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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship[♪ THEME MUSIC ♪] >>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS, AN EXPANDED EDITION OF "ARIZONA HORIZON," AS THE U.S. HOUSE VOTES TODAY TO IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
ALSO TONIGHT WE'LL GET REACTION FROM STATE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATIVE LEADERS, AND ON BREAK IT DOWN, THE IMPACT OF IMPOSTER SYNDROME.
ALL OF THIS AND MORE AHEAD IN THE NEXT HOUR OF ARIZONA PBS.
>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."
I'M TED SIMONS.
THE U.S. HOUSE TODAY VOTED IMPEACH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
TODAY'S VOTE WAS ON A CHARGE THIS THE PRESIDENT INCITED AN INSURRECTION AFTER A VIOLENT MOB OF TRUMP SUPPORTS ATTACKED THE U.S. CAPITOL LAST WEEK.
DEBATE BEGAN THIS MORNING WITH DEMOCRATS ARGUING THAT THE PRESIDENT'S WORDS HAVE CONSEQUENCE >> WE KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES INCITED THIS INSURRECTION, THIS ARMED REBELLION AGAINST OUR COMMON COUNTRY.
HE MUST GO.
>> WHAT HAPPENED WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IF EVERYBODY STOOD UP IN UNITY AND CALLED OUT THE PRESIDENT WHEN SHE WAS NOT TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TRUTH, WHEN HE WAS PUSHING A BIG LIE.
WE WILL NEVER HAVE UNITY WITHOUT TRUTH AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
THIS WEEK IN CONGRESS WE SAW THE BEST OF US AND THE WORST OF US.
SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SHOWN THEY WILL DEFEND THIS PRESIDENT NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES.
THERE IS NOTHING HE COULD DO THAT WOULD DISSUADE THEM.
BUT SOME ARE STANDING UP AND DOING THE RIGHT THING UNDER TREMENDOUS PRESSURE, AND I AM PROUD OF THAT.
>> MR. SPEAKER I CAN THINK OF NO ACTION THE HOUSE CAN TAKE THAT IS MORE LIKELY TO FURTHER DIVIDE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
EMOTIONS ARE CLEARLY RUNNING HIGH, AND POLITICAL DIVISIONS HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE APPARENT IN MY LIFETIME.
WE NEED TO SEEK A PATH FORWARD HEALING FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
SO IT'S UNFORTUNATELY THE PATH TO SUPPORT HEALING IS NOT THE PATH THE HOUSE HAS CHOSEN TODAY.
INSTEAD THIS IS A TRUNCATED PROCESS THAT WILL GIVE MEMBERS NO TIME TO CONTEMPLATE THE SEAR OUSZ COURSE OF ACTION BEFORE US.
>> ANDY BIGGS SPOKE TODAY AND HAD THIS WARNING TO DEMOCRATS.
>> YOU BELIEVE YOUR HUNGER WILL BE FINALLY SATIATED BY IMPEACHING THIS PRESIDENT.
YOU SEEK BLITERATION OF YOUR NEMESIS.
YOURS WILL BE A PURIC VICTORY, BECAUSE HIS MOVEMENT WILL GROW STRONGER, FOR YOU HAVE MADE HIM A MARTYR.
>> THERE ARE CALLS FOR BIGGS AND GOSAR TO HAVE RILED UP VOTERS.
>> I KNOW HE WAS THERE AND SPOKE AT THE RALLY BEFORE HAND.
HE WAS THERE CONTESTING THE ELECTION ON THE CONGRESSIONAL FLOOR.
HE WAS TWEETING THE TWITTER PLATFORM VERY DIFFERENT TWEETS, BUT HIS FACT STORY INCLUDES SOME EXTREMISTS.
THAT'S WHERE IT HAS GONE OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS.
THE POINT IN TIME TO REACH MY BROTHER, I THINK THAT HAS BEEN PAST.
I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, THE MOST WE CAN DO AS CONSTITUENTS, AS THE PUBLIC DEMAND THAT THE MEMBER OF CONGRESS INVOLVED BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, AND THAT INCLUDES EXPULSION.
>> BOTH BIGS AND GOSAR DENY ANY INVOLVEMENT.
ROADS ARE BEING CLOSED AND CONCRETE BARRIERS ARE BEING INSTALLED IN A NUMBER OF AREAS, AND THE D.C. NATIONAL GUARD WAS ISSUED WEAPONS TODAY ON CAPITOL HILL.
NATIONAL GUARD PLANS TO HAVE UP TO 15,000 MEMBERS READY FOR THE INAUGURATION.
WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THE IMPEACHMENT, BUT FIRST A CHECK OF THE CORONAVIRUS REPORT.
WE AGAIN LEAD THE NATION.
WE HAD 5600 CASES REPORTED FOR THE DAY, AND ANOTHER DAY OF TRIPLE-DIGIT DEATHS.
THAT MEANS THE SEVEN-DAY AVERAGE FOR COVID-19 FATALITIES HIT ANOTHER RECORD HIGH.
JIM COLBY IS AN INDEPENDENT AND HAS HARSH WORDS FOR THE STATE'S CURRENT REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION.
IN AN OP-ED FOR THE "ARIZONA REPUBLIC," HE WRITES IN PART, THAT THEY QUOTE, TRIED TO SUBSTITUTE THEIR OWN WILL FOR THE VOTE OF EVERY ARIZONA CITIZENS.
WE SPOKE WITH HIM EARLIER TODAY.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
THE U.S. CAPITOL.
THIS IS LIKE YOUR SECOND HOME.
>> IT REALLY IS.
I STARTED 60 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS 15 YEARS OLD AND CAME AS A PAGE APPOINTED TO SERVE BARRY GOLDWATER.
AND I HAVE BEEN AROUND THE CAPITOL EVER SINCE THAT TIME.
COMING IN AND OUT OF A VISIT, DOING ADVOCACY WORK, AND 22 YEARS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
IT'S A LIVING WORKING MUSEUM, IF YOU WILL.
IT EMBODIES THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY, AND ALSO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE, LEADERSHIP, CLERKS, OTHERS WHO WORK IN THE BUILDING, AND IT HAS BEEN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DISTINGUISHES OUR CAPITOL, SO IT WAS A REALLY TRAGEDY TO SEE IT VANDALIZED AND TRASHED THE WAY IT WAS.
>> DO YOU RECOGNIZE THE ATMOSPHERE NOW.
>> THE ATMOSPHERE IN THE CONGRESS IS TOXIC.
IT HAS GOTTEN SO MUCH WORSE.
THE POLARIZE IN CONGRESS REFLECTS THE POLARIZATION WE'RE SEEING IN OUR SOCIETY AND COUNTRY.
AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO COME BACK TO THE CENTER AND FIND COMMON GROUND.
>> SHOULD THE PRESIDENT -- IF YOUR MIND, SHOULD THE PRESIDENT BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
>> I THINK THE PRESIDENT SHOULD RESIGN, YES.
WHAT HE DID WAS IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES, IN MY OPINION.
WHETHER OR NOT I THINK HE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED, THAT'S THE DECISION FOR THEM TO MAKE, BUT THE IMPEACHMENT NOW MAY BE A DISTRACTION FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THESE LAST FEW DAYS, AND TO -- BIDEN -- PRESIDENT BIDEN IS GOING TO NEED TO GET HIS CABINET CONFIRMS AND ALL OF THE OTHER POSITIONS CONFIRMED AND LAUNCH AN AGENDA, AND THIS JUST SEEMS TO BE A DISTRACTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM BARRED FROM HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICE IN THE FUTURE.
>> I KNOW THE DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING AS WE SPEAK THAT HE HAS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE; THAT IMPEACHMENT IS THE ONLY WAY TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THESE ACTS.
DO THEY HAVE A POINT?
>> THEY DO HAVE A POINT, AND HE DOES NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THE SENATE CAN PUT OFF THE TRIAL AND THE TIME IT SPENDS ON IT, UNTIL AFTER ALL OF THE WORK IT HAS TO DO, BECAUSE IT HAS THE BURDEN OF PROOF IN TERMS OF APPROVING THE NOMINATIONS THAT PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN IS TAKING TO SERVE IN HIS CABINET, CIA DIRECTOR, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF POSITIONS THAT HAVE TO BE CONFIRMED, AND THEY NEED TO DO THAT WORK, SO MAYBE THEY CAN PUT THIS OFF FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT I DO THINK THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
>> I HAVE TO ASK YOU, AS A LONG TIME REPUBLICAN, WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE G.O.P.?
>> WE HAVE LOST OUR BEARINGS.
IT IS REALLY VERY SAD TO SEE WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO IT.
THE VERY FACT THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN ARIZONA IS GOING TO CENSURE NEXT WEEK CINDY McCAIN AND JEFF FLAKE, AND THEY HAVE CENSURED JOHN McCAIN, AND DOUG DUCEY NOW IS ON THAT LIST.
THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
NOT CINDY McCAIN, BUT THE OTHERS HAVE WON ELECTIONS IN ARIZONA.
AND IT MAKES NO SENSE.
SO IT'S A VERY SAD TAIL FOR THE PARTY, BUT I HOPE THAT THERE IS A WAY WE CAN BRING IT BACK TOWARDS THE CENTER AGAIN.
>> IN ORDER TO GET IT BACK TOWARDS THE CENTER, THE PARTY WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT GOT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
HOW DID THE PARTY GET TO WHERE IT IS NOW?
>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I'M NOT SURE I HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.
IT GOT THERE THROUGH A VARIETY OF THINGS.
CERTAINLY THE POLARIZATION IN OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN ONLY GOING FOR SOMETIME.
I SAW SOME OF THIS WHEN I WAS IN CONGRESS, AND IT BECAME MUCH MORE POLITICIZED, EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE DOING, AND OUR SOCIETY HAS BECOME THAT WAY.
CERTAINLY THE INTERNET, AND THE TWEETING AND ALL OF THE OTHER PLATFORMS WE HAVE FOR COMMUNICATION, HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS OVER THE YEARS, AND I THINK THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE JUST FOUND THEMSELVES CAPTURED BY DONALD TRUMP, WHO IS GREAT COMMUNICATOR, UNDERSTANDS HOW TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE, AND HE COMMUNICATED WITH THEM AND CAPTURED THEM.
AND NOW THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS REALLY JUST BECOME A CULT OF THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO GET AWAY OF, AND GET BACK TO INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY OF OPEN AND FREE MARKETS OF PLAYING A LEADING ROLE IN THE WORLD.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY STOOD FOR IN THE PAST, BUT WE SEEM TO HAVE LOST THAT.
>> FORMER ARIZONA CONGRESSMAN JIM COLBY, THANK YOU, SIR.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TED.
>>> COMING UP, HOW TODAY'S IMPEACHMENT IS FURTHER SPLINTERING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AROUND THE COUNTRY.
>>> ARIZONA'S DELEGATION IN THE HOUSE WAS SPLIT ON TODAY'S IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HERE ARE SOME OF WHAT THE HOUSE MEMBERS HAD TO SAY.
>> AT A TIME WHEN OUR COUNTRY NEEDS UNITY, IT IS CONCERNING THAT MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES HAVE CHOSEN TO BEGIN IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AGAINST A PRESIDENT WITH JUST SEVEN DAYS LEFT IN OFFICE.
ALL LEGAL CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED.
CONGRESS HAS CERTIFIED LEKER TOS OVER OBJECTIONS AND JOE BIDEN WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID HE WILL PEACEFULLY HAND OVER TO POWER TO JOE BIDEN NEXT WEEK.
I HAVE HEARD MY COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE SAY THEY HAVE TO IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE IS TOO DANGEROUS TO STAY IN POWER.
SO WHAT IS THE POINT?
THIS MOVE SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR OUR NATION.
>> DONALD TRUMP IS THE FIRST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS PUBLIC TO INCITE A VIOLENT INSURRECTION AGAINST OUR OWN GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE.
IT IS SHOCKING.
WE DON'T KNOW YET IF THE PRESIDENT WILL FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES, BUT WE DO KNOW HE MUST BE HELD TO ACCOUNT.
EACH ONE OF US IN THIS HOUSE TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT AND DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES EVEN IF THAT ENEMY IS THE PRESIDENT.
WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> IT IS WITH WARINESS AND A CERTAIN UNHEALTHY MORBID CURIOSITY THAT I WATCH THE BEAST ATTEMPT TO DEVOUR PRESIDENT TRUMP AGAIN.
THE CRAVING TO CRUSH PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS NEVER BEEN SATISFIED NOT THROUGH INVESTIGATIONS, FALSE ALLEGATIONS OR AN IMPEACHMENT THAT WAS WHOLLY WITHOUT MERIT.
YOUR CANDIDATE WILL TAKE OFFICE IN A FEW HOURS, AND PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL RELINQUISH THE LEVERS OF POWER.
BUT YOUR CRAVING WAS NEVER A BIDEN VICTORY NOR A TRUMP DEFEAT.
YOU DON'T MERELY SEEK VICTORY, BUT YOU SEEK OBLITERATION OF YOUR NEMESIS.
EVEN IF YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL TODAY, YOURS WILL BE AN APPARENT VICTORY, FOR HIS MOVEMENT WILL GROW STRONGER, FOR YOU WILL HAVE MADE HIM A MARTYR.
♪ >>> AN INCREASING NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS IN ARIZONA AND AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE SAYING THAT THEIR PARTY IS FRACTURED AND DIVIDED.
"HORIZONTE" HOST JOSE CARDENAS SPOKE WITH ONE STRATEGIST TO GET HER THOUGHTS.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
AN INTERESTING TIME IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY.
THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS NOW DEBATING THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
SOME REPUBLICANS ARE SUPPORTIVE IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE, MOST ARE NOT.
BUT THERE IS A REAL SPLIT.
HOW DOES THE PARTY GET PAST THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO.
I THINK WE NEED TO REMOVE TRUMP FROM OFFICE.
WE NEED TO HAVE THAT RESOLVED AND DEMONSTRATE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WE WILL NOT TOLERATE AN INSURAGAINST ON OUR OWN GOVERNMENT AND OUR OWN PEOPLE ACTS OF VIOLENCE.
SO WE NEED TO REMOVE HIM, AND WE NEED TO REMOVE HIM SO IT DOES QUELL SOME OF HIS POWER.
IT WOULDN'T COMPLETELY, BUT NEUTRALIZES HIM A BIT.
I THINK THE PARTY ALSO NEEDS TO REDEFINE, AND WE NEED TO BE OPENING AND WELCOME TO OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WHO ARE LGBT OR PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND THEN REASSERT OURSELVES AS A PARTY THAT CARES ABOUT ECONOMIC POLICY, AND I MEAN, I WOULD TAKE UP THE FLAG OF INCOME EQUALITY.
I THINK THAT IS THE ROAD FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND IT IS A DIFFICULT ONE.
>> BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, SOME OPPOSE IMPEACHMENT IN PART BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE.
SENATOR McCONNELL WHILE HE HAS INDICATED HE SUPPORTS IMPEACHMENT AS WELL WILL NOT CONVENE THE SENATE BEFORE THE PRESIDENT LEAVES OFFICE, SO HE IS NOT GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE, AND THEREFORE PROCEEDING UNDER IMPEACHMENT DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH MUCH EXCEPT TO FURTHER DIVIDE THE PARTIES AND THE COUNTRY.
>> WE HAVE GOT TO NEUTRALIZE HIS ABILITY, HOWEVER, TO COME BACK INTO ELECTED OFFICE, AND EVEN THOUGH THE TIMING DOESN'T WORK OUT, HOWEVER, THERE ARE MOMENTS IN HISTORY WHERE YOU NEED TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHO THE REAL LEADERS ARE.
>> CAN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RECOVER FROM THIS.
THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS FROM THE CONGRESSWOMAN FROM NEW JERSEY WHO SAID SHE SAW SOME MEMBERS OF CONGRESS COMING IN IN RECOGNIZANCE.
>> ONE THING I WILL SAY IS I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SEE A MAX EXODUS FROM THE PARTY.
WE'LL SEE PEOPLE REREGISTERING, AND WHAT WE ALREADY SAW IN THIS ELECTION IS THE FACT THAT THE BALLOT WAS REALLY FLUID.
SO PEOPLE LIKE ME WERE WILLING TO SAY, I ABSOLUTELY WILL VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT.
I WILL VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN AT TIMES BUT SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT DERANGED, AND SO WE'RE COMPETITIVE.
IF WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT SILVER LINING COMES OUT OF THIS, WE'RE COMPETITIVE, AND WE'RE WILLING TO CROSS OVER POLITICAL AISLES AND IDEOLOGIES TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY.
IT REALLY IS A COUNTRY-FIRST MOVEMENT IF WE CAN GET THIS RIGHT.
>> WHEN YOU SAY PEOPLE LIKE ME, YOU MEAN MODERATE REPUBLICANS SUCH AS YOURSELF.
YOU HAVE BEEN A COMMITTEE CHAIRWOMAN AT TIMES, BUT HERE IN ARIZONA -- AND AGAIN, THERE APPEARS TO BE A SPLIT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
CAN IT BE HEALED, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE RESOLUTIONS PLANNED TO CONDEMN CINDY McCAIN.
>> I THINK IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THIS IS THE END OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS WE KNOW IT.
BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE GOING TO SEE A MASS EXODUS.
>> AND WHAT ABOUT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY?
JUST EARLIER THIS WEEK, GREATER PHOENIX LEADERSHIP, WHICH IS COMPOSED OF THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICERS OF THE MAYOR BUSINESSES AND REALLY ALL SIZE BUSINESSES ACROSS MARICOPA COUNTY, TOOK OUT A FULL-PAGE AD DENOUNCING THE HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND ALSO ATTACKING THE MEMBERS OF OUR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION IF IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT NAY SAY, QUOTE, STOKED THE FLAMES OF THIS TRAVESTY.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK IT IS A GREAT THING.
IT IS SHOWING LEADERSHIP.
BECAUSE IT IS BEYOND IDEOLOGY AND IDENTITY POLITICS.
THIS IS ABOUT HATE SPEECH.
THIS IS ABOUT STOKING THE FLAMES OF VIOLENCE, AND OUR LEADERS IN OUR CORPORATIONS -- THE FACT THAT THEY ARE HAVING THE GUTS TO DO THIS, KNOWING IT MIGHT ANGER SOME CONSUMERS, THIS IS THE KIND OF SOCIAL GOVERNANCE THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO BE A MORE PERFECT UNION, AND LEARN HOW TO RESPECT PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH US.
>> LEADERSHIP FOLKS GO ON TO SAY THAT MOST OF THE MEMBERS WILL NO LONGER SUPPORT THE PARTY AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY REFERENCED FINANCIALLY, OR THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT THOSE PEOPLE FINANCIALLY, UNTIL THEY SEE A CHANGE.
IS THAT LIKELY TO HAPPEN?
OR IS THE STRENGTH OF THE TRUMP PARTY SUCH THAT THE HEAD OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HERE AND THOSE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO CHALLENGED THE ELECTION REALLY DON'T CARE, AND WILL NOT BE EFFECTED?
>> OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE A FACTION THAT DOESN'T CARE, BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.
WE HAVE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE LONG GAME.
WE HAVE GOT TO THINK ABOUT OUR FUTURE, SO IT'S LESS IMMEDIATE EVEN THOUGH IN THE IMMEDIATE IT MAY SEEM LIKE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR DEMOCRACY THAT ARE IN POWER.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE'LL BE JUDGED BY HISTORY, AND HISTORY WILL DETERMINE WHETHER WE STOKED VIOLENCE, OR UNIFIED LEADERS THAT TRIED TO UPHOLD THE PILLARS OF OUR DEMOCRACY.
THIS IS OUR CHANCE, AGAIN, ANOTHER SILVER LINING, FOR A CENTRIST MOVEMENT RATHER THAN FRINGE WITHIN THE PARTY.
OUR DEMOCRACY IS SET UP FOR A TWO-PARTY SYSTEM RIGHT NOWING.
HOWEVER, IS THIS A OPPORTUNITY FOR A CENTRIST MOVEMENT WHERE IT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO CROSS PARTY LINES.
>> ON THAT NOTE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU, JOSE.
>>> AND OF COURSE WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS AS IT MAKES ITS WAY TO THE SENATE IN THE COMING DAYS.
STAY WITH US, COMING UP IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR OF ARIZONA PBS, WE GET REACTION FROM REPUBLICAN LEADERS ON THE GOVERNOR'S STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS.
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