>> COMING UP IN THE NEXT HOUR OF LOCAL NEWS ON ARIZONA PBS ON "ARIZONA HORIZON" - THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSES, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE GOVERNOR'S FIGHT WITH THE FEDS OVER COVID WORKPLACE MITIGATION RULES.

ON CRONKITE NEWS - HOW A NEW GRANT TO HELP EDUCATE YOUNG CHILDREN COULD HELP EASE TEACHING SHORTAGES.

AND ON "BREAK IT DOWN" - THE LACK OF NATIONAL ATTENTION REGARDING MISSING WOMEN OF COLOR.

THAT'S ALL AHEAD ON THE NEXT HOUR ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON".

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE PHOENIX SUNS THIS AFTERNOON ARE PUSHING BACK AGAINST A REPORT BY AN NBA INSIDER THAT THE NBA IS INVESTIGATING SUNS TEAM OWNER ROBERT SARVER FOR ALLEGED RACISM, SEXISM AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

SARVER HAS RESPONDED THAT HE'S QUOTE, "SHOCKED" BY THE ALLEGATIONS AND WHAT HE CALLED, QUOTE, "VAGUE SUGGESTIONS BY ANONYMOUS SOURCES."

SARVER ADDED THAT HE, QUOTE, "REJECTS ANY INSINUATION OF PERSONAL OR ORGANIZATIONAL RACISM OR GENDER DISCRIMINATION."

ARIZONA IS IN DANGER OF LOSING CLOSE TO 20 PERCENT OF FEDERAL RENT-RELIEF MONEY FOR RURAL AREAS.

THE "ARIZONA REPUBLIC" REPORTS THAT THE REASON IS THAT THE STATE HAS SO FAR SPENT JUST 10 PERCENT OF FUNDS TO HELP RENTERS STAY IN THEIR HOMES, AND THE U.S. TREASURY DEPARTMENT PLANS TO START REALLOCATING THE RELIEF MONEY FROM STATES, CITIES AND COUNTIES THAT AREN'T USING IT TO AREAS THAT ARE.

THE REPUBLIC REPORTS THAT ARIZONA HAS AMONG THE BIGGEST NEEDS FOR RENTAL AID, BUT ONE OF THE LOWEST DISTRIBUTION RATES.

THE ARIZONA SENATE'S SELF-STYLED AUDIT LIVES ON.

WORD TODAY THAT MARICOPA COUNTY WILL PAY FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN JOHN SHADEGG $500 AN HOUR TO OVERSEE SENATE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE COUNTY'S COMPUTER ROUTERS AND DIGITAL LOGS.

THE COUNTY PREVIOUSLY REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SENATE TO KEEP THE ROUTERS AWAY FROM CYBERNINJAS SO AS NOT TO JEOPARDIZE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION INCLUDING LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA.

ELECTION CONSPIRACISTS BELIEVE THAT THE ROUTERS WERE SOMEHOW CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET AND THUS COMPROMISED, THAT'S DESPITE PROFESISONAL AUDITS COMMISSIONED BY THE COUNTY THAT SHOWED THERE WAS NEVER ANY SUCH INTERNET CONNECTION.

NATIONAL NEWS - THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TODAY AGAIN REFUSED TO IMMEDIATELY BLOCK A CONTROVERSIAL NEW TEXAS LAW THAT BANS MOST ABORTIONS AFTER 6-WEEKS.

THE HIGH COURT "DID" SAY IT WOULD "FAST"- TRACK THE CASE AND HEAR ARGUMENTS CHALLENGING THE LAW ON NOVEMBER 1ST.

AND THE COURT TODAY ALSO REJECTED A REQUEST FROM TEXAS OFFICIALS TO USE THE CASE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO OVERTURN ROE V. WADE.

PFIZER TODAY REPORTED THAT IT'S COVID-VACCINE IS 91 PERCENT EFFECTIVE AGAINST SYMPTOMATIC COVID IN KIDS AGED 5-TO-11.

PFIZER SAID IT CONDUCTED THE TRIAL WITH ABOUT 2000 KIDS.

PFIZER IS RECOMMENDING A 2-DOSE REGIMEN FOR THAT AGE-GROUP.

FDA VACCINE ADVISORS WILL MEET NEXT WEEK TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDING AUTHORIZATION.

AND "ARIZONA'S" COVID REPORT FOR THE DAY SHOWS OVER 3-THOUSAND NEW CASES, THAT'S HIGHER THAN IT'S BEEN OF LATE.

THERE WERE ALSO 51- ADDITIONAL COVID-RELATED "FATALITIES" ON RECORD, ALSO A SLIGHT INCREASE.

AS FOR HOSPITALIZATIONS: THAT NUMBER IS AS HIGH AS IT'S BEEN IN OVER A WEEK, WITH ICU UNITS USED BY COVID PATIENTS AT A "THREE" WEEK HIGH.

TIME NOW FOR THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE AND AFTER A BUSY WEEK IN THE NEWS, JOINING US TONIGHT IS LUIGE DEL PUERTO OF ARIZONA CAPITOL TIMES AND JEREMY DUDA OF ARIZONA MIRROR.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, A LOT OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.

LET'S GET IT GOING WITH THE GOVERNOR AND OSHA SAYING WE DON'T SEE EYE TO EYE ON HEALTHCARE WORKERS.

FEDERAL RULES HAVE SAFETY FOR HEALTHCARE WORKERS, BUT THAT IS DELEGATED TO MANY STATES TO ENFORCE THEIR OWN RULES FOR HEALTH WORKERS AND ALL KINDS OF HEALTH WORKERS, BUT THE RULES SAY THE SAFETY RULES BY THE STATES HAVE TO BE AS GOOD AS OTHER BETTER THAN OSHAS RECALLS, SOCIAL DISTANCING, COUPLE OF POLICIES ARE SUB PAR.

>> THIS MEANS THAT THE STATE IS SUGGESTING IF YOU OP DON'T GET YOUR ACT STOOD.

FEDERAL ASSESSORS WILL BE OUT THERE.

>> THEY ARE SAYING THAT HE COULD DO THE RULES, IT AFFECTS THE RULES IN PLACE, ARE NOT UP TO MEETING OSHA'S STANDARDS.

THE STATE DOES NOT PASS IT IMMEDIATELY, IF HE IMPLEMENT THEM THE FEDS MAY MOVE TO TAKE DRASTIC ACTION.

>> THE GOVERNOR CALLED IT A POLITICAL STUNT.

A DESPERATE HOUR AND IT WON'T BE ALLOWED WITHOUT A FIGHT.

MUCH OF A FIGHT DO YOU PUT UP.

>> THE GOVERNMENT CAN PUT UP A FIGHT, BUT THE FEDS HOLD THE STRINGS.

THERE'S SO MANY WAYS THE FEDS SAY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO COMPLY WITH US - THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE THREAT OF OSHA, OVERTAKING THE ENFORCEMENT OF SAFETY RULES, AND HEALTH WORKERS, ALL KIDS OF WORKERS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BUSINESSES IN ARIZONA FEAR.

THEY DON'T WANT OSHA TO RUN THE RULES ON BEHALF OF THE STATE.

THEY HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR OWN LOCAL INDUSTRIAL SAFETY COMMISSION.

AND THAT IS WORKING WELL.

ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS MADE IS THAT LOOK, THE OSHA PROGRAMME THAT WE RUN IS WORKING.

AND THEY ARE SAYING WE IMMEDIATELY INITIATED THE RULE-MAKING PROCESS TO COMPLY WITH THIS RULE THAT OSHA WANTS TO DO.

THAT TAKES TIME TO CREATE AND GET DONE.

>> DO THOSE ARGUMENTS - ARE THEY GOOD ARGUMENTS.

STRONG ENOUGH WHEN THE STATE AND THE GOVERNOR - THEY HAVE A TOUGH RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FEDS.

THERE'S A BACK AND FORTH REGARDING FEDERAL FUNDS.

>> IT MAY WELL NOT CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT WITH THE FEDS.

THEY HOLD A LOT OF CARDS.

THERE'S ACRIMONIOUS.

AS THE ADMINISTRATION COVERS.

THAT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH.

AND THAT GOES SOMETHING THAT LUIGI MENTIONED HAVING A LOCAL BUSINESS HAVING THE BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE REGULATOR, A LOT OF THEM SEE IT DOUBLE BY SO.

AND REPUBLICANS HAVE IT FAVORABLE TO BUSINESS INTERESTS AND DEMOCRATIC IN WASHINGTON.

NOT REALLY.

>> WE SHOULD MENTION THAT JEREMY'S SON IS MAKING A DEBUT, DOING A FINE JOB.

WE'LL KEEP ON ROLLING THROUGH HERE.

LET'S MOVE ON AND TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNOR WITH ANOTHER FIGHT.

THAT IS WITH THE CITY OF TUCSON.

HEAR PUSH AND SHOVING HERE.

AIR WORKERS HAVE TO BE VACCINATED BY THE 1ST.

THE GOVERNOR SAYS I'M NOT ANTI-VACCINE MANDATE.

I'M NOT ANTI-VACCINE, JUST THE AIN'T VACCINE MANDATE.

WE PASSED A STATUTE SAYING YOU CAN'T IMPOSE A VACCINE MANDATE.

THAT IS IN THE COURTS.

THE STATE LOST THE FIRST ROUND AND THE MAJOR SAID THE GOVERNMENT IS COMING UP FOR THE FACT THAT THEY MISMANAGED.

THE CITY ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO DEAL WITH IT: IT'S TRUE THAT THE COURT STRUCK DOWN THAT LAW: IT'S A WAY FOR WORKERS TO ALLOW FOR EXEMPTIONS, AND THAT MAY BE THE CRUX OF THE FACTOR.

>> DO YOU HAVE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS WAS THE PHRASE ON RELIGIOUS TERMS, AGAIN.

IS THAT GOING CONVINCE WHO NEEDS TO BE - WHO NEEDS TO BE CONVINCED THAT TUSCON CAN'T DO WHAT IT WANTS TO DO.

>> THAT COULD BE COMPELLING.

REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS IS NOT DEFINED IN THE LAW, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT SEVERE RELIGIOUS OBJECTION IS.

THAT IS AN ISSUE COMING UP A LOT.

PEOPLE CLAIMING RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS TO THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTORS.

THERE'S NO REAL ENTITIES SAYING THAT IT GOES AGAINST RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OR PRACTICES, WHAT RIGHT DO THEY HAVE TO VET THE CLAIMS.

IT'S PEOPLE MAKING A RELIGIOUS OBJECTION, OBJECTING FOR OTHER REASONS, AND IF IT IS SINCERE, WHAT IS A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION.

THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE LEGAL FIGHT MAY BE A LITTLE MORE... >> ALL RIGHT.

AND LOOK AT THE PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS FOR THIS.

>> IF THE CITY OF TUSCON INSISTS THAT THIS IS THE CASE, WE SEE THE LOCAL POLICE FORCE OBJECT TO A MANDATE.

AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT.

IN THE CITY OF TUESDAY ON, A POLICE UNION SAID YOU ARE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT POLICE MEN AND WOMEN WHO POTENTIALLY ARE GOING BE AFFECTED BY THIS.

THERE ARE POSSE DEBATES GOING ON.

THERE ARE PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS ON THE GROUND AND IT'S A PROBLEM RE ENFORCEMENT.

>> TO DOES CUES THIS STORY, WE DID IT A WHILE BACK, WE ARE AT IT AGAIN WITH TAPPING SCHOOL TRUST FUND TO PAY FOR EDUCATION, THE GOVERNOR DID IT ONCE.

IF HE WANTS TO DO IT AGAIN, IT WILL BE A ROUGHER PASS.

TALK ABOUT THIS.

>> WE HAD A SPECIAL ELECTION IN 2015, TAKING STATE TRUST LANDS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD A LOT OF CONTROL.

IT CAN ONLY HAVE SPECIFIC USES.

VOTERS INCREASING FUNDING TO SETTLE A LAWSUIT.

THE GOVERNMENT DID NOT GET FEDERAL APPROVAL.

AT THE TIME THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T NEED IT.

IT PASSED.

A LAWSUIT WAS FILED AND THEY WENT BACK AND SAID HEY, CAN YOU GIVEN US THE OKAY.

THE JUDGE IS SAYING THE LAWSUIT.

GOING ON FIVE YEARS LATER IS IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN WHEN THIS EXPIRES IN 2025.

YOU CAN'T WAIT UNTIL AFTER, YOU HAVE TO ANSWER PERMISSION FIRST.

THIS GOES BACK TO THE ENABLING ACT.

ARIZONA BECOMING A STATE.

AND SERVICE A CART PULLING THE HORSE.

AND THE JUDGES SAYING DON'T DO IT AGAIN.

>> THE STATE PROBABLY WILL TRY IT AGAIN.

AND 2025.

WE ARE LOOKING AT - IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, 70 MILLION A YEAR.

THE STATE MAY EXPEND THIS OR INCREASE ALLOCATION FROM THE TRUST FOUND.

THE JOB IS SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS YOU ASK FOR PERMISSION.

WHAT HAPPENED IS YES ASKED CHRISTIAN AFTER THE FACT THAT THEY HAD APPROVED.

CHRISTIAN CINEMA MADE IT HAPPEN, AND AFTER THE FACT GAVE HIS PERMISSION TO DO IT.

>> THE GOVERNMENT IS CALLING IT JUDICIAL OVERREACH, A PRAYS HE USED BEFORE AND IS USING IT AGAIN.

WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES.

>> JEREMY, WHO IS RON WATKINS, AND WHY DOES HE WANT TO BECOME AN ARIZONA REPRESENTATIVE.

>> THE SECOND QUESTION I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

IT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH THE ELECTION FRAUD THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT DID.

HE'S MOSTLY KNOWN WITH THE CUANON THEORY, BELIEVING IN A SATANIC RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT.

STARTED ON INTERSTATE CHAT ROOMS MANAGED BY RON FOR A LONG TIME.

HE WAS - HE WAS THE PERSON KNOWN AS "Q", LEADING CLUES ABOUT THE DEEP STATE TRYING TO TAKE DOWN DONALD TRUMP.

HE POPS UP TO RUN FOR THE DISTRICT.

HE REGISTERED TO VOTE A FEW DAYS BEFORE THAT HAPPENED.

OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT.

IN A CONDO OWNED BY A PROMINENT LOCAL CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

HE'S RUNNING FOR CONGRESS, AND IT PROMISES TO BE A CIRCUS.

>> HE POSED WITH THE GOVERNOR, WHO BELIEVES A LOT OF THE THEORIES.

>> THE REAL QUESTION IS WHERE DOES HE LIVE.

YOU HAVE TO BE AN ELECTOR.

TO RUN FOR CONGRESS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN THE DISTRICT.

IT'S INTERESTING HE'S RUNNING AND CHALLENGING WHILE LIVING IN THE VALLEY.

>> HE SUPPOSEDLY MOVED TO ARIZONA STATE.

HE LIVED IN DANJUMA, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, A HOTEL LAYOVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG HE WAS THERE.

HE SAID HE LASS FAMILY, NO DETAILS.

DOES HE HAVE A CHANCE?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IF IT'S WITHIN 25% OF REPUBLICANS, THAT'S THE ONLY POPULATION VOTING.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN ARIZONA.

EVEN IN THE PRIMARY.

WE WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT HIM IN ANY OTHER YEAR.

IT WOULD BE A FRENCH CANDIDATE.

IT'S CONSIDERING TO BE THE MINE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE RAISED A LOT OF MONEY, THAT YOUR IDEAS ARE MARKETABLE IN THE MARKETPLACE.

A LOT OF THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN.

I'M CURIOUS, WHERE DID HE LIFE.

>> THAT'S A QUESTION NO.1 FOR LUIGI, WHERE DO YOU LIVE.

>> AGREEMENT JOB.

FOR ALL OF US.

BLESS YOU FOUR SITTING THROUGH THE HEARINGS, WHAT'S THE LATEST WITH THE REDRAWING OF CONGRESSIONAL AND LEGISLATIVE MAPS.

>> THEY HAVE HOPE TO APPROVE A DRAFT MAP.

BY THE END OF A MEETING ON THURSDAY.

THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

FLARING UP OVER THE LEGISLATIVE MESS MUCH ONE OF THE REPUBLICAN COMMISSIONERS TOOK PROPOSED DISTRICT FOR A SOUTHERN ARIZONA BUSINESS GROUP WHICH HE WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER, AND DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS OBJECTED TO THIS, SPECIALLY THE REARRANGING OF THE MAP.

PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED.

WE'LL COME BACK NEXT WEEK, THE TWO DEMOCRATIC COMMISSIONERS WILL THROW CHANGES TO THE SOUTHERN ARIZONA PART OF THE MAP.

WE HOPE TO COME ABOUT AND IMPROVE BOTH.

THE CONGRESSIONAL MAP LOOKS CLOSER TO FINISHED.

THERE'S NOT NEARLY AS MUCH DISAGREEMENT.

JUST HAGGLING OVER LINES IN THE NORTH VALLEY, THAT LOOKS CLOSER TO FINISH THAN I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'LL FINISH BOTH OF THESE NEXT THURSDAY, DEFINITELY THE CONGRESSIONAL.

>> BEFORE WE GO, ANYONE HAVE SOMETHING TO WORRY ABOUT FARCE ENCUMBRANCE.

>> TOM, HIS DISTRICT IS A LOT MORE REPUBLICAN, AND ANY REPUBLICAN HOPING FOR PATRICK'S SEAT TO BE CONSERVATIVE WILL BE DISAPPOINTED.

DAVID SHLIKER FROM A REPUBLICAN TO A COMPETITIVE DISTRICT.

COUNCIL GREECEMAN DRAWN INTO THE SAME DISTRICT.

HE MAY OPT TO RUN IN A YOU FRIENDLIER DISTRICT.

>> OKAY, GOOD WORK, STICK TO IT.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON THE JOURNALIST ROUNDTABLE.

>> LUIGI, THIS IS YOUR LAST APPEARANCE, WHERE ARE YOU GOINGS?

>> I'M GOING TO DENVER, MANAGING A POLITICO MAGAZINE, I'M EXCITED AND SAD, THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, I'VE BEEN HEART BROKEN TO SAY GOODBYE TO PEOPLE I HAVE LOVED.

>> WE LOVE YOU, WE LOVE HAVING YOU ON THE SHOW.

JEREMY DOES, HIS KID DOES, HE CAN'T STAY OFF THE CAM YES.

GREAT JOB.

BEST OF LUCK, CONGRATULATIONS TOO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YOU BET.

UP NEXT, WE TALK ABOUT THE "HISTORY" OF THE JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE AS WE CONCLUDE OUR COVERAGE OF ARIZONA HORIZON'S 40TH ANNIVERSARY.

>> IT'S BEEN MY HONOR AND PLAYER TO BE WITH ARIZONA HORIZON FOR 31 OF 40 YEARS.

>> HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.

>> HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.

>> HAPPY ANNIVERSARY "ARIZONA HORIZON."

>> FROM THE PLACE I CALLED00M FOR THE LAST 14 YEARS, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY "ARIZONA HORIZON", HERE IS TO MANY MORE.

OUR JUST-COMPLETED JOURNALISTS' ROUNDTABLE CONTINUES A LONGSTANDING FRIDAY NIGHT TRADITION ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

AND TONIGHT WE CONCLUDE OUR COVERAGE OF HORIZON'S 40TH ANNIVERSARY BY SPEAKING TO A ROUNDTABLE ORIGINAL, HOWIE FISCHER, WHO ALONG WITH A LEGION OF FELLOW JOURNALISTS HAS HELPED MAKE THE ROUNDTABLE ONE OF HORIZON'S MOST POPULAR SEGMENTS.

>> ALWAYS A PLEASURE, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF YOU, GOOD TO SEE YOU ON SET.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE JOURNALISTS ROUNDTABLE.

WHEN YOU FIRST STARTED DOING THIS... >> I HAD HAIR.

>> YOU HAD HAIR, DID YOU THINK IT WOULD BE AROUND FOR 40 YEARS.

>>.

>> AS YOU KNOW IT STARTED WITH THE CONFORMATION HEARING.

AND MORPHED IN '82 WHEN I STARTED DOING IT.

IT WAS GETTING TOGETHER AND BEING A LITTLE SMART ARSE ABOUT THINGS, WHO KNEW THIS, HAS GONE THROUGH MANY ITERATIONS, GOING BACK TO MICHAEL GRANT.

THERE'S A PERIOD I WAS HOSTING FRIDAY EDITION, THAT SCARED PEOPLE AND THEY HIRED YOU.

>> HOW WAS IT PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN THE DAY IT SEEMED THERE WAS A LOT OF OPINION.

>> THEY SUICIDE A LOT OF COLUMNIST.

PEOPLE LIKE KEVIN WILLIE FROM "THE REPUBLIC", PEOPLE FROM "THE GAZETTE", AND "NEW TIMES", THERE WAS A LITTLE MORE OPINION, THE LINE IS MORE ANALYTICAL.

EVERYONE OF OUR VIEWERS IMPOSE WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE WEEK.

WHAT THEY WANT TO KNOW IS WHY IT HAPPENED.

THEY WANT TO THE PEEL BACK THE CURTAINS, THAT'S WHAT I SEE "ARIZONA HORIZON" DOING, HERE IS THE STORY YOU ARE NOT READING IN THE BLACK AND WHITE BENEATH THE BYLINE.

>> THE NEWS LANDSCAPE.

VASTLY DIFFERENT TO NOW.

>> VASTLY DIFFERENT.

WE HAD A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR.

THEY HAD TO WORK TOGETHER.

THAT MEANT A LOT MORE COOPERATION AND UNDERSTANDING.

WE EVENT INTO THE AREA, EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT JOURNALISM.

HE WAS THE TRUMP BEFORE TRUMP.

>> IT CHANGED WITH EVERY GOVERNOR, WE HAVE YOUNGER JOURNALISTS, AND AS MANY.

IT'S A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE.

HOW MANY SOCIAL MEDIA IS OUT THERE.

>> IT'S THERE, AND HOW RIGHT NOW.

THE JOURNALIST ROUNDTABLE, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET THE STORES AND PUT A POLISH ON THEM.

>> IT MAKES IT MORE IMPORTANT.

AS YOU POINT OUT.

YOU CAN GO TO YOUTUBE, TWITTER, THE SITES AND GET A SKEW OF THINGS.

I THINK THAT MAKES WHAT WE DO MORE IMPORTANT.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU PICK UP THE REPUBLIC, THE STAR, PICKING UP NOW TIMES.

YOU GET ALL THE REST OF THIS.

AND PEOPLE WATCHING DEPEND ON US TO CUT THE FOG.

THAT CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE AUDIT.

THEY HOPE WE CAN CUT THROUGH THAT TO SAY HERE IS WHAT THEY ARE CLAIMING HERE IS WHAT AN BE PROVED.

>> IN A ROUNDTABLE QUESTIONS HAVE TO BE CONDENSED.

WE HAVE TO GET THE FACTS AND NOT GO ON AND ON, IT'S NOT AN AFFIDAVIT.

>> DOES TO IT HELP WRITING IT THAT YOU HAVE TO CONDENSE IT.

>> IN A LOT OF WAYS, IT MAY BE A BETTER WRITER, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I DON'T GET TO DO ONE OF 1500, 2,000 WORD OPUSES, AND AS MAKING THE CASE, I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO RUN OFF AT THE MOUTH.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SAY WHAT IS THE NUT.

THE KEY OF STORY, HOW DO WE GET THAT ACROSS IN A SIMPLE WAY, IN A WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND EXPLAIN 1912 WHEN THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION WAS PASSED.

HERE IS WHAT THEY DID.

>> CAN'T START WITH THE MAGNA CARTER.

IS THERE A STORY THAT STICKS OUT THE MOST TO YOU.

IS IT THERE A STORY THAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD EXPLODE.

AND IT JUST DRIFTED AWAY.

>> YOU TALK ABOUT THE ALL FUEL SCANDAL.

IT RESULTED IN CURT ADAMS LOSING A JOB THERE.

IT NEVER WENT AS MUCH AS ANYONE THOUGHT.

THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS.

FLEW UNDER THE RADAR.

I'M AT "THE CAPITAL", LORI ROBERTS AT "THE CAPITAL", LARRY LOPEZ FOR APP AND WE WERE ALL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

TOO A CERTAIN EXTENT THAT IS A BUBBLE AND WE ARE MORE FOCUSES ONLY IT.

THE TRICKY PART IS GOING OUT IN THE REAL WORLD TO FIND NO ONE CARES ABOUT IT.

THAT'S A REALITY CHECK FOR US, AND IMPORTANT TO GET THE FEEDBACK, AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

IT COMES FROM THE VIEWERS THAT WRITE FOR THIS SHOW.

THEY SAID THAT, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT.

>> THE FACT THAT IT'S ON THE SHOW, IT IS IMPORTANT.

AND IF YOU WEREN'T AWARE THEN, YOU ARE NOW.

40 YEARS OF THE JOURNALISTS ROUND TAKE.

CONGRATULATIONS, THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP AND HELPING US SILL BRAT.

>> SO WE ARE DOING THIS ANOTHER 40 YEARS.

>> MARK IT DOWN.

>> I WILL.

[ ] >> THAT IS IT FOR NOW, I'M TED SYMONS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.