THIS YEAR THREE OF THE FOUR AT LARGE SEATS FOR THE OFFICE OF HAWAIIANA AFFAIRS BOARD OF TRUSTEES UP FOR ELECTION.

TOP SIX VOTE GETTERS COMPETE FOR THE THREE SEATS NOVEMBER ELECTION.

COMPETITIVE RACE.

CAN INCUMBENTS ARE SET TO FACE OFF AGAINST NEWCOMERS.

JOIN OUR CONVERSATION OHA LARGE SEATS NEXT ON INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

¶¶ ¶¶ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII, I’M DARYL HUFF.

THE OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS WAS FOUNDED IN 1978 AND IS A SEMI‑AUTONOMOUS STATE AGENCY WITH THE MANDATE TO BETTER THE CONDITIONS OF NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

THE OHA BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS COMPOSED OF NINE MEMBERS—FIVE OF THE NINE SEATS REPRESENT THE FOLLOWING DISTRICTS: HAWAII ISLAND, MAUI, MOLOKAI AND LANAI, KAUAI AND NIIHAU, AND OAHU.

PEOPLE ELECTED TO THOSE SEATS MUST LIVE IN THE DISTRICT.

THE OTHER FOUR OHA TRUSTEES ARE DESIGNATED AS “AT‑LARGE” AND REPRESENT THE ENTIRE STATE.

ALL VOTERS STATEWIDE CAN VOTE IN EACH RACE.

THIS YEAR THREE OF THE FOUR OHA AT‑LARGE SEATS ARE UP FOR ELECTION.

THE TOP SIX VOTE‑GETTERS IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION ARE SET TO FACE OFF IN THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION.

TONIGHT WE WILL TALK TO A FEW OF THE CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL US OR CALL US WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

WE ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE CONVERSATION ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

BRICKWOOD GALUTERIA IS A RETIRED HAWAII STATE SENATOR SERVING DISTRICT 12 ON OAHU FROM 2008 TO 2018.

HE HAS WORKED AS A MUSICIAN, ACTOR, AND RADIO PERSONALITY AND CURRENTLY HOSTS A MORNING SHOW, “PEOPLE SEEKING WISDOM” ON AM 940.

IN 1985 HE WON THE NA HOKU HANOHANO AWARDS FOR CHAD OWENS WAS A WIDE RECEIVER AT ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL AND THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII AT MANOA AND PLAYED PROFESSIONALLY IN THE NFL AND CFL.

HE HOSTS THE STAR ADVERTISER’S “C O 2 RUN DOWN” TALK SHOW WHICH COVERS HAWAII’S TOP SPORTS HEADLINES.

SAM KALANIKUPUA KING IS AN ATTORNEY AND NON‑PROFIT LEADER.

HE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN KANEOHE.

HE GRADUATED FROM GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY AND EARNED HIS LAW DEGREE FROM UH MANOA.

HE HAS CLERKED AT THE HAWAII STATE SUPREME COURT AND IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF IMUA TMT AN ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO THE PONO CONSTRUCTION OF TMT ON MAUNA KEA.

MR. KING IS ON HIS WAY.

SHOULD BE JOINING SHORTLY.

CANDIDATES LEI AHU ISA, JOHN WAIHEE III, AND KEONI SOUZA EITHER DECLINED OUR INVITATION TO APPEAR TONIGHT OR DID NOT RESPOND.

START.

QUESTION BOTH OF YOU FOCUS.

START WITH YOU.

WHAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE SEE FACING NATIVE HAWAIIANS AND WHAT IS THE ROLE OF OHA IN DEALING WITH THAT ISSUE?

>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR INVITING US HERE TO PBS.

PROGRAMMING IS TOP SHELF.

IN THE TOP SEAT.

MIZUTANI.

WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT THE PRIORITY IS, WHAT THE TOP WHY WE'RE EVEN RUNNING.

FOR THE OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS.

MY PARTICULAR VIEWPOINT IS THERE IS NO, ALL OF THE PRIORITIES THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE TABLE.

DON'T DISAGREE WITH.

ALL HAVE EQUAL STATUS.

I'M ABOUT POLITICAL EFFECTIVENESS.

I KNOW THAT IS HOW YOU MOVE POLICY FORWARD.

SO IN THE CASE OF THE NATIVE HAWAIIANS, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK IN A COHESIVE FASHION.

ONE VOICE.

BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OPINIONS OUT THERE.

BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT LACK OF DISCONTINUE OUT THERE IN TERMS OF THE VOTE.

SO WHAT I WOULD WANT TO BRING IS SENSE OF DISCIPLINE OF CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE IT, DEALING WITH POLICY ISSUES, GO IN THE BACK ROOM AND JUST BEEF IT OUT.

COME OUT SINGING HAWAI'I LOA TOGETHER.

>>Daryl: GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.

HOW ABOUT YOU?

WHAT DO YOU SEE AS A PRIMARY ISSUE AND HOW DO YOU SEE OHA'S ROLL.

>> SO MANY ISSUES THAT NEED RESOLVE.

BUT I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT OHA, I THINK THAT MACHINE, EFFICIENCY, GAME PLAN, IF YOU WILL, I THINK WE NEED TO SORT OF GET IN THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

PRIORITIZE WHAT NEEDS TO GET TON FIRST.

THAT'S WHY NOTHING IS OVER THE OTHER THING RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK.

REALLY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF GETTING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

TALKING WITH OUR NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

FINDING OUT, HEARING IT FROM THEIR MOUTH AND LETTING THEM VOICE WHAT THEY NEED DONE AND TAKING THAT INTO OFFICE, TALKING AND FIND RESOLVE FOR WHAT THEY WANT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE.

WE ARE A SERVICE TO OUR AHUI, TO OUR PEOPLE.

>>Daryl: DO YOU FEEL RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF THAT?

>> NO.

I MEAN, I'VE COME ACROSS SO MANY PEOPLE WHO STILL QUESTION WHAT DOES OHA DO?

I FEEL THERE'S A GAP BETWEEN OHA AND OUR PEOPLE, AND LIKE BRICKWOOD SAID, COMMUNICATION.

EVERYONE IS, WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER.

>>Daryl: AS A FORMER LEGISLATOR, ALSO ENTERTAINER, PROBABLY VERY GOOD AT BRANDING AND MESSAGING.

WHAT YOU FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE MESSAGE THAT WOULD RESONATE IN THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY ABOUT OHA THAT'S NOT GETTING THROUGH?

>> WITH THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY OR ALL OF HAWAII?

BOTH.

WHATEVER.

>> EVERYBODY VOTES FOR OHA.

EVERYBODY HAS VESTED INTEREST IN WHAT HAPPENS WITH OHA.

SO MY MESSAGE WOULD BE WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN IS GOOD FOR ALL OF HAWAII.

SO PAY ATTENTION.

THAT'S THE VALUE OF OHA.

>> I AGREE.

ADD TO THAT, I THINK THE ALSO WE AS A PEOPLE, AS A HAWAIIAN PEOPLE, NEED TO ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT, RIGHT?

WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT HAWAIIAN HERE BUT BORN AND RAISED HERE.

LIVE HERE WHOLE LIVES.

PEOPLE COME IN.

MOVE HERE, END UP LOVING THIS PLACE.

IF YOU LIVE HERE AND LOVE THIS PLACE AND YOU'RE HAWAIIAN, YOU SHOULD LOVE ON THAT PERSON THAT LOVES OUR PLACE.

THAT LOVES OUR CULTURE.

SO WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MESH.

MAKE IT WORK AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE NEED.

TO FIND THAT RESOLVE OF TRUE COMMUNITY AND FIND A WAY TO THRIVE TOGETHER.

>>Daryl: INTERESTING, OUR INTRODUCTIONS WE DID SPEND A LOT OF TIME DESCRIBING HOW POLITICALLY THE OFFICE IS SET UP.

COMPLEXITY OF IT IS THAT WE SAY EVERYONE SHOULD BE INVOLVED AND VESTED IN OHA.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION, TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF BLANK VOTES.

THAT MIGHT BE SORT OF VESTIGE ORIGINAL PROBLEM CONSTITUTION SAID ONLY HAWAIIANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR OHA.

GOT THROWN OUT BY THE COURTS.

SO THERE'S SOME CONFUSION.

I WOULD ASK YOU, SOUNDS LIKE I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, IS IT WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE NONHAWAIIANS TO VOTE FOR OHA?

ARE YOU A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED IF THEY DO, ACTUALLY WORK AGAINST THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY?

>> I THINK IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHO THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE.

AND HAVE EDUCATED VOTES.

NOW, I'M NOT NECESSARILY A FAN OF NONHAWAIIANS VOTING FOR OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

RICE V CAYETANO.

LAW OF THE LAND.

HAVING SAID THAT, IMPORTANT FOR THE NONHAWAIIANS.

HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE, TO LEARN.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

TO SHARE THAT, HEY, NOBODY IS PERFECT.

BUT AT LEAST, WE'RE PUTTING OURSELVES OUT THERE FOR YOU TO CHOOSE BEST THING THAT YOU GOT IS YOUR VOTE.

USE IT AND LEARN ABOUT EACH ONE OF US.

AND MAKE A CONSCIOUS DECISION.

>>Daryl: I HAVE A FEELING, AGREE WITH THAT.

>> ONE THING OUR NATIVE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE, VERY PASSIONATE OUR CULTURE.

SO WHEN THIS COMES UP, SENSE OF WHY IS NONHAWAIIANS HAVING A SAY IN THIS?

PERSPECTIVE.

UNDERSTAND THAT.

IF YOU'RE A NATIVE HAWAIIAN, WANT TO GET INVOLVED, GET INTO NATIVE CULTURE.

COMMUNITY, LEARN, HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

THEY'RE GOING TO RESPECT YOU FOR THAT.

WHEN YOU COME IN EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE CANDIDATES, YOU CAN MAKE BEST DECISION BECAUSE YOU'VE TALKED TO THE NATIVE HAWAIIAN CULTURE, THE COMMUNITY, ON THE SAME PAGE, AND THAT IS GOING TO HELP ELEVATE EVERYONE.

IF YOU'RE A NON‑HAWAIIAN, DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO GET INVOLVED AND EDUCATE YOURSELF, THAT'S FINE TOO.

THAT'S IT.

EVERYONE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO OTHER, BUT ‑‑ >>Daryl: THROW THIS OUT.

I'VE GOT ALL OF THESE NUMBERS WRITTEN DOWN.

I LOVE NUMBERS.

THROW IT OUT.

BLANK VOTES WERE 465,000.

PROBABLY FIVE TIMES MORE THAN ANYONE CANDIDATE GOT.

KIND OF FUNCTION OF EVERYBODY GETS I THINK IT WAS SIX VOTES IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION.

DO YOU FEEL THAT LIKE THE WAYS SET UP AND OPERATING NOW POLITICALLY, WORKS?

YOU HAVE BASICALLY CAMPAIGN STATEWIDE, GOT TO VERY WELL‑KNOWN.

HELPS YOU.

VERY WELL‑KNOWN.

WELCOME SAM KING.

MADE IT BACK HERE.

WASN'T TOO BAD FROM WAIMANALO.

MAHALO.

>> THANK YOU.

>>Daryl: DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO CHOOSE TRUSTEES?

RIGHT OR WRONG, DO YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY, OR DIFFERENT WAY OF CHOOSING.

>> THE IT'S WAY IT IS.

GOOD WAY OR BAD WAY, IT IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A SYSTEMS CHANGE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.

TALK THROUGH THE NATIVE HAWAIIANS, HEY, ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY?

ASK THEM.

ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY WITH THE WAY THAT THIS IS SET UP?

IS IT FAIR?

IS IT GET CONFUSING?

IS THERE TOO MANY SEATS AVAILABLE, TOO MANY PEOPLE?

THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO SORT OF CREATE THAT EFFICIENT MACHINE.

SO THAT EVEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH MISSING VOTES.

>>Daryl: I WOULD ADD TO THAT,.

>> A LOT OF IT HAS DO WITH RESPECT, BLANK VOTES HAVE FOR THE NATIVE HAWAIIANS COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT HAWAIIAN.

SO WHY AM I VOTING?

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

WHAT'S GOOD FOR HAWAIIANS IS GOOD FOR ALL OF HAWAII.

THEREFORE.

>>Daryl: SAM KING, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS CONVERSATION YOU HEARD BEFORE THIS, WE WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHETHER YOU WOULD ENCOURAGE NON‑HAWAIIAN HAWAIIANS TO VOTE IN OHA TALKED EVERYONE RUNNING STATEWIDE.

SO IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT TO CAMPAIGN.

DIFFICULT TO PUT YOUR NAME OUT THERE.

WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THE PROCESS OF ELECTING OHA TRUSTEES?

THINK IT SHOULD BE CHANGED.

>> MAHALO.

HONOR AND PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU GENTLEMEN.

THREE THAT SHOW UP ALL THE PANEL DISCUSSIONS.

ALL FRIENDS NOW.

I TELL ME ABOUT IT.

STATEWIDE, WALKING DOOR‑TO‑DOOR.

KAUAI, BIG ISLAND, HERE, MAUI, ALL OVER.

AND YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK TO MEET PEOPLE AND GREET PEOPLE.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TOWARD FOR PEOPLE VYING FOR OHA GOING IN THE COMMUNITY KNOCK ON DOORS TO TALK TO THEM.

THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.

OHA HAS CHALLENGE.

STRUCTURAL CHALLENGE.

WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF VOTING STRUCTURE, BASED ON IDENTITY OF THE BASED ON RACE.

BASED POLITICS.

THAT'S WHAT THE RICE V CAYETANO CASE WAS ABOUT.

THAT WAS THE ISSUE.

THING THAT SUPREME COURT WAS UPSET ABOUT.

WAS THAT A DISCRIMINATORY ELEMENT.

PEOPLE SAYS, POSITIVE NEGATIVE.

WHATEVER IT IS, THAT'S THE REALITY.

WHAT CHAD IS SAYING.

THAT'S HOW IT IS.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A VOTING SYSTEM.

WE TRIED IT BEFORE.

WHERE ONLY ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE COULD VOTE.

NOW, THAT'S CHANGED.

I GO DOOR‑TO‑DOOR.

TELL EVERYONE EXACT SAME THING.

VOTE IN OHA.

WHAT IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.

GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, GOOD FOR HAWAIIANS.

YOU HAVE AN INTEREST IN OHA FUNCTIONS PROPERLY.

SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY, MILLIONS DOLLARS.

WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ENOUGH TO DO WHAT IS MEANT TO DO.

NOT RELEVANT.

SPENDS MONEY ALLOCATED.

YOU SHOULD VOTE IN OHA AND GET INFORMED A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

THREE VOTES IN THE PRIMARY.

THREE VOTES IN THE GENERAL.

VOTE UP TO 3 PEOPLE.

I THINK IS INTERESTING, DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR ALL THREE PEOPLE.

VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATES YOU KNOW.

CAN YOU VOTE FOR THE ONES THAT SHOW UP TO PANEL DISCUSSION.

THESE GUYS.

VOTE FOR WHO YOU KNOW.

THAT IS A WAY TO CONTRIBUTE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR THREE JUST BECAUSE YOU RECOGNIZE SOMEBODY'S NAME.

>>Daryl: I'M GOING TO RESPECT OUR VIEWERS QUESTIONS IN.

LOKELANI FROM MILILANI, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PREVENT DISHONESTY HANDED IN THE PAST OCCURRING AGAIN.

OHA HAS A HISTORY.

LOOKING BACK, SOME OF THE, I THINK MAIN ISSUES INSIDE DEALING, SOME CONSULTANTS HIRED FRIENDS OF OTHERS.

SO ON.

HOW DO YOU PRESENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING AGAIN.

ARE YOU AT ALL WORRIED?

PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING AGAIN.

>> YOU HAVE TO ENSURE PEOPLE BEING ACCUSED OF IS TRUE.

AND SEVERAL WAYS.

SEVERAL GUARDRAILS IF YOU WILL.

AUDITS.

AS AN EXAMPLE.

THERE'S SOME AUDITS I THINK WE CAN DEPEND ON.

SO THAT WE CAN REALIGN.

IF YOU WILL.

AND IMPROVES OVERALL EFFICIENCY.

CERTAINLY PROVIDES TRANSPARENCY WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS.

I MIGHT ADD THAT CORRUPTION BY PUBLIC OFFICIALS IS DEFINITELY NEVER TO BE TOLERATED.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRUST OF THE VIEWER.

SHE'S ASKING, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THAT?

THERE'S SOME INEFFICIENCIES IN A WAY.

I WOULD SAY, AUDITS BEING ONE OF THEM.

LEARNING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT PROCESSES, OHA PROCESS FOR STARTERS.

>>Daryl: CHAD?

>> VOTERS, POWERS IN THEIR HANDS.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GO AND EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE CANDIDATES.

LOOK AT HISTORY.

LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE WHERE THEY'VE COME FROM.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU COULD BE THE AMAZING PERSON AND YOU GET IN TO POLITICS, AND SOMETIMES THINGS CHANGE.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO JUST SAY, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SOMEONE THAT HELD THEMSELVES TO A HIGH STANDARD.

OF EXCELLENCE.

INTEGRITY.

HARD WORK.

AND I'LL NEVER BE BOUGHT.

I'LL NEVER BE CHANGED.

I'M GOING TO BRING WHAT I BRING.

THAT'S MY ENERGY AND SO I THINK THAT IS HOW WE CAN HELP CREATE THAT CHANGE IS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PLAYERS ON THE TEAM THAT CAN CREATE THAT ATMOSPHERE OF TRUST, AND INTEGRITY, AND EFFICIENCY.

>>Daryl: I'M IMPRESSED YOU TOOK THIS LONG TO GET TO A FOOTBALL ANALOGY.

>>Daryl: SAM, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE PAST ISSUES AND WAYS KEY TO PREVENTING THAT FROM HAPPENING.

>> LEGAL ANALOGIES IN HERE.

LAWYER BACKGROUND.

>>Daryl: THOSE AREN'T FUNNY.

>> I KNOW.

LET PEOPLE KNOW I'M A LAWYER.

I DON'T WANT LAWYERS ON THE BOARD.

I THINK THAT SPEAKING OF THE ATTORNEY RUNNING FOR THE BOARD, FIDUCIARY.

THAT'S MY GRANDPA'S FAVORITE SAYING.

REALLY WHAT COMES BACK DOWN TO.

RECOGNIZING THE KULEANA WE HAVE AS TRUSTEES AND TAKING THAT SERIOUSLY.

BUT ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY.

ABRUPT MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT TERM LIMITS.

INTERESTING THING.

CRITICISM ABOUT TERM LIMITS FOR LEGISLATIVE BODIES.

I GET THAT.

BUT OHA HAS THAT VOTING ISSUE WHERE PEOPLE LOW INFORMATION ABOUT IT.

MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT IS HEALTHY FOR THAT KIND OF TURNOVER.

OTHER THING WOULD SAY VOTE FOR NEW PEOPLE TO COME IN AND TAKE A NEW LOOK.

ALL RESPECT TO JOHN WAIHEE, LEI HAU, TIME FOR CHANGE.

AND THAT ABILITY TO COME IN AND SAY, NEW LOOK, NEW FRESH VIEWING OF THE SITUATION.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND HAVE WHOLE NEW PERSPECTIVE.

YOU WEREN'T IN FOR THE INFIGHTING WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE PAST.

I THINK CHAD HIT IT ON THE HEAD.

ABOUT THE VOTERS TAKING POWER.

THAT'S WHAT I TELL EVERYBODY.

VOTE SAM KING.

>>Daryl: ANOTHER QUESTION.

CHRIS FROM KAKAAKO.

NON‑HAWAIIAN.

I'M TRYING TO EDUCATE MYSELF AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT I WANT TO VOTE IN THIS RACE.

WHAT ARE THREE THINGS I SHOULD KNOW BUT THAT DISTINGUISHES YOU FROM YOUR OPPONENT TO GET MY VOTE.

VOTE FOR ALL THREE.

YOU GUYS ARE ENDORSING.

IN TERMS OF JUST PHRASES THIS LIVE DIFFERENTLY.

THROW THIS BRICKWOOD FIRST.

WHAT ARE THE THREE DIFFERENCES ABOUT YOU FROM THE CURRENT TRUSTEES THAT THEY SHOULD CHOOSE YOU OVER SAY INCUMBENTS?

>> I THINK MIX OF EXPERIENCE, POLITICAL SKILLS, FACT THAT I UNDERSTAND GOVERNANCE, I DON'T ‑‑ I THINK LEI IS THE ONLY FORMER LEGISLATOR OF THE ENTIRE BOARD.

BUT I BRING SUBTLETIES OF GOVERNANCE TO THE BOARD.

RELATIONSHIPS IS WHAT IS ALL ABOUT IN POLITICS.

GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE CURRENT LEGISLATURE.

HAVE A BRAND NEW GOVERNOR COMING UP SOON.

I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH EITHER ONE.

WHOMEVER SURVIVES THAT RACE.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT I CAN BRING A SPECIAL SENSE OF POLITICS.

>>Daryl: DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ANSWER ALREADY QUESTION BY SAYING YOU KNOW HOW TO SPELL FIDUCIARY.

>> >> HELPS.

LEGAL BACKGROUND VALUE ADDS I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S AN ATTORNEY ON THE BOARD.

THAT WOULD HELP.

REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND, UNDERSTAND A LOT OF LAND ISSUES OHA IS GOING TO GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY.

I ALSO BEEN BOARDMEMBER.

HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, SEEMS SMALL IN THE END, YOU'RE WINNING TRUST OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU LIVE WITH.

TO MANAGE THEIR MONEY.

THAT'S VERY SIMILAR WHAT THE OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS.

>> DOES, BIGGER SCALE.

TALKING ABOUT SPELL FIDUCIARY PERSONAL LIABILITY.

OF THAT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

>>Daryl: CHAD I DO BELIEVE THAT BOARD OF TRUSTEES OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS BOARD OF TRUSTEES NEEDS TO BE MADE UP OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

YOU'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT PLAYERS RIGHT HERE.

TEAM OF ALL THE SAME PLAYERS, NOT GOING TO HAVE.

DIVERSITY.

NOT GOING TO HAVE MUCH CHANGE, RIGHT?

I BRING UNIQUENESS.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYONE IN THIS RACE THAT'S LIKE ME.

I BRING ALL THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

BUT MY TEAMWORK AND EXPERIENCE AS PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE, I'VE HELPED REBUILD TEAMS FROM BOTTOM TO THE TOP.

WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS.

JUST EVERYTHING YOU NEED, ENERGY, ALREADY BUILT A TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY.

THROUGH MY ATHLETIC CAREER.

I KNOW THEY TRUST ME.

THEY SEE MY WORK ETHIC.

KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

AND I HAD THE CONNECTION, BRICKWOOD TALKED ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.

I'VE GOT THE CONNECTIONS.

I CAN BE THAT BRIDGE THAT EXTENSION OF THE PEOPLE'S ARMS.

THEIR VOICE.

BECAUSE THEY ALREADY TRUST ME AND I THINK THAT IS MY SORT OF ADVANTAGE.

>>Daryl: WE EARLIER TALKED ABOUT ISSUES JUST WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT AND EVERYONE SORT OF SAID, THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT.

WE SHOULD KIND OF HONE IN SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

ONE QUESTION I WAS START WITH YOU, SAM, NATIVE HAWAIIANS SCORE VERY POORLY IN MANY MEASURES OF HEALTH.

HAVE NOT SEEN OHA THAT INVOLVED IN NATIVE HAWAIIAN HEALTH ISSUES.

WHAT CAN THE LAW DO TO DEAL WITH THE POOR CONDITION OF NATIVE HAWAIIAN HEALTH?

>> I THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY A HUGE CHALLENGE.

YOU ASKED ME ONE ISSUE.

I'M GOING TO SAY EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

VOTE FOR SAM KING, BECAUSE I WILL GET EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION A PRIORITY AT THE OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS.

THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THE HEALTH ISSUE.

PROBLEM OHA HAS IS EVERYBODY WANTS IT TO BE EVERYTHING TO EVERYONE.

THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

OHA DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY.

NOT THE STATE OF HAWAII.

WHAT CAN FOCUS ON IS HIGHEST IMPACT, HIGHEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT, THEN CAN YOU DO.

EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

OHA HEALTH PLAN LOOK AT THEIR ANNUAL PLAN, KIND OF DISTRACTED.

CAN'T TELL WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHAT THEY'RE FOCUSED ON, HEALTH CARE IS HUGEMENT MASSIVE INDUSTRY.

I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A WAY OF OFFICE HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS CAN USE MONEY MOST EFFECTIVELY.

FOCUS ON EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

FOCUS ON THAT, GET OUTCOMES BACK STABILIZED FAMILIES.

INCREASED TWO FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS KIDS THAT GET EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

PLUS THEIR KIDS.

PREVENT INCARCERATION INCREASES OUTCOMES BACK.

INCREASE INCOME.

SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF WEALTH GOING TO INCREASE LIFE OUTPUTS.

>> TALKING TO ME.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS CAN YOU GO WITH HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

NUMBER ONE, I BELIEVE IT'S FOOD.

I THINK WE CAN HELP IN THAT SELF‑SUSTAINABLE WORLD ORGANIC, EVERYONE FARMING FROM HOME, THINGS CAN YOU DO NOW.

RIGHT THERE FOR US.

TO BE ABLE TO GROW OUR OWN VEGETABLES, FRUIT AND NECESSARY THINGS WE NEED ON A DAILY BASIS TO BE HEALTHY.

JUST HELPS PROMOTE A LIFESTYLE CHANGE.

BECAUSE CREATE HABIT AND THEN FROM THAT HABIT, GO OUT AND START BYING HEALTHEIR FOOD.

>>Daryl: IS A PERSON WHO HAD STAY HEALTHY AS A CAREER FOR A CAREER, DID YOU HAVE A HARD TIME AS A YOUNG PERSON TURNING DOWN A LOT OF CRAP THAT PEOPLE END UP EATING?

>> YES.

I SAY THIS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IT WAS PART OF MY PROFESSION.

SO IT'S EASIER FOR ME.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PANDEMIC, WHAT DID WE ALL LEARN?

WE GOT TO START LIVING HEALTHIER LIVES TO COMBAT THESE THINGS.

WE CAN COMBAT SICKNESS.

AND I THINK THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A HUGE EYE‑OPENER TO EVERYONE AND I DO BELIEVE THAT, SAM SAID, WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH IT ALL AT ONE TIME.

WHAT I DO BELIEVE WE CAN START TO IMPLEMENT THINGS WE START TO PLANT SEEDS IN VARIOUS WAYS.

HEALTH OR WELLNESS, THAT'S MY BABY.

MY PASSION.

I LOVE TO SORT OF TAKE A LEAD THIS THAT SECTION.

>>Daryl: YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE HEALTH ISSUES?

>> HEALTH ISSUES FACE HAWAIIANS SEEM TO BE SYSTEMIC IN A SENSE.

BUT NOBODY WANT TO BE UNHEALTHY.

NOBODY WANTS TO KEEP ON LOOKING FOR HEALTH CARE AROUND.

ALSO VERY COMPLEX.

SEEMS TO BE GENERATIONAL.

THERE'S NO QUICK FIX HERE.

I WOULD SAY THAT'S BEST THING WE COULD POSSIBLY DO IS TO INCREASE OUR COLLABORATIONS WITH OTHER AREAS OF NATIVE HAWAIIAN HEALTH CARE.

PAPAOLOKAHI.

EXISTING KANAKA MAOLI COMMUNITIES THAT WE CAN GO TO.

THERE'S THE COLLABORATION WITH EXISTING QUEEN'S MEDICAL CENTER.

QUEEN'S SYSTEMS RATHER, KAMEHAMEHA SCHOOLS, STRENGTHEN THOSE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS, IF WE CAN DO THAT, WE CAN AT LEAST MOVE TOWARDS SOLVING THIS VERY COMPLEX AND INTERMULTIGENERATIONAL PROBLEM.

>>Daryl: ANOTHER ISSUE.

HOMELESSNESS.

HOUSING.

CHAD, START WITH THIS ONE.

WHAT IS OHA, DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS.

SEEMS TO HAVE A HOMELESS COMPONENT.

BUT WHERE DOES OHA FIT IN THAT?

HOUSING AND HOMELESS IS HUGE.

>> HUGE.

AGAIN, GOES BACK TO WHAT BRICKWOOD SAID.

COLLABORATING.

ALL OF THESE ENTITIES, WE ALL DOING IT FOR THE SAME REASON.

ALL TRYING TO BETTER THE LIVES OF THE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY.

HAWAIIAN PEOPLE.

IF YOU'RE HOMELESS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE TREATED ANY DIFFERENT.

YOU'RE HAWAIIAN.

YOU SHOULD BE SERVICED.

SHOULD FIND A WAY TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES.

I THINK AGAIN, WE NEED TO COLLABORATE MORE SO WE CAN DO MORE.

THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A HUGE, HUGE PRIORITY.

YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY.

WE GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

IF WE COLLECTIVELY CREATE THIS MONSTER, IF YOU WILL, WE CAN DO SOME DAMAGE.

I FEEL.

WITH THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

AND MAYBE IT'S LIKE, OKAY YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO TAKE HOLD OF THESE ISSUES BECAUSE THAT IS, YOU HAVE THE MEANS AND FUNDS.

YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE IN CHARGE OF THAT.

I THINK IT'S TIME TO START DIVIDING AND CONCURRING.

AND TO ME, THAT'S HOW WE CAN REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH.

>>Daryl: HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS PROBLEMS.

>> I AGREE WITH OTHER MORE THAN THIS DEBATE PANEL.

>>Daryl: I'LL WORK ON THAT.

>> OBVIOUS.

COLLABORATION IS THE KEY.

HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS SHOULD FOCUS ON HIGHEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

HOW DO YOU BECOME, YOU SEE OHA AS BEING CATALYST OF THAT COOPERATION?

OR IS SOMEONE ELSE WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO COME UP AND BE THE CATALYST?

>> NO.

I MEAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS WAIT.

I DON'T SEE ANY REASON DO THAT I'M NOT RUNNING TO BE A TRUSTEE SIT AROUND WAITING.

I'M A MAN OF ACTION.

VOTING FOR ME, YOU'RE VOTING FOR ACTION.

VOTING FOR RESULTS.

WHY YOU PUT ME THERE.

WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS BE THE CATALYST FOR THAT CHANGE WALKING DOOR‑TO‑DOOR.

HUSTLES.

MOVING OUT.

MEETING PEOPLE.

GREETING PEOPLE.

ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.

GO OUT THERE AND COLLABERATE.

STARTED NONPROFITS, STRONG STANCE WAY TO COLLABORATE.

IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT'S NOT ABOUT PUSHING AGAINST PEOPLE.

IT'S ABOUT BUILDING THOSE BRIDGES.

BEING THAT BRIDGE AND BEING ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE IN.

THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE COULD DO.

FINDING THOSE CONNECTIONS.

HOUSING DEPARTMENT OF HOMELANDS.

WHERE THEY CAN GO.

>> DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, GET IN UP WITH THE LAND USE FOUNDATION.

WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF IWI KUPUNA IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

GET ARCHAEOLOGISTS DON'T BUILD HERE.

MAPPING OUT SOMETHING THAT SAYS THESE ARE THE AREAS YOU CAN BUILD HOMES.

>> THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED.

>>Daryl: AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, 15 NATIVE HAWAIIANS I GUESS ALL WATCHING TV TOGETHER, KAIMUKI, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO GET HOMES FOR NATIVE HAWAIIANS?

IN ADDITION TO COLLABORATION WITH DHHL?

WHAT DO YOU THINK.

>> THAT AND.

HOUSING IS A MOVING TARGET HERE.

SO YOU GOT EMERGENCY.

TRANSITIONAL.

LONGTERM.

PERMANENT.

GOT AFFORDABLE.

RIGHT NOW, OHA IS ALREADY LEVERAGING PARTNERSHIPS.

BECAUSE THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT, PAYING ATTENTION TO BECAUSE LIVING IN THE KAKAAKO AREA, FOR LITTLE WHILE, YOU GO OUTSIDE AND EVERY 50‑YARDS GET HOMELESS GUY TALKING TO HIMSELF.

>>Daryl: RIGHT NEXT TO A HUGE LUXURY CONDO.

BIG BEAUTIFUL CONDOMINIUM.

REALLY INTERESTING.

DICHOTOMY.

SO I WAS WRITING DOWN JUST SOME OBVIOUS COLLABORATION.

OHA IS A STATE APPARATUS TOO.

WE SHOULD BE THE LEAD MACHINE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.

YOU GOT THE HAWAII PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY.

YOU GOT HAWAII HOUSING FINANCE AND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

WITH THE FUNDING PROCESS.

YOU GOT DHHL OBVIOUSLY.

AND I STILL THINK WE SHOULD PARTNER WITH THE OTHER NATIVE HAWAIIAN KANAKA MAOLI ORGANIZATIONS.

>>Daryl: JUST OCCURRED TO ME.

WHEN YOU MENTIONED KAKAAKO, OHA DOES HAVE SORT OF PROPERTY IN KAKAAKO, KAKAAKO MAKAI PARCELS.

AND STIMIED WITH WHAT THEY'RE GOING DO WITH THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER, FORGIVE ME FOR NOT KNOWING THIS.

I KNOW THERE'S A COOPERATION WITH WAIMEA FALLS.

WHERE OHA HAS LAND, YOU WOULD HAVE A SAY WHETHER HOUSING COULD BE BUILT THERE.

>> RIGHT.

I KNOW THAT KAKAAKO MAKAI, HUGE PROJECT.

UP ON THEIR LIST.

WANT TO GET GOING.

AREAS ON THAT SOIL THAT AREN'T DEEMED FOR RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE POCKETS THAT CAN BE USED AS RESIDENTIAL.

I THINK BIGGEST THING COMBINATION OF COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL, THAT WAY, TURNING OVER MAKING MONEY.

TALKING ABOUT HAWAIIAN CULTURAL CENTER.

PEOPLE COME IN, TOURISTS, LOCAL PEOPLE, EVERYONE, AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CULTURE, WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO, WE NEED THAT.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE THAT A HAWAIIAN CULTURAL CENTER?

I THINK KAKAAKO, MAKAI, COULD BE A POTENTIAL LANDING SPOT OF THAT.

>>Daryl: QUESTION.

>> WE DID THE ‑‑ I WAS CHAIR OF THE HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE IN THE SENATE.

AND THERE WAS A ‑‑ WE OWED OHA MONEY FOR THER SEEDED LANDS.

WHEN THE CAYETANO ADMINISTRATION CAPPED AT 15.1, DID NOT EQUATE BECAUSE SEEDED LANDS TAKEN SO MUCH MORE.

>>Daryl: EXPLAIN TO VIEWERS IN THE CONSTITUTION FIVE AREAS.

ADMISSIONS ACT.

>>Daryl: CONSTITUTION I THINK SAID THAT OHA WAS ENTITLED TO A PORTION BASED ON THAT OF GOVERNMENT REVENUES?

>> FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE CONSTITUTION SAID EXPLICITTY.

BUT GENERAL POINT IS THAT THE ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THAT OHA UNDER THE ADMISSIONS ACT, FIVE ENUMERATED.

ONE IS BETTERING CONDITIONS OF NATIVE HAWAIIAN.

OHA MET UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, LOCATE THAT MONEY.

STATE OF HAWAII DECIDED THAT 20% WAS THE NUMBER BASED ON FIVE ENUMERATED PURPOSES IN THE ADMISSIONS ACT.

PROBLEM EVERYBODY SAYS THIS MONEY IS OWED TO HAWAIIANS.

SUPREME COURT COME OUT AND SAID, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

IT'S WHATEVER THE LEGISLATURE DECIDES.

SO WHETHER OR NOT THE MONEY IS OR IS NOT OWED, IS POLITICAL QUESTION.

THE LEGAL ANSWER IS THE WHATEVER THE LEGISLATURE SAYS.

>>Daryl: LET ME, WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD.

THERE'S A FUNDING COMPONENT THAT COMES BACK IN BASED.

>> ANNUALLY.

BASED ON SEEDED LAND REVENUES.

THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF HAWAII.

SO WE'RE AS A STATE, WOEFULLY DEFICIENT WHAT WAS OWED TO THE OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS.

>> OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS RECEPTACLE, REALLY DEFICIENT ON THAT.

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

CUT A DEAL.

THIS GIVE OHA KAKAAKO 20 PARCELS.

I'LL NEVER FORGET, I WAS WALKING IN ONE DAY TO MY OFFICE.

SENATOR CLAYTON HEE WAS SITTING THERE, LET'S TALK STORY.

COMING IN $40 MILLION SHORT.

THAT'S THE VALUE OF PROPOSITION THERE.

I SAID, IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW, SENATOR, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AT ALL.

GOVERNOR WHO'S WILLING TO SIGN.

DO IT.

LET OHA FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE LAND.

MAY NOT BE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL BECAUSE 40‑STORY TOWERS.

BUT YOU STILL GOT 20 PARCELS IN URBAN HONOLULU.

WHY DON'T YOU TRADE IT OFF WITH SOMETHING.

>>Daryl: NEED TO YOU MAKE, WHAT IS THE MAIN POINT YOU WANT TO MAKE FROM THAT STORY?

>> MAIN POINT IS OHA HAS LANDS.

THAT HAS NOT BEEN UTILIZED TO MAXIMUM POTENTIAL.

>>Daryl: SO CAN I TOUCH ON THAT?

>> READ DAVID LOUIE'S BOOK.

TALKED ABOUT KAKAAKO.

REASON THEY DID THE DEAL WANTED TO PROVIDE HOUSING IN KAKAAKO MAKAI.

THAT'S A VERY HOT POLITICAL ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK KEY IS TO PARTNER WITH KAMEHAMEHA SCHOOLS WHICH IS THE OTHER MAJOR LANDOWNER, ANOTHER ALII TRUST, CITY, STATE, TO BUILD A COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDES HOMES FOR LOCAL PEOPLE AND CULTURAL COMPONENT THROUGH CONDOMINIUM DOCUMENTS.

YOU CAN CREATE A MASTER ASSOCIATION WITH MAINTENANCE FEES, THAT CAN HE PROVIDE THAT CULTURAL COMPONENT AND YOU CAN HAVE PARKING FOR SURFERS ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.

PEOPLE THINGS WERE UPSET ABOUT.

DOABLE.

I CAN DO THAT KIND OF THING.

DO THAT COLLABORATION.

>>Daryl: MOVE ON.

ANONYMOUS HILO.

ASKING FOR TWO POSITION.

TMT AND WATER RIGHTS.

START WITH TMT, I WILL GIVE YOU THE FIRST SHOT AT THAT.

SAM KING.

BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO BE THE MOST VIGOROUS ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

MUST BE SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT TO RUN FOR OHA WITH THAT AS A HEAD WIND.

>> NOT AT ALL.

POLLS MAJORITY OF PEOPLE OF HAWAII SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

MAJORITY OF NATIVE HAWAIIANS, THAT HAS NOT BEEN POLLED EXTENSIVELY.

I TALK TO NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

INTERESTED IN BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUES.

EDUCATION.

THAT'S A WINNER.

TELESCOPE PROJECT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES IF I BELIEVED ALL MISINFORMATION OR ANY OF THE MISINFORMATION ABOUT THAT PROJECT, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT EITHER.

PROBLEM IS NONE OF IT IS TRUE.

PROJECT DOESN'T HARM THE AQUIFERS.

NOT DISGRACING OR DESECRATING MOUNTAIN.

IT PERPETUATES IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE OUR CULTURE, CELESTIAL NAVIGATION, NATURAL OBSERVATION.

BEAUTIFUL THING TO ME.

SOMETHING I WANT TO PRESERVE.

POLYNESIAN VOYAGING SOCIETY.

WHAT THEIR ENERGY BRINGS.

WORKING CAN NATIVE HAWAIIANS KIDS BORN AND RAISED HERE, GETTING INTO THE INDUSTRY ASTRONOMY AND SPACE INDUSTRY.

PEOPLE WHO GOT TO KNOW.

LANANI, PEOPLE YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE, THEY'RE JUST GETTING INTO THE INDUSTRY.

WE BUILT THE WHOLE THING.

FOR 40 YEARS.

>> BEEN FIGHTING THIS FIGHT.

SAYING, THERE'S NO LOCALS.

NO NATIVE HAWAIIANS ESPECIALLY IN THE END INDUSTRY.

WE'RE JUST GETTING THAT NOW.

IF YOU STOP TMT, WHICH IS THE NEXT GENERATION, TAKING DOWN NUMBER OF TELESCOPES TO DO IT.

PUTTING IN TMT.

IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT NEXT GENERATION FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS.

MAKE HAWAII THE CENTER OF THAT ECOSYSTEM.

THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT IT.

>>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I'M GOING TO BE HONEST.

MY OVERALL FULL KNOWLEDGE OF TMT ISN'T LIKE I DON'T KNOW ALL THE NUT AND BOLTS ABOUT IT.

WHAT I DO KNOW.

PEOPLE OF HILO, BIG ISLAND, AND NATIVE HAWAIIANS, COMMUNITY, THEY'RE AGAINST IT.

>> THEY DON'T WANT IT.

FOR ME, SOMEONE RUNNING IN THIS FOR THIS POSITION, I'M SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT LISTENING TO OUR VOICE OF OUR PEOPLE.

WHAT RESOLVE DO YOU NEED.

IF THEY'RE TELLING ME AOLE TMT.

THIS IS WHY THIS IS SACRED.

WHAT WE FEEL, I'M FOR SCIENCE.

>> THINK THERE'S SO MANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN UTILIZE SCIENCE IN HAWAII.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST WHAT OUR PEOPLE ARE WANTING.

SO THAT I'M NOT FOR THE THIRTY METER TELESCOPE.

NOT FOR THAT.

I AM FOR THE PEOPLE AND WHAT THEY WANT.

AND RESPECT WHAT THEY NEED.

>>Daryl: YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> MAUNA KEA IS SACRED.

SACREDNESS IS SUBJECTIVE.

WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE SACRED, YOU MAY NOT FEEL SACRED.

I HOPE WE CAN FIND A RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER'S THOUGHTS.

HAVING SAID THAT, I SUPPORT BOTH CULTURE AND SCIENCE.

I SUPPORTED TMT ON MAUNA KEA FOR WHAT IT PROVIDES HUMANITY.

UNLESS SOMETHING COMPELS ME OTHERWISE, I'LL REMAIN THAT WAY.

BUT MANAGEMENT OF MAUNA KEA IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL.

I DON'T THINK IT'S, THAT PUT IN THIS WAY, LEGISLATURE HAS PUT TOGETHER NEW MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY.

HOPEFULLY, RIGHT PEOPLE WHO RESPECT EACH OTHER, AND THEIR VIEWPOINTS, IT WILL BE GOOD BALANCE AND VALUED BALANCE TOO.

CULTURE AND SCIENCE MUST BE TOGETHER.

I CONSIDER ANY TELESCOPE ON THE MOUNTAIN DOES NOT BEING USED OPALA, GET IT OFF THE MOUNTAIN.

STILL DON'T ENJOY GOOD ROBUST COMMUNITY BENEFITS PACKAGE THAT SHOULD COME FROM ANYTHING BEING DONE ON THE MOUNTAIN.

THAT COULD BE A PART OF THE PROBLEM AS WELL.

I HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.

I HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE.

IT COMES BACK WITH THE FACT THAT CULTURE AND SCIENCE FOR ME, EXAMPLE OF CULTURE AND SCIENCE INTERSECTING TOGETHER IS A FACT THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO OUR OWN CREATION, I MEAN, I'M NOT GOING TO GET TOO DEEP.

I'M NOT A CULTURAL EXPERT PER SE, IN THE FIRST TEN LINES OF THE KUMULIPO BLACK HOLE.

NOW, WE'VE BEEN GIVEN A GIFT OF MAKANA OF THE BEST PLATFORM TO VIEW OUR OWN CREATION.

NOW, WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT?

I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, TO WHAT CHAD SAYS, WES, KIND OF EVEN WITHIN THE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY.

PRETTY EVENLY SPLIT.

A LOT OF TIMES, SOMETHING EVENLY SPLIT, IT TENDS TO GO TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE JUST THE NATURE OF POLITICS.

NEED MAJORITY TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.

YOU HEARD THESE TWO GENTLEMEN.

>> DOES CHANGE YOUR PERSONAL OPINION SERVICE WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY?

>> NO.

NOT AT ALL.

I STAND WITH THAT AND AGAIN, I STAND WITH THE PEOPLE.

FOR THERE COMES BACK A POINT IN TIME WHERE WE ALL CAN AGREE ON SOMETHING, WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THIS IS GOING TO BE A BENEFIT AND LET'S DO THIS.

I'M NOT NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT TMT.

I THINK THAT IS THE WAY IT NEEDS TO BE.

YOU NEED TO BE IN AGREEMENT.

ON THE FLIP SIDE, YEAH, NEVER GOING TO SATISFY EVERYONE.

WHETHER YOU'RE RIGHT, WRONG, THAT'S JUST NATURE OF THE WORLD.

BUT I SIT WITH WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE WANTING AND THEIR VOICE AND I'M GOING TO STICK TO THAT UNTIL THEY TELL ME OTHERWISE.

UNTIL THEY CHANGE.

THEY TELL ME, CHAD, IT'S OKAY THAT WE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THIS.

I GOT TO JUMP IN.

THIS IS VITAL.

IT'S VITAL.

SAYING THE PEOPLE WANT THIS OR THAT, THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE THING TO KNOW.

EVEN IF YOU DO A POLL.

WHY WE HAVE ELECTIONS.

ALL NATIVE HAWAIIANS ARE VOTING OR ONLY NATIVE HAWAIIANS VOTING, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

NOT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE.

I TALK TO PEOPLE.

TMT.ORG.

LIST OF PEOPLE, NATIVE HAWAIIANS SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

KUPUNA ON THE BIG ISLAND SUPPORTS THIS PROJECT.

BECAUSE SHE SEES IT AS HONORING THE SACRED NATURE THAT SHE BELIEVES MAUNA KEA HAS.

THAT IS HER BELIEF STRUCTURE.

THAT IS SOMETHING I CAN GET BEHIND.

THERE ARE NATIVE HAWAIIANS THAT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRASH TELESCOPES ON THE MOUNTAIN.

EVERY TELESCOPE PRODUCING HIGH QUALITY SCIENCE.

TAKING SOME DOWN RIGHT NOW.

EVERY SINGLE ONE IS BEING USED.

TMT FIRST CAME UP, 2019, SPECIFICALLY, POLL SHOWED 70% NATIVE HAWAIIANS SUPPORT IT.

ONLY WHEN ALL OF THIS FALSE INFORMATION CAME OUT ABOUT TMT BEING NUCLEAR POWERED OR DAMAGING AQUIFER, THAT PEOPLE SWITCHED SIDES.

>> HAVEN'T PAID AS MUCH ATTENTION SINCE.

>>Daryl: I THINK THAT WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH THIS, GIVE BOTH OF YOU GUYS ANOTHER CHANCE TO RESPOND, WE'LL MOVE ON.

IT STRIKES ME THAT WHAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING AS BEING FALSE INFORMATION, FLYING AROUND THERE.

HEART OF THING IS SPIRITUAL ISSUE.

WHERE PEOPLE ARE.

>> HAWAIIANS, WE VIEW THE STARS, NAVIGATION, FROM EYEBALLS.

FROM THE AINA.

LOOK UP.

WE NEVER HAD TELESCOPES.

NEVER LOOKED, NEVER, YEAH, THERE'S TECHNOLOGY TODAY TO FURTHER THINGS AND TO LOOK DEEPER AND I GET THAT.

DEPTH OF WHAT CAN BE DONE THERE.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I LOOK AT IT OF THE OLD TIMES.

WHAT IT WAS.

>>Daryl: LAST PART.

DO YOU THINK THIS IS SO DIVISIVE, IT'S A RISKY ISSUE FOR OHA TO TAKE UP?

>> NO.

NOTHING SHOULD BE RISKY FOR OHA TO TAKE UP.

THAT'S WHY OHA IS OHA.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT IS THE REPRESENTING GOVERNMENTAL APPARATUS FOR NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

ANYTHING THAT NATIVE HAWAIIANS TOUCH, SHOULD OHA SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING DO WITH.

>>Daryl: GOOD.

MOVE ON.

WE NEED TO.

>> BEEN A LOT.

>>Daryl: THANKS TO ALL THREE OF YOU.

WATER RIGHTS.

THEFT OF THE WATER FROM THE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE IS FATAL BLOW TO THAT CULTURE.

BRICKWOOD, IS THERE A ROLE FOR OHA IN HELPING WORK OUT THESE HUGE DISPUTES OVER ACCESS TO WATER?

ESPECIALLY SURFACE WATER, PLACES LIKE MAUI, OAHU.

PLACES WHERE THERE IS WATER WAS TAKEN AND DAMAGED TREMENDOUSLY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

DIVERSION OF THE WATER FOR THE USE OF THE PLANTATIONS.

WELL, NO PLANTATIONS THESE DAYS.

I MEAN, VERY FEW IF ANY.

SO IT SHOULD GO BACK TO THE REGULAR PAST THAT IT WAS BEFORE.

I GOT TO TALK MY HATS OFF TO ALL THE FARMERS AND THE ACTIVISTS WHO NOWAIHEA ON MAUI.

BECAUSE THROUGH THEIR HARD WORK, THE WATER HAS NOW GONE PATH THAT'S ALWAYS GONE.

BEFORE THE PLANTATION.

SO YES, OHA NEEDS TO PLAY A ROLE IN WATER RIGHTS.

>>Daryl: SAM?

>> I THINK OHA CAN PLAY A ROLE IN WATER RIGHTS.

THAT'S OHA HAS THAT MORAL CENTER TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THERE'S A PLACE FOR IT.

WATER VERY, VERY COMPLICATE ISSUE.

PROPERTY RIGHTS.

AT SOME LEVEL AND WATER ISN'T JUST FOR TALKING ABOUT THE PAST.

PAST HAS MOVED ON.

NOT EVERYBODY HERE IS GROWING TARO ANY MORE.

UNDER A FUTILE SYSTEM.

NOW LIVING IN HOMES AND HOMES NEED WATER.

THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF WATER RIGHTS GO TO.

THAT'S DISCUSSION.

DO YOU WANT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

YOU WANT HOUSING PEOPLE CAN AFFORD?

THEY NEED WATER.

DO YOU WANT TO MOVE WATER BACK TO THE STREAM.

PLANTATIONS ARE GONE.

MOVE ON.

SOMETHING THAT'S COMMUNITY CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE FEWER LAWSUIT ABOUT IT.

OHA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY SUING PEOPLE COULD BE SPENT ON EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD FOCUS ON.

>>Daryl: YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WATER QUITE A BIT.

>> NO.

I HAVEN'T.

I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUS.

THE MORE WE CAN BE INVOLVED TO RESOLVE, THAT IS OUR JOB.

AS OHA TRUSTEE, AS A TEAM, IT'S OUR JOB TO SERVICE OUR HAWAIIAN CULTURE OUR PEOPLE.

IF IT'S FINDING RESOLVE IN WATER ISSUES, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING HAWAIIAN RELATED THAT YOU CANNOT THROW UP ON BOARD AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT.

AND FIND A WAY TO, AGAIN, TALKED ABOUT PLANTING SEEDS.

WE SHOULD BE PLANTING SEEDS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WHEN IT SPROUTS.

WE WATER IT MORE.

>> GET MORE LOVE.

BUT NO ISSUES THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN.

>>Daryl: SO I THINK THAT ARE SAM BROUGHT THIS UP.

UNCLE RICK IN KAILUA, BRING IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS BUT WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO?

WHY IS IT GOING TO ADMINISTRATION INSTEAD OF THE PEOPLE?

WHY ARE PEOPLE IN STREETS, IN BUSHES, CAN'T THEY BUILD A BUNCH OF DOMES AND GIVE THEM SHELTERS?

PRAISING THEMSELVES FOR A BROKEN WHEEL.

>> DON'T THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT YOU.

>> MAHALO.

>>Daryl: JOHN IN HAWAII KAI, MOBILE HOMES IN HAWAII PROVIDE MORE CHEAP HOUSING.

START WITH YOU.

DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S BETTER WAYS THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT?

>> BROAD.

>> EARLY EDUCATION.

>> YEAH.

WHAT KIND OF THINGS SHOULD THEY BE SPENDING ON?

DO YOU THINK SPENDING MONEY ON THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

THING THAT THE OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS SHOULD SHIFT ITS FOCUS TOWARDS.

DOESN'T MEAN YOU STOP SPENDING MONEY ON EVERYTHING.

GOING TO BETTER CONDITION FOR NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

OHA EXISTED FOR 40 YEARS.

NATIVE HAWAIIANS ACCORDING TO DBEDT ARE STILL SUFFERING ARE HIGHEST RATES OF POVERTY IN THE STATE OF HAWAII.

WHAT IS GOING ON?

HASN'T BEEN A CONCERTED FOCUS ON EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

NEEDS MORE MONEY.

NOT AN ESCUSE TO ME.

FOCUS ON THE THING HIGHEST RETURN ON VALUE.

>>Daryl: LET ME ASK YOU.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

IN A HAWAIIAN CONTEXT, DO YOU SEE IT BEING BECAUSE I THINK ALL THE CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR NOW ARE PROMISING SOME INCREASE IN LEVEL OF EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

IS THERE A SPECIFIC FOCUS THAT THEY SHOULD PUT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION ON HAWAIIAN FAMILIES?

>> NO.

WELL, I MEAN, OHA BENEFICIARIES ARE NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

THAT IS FOCUS.

TO THE EXTENT THAT IF THEY'RE SUPPORTING CHARTER SCHOOL, THAT CHARTER SCHOOL HAS EVERYBODY IN IT.

EXCELLENT.

EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION IS 0 TO 5 YEARS OLD.

HELPING KIDS, PRESCHOOL PROJECT.

VOTE SAM KING.COM.

GO TO THE ISSUES PAGE.

WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF ABOUT IT.

PRESCHOOL PROJECT, HIGH SCOPE CURRICULUM.

YOU SAY, THIS IS THE GRANT WE WANT TO GIVE OUT.

CURRICULUM WE WANT YOU TO TOUCH ON.

OTHER ELEMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD IN FAMILIES CAN APPLY TO.

GO FOR IT.

RELIGIOUS ELEMENT, KEIKI O KA AINA.

ABOUT LANGUAGE, CULTURAL, ADD THAT IN AS LONG AS YOU'RE HITTING CORE CURRICULUM.

FAMILIES CAN CHOOSE.

>>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WHAT THEY SPEND MONEY ON AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO SPEND DIFFERENTLY?

>> WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

>> ADD SOME THOUGHT.

I THINK WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO EXAMINE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS OHA SPENDING MONEY.

FOR STARTERS, ONE AREA THAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT OHA FOUND ITSELF DEFICIENT.

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NUMBER ONE INDUSTRY VISITOR INDUSTRY.

SINK MONEY INTO SOMETHING, WHY NOT SINK IT INTO INDUSTRY YOU CAN DRIVE KANAKA PERSPECTIVE.

DOING WELL UNDER LEADERSHIP OF HTA DESTINATION MANAGEMENT CONCEPT.

MALAMA HAWAII CONCEPT.

THAT IS WHERE I THINK SOME OF THE CORPUS SHOULD GO.

INVEST IN HOTELS.

INVEST IN THE ONE INDUSTRY, INVESTING IN JOBS.

>>Daryl: BUY HOTELS?

>> I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO INVEST, INVEST IN SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC NOW.

I WENT INTO WAIKIKI THE OTHER DAY.

PLACE IS COOKING.

50% FULL.

I THINK WE SHOULD BE DEEPLY INVOLVED IN THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE TOO.

LET'S JUST, I MEAN, FINISH OFF.

WHEN I WAS RUNNING THE TOURISM AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, TOURISM AND HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, MADE A.

>>Daryl: INTERESTING COMBINATION.

>> INTERESTING.

>> TOURISM AND HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PUT THAT TOGETHER.

TALKED TO MIKE, HTA CHIEF AT THE TIME, SAID, LISTEN, ALL OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, YOU HAVE HAWAIIAN CULTURE IN IT WITH 9 OTHER STRAND.

TURN THAT STRAND THIS WAY.

HAWAIIAN CULTURE IS EVERY ASPECT OF THE VISITOR INDUSTRY.

WE DON'T NEED A BIGGER SEAT AT THE TABLE.

WE ARE THE TABLE.

HAWAIIAN CULTURE IS THE TABLE.

>>Daryl: QUESTION WAS ABOUT WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE MONEY GO.

>> NOT IN THERE YET.

REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE MONEY IS GOING.

>>Daryl: WE HAVE AN ISSUE.

>> YEAH.

THAT'S THE ISSUE.

KIND OF WHY WE'RE SITTING THERE HERE.

WHY PEOPLE GOT TO VOTE.

AS FAR AS WHERE, I DO LIKE BRICKWOOD'S IDEAS OF INVESTING INTO REAL INVESTMENTS.

THINK OF INVESTING, YOU'RE MAKE THE RETURN.

SO INVESTING IN THINGS THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO MAKE MONEY, RIGHT, BUT UTILIZING THAT CULTURAL ASPECT PROVIDING JOBS FOR LOCAL PEOPLE.

OUR NATIVE HAWAIIANS, AND EDUCATING TOURISTS INDUSTRY, THAT'S WHY I THINK CULTURE CENTER IS BIG.

CAN THERE BE BUILT IN KAKAAKO, PROVIDES CULTURAL SORT OF ATMOSPHERE?

I BELIEVE SO.

INVESTING IN THINGS THAT MAKE SENSE.

BUT WE WON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOK LIKE UNTIL WE GET IN AND WE LOOK AT THE GAME PLAN AND FIND A WAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

THESE PLAYS ‑‑ FOOTBALL, THESE PLAYS ARE OUT.

WE NEED TO CREATE A NEW PLAYBOOK AND WHETHER WE'VE GOT TO FIND A NEW QUARTERBACK, READ THE COVERAGE BETTER, SEE WHAT THE DEFENSE IS, DO WEEKLY BASIS.

FINDING ISSUES.

WE NEED TO POUR RESOURCES INTO THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO PROVIDE RETURNS.

FOR US, WE CONTINUE TO DO OUR JOB.

SERVICE THE PEOPLE.

>>Daryl: FIVE MINUTES TO GO.

ONE OF THE SADDEST ISSUES SITUATIONS IS THE AMOUNT OF INCARCERATION LEVEL OF INCARCERATION OF NATIVE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY.

DRUG PROBLEMS WHICH ARE GETTING WORSE AGAIN.

WITH THE FENTANYL HITTING.

WHAT DO YOU SEE OHA'S ROLE DEALING WITH A PROBLEM LIKE THAT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

>> AGAIN.

SO EXCITED.

NOW, EVERY TIME EDUCATION IS EVERYWHERE.

COMING OUT OF DARYL'S MOUTH.

ALSO THE ANSWER.

EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION.

>>Daryl: ENOUGH THEN.

YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT?

>> INCARCERATION.

>> CRIME.

INCARCERATION.

LACK OF JOBS.

LACK OF MONEY.

COST OF LIVING.

SO IT'S FORCING PEOPLE TO STEP OUTSIDE OF WHAT THEY REALLY WANT TO DO AND MAKE THESE MISTAKES.

SO I THINK TO HELP WITH THAT, SO OVERALL HEALTH WELLNESS.

TALK ABOUT EATING.

MENTAL HEALTH, HAVING PEOPLE, SUPPORTED ORGANIZATIONS THAT SUPPORT OUR PEOPLE AND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH AND ENCOURAGEMENT AND BATTLING ADDICTIONS.

REALLY GOOD BUDDY OF MINE, RICHARD COOPER.

SOBER 8 YEARS.

CONSULTANT.

HE WANTS TO HELP PEOPLE BREAK THESE ADDICTIONS AND GET INTO A BETTER LIFESTYLE FOR THEMSELVES.

THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WE NEED TO HAVE ON BOARD TO SORT OF THROW INTO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT IS ‑‑ WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THOSE THINGS.

SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT.

WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE SUPPORT, PARENTS, FRIENS, PEOPLE YOU SURROUND YOURSELF, DON'T HAVE THAT SUPPORT, YOU CAN'T HELP BUT GO DOWN THIS PATH.

IF YOU HAVE A SUPPORT SYSTEM, YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT CAN STEP IN AND SAY, THERE'S A BETTER WAY.

WE CAN DECREASE THAT.

>>Daryl: IS THERE A ROLE FOR OHA IN DEALING WITH THAT ISSUE?

>> COLLABORATION.

I'LL GO BACK TO WE DON'T NEED TOO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

PARTNER HELP THE PEOPLE DOING IT, AS AN EXAMPLE, PROGRAM CALLED KAWAILOA.

IT'S WITH PARTNERS IN DEVELOPMENT.

MARK PATTERSON IS ONE OF THE LEADERS.

HE USED TO RUN THE DETENTION HOMES.

>>Daryl: FACILITY.

>> FACILITY ON THE WINDWARD SIDE.

JUST RECEIVED $20 MILLION GRANT FROM KELLOGG.

TYPE OF COLLABORATION WE NEED TO SEEK OUT AND SUPPORT AS WELL.

>>Daryl: FINAL QUESTION.

ONLY GOT A MINUTE OR SO.

THERE'S A DISCONNECT IN THIS COMMUNITY BETWEEN HAWAIIAN CULTURE AND REST OF THE CULTURE.

HOW SAM KING, HOW WOULD YOU BRING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER?

IS THAT OHA'S JOB?

>> I THINK IS IT OHA'S JOB.

IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION IN A SINGLE MINUTE.

THE REALITY IS THAT WE ALL LIVE HERE TOGETHER.

THIS CULTURE WE HAVE HERE IS UNITED.

WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT THIS OR THAT, CULTURE IS ONE.

THIS IS THE CULTURE OF THIS PLACE OF HAWAII.

I MEAN, TRAVELED ALL OVER THE WORLD.

VERY BLESSED TO DO THAT.

EVERYBODY I MEET, EVERYBODY LOVES HAWAII.

TOURISM INDUSTRY, REALLY ABOUT THE IDEA THERE'S A PLACE IN THE WORLD WHERE THERE IS ALOHA SPIRIT WHERE EVERYBODY CAN LOVE EACH OTHER FOR WHO THEY ARE.

CONTENT OF THE CHARACTER.

NOT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE TOGETHER.

I WANT TO TRY TO DO THAT.

I WANT TO DO THAT.

>> SAM TOOK WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH AT THE END.

ALOHA.

IT'S WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL.

PEOPLE COME HERE.

THEY FEEL ALOHA SPIRIT.

THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP COMING BACK.

GOOD FOOD, CULTURE.

BEACHES.

GOT BEAUTIFUL WEATHER.

BUT ALOHA SPIRIT IS WHAT CAPTURES THEM.

IT'S ADDICTION, ENDORPHINS, I THINK PEOPLE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE.

AS LOCAL, NONHAWAIIANS HAWAIIANS, LIVE IN HAWAII, IT'S SO EASY TO FORGET THAT THAT MANA, THAT WE HAVE.

ALOHA SPIRIT.

SO BEING THAT I HAVE TRAVELED, MOVED AWAY, I WAS ABLE TO EXPERIENCE MAINLAND, CANADA AND SEE DIFFERENT CULTURES I WAS ABLE TO BRING ALOHA THAT SPIRIT, AND KEEP THAT WITH ME AND TOOK IT EVERYWHERE I WENT.

IT WAS INFECTIOUS.

INFECTS PEOPLE IN SUCH A POSITIVE WAY.

WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT.

GO BACK TO OUR ROOTS AND SPREAD THAT MESSAGE.

>> ONLY WAY WE DO THAT IS CONTINUE TO GET OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND EDUCATE PEOPLE.

>>Daryl: 20 SECONDS.

APOLOGIZE.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

DO YOU EVER WORRY THAT ALOHA IS IN JEOPARDY.

>> NO.

GO BACK TO THE BLOOD.

WE'RE ALL POI DOGS.

I'M HAWAIIAN.

FILIPINO PORTUGUESE.

I'M PROUD OF EVERY ONE OF THEM.

THERE'S A HYBRID THERE TOO.

SO JUST EVERYBODY VOTE FOR OHA.

VOTE FOR ME AND IF YOU WANT TO, VOTE FOR THEM.

>> VOTE SAM KING.

>>Daryl: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MAHALO FOR JOINING US TONIGHT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK OUR GUESTS, CANDIDATES FOR OHA AT‑LARGE BOARD OF TRUSTEES: SAM KING, CHAD OWENS, AND BRICKWOOD GALUTERIA.

PLEASE JOIN US NEXT WEEK AS WE REVIEW PROPOSED CHANGES TO COUNTY CHARTERS ACROSS THE STATE.

I’M DARYL HUFF FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII, ALOHA!