>> Ted: NEXT ON AS HORIZON, THE JOURNALIST'S ROUNDTABLE, FALL-OUT FROM GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, KATIE HOBBS AND INCREASED PRICES ON HALLOWEEN ITEMS.

WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

IT'S FRIDAY AND THAT MEANS IT'S TIME FOR THE JOURNALIST'S ROUNDTABLE AND JOINING US TONIGHT, LAURIE ROBERTS OF THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND JIM SMALL OF THE ARIZONA MIRROR AND MARY JO PITZL OF THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC AND AZCENTRAL.COM.

WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT.

LAURIE, WE'LL START WITH YOU AND IN OFFICE BREAK-IN AND THIS WHOLE THING TALK ABOUT THE IRONY.

>> ON TUESDAY MORNING, A YOUNG MAN BROKE INTO KATIE HOBBS' CAMPAIGN QUARTER AND ON WEDNESDAY EVENING, THE CAMPAIGN ANNOUNCED THAT SOMEONE HAD BROKEN IN AND THEY RAN A PICTURE OF HIM ALONG WITH A STATEMENT FROM THE CAMPAIGN MANAGER IMPLYING, INSINUATING, INFERRING THAT KARI LAKE'S FINGERPRINTS WERE ALL OVER THIS BECAUSE OF THE TENET OF VIOLENCE OUT THERE.

KARI LAKE WAS NOT HAPPY BECAUSE THEY'LL BE UNHAPPY AND POINTED OUT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE AND NOBODY KNEW WHO THE GUY WAS AND THE MOTIVATION COULD NOT BE ATTACHED.

WHEN REPORTERS ASKED, WAS YOUR CAMPAIGN INVOLVED AND SHE TOLD THE REPORTER, IT WAS A DESPICABLE QUESTION.

THE BIGGER QUESTION, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE MEDIA DIDN'T COME TO HER?

SHE DECIDED TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY, ALL CAPS, PRESS CONFERENCE WHERE SHE PROCEEDED TO HAUL THE MEDIA INTO HER WOODSHED AND BEAT THEM ABOUT THE HEAD AND SHOULDERS AND LECTURE US ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS COVERING A CAMPAIGN.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THE PRIS POLICE MADE A QUICK ARREST AND SOMEBODY RECOGNIZED THE PICTURE AND THE GUY WAS ARRESTED EARLIER.

SO THEY REARRESTED HIM AT THE COUNTY JAIL AND HE HAS NO POLITICAL MOTIVATION OR NOTHING ANYBODY COULD COME UP WITH.

THE IRONY, KARI LAKE IS HOLDING A CONFERENCE THAT THE MEDIA ALLOWED KATIE HOBBS TO SPREAD THIS FALSE NARRATIVE AND SHE SPENT THE LAST 16 MONTHS SPREADING A FALSE NARRATIVE THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND, IN FACT, HAS SUGGESTED THAT KATIE HOBBS BELONGS IN JAIL WITH NO EVIDENCE.

SO YES, I THINK THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK.

>> Ted: CRIES MALPRACTICE THAT HOBBS PULLED A STUNT AND A LOT OF LECTURING GOING ON HERE WITHOUT THE REALIZATION AS FAR AS I COULD TELL BECAUSE I WATCHED THIS THING THAT THE PRESS DID NOT SAY THAT SHE WAS INVOLVED.

THE PRESS SAID THAT SOMEONE FROM THE HOBBS' CAMPAIGN INFERRED THAT SHE WAS INVOLVED.

WHERE IS THE PROBLEM HERE?

>> AT LEAST IN ALL OF THE COVERAGE I READ, LOCAL COVERAGE, AND THAT I SAW, I THINK TO AN OUTLET, I THINK EVERYONE SAYS WHAT LAURIE SAID, NO EVIDENCE, NO INDICATION AT ALL OF WHO THE PERSON WAS, WHAT THE MOTE MOTIVATION WAS.

THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE END OF THE DAY FOR KARI LAKE CENTERED IT AROUND, ATTACKING REPORTERS AND WE SAW THAT AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND TOOK TURNS, ESSENTIALLY TREATING INDIVIDUAL REPORTERS SHE DOESN'T LIKE LIKE A PIÑATA TO SEND A MESSAGE TO HER BASE.

>> Ted: MISPRONOUNCING JEREMY DUDA'S NAME AND IS THAT WHAT WE'LL SEE FROM A GOVERNOR LAKE >> PERHAPS.

A BIG PART OF HER CAMPAIGN TACTICS, SHE'S RUNNING AGAINST THE MEDIA AND THE MEDIA IS THE ENEMY AND NO MATTER WHICH WAY THE ELECTION COMES OUT, WE'LL BE HEARING THAT, BASHING THE GOVERNOR.

>> Ted: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REACTION, WHICH ARGUABLY OVER THE TOP AND THE FACT IS, THE HOBBS' CAMPAIGN BLEW THIS MAKING THE INFERENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER JUMPING TO A CONCLUSION.

IT'S BEEN A CONTENTIOUS TIME AND KATIE HOBBS IS DEALING WITH DEATH THREATS AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND FEELS KARI LAKE INCITED WHICH THIS HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO GROW AND BLOSSOM BUT YOU DON'T JUMP TO THOSE CONCLUSIONED.

I WAS BUNGLED BY THE HOBBS' CAMPAIGN.

I WAS CHARACTERIZE THIS AS A MILDLY STUBBED TOE THAN ANY FLAT-OUT FALLING ON HER FACE.

IT WAS A MISSTEP AND LAKE DECIDED TO, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT SHE DOES IS BLOW UP.

BASHING THE MEDIA IS HER WHEELHOUSE.

>> Ted: WE FIND OUT THAT THE HUSBAND OF NANCY PELOSI IS SERIOUSLY ATTACKED IN HIS HOME BY A GUY WITH A HAMMING LOOKING FOR NANCY AND THIS LOOKS TO BE, BY ALL ACCOUNTS, A POLITICAL MOTIVE.

SO WE'RE LIVING IN CURIOUS TIMES.

>> WE ARE AND I THINK THAT GETS TO WHAT LAURIE MENTIONED EARLIER.

THERE ARE DEATH THREATS AND OFFICIALS THAT ARE QUIT THEIR JOBS AND HIRING ELECTION WORKERS BECAUSE WE WHAT SAW IN GEORGIA TWO YEARS AGO WHERE YOU HAD PEOPLE WHO OUT OF THEIR CIVIC DUTY WERE WORKING TO COUNT BALLOTS AND WERE SINGLED OUT AND NAMED AND DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD AND TREATED AS EVENTUALLY VILLAINS.

THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE THREATENED AND BEHEAD THE FRENCH REVOLUTION IF THE REPUBLICANS DON'T WIN AND THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENT WE'RE IN.

IT'S A CARRY SCARRY TIME.

THESE ATTITUDES ARE BREAD ONLINE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN THESE CIRCLES ARE COMING ACROSS WITH THESE MESSAGES AND ARE BEING RADICALIZED AND SEEING REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHAT TEND TO DISMISS AS OH, PEOPLE BLOWING OFF STEAM.

>> TO CANDIDATES WHO ARE THE SOURCE OF TO TAKE DOWN THE TEMPERATURE AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND HOW THAT MIGHT BE INTERPRETED.

THAT'S PROBABLY A BIG ASK FOR PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE OF A POLITICAL CONTEST.

ANYTHING TO DONE TO TAKE DOWN THE TEMPERATURE AND AVOID THESE -- I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE SENSES OFCONSEQUENCES OF THIS?

>> THAT STARTS WITH THE LEADERSHIP AND THE PARTIES AND A PARTICULAR PARTY IN THIS CASE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE DEMOCRATS DOING WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING.

BUT THEY'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE IF YOU SAY ANYTHING -- THEY TALK ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BUT IF YOU SPEAK, THEY COME DOWN ON YOU LIKE A TON OF BRICKS AND IT STARTS AT THE TOP AND THAT'S WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES.

>> Ted: MARY JO, BACK TO YOU ON THE BALLOT WATCHERS AND A JUDGE REFUSING TO BLOCK THEM.

TALK ABOUT THE GENERATE AT ENVIRONMENT AND THOSE WHO FILED SUIT WANTED THE JUDGE TO DO AND WHY THE JUDGE SAID UH-OH.

>> WE HAD THIS HAPPENING IN MARICOPA COUNTY FROM CLEAN ELECTION'S U.S.A. OR NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE ARIZONA CLEAN ELECTION'S COUNTY AND NOT TO BE CONFUSEDD WITH YAVAPAI COUNTY AND PROWLING AROUND DROP BOXES.

WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MARICOPA COUNTY, THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE ARMED, TACTILE GEAR AND CARRYING WEAPONS AND STANDING NEAR THE DROP BOXES SO THAT THEY CAN WATCH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO DROP OFF BALLOTS.

OSTENSIBLY LOOKING FOR PEOPLE BALLOT HARVESTING AND IF YOU COME IN AND BRINGING YOUR BALLOT AND YOUR WIFE'S BALLOT, AND DROPPING IT IN THE BOX, THAT'S TOTALLY LEGAL AND NO WAY FOR THESE WATCHERS TO KNOW THAT STUFF.

THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE COUPLE THAT THEY WERE FOLLOWED AND THESE WATCHERS WERE TRYING TO GET A PICTURE OF THEIR LICENSE PLATE.

IT'S SHEER INTIMIDATION.

THERE BEEN DIFFERENT RESPONSES FROM THE SHERIFF SAYING, IF I HAVE TO BABY-SIT THE DROP BOXES, WE WILL DO THAT.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE SHOWING UP IN THEIR HALLOWEEN COSTUMES AND FEARLESSLY DROPPING OFF BALLOTS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AFRAID OF YOU.

BUT THE INTENT CLEARLY, IS TO GET PEOPLE TO SORT OF BACK DOWN.

>> Ted: BUT THE JUDGE SAYS -- DOES HE CARE ABOUT THE INTENT?

HE BASICALLY SAID THIS INFRINGES ON FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND DOESN'T SEE INTIMIDATION SO FAR.

>> AND HE SAID, THIS IS THERE ARE OTHER LAWS THAT CAN GOVERN OTHER THINGS, CAN GOVERNOR VIOLENCE AND VARIOUS THINGS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN AND BETTER READDRESS THAT WOULD CHILL THE FREE SPEECH OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE STANDING AND SITTING 76 FEET AWAY RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE 75-FOOT LIMIT AND WATCHING MAILBOXES.

>> Ted: SAYING UNLESS THERE IS A LAW BROKEN, THIS IS FREE SPEECH AND WHAT'S HE SAYING?

>> MORE OR LESS AND PART OF THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING HERE IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE, RIGHT?

IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S AN INCIDENT WHERE THE POLICE ARE CALLED AND TED IS GETTING, YOU KNOW, CITED FOR INTIMIDATING LAURIE WHEN SHE DROPS OFF HER BALLOT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS IS HAPPENING.

A LOT OF THE FOLKS WATCHING ARE COVERING THEIR FACES AND HIDING IDENTITIES AND IT'S UNCLEAR WHO A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE.

>> IT'S CLEARLY -- THE MOTIVATION IS INTIMIDATION AND TO TRY TO GET EVIDENCE, WHICH THE PEOPLE WHO DID THE MULE'S MOVIE WAS NEVER ABLE TO PRODUCE IN 2020, AND TRYING TO GET THAT NOW.

THIS IS AN ORCHESTRATED EFFORT NATIONWIDE OR AT LEAST IN THE SWING STATES, WORKING WITH THE VOTE AND HOPING TO GET REAL-TIME INFORMATION TO THE SHERIFFS SO THAT THEY CAN, I GUESS, ARREST ANYBODY WHO'S DOING THIS MULE THING.

THE REASON THAT IT'S SO STUPID IS THAT ANYBODY CAN JUST DROP YOUR BALLOT INTO ANY U.S.

MAILBOX FOR THE NEXT THREE, FOUR, OR FIVE DAYS AND AVOID THIS.

ADDITIONALLY, THESE DROP BOXES ARE MONITORED AND THEY ARE VIDEOED AND I THINK THERE'S A LIVESTREAM YOU CAN WATCH.

SO IF YOU WANT TO WATCH THESE MULES BRING IN ALL OF THE BALLOTS, YOU CAN SIT ON YOUR COMPUTER AND DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS.

THE POINT OF THIS IS TO INTIMIDATE VOTERS INTO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT.

TAKING A PICTURE OF MY FACE AND TAKING A PICTURE OF MY LICENSE PLATE AND YOU CAN GET INFORMATION ON ME.

IF YOU'RE AN OLDER COUPLE, I THINK ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS OF VOTER INTIMIDATION WAS AN OLDER COUPLE CONFRONTED BY FIVE YOUNGER MEN AND PICTURES WERE TAKEN AND THIS IS WHERE THEY WERE FOLLOWED OUT OF THE PARKING LOT IN A CAR.

IT IS VOTER INTIMIDATION.

AND TRY TO GET PEOPLE NOT TO VOTE.

>> Ted: DO YOU NEED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SAYING I SAW THEM FOLLOW AND WHAT I CONSIDERED INTIMIDATION AND WHAT DOES THIS JUDGE NEED?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

HE DID RIGHT HE WAS STRUGGLING TO FIND FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND WE SHOULD BE PROTECTIVE OF FREE SPEECH RIGHTS.

I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE AN IN-YOUR-FACE RESPONSE TO WATCHERS AND TAKING PICTURES AND SHOWING UP IN THEIR HALLOWEEN COSTUMES AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO HAVE -- TO IMPOSE AN INJUNCTION.

>> Ted: THIS IS A COORDINATED EFFORT AND THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH A MULE'S GROUP AND CLEAN ELECTION'S U.S.A. AND NOT ARIZONA CLEAN ELECTIONS.

HAVE THEY FILED SUIT?

>> I THINK I SAW SOMETHING TODAY THAT THEY AGREED TO GO TO COURT AND TRY TO GET THEM TO CHANGE THEIR NAME AND STOP USING THE NAME AND THIS IS BY ALL EVIDENCE, THIS IS A NATIONALLY COORDINATED THING AND THERE WAS A GREAT STORY YESTERDAY ON THURSDAY OUTLINING EXACTLY HOW THIS IS ORGANIZED ONLINE AND GETTING THE INFORMATION TO TRUE-THE-VOTE AND SENDING THIS TO A NONPROFIT BY PINAL COUNTY SHERIFF, LAMB, AND ESSENTIALLY FROM THERE, I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT GOES.

BUT THAT'S THE IDEA.

I THINK IT'S TO TRY TO GATHER THE EVIDENCE THAT DIDN'T EXIST FROM THE 2020 ELECTION THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PRODUCE IN THE MOVIE.

THIS TIME, TO BE ABLE TO SHOW WHAT HAPPENED.

>> WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE DO THEY HAVE?

AGAIN, YOU CAN DROP OFF MULTIPLE BALLOTS IF THERE ARE PEOPLE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD IF YOU'RE A CAREGIVER.

HOW WOULD YOU DISCERN THAT FROM STANDING OUTSIDE OF A 75-FOOT LIMIT THAT THESE ARE NOT ALL PEOPLE FROM THE SAME HOUSEHOLD.

I HAVE NO CREDIT.

IDEA.

>> IF YOU'RE A MULE, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY, GO TO YOUR LOCAL MAILBOX.

>> OH, THOSE BLUE DROP BOXES?

LAP LAP.

[ Laughter ] >> WHEN THEY FIND THIS WHOLE MULE THING IS A RIDICULOUS ILLUSION, THEY'LL ANNOUNCE, YEAH, WE WATCHED THIS AND THERE AS NOT A PROBLEM AND THE SYSTEM IS WORKING.

AFTER THAT HAPPENING -- >> Ted: GOODNESS GRACIOUS.

LET'S MOVE ON FROM THAT FANTASY LAND AND REALITY IN COCHISE.

MARY JO, WALK US THROUGH THE HAND COUNT THAT WAS, THAT WASN'T AND NOW IS AGAIN?

>> WELL, YEAH, THIS IS SOMEWHAT BREAKING NEWS THAT JUST I JUST CAME AWAY FROM ABOUT CONDUCTING A HAND COUNT.

AND IT IS CLEAR THAT THEIR INTENT TO HAVE THE COUNTY RECORDER CONDUCT A HAND COUNT OF EVERY BALLOT, EVERY BALLOT, NO MATTER WHICH WAY IT'S CAST AND LIMITED TO FOUR RACES, WHICH HAVE TO BE CHOSEN RANDOMLY AND THEY GO THROUGH THIS WITH ELECTION BOARDS MADE UP OF VOLUNTEERS AND NO MORE THAN 75% OF THOSE WORKERS CAN BE FROM THE SAME PARTY.

AND THIS IS GOING TO CALL INTO QUESTION A LOT OF THINGS BECAUSE THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE HAS BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH COCHISE COUNTY SAYING CAN'T DO THE FULL HAND COUNT.

AND THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS HAND COUNT ON ALL EARLY BALLOTS.

EARLY BALLOTS TEND TO BE THE BULK OF THE BALLOTS CAST.

WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR SOMETHING FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OF OFFICE TODAY.

EARLIER TODAY, IT LOOKED LIKE THEY MADE PEACE AND EVERYBODY WAS COOL WITH THIS PLAN TO FOCUS ON THE BALLOTS CAST.

TODAY, NO, THEY'LL COUNT EVERY EARLY BALLOT.

>> Ted: THE COUNT ATTORNEY DOWN THERE, BASICALLY SAYING YOU CAN'T DO THIS.

>> RIGHT, HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING THAT, YOU KNOW, HIS VIEW AND THE ATTORNEY COUNTY IN COCHISE COUNTY IS IS A REPUBLICAN SAYING THE STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW IT AND A STATE FRAMEWORK AND WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS OUTSIDE OF THAT.

AND TO THE POINT WHERE HE SAID, LOOK, MY OFFICE WILL NOT DEFEND YOU AND WE WILL NOT DEFEND THE RECORDER OFFICE WHEN YOU'RE SUED OVER WHAT YOU'RE POPING TO PROPOSING TO DO.

THE SECRETARY OF STATE INTENDS TO FILE A LAWSUIT IF THEY PROCEED WITH THIS.

>> Ted: SECRETARY OF STATE, I THINK, THEY GAVE THEM A CERTAIN DEADLINE AND THEN THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT, AS YOU MENTIONED AND IT WAS REAPED REACHED UNTIL TODAY AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE AGREEMENT?

>> THEY ARGUE THEY'RE WORKING WITHIN IT.

TODAY WAS A WORK SESSION TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE, HOW TO DO THE HAND COUNT.

THEY'VE TRANSFERRED THAT TO THE COUNTY RECORDER WHO IN A NORMAL WORLD DOES NOT DO HAND COUNT.

THE LIMITED HAND COUNT IS HANDLED BY THE ELECTION'S DIRECTOR, BUT NOT A FAN OF THIS HAND COUNT.

THEY MOVED IT TO THE RECORDER WHO HAS COME UP WITH THIS PLAN AND THE ONE THING THAT COULD THROW A MONKEY WRENCH IN THIS IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN 75% OF THE BALLOT COUNTERS FROM ONE PARTY, IF THE DEMOCRATS DON'T PLAY, IF THEY DON'T PARTICIPATE, THAT ENDS IT ALL.

AND THE COUNTY'S BOARD CHAIRMAN, THE ONLY DEMOCRAT ON THE BOARD SAID AS MUCH TODAY THAT SHE WOULD ASK AND IMPLORE THE DEMOCRATS TO NOT PARTICIPATE.

>> AGAIN, I JUST DON'T SEE THE PURPOSE OF THIS.

WE HAD IN MARICOPA COUNTY IS COMPLETE HAND COUNT THAT TOOK FIVE MONTHS CONFIRMING THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION AND DID THAT RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN OUR ELECTION AMONG THE REPUBLICANS WHO BELIEVE IT AS STOLEN?

NO, IT DID NOT.

THEY JUST BE WHISK OVER THERE.

WHAT YOU'LL HAVE HAPPEN.

IF THEY DON'T LIKE RESULTS, THEY'LL HAND COUNT IT AND DECLARE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, EITHER VOID IF THE COUNT WAS FOR THE CANDIDATE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO WIN OR THEY'LL COME UP WITH TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND ONE A MACHINE COUNT AND HAND COUNT.

>> Ted: WILLHOW LONG WILL THIS TAKE?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THEY HAVE A DEADLINE AND STATUTE SAYS 20 DAYS TO CANVAS THE ELECTION, CERTIFY AND PASS THE NUMBERS TO THE STATE FOR THE STATE-WIDE CANVAS.

SO I MEAN, THE CLOCK IS TICKING AFTER ELECTION DAY.

>> RECORD SAID HE HAS ARECORDER SAID HE HAS A PLAN AND CAN COUNT THE MONDAY AFTER THE ELECTION AND HAVE IT DONE BY THAT FRIDAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE 18th, SO COCHISI CAN GET IT TO THE STATE.

>> WHAT IF THE NUMBERS DON'T MATCH?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

>> WHO ADJUDICATES THOSE BALLOTS.

>> YOU'RE COUNTING FOUR DIFFERENT RACES AND IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT AT AT A BALLOT, SOME CAN BE DIFFERENT AND WHAT IS IT THEY INTENDED AND HOW MUCH TRAINING WILL THEY HAVE IN HOW TO COUNT THEM?

>> AS I UNDERSTAND, ON THE ELECTION SIDE, THEY GIVE THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE LIMITED HAND COUNT ONE HOUR OF TRAIN TRAINING AND THEY WILL DO THAT UNDER RECORDER STEVENS.

>> Ted: SOLVED.

>> JUNIOR CYBERNINJAS.

>> AND MIGHT I ADD, A VERY REPUBLICAN COUNTY THAT HAS VOTED OVERWHELMING FOR TRUMP IN 2020 AND NO QUESTION.

THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE SOUNDNESS OF COCHISE COUNTY AND THIS IS BEING PUSHED, WHO IT'S WORTH MENTIONING IS A FAKE LECTOR.

HE WAS ONE OF KELLY WARD'S FAKE ELECTORS AND PROMOTING THIS QUITE HEAVILY AND THEY HAVE 140 REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEERS LINED UP TO SHOW UP FOR DUTY AND COUNT BALLOTS.

>> Ted: SPEAKING OF KELLY WARD, SHE GOT A DAY FROM THE U.S. SUPREME COURT REGARDING HER PHONE RECORDS.

TALK TO US ABOUT THIS.

>> SHE'S A FAKE LECTOR ELECTOR AND THE HOUSE, JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF HER PHONE RECORDS AND HER HUSBAND'S, FLYING TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF THEIR PHONE RECORDS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KNOW WHO SHE WAS TALKING TO DURING THIS TIME.

THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE CONTENT OF THE CONVERSATION AND SIMPLY WANT A LIST OF WHO SHE WAS TALKING TO.

WAS SHE TALKING TO DONALD TRUMP, THE INNER CIRCLE AND WAS THIS AN ORGANIZED EFFORT AND HOW -- WELL, IT WAS AN ORGANIZED EFFORT.

HOW HIGH UP WAS THIS EFFORT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION BY PUTTING IN THESE FAKE ELECTORS.

SHE HAS FOUGHT IT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND SHE'S APPEALED AND THIS WEEK, JUSTIN KAGEN, GIVE HER A RESTRAINING ORDER.

SHE CONTENDS THIS IS A VIOLATION OF HER FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND WILL CHILL HER SPEECH.

THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CONTENT OF THAT SPEECH WAS ISN'T.

>> Ted: THE COMMITTEE SAID SHE AIDED IN A COO ATTEMPT.

>> THE MOST POINTED LANGUAGE UP TO THIS POINT IN THIS LEGAL BATTLE AND I THINK THAT WAS A STARK DESCRIPTION AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RAN DOWN THE LIST OF EVERYTHING OF WHY THEY THINK KELLY WARD IS SO IMPORTANT AND WHY MICHAEL WARD IS SO IMPORTANT.

>> Ted: DO WE KNOW WHAT TIMETABLE?

>> I DON'T THINK UNTIL THEY CONSIDER HER APPEAL, WHICH IS QUITE AWHILE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO IS PAYING?

I WOULD ASSUME THE ARIZONA REPUBLICAN PARTY AND I WOULD ASSUME THE DONORS AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SIX FIGURES AND MAYBE THEY'LL USE THE AUDIT MONEY.

>> Ted: ISN'T THERE A REPORT SOMEWHERE THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS WONDERING WHERE THE MONEY IS?

>> THERE WAS A REPORT FROM POLITICO THAT THE TRUMP PEOPLE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD A CONVERSATION WITH KELLY WARD ACCORDING TO REPORTER AND THE CAMP LEAKED THIS AND WERE UPSET THAT THE ARIZONA PARTY WOULD BE SITTING UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS AT THE END OF THINGS.

I KNOW KELLY WARD SPOKE TO ONE REPORTER AND DENIED THAT WAS THE CONTENT OF THE CONVERSATION.

IT CERTAINLY MADE FOR A LOT OF CHATTER.

>> SHE NEEDS IT FOR HER LEGAL BATTLE, APPARENTLY.

>> Ted: CASE SOLVED AGAIN.

SPEAKING OF TRUMP, HE CALLED BLAKE MASTERS AND SAID -- THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION, ANY EVIDENCE THAT THE VOTE COUNT WAS WRONG.

THAT ANSWER DIDN'T SUIT DONALD TRUMP AND NEED TO GO HARDER ON ELECTION DENIAL.

>> I GUESS HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THAT TUTORING BEFORE Mr. MASTER CAME IN BEFORE AND HE SUGGESTED THAT HE TAKE A PAGE FROM KARI LAKE AND ANY QUESTION YOU GET, TALK ABOUT THE ELECTION BEING RIGGED RIGGED AND THE FACT HE WAS ROBBED OF THE ELECTION.

>> Ted: I DON'T CARE IF HE ASKED WHAT TIME OR TEMPERATURE BUT SAY THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.

>> THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

WHAT WE DO KNOW HAPPENED THAT RIGHT AFTER THE DEBATE WHERE HE SAID HE DIDN'T -- HADN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE TO SHOW IT WAS RIGGED, HE WENT ON FOX TV, AND THE ANCHOR SAID DON'T YOU KNOW IT WAS RIGGED AND HE SAID I DON'T DISAGREE.

AND THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE TRUMP PHONE CALL, THREE DAYS AFTER THE TRUMP PHONE CALL.

THE TIMELINE WAS YOU HAVE THE DEBATE WHERE IT WASN'T RIGGED AND THE TRUMP PHONE CALL WHERE HE SAYS, YOU HAVE TO GO STRONG ON IT BEING RIGGED AND THE FOX PHONE CALL WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS RIGGED AGAIN.

IT MAKES YOU WONDER WHERE HE'S GETTING HIS MARCHING ORDERS.

>> Ted: THAT CASE SOLVED AS WELL.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU ALL AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

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