♪♪ >> Ted: NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," IT'S THE JOURNALIST'S ROUND TABLE AND A LOOK AT THE WEEK'S TOP STORIES INCLUDING AT THE GOVERNOR'S STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS.

THE JOURNALIST'S ROUND TABLE IS NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED ROBERTS.

WE HAVE JEREMY DUDA AND JIM SMALL OF THE ARIZONA LAURIE ROBERTS WITH AZ CENTRAL.COM.

WE'RE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO RECORDING LATE IN THE 90 AND WE HAVE OUR BUDGET, THE BUDGET FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

ANY SURPRISES?

>> I SEE A LOT OF STUFF NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

THE FIRST TASTE OF WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL LOOK LIKE AND GOVERNOR HOBBS LAYING DOWN PRIORITIES AND THINGS SHE KNOWS THE MOST NORTHWORTHY ITEMS AND EMPOWERMENT SCHOLARSHIP ACCOUNTS AND THE VOUCHER STYLE FOR K12 EDUCATION AND DEMOCRATS HAVE HATED THIS AND THE FIRST EXPANSION AND $272 MILLION SAVED IF IT WERE GOING TO PASS AND IT'S NOT AN IF BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE DOH WITH REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS AND THE WHAT THEY DESCRIBED THIS TO US, THE HOBBS' ADMINISTRATION, THIS IS IN CONTRAST OF WHAT WE COULD DO AND INTERESTING SHE PUT THAT KNOWING THAT PRETTY MUCH NO CHANCE OF GOING ANYWHERE.

>> Ted: ANYTHING ELSE STAND OUT TO YOU?

>> YOU KNOW, OVERALL BUDGET, $17.5 BILLION INCLUDING SOME 2.$5 BILLION IN NEW FUNDING ON WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET AND SO THE BUDGET REFLECTS THAT AND ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR K12 AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN PARTICULAR AND THERE'S A LAWSUIT FOR K12 THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOCUSING ON SCHOOL BUILDINGS AND THERE'S MONEY THAT'S POURED IN THERE FOR THAT.

ON THE WHOLE, THIS SETS THE STAGE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE, THE DUE DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION VERSUS THE REPUBLICAN-LEAD LEGISLATURE AND THEY'VE NOT STARTED OFF ON A GOOD FOOT, AND THIS IS MORE OF THE SAME AND A LONG AND CONTENTIOUS SESSION FEELING OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER ASSUMING THEY CAN FIND A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER.

>> Ted: BORDERER STRIKE FORCE, DOES THAT EXIST?

>> THIS IS AN INTERESTING GOVERNOR.

SHE WON WITH .06 OF THE MARGIN OF VOTE AND NOT OPENED HERSELF UP TO LOOK LIKE SHE PLANS TO RULE FROM THE FAR LEFT.

SHE HAS ELIMINATED GOVERNOR DUCEY'S BORDER STRIKE FORCE AND THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL BECAUSE THAT WAS NEVER USED AT THE BORDER AND SHE'LL MOVE IT INTO OTHER ASPECTS OF DPS AND USE IT AS THEY SEE FIT AND FOR THE SAME PURPOSES.

SHE'S PROPOSING $40 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR DREAMERS FOR THE CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BROUGHT HERE WHEN THEY HAD CHILDREN THROUGH NO CHOICE OF THEIR OWN.

AND THE ESA THING.

THIS IS A GOVERNOR WHO, YOU KNOW, SAYS SHE WANTS TO RULE FROM THE MIDDLE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A COALITION GOVERNMENT HERE AND SHE'S OPENED HERSELF UP TO LOOKING QUITE LEFT.

>> Ted: THE ESA THING, THAT'S ALL KIDS.

THAT'S ADIOS.

>> IT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR AND IMPACT DIRECTLY AND I AGREE WITH YOU, IT WON'T GO ANYWHERE AND SHOULD IT GO SOMEWHERE, SHE'S PREPARING TO CUT OFF 26,000 CHILDREN MAKING USE OF THE ESA'S AND SHOULD WON'T GRANDFATHER THEM IN.

>> Ted: AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT IS LIKELY TO GO ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE.

ALTHOUGH, ESA'S HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE THAT'S P $300 MILLION IN COUNTING.

>> WHETHER THE LEGISLATURE WOULD PUT CAPS ON THAT, I'M SKEPTICAL AND GOVERNOR HOBBS MENTIONED THAT AND THAT'S WANTING MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND IMPOSING THE MANDATORY AUDIT FOR DISTRICT SCHOOLS AND ANY SCHOOL THAT TAKES TAXPAYER DOLLARS WHICH SHE SAID WOULD BE PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS THAT TAKE ESA'S AND POTENTIALLY TESTING REQUIREMENTS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT TRADITIONAL DISTRICT SCHOOLS ARE POINTSUBJECT TO AND THEY TAKE THESE VOUCHERS.

>> Ted: ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS AND TAXES WANT, WHAT DID YOU SEE?

>> SHE TALKED ABOUT THAT ON THE STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH OR CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND $15 MILLION FOR A CHILD TAX CREDIT AND A STATE LEVEL ONE, I THINK, KIND OF MODELED KIND OF LOOSELY ON THE FEDERAL ONE THAT WE SAW DURING THE COVID ERA PANDEMIC AND THAT WOULD BE -- IT WAS $100 PER CHILD PER YEAR IN TAX CREDITS FOR FAMILIES, THINK, BELOW AN INCOME THRESHOLD.

AND ALSO, EXEMPTING DIAPERS, CHILDREN'S DIAPERS AND FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCTS AND RIGHT AROUND $100 MILLION IN TAX RELIEF.

>> Ted: WATER ISSUES, DID WE SEE ANYTHING WITH WATER ISSUES?

>> I DID NOT DELEV THAT DEEPLY IN IT AND IT SEEMS LIKE A SLOW ROLL.

>> THERE'S SOME WATER STUFF IN THERE AND THEY WANT MONEY AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITIES SETTING UP ACTIVE AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE GROUNDWATER AND YOU PUT UP A SUBDIVISION FROM DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 100 YEAR GUARANTEED SUPPLY, BUT COMMUNITIES CAN SUPPLY TO SET THAT UP AND THEY'RE DOING THAT IN COCHISE COUNTY AND 333 MILLION OR SO, THE SECOND OF THE THREE YEARS WORTH OF INSTALLMENT PAYMENT FOR THE NEW WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCE BOARD THAT GOVERNOR DUCEY SET UP AND EMPARK EMBARKING ON A PROJECT AND THAT IS IN THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AND I THINK WE'LL SEE A LOT OF ACTION AND DISPUTE ON THAT BECAUSE OF THE STUFF WE SAW ON THAT BOARD THE FIRST ACTIONS, AND A LOT OF DISSATISFACTION OF THE DIRECTION.

>> Ted: HEAVY ON ACQUISITION AND NOT CONSERVATION.

JIM, THE G.O.P RELEASED GOALS AND THE HOUSE DIDN'T SEEM QUITE AS STRIDENT AS THE HOUSE WANTING A SPIRITED DEBATE ON NEW SPENDING AND THAT DEBATE SHOULD NOT HAPPEN WITH A LOADED WEAPON AT ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND THAT'S NOT KUMBAYA.

>> IT'S TO PASS A BUDGET AND BREAK THE BUDGET INTO MULTIPLE PIECES AND DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE GOVERNOR UNTIL THEY PASSED A BUDGET WITH CURRENT LEVEL SPENDING AND ONCE THAT'S IN PLACE, THEN THEY CAN GO AND TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE $2.5 BILLION SURPLUS AND WHAT ABOUT NEW SPENDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT?

IT'S A PLAN AND THAT PLAN IS WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AS, THINK, THE GOVERNOR'S ESA REPEAL PLAN IS AT THE LEGISLATURE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE AND STARTS OFF WHERE THEY'RE BOTH JOCKEYING FOR A POSITION AND NEGOTIATE QUITING POWER AND TRYING TO FEEL EACH OTHER OUT AND SEE HOW THE OTHER WILL RESPOND AND I THINK REPUBLICANS ARE LOOKING TO MAINTAIN PARTY UNITY IN A FACE OF A GOVERNOR WHO, AT LEAST IN THE SPEECHES WANTING TO BUILD UNITY AND BIPARTISAN COALITIONS.

I THINK THAT THIS BUDGET DRAFT THAT SHE PUT OUT, HONESTLY, IT HELPS THE REPUBLICANS MAINTAIN THAT UNITY BECAUSE AS LAURIE WAS SAYING, IT HAS SO MANY WISH LISTS AND GOALS SO FAR TO THE LEFT AND IT DOESN'T GO WITH THE STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS.

>> THEY WANT TO GET IN DONE IN FEBRUARY AND THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT BECAUSE WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO BY MARCH FIRST?

THEY HAVE TO WAIVE THAT SCHOOL SPENDING LIMIT OR THE SCHOOLS WILL LOSE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR WHICH IS DISASTROUS FOR THEM.

IF THEY TIE THAT TO THE BUDGET, IT MAKES IT INTERESTING AND IT WILL BE A GAME OF CHICKEN TO SEE WHICH SIDE PULLS UP FIRST.

>> ON THE SKINNY BUDGET OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING IT, ALI BONE SAID AFTER -- WE GOT THE DETAILS OF THE BUDGET, THAT'S A NONSTARTER WITH THE HOBBS' ADMINISTRATION AND NOT HARD TO SEE WHY BECAUSE TJ SHOPE SAID, REPUBLICANS HAVE THINGS TO ADD, AS WELL, AND IF YOU PASS THAT, IT TAKES AWAY GOVERNOR HOBBS' LEVERAGE AND THINGS THE REPUBLICANS WOULD WANT TO ADD JUST LIKE THE REPUBLICANS AND REPUBLICANS WOULD BE FINE AND THAT LEAVES THAT HERE IN JUNE AND YOU CAN'T AGREE, REPUBLICANS COULD NOT WANT TO PASS THAT WITH AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN AND LET'S GET OUT OF HERE AND WE'VE GOT OUR BASELINE BUDGET AND GO HOME.

>> Ted: THE BOTTOM LINE THAT THIS SEEMS LIKE A NEGOTIATING START AND A POINT TO START NEGOTIATIONS AND A POINT WE'RE GOING HERE AND MOVE HERE IF WE HAVE TO AND WE CAN DO IT, BUT THESE NEVER ARE, THESE INITIAL BUDGETS ARE.

BUT MAYBE MORE SO THAN UNUSUAL?

>> AS A GOVERNOR, YOU'RE PUTTING OUT A WISH LIST AND REPUBLICANS WILL DO THE SAME THING WHEN THEY START FRAMING OUT THEIR BUDGET.

I THINK YOU CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND THE NUMBER OF TIMES IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, A GOVERNOR'S BUDGET SHOW UP AND GET ADOPTED WHOLESALE AND HAPPENED ONCE FOR DUCEY MAYBE TWICE.

SO THIS IS COMMON IN THAT SENSE.

I THINK IT IS INTERESTING, THOUGH, AND IT DOES, I THINK, DELIVERRATE HOW FAR APART THEY ARE AND WE WON'T NEGOTIATE UNTIL WE MAINTAIN CURRENT SPENDING AND KNEECAP THE GOVERNOR'S NEGOTIATING POWER AND THE GOVERNOR STARTING OFF WITH A WISH LIST THAT IS JUST NOT GOING TO FLY.

>> WE FACED THIS BEFORE WHEN THATNAPOLITANO HAD A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE AND THERE WAS A MODERATE COALITION WHEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO, ULTIMATELY WAS WAS WILLING TO NEGOTIATE A BIPARTISAN DEAL.

TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

THEY TAKE OFF THE MODERATES.

YOU HAVE ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS AND THE FAR-RIGHT REPUBLICANS, THE FREEDOM CAUCUS, THAT WILL BE A NO ON ANYTHING.

SO SHE'S GOT A TOUGHER ROAD TO HOE THAN THAT POL TAN THAT NAPOLITANO DID.

>> IT DOESN'T MATTER AS LONG THE REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE CHAMBER AND THEY DECIDE WHAT GOES UP FOR A VOTE AND WHAT DOESN'T.

YOU HAVE SUPER NARROW REPUBLICANS AND THAT WILL MAKE THINGS DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT AS WELL.

YOU HAVE BOTH SIDES UNEXPECTED SITUATION AND THEY'RE FEELING EACH OTHER OUT AND FIGURING OUT HOW SIDE EACH SIDE WILL BEND BEFORE THEY BLAKE BREAK OR PUSH BACK.

IT'S A LEARNING PROCESS AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY'RE FIGURING OUT HOW TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER AND APPEASING THEIR BASES.

>> Ted: A LOT OF ARMS NOT VOTING UNTIL I GOT X, Y AND Z.

>> THEY SHOULD REALIZE THEY'RE NOT GOVERNING WITH A MANDATE.

THERE'S A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE, A GOVERNOR WHO WAS ELECTED JUST BY THE SKIN OF THEIR TEETH AND IT WOULD BEHOOVE BOTH SIDES TO LOOK FOR MIDDLE GROUND.

>> Ted: THE STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS BECAUSE STARTED THE WEEK AND ALWAYS BOOK IN AND THE BUDGET.

COMPARE TO DUCEY ADDRESSES AND WE HAVE SEEN THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS.

>> YEAH, I THINK IT CERTAINLY GOT A MUCH CHILLIER RECEPTION WITHIN THE CHAMBER THAN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OF DOUG DUCEY STATE OF THE STATE SPEECHES, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE.

THIS IS A SPLIT GOVERNMENT AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SHE GAVE A SPEECH THAT HIT A LOT OF THE NOTES THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO HEAR, A DEMOCRATIC STUMP SPEECH AND HIT ON A LOT OF PRIORITIES AND THEY'RE DIFFERENT IN A LOT OF RESPECTS THAN THE REPUBLICANS ARE AND CERTAINLY THAN DOUG DUCEYS WERE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK DEMOCRATS WERE HAPPY, REPUBLICANS WERE LARGELY NOT TERRIBLY HAPPY.

SOME WERE OUTRIGHT DISRESPECTFUL AND RUDE AND STOOD UP TO SHOW THE GOVERNOR UP.

AND SHE'S CERTAINLY NOT A GIFTED ORDER AND I THINK THAT SHOWED IN THE SPEECH, BUT I THINK IF YOU KIND OF LISTEN TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE SPEECH, IT LAID OUT WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO AND WHAT SHE WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH.

EVERYTHING FROM EDUCATION TO WATER TO CIVIL RIGHTS AND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.

>> Ted: LAURIE REFERRED TO ALL OF ARIZONA AND NOT FORGETTING ABOUT THE RURAL AREAS BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN THOUGHT THAT THE LEGISLATURE IN GENERAL, THE STATE OF MARICOPA.

>> DOMINATED BY MARICOPA.

>> Ted: BUT ON THIS PROGRAMMING AND OTHER PLACES, SPEAKER TOMA SAID THIS WAS A HIGHLY PARTISAN SPEECH?

WAS BETTER SUITED FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION AND THAT THE JOINT SESSION AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, BUT AREN'T ALL STATE OF THE STATE SPEECHES SOMEWHAT -- YOU HAVE A DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, AND THEY SPEAK FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE?

>> I'VE HEARD HOBBS SEVERAL TIMES TAKE JABS AT DUCEY AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS NECESSARY BUT PROBABLY ENJOYABLE FOR HER AND SHE'S TAKING JABS AND THROWS OUT THE ESA'S WOULD BE BANKRUPT AND DIDN'T CALL FOR ANYTHING AT THAT POINT.

IT SOUNDED LIKE A JAB.

>> Ted: THE WATER REPORT THAT WAS -- >> THAT DUCEY DIDN'T DO.

AND SPEAKING OF WATER, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT A LOT, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE.

SHE DIDN'T LAY OUT A PLAN OH OR TASK FORCE AND THAT'S DIFFICULT WITH THIS LEGISLATURE.

>> Ted: CALLED TO THE MOST CONCERNING ISSUE OF OUR TIME AND MENTIONED THE SAUDI ARABIA FARMING IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE STATE AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

OVERALL, I DON'T KNOW, I ALWAYS SEE THE PARTISANSHIP WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN AND WAS THIS SHARPER ELBOW THAN THE PAST?

>> PROBABLY NOT, BUT IT PROBABLY STANDS OUT AS SUCH BECAUSE IN THE PAST, REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR TALKING TO A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE AND SURE, IT SOUNDS PARTISAN AND THEY'LL WORK TOGETHER ON THESE THINGS, EXCEPT FOR THE OCCASIONAL BIG TICKET DISAGREEMENT ITEM LIKE THE TAX HIKE AND THEY'LL BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

FAIRLY STATE OF THE STATE, THEY USUALLY ARE EXCEPT WHERE IT'S CONTROLLED BY THE REPUBLICANS.

THE DEMOCRATS WERE ON THEIR FEET FOR HALF THAT SPEECH AND MORE THAN FEWER REPUBLICANS CLAP EXCEPT WHEN THEY WALKED OUT DURING THE ABORTION PART.

>> SHE SAID WE WANTED TO WORK TOGETHER AND LEGISLATURE AND SHE STARTS STICKING IT TO THEM, AND I PERSONALLY DIDN'T MIND.

I'M A COLUMNIST AND I LOVE THAT STUFF.

BUT IT SEEMED THAT THE $40 MILLION FOR IMMIGRANTS WHO WERE HERE ILLEGALLY, THAT'S GOT TO DRIVE A STAKE THROUGH HEART OF SOME OF THOSE REPUBLICANS WHO, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T EVEN WANT THOSE DREAMERS TO BE HERE, OBVIOUSLY.

THEY CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT THEM TO GET IN-STATE TUITION WHICH VOTERS OVERRULED ON THAT.

BUT SHE'S TAKING IT FAR TO TALK ABOUT USING STATE TAX DOLLARS.

>> AND AFTER THE SPEECH, BOTH SIDES ACKNOWLEDGED, YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE ON MUCH, BUT HERE IS MAYBE A FEW AREAS TO GET ALONG AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL SEE THE FOCUS ON, AGGREGATE LIMIT AND HOUSING, WATER, AND THAT'S FROM BOTH SIDES, THE MOST IN TERMS OF THE SALE'S CUT TAX AND TJ SHOP THAT HE REINTRODUCED AND BOTH SIDES UNDERSTOOD MOST OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WON'T HAPPEN.

>> Ted: YOU MENTIONED RESPONSES BY THE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS AND SOME STANDING UP AND TURNING THEIR BACKS ON THE GOVERNOR AND THEN, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN ABORTION WAS MENTIONED, A ROW OF NOT MORE OF REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS JUST GET UP AND LEAVE.

HAVE WE SEEN THAT BEFORE IN THE STATE OF THE STATE MESSAGES?

>> YES, BUT IT IS VERY INFREQUENT.

THE LAST TIME I REMEMBER IT HAPPENING WHEN PROBABLY DURING THE THAT PAL TAN PAL NAP ARCALITANO ERA.

IT'S TELLING IN WHAT LAURIE WAS SAYING, THERE'S NO COALITION IN THE MIDDLE.

EVEN 15, 20 YEARS AGO, PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE WHO COULD BUILD A COALITION AROUND, BUT THAT DOESN'T EXIST NOW.

YOU HAVE VERY TRIBAL LEGISLATURE.

WE SAW IT IN HOW THEY HAVE THE STATE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES SET UP.

REPUBLICANS ARE ON ONE SIDE AND DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE OTHER.

THEY'RE NOT INTERMINGLED AND THEY DON'T HAVE DESKS NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND YOU DON'T HAVE FOLKS WHO WILL INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER ON A DAILY BASIS TO HAVE THE COLLEGIAL THINGS AND THAT'S TELLING.

THAT'S LIKE A BATTLE FOOTING THAT THE HOUSE IS ON.

EVEN IF JUST LITERALLY THE PHYSICAL WAY IT'S STRUCTURED THIS WAY.

>> AND THE REPUBLICANS, THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS, AT LEAST, ARE DOING THAT SAME DIGGING IN AND THE FIRST WEEK OF THE LEGISLATURE, THEY DON'T DO MUCH OF ANYTHING AND PASSED THROUGH TWO COMMITTEES, A BILL TO CUT CORPORATE INCOME TAXES.

NOBODY APPARENTLY ASKED FOR THIS BILL AND NOBODY LOBBIED FOR IT AND NO DEMONSTRATED NEED FOR IT, BUT REPRESENTATIVE LIVINGSTON DECIDED THIS WAS THE WAY TO GO AND GOAT GOT IT FAST-TRACKED AND THAT WILL NOT GO OVER WELL WITH TEAM HOBBS.

>> Ted: DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND?

>> SOMETHING WE'LL SEE NOW THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN SINCE THE NAPOLITANO AREA IS BILLS WILL GET SENT UP TO GET VETOED AND THIS IS EXHIBIT A ON THAT.

>> Ted: TALK ABOUT TURNING YOUR BACK, STANDING UP AND TURNING YOUR BACK TO THE SPEAKER.

>> YOU KNOW, SHE'S GIVING A SPEECH AND HER FIRST WEEK IN OFFICE, HER FIRST STATE OF THE STATE SPEECH AND SURELY WE COULD EXPECT ELECTED OFFICIALS AND GOOD WILL TO AT LEAST LISTEN TO WHAT THE WOMAN HAD TO SAY.

YET, THERE THEY ARE AND THE FREEDOM CAUCUS HAD THIS PLANNED OUT AND SOME DECIDED NOT TO SHOW UP OR LISTEN TO A WORD SHE SAID.

OTHERS TURNED THEIR BACK, SAW THEM TURNING THEIR BACK OVER THE GOVERNOR AND AS YOU MENTIONED AT THE POINT OF ABORTION, IT'S JUVENILE AND PETTY.

WHAT IS IT THE THIRD GRADE?

I GOT TONS OF EMAILS FROM FURIOUS REPUBLICANS AND WHAT ABOUT NANCY PELOSI TORE UP PRESIDENT TRUMP'S STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH?

THAT WAS BAD, TOO.

I DON'T THING BAD ACT SHOULD BE USED AGAINST ANOTHER ONE.

YOU WOULD LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND LET'S AGREE ON THAT BEFORE WE GO INTO GUERILLA WARFARE.

>> Ted: I'M HEARING THERE'S NO RUSH AND IT'S THERE FOR A REASON AND VOTERS PUT THAT THERE AND I MEAN, IS THIS -- ARE WE GOING FROM HERE TO HERE OR FROM HERE TO HERE?

WILL THINGS IMPROVE OVER TIME?

I'M A COCKEYED OPTMIST.

>> NO ONE WANTED TO JUMP BECAUSE HOBBS IS TELLING THEM TO JUMP AND I THINK CERTAINLY ENOUGH REPUBLICANS ON BOTH SIDES WHO WANT TO DO THAT AND DON'T WANT SCHOOLS TO BE SHUT DOWN.

>> Ted: WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ELECTION REFORM AND ALL SORTS OF FOLKS AS FAR AS ELECTION COMMITTEES AND WE HAVE ELECTION DENIERS AT THE TOP.

>> A LOT OF THEM THAT WILL GET HEARD OR PASSED AND VETOED.

I THINK TO THROW THOSE ELECTION BILLS INTO THE WOOD CHIPPER AND A LOT OF PROPOSALS THAT WERE REJECTED IN THE PAST AND DOING THINGS THAT GOVERNOR HOBBS WON'T GO FOR.

>> IT'S A STATEMENT BY THE REPUBLICANS -- JUST LIKE SHE'S MAKING A STATEMENT, AND WE'LL PACK THESE AND SOME OF THE FURTHEST RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE LEGISLATURE AND MEAN WANT TO DECERTIFY AND STILL WANT TO BE OVERSEEING AND RUNNING THESE ELECTION BILLS.

>> Ted: IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THEY PUT THESE FOLKS IN THE CORNER OF THE ROOM TO KEEP THEM BUSY AND GET THEM TO DO THINGS THAT THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT WILL GET PASSED THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE?

>> IT WON'T AND SENDS A MESSAGE THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING IN CHARGE OF COMMITTEES?

WENDY ROGERS?

>> IT WILL MAKE THINGS DIFFICULT WHEN THEY TRY TO GET DOWN TO THE REAL BUSINESS BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A MAJOR ISSUE AFTER SOME OF THE STUFF WITH THE LAST ELECTION IN MARICOPA COUNTY AND MAKING CHANGES IN WILL MAKEMAKINGCHANGE FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE IT HARDER TO VOTE.

THAT WILL HAVE TO BE A VERY BIPARTISAN EFFORT AND WENDY ROGERS HA THINKS HOBBS AND BIDEN AND EVERY DEMOCRAT SHOULD BE DECERTIFIED.

WILL.

>> Ted: THEY'LL SAY YOU IGNORE ME AND I'LL IGNORE YOU.

>> MAYBE CASES WHERE BILLS GO ON THE FLOOR THAT DON'T ENVIRONMENT VOTES.

MAYBE A REPUBLICAN, TWO OR THREE THAT WILL VOTE AGAINST IT AND REJECT IT AND WON'T GIVE THE GOVERNOR A CHANCE AND AT LEAST YOU'VE MADE A POINT TO YOUR CENTER OR REPRESENTATIVE WHO PUSHING THIS ISSUE, THAT THERE IS NOT THE SUPPORT.

TEDS >> Ted: WE HAVE A MINUTE AND THE BORDER CONTAINER AND THE DUCEY CONTAINER WALL.

IT COSTS ABOUT THE SAME TO PUT UP THAT TOOK DOWN.

>> THE SAME COMPANY HIRED AND IT'S OUT OF FLORIDA.

IT'S A GROUP THAT HAS GIVEN MONEY, THE DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN GROUPS.

IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY GAVE SOME CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS TO A PRO TRUMP RELATED PACK AND RETURN BECAUSE IT WAS AN ILLEGAL EXPENSE GIVEN THEY'RE FEDERAL CONTRACTORS AND COST TO US IS $204 MILLION FOR THIS, DEPENDING HON YOUHOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

>> Ted: WHAT WAS THE POINT?

>> A TOTAL STUNT.

HE WAIT UNTIL THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF HIS EIGHT-YEARS TO TEA CLEARDECLARE THIS EMERGENCY AND THEN HE CAN AWARD THIS NO-BID CONTRACT TO THIS OUT OF THE STATE FIRM, NO ARIZONA FIRM THAT COULD DO THIS?

I THINK IT'S CURIOUS.

THAT FIRM HAS DONE A LOT OF DISASTER RELIEF WORK IN TEXAS AND SO, PERHAPS, THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT ONTO THEM.

WE'LL FOOT THE BILL FOR THE WHOLE THING.

>> Ted: WE'LL STOP IT THERE AND PANEL, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEK.