- WHAT ELIMINATING JURORS WITHOUT CAUSE IS THE FACTOR HERE, AND ARIZONA IS THE FIRST STATE TO SAY NO MORE OF THAT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE WHAT WE CALL IN THE LAW AS PEREMPTORY CHALLENGES.

SO THE SITUATION WOULD BE A CRIMINAL JURY TRIAL WHERE THE PROSECUTOR AND DEFENSE COUNSEL ARE TRYING TO SELECT THE JURY, AND THE PROSECUTOR HAS TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO EFFECT WHO IS ACTUALLY SITTING ON THE JURY, WHEN LOOKING AT THE LARGER JURY POOL.

THE FIRST IS THE PROSECUTOR CAN ASK A JUDGE TO ELIMINATE SOMEBODY FROM THE JURY POOL BASED ON THE IDEA THAT THAT PERSON CANNOT BE IMPARTIAL, AND THAT IS BASED USUALLY ON SOMETHING IN THEIR BACKGROUND OR SOMETHING THEY HAVE SAID.

BUT THE SECOND IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WHICH IS THE PREEMPTARY CHALLENGE WHICH CAUSES A PERSON TO BE ELIMINATED FROM THE POOL WITHOUT A REASON.

THERE IS A 1980S CASES WHICH POTENTIALLY WOULD FORCE A PROSECUTOR TO PUT ON THE RECORD A RACE-RELATED REASON FOR A STRIKE.

AND SO THAT IS ULTIMATELY WHAT ARIZONA HAS ELIMINATED >> WAS PREEMPTARY CHALLENGE BEING ABUSED?

IN >> WELL, I'M A FORMER PROSECUTOR MYSELF, SO I HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS FIRSTHAND.

THE IDEA BEGAN AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, AND THERE IS A LOT OF SCHOLARSHIP ON THIS, BUT THE GENERAL IDEA IS THAT THE PROCEDURE BEGAN BECAUSE PROSECUTORS WANTED TO ELIMINATE AFRICAN AMERICANS FROM THE JURY POOL, SO THERE IS A BIT OF A NEFARIOUS ORIGIN TO THIS.

BUT THE IDEA IS IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO STRIKE ANYONE WITH NO CAUSE, IT WOULD ELIMINATE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF COLOR OR GENDER OR WHAT NOT, AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CONCERN.

AND OFTENTIMES PROSECUTORS CAN BE VERY CREATIVE IN DEVELOPING A RACE-NEUTRAL REASON ON PAPER, AND THAT'S BEFORE EVEN GETTING INTO WHAT A LOT OF MODERN SCHOLARS GET INTO IS THE IDEA OF UNCONSCIOUS BIAS.

THE IDEA THAT ALL INDIVIDUALS HAVE SOME SORT OF UNCONSCIOUS BIAS, AND THAT BIAS MAY LEAD TO AL CHALLENGE THAT IS OTHERWISE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

SO THERE IS CERTAINLY THE POTENTIAL FOR ABUSE, POTENTIAL LEADING TO DISCRIMINATORY OUTCOMES.

SO THE POTENTIAL IS THERE, AND THAT'S WHY REFORM ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR A LONG TIME TO GET RID OF IT.

>>> THE CRITICS WILL SAY, AND I HAVE HEARD THIS ARGUMENT MADE IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO DISMISS A JUROR WHO SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

>> WELL, YOU STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK A -- JUDGE TO DISMISS A JUROR FOR A REASON.

I MEAN, IF THERE IS A REASON TO BELIEVE THAT A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL HAS A BIAS, THAT IS USUALLY REVEALED DURING THE QUESTIONS OF THE JURY POOL OR BACKGROUND INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE JUROR, SO THE POSSIBILITY IS STILL THERE TO ELIMINATE THAT.

I THINK IN GENERAL, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CRITICAL OF THE IDEA OF GETTING RID OF THIS IS BASED ON THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE HAD THIS PROCEDURE FOR SO LONG.

WE'RE SO USED TO DOING CRIMINAL JURY TRIALS THIS WAY, AND GETTING RID OF IT IS UNKNOWN TERRITORY.

SO I THINK THAT WILL BE THE CHALLENGE GOING FORWARD, AND IT WILL BE UNIQUE IN ARIZONA, BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, IT WILL BE THE FIRST STATE TO GET RID OF IT.

>> THAT'S INTERESTING.

YOU MENTIONED THE INHERENT UNFAIRNESS HERE.

THE IDEA THAT HISTORY DOESN'T SUPPORT THE NEED FOR THESE THINGS, BUT ARIZONA IS THE FIRST STATE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.

WHY HAS IT HAPPENED NOW, IF THIS THING WAS SO INHERENTLY UNFAIR.

>> WELL, PERSONALLY, I AGREE WITH THIS CHANGE, BUT I'M A BIT SURPRISED THAT ARIZONA DID THIS -- PLEASANTLY SURPRISED I WOULD SAY, PRIMARILY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT USUALLY AT THE FOREFRONT OF CHANGE, PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA -- IF YOU WANT CALL THIS REFORM.

WE HAVE SEE CALIFORNIA AND WASHINGTON MAKE PREEMPTORY CHALLENGES MORE DIFFICULT, BUT NOT OUTRIGHT ELIMINATE IT.

BUT THE SUPREME COURT OBVIOUSLY LOOKED AT THIS, LOOKED AT THE BENEFITS AND DRAWBACKS, AND I THINK MADE THE RIGHT DECISION, AND I THINK EVERYONE IS JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST, AND IF WE HAVE MAYBE SOME PROCEDURAL HURDLES TO GET THROUGH, BUT WE HAVE LESS DISCRIMINATION, THEN IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION.

>> ROY HERRERA, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

♪ >>> IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 20 YEARS SINCE THE DEVASTATING 9/11 ATTACKS.

THIS WEEK WE'RE LOOKING BACK ON THAT DAY.

TONIGHT A CONVERSATION WITH DANIEL ROTHENBERG, CO-DIRECTOR OF ASU'S CENTER ON THE FUTURE OF WAR.

DANIEL ROTHENBERG, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

WE'RE TALKING 9/11, HOW IT EFFECTS US NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

20 YEARS LATER HOW HAS LIFE CHANGED IN AMERICA BECAUSE OF 9/11?

>> THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.

20 YEARS IS MAYBE NOT A LONG TIME IN SOME RESPECTS, BUT IN OTHER RESPECTS IT HAS BEEN AN ATTORNEYTY.

AT THE TIME IT WAS ALMOST TAKEN FOR GRANTED THAT THE U.S. WOULD SEE SOME ORGANIZED TERRORIST ATTACKS ON DOMESTIC SOIL.

AND AMAZINGLY WE HAVE NOT SEEN ONE SUCCESSFUL ATTACK HERE IN THE U.S., WHICH IS EXTRAORDINARY.

YOU ALMOST FORGET HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT IS.

>> YEAH, INDEED.

LET'S TALK ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY AND HOW THAT MIGHT EFFECT U.S. SECURITY.

HOW HAS FOREIGN POLICY CHANGED SINCE 9/11.

>> WE HAVE SEEN AN ENORMOUS CHANGE IN POWER.

WE NOW HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE BORN AFTER 9/11 IN OUR CLASSES.

I ASK ALMOST ALL OF OUR STUDENTS WHETHER THEY SEE THEMSELVES AS A WAR GENERATION.

AND MANY HAVE BARELY THOUGHT ABOUT THE WAR, WHICH IS AMAZING.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT ALL OF THAT MEANS.

AND IN ANOTHER WAY, I THINK THE WARS HAVE ONLY MINIMALLY EFFECTED MANY AMERICANS.

>> THAT'S FROMMING.

BUT SOME STUDENTS DON'T KNOW WHAT LIFE IS LIKE WITHOUT GOING TO THE AIRPORT AND YOU CAN'T PARK HERE, YOU HAVE TO TAKE OFF YOUR SHOES, AND THAT'S EVERY DAY LIFE FOR THEM.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO REMEMBER BEFORE 9/11, IT IS STILL SOMEWHAT UNUSUAL.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

BUT EVEN STRANGER IS WE NOW ALL WALK AROUND CARRYING SURVEILLANCE EQUIPMENT WITH US.

SO IT IS TRUE AIRPORT SECURITY HAS CHANGED, BUT IN SOME WAYS IT FAILS IN COMPARISON TO THE INTERNET.

>> INTERESTING.

THE SENSE OF U.S. SECURITY.

THE SENSE OF U.S.

SUPERIORITY, HOW DID 9/11 CHANGE THAT?

>> CERTAINLY AT THE TIME OF 9/11, THERE WAS A SENSE OF U.S. INVINCIBILITY.

OBVIOUSLY THE WAYS IN WHICH THE -- THE INTERVENTIONS, PARTICULARLY IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN DOESN'T MAKE THE U.S. LOOK SO ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.

AND NEITHER OF THOSE CONFLICTS WAS A QUESTION OF U.S. POWER, AND YET, IF ANYTHING, IT REVEALS EXTRAORDINARY U.S. POWER.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE, THE U.S. DID NOT REALLY KNOW WHAT ITTING WANTED IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE WORLD, AND WAS UNABLE TO ACHIEVE AT LEAST SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WERE LAID OUT.

>> SPEAKING OF POLITICS DID 9/11 MAKE US AN ANGRIER OR MORE DIVIDED NATION?

>> THAT IS DIFFICULT TO ANSWER.

IT CERTAINLY HAS MADE OUR COUNTRY A MORE FEARFUL PLACE.

IT IS HARD TO REMEMBER HOW THINGS WERE, BUT THERE USED TO BE A COLOR-CODED SYSTEM, AND THERE WAS A SENSE OF IMPENDING DANGER FROM TERRORISM.

THAT HAS TURNED OUT TO NOT BE THE DANGER THAT IT USED TO APPEAR, BUT THERE ARE OTHER SORTS OF TERRORISM.

DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

>> INDEED.

>> BUT DID 9/11 LEAD TO THESE FORMS OF DIVISION?

IT IS HARD TO SAY.

BUT INCREASING FEAR AND INSECURITY OFTEN TENDS TO PRODUCE FORMS OF ANGER AND DISCORD.

AND OUR COUNTRY CERTAINLY NEEDS A NATIONAL NARRATIVE THAT WILL HELP UNIFY THE COUNTRY.

9/11 PRESENTED THAT VERY TENUOUS SHORT-LIVED PERIOD OF TIME, AGAIN, PREMISED ON FEAR, BUT WE'RE IN A NEW TIME.

I THINK ACTUALLY, PEOPLE TEND TO BE FORGETTING ABOUT 9/11, RATHER THAN SEEING THE ANNIVERSARY AS A MOMENT OF COHERENCE.

>> WITH THAT SAID, LAST QUESTION, YOU HAVE A FORUM COMING UP, REDEFINING NATIONALITY BY 2040.

WILL 9/11 STILL BE A FACTOR IN 2040'S CONCERNS?

>> I THINK IT WILL STILL BE A FACTOR.

WE HAVE THIS MAJOR CONFERENCE, AND OUR THEME IS LOOKING BACK 20 YEARS TO 9/11, AND LOOKING FORWARD 20 YEARS, AND IT IS FOR SURE, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, REGARDLESS ON HOW 9/11 IS REMEMBERED, THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES.

>> DANIEL ROTHENBERG, CO-DIRECTOR OF ASU'S CENTER ON THE FUTURE OF WAR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

♪ >>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS, ON CRONKITE NEWS, HERM EDWARDS REMEMBERS BEING IN NEW YORK AS HEAD COACH OF THE NEW YORK JETS WHEN 9/11 ATTACKS HIT, AND ON BREAK IT DOWN, THE PARTISAN DIVIDE INVOLVING COVID VACCINATIONS.

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