TED: COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE, THE TOP STORIES OF THE WEEK INCLUDES A NEW REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN THE RACE FOR U.S. SENATE.

>>> ON CRONKITE NEWS, THE IMPACT OF THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE'S COMMITMENT TO CHANGE AFTER ADMITTING TO YEARS OF HISTORICAL RACISM.

>>> AND ON "BREAK IT DOWN," LATINX REPRESENTATION IN CHILDREN'S MEDIA, ALL AHEAD IN THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS ANNOUNCER: THIS HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF PBS.

MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION.

THANK YOU.

TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

ARIZONA'S THREE PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES WILL REQUIRE ALL EMPLOYEES TO BE FULLY VACCINATED FOR COVID-19 BY DECEMBER 8.

THAT ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY, THE STATE BOARD OF REGENTS SAY IT'S NECESSARY TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR INSTITUTIONS THAT CONTRACT IN ANY WAY WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

ARIZONA'S UNIVERSITIES RECEIVE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR GRANTS AND CONTRACTS.

PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER REQUIRING VACCINATIONS FOR FEDERAL CONTRACTORS.

THIS COMES AS FDA PANEL TODAY ENDORSED THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON BOOSTER SHOT FOR ALL ADULTS AT LEAST TWO MONTHS AFTER RECEIVING THE INITIAL SINGLE DOSE.

THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT A LACK OF DATA TO SUPPORT THEIR DECISION BUT CHOSE TO UNANIMOUSLY ENDORSE THE ADDITIONAL DOSE AFTER J&J SAID BOOSTER PROVIDED 94% PROTECTION AGAINST SYMPTOMATIC CASES AND 100% PROTECTION AGAINST SEVERE OR CRITICAL INFECTION.

>>> UNVACCINATED ADULTS ARE 11 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE FROM COVID-19 THAN FULLY VACCINATED ADULTS.

THEY ALSO FACE A SIX TIMES HIGHER RISK OF TESTING POSITIVE.

CDC USED DATA REPRESENTING 30% OF THE POPULATION.

RISK OF UNVACCINATED PEOPLE DYING FROM COVID HAS DROPPED AS CASES HAVE DECLINED BUT THE RISK OF HOSPITALIZATION FOR THE UNVACCINATED CONTINUES TO INCREASE.

>>> AND ARIZONA REPORTED JUST UNDER 2400 NEW CASES OF COVID TODAY, SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE SEVEN-DAY AVERAGE.

38 FATALITIES WERE RECORDED.

HOSPITALIZATIONS NUMBER DROPPED SLIGHTLY FOR THE DAY AND THE WEEK BUT ICU UNITS ARE STRETCHED TO CONCERNING LEVELS.

>>> TIME NOW FOR THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE, AND JOINING US TONIGHT FOR A LOOK AT SOME OF THE WEEK'S TOP STORIES, WE WELCOME STEVE GOLDSTEIN OF KJZZ RADIO AND HOWIE FISCHER OF CAPITOL MEDIA SERVICES.

GENTLEMEN, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

STEVE START WITH YOU, AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT JUSTIN OLSON, CORPORATION COMMISSIONER WANTS TO BECOME U.S.

SENATOR JUSTIN OLSON.

>> CROWDED FIELD ON THE GOP SIDE.

PART OF THAT IS INDICATIVE OF THE FACT THAT MARK BRNOVICH HAS NAME RECOGNITION, HE'S BEEN IN BOTH CAMPS AS IT RELATES TO THE RECOUNT AND PRESIDENT TRUMP'S COMMENTS AND WHAT NOT.

HE HAS NOT PROVEN TO BE A GREAT FUND-RAISER.

JUSTIN OLSON SEES THIS AS OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING.

CURRENT CORPORATION COMMISSIONER, HAS NAME RECOGNITION BUT DOESN'T LIGHT FIRES.

TED: HOW ABOUT YOU, HOWIE?

>> THERE IS AN OLD SAYING THE CORPORATION COMMISSION IS A DEAD END, GOING BACK TO MARK KIMBLE, WHO THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BECOME A U.S.

SENATOR FROM THE CORPORATION COMMISSION.

YOU DISAPPEAR THERE AND THERE'S NO UPSIDE TO BEING ON THE COMMISSION, PARTICULARLY IN THE MIDDLE OF AN APS RATE HIKE.

I THINK HE'S GOT REAL PROBLEMS THERE AND, OF COURSE, AS YOU POINTED OUT, YOU'VE GOT ESSENTIALLY A SIX WAY RACE TRIED TO DIVIDE UP.

YOU HAVE WELL-FUNDED PEOPLE LIKE PETER THIEL.

JIM LEHMAN SAYING BRNOVICH IS TOO FAR TO THE LEFT.

MARK McGWIRE FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD COUNTING ON GETTING CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN AS WE TALK ABOUT THE SHOW.

SIX WAY RACE, SOMEBODY WITH 20% CAN WALK AWAY WITH IT.

>> ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT ABOUT JUSTIN OLSON IS THE WORK HE'S DONE, AND HE'S STILL EMPLOYED OF TURNING POINT USA WITH CHARLIE KIRK WHO IS A REAL NOISEMAKER, MAJOR PRESIDENT TRUMP SUPPORTER, VERY INFLUENTIAL WHEN IT COMES TO SCHOOL POLICIES AND WHAT NOT, MAKING A LOT OF NOISE.

HE'S AN INTERESTING COMPARISON AGAINST PETER THIEL, SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE NAME RECOGNITION BUT YOU HAVE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE KITTY, YOU HAVE A CHANCE.

TED: ARE THE CANDIDATES TRUMPY ENOUGH?

DO THEY NEED TO BE TRUMPY ENOUGH?

ESPECIALLY IN THE FIELD OF THIS VARIANT.

>> WHAT CAUSED KARI LAKE TO BREAK OUT WAS, IN FACT THE TRUMP ENDORSEMENT.

TRUMP IS NO FAN OF BRNOVICH, HE'S CRITICAL BECAUSE BRNOVICH HAD THE TEMERITY TO SIGN THE ELECTION RETURNS AND CERTIFY THEM AS ACCURATE.

HE CAN WRITE OFF TRUMP.

WHO DOES TRUMP PUT HIS BLESSING ON, TAP ON THE SHOULDER TO?

THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AGAIN, SIX-WAY RACE, THERE'S A LOT OF TRUMP VOTERS WHO ARE HIGH-EFFICACY VOTERS AND CAN TURN OUT AND MATTER.

TED: THEY CAN MATTER IN THE PRIMARY, THERE BUT STEVE AS FAR AS THE GENERAL ELECTION AGAINST MARK KELLY, WHOLE DIFFERENT BALL GAME.

>> MARK KELLY HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY HE'S RAISED.

I TALKED TO REPUBLICANS WHO ARE BIG KYRSTEN SINEMA BACKERS AND SEE MARK KELLY AS VULNERABLE.

HE BEAT MARTHA McSALLY BY THAT MUCH AND SHE WAS A WEAKENED CANDIDATE, IF YOU HAVE THE INTRAPARTY FIGHTING AS HOWIE SAID AND SOMEONE WAITING FOR THE TRUMP ENDORSEMENT AND HAVE TO GO FULLY RIGHT WING AND MARK KELLY CAN TAKE IT, HE'S STILL AN ASTRONAUT, HE HAS THE POWER.

>> ONE OTHER QUICK POINT.

THIS IS AN OFF-YEAR ELECTION.

IF BIDEN'S POPULARITY CONTINUES ON THE COURSE IT IS ON NOW, THE SENATE COULD LOSE DEMOCRATS AND MARK KELLY COULD BE ONE OF THEM.

TED: THE ATTEMPT TO KEEP VOTERS FROM HAVING A SAY ON THE FLAT TAX, WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT?

>> THE FREE ENTERPRISE CLUB, A CONSERVATIVE ANTITAX MOVEMENT FILED SUIT AND SAID THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF VOTERS IF THEY GET SIGNATURES WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE SESSION TO REFER A MATTER TO THE BALLOT.

WHAT THEY'RE ARGUING IS CASE LAW THAT SAYS BUT NOT TAX MATTERS.

THEY'RE SAYING YOU CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE OPERATION OF STATE GOVERNMENT.

NOW THE FLAW IN THE ARGUMENT, OF COURSE, AS THE PROP 208 FOLKS POINTED OUT THE SAME PEOPLE BEHIND THIS REFERENDUM IS ONE THING IF YOU WERE TRYING TO REFER A MEASURE TO THE BALLOT WHICH WOULD KEEP THE STATE IN RAISING THE MONEY IN NEEDS.

IF, IN FACT, THE MEASURE GOES ON THE BALLOT AND HOLDS IT UP, IT ESSENTIALY LEAVES THE STATE WITH MORE MONEY THAN IT NEEDS.

IT HAS EXCESS 1.5 BILLION BY 2025.

YOU CAN'T MAKE THE ARGUMENT IT'S CRIPPLING STATE GOVERNMENT.

WHAT THE COURT WILL DO WITH THAT, WHO KNOWS?

THE CONSTITUTION IS SQUIRRELY ON THAT IN TERMS OF MATTERS THAT AFFECT THE OPERATION OF STATE GOVERNMENTS.

TED: STEVE, SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE CLAIMING THERE'S NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO VOTE ON OR VETO TAX CUTS, AND BASICALLY THEY'RE SAYING THIS IS BEYOND THE REACH?

I DON'T GET THIS.

>> I DON'T EITHER, AND I'M GLAD HOWIE IS HERE, IT'S CONFUSING TO ME ULTIMATELY.

IF WE THINK ABOUT 1912, ARIZONA STATE CONSTITUTIONS, MANY THINGS THAT COMES, AND INCLUDED IS THE ABILITY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO DECIDE WE DON'T LIKE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DID, INTERESTING IN HOWIE'S STORY, WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID WE'RE NOT SAYING IF PEOPLE GET ENOUGH SIGNATURES, THEY CAN.

JUST DOESN'T APPLY TO THIS.

TED: WHAT'S NEXT IN ALL THIS, HOWIE?

>> WHAT'S NEXT IN ALL THIS IS THE JUDGE HAS TO SCHEDULE A HEARING, AND HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE, OKAY, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

IS THERE SUFFICIENT CONSTITUTIONAL BASIS TO LET THIS GO TO THE BALLOT?

OF COURSE, GIVEN THE NATURE OF THIS THING, NO MATTER WHAT THIS JUDGE RULES, WE KNOW THAT THE LOSING SITE IS GOING TO GO TO THE SUPREME COURT AND WE'LL GET CASE LAW, WHAT IS THE EXTEND OF INDIVIDUAL POWERS.

COURTS ARE HESITANT TO INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF THE PUBLIC TO REFER MATTERS, BECAUSE REMEMBER, UNDER THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION, THE LEGISLATURE IS CO-EQUAL WITH THE PEOPLE OR TO TURN IT AROUND, THE PEOPLE HAVE AS MUCH POWER AS THE LEGISLATURE.

SO TO MAKE LAWS AND HAVE THE POWER TO REPEAL LAWS.

TED: ALL RIGHT, STEVE, I'M CURIOUS WHAT IS ARIZONA'S SENIOR SENATOR DOING IN EUROPE AT A TIME WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS ON CAPITOL HILL REGARDING A SPENDING PLAN?

>> I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE FEWER PUBLIC TOILETS IN EUROPE, SHE'S HOPING TO NOT GET ACCOSTED AND SUPPOSEDLY THERE TO RAISE MONEY, NOT JUST FOR HERSELF AS THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTED.

THE DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE, ANOTHER U.S.

SENATOR LEADING THAT GROUP WHO IS THERE TO RAISE MONEY, A LOT OF MONEY.

FROM WHAT WE'VE READ, SENATOR SINEMA WAS NOT ON THE LIST OF INVITEES BUT THERE TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE PARTY, WHICH THE PARTY LIKES UNLESS SHE'S NOT AGREEING WITH THEM, SHE'S LIKE THE FILIBUSTER, I SUPPOSE.

TED: HOWIE, TO BE FAIR, THE SENATE IS OUT OF SESSION, SO SENATOR SINEMA CAN DO AS SHE PLEASES BUT OPTICS HERE, WHEN SHE IS SUCH MAJOR FACTOR?

>> NOT JUST THE QUESTION OF SHOULD SHE BE HERE IN NEGOTIATING, BUT THE IDEA OF HEADING TO PARIS IN OCTOBER, AND I UNDERSTAND PARIS IS VERY BEAUTIFUL THIS TIME OF YEAR, IT JUST LOOKS BAD.

NOW HERE'S THE OTHER PART OF IT, IN TERMS OF RAISING MONEY IN EUROPE.

IT'S TRUE FOREIGNERS CANNOT CONTRIBUTE TO RACES BUT EXPATRIATES CAN, PEOPLE LIVING OVER THERE CAN, AND TO GO THERE TO FIND MONEY SUGGESTS A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS, YOU CAN'T FIND PEOPLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO DEMOCRATS HERE?

TED: SPEAKING OF HERE, STEVE, CONSTITUTIONAL EXPERTS, FOUR OF THEM EXACTLY, WROTE A LETTER BASICALLY ASKING SENATOR SINEMA, GET YOUR IDEA ABOUT THE FILIBUSTER, WE UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T LIKE THE FILIBUSTER.

CARVE OUT SOMETHING WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING RIGHTS ISSUES, AND PAUL BENDER, OUR FRIEND PAUL BENDER, AMONG STANLEY FELDMAN, THE FORMER ARIZONA SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.

THESE ARE FOLKS WHO KNOW THEIR WAY AROUND THE CONSTITUTION, GO AND DO IT.

>> PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS NOT BEEN IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING THE FILIBUSTER, EVEN SENATOR JOE MANCHIN FROM WEST VIRGINIA, DIFFERENT SITES LIKE POLITICO CALLING IT SINEM AFTERNOONIN.

WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY BUDGING ON THAT AS WELL.

TED: IS THAT GOING TO MAKE DIFFERENCE TO HER, HOWIE?

>> YOU KNOW WHERE IT MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE, A LOT OF IT GOING ON WITH THE U.S. SUPREME COURT AND TEXAS.

FOR A LONG TIME, THE ABORTION ADVOCATES DID LIKE THE IDEA OF THE FILIBUSTER BECAUSE IT WOULD BLOCK REPUBLICANS FROM SHOVING ABORTION RESTRICTIONS DOWN THEIR THROAT.

NOW WE'RE IN A SITUATION THAT THE SUPREME COURT COULD OVERTURN ROE, AND A LOT OF TALK IN WASHINGTON ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING INTO FEDERAL LAW THIS GUARANTEE A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE.

IF THERE'S A FILIBUSTER RULE, THE REPUBLICANS WILL KILL IT.

NOW THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE, IF ROE v. WADE IS OVERTURNED, SENATOR SINEMA IS GOING TO FACE A LOT OF PRESSURE.

FORGET THE BUDGET, FORGET THE SPENDING CAPS, ON THE ISSUE OF ABORTION, IF SHE'S GOING TO BE STRONG ENOUGH TO SAY AT LEAST ON SOME ISSUES WE CANNOT RELY ON A RULE OF 60, WE NEED 50 OR 51.

>> TED, THERE'S A COLLECTION OF GROUPS THAT PUT OUT ADS AND THE AD CAMPAIGN, WASHINGTON, D.C., AND ARIZONA ARE THE ONLY PLACES PAYING FOR ADS.

THAT TELLS THE MESSAGE.

TED: LISTEN, WE'VE SAID THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, PRIVILEGE THIS AND SPECIAL THAT.

TURN OVER THE RECORDS AND?

>> THIS IS THE SECOND JUDGE IN THE WEEK WHO BASICALLY SAID IT, BUT IN THIS CASE, JUDGE KEMP REALLY, SHALL WE SAY, PUNISHED THE SENATE AND SAID, LOOK, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING WE WANT TO GIVE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO GIVE OUT.

YOU HAD A WONDERFUL PARTY AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, HE CALLED IT A PRESS CONFERENCE, WHERE YOU HAD THREE HOURS OF PRESENTING YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY BUT DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE DID THE NUMBERS COME FROM?

WHO PAID FOR THE NUMBERS?

WERE THESE TRUMP SUPPORTER?

HOW DID YOU GET THE CONTRACTORS IN THERE?

THE JUDGE SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT, IT'S LIKE TAKING THE FIFTH AMENDMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO TESTIFY AGAINST THEMSELVES AND SAY I WILL ONLY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS I WANT.

HE CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO KNOW THAN THE ELECTION OF A PRESIDENT AND ELECTION OF U.S.

SENATOR.

HE SAID YOU WILL TURN OVER THE RECORDS AND WE'LL HAVE A HEARING, IN FACT, NEXT MONTH ON THE QUESTION OF SHOULD I IMPOSE SANCTIONS ON THE SENATE AND SENATE PRESIDENT KAREN FANN, WHICH ULTIMATELY, AS WE KNOW ABOUT SANCTIONS, WE'LL HAVE A PERPWALK -- TED: THERE WE GO WITH THE PERPWALK.

MIKE LINDELL, A FACTOR IN THE AUDIT.

HE CALLS THE AUDIT A FRAUDIT AND SAYS THE CYBER NINJAS AND EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THE AUDIT WAS PART OF THE COVER-UP.

TED, ARE YOU ASKING ME?

IS THAT MIKE WALLACE?

>> I THINK WE DISCOVERED THE RESULTS DID NOT COME OUT PUBLICLY.

THE RESULTS DID NOT COME OUT AS MIKE LINDELL SAID.

AS MARICOPA COUNTY AND THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT LOOKED INTO, THEY'RE SAYING WHAT THE CYBER NINJAS SAID PUBLICLY WAS NOT WHAT THE COUNT WAS.

SO WE'RE SEEING A NICE LITTLE SETUP THERE.

TED: HOWIE, NOT ONLY THAT, THIS IS THE AUDIT, NOW WE'VE GOT PRESIDENT TRUMP COMING OUT WITH A STATEMENT SAYING THAT WHAT HAPPENED IN PIMA COUNTY, IT WAS RIGGED AND STOLEN, CAPITAL R, CAPITAL S FOR STOLEN, AND NOW NEED A NEW ELECTION OR PROCLAIM ME THE WINNER.

>> EXACTLY.

THIS SHOWS THIS NEVER ENDS.

MARICOPA COUNTY IS DONE, AS YOU POINT OUT.

EVERYONE HAS DIFFERENT VIEWS WHAT CYBER NINJAS CAME UP WITH.

AND THE PRESIDENT IS CLAIMING HE HAS DATA THAT SHOWS IN CERTAIN PRECINCTS THE VOTE TURNOUT WAS 102% AND COULDN'T HAVE POSSIBLY HAPPENED.

I KNOW THERE'S AN EXPLANATION FOR IT, I DON'T PRETEND TO BE AN EXPERT.

WE'RE JOURNALISTS, WE WENT INTO JOURNALISM SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH NUMBERS.

I HAVE A FEELING THE NUMBERS WERE PULLED OUT OF PEOPLE'S BODY PARTS AND THIS IS THE SAME DR. SHEBA WHO TESTIFIED IN THE MARICOPA COUNTY CASE AND THE WORK THERE IS DISCREDITED.

WHO KNOWS WHAT TO BELIEVE?

THERE'S ONLY 10,475 VOTES BETWEEN TRUMP AND BIDEN.

HE THINKS THEY CAN FIND THAT IF NOT IN MARICOPA COUNTY, IN PIMA COUNTY AND I'LL BET WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SANTA CRUZ COUNTY.

TED: SOUNDS LIKE MARICOPA DIDN'T WORK OUT, LET'S TRY PIMA.

>> THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CRAZY SITUATION LIKE THIS.

YOU HAVE CLEARLY WHAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE HAPPEN DID NOT HAPPEN.

WHAT I'M AFRAID IS PRESIDENT TRUMP RUNS AGAIN IN 2024, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO REHASH ALL OF THIS AGAIN?

MOST PEOPLE WANT THE AUDIT THAT HAPPENED AT THE FAIRGROUNDS TO GO AWAY, AND CLEARLY IT'S NOT GOING TO AND THOSE FOLKS WHO THINK IT'S A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY ARE GOING TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE WHAT PEOPLE DO AS FAR AS LEGISLATION.

TED: STEVE REFERRED TO EARLIER "THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC" RAN A STORY, THEY FOUND A GROUP CALLED THE AUDIT GUYS.

DO AUDIT COMPANIES HAVE SNAPPY NAMES?

THEY FOUND THE AUDIT GUYS AND CLAIM THAT CYBER NINJAS MADE THE WHOLE THING UP TO MAKE IT LOOK CREDIBLE.

>> THEY CLAIM THE SEPARATE BALLOT COUNT THAT WAS DONE UNDER RANDY WHERE THEY BROUGHT IN THE MACHINE TO DO THE MACHINE COUNT OF THE BALLOT, CAME UP 15% DIFFERENCE WHICH MEANT 167 BALLOTS -- 167,000 BALLOTS THAT WEREN'T COUNTED.

SO NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE.

HOW COULD YOU GO AND HAVE THE SAME NUMBERS COME UP DIFFERENT WAYS?

IT MAKES YOU WONDER DID THEY JUST FORCE THE NUMBERS TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THE RESULTS CAME OUT THE SAME, OR, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING BEHIND IT?

BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO LEAD, AS STEVE POUNTS OUT, TO NEW LEGISLATION.

THE FEAR AMONG A LOT OF PEOPLE, WITH ALL OF THIS STUFF, LET'S GET RID OF EARLY BALLOTING.

SENATE CANDIDATES SAY VOTE EARLY.

THE QUESTION IS WHOSE VOTE DOES THAT SUPPRESS.

TED: TO HOWIE'S PREVIOUS QUESTION, IS THIS EVER GOING TO END?

.

>> I DON'T THINK IT WILL.

WE WILL NOT SEE AN END TO THIS UNTIL 2024 AT THE EARLIEST.

THE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, TED.

TED: STEVE GOLDSTEIN, HOWIE FISCHER, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>>> COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," STORIES OF LOCAL LATINO LEADERS.

>> ARIZONA BARRIO STORIES HIGHLIGHTS THE MANY GENERATIONS OF LOCAL MEXICAN-AMERICAN FAMILIES.

FOUNDER GIL BIVENS SPOKE WITH JOSE CARDENAS ABOUT LEADERS, PHILANTHROPISTS, ENTREPRENEURS AND PROFESSIONALS.

>> GIL BIVENS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT ARIZONA BARRIO STORIES WHICH YOU AND OTHERS HAVE FOUNDED.

YOU'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED BY COX COMMUNICATION AS PART OF RECOGNITION OF HISPANIC LEADERS DURING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, BUT THIS IS SPECIAL, YOU DO THE EPISODES AND THEY AIR EVERY SUNDAY?

>> THEY AIR EVERY SUNDAY BUT PUT OUT TWO INTERVIEWS A WEEK ON OUR FACEBOOK AND YouTube PAGES.

>> AND AS THE TITLE INDICATES, THERE'S A PARTICULAR FOCUS ON THE BARRIOS IN THE VALLEY, SOME OF WHICH NO LONGER EXIST?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

THE WHOLE IDEA, JOSE, MYSELF BEING FROM GOLDEN GATE BARRIO, NOTHING WORSE THAN TO SEE YOUR COMMUNITY VANISH, LITERALLY KNOCKED DOWN AND NOT HAVING THE MEMORIES WHEN YOU'RE GROWING UP, AND SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS AND WHAT INSPIRED ME WAS BECAUSE OF THAT, AND TO SOMEHOW DEVOTE A PART OF MY LIFE TO START RESTORING HISTORY AND TELLING STORIES ABOUT THE VANISHING BARRIOS THAT WE ALL GREW UP IN, SUCH AS CANTITO, WE HAVE PROJECTS I BELIEVE LAST SEPTEMBER, THEY LEVELED OUT THE FLATS AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, EVEN THOUGH WE GREW UP, I'M A CHILD OF THE 60s.

A LOT OF US GREW UP IN THE BARRIOS THAT WERE CONSIDERED TO BE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE, AND THE CRAZY THING IS THAT WE WERE ALL POOR, WE DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE POOR AT THE TIME.

WE HAD A LOT OF FUN.

THERE WAS NO TECHNOLOGY.

>> YOU SEE THAT.

I SAW SOME OF THE CLIP US AND GET A SENSE FOR THAT, AND, IN FACT, DANIEL DEGA, ONE OF THE PEOPLE YOU PROFILED, TALKS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SHOWING THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE BARRIOS.

HE SAID THE 90% POSITIVE THAT WAS THERE AND THAT PEOPLE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BUT FOR YOUR SERIES.

>> THAT IS CORRECT, AND THAT IS REALLY THE PLATFORM RIGHT THERE, JOSE, IS TALKING TO A LOT OF THE SUCCESS STORIES.

THE BARRIOS PRODUCE GREAT FRUITS, RIGHT?

WE HAD DANNY ORTEGA, A MENTOR OF THE PROGRAM, WE HAD FRANK AMACHO, TOMMY ESPINOZA.

JOE EDDIE LOPEZ, THEY ALL CAME OUT OF THE BARRIOS AND THE UNSUNG HEROES THAT CAME OUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKED DOWN AT.

WE'RE ALL SUCCESS STORIES.

WE HAVE LAWYERS, WE'VE GOT PHILANTHROPISTS, DOCTORS, POLICE OFFICERS.

WE'VE PRODUCED SOME GREAT STORIES.

SO MY THING WAS TO GO BACK AND LOOK FOR THESE PEOPLE SUCH AS DANNY, ALFREDO AND FRANK GUTIERREZ TO FIND THE TOMMY ESPINOZAS, ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO CAME OUT OF THERE TO TELL US ABOUT WHERE THEY CAME FROM AND TO SHARE THOSE STORIES WITH US.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS OUR MEMORIES BECAUSE MANY OF THE BARRIOS THEY CAME FROM NO LONGER EXIST.

>> YOU MENTIONED GOLDEN GATE, THAT WAS REPLACED BY THE AIRPORT, RIGHT?

>> YEAH, BY THE AIRPORT.

IN FACT, PART OF IT WAS NOW THERE SAY BANK OF AMERICA BUILDING ON IT, AND IN SOME PORTIONS YOU HAVE THE RENTAL CARS CAME IN AND WIPED US OUT INTO THE DISTRICT, RIGHT?

THIS HAS BEEN A BIG PROCESS FOR US.

WHEN I STARTED PLANNING THIS FIVE YEARS AGO, I KNEW THAT IN ORDER FOR ME TO CREATE, TO MOBILIZE OUR AUDIENCE AND EDUCATE OUR AUDIENCE AND CREATE A CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR GENERATION AND THE NEW GENERATION, I WOULD HAVE TO SURROUND OUR TEAM WITH GREAT STORYTELLERS, LIKE JESUS FERNANDEZ WITH CHANNEL 10.

>> SOMEBODY WE'VE HAD ON THE SHOW.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF TIME.

WHO IS YOUR AUDIENCE?

I'M SURE THE PEOPLE FEATURED IN IT, THE PEOPLE WHO GREW UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WATCHING THESE FOR NOSTALGIA.

BEYOND THAT, WHO IS THE AUDIENCE AND WHAT'S THE MESSAGE YOU ARE TRYING TO SEND?

>> THE MESSAGE IS TO RECORD OUR HISTORY, JOSE.

THE WHOLE PLATFORM IS TO INSPIRE AND TO COLLECT DATA AND ALLOW OUR AUDIENCE TO SHARE THE STORIES WITH THEIR KIDS.

OUR INDIRECT IMPACT HAS BEEN ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY, THE CHICANO LITERATURE PART NERD UP WITH US TO COLLECT DATA BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE CONNECTED WITH US.

WE HAVE THE SOUTH MOUNTAIN HIGH SCHOOL WITH THEIR MEDIA TECHNOLOGIES HAVE CREATED A PARTNERSHIP WHERE THE KIDS ARE TELLING THE STORIES ABOUT OUR BARRIOS, RIGHT?

SO THAT HAS BEEN A PROCESS FOR US.

THEY JUST PRODUCED THE FIRST ONE IN WHICH THEY INTERVIEWED ALEX CORONA OF CORONA RANCH, AND SO THE KIDS WERE ABLE TO LEARN, NOT HANDS-ON TRAINING AND PRODUCING, BUT ALSO SUBJECTED TO THE STORY LINES OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.

>> SO YOU ARE HAVING AN IMPACT.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

>> YES, YES.

>> FOUNDER OF ARIZONA BARRIO STORIES.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RECOGNITION BY COX COMMUNICATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

.

TED: AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.