S TEST >> DO POLLS IN A WAY SHIFT THE MEMBER?

TO THEY LET VOTERS THINK, OH, I WANT TO BET ON THE WINNING TEAM?

I >> I THINK ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS IS THEY NOT ONLY ASK WHO THEY THOUGHT WOULD WIN AND YOU SAW A HALF POINT PERCENTAGE AND I THINK LEAD FOR BLAKE MASTERS AND IN THAT QUESTION, MARK KELLY HAD A LEAD AND KARI LAKE HAD A TWO AND A HALF POINT LEAD AND 15 POINT LEAD.

>> I'LL VOTE FOR HOBBS AND I THINK EVERYONE ELSE IS VOTING FOR LAKE.

>> FATALISM WITH HOBBS' VOTERS.

>> I'M ALWAYS CAUTIONARY ABOUT POLLS.

POLLS IN ARIZONA HAVE NOT BEEN EXTREMELY ACCURATE HISTORICALLY.

IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE PRIMARY OF WHAT THEY SAID THE SPREAD WOULD BE AS TO WHAT IT WAS, I MEAN, NOBODY WAS RIGHT ON, I DON'T THINK.

I'M SURE I'LL GET A TEXT AS SOON AS I GET OFF AND WAIT A MINUTE, WE WERE RIGHT ON.

[ Laughter ] >> THEY'RE NICE TO TALK ABOUT AND VOTERS WILL VOTE.

I'M GOING TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> I SHUTTER TO BRING IT DOWN.

SECRETARY OF STATE, SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, ATTORNEY GENERAL, WHICH WAY ARIZONA MAY BRING.

>> THE FEW POLLS WE HAVE SEEN ON THE LOWER BALLOT RACES SHOW A TYPICAL ARIZONA SPLIT, WHICH IS A SLIGHT REPUBLICAN LEAD, BUT DEPEND, WE HAVEAGAIN, WE HAVE TO WAIT AND NATIONALLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY BREAK FOR THE REPUBLICANS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DYNAMICS THAT WE DON'T SEE IN SOME OTHERS.

THERE IS THE COUNTER TO THE BIG INFLATION ARGUMENT, WHICH IS THE ABORTION.

ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE AGAINST INFLATION OR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS?

AND WHATEVER THE FACTORS ARE, WE HAVE A BIG ASSOCIATED PRESS POLLING OPERATION ON ELECTION NIGHTS, VERY LARGE.

AND WE ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND SO I'M LOOKING -- >> OR ENTRY POLLS, IS WHAT THEY KIND OF ARE.

>> THEY'RE ELECTION DAY POLLS OF VOTERS.

AND THEY SHOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY THEY MADE THE DECISION AND WHICH OF THOSE ISSUES REALLY DROVE AND WHICH WHAT THEY BROKE.

>> PAUL BENTZ WAS TALKING ABOUT THE POLL AND SHOWED 10% OF REPUBLICANS ARE VOTING FOR DEMOCRATS, LAKE AND HOBBS, AND WHAT IS THE SPLIT GOING ON AMONG THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?

WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFECTING TO THE DEMOCRATS?

>> IN A COUPLE OF RACES, YOU HAVE KARI LAKE WITH STUFF LIKE THE 2020 ELECTION, THE ELECTION DENIALS AND SECRETARY OF STATE'S RACE TO SENATE RACE AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REPUBLICANS WHO AREN'T HAPPY WITH BLAKE MASTERS, THE NOMINEE.

IN THE END, WE'LL SEE A LOT OF THE FOLKS COME HOME WHEN THEY CAST THEIR BALLOTS.

MAYBE A FEW MORE DEFECTIONS THAN YOU WOULD SEE.

KELLY, FOR ONE, HAS MADE A POINT OF REACHING TOWARDS THE CENTER TRYING TO CASTING HIMSELF AS AN ARIZONA FIRST AND DEMOCRAT SECOND.

I THINK, ESPECIALLY IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE, INTERESTED TO SEE IF THAT PLAYS OUT OR IF EVERYONE GOES BACK TO THEIR CAMPS AND VOTE FOR WHO THEY NORMALLY VOTE FOR.

>> THERE ARE SPLITS IN THE HIGH GROUND POLL AND I WAS INTERESTED IF THEY'RE AND ACCURATE, THERE ARE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER WHO ARE SHIFTING AND NOT JUST THE TOP OF THE TICKET BUT OTHER RACES, AS WELL.

AND WHAT'S DRIVING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A TRUMP FACTOR?

KARI LAKE EMBRACED TRUMP AND TRUMPISM.

WHETHER WE SEE THAT WILL PLAY OUT AS A REAL VOTE CHANGER.

>> I GUESS FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THE HIGH GROUND POLL RELEASED SHOW FIMCHEM DOWN TO FONTES AND HORN UP AND A LITTLE BIT AGAINST THE INCUMBENT KATHY HOFFMAN AND AT A CHAVEZ HIGH SCHOOL AND TRUMP RALLIED.

WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?

>> IT WAS A SMALL VENUE BECAUSE IT WAS PACKED AND HE CAME OUT, OBAMA, AND HE WAS RALLYING SUPPORT FOR ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES AND NOT JUST TALKING TO DEMOCRATS AND I WANT TO TALK TO THE REPUBLICANS, THE INDEPENDENTS, AS WELL.

YOU CAN STILL SUPPORT THESE CANDIDATES AND YOU'VE GOT TO ASK YOURSELF IF YOU'LL SUPPORT PEOPLE LYING TO YOU AND REALLY PUSH THIS IDEA THAT DEMOCRACY IS ON THE LINE WHICH IS SOMETHING THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN SAYING.

THE IDEA THAT TRUMPISM AND HARSH RHETORIC AND DENIALISM IS TOO DANGEROUS IN TAKING ARIZONA DOWN A BAD PATH.

HE DID WAIT TO THE LAST MINUTE TO WAIT, BUT HE DID SHOW UP.

IT SEEMED HE WAS PUSHING KELLY THE HARDEST, THINKING THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT RACE.

I WAS KIND OF LOOKING TO SEE IF HE WOULD TALK MORE ABOUT KELLY OR HOBBS AND SEEMED TO BE ABOUT KELLY.

>> BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW TIMES KELLY AND HOBBS HAVE BEEN TOGETHER ON A RALLY OR EVEN THE WHOLE SLATE OF DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES.

>> NOT EVERYONE WAS THERE AND SINEMA WASN'T THERE AND WE'VE ALL NOTICED.

SENATOR K ASHAZATA WASN'T THERE AND HE'S RUNNING FOR TREASURER AND I'M NOT SURE.

>> KARI LAKE HELD A RALLY IN CHANDER AND BROUGHT ON A SURPRISE GUEST, STEVE BANNON.

WHETHER IT MATTERS, THAT OBAMA IS HERE AND I GUESS WE CAN PLAY, WHAT ARE THE POLITICAL PARTIES THINKING THAT OBAMA IS HERE AND BIDEN IS NOT AND JOE BIDEN IS HERE AND THE PRESIDENT IS NOT AND STEVE BANNON IS HERE.

WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO DO?

>> WELL, ON THE LAKE SIDE, THEY'VE HAD A CAVELCADE.

THEY'VE BROUGHT IN TED CRUZ AND OTHER BIG NAMES TO DRAW THE CROWDS.

KARI LAKE HAS RUN AN ENERGETIC CAMPAIGN AND SHE'S HAD MULTIPLE BIG EVENTS AND INCLUDING THE ONE WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT A FEW WEEKS AGO OR MAYBE THREE WEEKS AGO NOW THAT WAS QUITE IMPRESSIVE.

>> AN ABSTRACT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

>> ALL RUNS TOGETHER FOR ME.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT Mr. BANNON DOES TO BRING HOME INDEPENDENTS WHO ARE NERVOUS AND SAY SAYING, I LEAN REPUBLICAN AND DO YOU BRING IN STEVE BANNON TO SEAL THE DEAL?

OR AS JEREMY AND I WERE TALKING BEFORE THE START OF THE SHOW, DOES THAT SHOW SHE THINKS IT IS NAILED AND DOESN'T NEED TO APPEAL?

>> ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS NOT IN CHANDLER IS GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY, A MODERATE WHO MIGHT APPEAL TO THE VOTERS ON THE FENCE?

>> WE'VE SEEN DOUG DUCEY IN MICHIGAN STOMPING FOR THEIR GUBERNATORIAL AND BRIAN KEMP IN GEORGIA AND I DO NOT THINK WE'VE SEEN HIM AT THE SAME TIME FOR KARI LAKE.

THEY'RE SPENDING A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO HELP KARI LAKE AND HE DOES NOT WANT TO LOSE HIS OWN STATE TO THE DEMOCRATS, REGARDLESS OF THE FRICTION BETWEEN HIM AND KARI LAKE AND CHOOSE WORDS.

>> AND VICE VERSA.

>> AND HE'S A FAIRLY POPULAR FIGUREAND HE WON BY DOUBLE DIGITS AND VIEWS VIEWED AS A REPUBLICAN IN GOOD STANDING.

IT'S INTERESTING SHE'S OUT CAMPAIGNING WITH DEVICIVE FOLKS LIKE STEVE BANNON AND AS BOB MENTIONED, IS THIS A SIGN SHE DOESN'T NEED TO APPEAL TO THE MIDDLE OR DOES NOT PARTICULARLY CARE.

HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION BEING RIGGED AND THIS IS WHERE IT STARTED AND COMPARING LIKE TO GEORGE WASHINGTON?

>> LAKE COMPARING HIM TO GEORGE WASHINGTON?

>> DID I HAVE THAT BACKWARD?

>> WE'LL ROLL THE TAPE BACK BUT THEY HAD KIND WORDS FOR EACH OTHER.

>> THEY DID.

>> SHE HAS TALKED ABOUT RUNNING AN UNCONVENTIONAL CAMPAIGN WHERE SHE'S NOT CONTROLLED BY CONSULTANTS AND SHE INVITING STEVE BANNON BECAUSE SHE'S FOLLOWING HER OWN INSTINCT.

>> THE DUCEY THING WAS INTERESTING AND IF WE PLAY A ROLE?

AND BY "WE" POLITICAL NEWS BECAUSE WHEN HE COMES OUT TO KARI LAKE, WHERE INSULTED EACH OTHER AND LETTING MONEY TALK AND THE ASSOCIATION IS PLAYING A ROLE IN THIS RACE.

>> SOME OF THE ADS, JUST AS A VIEWER, IN SPORTS, YOU CAN'T FAST-FORWARD AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN NOT JUST ANTI-HOBBS, BUT WE'RE SEEING REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR ADS THAT ARE PRO-LIKE, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW WE WOULD SEE BECAUSE HARSH WORDS FOR LAKE.

>> WHEN THE OUTSIDE MONEY THINKS, OH, WE HAVE IT HERE AND LET'S GET AN EXTRA POINT, THAT'S A TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN CYCLE AND MY WIFE AND I WATCH TELEVISION AND OK, SEE THIS IS WHERE WE ARE IN THE CYCLE.

[ Laughter ] >> IT'S INSIDE BASEBALL, OF COURSE, BUT THEY ARE AT THAT LEVEL RIGHT NOW.

>> LIKE ME, YOU'RE TURNING THE VOLUME UP DURING THE COMMERCIALS.

SOMEONE NOT ON THE BALLOT IS ATTORNEY GENERAL MARK BRNOVICH.

HE WAS ON "60 MINUTES" AND SAID A WORD WE CAN'T SAY ON POLITE TV AND CALLED THIS HORSE PUCKY AND WHAT MADE HIM SAY IT?

>> THEY WOULD SAY THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IS OVER AND HE WAS NOT THE NOMINEE AND CAN SPEAK MORE FREELY NOW.

HE'S BEEN UNDERFIRE WITH THE BIG FRAUD CLAIMS AND HE REFERRED AND TOLD THE FBI AND IRS, THEY SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING TRUE THE VOTE FOR THEIR 2,000 MULE'S MOVIE AND CALLED THE BIG LIE, CALLED THEM DRIFTERS IN ARIZONA.

THIS IS SUCH A MARKEDLY DIFFERENT TONE THAN WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PAST YEAR.

HE WAS RUNNING EARLIER, HE WAS PUTTING OUT INTERIM REPORTS, ACCUSING THE COUNTY OF MALFEASANCE AND GOING ON STEVE BANNON SHOW AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2020.

THE PENDULUM HAS GOING BACK AND FORTH.

HE WAS THE FIRST HIGH PROFILE REPUBLICAN IN THE STATE AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION TO SAY IT WASN'T RIGGED AND BIDEN WON AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

WE'VE SEEN HIM ALL OVER THE MAP HERE AND NOW HE'S BACK TO THE POSITION OF SAYING THESE FOLKS ARE DRIFTERS AND IT'S ALL HORSE POOP.

>> HE SAID IT INITIALLY AND NOT ONLY DID HE SAY TRUMP LOST AND PEOPLE VOTED AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET AND SHIFTED THE PARTY THE OTHER WAY.

WILL THIS MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THOSE WHO ARE WANTING TO BELIEVE THAT THE ELECTION IS RIGGED?

>> I THINK THOSE WHO BELIEVE THE ELECTION IS RIGGED ARE SET IN THOSE POSITION.

I THINK A COUPLE OF TAKE AWAY FROM BRNOVICH'S APPEARANCE ON "60 MINUTES" HAS A HUGE NATIONAL AUDIENCE, WHY WOULD BRNOVICH IGNORE ARIZONA AND NOT SAY THAT FOR THE LAST MONTH?

IF HE WANTED TO SAY IT A MONTH AGO, HE COULD HAVE GONE ON THIS SHOW AND, YOU KNOW, NUMEROUS OTHER EVENTS.

BUT NO, WHEN "60 MINUTES" CALLS, HE DOES IT AND HE'S GOING TO LEAVE OFFICE AND MAYBE HE WANTS A JOB DOING SOMETHING.

WHO KNOWS.

>> HE WAS CAGEY WITH JOHN STEWART.

>> I MEAN, JOHN STEWART ASKED HIM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES, TO SAY IT WASN'T.

>> JOHN STEWART DID, CORRECT.

>> BRNOVICH GOES ON "60 MINUTES" AND MAYBE HE'S JUST HAD ENOUGH AND IT'S I'VE ALREADY LOST AND WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO ME AND I'LL JUST SAY IT AND GOING BACK TO WHO HE WAS BEFORE HE STARTED THIS CAMPAIGN.

>> HE COULD HAVE SAID THAT ON JOHN STEWART, AS WELL, BUT DIDN'T.

SO WHAT'S UP WITH MARK BRNOVICH?

I DIDN'T BOTHER CALLING BECAUSE I KNEW THEY WOULDN'T CALL BACK.

SO ON THE MONDAY AFTER IT AIRED, TO SEE IF HE WOULD REPEAT IT FOR THIS OR SOMETHING, BUT HE HASN'T AND HE KNOWS MY NUMBER AND KNOWS HOW TO GET AHOLD OF EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AND DIDN'T.

WHAT IS MARK BRNOVICH'S END GAME?

I DON'T KNOW.

>> IT'S SAD BECAUSE HAD HE SAID IT ON APPLE TV, WE WOULD HAVE HEARD THE ACTUAL WORD.

[ Laughter ] >> KARI LAKE AT AN APPEARANCE BROUGHT UP AN OLD-SCHOOL TOPIC WHICH IS THE ELIMINATION OF OBAMACARE AND WANTS TO GET A BETTER PLAN.

IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT RAISED A LOT OF CHEERS IN THE ROOM FROM THE VIDEO I SAW.

WHAT IS THIS ABOUT?

>> WHEN I GOT TO THE DISCUSSION TOPICS, I LOOKED AND DID SHE PROPOSE SOMETHING ELSE?

SHE'S MAKING A BIG STATEMENT THERE, SAYING I THINK WE NEED TO GET RID OF OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, BUT THEN NOT OFFERING AN ALTERNATIVE, WHICH WOULD BE SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE IN PLACE IF WE GET RID OF OBAMACARE.

I DON'T KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT AND NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN TALKING TO ME ABOUT.

>> THE REPUBLICANS MADE IT A PET ISSUE FOR AWHILE AND IT SEEMS TO HAVE DIED OFF.

>> AFTER JOHN McCAIN WENT LIKE THIS AND THEY REALIZED THAT THEY HAD LOST A NATIONAL ELECTION OVER IT SEVERAL TIMES, YOU KNOW, THEY REALIZE, THIS IS BAKED IN.

YOU GO TO VOTERS AND SAY, NO, YOU'RE A 23-YEAR-OLD AT COLLEGE AND CAN'T GET NURSE INSURANCE AND HOW MANY POOR PEOPLE OR WALMART WORKERS WHO CAN'T AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THEIR FAMILY AND GOT FAKE MEDICAID, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU WANT TO UPSET BY GETTING RID OF OBAMACARE?

>> I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS PASSED, ANY PROGRAM PASSED AND PEOPLE GET USED TO IT.

>> WHEN YOU SAY REPEOPLE OBAMACARE, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.

IT'S NOT EASILY SIDES DONE.

WHEN McCAIN HAD IT DONE AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY IS THE MEDICAID EXPANSION THAT FORMER GOVERNOR BREWER FOUGHT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE WITH DEMOCRATS AND A HANDFUL OF REPUBLICAN VOTES.

THERE'S TENS OF THOUSANDS AND I HAVEN'T CHECKED THE NUMBERS BUT A LOT IN ARIZONA GETTING HEALTHCARE ON ACCESS ON MEDICAID BECAUSE OF THAT.

YOU START TALKING ABOUT REPEALING OBAMA AND AFTER THE 2024 ELECTION, MAYBE WE HAVE REPUBLICANS CONTROLLING THE WHITE HOUSE AND BOTH CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS, THIS COMES UP AGAIN.

BUT EXACTLY, WHAT PARTS GET REPEALED AND WHAT GETS REPLACED WITH, THERE'S A LOT OF PIPE TO WORRYTIME.

>> AT THE STATE LEVEL, WHAT CAN YOU DO ANYWAY?

>> LIBERTARIAN, MARK VICTOR, WHO SEEMED TO HAVE A GOOD SHOWING.

>> AN INTERESTING PART OF THE DEBATE.

HAS NOT ONLY DROPPED OUT AND ENDORSED BLAKE MASTERS AND WILL THIS TIP THE BALLOTS AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

>> I THINK THERE WAS SOME POLL THAT SAYS HE HAD MORE SUPPORT THAN I EXPECTED?

WHAT WAS IT, 11%?

>> AFTER HIS APPEARANCE?

>> IS IT POSSIBLE HIS ENDORSEMENT OF MASTERS WILL BRING THE PEOPLE TO MASTERS?

OF COURSE IT'S POSSIBLE AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE EXACTLY.

HE WAS THE CHARACTER AND I THINK THAT IT WAS NOT SUPER SURPRISING THAT HE DID DROP OUT.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE HIS STATEMENT WAS, AS A LIBERTARIAN, I THINK BLAKE MASTERS IS A LIBERTARIAN, TOO.

>> AND MASTERS DOES HAVE SOME OF THOSE SENTIMENTSES, BRAND OF CONSERVATIVETISM AND WHETHER THIS MOVES THE NEEDLES, VOTING FOR THE LIBERTARIAN, NOT BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY HAVE A CHANCE OF WINNING.

IT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE MARK KELLY AND BLACK BLAKE MASTERS.

I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL SAY, I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR VICTOR AND NOW I'LL VOTE FOR MASTERS.

>> WE WOULD WAIT FOR THE ASSOCIATED PRESS TO SAY IF THEY WERE THOSE VOTERS WHO DID SO.

>> MARK VICTOR DID IT SO LATE, ANY EFFECT, 75% OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED BY THE TIME HE OPENED HIS MOUNT AND DON'T VOTE FOR ME AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL MAKE AN IMPACT ANYWAY.

>> IF YOUR WEEKEND PLANS INVOLVED STANDING OUTSIDE OF A POLLING PLACE WITH A FLACK JACKET WITHIN 75 FEET WITH A GUN, A FEDERAL JUDGE HAS STOPPED YOU FROM DOING SO AND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS LAWSUIT ABOUT VOTING INTIMIDATION?

>> LEAVE YOUR FLACK JACKET AND LEAVE YOUR GUN AND VIDEO CAMERA.

THIS IS THE NOW MULTI-WEEK SAGA OVER THE MULE WATCHERS AND THESE FOLKS WHO HAVE BELIEVED THERE IS A WIDE-SPREAD CONSPIRACY OF BALLOT HARVESTERS TO DELIVER BALLOTS FOR THE ELECTION AND SOMETIMES ARMED AND TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS AND CONFRONTING THEM.

A FEDERAL JUDGE SAID YOU CAN STILL BE OUT THERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO -- THEY CAN'T BRING THEIR GUNS OR VIDEOTAPE PEOPLE AND IT WAS INTERESTING AND HAD YOU PUT STATEMENTS OUT ONLINE SAYING, HEY, IT IS NOT ACTUALLY A CRIME TO BRING OTHER PEOPLE'S BALLOTS, WHICH IS A MAJOR PART OF THIS DEBATE THAT GETS FORGOTTEN AND YOU CAN FRIDAY BRING YOUR SPOUSE'S BALLOT OR A CAREGIVER.

IF YOU SEE SOMEONE WALKING UP WITH THREE BALLOTS, YOU CAN'T JUMP TO THE CONCLUSION THAT PERSON IS BREAKING THE LAW.

PROBABLY A WIFE OR DULL KID.

ADULT KID.

ANYONE DROPPING OFF MULTIPLE BALLOTS IS BREAKING THE LAW.

THEY HAD TO SAY, THERE THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE LAW.

THIS DIFFERENT WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THEM.

>> I GUESS I SHOULD CORRECT MYSELF.

YOU CAN WALK WITH A GUN AND A FLACK JACKET NEAR A BALLOT BOX AND CANNOT BE A PART OF THIS GROUP.

THIS HAS INTERESTING FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES.

>> A NARROW RULING FROM A JUDGE.

YOU CAN'T BE WITH THIS GROUP OR AFFILIATED WITH THIS GROUP.

I DON'T THINK ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHO COMES ACROSS -- THIS IS 250 BEING ARMED AND 75 FEET FOR CAMERAS AND 75 FEET IS THE NORMAL APPROACH FOR CAMPAIGNING NEAR A VOTING LOCATION AND 250 FEET AND NO FLACK JACKETS, NO GUNS AND -- >> IF YOU'RE PART OF THIS GROUP.

>> OR ASSOCIATED WITH THIS GROUP OR AFFILIATED WITH THIS GROUP AND I DON'T THINK ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE STATE WILL SAY WHERE IS YOUR CARD.

>> CLEAN ELECTION.

>> I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO RUN THEM OFF.

>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THE DVP DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE AND FEAR AMONG VOTERS AND I KNOW WHEN WE SEE PEOPLE AT POLLING PLACES AND TRY TO INTERVIEW THEM NEAR THESE DROP BOXES, ANTAGANISM TOWARDS US FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE FROM OBVIOUS PEOPLE WHO SAY -- WHO YOU CAN TELL ARE OPPOSED TO THE REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO DO BALLOT WATCHING AND THOSE WHO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MEDIA IS HELPING IT.

BUT IT'S CAUSED SOME ANTAGANISM OUT THERE.

>> THESE ARE JUST TWO BOXES.

YOU CAN MAIL YOUR BALLOT IN.

>> OR COME IN-PERSON.

>> RIGHT.

>> OR GO TO ANY 30 CITY HALLS THAT HAVE DROP BOXES INSIDE.

SO THESE WERE NOT ALL THAT WELL USED.

THE ONE DOWNTOWN, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE POPULATION RIGHT AROUND DOWNTOWN PHOENIX AND ALL HIGHRISES ARE FULL OF WORKERS AND DROP THEIRS OFFICE AND THAT ONE HAS HEAVY SECURITY AROUND THERE AND IT'S THE ONE IN MESA THAT GOT THE MOST ATTENTION.

>> WE WILL SEE AND BOY, STRAP IN BECAUSE I HAVE A FEELING WE HAVE A FEW WEEKS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT GOES ON WITH THE ELECTION RESULTS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

I'M RICHARD R ELLIS IN FOR TED SIMONS AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.