[♪ THEME MUSIC ♪] >>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS, ON ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," ZILLOW PUTS A PAUSE ON ITS HOME-BUYING BUSINESS, WHAT THAT COULD MEAN TO THE LOCAL REAL ESTATE ON "CRONKITE NEWS," HOW SOME COMMUNITIES ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA.

IT'S ALL AHEAD IN THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS.

>>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

FIVE MILITARY MEMBERS OF SENATOR KYRSTEN SINEMA MILITARY ROLE HAVE RESIGNED.

THEY CRITICIZED HER FOR OPPOSING PART OF PRESIDENT BIDEN PACKAGE.

THE VETERAN'S LETTER READS PART, QUOTE, YOU HAVE BECOME ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL OBSTACLES TO PROGRESS, ANSWERING TO BIG DONORS RATHER THAN YOUR OWN PEOPLE, AND ADDING, QUOTE, WE DO NOT KNOW WHO HAS YOUR EAR, BUT IT CLEARLY ISN'T US OR YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

SINEMA RESPONDED IN A STATEMENT SAYING SHE WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN GRATEFUL FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS' SERVICE TO OUR NATION.

>>> PFIZER TODAY SAID A BOOSTER SHOT OF ITS COVID-19 VACCINE SHOWS TO BE ALMOST 96% EFFECTIVE AGAINST THE COVID-19.

THE STUDY'S RESULTS AS CDC ADVISORS TODAY VOTED TO RECOMMEND BOTH THE MODERNA AND JOHNSON & JOHNSON VACCINES FOR BOOSTER SHOTS.

AS FOR THE CDC, IT'S NOW UP TO THE AGENCY'S DIRECTOR TO ACCEPT OR MODIFY THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION ALONG WITH DETAILED GUIDANCE ON MIXING AND MATCHING VACCINES.

>>> AND TODAY'S ARIZONA COVID REPORT SHOWS JUST UNDER 2500 CASES.

THE NUMBER OF COVID-RELATED FATALITIES IS GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION.

THE CHANGE IN DEATHS IS UP 39% IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS.

>>> ZILLOW HAS STOPPED ITS I-BUYING PROGRAM.

BUT IS THERE A MESSAGE HERE FOR THE ARIZONA HOUSING MARKET?

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH ASU REAL ESTATE PROFESSOR MARK STAPP.

MARK STAPP, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ZILLOW IS GOING HERE, THEY ARE PUTTING A PAUSE ON BUYING HOMES.

ARE YOU SURPRISED?

BECAUSE I WASN'T EVEN AWARE THAT ZILLOW IS IN THE BUSINESS OF BUYING HOMES.

>> YEAH, THIS HAS REVOLVE OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT'S MORE AN INTERNAL ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE, AND SO I DON'T -- AM I SURPRISED BY IT?

MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A HARBINGER OF A CHANGE IN THE MARKET AT ALL.

>> SO IT'S NOT A CANARY IN THE COAL MINE HERE?

>> NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

YOU HAVE OTHERS THAT ARE PICKING UP THE PACE AND MAINTAINING THEIR BUYING AND SELLING PACE.

>> SO THERE ARE OTHER I-BUYERS IN THE MARKET?

>> YEAH, THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.

THAT PLATFORM HAS EXPANDED SUBSTANTIALLY SINCE THE EARLY 2010S.

AND THE PHOENIX METRO AREA, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT -- THIS ISN'T A PLACE WHERE I-BUYING WAS REALLY LAUNCHED, AND IT WAS DEVELOPED HERE, TESTED HERE, AND EXPANDED FROM HERE, SO WE HAVE BEEN THE HOT BED FOR TESTING THESE KINDS OF -- YOU KNOW, BUSINESS MODELS AND PLATFORMS.

>> SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, 5%, 10% OF THE MARKET, HOW MUCH -- THIS SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER WAY OF FLIPPING HOMES?

>> ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT IS PROBABLY IN THE 10% RANGE.

IT HAS BEEN INCREASING, BUT I -- YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE 10% RANGE OF THE TRANSACTIONS, AND SO, YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH NECESSARILY TO COMPLETELY MOVE THE NEEDLE, BUT ON THE MARGINS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE INSTITUTIONAL BUYERS.

THEY HAVE CASH QUICKLY, WHICH MEANS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO BUY A HOME TO LIVE IN IT, AND THEY ARE USING A MORTGAGE, THEY ARE COMPETING WITH THEM, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, AND THE I-BUYERS ARE REALLY FOCUSSED IN THE PART OF THE MARKETPLACE WHERE THERE IS THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE HOMES ANYWAY.

THE I-BUYERS LIKE TO BUY IN THE LOWER TO MIDDLE-RANGE HOMES, BECAUSE IT'S QUICKER AND EASIER TO SELL THEM.

THE SMALL INVENTORY OVERALL IN METRO PHOENIX, WHICH IS PART OF THE PROBLEM WE HAVE OVERALL IN GENERAL, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN PRICE SEGMENTS, WHERE THE AMOUNT OF INVENTORY IS EVEN TIGHTER.

I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MONTHS RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE ARE PRICE SEGMENTS WHERE YOU ARE HARD PRESSED TO FIND ANYTHING.

>> WOW.

>> AND THESE GUYS WILL COMPETE IN THAT -- THAT RANGE, AND UP INTO THE -- YOU KNOW, THE MIDDLE MARKET.

>> AND AGAIN THE ATTRACTION IS, YOU BASICALLY SELL TO THESE I-BUYERS, AND YOU CAN STAY IN YOUR HOME FOR A WHILE, OR AS LONG AS YOU NEED TO, AND ONCE THEY GET THE HOME, THEY RENOVATE IT REAL QUICKLY, AND FLIP IT RIGHT BACK ON THE MARKET AT A HIGHER PRICE.

>> YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON THE HOUSE.

THEY HAVE A FAIRLY SOPHISTICATED PROCESS.

EACH HAS AN OLD PROPRIETARY ALGORITHM FOR VALUING THE HOUSE.

BUT THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE CONDITION OF THE HOUSE, THEY HAVE A FAIRLY PROVEN METHOD, AND IT HAPPENS QUICKER THAN YOU AND I CAN GO IN AND RENOVATE HOUSES MANY TIMES.

IT'S A CONVENIENCE FOR SELLERS.

SO THIS IS A DOUBLE-EDGE SWORD.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE CLIMBED OUT OF THE GREAT RECESSION SO QUICKLY WAS BECAUSE OF INSTITUTIONAL BUYERS BUYING HOMING FOR RENT, AND WE HAVE SEEN FALLING FORECLOSURE RATES IN METRO PHOENIX, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE PLATFORMS THAT IF YOU HAVE TO SELL, THEY WILL BUY, AND THEY WILL DO IT VERY QUICKLY, SO THEY DO PROVIDE AN IMPORTANT SERVICE TO THE MARKETPLACE, ALTHOUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE VIEW THEM AS BAD AND COMPETITIVE, THEY PROVIDE A VALUABLE SERVICE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THE CONVENIENCE, AND THE TRADEOFF IS WHAT THEY WILL PAY YOU, VERSUS WHAT THEY GET TO SELL THE HOUSE FOR.

>> RIGHT.

AND ZILLOW SAYS THEY ARE BACKLOGGED WITH HOMES, THEY ARE GOING TO PUT A PAUSE BECAUSE OF SUPPLY, AND THEY ARE SAYING IT IS MATERIAL OF LABOR SHORTAGES.

A, ARE YOU BUYING THAT?

AND B, THAT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE MARKET, DOES IT?

>> IT SAYS THE MARKET IS REALLY HEALTHY, AND THE BACKLOG I DO BELIEVE.

EVERYBODY THAT IS IN THIS BUSINESS IS FACING THE SAME KINDS OF ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO MATERIALS AND -- AND LABOR ISSUES AND PUSHING SCHEDULES OUT, SUPPLY CHAINS ARE STILL VERY MUCH CONSTRAINED, SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET MATERIALS FROM EVERYTHING FROM APPLIANCES TO FLOOR TILES, CARPETING, YOU RUN THE LITANY OF THINGS THAT WE PUT INTO HOMES, AND -- YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE DOING IT ON LARGE VOLUME, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU CAN RUN INTO A PROBLEM.

>> MARK STAPP, GOOD INFORMATION.

ALWAYS A PLEASURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> TED, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU.

>>> HORIZON," AN ARTIST USES CARTOONS TO HELP STOP THE SPREAD OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT COVID-19.

>>> A LOCAL ARTIST IS USING HIS CARTOONS TO HELP STOP THE SPREAD OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT COVID-19, AND ENL COURAGE THE LATINO/HISPANIC POPULATION TO GET VACCINATED.

LALO ALCARAS TALKED TO "HORIZONTE" HOST JOSE CARDENAS ABOUT THIS.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU ARE ARTIST AND RESIDENT AT THE STUDIES DEPARTMENT.

YOUR FIRST PROJECT THERE IS COVID, AND WORKING TO DISPEL SOME OF THE MYTHS.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE IMAGES YOU CREATED, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.

I THINK THERE ARE 20 -- 20 PIECES.

THE FIRST TWO THAT I WANT TO SHOW -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHOW ALL 20 -- BUT THE FIRST 2 FOCUS ON CHARACTERS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE MEXICAN COMMUNITY.

AND WE HAVE GOT SOME IMAGES OF THOSE TWO.

>> YES.

>> AND THEN THIS ONE.

WHAT WAS YOUR POINT WITH -- WITH THOSE TWO FIGURES?

>> WELL, THOSE TWO ARE -- ARE FROM MY -- MY REGULAR CARTOON THEME.

SO I ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY WITH USING, YOU KNOW, POP FIGURES FROM MEXICO OR FROM CHICANO CULTURE, OR U.S. LATINO CULTURE, SO USING THOSE IS ALREADY A THING I DO IN MY WORK, IN THIS CASE, I WAS TRYING TO OVERCOME VACCINE HESITANCY, SO I USED THE TWO, AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR RELATION -- THEIR FRAUGHT RELATIONSHIP TO EXEMPLIFY HOW FAR AWAY YOU SHOULD BE FROM OTHERS, AND MASKED, THAT WAS THE LITTLE JOKE, AND SO IT WAS TO GET A RECOGNIZABLE FIGURE, AND THEN GET THE EXTRA JOKE THAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN APART MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

AND THEN SECOND ONE IS A RIFT ON A FAMOUS CHICANO POSTER FROM THE LATE 60S FROM AN ARTIST IN COLORADO, SO I -- I USED HIS IMAGE, AND JUST CHANGED IT TO [ SPEAKING SPANISH ] VACCINE OR DEATH WITH SABATA TOLDING A GIANT SYRINGE FOR ITS -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A SWORD OR A RIFLE IN THE ORIGINAL IMAGE, I FORGET.

BUT AGAIN, TO USE A RECOGNIZABLE IMAGE AND RELATE TO MEXICAN CULTURE TOO.

AND PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THERE IS A CURRENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES, WHERE THE -- SOME OF THE MEXICAN STRONG MACHO MEN ARE LIKE, I DON'T NEED MEDICINE.

I DON'T NEED PREVENTATIVE CARE.

I DON'T NEED A VACCINE, OR MAYBE SECRETLY THEY ARE AFRAID OF NEEDLES.

>> IT COULD BE.

AND I WANT TO SHOW ABOUT FIVE MORE IMAGES THAT SHOW THE MYTHS OR CONCERNS THAT AREN'T VALID.

THE NEXT ONE POINTS OUT THAT LATINOS ARE THE GROUP THAT ARE MOST INFECTED BY THE VIRUS, AND THE VACCINES ARE NOT THAT DANGEROUS.

>> YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE -- YOU KNOW, DIRECTED -- DONE WITH THE GREAT ASSISTANCE OF DR. LOPEZ, AND USING FACTS AND RESEARCH.

I DO USE FACTS IN MY EDITORIAL CARTOONS, AND TRY NOT TO PROMOTE UNTRUTHS, AND THOSE ARE CARTOONS THAT ARE NO DIFFERENT, EXCEPT WITH THE ADDED RESPONSIBILITY OF -- YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SHARE MEDICALLY ACCURATE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW?

WE DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD PEOPLE, AND WE ARE COUNTERING MISINFORMATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO COUNTER ALL OF THOSE MYTHS AND URBAN LEGENDS, AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S USE -- YOU KNOW, VIC'S VAPO RUB INSTEAD.

>> YEAH, THESE THREE REALLY DO FOCUS ON WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE MESSAGE FROM THE ANTI-VAC-ERS, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TELLING YOU IT'S TOO DANGEROUS.

AND THE LAST ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE ANIMAL TREATMENT THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE NOW TURNING TO INSTEAD OF PROVEN VACCINE.

>> I MEAN, THE -- THERE -- THERE IS SO MUCH MISINFORMATION, AND WE FIND IT IN OUR OWN FAMILY MEMBERS.

I HAD OLD FRIENDS I HAVE HAD ARGUMENTS WITH, AND I TALKED MYSELF BLUE IN THE FACE, BUT I CONVINCED, YOU KNOW, MY MECHANIC TO GET THE SHOT, YOU KNOW.

HE IS A YOUNG LATINO, AND HE HAD ABSORBED SOME OF THESE STORIES AND URBAN LEGENDS AND MISINFORMATION THAT WE FIND ON THE INTERNET, THE MAGNETIC PROPERTY -- >> THE CHIP IN THE VACCINE.

>> YEAH, BECAUSE -- BILL GATES REALLY WANTS TO TALK TO US -- >> OF COURSE.

OF COURSE.

I'M GOING TO END THE INTERVIEW WITH ONE OF MY FAVORITE CARTOONS THAT YOU PUT IN THIS SET, AND IT'S YOU.

IT'S A SELF PORTRAIT OF YOU, GETTING A VACCINATION.

WHICH I THINK DOES SENT A MESSAGE, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE A ROLE MODEL, AND YOU CERTAINLY PROVE TO BE ONE.

>> I MEAN, I FELT -- I WAS ANTICIPATING MY VACCINATION SO MUCH.

I WANTED TO GET BACK TO NORMAL, AND I WAS HOPING THAT THE REST OF SOCIETY WANTED TO GET BACK TO NORMAL, AND THE MINUTE I COULD GET MY VACCINE, I GOT IT, AND I FELT BIONIC.

I FELT SO STRONG AND GOOD, AND MY ARM HURT, AND THAT'S FINE.

I GOT A LITTLE ILL THE NEXT DAY, BUT NOTHING COMPARED TO THE -- THE -- THE MISINFORMATION OF PEOPLE SAYING, OH, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE DIEING FROM THE VACCINE.

NO.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT IT.

>> THANK YOU.

AND GET VACCINATED.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

>>> AND OUR CELEBRATION OF "ARIZONA HORIZON"'S 40TH ANNIVERSARY CONTINUES TONIGHT WITH A CONVERSATION WITH ARIZONA PBS GENERAL MANAGER ADRIENNE FAIRWELL, WHO SPOKE TO "ARIZONA HORIZON'S" IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS PROGRAMMING ON PBS.

SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE.

>> YOU ARE MAKING YOUR WAY AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND INTRODUCING YOURSELF TO A LOT OF FOLKS HERE.

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ABOUT US?

WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ABOUT "HORIZON"?

>>> I'M HEARING GREAT THINGS ABOUT "HORIZON."

THE FIRST QUESTION I GET IS, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE HORIZON OFF ARE YOU?

AND MY ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY NOT.

IT IS SUCH A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE ARE FAIR AND BALANCED AND TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS THAT FILL THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE.

I HAVE TALKED TO SEVERAL CONGRESSMEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND EVERYTHING HAS GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT HORIZON, AND THAT SAYS TO ME ALSO THAT WE ARE A SHOW THAT IS ALL ABOUT POLITICS AND LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE DO IT IN A FAIR AND BALANCED WAY.

>> YEAH, THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

WERE YOU SURPRISED WHEN YOU CAME OUT HERE THAT THERE WAS A SHOW THAT WAS ON THE AIR FOR 40 YEARS?

>> I WAS VERY SURPRISED.

BECAUSE YOU SNEEZE AND THE SHOWS CHANGE SO QUICKLY.

SO TO SAY YOU HAVE LASTED FOR 40 YEARS, SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE CARE AND CONCERN THAT YOU TAKE TO REALLY PUT YOUR HEARTS AND YOUR MINDS AND YOUR PASSIONS INTO A SHOW LIKE THIS, AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE STILL WANT TO JOIN YOU.

>> YES.

>> SO THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE AS WELL.

>> YOU KIND OF REFERRED TO THIS EARLIER, BUT THE IMPORTANCE OF A SHOW LIKE "ARIZONA HORIZON" TO THE MISSION AT ARIZONA PBS.

>> IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND HERE IS WHY.

COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE JUST RELEASED OUR ARIZONA PBS STRATEGIC THREE-YEAR PLAN, AND AS PART OF THAT WE TACKLE SOLUTIONS-BASED JOURNALISM, SO A SHOW LIKE "ARIZONA HORIZON" ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.

AND "ARIZONA HORIZON" IS THAT.

WE TACKLE ISSUES AND NEEDS AND CONCERNS OF EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.

>> AND IT'S -- FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FOR YEARS NOW, IT'S RELATIVELY RARE FOR A PBS AFFILIATE TO HAVE A NIGHTLY NEWS SHOW.

>> IT'S RARE AND REALLY UNHEARD OF.

IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF YOU APPEARS BEHIND THE DESK, TED, AND IT JUST HAPPENS.

WE WISH IT WERE THAT EASY, BUT IT'S NOT.

SO THE PLANNING THAT IT TAKES TO PUT A SHOW LIKE THIS TOGETHER EVERY NIGHT, YOU REALLY ONLY HEAR ABOUT THAT IN COMMERCIAL NEWS MEDIA, SO FOR A PUBLIC STATION TO BE ABLE TO PULL THIS OFF, AND WITH THE HIGH-QUALITY LEVEL THAT WE PULL THIS OFF I THINK IS KUDOS TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WORK VERY HARD BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF A PROGRAM LIKE "ARIZONA HORIZON" TO THE COMMUNITY.

>> MAJORLY IMPORTANT.

AGAIN, HERE IS WHY.

WE TACKLE ISSUES -- YOU TACKLE ISSUES THAT MATTER TO THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA, AND WHILE WE ARE LOCATED IN A SPECIFIC AREA OF ARIZONA, WE TACKLE ISSUES THAT REALLY IMPACT ARIZONA AS THE STATE, RIGHT?

WE TACKLE HOMELESSNESS, IMMIGRATION, POLITICAL DIVISIVENESS SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S THERE.

WE FACE IT HEAD ON.

WATER QUALITY.

RIGHT HERE ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," AND SO AS A RESULT OF THAT -- I MEAN, I WAS WATCHING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND YOU ALL WERE -- I BELIEVE I MIGHT HAVE SENT AN EMAIL SAYING GREAT SHOW TONIGHT.

SOMETHING CAME OUT ABOUT ONE OF THE BOOSTERS, AND YOU ALL WERE RIGHT ON TOP OF IT, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE ARE THE RESOURCE THAT IS UNBIASED AND FAIR, BUT WE HELP TO INFORM AND EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> AND TO THAT END, THE IMPORTANCE OF ARIZONA PBS, PBS IN GENERAL, NON-PROFIT.

IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL NEWS.

WE'RE NOT SELLING TOASTERS HERE.

>> NO.

>> THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT?

>> WITHOUT UNDUE INFLUENCE IS WHAT I OFTEN TALK ABOUT, THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT WITHOUT UNDUE INFLUENCE, AND WITHOUT HAVING TO FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE CREDITED TOWARDS A CERTAIN PARTY, RACE, ETHNICITY, RELIGION, GENDER.

I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S WHY BEING A PUBLIC MEDIA STATION, AND BEING ABLE TO PULL OFF A SHOW LIKE "ARIZONA HORIZON" IS SO IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE YOU CAN TRUST THE INFORMATION YOU ALL SHARE ON A NIGHTLY BASIS IS ACCURATE.

>> YES, YES, AND WE WORK HARD ON THAT.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WHERE DO YOU SEE NEWS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE OF BROADCASTING?

YOU HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA, AND EVERYONE SAYING THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.

WHERE DO YOU SEE A SHOW LIKE "ARIZONA HORIZON" ON THE HORIZON?

>> I SEE IT DOING EVEN BETTER THINGS, BECAUSE WITH THE MULTI-PLATFORM APPROACH WE'RE GOING TO TAKE, WE CAN ONLY GO UP.

WE'LL HAVE IT HERE, ON THE DIGITAL, ON THE WEB, AND THROUGHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO IT'S A PHASED APPROACH, SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK WE DO, BUT DO IT IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY THAT IS APPROPRIATE AND MAKES SENSE.

A SHOW LIKE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE MISINFORMATION AND DIS-INFORMATION THAT IS OUT THERE, TED.

PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS TURN TO YOU AND "ARIZONA HORIZON" TO GET THE MOST ACCURATE AND UP TO DATE INFORMATION.

AND THAT IS IMPORTANT.

>> THANK YOU.

AND GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

♪ >>> IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS, ON CRONKITE NEWS, A LOOK AT EFFORTS TO MAKE FOR CAR-FREE STREETS IN LOS ANGELES.

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