>> Ted: NEXT ON THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF ARIZONA HORIZON, A DEBATE.

WE'LL HEAR FROM THE TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR ARIZONA'S SEVENTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, RAUL GRIJALVA AND LUIS POZZOLO.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE SPECIAL ELECTION 2022 EDITION.

TONIGHT, WE FEATURE A DEBATE BETWEEN THE CANDIDATES WHICH COVERS SOUTHWESTERN ARIZONA ALONG WITH PARTS OF MARICOPA, PIMA AND FOUR OTHER COUNTIES.

THIS IS NOT A FORMAL EXERCISE BUT AN OPEN EXCHANGE OF IDEAS, FOR GIVE AND TAKE BETWEEN CANDIDATES FOR ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT OFFICES.

DIALOGUE IS ENCOURAGED PROVIDED ALL SIDES FET A FAIR GET A FAIR SHAKE.

LATER, WE'LL GIVE CLOSING STATEMENTS IN THE OPPOSITE ORDER.

JOINING US NOW FOR TONIGHT'S DEBATE IS DEMOCRAT RAUL GRIJALVA REPRESENTING ARIZONA'S THIRD CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AND REPUBLICAN, LUIS POZZOLO, A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.

WE BIG WITH LUIS POZZOLO.

>> I'M LUIS POZZOLO.

I'M AN IMMIGRANT AND I'M A FATHER AND A HUSBAND AND I AM RUNNING FOR CONGRESS BECAUSE AS A LOT OF YOU, WE ARE FED UP WITH WHAT THIS GOVERNMENT IS DOING TO US.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN RENOVATE AND BRING NEW IDEAS TO THE TABLE FOR YOU.

I'M A PROUD AMERICAN AND I'M AMERICAN BY CHOICE.

FOR THAT REASON, WHEN I DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS, I DECIDED TO RUN FOR DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN.

THANK YOU.

>> Ted: THE OPENING STATEMENT FROM RAUL GRIJALVA.

>> THANK YOU.

THIS ELECTION, WE SEE PREJUDICE, GRIEVANCE AND THE UNDERPINNINGS OF THE ELECTION AND THE ONE IN 2024 IS CONSEQUENTIAL.

I'M RUNNING BECAUSE I WANT TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY AND I WANT TO RETURN TO CONGRESS TO CONTINUE TO LEAD IN PROTECTING OUR DEMOCRACY AND EVERYBODY'S INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY.

>> Ted: LET'S GET THINGS STARTED WITH QUESTIONS HERE.

LOUIS, YOU'RE.

RUNNING AGAINST AN EXPERIENCED CONGRESSMAN.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN DISTRICT 7, THE BORDER PROBLEMS AND UNEMPLOYMENT, MINING PROBLEMS AND WATER PROBLEMS AND WASHINGTON BECAME A MACHINE AND POLITICIANS STAY THERE FOREVER AND BRING SOLUTIONS TO THE PEOPLE AND PLENTY TO GO AND THEY ARE NOT REPRESENTING THE PARTY OR A BIG INTEREST AND GOING THERE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THE DISTRICT.

>> Ted: IS IT TIME FOR A CHANGE IN THIS PARTICULAR DISTRICT?

>> I THINK ONE COULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN THERE TOO LONG AND MAYBE IT'S TIME TO GET A YOUNGER PERSON THERE AND I WOULD SAY NO.

ROBERT KENNEDY SAID THAT AGE IS NOT ABOUT TIME.

THAT IT'S ABOUT THE MIND AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE CONFRONTING IN THIS COUNTRY IS REALLY, REALLY SIGNIFICANT.

IT'S NOT JUST A QUESTION OF EXPERIENCE BUT THE VALUES YOU BRING INTO THAT.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE SUPPORT ME AND THAT HAVE BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO KEEP ME IN THIS JOB OVER ALL THESE YEARS IS THE FACT I SAY TO THEM IN TELLS OF THE VALUE, MY PUBLIC POSITION AND WHAT I'M WORKING IS, I'VE BEEN CONSISTENT ABOUT THAT.

AND THE HARDEST THING IN POLITICS IS TO BE CONSISTENT.

I'M NOT A APPLY AND DIDN'T JUMP INTO THIS POSITION.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS DISTRICT MY WHOLE LIFE AND MY GRANDCHILDREN HAVE DRONE GROWN UP INTO THIS DISTRICT.

THIS IS WHERE I GREW UP AND WHERE I'VE GIVEN MY SERVICE TO AND I THINK THE PROBLEMS THAT THE DISTRICT HAS ARE NOT SINGULAR AND NOT ONE PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE.

IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY INCLUDING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WHO FAILED TO INVEST ONE PENNY INTO ANYTHING THE DISTRICT NEEDS.

>> Ted: I WANT TO GET INTO WATER AND THE ECONOMY, AS WELL, AND YOU DID NOT REPRESENT THE PARTY, NECESSARILY.

NOW MANY IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE SAYING THE LAST ELECTION WAS IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM CHEATED OUT OF A DONALD TRUMP VICTORY.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> I DON'T HAVE THE PROOF.

I DID A LOT OF BUSINESS AND ANALYSIS FOR BIG COMPANIES PARTNERSHIP DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO SAY YES OR NO.

WE HAVE PROBLEMS?

ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INDICTED FOR BALLOT HARVESTING IN OUR DISTRICT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE IN YUMA AND THEY BEEN INDICTED AND PLEAD GUILTY OF HARVESTING.

HOW MUCH HARVESTING CAN AFFECT AN ELECTION?

I DON'T KNOW.

>> Ted: MOST OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVOLVING THE PRIMARY ELECTION AND WAS THIS IN MY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM GOING TO CHANGE THE RESULTS OF ARIZONA'S ELECTION RESULTS THIS.

>> ITA KNOW.

I DON'T HAVE THE DATA.

>> Ted: HOW DID YOU RIGHT RESPOND?

>> BIDEN IS PRESIDENT AND WON FAIR AND SQUARE AND THE FACT HIS OPPONENT HAS YET TO CONCEDE AND CREATED A BIG LIE, THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE AND DANGEROUS THREATS TO OUR DEMOCRACY, YEAH.

BUT THE ELECTION IS OVER AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THING WE LEARNED IN OUR DEMOCRACY IS THAT YOU ACCEPT THAT REALITY IS THAT OUR DEMOCRACY CAN KEEP FUNCTIONING.

WHEN YOU QUESTION THAT AFTER 66, SAYING THE ELECTION WAS FAIR, INCLUDING IN ARIZONA, TO FINISH TO PROMOTE DOUBT AS TO THE INTEGRITY OF OUR DEMOCRACY IN THIS ELECTION, I THINK IT'S A DISSERVICE.

>> Ted: WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED TO CERTIFY ARIZONA'S ELECTION RESULTS IF YOU HAD BEEN IN CONGRESS?

>> LET ME GO BACK TO 2017, BECAUSE IN 2020, IT LOOKED LIKE IT HAD BEEN A CRIME TO CERTIFICATE FEW THE ELECTION.

CERTIFY THE ELECTION.

ELECTION.

>> Ted: WOULD YOU HAVE CERTIFY THE EVIDENCE?

>> YES.

>> Ted: UNDER WHAT EVIDENCE?

>> A LOT OF FLAWS, ESPECIALLY ON THE WAY THE DATA IS CONTROLLED AND THE DATA IS FIRE IN THE SERVERS.

YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH 40 YEARS IN IT AND I SEE HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY IN MARICOPA, YOU KNOW, IN THE MARICOPA SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE SHARE THE SAME PASSWORD AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN DELIGHT FILES INTO A SERVER.

A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.

IF THAT WAS ENOUGH TO CHANGE?

I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE HAVE PROBLEMS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO, YES.

>> Ted: TOO MANY QUESTIONS, TOO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THE ELECTION?

>> I THINK INVESTING IN A FAIR AND OPEN ELECTION IS WHAT DEMOCRATS AND CONGRESS ATTEMPTED TO DO.

TO INCREASE THE FLEXIBILITY AND THE PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO VOTE.

BUT WHAT WE SEE OPPOSITE FROM THE REPUBLICANS IN THIS LEGISLATURE AND NATIONALLY IS TO RESTRICT VOLTING, TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT AND PUT BARRIERS IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S ACCESS.

AND I THINK THE LESS ACCESSIBLE OUR DEMOCRACY BECOMES, THE MORE CONTROL FEWER PEOPLE HAVE AND THE MORE EXTREME THAT IDEA BECOMES.

THE WIDER THE NET IN OUR DEMOCRACY, THE BETTER IT FUNCTIONS FOR GOVERNMENT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN MAKING SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE ACCESS TO VOTE.

>> Ted: IS THAT NET AND CAN THAT NET BE SO WIDE AS TO INVITE FRAUD?

>> YOU KNOW, THE REFERENCE THAT MY OPPONENT MADE TO JUDGMENT YUMA, FOUR BALLOTS PLEADED GUILTY.

I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THE MOST PRONOUNCED DENIERS ON THE STATE BALLOT OF THE ELECTION OF THE LAST ELECTION, 2020, YOU KNOW, PRETTY COMFORTABLE ACCEPTING THEIR PRIMARY WIN AND THEY CAN RUN IN THE GENERAL.

IF FRAUD IS SO RAMPANT, OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T QUESTION THEIR OWN VICTORIES AND ONLY QUESTION ANYBODY ELSE'S VICTORY.

>> Ted: WHEN DOES ELECTION SECURITY START INTERSEXTING WITH INTERSEXTING WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN AND SHOULD VOTE?

>> I DON'T SEE THIS AS A RESTRICTION.

THE PROBLEM NOW IS WE WANT EVERYBODY TO VOTE.

IF I WAS RUNNING IN MEXICO AND INVITE HALF OF THE PEOPLE TO VOTE AND TURN THE ELECTION ON MY SIDE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE CITIZENS OVER 18 YEARS OLD ONE TIME PER ELECTION CYCLE AND WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT HAPPENS IN THAT WAY.

I DON'T WANT PEOPLE THAT AREN'T CITIZENS VOTING HERE.

IT TOOK ME TEN YEARS TO BE A CITIZEN HERE AND TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

>> Ted: DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANTS THAT?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

ASK HIM.

>> Ted: DO YOU THINK?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

THE WHAT THEY HANDLE THE INFORMATION AND, BASICALLY, SAME THING WITH I.D.

EVERY COUNTRY, SOUTHERN FROM THIS BORDER, EVERY COUNTRY, EVEN THE COUNTRY I WAS BORN, HAVE VOTER I.D.ES.

I.D.

I WAS ABLE TO HAVE A VOTER I.D.

EVEN HAVING THIS ACCENT AND BROWN, I WAS ABLE TO REGISTER IN KENTUCKY AND TEXAS AND HERE.

>> Ted: COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS IS WHAT I'M HEARING OVER HERE AND NEEDED TO MAKE SURE ABOUT ELECTION SECURITY.

>> I AGREE WITH MY OPPONENT.

THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT SHOULD VOTE ARE ELIGIBLE PEOPLE, CITIZENS LIKE BOTH OF US AND THAT'S WHO SHOULD VOTE.

HERE IS WHERE THE ONE-TRICK PONY ENDS.

THE CONCENTRATED EARTHS EFFORTS TO VOTE BY MAIL AND BARRIERS IN FRONT OF PROTECTIVE CLASSES, PEOPLE OF COLOR, DISABILITIES, ET CETERA.

THOSE BARRIERS ARE BEING DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY LEGISLATURES IN TEXAS AND ARIZONA.

WHAT I'M SAY, THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR EVERY CITIZEN IS SACK CROW SACK SACROSACNT.

>> Ted: WOULD YOU VOTE TO COD FIVE ROE V. WADE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WOMEN IN THIS GREAT NATION ARE NOW SECOND-CLASS CITIZENS AND BE SECOND-CLASS STATUS AND NOT HAVING RIGHTS THAT EVERY PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY SHALL HAVE.

THE FACT THAT THIS DECISION LIMITS THEIR RIGHT, THEIR PERSONAL FREEDOM TO MAKE CHOICES ON THE FULL REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH I THINK IS WRONG.

ALL YOU'RE DOING IS RAISING AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERY AMERICAN HAS EQUITY AND YOU HAVE TO CODIFY OPIOID SO ROE V. WADE.

>> Ted: WOULD YOU CODIFY COVID?

>> BELIEVE THE SUPREME COURT DID THE ROE V. WADE.

>> Ted: SO YOU WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE STATES?

>> Y.

>> Ted: YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST FEDERAL ABORTION?

>> YES.

>> Ted: WOULD YOU VOTE AGAINST RAPE, INCEST?

>> YES, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO TAKE.

>> Ted: TIME LIMIT, 15 WEEKS, WHAT WORKS FOR YOU?

>> 15 WEEKS FOR THOSE CASES, YES.

>> WE'RE RESTRICTING TO DISS DECISIONS BASED ON A LAW OF 15 YEARS OLD AND THE SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM WANTS A BAN ON ABORTION AND NOT TO PROTECT FREEDOMS AND TO CODIFY THE SECOND-CLASS STATUS OF WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY.

THAT DECISION SHOULD NOT BE AT THE POLITICAL WHIM OF A SET OF POLITICIANS IN A GIVEN STATE TO DECIDE THAT FOR WOMEN, NO.

>> Ted: YOU WOULDN'T CODIFY ROE V. WADE BUT YOU WOULD NOT PUT INTO FEDERAL LAW ABORTION BANS.

SO JUST LEAVE EVERYTHING UP TO THE STATES?

>> YES, WHAT'S NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION NEEDS TO BE LEGISLATED BY THE STATE.

>> Ted: EVEN IF THE STATE, AGAIN, SAYS NO EXCEPTIONS FOR RA PUSH ERAPE OR INCEST.

>> STATE LEVEL.

>> TED THE POLICIES, HIS POLICIES HAVE DEVASTATED OUR ECONOMY.

>> YEAH.

>> Ted: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> IT MEANS THAT A PROBLEM WITH BUSINESSES.

REMEMBER 2010, WHEN HE WENT TO MEXICO, CALLED TO BUSINESS.

I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU SO PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT ME.

>> DON'T MAKE STUFF UP.

>> I'M NOT MAKING STUFF UP.

>> YOU WENT TO MEXICO.

AT THE SAME TIME, FOR TEN YEARS, FIGHTING FOR 20 YEARS AND TRYING TO OPEN BUSINESSES AND CREATE JOBS IN OUR DISTRICT AND THE WHOLE POLICY THAT ARE DEVASTATING OUR BUSINESSES, CRIME, DRUGS, UNEMPLOYMENT AND BUSINESSES DON'T WANT TO COME HERE AND WHO WANTS TO COME TO DISTRICT 7, WHEN THEY HAVE RED TAPE ALL OVER THE PLACE?

THAT'S A WAY I WAS PLANNING TO OPEN ONE OF MY BUSINESSES IN PIMA COUNTY.

THE INSECURITY IS HORRIBLE.

>> Ted: RESPOND, PLEASE.

>> NOT MUCH OF A RESPONSE.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A LIE.

I DIDN'T ALL FOR A BOYCOTT IN MEXICO.

TRYING TO MAKE THAT FUNNY CONNECTION IS KIND OF JUVENILE.

BUT NEVERTHE NEVER NEVERTHELESS, I TALKED ABOUT IT IN D.C. AND WE DEALT WITH IT AND I HAVE SAID THAT AT THE TIME THAT I WAS DRIVEN MORE BY A GOOD DEAL OF ANGER OVER THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE HERE THAT I FOUND TO BE RACIST, 1070, AND TARGETING A COMMUNITY REGARDLESS OF LEGAL STATUS.

IF I HAD TO -- I SURVIVED THAT AND HAVE LEARNED FROM THAT DECISION.

SOI THINK THE ECONOMIC DECISION INTERESTSDECISIONSIS TO INVEST IN FAMILIES, TO HAVE A FAIR TAX CODE SO THAT EVERYBODY PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE.

I FOUGHT FOR EMPLOYMENT TRAINING AND WE HAVE 20,000 NEW JOBS IN THE DISTRICTS SINCE BIDEN BECAME PRESIDENT.

AND SO I BELIEVE THEY TRIED TO LAYER EVERY GRIEVANCE ON A PERSON WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE SITUATION AND NOT LOOKING AT THEMSELVES AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REPUBLIC PARTY AND THEIR ECONOMIC POLICIES IS EXACTLY THE SITUATION THAT HAS DRIVEN LESS RESOURCES AND LESS ATTENTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

>> Ted: WHAT WOULD YOU DO -- HOW WOULD YOU ATTRACT OUTSIDE BUSINESSES AND HOW WOULD YOU INCENTIVIZE TRADE AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY?

>> I'VE BEEN IN MEXICO TALKING WITH TRADERS AND BROKERS AND TRANSPORTATION AND TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND AND HOW TO INCREASE TRADE THAT BENEFIT BOTH COUNTRIES, TO BENEFIT AMERICA.

WE NEED TO BRING THIS TO THE BORDER AND NOT A FAST-TRACK WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO THROUGH THIS VERY FAST AND NOT INVESTING MONEY INTO THE DISTRICT.

SAME WITH, I AGREE WITH HIM, IF YOU'RE IN CALIFORNIA AND YOU'RE A DISTRIBUTOR AND TAXES ARE KILLING YOU AND LABOR RIGHTS ARE KILLING YOU AND WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ATTRACT INVESTMENT IN OUR DISTRICT AND IT'S NOT HAPPENING.

>> Ted: NOT HAPPENING, YOU'RE SAYING?

>> OF COURSE NOT.

>> Ted: IT'S NOT HAPPENING ATTRACTING BUSINESSES TO THE DISTRICT.

>> LET LOOK AT THE INVESTMENT LEVEL WE HAVE.

IN TERMS OF THE BORDERLANDS AND THE REGION ONE WE HAVE AND THE HUMAN INFRASTRUCTURE GROWTH HAS GIVEN TO IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THAT'S THE PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED AND THE MONEY SPENT IS GOING ALL TOWARD A SECURITY ENFORCEMENT-ONLY MENTALITY WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE REGIONAL NEEDS AND THE COMPREHENSIVE NEEDED.

YOU HAVE UNDERSTAND IT NEEDS INVESTMENT AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

20 BILLION A YEAR FOR DHS AND BOXCARS ON THE BORDER AND SENDING -- JUST TALKING ABOUT A FENCE.

WHEN IN REALITY, THIS DISTRICT, WHO HAS ALMOST THE ENTIRE U.S. BORDER NEEDS INVESTMENT IN THAT REGION AND IT IS NOT HAPPENING AND NOT HAPPENING SIMPLY BECAUSE THE POLITICS AND NOTHING ELSE.

>> CAN I ANSWER?

>> Ted: YES, PLEASE.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I'M RUNNING.

HE DOESN'T GETTING.

HE'S ALWAYS ABOUT DISTRIBUTION AND TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO EARN THE MONEY AND INVEST THE MONEY.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CUT REGULATIONS AND HAVE FREE MARKET MARKET.

IF THE GOVERNMENT STAY AWAY, WE CUT REGULATIONS AND WE DO GRANTS TO HELP PEOPLE TO INVEST IN OUR DISTRICT AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THIS BECAUSE EVERY DOLLAR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING, TAKING FROM SOMEONE ELSE.

>> Ted: TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT IN THIS AREA.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT INVESTMENT.

>> WHEN UP HAVE A CORPORATION LIKE GE, FREE MARK, NOT ONE PENNY AND WHEN YOU HAVE A FORMER PRESIDENT THAT HAS CHEATED ON HIS TAXES AND THE ULTRA-RICH AND UBER RICH NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE, THAT'S AN UPSIDE DOWN SYSTEM.

ONE OF THE WAYS TO CREATE REVENUE, TO INVEST IN AMERICAN FAMILIES IS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY PAYS THEIR FAIR SHARE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL BUT GETTING PAUL TO PAY MONEY, AS WELL.

>> Ted: IS EVERYBODY PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN THIS DISTRICT, IN PARTICULAR.

>> I AGREE IN PART WITH HIM.

I BELIEVE IN CAPITALIST AND FREE MARKETS.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF CHRONNIES.

THEY CREATE THAT SITUATION AND DIFFERENT THAN FREE MARKETS AND CAPITALISM AND SMALL BUSINESSES HAVING THE CHANCE TO INVEST AND HAVING A SYSTEM THAT REALLY HELD THEM TO DEVELOP AND CREATE SHOPS.

THOSE COMPANIES AT THE SAME TIME THAW CAN SAY THEY ARE CHEATING ON THE TAXES AND CREATE MILLIONS OF JOBS A YEAR.

>> Ted: ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S A FAIR TRADE-OFF?

>> NO, WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR TAX CODE WITH THOSE PEOPLES AND CHANGE THE TAX CODES TO -- ELSE THAT TYPE OF PEOPLE AND BY THE SAME TIME, IF YOU'RE PROSECUTING BUSINESSES AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE HARASSING BUSINESSES ALL OVER THE PLACE, YOU FINISH WITH MAYBE A BUSINESS WITH THAT EMPLOYMENT RATE HIGHER THAN SOMEONE ELSE.

>> Ted: I WANT TO GET TO HOW YOU WOULD PLAN TO KEEP, HOW WOULD YOU PLAN TO SECURE WATER RIGHTS IN ARIZONA?

>> THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR AND THE HOUSE AND SENATE WENT ALONG WITH IT AND A FOUR BILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT AND THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY FOR UPPER AND LOWER STATES TO DEAL WITH THIS DROUGHT.

IT SHOULDN'T BE THE BURDEN OF ARIZONA TO BE THE ONE THAT DEALS WITH REDUCTIONS BECAUSE THE RIGHT IS, THERE IS NO REAL CONCENTRATION OF EFFORT AT MANY OF THE STATES IN ARIZONA TO DEAL WITH THIS DROUGHT AND THE ROLE OF CLIMATE.

AND SO, I WOULD SAY THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION HAVE TO TANG TAKE A PROACTIVE ROLE IN DICTATING IN WHAT THOSE PLANS NEED TO BE GOING FORWARD.

>> Ted: WHAT CAN YOU DO AS A CONGRESSMAN TO FACILITATE THAT?

>> I BELIEVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT BE PUTTING TIERS IN ARIZONA WATER.

THE WATER BILL PASSED IN '04 AND IN 2020, HE'S ASKING ARIZONA TO CUT 21% OF THE WATER WE'RE CONSUMER AND ASKING MEXICO TO CUT 7% OR 8% AND NOT ASKING CAREFUL TO CUT 8% AND MAYBE THE CHRONNIES, THEY HAVE A FARM AND I DON'T THINK THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR, SECRETARY OF INTERIOR SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN HOW WE MANAGE.

>> Ted: QUICKLY, WHO SHOULD HAVE A SAY?

>> THE STATE.

>> Ted: WHAT THE STATE DISAGREES?

>> THEY HAVE A SAY IN HOW WE USE OUR WATER AND NOT SOMEBODY IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AND TELLING CALIFORNIA TO CUT ZERO.

>> TO THE STATE AND THIS ADMINISTRATION GIVES SAUDI IMPROVEINVESTORS THE RIGHT?

IS THAT GOOD USE OF WATER?

THOSE DECISIONS CONTINUE TO BE MADE AND SOMEBODY HAS TO STEP IN AND MAKE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS?

>> Ted: TIME NOW FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS.

>> I AGREE WITH HIM ON THE SAUDI SITUATION, YES.

>> Ted: TIME NOW AND GOING IN REVERSE ORDER OF REMARKS, START WITH RAUL GRIJALVA.

>> I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT THIS DISTRICT AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT BECAUSE I THINK WHAT'S AHEAD OF US IS CONSEQUENTIAL AND NOT JUST SIMPLY ABOUT EXPERIENCE AND TIME.

THIS IS ABOUT CAPACITY.

TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES COMING UP AND I'M A LEADER IN CONGRESS ON THE ISSUE OF CONFRONTING CLIMATE CHANGE AND MITIGATING THAT AND ADDRESSING THAT AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND THE STRATEGIES OF INVESTMENT IN AMERICAN FAMILIES AND THE GROWTH OF AMERICAN FAMILIES, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

ON THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION OF DEMOCRACY, VOTING AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOM, IF THAT FIGHT IS TO CONTINUE, I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT FIGHT.

>> Ted: AND NOW LUIS POZZOLO.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CONGRESS TO BE HERE AND THESE ARE TIMES WHERE CANDIDATES DON'T SHOW UP FROM BOTH PARTIES AND I DISAGREE AND YOU AND I LIKE THIS.

THIS IS OUR SECOND DEBATE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

WHEN I GO TO WASHINGTON, I I'M A GUY WHO LIVES THE AMERICAN DREAM FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS AND NOW I WANT TO HELP OTHERS.

IF IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE, THE PROBLEMS ARE BIGGER IN OUR DISTRICT AND I'M A GUY TO GO THERE AND FIGHT FOR EVERYBODY, FOR MORE FREEDOM AND PROSPERITY AND FIGHTING INFLATION, GAS PRICES, BRINGING JOBS TO THE COMMUNITY AND STOP FENTANYL.

WHEN TODAY WE FIND OUT THAT FRIDAY, WE HAVE THE BIGGEST SEIZURE IN FENTANYL IN DISTRICT 7.

ON NOVEMBER 9th, I'LL FIGHT FOR YOU.

>> Ted: OUR NEXT DEBATE IS WEDNESDAY AS WE HEAR FROM CANDIDATES SEPTEMBER 28th AT 5:00 P.M. AND 10:00 P.M. ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

WATCH THIS DEBATE WHERE YOU CAN CATCH ALL PAST PROGRAMMING.

THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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