FINALLY STARTED AGAIN, THREE THIS LAST IN '22.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THE QUESTIONS ABOUT HAVE BEEN ANSWERED THE DEATH PENALTY PROTOCOL.

WHETHER WE CAN MESS UP ANOTHER ONE.

AND THE GOVERNOR WANTS TO DO A FULL DEEP DIVE ON THIS WITH SOMEONE WHO IS INDEPENDENT FROM OUTSIDE THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.

THERE IS A NEW CORRECTIONS DIRECTOR, BUT THIS WILL BE SEPARATE FROM THAT.

AND OF COURSE THE NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL -- THERE WAS ONE PERSON ON DEATH ROW WHO PETITIONED THE ARIZONA SPRING COURT TO ISSUE A DEATH WARRANT FOR HIM.

AND NO YOU THAT CHRIS MAYS IS IN OFFICE A DEMOCRAT, SHE'S ASKED TO -- SHE'S CHANGED HIS MIND AND SHE ALSO WANTS TO STOP THAT.

>> WHAT DO WE MAKE OF ALL OF THIS.

YOU ARE NOT ENDING IT, JUST PUTTING A PAUSE ON IT.

TO MORE TRANSPARENCY AS BOB MENTIONED A BETTER BEING OF WHAT'S GOING HERE?

>> THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNOR ASKING FOR, TED, THE GOVERNOR IS OUR TOP EXECUTIVE IN THE STATE, SO HER STATEMENTS ARE GETTING THE HEADLINE THIS IS MORNING, BUTT ATTORNEY GENERAL'S ACTION MIGHT HAVE MORE CONCRETE IMPACT, SHE'S ASKING TO WITHDRAW THE STATE'S MOTION TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE ONLY EXECUTION THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING TOWARDS CAPITAL PUNISH IN LITTLE IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, THAT'S A MORE CONCRETE IMPACT AND HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT EVEN WITHOUT ANNEX POLICE I HAVE CHANGE IN OUR STATE'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM OR A CHANGE IN POLICY TOWARDS CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

WE COULD SEE OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS WHEN WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR AND ATTORNEY GENERAL AT LEAST A PAUSE ON THE EXECUTIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OFF-RAMPS IN THE PROCESS SO MANY WAYS THE OFFICIALS INCLUDING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CAN STOP THOSE FROM MOVING FORWARDS WHEN WE WERE IN OFFICE.

>> CAMRYN WAS THIS A SURPRISE?

I DON'T REMEMBER THIS BEING THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE IN EITHER THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OR GOVERNOR RACE?

>> BURNOVIC WAS MOVING FORWARD WITH IT IT WAS AN INITIATIVE OF HIS MAYBE BECAUSE HE WANTED TO SAY THAT HE WAS DOING SOMETHING ON THE ISSUE WHEN HE WAS RUNNING.

BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, HE'S NO LONG NEVER OFFICE AND CHRIS MAYS HAVE BEEN SAYING SHE DOESN'T SUPPORT THE PRACTICE IN GENERAL, EVEN THOUGH HOBBS DON'T GO THAT FAR, I THINK IT COULD BE THE FUTURE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.

>> YEAH, BASICALLY WE JUST WAIT TO SEE WHAT IS THE COMMISSIONER DOES AS FAR AS THE TRANS PARENT IS A IS WHAT THEY FIND AND HOW THE STATE GOES FROM THERE.

IN THE MEANTIME NO CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

>> I WOULD FIND IT HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THE NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL WE'LL SEEK ANNEX CUSHION WARRANT FOR ANYBODY BESIDES MR. -- >> BEGUN ."

>> WHO IS ON HIS OWN AND ASKED TO BE EXECUTED.

I DON'T THINK THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WILL ASK FOR SOMEBODY IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.

HOW LONG WITH WILL TAKE IT'S HARD TO SAY.

WE HAVE HAD PROBLEMS GETTING DEATH PENALTY DRUGS AND WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH INJECTING THEM.

AND THEY WANT A FULL DEEP DIVE AND IT MAY TAKE, AT LEAST A YEAR I WOULD SAY BEFORE WE GET A REPORT.

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT YOU SAY, YEAH, IT'S PROBABLY UNLIKELY, WE'LL SEE UNDER ATTORNEY GENERAL CHRIS MAYS, MORE EXECUTIONS MOVE FORWARD.

THEY CITED BOTH THE STATEMENT BUT ALSO SAID THE GOVERNOR IS SEEK THAT GO AND WANTS TO PUT THAT PROCESS ON HOLD.

THAT'S INDICATE THAT GO THIS IS A HAVE YOU HAVE YOU SHE WANTS TO SEE THE RESULTS OF BEFORE OTHER THINGS MUCH FORWARD.

>> INTERESTING STORY.

LET'S MOVE TO A WHAT COULD ABBY COMPLICATED STORY HIGHSER THE UNITED STATES SENATE RACE, CAMRYN SINEMA.

SHE'S LEFT THE DEMOCRATIC WARM TO INCOME AN INDEPENDENT.

NOW KARI LAKE MIGHT BE CONSIDERED A SENATE RUN.

AND OTHER FOLKS WAIT IN THIS WINGS THINKING ABOUT RUN ORGANIZE SAYING NOT GOING TO DO IT.

>> CERTAIN THINKING ABOUT IT FOR SURE, SIN SINEMA MAKES THE MOST SENT AND GALLEGOS IS THE DEMOCRATIC CHOICE AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE THINKING ABOUT KARI LAKE, OR SHE'S THINKING ABOUT HERSELF THINK NOT SURE WHO WANTS HER TO RUN.

I DON'T THINK SHE'S SAID CONCRETELY SHE'S RUNNING BUT IT'S PASS B THERE IS A HOPE THAT THE REPUBLICANS CAN GET THE DEMOCRATS IN AND THE INDEPENDENCE CAN SPLIT THAT SO THE REPUBLICANS COME OUT ON TOP.

>> WE SHOULD MING RUBÉÉN GALLEGOS IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE MONDAY.

CONGRESSMAN STANTON YESTERDAY SAID I AM NOT DOING IT.

>> HE SAID THAT WAS THE DEMOCRATIC MATCHUP THAT EVEN EXPECTED GRANDSTAND TONIGHT AND RUBÉÉN GALLEGOS A CONGRESSMAN FARTHER LEFT OF REPRESENTATIVE STANTON.

HE'S HEAVILY DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT.

SOUTH OF PHOENIX.

MARYVALE.

THAT PART OF TOWN.

MINORITY.

HE REPRESENTS PASTOR'S SEAT.

THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT GALLEGO RUNNING IS I JUST MENTIONED ED PASTOR THE CONGRESSMAN FROM FROM THAT DISTRICT FOR DECADES, 205 YEARS EVERYBODY DIED FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO, A COUPLE OF YEARS AFTER LEAVING OFFICE.

GALLEGOS IS GIVING UP A SURE SEAT IF HE RUNS FOR SENATE.

BECAUSE HE LOST -- SOMEBODY WILL OBVIOUSLY GET THAT SEAT AND NOT WANT TO GIVE IT UP IF HE DOESN'T WIN IN SENATE.

SO THAT'S INTERESTING.

YOU KNOW, FACT THAT GREG TAN STOP DIDN'T RUN DOESN'T SURPRISE ME.

HE JUST WON A TOUGH SEAT THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TO HOLD HE'S PROBABLY UNDER PRESSURE NOT TO LEAVE THAT.

WHETHER KYRSTEN SINEMA RUNS AND ANNOUNCE AS INDEPENDENT, THAT'S UP IN THE AIR.

CARRY LAKE JUMPING IN, I EXPECT SHE WILL NOT BE THE ONLY REPUBLICAN IN THIS RACE.

>> OH, NO, NOT AT ALL.

IF SHE WERE TO DO IT SHE REALLY HASN'T STOPPED CAMPAIGNING, HAS SHE?

>> SHE HASN'T.

SHE'S A UNIQUE POLITICIAN IN ARIZONA'S UNIQUE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE.

I READ THE WASHINGTON POST STORY.

THEY CREIGHTON NAMED CITE CITE UNNAMED SOURCES SHE'S CONSIDERING FOR OFFICE.

I DON'T THINK WE KNOW MORE TODAY THAN A WEEK AGO.

WE COULD HAVE GUESSED A WEEK AGATHA SHE WAS -- THIS WAS ON THE TABLE FOR KARI LAKE.

I AM NOT SURE THAT WE CAN TALK MORE CONCRETELY ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT.

KARI LAKE WE SAW IN HER CUBE GUBINATORIAL CAMPAIGN SHE'S A CANDIDATE WHO IS ALGORITHMICALLY OPTIMIZED TO GENERATE MEDIA COVERAGE AND DOING IT TODAY.

>> SHE IS.

>> THAT'S ALL WE KNOW RIGHT NOW.

>> THAT IS ALL THAT WE KNOW.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW IN THIS STATE, WE HAVE HAD A 33-PERSON RACE FOR GOVERNOR AT THE TIME, BACK IN THE 1986, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AND EVAN MECHAM, A A MAN THAT WAS A PERENNIAL LOSER IN ELECTIONS MANAGED TO SQUEAK BY A WIN AND MADE HEADLINES BETWEEN THE MARTIN LAUTHER KING HOLIDAY AND IMPEACHMENT RECALL EFFORTS.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS FILM BEFORE.

AND A LOT OF FOLKS ARE WORRIED ABOUT IT.

>> I THINK IT'S KIND OF FUN.

>> AM SURE DO YOU.

>> I HOPE EVERYBODY GETS INVOLVED THAT CAN GET INVOLVED AND FIGHTS IT OUT THINK I AM CURIOUS IN LAKE DECIDES TO RUN WHO GOES AGAINST HER.

I HAVE HEARD WELL I WARD THROWN AROUND I DON'T KNOW IN THAT LEGITIMATE AND I DON'T MEAN TO START A RUMOR.

WOULD THE DEMOCRATS BE OKAY WITH GALLEGO OR DO WANT TO SOMEBODY SMUG AGAINST HIM.

STAN TOUR IS MORE MIDDLE AND MAYBE MORE DIGESTIBLE IF THERE HAS TO BE A THREE-DAY GENERAL ELECTION.

MAYBE IT'S DANGEROUS TO HAVE GALLEGO WHO IS FURTHER TO THE LEFT.

>> YEAH.

>> KELLY WARD, ANDY BIGS POSSIBLY.

>> POSSIBLY.

>> THERE ARE LOTS OF NAMES OUT THERE.

>> THERE ARE.

A U.S. SENATE SEAT SAY PRIZE.

ONCE YOU GET THE SENATE SEAT, YOU CAN HOLD OFF TO IT IF YOU ARE NOT KYRSTEN SINEMA WHO GIVES UP THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

THAT'S THE MOST INTRIGUING THING ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING WHERE SHE THINKS SHE CAN WIN OR NOT.

HAD HE EVER WHOLE MANTRA IS, YOU KNOW, ARIZONA IS AN INDEPENDENT STATE IF I RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT I WILL GET INDEPENDENTS TO VOTE FOR ME AND SOME OF THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.

>> I DON'T KNOW MANY REPUBLICANS THAT WOULD EVER VOTE FOR KYRSTEN SINEMA.

AND I THINK HAD SHE'S ANGERED SO MANY DEMOCRATS THAT WILL BE TOUGH TOO.

>> WHAT ABOUT REPUBLICANS WHO ARE FACED WITH EITHER KYRSTEN SINEMA OR KARI LAKE?

>> YES, MAYBE SO OR MAYBE KYRSTEN SINEMA, I SURE CAN'T VOTE FOR RUBÉÉN GALLEGOS.

>> YES.

>> IT'S JUST AN INTERESTING THING, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THERE IS THAT AND ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO ARE NONPARTISAN IN THIS WORLD TO DO THAT.

>> YEAH.

SO NICK, YOU THINK THAT KARI LAKE HAS ALREADY WON IT BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HER?

>> IN A CERTAIN SENSE SHE ABSOLUTELY HAS.

>> SHE HAS THAT FIGURED OUT, HASN'T SHE.

LET'S STICK WITH YOU, NICK AND TALKS ABOUT THE HOBBS I INAUGURATION, HARD NUMBERS HERE, INFORMATION HERE.

$1.5 MILLION RAISED, WHAT?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S A BIG FIGURE.

AND IT'S A LOT BIGGER THAN WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SPENT ON THAT I NOTHING RAISE CEREMONY WHICH WAS A LITTLE MORE THAN $200,000.

AND AS FOLKS DOCUMENTED THE HOBBS TEAM INITIALLY RELEASED A LIST OF THE SPORNS OF THE EVENT.

BUT DIDN'T WANT TO GO IN TO DETAILS ON HOW MUCH THOSE SPONSORS HAD GIVEN THEY, I GUESS RELENTED AND PUT OUT A LIST WITH THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THEY WERE SURPRISING.

JUST THE LARGEST SPONSOR ALONE.

A.P.

S, ARIZONA PUBLIC SERVICE, GAVE 250,000 DOLLARS TO HER INAUGURATION CEREMONY AND SO THAT LEAVES, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 1.3 IN THE THAT SHE CAN DO.

FRANKLY WHAT SHE WANTS WITH.

AND THE HOBBS TEAM HAS NOT GIVEN ANYMORE CLUES AS WHO TODAY WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THAT MONEY ABOUT, YOU WITH YOU THING PEOPLE ARE SPECULATING ABOUT IS USING IT FOR LEGISLATIVE CAMPAIGN PAINS IN 2024.

SHE WILL HAVE TROUBLE GETTING HER AGENDA THROUGH THE REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED SENATE@AND HOUSE IF SHE COULD FLIP A COUPLE OF SEATS HAVE YOU SHE MIGHT HAVE A BETTER TIME.

>> GETTING THIS INFORMING, WAS IT LIKE PULLING TEETH OR JUST ORDINARY DENTAL WORK?

>> NO, IT WAS NOT EASY.

INFORMATION NOT A FUN THING TO DO BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT DO IT BUT ONCE THE STORY WAS OUT AND THE TRACTION WAS SUCH IT GOT REPEATED THE WHOLE MEDIA LANDSCAPE SOMEONE WOULD PICK UP THE BALL AND RUN IT MORE, FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, AND THE ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE TO THE HOBBS CAMP WAS IT'S BLEEDING, YOU KNOW, THE WAY ON STOP THE BLEEDING IS TO BE TRANSPARENT AND GET IT OUT THERE.

WHETHER THEY TOOK THAT -- WHETHER THAT WAS THE REASON THEY REBUILD OR NOT.

THEY DID REVEAL IT.

IT IS A SHOCKING NUMBER.

YOU KNOW, $200,000.

FOR THE INAUGURATION EVENT THAT WAS A KNOWN NUMBER, BUT WHY DO YOU RAISE -- WHY DO YOU ACCEPT MORE THAN 250 FOR ONE, EVEN WANTS TO INNING CARE YET THE NEW GOVERNOR ESPECIALLY THE PUBLIC SERVICE THAT SPENT $840,000 OR SO FAVOR THE REPUBLICAN FOR GOVERNOR.

>> INDEED.

IT WAS A SURPRISE A.P.

S GAVE THE FULL 250,000 HERE.

CONSIDERING THE PARENT COMPANY GAME TO THE RGA SUPPORTING HOBBS' A OPPONENT.

>> MAYBE ALL THE REASON TO GET BACK IN HER GOOD RACES AND ALSO THE REALTOR'S ASSOCIATION AND BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.

IT'S NOT AS TRANSPARENT IF BLACK AND WHITE IF WE GIVE HER MONEY SHE'LL DO SOMETHING FOR US.

THAT MIGHT BE THE FIRST STEPS OF GETTING HER TO NEGOTIATE.

OR FOR THE START OF HER ADMINISTRATION THEY WANT TO START OFF ON THE RIGHT FOOT AND HELP HER GET STARTED AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY ARE READY TO COME TO THE TABLE.

>> DID SHE START OFF ON THE RIGHT FOOT BY MAKING IT SO DIFFICULT TO GET THIS INFORMATION?

>> WITH THE MEDIA OR WITH THEM?

>> YEAH.

WITH THE MEDIA.

>> WE WERE PUSHY I THINK.

AND I DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT IT.

WE LOVE TRANSPARENCY.

I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S ON A BAD FOOT WITH ANYONE ELSE.

>> AND NOT NECESSARILY THE MEDIA JUST IN TERMS OF, YOU YOU KNOW THE IMAGE HERE.

YOU KNOW, YOU RAISE THE MONEY, WHO HELPED YOU RAISE IT?

WHERE DID YOU GET IT FROM, IT'S NOT BIG OF A DEAL.

>> WHAT YOU ARE GESTURING AT IS THIS STORY FITS IN THE LARGER CAMPAIGN, THAT SHE SAID IS TO MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE TRANSPARENT AND THERE WERE MANY CRITICISMS FROM THE MEDIA, THE PUBLIC ABOUT TRANSPARENCY UNDER DOUG DUCEY THAT WAS SOMETHING KATIE HOBBS SAID WOULD CHANGE WITH HER AS GOVERNOR AND THEN IN THE FIRST DAYS OF HER GUBERNATORIAL ADMINISTRATION A LARGE SUM OF MONEY THAT SHE'S NOT OFFER TO GO BREAKDOWN WHERE IT CAME FROM.

IT KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE PROMISES THAT SHE'S MADE.

>> THE LAST POINT, SEEMED LIKE SHE WAS SURPRISED THAT ANYONE REALLY CARED THIS MUCH ABOUT IT.

>> YES, I THINK SO.

AND OF COURSE, THEY DID.

AND IT'S BECAUSE WHAT NICK SAID IT, GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT SHE RAN AGAINST.

SHE RAN FOR, TRANSPARENCY, BUT, YOU KNOW, SHE SEEMS TO BE DRAWING A LINE BETWEEN BETWEEN GOVERNING AND RAISING MONEY.

FOR INSTANCE, SHE HELD A PRESS AVAILABILITY TODAY.

SHE WAS ASKED ABOUT THE MARICOPA COUNTY DWELL CONTRACT I CAN PARTY CHAIR FIGHT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

THERE WILL BE A NEW HEAD OF THE MARICOPA -- THE STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

AND THERE IS A BATTLE GOING ON BETWEEN STEVE GALLARDO AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME -- >> YO LOON DA.

>> YES.

WHO ARE FIGHTING IT OUT AND SIN SINEMA IS BACKING ONE, SHE WAS ASKED ABOUT THAT.

SHE SAID NOT TODAY.

NOT THE SPOT TO DO IT.

I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT ON GOVERNMENT GROUND, SHE'S MAKE A CLEAR DIRECTION BETWEEN POLITICS AND GOVERNMENT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HER THINKING WAS.

>> INTERESTING POINTS.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE LEDGE SLICE TRUE, WHAT HE IS GOING DOWN THERE?

AND CAMERON WE'LL TALK ABOUT FOOD TAX THAT THEY HEARD ABOUT DURING THE GULF OPEN RACE AND HEARING AGAIN, ELIMINATING STATEWIDE.

>> VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

RECAP AND GET BACKGROUND FOR EVERYONE.

KARI LAKE WANT ITED TO DO THIS SHE SAID SHE WANTED TO ELIMINATE THE FOOD TAX AND REPRESENT THE TAX THINK ABREUS IS IT'S TIME THAT SHE WAS AGAINST THAT THAT IT WAS A BAD IDEA.

FAST FORWARD, HOBBS IS NOW GOVERNOR, BUT PEARSON, TOOK SO FAR THE SENATE AND SAID THIS IS PART OF HIS INFLATION REDUCTION PLAN AND HE WANTS TO ELIMINATE THE FOOD AT AND RENTAL TAX.

AMONG A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS, SO HOBBS I DON'T BELIEVE DIDN'T RESPOND TO PETERSON DIRECTLY.

SO PRIMARILY IT'S STILL A BAD IDEA THE BILL MOVED FORWARD IN THE HOUSE.

AND IT PASSED ITS FIRST HURDLE THE COMMITTEE.

AND I BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS ARE AGAINST IT.

THE LEAGUES OF CITIES AND DOWNS ARE AGAINST IT.

THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE AGAINST THE THEM SEEPING IN ON A WHITE HORSE TO DO SOMETHING THEY DON'T WANT WHAT US THEY SAY THEY NEED THE REVENUE FROM THIS TAX TO PAY FOR THINGS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE, AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO LARGE CITIES IN ARIZONA LIKE PHOENIX AND PLAY THAT DON'T HAVE THIS TAX NOW, SO THE IDEA IT WOULDN'T REALLY HELP INFLATION REDUCTION FROM THE OPPONENT' POINT OF VIEW AND IT WOULD HARM CITIES AND TOWNS.

>> THE ARGUE IS, AS CAMRYN MENTIONED, SMALLER TOWNS, MORE RURAL AREAS, THEY NEED THIS.

UP TO 30% OF THEIR REVENUE COMING IN AS FAR AS TAXES IT ARE CONCERNED.

AND IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY, THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSEDLY HELPING BY GETTING RID OF A FOX TAX THEY WILL PAY A HECK OF A LOT MORE IN OTHER MUNICIPAL TAXES.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

I CAN'T SAY THAT I HAVE READ THROUGH ALL OF THE DETAILS OF THE WARREN PETERSON PROPOSAL, BUT I KNOW WHEN CARRY LAKE SUBMITTED A SIMILAR PLAN THAT CAMRYN REFERENCED, THERE WERE ASSURANCES THAT THE STATE WOULD REPLACE SOME OF THAT FUNDING THAT THESE SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES RECEIVE NOW.

IF YOU ARE CUTTING TAXES HERE AND THE STATE IS GIVING THE MONEY BACK, IT'S ALL TAX MONEY.

SO YOU CAN'T JUST PRINT MONEY TO REPLACE THAT, I AM NOT SURE IF AT THE END OF THE DAY THE TAX BURDEN IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.

BUT IT WOULD SHUFFLE THE MONEY AROUND PERHAPS SOMEBODY WOULD COME OUT ON TOP.

>> I WAS GOING SAY, REPUBLICAN -- SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT I READ, REPUBLICAN MEMBERS ARE SAYING, CITIES CAN HANDLE THIS.

THERE ARE WAYS THEY CAN HANDLE IT, HOW?

>> THE CITIES, WHEN THEY PASS THE HUGE INCOME TAX CUTS, TWO YEARS AGO NOW, THEY RAISED THE SHARE OF INCOME TAXES THAT CITIES GET FROM 15 TO 18%.

SO YOU SAY, WE ARE THEY ARE GETTING MORE MONEY THERE.

WE ARE ALSO NOW TAXING ON INTERNET SALES AND A SHARE THAT HAVE GOES TO THE CITY.

SO THEIR ARGUMENT IS THEY HAVE A TAX WINDFALL, ROLLING IN MONEY.

THIS IS EASY FOR THE!

TRUE TO SAY THEY CAN NOT CUTTING TACKS STATEWIDE THE FOOD TAX IS KNEW MISS KNOWLEDGE IT'S NOT COLLECTED ON BY THE STATE IT'S INDIVIDUAL GOVERNMENTS AND AS THE MAYOR FROM GILBERT WAS DOWN AT THE LEGISLATURE THIS WEEK, SAID, EVERY CITY HAS THEIR OWN COCKTAIL OF TAXES THAT, PROPERTY TAXES, SALES TAXES AND REVENUE TAXES, VARIOUS REVENUES THAT MAKE UP THEIR BUDGET WHEN YOU GO TO THE LEGISLATURE TELLS THE CITY YOU HAVE TO CUT OUT 10, 20, 30% OF YOUR REVENUE AND IT DOESN'T HURT THE LIDGE LEGISLATURE THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.

IT'S KIND OF AN UNFAIR THING.

>> IS THIS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE!

TRUE TELLING CITIES, TOWNS, MUNICIPALITIES WE ARE THE BOSS HERE.

>> THE IDEA FROM PETERSON AND THAT GROUP IS THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT INFLATION NOW AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HELP PEOPLE AND ALSO THAT FOOD, GROCERIES, THIS IS ABOUT GROCERIES REALLY, IS A NECESSITY, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE IS A LOT OF ARGUE UP ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS ISN'T EVEN HELPING THE POOREST PEOPLE IF YOU QUALIFY FOR FOOD STAMS YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON GROCERIES IN THE FIRST PLACE, SO IF A CITY, FOR EXAMPLE, GILBERT, HAS THEIR FOOD TAX CUT AND RAISES THEIR SALES TAX PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SPENDING THE SAME IF NOT MORE IN TAXES BECAUSE THE SALES TAX WILL BE INCREASED THERE.

I DON'T REALLY BELIEVE PERSONALLY THAT THIS WILL GET SIGNED BY HOBBS.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS HAS VETO WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT FAR BUT YOU DID.

>> I AM ASKING YOU.

WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED IF SHE SAID GOOD IDEA.

>> I CAN SEE THE V-E-T-O FROM HERE.

>> YOU CAN SEE IT FROM HERE, YEAH.

LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE VETOED IF IT GETS THERE THIS IS THE IDEA OF STUDENTS BEING ABLE TO SELF IDENTIFY, PRONOUNCES HIM, HE, HER, SHE, HIM, WHATEVER IT IS.

THE LEGISLATURE SAYING WE DON'T LIKE THAT KIND OF THING.

>> WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT IF THIS EVEN MAKES IT TO KATIE HOBB HOBBS' DESK IT WILL BE VETOED IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE.

SOMEONE IN HER ADMINISTRATION, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HER CHIEF OF STAFF, I CAN'T RECALL.

A MEMBER HER ADMINISTRATION SAID AS MUCH THIS WEEK, THE GOVERNOR IS DUSTING OFF HER VETO PEN IF THIS COMES HER WAY.

AND THAT TELLS YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE TO THE REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS THAT ARE BEHIND THIS.

WHAT IT TELLS YOU IS THIS IS A POLITICAL MOVE.

AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD INDICATION KASES FROM REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP INCLUDING BEN TOMA.

MADE STATEMENTS THAT THERE WILL BE BILLS THAT RUN THIS TERM THAT WE'LL GET VETOED BUT WE'LL RUN THEM ANYWAY WE WANT SHOW TODAY SHOW THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE AND THE GOVERNOR WILL SHOW WHAT SHE STANDS FOR WITH HER VETO PEN.

>> IS THIS ONE OF THINGS WHERE IF YOU ARE IN LEADERSHIP YOU JUST -- I AM NOT GOING TO TO SAY, THROW A BONE, BUT YOU THROW A BONE TO SOME OF THESE FOLKS?

>> THAT'S PART OF IT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARIZONA LEGISLATURE FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS.

IT'S BEEN RUNG REPORTS REPUBLICANS LASTS YEAR THEY PASSED A LAW THAT BANNED TRANSGENDER ATHLETES TO COMPETING TO TEAMS OF THEIR IDENTIFIED SEX, SO YOUNG WOMEN CAN'T COMPETE ON A WOMEN'S TEAM BECAUSE THEY WERE BIOLOGICALLY MALE.

BUT THAT'S A RED MEAT THING FOR THE BASE, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, A RED MEAT THING FOR THE BASE CAN AND I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEIR ARMS AROUND THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR TO SIGN THOSE THINGS YET.

>> LET'S GET TO THE CRUX FOR DEMOCRATS.

IF A PARENT GIVES WRITTEN.

THEY KNOW THEIR KIDS THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW ABOUT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, THIS IS KIND OF SERIOUS GETTING IN TO THE FAMILY AFFAIR KIND OF STUFF.

>> THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS WHOLE THING IS TO MAKE HOBBS VETO IT TO SAY SHE WENT AGAINST PARENTAL RIGHTS.

THE IDEA OF PARENTAL RIGHTS IN THIS CASE IS THAT PARENTS NEED TO KNOW IF THEIR KIDS ARE USING A DIFFERENT NICKNAME OR PRONOUNCES OR WHATEVER AT SCHOOL.

THIS IS ALSO BEEN POSED BY KAVANAUGH THE SPONSOR OF THE FREE SHEEPISH YOU WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF INTERESTING, BECAUSE WHAT THE BILL ASKS FOR IS FOR PEOPLE TO GET PERMISSION TO USE CERTAIN WORDS, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A STEP IN THE OTHER DIRECTION OF FREE SPEECH.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> WHAT DOES MR. KAVANAUGH, HERE IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE.

IF THERE IS A 14 OR 15-YEAR-OLD CHILD IN SCHOOL, WHO IS IDENTIFYING AS NOT MALE, BORN MALE AND THEY WANT TO USE DIFFERENT PRONOUNCES.

WHAT DOES MR. KAVANAUGH THINK WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY TELL MOM AND DAD.

>> THAT WAS MY POINTS.

>> THAT'S MY QUESTION, HOW DOES THAT FIT.

>> WE KNOW SOME PARENTS ARE NOT AWARE AND MAY NOT GO OVER SO WELL.

>> NICK.

>> BOB IS RIGHT.

THIS IS THE SCENARIO THAT YOU HAVE TO ENVISION WHEN LEGISLATION LIKE THIS STARTS MOVING.

CAMRYN IS RIGHT IN SAYING THIS IS BEING BROUGHT IN UNDER THE BANNER OF PARENTS RIGHTS.

THAT'S A TERM THAT WE HAVE HEARD.

MORE THAN A YEAR NOW.

SOME YEARS NOW.

IT IT'S BEEN CURRICULUM IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, MAYBE SHARING CURRICULUM CLASS NOTES TO PARENTS.

BUT IT'S ONE THING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

THAT BOB BROUGHT IN TOE PLAY.

>> WE HAD AN APPEALS COURT RULING REGARDING THE ARGUMENTS THAT VOTING BY MAIL IS SOMEHOW UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

GO THE RIGHT, GET IT OUT OF HERE.

THE APPEALS COURT GOT IT RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT STARTED WITH THE PUB CAN PARTY AND KELLY WARD WITH THE NEW HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES BUT ALSO ATTORNEY AND THEY WERE SAYING IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO BOAT VOGT BY MAIL BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS SAFE AND SECURE, IT'S NOT WHAT OUR FOUNDING WHOEVER INTENDED.

ANYWAYS, THEY STARTED OFF IN MOJAVE AND IT WAS REJECTED AND MOVED IT UP.

THEY WANTED TO GO TO THE SUPREME COURT FIRST BUT WERE NOD NOT ALLOWED TO.

THE APPEALS COURT REJECTED IT AND I GUESS THEY'LL KEEP IT MOVING.

BUT I THINK THE SUPREME COURT WOULDN'T TAKE A DIFFERENT STAND.

>> WILL THEY TAKE TO THE SUPREME COURT DO YOU THINK?

>> OH, YEAH, THEY WILL EVERY TIME THEY DO THEY GET DONATIONS THE ARGUMENT THEY RAISED IS YOU COULDN'T GUARANTEE THE SECRECY OF THE BALLOT, BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE YOUR BALLOT AT YOUR TICH ENABLE AND YOUR HUSBAND OR WIDE COULD PRESSURE YOU TO VOTE A CERTAIN WAY.

THAT DIDN'T FLY AT THE TRIAL COURT OR THE COURT OF APPEALS.

I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM CONSIDERING IT'S GOING FLY AT THE SUPREME COURT BUT THEY'LL PROBABLY TRY.

>> YOU THINK SO, NICK?

THEY'LL GIVE IT A SHOT?

>> I AM SURE THEY'LL TRY.

I CAN'T BELIEVE WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS COURT CASE BUT IT'S 100 PERCENT BECAUSE IT'S A POLITICAL CHARACTERS IT'S A WAY TO POLICE IT'S DONATIONS.

THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS THREE-JUDGE PAM AT THE COURT OF OF APPEALS AFFIRMED THE TRIAL COURT'S RULING.

I DON'T SEE ANY DAYLIGHT TO PUSH THIS.

>> THEY ARE COURT CASES AND THEY INVOLVE THEY THE ELECTIONS WHEN THE SUPREME COURT MAKES A DECISION WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE AND GOOD IT SEE YOU BACK AGAIN I THOUGHT WE GOT RID OF YOU.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW.

>> YOU ARE HARD TO GET RID OF.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW, I AM TED SIMONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, YOU AND A GREAT WEEKEND.

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