[♪ THEME MUSIC ♪] >>> WELCOME BACK AS WE CONTINUE OUR EXTENDED EDITION OF "ARIZONA HORIZON."

THE GOVERNOR'S STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS DELIVERED MONDAY CENTERED ON RESILIENCE IN THE TIME OF THIS PANDEMIC.

HE SPOKE ON VACCINE DISTRIBUTION AND HIS HOPE TO REOPEN SCHOOLS.

WE GOT REACTION TO THE SPEECH FROM THE LEGISLATURE'S LEADING REPUBLICANS KAREN FAN AND RUSTY BOWERS.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US TODAY.

PRESIDENT WE'LL START WITH YOU.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE GOVERNOR'S STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS.

>> WELL, AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THESE CHALLENGING TIMES, I KNOW HE HAD TO KEEP IT AS GENERAL AS POSSIBLE, HOWEVER, HE DID STICK TO HIS MESSAGE, THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP TAXES DOWN LOW, THAT WE KEEP THE ECONOMY STRONG.

WE KEEP OUR SCHOOLS STRONG, AND OF COURSE COVID-19 WHICH IS A HUGE ISSUE, THAT WE CONTINUE TO BATTLE THIS AND GET US BACK TO WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE NORMAL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> SPEAKER WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SPEECH?

>> I THINK KAREN HIT IT RIGHT.

HE STAYED GENERAL IN SPECIFICITY, AND SO THAT GIVES US A -- A -- A DEGREE OF FLEXIBILITY AS WE TRY TO RESPOND POLICY WISE IN -- IN THE ARENA.

THE BIG CHALLENGE, OF COURSE, COVID FACING US ALL.

IT IMPACT ON FAMILIES.

EDUCATION BEING IMPACTED, PROBABLY MOST FAMILIES FEEL THAT AS A BREADTH ACROSS THE STATE MORE THAN ANY OTHER, GETTING KIDS BACK IN A SCHOOL SOCIAL SITUATION IS WHERE REAL LEARNING TAKES PLACE, AND WE ALL ARE DEALING WITH IT AS BEST WE CAN, BUT IT HAS TAUGHT A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE CAN USE TO GET AN EDUCATION AND -- AND THEY WANT THEM.

THEY -- THEY ARE LEARNING THAT THERE IS A BREADTH OUT THERE.

>> PRESIDENT, HE ISN'T REALLY MENTION EXECUTIVE POWER.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE THAT ISSUE ADDRESSED THIS SESSION?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE GOVERNOR WAS BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE, AND HE STILL IS.

IT'S A NO-WIN SITUATION FOR ANY GOVERNOR.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT OUR VOTERS, OUR CITIZENS OF ARIZONA, AND MUCH LESS CITIZENS FROM ALL 50 STATES, WHEN WE SET EMERGENCY ORDERS IN PLACE, WE EXPECT IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT LASTS A SHORT PERIOD, A FLOOD, A 9/11, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GIVE THE EXECUTIVE POWERS, TWO, THREE, MAYBE FOUR WEEKS TO PROTECT LIVES, SO CONSEQUENTLY, I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT, AND SAY MAYBE THAT EMERGENCY POWER IS FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, AND LET THE LEGISLATURE WORK WITH THE GOVERNOR ON HOW LONG IT SHOULD BE EXTENDED.

>> THE GOVERNOR SAID THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, IT INVOLVES EMERGENCY POWERS.

WILL THIS BE ADDRESSED IN THE SENATE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I WAS WORKING WITH ONE OF OUR MEMBERS WHO WAS VERY ENERGIZED AS ARE MANY OTHERS ON THE ISSUE, AND WE -- WE WHITE BOARDED THROUGH THE SUMMER -- HAD A WHITE BOARD THAT WE WOULD PUT UP IDEAS WHERE -- WHAT THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE IS IN A GUBERNATORIAL LEGISLATIVE RELATIONSHIP IN EMERGENCIES, AND I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THE PRESIDENT'S SHORT-TERM ASSESSMENT, BUT AT THE END OF 30 DAYS, I THINK WE SHOULD BE IN.

SO HE CALLS US IN, AND IF EMERGENCY LASTS 30 DAYS, WE'LL BE IN, AND WE'LL FAN OUT -- NO PUN INTENDED PRESIDENT -- [ LAUGHTER ] >> TO DETERMINE IMPACTS ON THE PEOPLE AND GET MORE IMPACT ON HOW WE MIGHT RESPOND.

SHORTING VOTER TIMES.

LOWER VOTING RATIOS, THERE'S LOTS OF IDEAS ON THE TABLE.

>> PRESIDENT HE ALSO DID NOT MENTION STATE ELECTION LAWS.

DO YOU WANT THAT ISSUE ADDRESSED, AND IF SO, WHY?

BECAUSE SO FAR EVERY QUESTION THAT HAS GONE BEFORE A COURT REGARDING FRAUD AND PROBLEMS, THEY HAVE BASICALLY BEEN TOSSED.

I KNOW YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE ELECTION OF OFFICIALS AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, BUT WHY IS THERE SO MUCH EMPHASIS ON ELECTION LAWS WHEN THERE WAS NO FRAUD FOUND?

>> THANK YOU.

IT IS IMPORTANT.

AND THE REASON WHY IT IS IMPORTANT, FOR WHATEVER REASON THE -- THE INTEGRITY, OR THE FAITH IN OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM, NOT JUST IN ARIZONA, BUT IN MANY STATES ACROSS THE NATION APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN SHAKEN.

WHETHER IT'S LEGITIMATE OR NOT, IT IS A REALITY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T TRUST THE VOTING ELECTION SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.

SO WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO SHOW THAT -- THAT THERE IS INTEGRITY HERE, THAT THESE MACHINES -- WHETHER IT'S THE SOFTWARE, HARDWARE, OUR OR PROCESS, THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE WITH ABSOLUTE INTEGRITY, SO THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY OF ANY TYPE OF FRAUD GOING FORWARD, OR EVEN IN THE PAST.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO REESTABLISH THAT CONFIDENCE.

>> BUT ISN'T IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF LEADERS TO TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH IS, THAT THE INTEGRITY IS THERE AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

ISN'T ENOUGH ENOUGH WITH THIS BUSINESS OF FRAUD AND ELECTIONS?

>> THE TRUST IS AN EARNED CONDITION, BUT IT'S ALSO A CHOICE, AND SO I WANT -- I WANT AN INFORMED TRUST BY EVERYBODY, AND THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE HAD, KAREN AND I CALLED FOR AN AUDIT WITH THE SUPERVISORS, AND THEY STILL WANT TO DO IT.

THE CHALLENGE FOR ME IS THAT THERE IS ONGOING LITIGATION THAT KEEPS THAT FROM HAPPENING.

WE HAVE HAD INSPECTORS HERE ON THE GROUND, READY TO DO IT, AND HAD APPEALS SIDELINE THE INSPECTION.

JUST INSPECT IT AND GET OUT OF THE WAY, SO PEOPLE KNOW, OKAY, NOW LET'S MOVE ON.

TO HOLD IT BACK TO ME, IS -- THERE ISN'T REALLY A WIN IN IT.

AS FOR WASHINGTON, THERE IS NO QUESTION, NO QUESTION, THE DISRESPECT, THE PLANNED DISRESPECT BY SOME OF THE DEMONSTRATORS WHO FORCIBLY PUSHED THEIR WAY IN AND CAUSED A RIOT IN THE CAPITOL COMPLEX, WHO RAN THROUGH THE HALLS AND DISRESPECTED OUR BUILDINGS, THAT WAS WRONG, AND THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW.

FOR THE DEMONSTRATORS WHO WERE THERE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED IT, BUT DID NOT TAKE PART, I'M SORRY THEY WERE THERE, AND THEY GET PAINTED WITH IT.

BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS.

SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS WITH OUR ASSOCIATIONS, BUT THAT GOES ACROSS THE BOARD ALL THE TIME, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM.

BUT THE PROSECUTION OF THOSE CRIMES NOT SOMETHING TO FLEE FROM.

THAT SHOULD BE EMBRACED.

>> WITH THAT SAID, SENATOR DO YOU WANT TO SEE INVESTIGATIONS OF ANY LEGISLATURE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CAPITOL ATTACK?

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT WAS A LEGISLATURE OR SENATE, CITIZEN OR ANYBODY ELSE, ANYBODY THAT ACTIVELY TOOK PART IN BREAKING INTO OUR CAPITOL, OR DOING HARM TO A PERSON OR BUILDING OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, ABSOLUTELY, THEY NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

>> SAME THING FOR YOU, IF IT'S SOMEBODY IN YOUR CAW -- CAUCUS, AND YOU FIND OUT THERE WAS A PROBLEM, YOU WANT AN INVESTIGATION?

>> ANY MEMBER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR RIOT, AND IF THERE IS FOUND THAT THERE IS A CAUSAL LINK BETWEEN MEMBER AND RIOT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT DEAL.

>> BUT YOU WOULD FIND THAT BY WAY OF INVESTIGATION.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AS THE INFORMATION IS COMING OUT OF THE FBI AND OTHERS THAT WILL BE CRITICAL FOR US.

>> AND LAST QUESTION.

ARE YOU CONCERNED REGARDING SECURITY ISSUES AT THE CAPITOL FOR THE SESSION?

>> I AM CONCERNED OVER THIS NEXT WEEK, AND SINCE LAST WEDNESDAY, WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEDNESDAY, I'M HOPING AND PRAYING THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE ON, AND WE DO NOT SEE ANYMORE OF THIS VIOLENCE, BUT WE ARE BEING DILIGENT BASED ON THE THINGS WE'RE SEEING ON NATIONAL MEDIA, AND REPORTS AND INTEL THAT THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE MORE ISSUES IN ALL 50 STATEDS.

WE'RE ON HEIGHTENED ALERT JUST TO PAY ATTENTION AND BE SAFE.

>> ENOUGH BEING DONE REGARDING SECURITY AT THE CAPITOL?

>> WE'RE GETTING GOOD INTEL.

I JUST HOPE WE ALL WILL TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND SAY WHAT REALLY IS AT STAKE HERE.

LET'S FOCUS ON OUR WORK AND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AS CITIZENS AND LEGISLATURES AND FAMILY FOLKS AND MOVE ON.

LET'S STRENGTHEN ARIZONA.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SENATE PRESIDENT AND HOUSE SPEAKER, THANK YOU BOTH SO VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> UP NEXT, THE PANDEMIC HAS BEEN ESPECIALLY HARD ON SCENE YOURS, BUT HOW TO KEEP TRACK OF THEIR MENTAL HEALTH WITHOUT PHYSICALLY BEING THERE.

WE'LL DISCUSS WHAT TO LOOK OUT FOR.

>>> SENIORS HAVE BEEN HIT ESPECIALLY HARD DURING THE PANDEMIC, BOTH PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY.

DEPRESSION IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR THE ELDERLY POPULATION, AND BECAUSE LOVED ONES ARE OFTEN UNABLE TO SEE FAMILY MEMBERS IN PERSON, THE SIGNS OF TROUBLE MAY BE HARD TO SEE.

WE TALKED WITH THE ARIZONA MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR DEVOTED HEALTH ABOUT HOW TO RECOGNIZE SYMPTOMS OF DEPRESSION.

DOCTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THE ISOLATION THAT SENIORS FEEL DUE TO COVID, HOW SERIOUS OF AN ISSUE IS THIS?

>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, BECAUSE IT IS A VERY, VERY SERIOUS ISSUE.

WE HAVE THE SOCIAL ISOLATION AND PHYSICAL SEPARATION FROM OTHER PEOPLE IS JUST EXACERBATED TREMENDOUSLY BY COVID.

ABOUT 28% OF THE OLDER ADULTS IN THE UNITED STATES LIVE ALONE, AND STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT APPROXIMATELY 25% OF THE MEDICARE-AGED PATIENTS HAVE SOME DEGREE OF MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS, AND THAT GOES UP TO 50% WHEN -- WHEN YOU ADD IN YOUR CHRONIC MEDICAL PROBLEMS, AND SO WE SEE THIS, OBVIOUSLY AS A VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.

THE OVERLAP OF DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY IS ALSO VERY, VERY COMMON IN THE ELDERLY.

>> AS FAR AS THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS, WHAT DO YOU LOOK FOR HERE?

>> THERE ARE MANY, AND CERTAINLY THE UNEXPLAINED OR AGGRAVATED ACHES AND PAINS THAT A PERSON MAY HAVE, THE LOSS OF INTEREST IN SOCIALIZING, WEIGHT LOSS OR LOSS OF APPETITE.

CERTAINLY SLEEP DISTURBANCES ARE VERY, VERY COMMON, AND WE ALSO FIND THAT THERE -- EVEN IN ELDERLY THAT WE MIGHT SEE MEMORY AS BEING ONE OF THE FIRST SYMPTOMS OF DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY.

IF THEY ARE FREQUENTLY FORGETTING THINGS THAT JUST THREE WEEKS AGO THEY KNEW, THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE AN INDICATOR THAT THERE IS MORE GOING ON BOTH FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT AND EMOTIONAL STANDPOINT.

>> AND IT'S ONE THING TO NOTICE THINGS.

IT'S ANOTHER TO REALIZE THAT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.

WHEN DO YOU HIT THAT MARK?

>> SURE.

WHEN THE SIGNS GET MORE SEVERE.

IF I THAT ARE WITHDRAWING.

AND THEY FEEL HELPLESS.

IF THEY HAVE HAD WEIGHT LOSS OR AGITATION, THOSE ARE ALL SYMPTOMS THAT WOULD BE INDICATORS FOR THAT PERSON TO SEEK OUT CARE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MAY BE GOING ON.

>> AND BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT POINT, ARE THERE WAYS TO COMMUNICATE TO -- TO ASSOCIATE, JUST TO DO SOMETHING VIRTUALLY IN THIS TIME OF COVID TO HELP SOME OF OUR OLDER FOLKS?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

FIRST IF A PERSONAL RECOGNIZANCE BOND NICES THEY ARE AT RISK, CERTAINLY WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO REACH OUT TO FAMILY AND FRIENDS, STAY CONNECTED WITH PEOPLE.

EVEN IF IT'S OVER THE PHONE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

PERHAPS TAKING CARE OF A PET.

EXERCISING, GOING OUT FOR WALKS, BUT FOR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS, IT'S REALLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO REACH OUT TO OUR ELDERLY FAMILY AS WELL.

BASICALLY, GETTING DEVICES INTO THEIR HANDS.

WE FIND THAT EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE ELDERLY POPULATION MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH TECHNOLOGY, THAT IF THEY GET DEVICES INTO THEIR HANDS, THEY CAN USE IT.

SO IF IT'S A CELL PHONE OR I PAD, OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU CAN ESTABLISH THAT VISUAL AS WELL AS AUDITORY CONNECTION WITH THE PEOPLE, IT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

>> WHAT ABOUT THERAPY?

IN-PATIENT, OUT-PATIENT THERAPY, WHAT IS OUT THERE?

AND COMPARE THE TWO IF YOU COULD.

>> SURE.

MOST CAN BE MANAGED FROM AN OUT-PATIENT THERAPY.

TALKING TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THE ISSUES GOING ON.

AND THE ABILITY TO REACH A HIGHER LEVEL OF CARE WITH A PSYCHOLOGIST OR PSYCHIATRIST.

AND THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT MANY OF THESE PROFESSIONALS WILL CONNECT WITH YOU VIRTUALLY AS WELL, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO IN.

INPATIENT HOSPITALIZATION FOR MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IS LESS COMMON, BUT CAN HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHEN THERE ARE MUCH MORE SIGNIFICANT MANIFESTATIONS.

>> AND CONCERNS REGARDING OUT OF POCKET COSTS?

>> SURE.

YOU ALWAYS WANT TO CHECK WITH YOUR INSURANCE FOR THIS.

IN FOLKS THAT HAVE REGULAR INSURANCE, YOU WANT TO CHECK WITH THEM, TO SEE HOW THE COVERAGE IS, BOTH FOR THE PROVIDERS AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY INPATIENT.

MEDICATION DOES COVER FOR IN-PATIENT AND OUT-PATIENT SERVICES.

THERE WERE LAWS PASSED BACK IN 2008 THAT REQUIRES MENTAL HEALTH COVERAGE TO BE COVERED BY ALL INSURANCES.

>> AND OLDER FOLKS, THEY ARE ALREADY AT RISK FOR LONELINESS AND ISOLATION BEFORE THE PANDEMIC HIT.

THIS HAS JUST GOT TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE.

>> IT IS COMPOUNDED TREMENDOUSLY.

AS PEOPLE ARE AT RISK, LIKE I SAY, ABOUT 28% OF OUR SENIORS LIVE ALONE, AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, THEY ARE BASICALLY COMPLETELY ISOLATED FROM OTHERS, WHICH IS DEVASTATING TO ANY OF US, LET ALONE FOLKS THAT HAVE A LOT OF CHRONIC ILLNESS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, DOCTOR.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>> UP NEXT ON BREAK IT DOWN, HOW YOUR BRAIN CAN PLAY TRICKS ON YOU TO KEEP YOU FROM SUCCEEDING.

THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

♪ >>> SO, I HAVE DEALT WITH THIS SO MUCH IN MY CAREER, ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR, WE ARE BREAKING IT DOWN, IMPOSTER SYNDROME.

DOCTOR THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO WHAT IS IMPOSTER SYNDROME?

>> IT'S A PHENOMENON THAT WHEN YOU HAVEN'T INTERNALIZED YOUR SKILLS, YOUR POTENTIALS, YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOU FEEL THAT YOU ARE INCOMPETENT TO AN EXTENT.

YOU CAN ALSO ENGAGE IN OVERWORK OR SELF SABOTAGE, AND IT IS A CYCLE.

>> DEFINITELY A SICKLE.

SO MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THIS YEAR, SOME PEOPLE HAVE HAD TO CHANGE OR SHIFT JOBS, SHIFT CAREERS.

HAS COVID HAD AN IMPACT ON -- FROM THE CLIENTS THAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH, OR PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE SEEING MAY NOT BE FEELING ADEQUATE IN WHATEVER JOB MOTION THEY MAY BE IN.

>> I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A TRIGGERING FROM COVID OF IMPOSTURE SYNDROME.

>> I PERSONALLY -- WHEN I THINK ABOUT IMPOSTER SYNDROME, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS TO THINK ABOUT IT AS AN INTERNAL WAY.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK ABOUT MYSELF.

I THINK I MIGHT BE INADEQUATE.

I'M NOT WORTHY.

I DON'T DESERVE WHAT I HAVE.

BUT WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE OF COLOR, RIGHT?

WHO ARE IN SOME WAYS INUNDATED IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE EXTERNALLY THAT THEY MAY NOT BE DESERVING OF AN ENVIRONMENT.

>> WE CALL IT THE DOUBLE IMPACT OF IMPOSTURE SYNDROME FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR, FOR WOMEN, FOR FIRST-GEN EXPERIENCES, THAT YOU HAVE THE INADEQUACIES, AND ALSO WHAT THE WORLD IS TELLING YOU.

YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.

OR X, Y, AND Z.

ONE OF THE CRITICAL PIECES TO DEALING WITH THAT IS HAVING A COMMUNITY AROUND YOU, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE IDENTITIES IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE ACCUSING YOU OF BEING A FRAUD.

SO I THINK THE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THAT IS REALLY CRITICAL TO OVERCOMING THAT EXTERNAL FORCE.

>> INUNDATING US IN ENVIRONMENTS AND COMMUNITIES TO NAVIGATE THAT, WOULD PROBABLY BE A GREAT ACTION.

>> YEAH, ADDITIONALLY.

THEY ALSO HAVE TO IDENTIFY AND CAN UNDERSTAND THE KINDS OF EXTERNAL FORCES.

IT MAKES IT DOUBLY WORSE IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE FORCES AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY.

>> I LIKE THAT YOU SAID GASLIGHTING, BECAUSE I HAVE TONS OF GIRL FRIENDS THAT ARE LIKE JUMP ON THIS, SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

AND I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, NOT BEING IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE JUST GASLIGHTING YOU.

SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.

IF I AM DEALING WITH IMPOSTER SYNDROME, OR MAYBE I DON'T KNOW I'M DEALING WITH IMPOSTURE SYNDROME, HOW DO I NOTICE THAT I MAY BE DEALING WITH SOMETHING, AND WHAT ARE THE FIRST STEPS?

LET'S SAY I DON'T KNOW A COMMUNITY THAT -- I MAY HAVE JUST MOVED OR MAY BE IN A NEW ENVIRONMENT, WHAT STEPS CAN I TAKE?

>> I THINK FIRST IN TERMS OF THE SIGNS, IT IS TRIGGERED BY A HIGH-PERFORMANCE EVENT, OR HIGH-VISIBILITY EVENT, I THINK THAT FEELING -- I THINK OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE WITH IMPOSTURE SYNDROME KNOW THAT FEELING OF FRAUDULENCE, THEY JUST THINK IT IS TRUE.

SO IT IS BEGINNING TO REALIZE THAT IT IS NOT TRUE.

PEOPLE TELL YOU YOU HAVE THESE CREDENTIALS, AND YOU STRUGGLING WITH IT.

I THINK IN TERMS OF FINDING COMMUNITIES TO SERVE YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS HELPED US TO UNDERSTAND IS WE HAVE EASILY ACCEPTABLE COMMUNITIES VIRTUALLY, AND THINK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN ENGAGE VIRTUALLY, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH MEETINGS OR FINDING COMMUNITIES, ONLINE, SOCIAL.

SO FINDING DIFFERENT WAYS TO FIND COMMUNITY AND NOT JUDGING WHAT COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE.

BEING ABLE TO FIND A COMMUNITY THAT SPEAKS TO YOU AND LIFTS YOU UP.

>> OH, YES.

I MOVE AROUND A LOT, RIGHT?

I'M IN A DIFFERENT CITY AND DIFFERENT STATE ALMOST EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, AND BEFORE I EVEN TOUCH DOWN IN A CITY, I AM ONLINE FIRST.

LOOKING -- WHETHER IT'S LOOKING UP WHATEVER RELATES TO ME, AND BEFORE I EVEN ARRIVE, I'M SAYING, I'M GOING TO ATTEND THIS AND THAT AND GO HERE.

SO MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION FOR SOME PEOPLE IF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO A COMMUNITY, USING THOSE GROUPS.

AS WE TALK ABOUT CHANGING AND FOCUSING ON SELF CARE IN ADDITION TO OUR PROFESSIONAL TRAJECTORY, RIGHT?

THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC HITS HOME FOR ME IN TERMS OF BEING ON THE BORDER OF PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL.

SO IN TERMS OF SELF SCARE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO KIND OF JUST CARE FOR OURSELVES MORE IN TIMES OF MAKING OURSELVES FEEL MORE ADEQUATE ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE, OR WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.

>> WHAT I OFTEN TELL PEOPLE TO DO IS THINK ABOUT THE THREE BUCKETS OF SELF CARE.

LIKE WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR BODY.

AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ADDRESS ISSUES IN YOUR LIFE RELATED TO YOUR MENTAL WELL-BEING, AND WORK ON MINDFULNESS AND ACTIVITIES TO KEEP YOU PRESENT IN THE MOMENT.

>> I LOVE IT.

>> THANKS.

>> I DEFINITELY NEED TO PUT ONE OF THOSE SELF CARE HITS FOR SURE.

SO IF YOU ARE FEELING LIKE, I DON'T DESERVE THIS, OR THIS ISN'T FOR ME, DEFINITELY TAKE TIME FOR SELF CARE.

SO WHAT IS YOUR LAST PIECE OF ADVICE FOR ANYBODY WHO MAY BE DEALING WITH IMPOSTER SYNDROME?

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I HAVE IMPOSER SYNDROME, AND IT'S LIKE MIC DROP, BUT YOU CAN GET OVER IT AND WORK ON THE SKILLS THAT YOU NEED TO OVERCOME IT.

DON'T STAY WHERE YOU ARE AT.

REALLY PROACTIVELY ADDRESS IT TO CHANGE IT.

>> AWESOME.

I LOVE IT.

BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IMPOSTURE SYNDROME.

WE ARE BREAKING IT DOWN.

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