>> Ted: NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," KRIS MAYES TALKS ABOUT HER PRIORITIES AS THE CHIEF ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND WHAT THEY HOPE TO SEE FROM THE GOVERNOR AND LEGISLATURE.

THE MUSICA-NOVA ORCHESTRA AND THAT'S NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY LOST ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO ABOLISH THE MAIL-IN VOTING LAWS.

THEY WERE CHALLENGED IN A CONSTITUTE FILED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THROUGH ALAN DERSHOWITZ AND.

THE APPEAL'S COURT DIDN'T BUY IT AND UPHOLDING THE DISMISSAL OF THE CASE.

AN UNSUCCESSFUL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR STATE OFFICE IN NEW MEXICO REMAINS IN CUSTODY AFTER ARRESTED IN THE RECENT SHOOTS AT THE HOMES OF STATE POLITICIANS.

SOLOMON PENA IS ACCUSED OF PROVIDING CARVEPROVIDING CASH AND FIREARMS WHO SHOT AT FOUR DEMOCRATIC OFFICIALS AND THE SHOOTINGS RESULTED IN DAMAGE AND NO ONE INJURED.

>>> A NEW STUDY SHOWS LOCAL FISH SHOWS SYNTHETIC TOXINS ACCORDING TO A HEALTH ORGANIZATION.

IT FINDS FOREVER CHEMICALS HAS GOTTEN IN THE LAKES, RIVERS AND STREAMS AND THEY HAVE ACCUMULATED IN FISH AND HIGH CONCENTRATIONS AND URGES THOSE THAT FISH FOR SPORT TO STRONGLY CONSIDER RELEASING THEIR CATCH INSTEAD OF EATING THE FISH.

>>> NEWLY ELECTED ARIZONA KRIS MAYES NARROWLY DEFEATED HER OPPONENT IN STATE HISTORY.

A RECOUNT CONFIRMED THE RESULTS WHICH KRIS MAYES IS THE ONLY WOMAN TO HOLD THIS AND NOW WE HAVE KRIS MAYES.

GOOD SEE YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: WHY DO YOU THINK YOU WON?

>> WE WON BECAUSE WE DELIVERED A MESSAGE AND BROUGHT AN APPROACH TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE THAT WAS BASED ON COMMON SENSE AND GETTING THIS OFFICE BACK TO THE CORE MISSION WHICH IS PROTECTING THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA AGAINST CONSUMER FRAUD, PROSECUTING ELDER ABUSE AND GOING AFTER AND PROSECUTING THE FENTANYL CRISIS THE FAMILIES ARE EXPERIENCING AND PROSECUTING ENVIRONMENTAL CRIME AND PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT AND PROTECTING THE WATER SUPPLIES AND DEPOLITICIZING THE AG'S OFFICE.

IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION'S OFFICE, THE AG'S OFFICE HAS GOTTEN POLITICAL AND THEY REJECTED IT.

>> Ted: IT WAS CLOSE.

>> THEY'LL CALLED ME LANDSLIDE MAYES.

>> Ted: WHY DO YOU THINK IT WAS CLOSE IN.

>> ARIZONA IS A POLITICALLY DIVIDED STATE, WE'RE A THIRD, A THIRD, A THIRD, AND THAT'S GREAT, ACTUALLY.

I MEAN, IT DIDN'T FEEL GREAT TOWARD THE END WHEN WE WERE COUNTING VOTES AND IT WAS SO CLOSE, BUT IT'S GREAT THAT ARIZONA IS SO COMPETITIVE.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT IT MEANS IF YOU WIN ELECTIONS, PUT UP GOOD CANDIDATES AND YOU BETTER NOT HAVE A NONSENSE MESSAGE AND YOU BETTER BE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTER TO EVERYONE IN ARIZONA AND THAT'S WHAT WINS RACES IN ARIZONA.

>> Ted: IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE?

A LOT OF THINGS YOU WANT TO CHANGE AND ANYTHING TO CONTINUE?

I THINK ATTORNEY GENERAL BRNOVICH DID SOME GOOD THINGS IN THE AREA OF CONSUMER PROTECTION AND I WAS PRETTY CRITICAL OF SOME OF THE THINGS.

I THINK HE COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER THING ON CONSUMER PROTECTION, BUT I WILL CONTINUE A FOCUS ON PROTECTING THE CONSUMERS OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA AND I THINK HE DID A GAD GOOD JOB OF PROTECTING FIREFIGHTERS WHO WERE DEALING WITH CANCER-RELATED CLAIMS AND I WILL CONTINUE THAT POLICY AND THAT EFFORT ON BEHALF OF FIREFIGHTERS.

>> Ted: THAT SAID, YOU SAID YOU WANT TO RETURN THE OFFICE TO RESPECTABILITY AND INTEGRITY.

WAS THERE A LACK OF INTEGRITY WITH THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION?

>> THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION GOT VERY POLITICAL AND ENGAGED IN A LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING DO WITH PROTECTING THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA.

I THINK FILING NUMEROUS POLITICAL LAWSUITS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WASTED A LOT OF MONEY AND I THINK NOT PROTECTING VOTE-BY-MAIL WAS A TERRIBLE DECISION BY MY PREDECESSOR.

I DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON IT TOO MUCH AND IT'S IN THE PAST AND THAT'S NOT THE ADMINISTRATION THAT I WANT TO PUT FORWARD AND THAT I INTEND TO LEAD ARIZONA AS' ATTORNEY GENERAL.

'S ATTORNEY GENERAL.

>> Ted: ARE YOU WILLING TO DEFEND THE STATE ON ISSUES YOU DON'T AGREE WITH?

>> SURE.

I HAVE TO ENFORCE THE LAW OF ARIZONA AS.

I DON'T INTEND TO ENFORCE A BLATANT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW LIKE THE ABORTION 1864 ABORTION BAN AND WAS PASSED WHEN ARIZONA WASN'T A STATE AND THAT IS PATENTLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND VIOLATES THE STATE'S PRIVACY CLAUSE.

I WILL NOT ENFORCE LAWS THAT VIOLATE ARIZONA'S CONSTITUTION WHICH IS THE TOP LAW OF ARIZONA.

>> Ted: THE 15th WEEK BAN AND IS THAT THE LAW OF THE LAND?

>> THE 15th WEEK BAN IS THE LAW THAT REMAINS IN PLACE.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS, I THINK IT, TOO, VIOLATES THE PRIVACY CLAWS AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING THAT CASE TO THE SUPREME COURT AT SOME POINT.

>> Ted: NOT NECESSARILY A DEFENSE THERE.

>> I THINK IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

WE'LL SEE THAT PLAY OUT IN THE COURTS AND THESE ABORTION BANS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THE SUPREME COURT HAS NOT ADDRESSED THE PRIVACY ARGUMENT YET.

IT HASN'T BEEN MADE AND WASN'T EVEN MADE DOWN IN THE APPEAL'S COURT CASE IN TUCSON SO IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE WHETHER THE SUPREME COURT ADDRESSES THAT ISSUE AND ARIZONA HAS A VERY ROBUST RIGHT TO PRIVACY EXPRESS IF OUR CONSTITUTION AND I INTEND TO UPHOLD THAT.

>> Ted: YOU EXPRESS THE CONCERN REGARDING THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION POLITICIZING CERTAIN ISSUE AND ARE YOU NOT POLITICIZING THIS ISSUE?

>> I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE I'M BASING MY DECISION IN THE CONSTITUTION.

I AM ASKING THE COURTS TO CONSIDER ARIZONA'S CONSTITUTION AND I, TOO, THINK I DON'T THINK THAT'S POLITICIZING THIS AT ALL AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHERE ARIZONA IS.

PEOPLE IN ARIZONA DON'T THINK IT'S THE POLICE TO MAKE PRIVATE DECISIONS LIKE THIS ONE.

THE MOST PRIVATE OF ALL POSSIBLE DECISIONS ON THEIR BEHALF.

SO I THINK THINK THAT'S POLITICIZING IT.

>> Ted: THE SAUDI ARABIA FARMS USING ARIZONA GROUNDWATER.

IT'S AN AGREEMENT, IT'S A LEASE AND CAN IT BE CHALLENGED?

YES, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTUALLY.

>>> THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL A LOT.

IT'S INSANE THAT THE STATE OF ARIZONA FOR THE LAST EIGHT OR MORE YEARS ALLOWED A SAUDI-OWNED CORPORATION, TED, TO TAKE OUR GROUNDWATER IN WESTERN ARIZONA EXPERIENCING AN EPIC DROUGHT AND THE COLORADO RIVER IS THREATENED AND LAKE MEAD IS NEARING WHAT'S CALLED DEADPOOL STATUS AND GIVING IT AWAY TO THE SAUDIS FOR FREE AND THAT VIOLATES THE GIFT CARD OF THE CONSTITUTION AND I'M ACTING TO CANCEL THAT.

>> Ted: INSANE, MAYBE, BUT HOW WOULD IT BE INCONSTITUTIONAL?

>> THE STATE OF ARIZONA CANNOT GIVE AWAY ANYTHING AND THAT WATER ANYTHING, I'M MEETING WITH ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS TOMORROW ON THIS ISSUE BECAUSE THEY ARE OUTRAGED IN LAPAZ COUNTY FOR THE GIVE AWAY TO THE SAUDIS.

>> Ted: CAN THEY QUANTIFY IT, THOUGH?

>> THE FORMER GOVERNOR, THEY QUANTIFIED THAT THE AT $38 MILLION.

>> Ted: YOU WANT A DELAY IN THE SCHOOL FUNDING REGARDING CAPITAL FUNDING AND SUCH AND THE SCHOOLS CLAIM THAT BUDGET CUTS HAVE CUT THEM SHORT AND STATE SAYS NOT SO FAST.

AGAIN, THIS IS A CHANCE FOR YOU TO DEFEND THIS AND WILL YOU DEFEND THE STATE ON THIS?

>> HERE IS WHAT THE GOVERNOR AND I, GOVERNOR HOBBS AND I DECIDED TO DO.

AS YOU NOTED, THERE'S A LITIGATION GOING ON AND THERE'S BEEN A CHALLENGE TO THE SCHOOL FUNDING FORMULA AND TO THE WAY THAT WE HAVE FUNDED SCHOOLS.

SOME WOULD SAY UNDERFUNDED SCHOOLS AND A CHALLENGE TO IT.

I THINK WE CAN DEAL WITH THIS.

THE GOVERNOR AND I CAN DEAL WITH THIS, ADDRESS THIS WITH THE PARTIES CHALLENGING THAT FORMULA.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THROUGH LITIGATION.

SO WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IS TO GIVES US TIME TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THIS ISSUE AND THEY'VE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, MY PREDECESSOR DID, THE GOVERNOR DID, GOVERNOR DUCEY, LITIGATING OVER SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY WORK THROUGH.

>> Ted: WORK THROUGH WITHOUT LEGISLATIVE INTERFERENCE OR LEGISLATIVE CONTRIBUTION, I SHOULD SAY.

>> WE'LL SEE.

WE MAY NEED LEGISLATIVE CONTRIBUTION TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM ULTIMATELY, WHICH IS FUNDING OUR SCHOOLS.

SO, YEAH, THE LITIGATION, I THINK, IS WHAT'S COSTLY.

WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO RESOLVE IT.

>> Ted: KRIS MAYES, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: WHAT A TOP ECONOMIST HOPES TO SEE FROM KATIE HOBBS AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

>> WHAT CAN NEW GOVERNOR KATIE HOBBS AND THE LEGISLATURE DO TO FURTHER ARIZONA'S ECONOMY.

JIM ROUNDS JOINS US TO SHARE HIS THOUGHTS ON WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

>> GOOGOOD TO SEE YOU.

TED >> Ted: WHAT DOES GOVERNOR HOBBS SEE?

>> TO CONTINUE THE ECONOMIC GROWTH WE'VE BEEN BENEFITING FROM.

WE'VE WENT THROUGH THAT GREAT SHAKE-UP DURING THE GREAT RECESSION AND WE'RE GETTING COMPETITIVE.

NOW I THINK WE'RE AT THE POINT TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND THINKING ABOUT NEW INDUSTRIES TO DEVELOP AND THINKING ABOUT BEING STRATEGIC WITH WORKFORCE INVESTMENT.

THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE DEVELOP THESE THINGS WHERE IT'S CROSSING PARTY LINES, WHERE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.

IT'S HELPING EVERYBODY, THE RISES TIDE LIFTS ALL SHIPS AND CAN YOU GO IN THAT DIRECTION?

>> Ted: IN A DIRECTION THAT SEEMS AS PARTISAN AS IT IS?

>> THE MEMBERS THAT I WOULD NORMALLY BRAINSTORM WITH OR CONSULT WITH ON OCCASION, THEY LIKE THE ECONOMIC IDEAS.

SOMETIMES POLITICS COME IN AND THAT WILL OVERSHADOW THE GOOD IDEAS AND THEY'RE WILLING TO LISTEN.

THE GOVERNOR WILL WANT TO ADOPT GOVERNOR PLANS AND A LOT OF THE BUDGET IS BASED ON A LOT OF EDUCATION INVESTMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WHAT WAS MISSING IS MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE TAX CUTS, WE'VE DONE THAT, BUT THE RIGHT INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE YEARS.

>> Ted: INCENTIVES, AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THESE SORTS OF THINGS?

>> YES, BUT THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE IDEAS AND TWO BIG ONES.

AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL TECH DISCUSSION THAT I THINK YOU AND I CHATTED ABOUT, WHICH IS WE DON'T HAVE A HUB IN THE COUNTRY AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HUGGING TREES.

I'M TALKING ABOUT US DOING THE R & D IN THE NATION AND MANUFACTURING.

NOT JUST OUR LOCAL ENVIRONMENT, BUT DOING IT GLOBALLY.

WHEN WE SEND PEOPLE OUT TO GET INFORMATION ON THOSE TOPICS, WE SEND THEM TO ISRAEL AND OTHER PLACES ACROSS THE GLOBE.

WHY CAN'T THEY COME HERE?

IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT STRATEGY AND SUPPORTERS, THIS COULD BE A MULTI-DOLLAR INDUSTRY AND THIS COULD BE USED FOR THE EDUCATION PROGRAMS.

>> Ted: WHAT'S KEEPING THAT FROM HAPPENING?

>> I THINK WE'RE AT THE FRONT END OF THINKING ABOUT THIS AND THIS IS SOMETHING MYSELF AND TALKING ABOUT UNIVERSITIES AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN BRAINSTORMING ON AND WHAT WE NEED IS A CHAMPION.

THE CHAMPION IN THE PAST, WHENEVER THERE'S BEEN SOMETHING BIG, IT WOULD COME FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OR HOUSE AND SENATE WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO IF THEY COULD WORK TOGETHER, THOUGH, AND ADVANCE THE ECONOMY AND MAYBE PUT THE POLITICS ASIDE FOR IT, THIS WILL BE A HUGE LIFT AND INCREASING INCOMES AND IT WOULD BE A LEGACY TYPE OF AN ITEM.

>> Ted: CROSS-BORDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHERE DO WE STAND AND WHERE SHOULD WE GO?

>> WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT THE BORDER, WE REALLY DON'T TALK ABOUT ECONOMICS THAT MUCH.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A WALL OR THINGS LICK THAT WELL, ONE THING THAT WE WERE THINKING OF, CAN WE HAVE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR FRIENDS SONORA AND A JOINT ECONOMIC PLAN TO LIFT ECONOMIES ON BOTH SIDES?

THERE'S A LOT OF NEAR-SHORING FROM CHINA AND ASIA AND WHAT IF WE LOCATED BUSINESSES IN MEXICO.

WE HAD GOOD PARTNERS WITH THEM.

IF WE COULD LIFT THE ECONOMY, THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND IT'S A MORE HOLISTIC WAY OF ADDRESSING THIS AND THAT HAS MORE THAN THE ENVIRONMENT TECH.

>> Ted: THE DUCEY ADMINISTRATION HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM AND THE CONTAINER BORDER WALL SENDING MIXED MESSAGES AND TIME TO GET RID OF THE MIXED MESSAGES?

>> TIME TO GET RID OF THE MIXED MESSAGES, BUT WE WOULD NEED IDEAS.

WE WOULD SAY HERE IS A GREAT IDEA AND LET WORK ON IT AND THEN MAYBE A REPORT AND WE'LL NEVER SEE IT.

WHY DON'T WE GET SPECIFIC AND WORK ON A DEEP WATER PORT IN MEXICO AND WORK ON A BETTER RAIL COMING UP AND LET SET UP HOW WE HAVE JOIN BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

WE CAN HAVE CROSS-BORDER ACTIVITY AND EVERYBODY BENEFITS AND THEN YOU GET ECONOMIES GOING.

>> Ted: EVERYTHING WORKS WELL IF YOU HAVE THE WATER AND THIS GOES BACK TO FUNDING.

BUT HAS THE RUBBER HIT THE ROAD AS FAR AS WATER CONCERNS AND ARE PEOPLE PEOPLE ATTENTION?

>> THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION BUT THE SOLUTIONS ARE WEAK.

IN FACT, I TWEETED THAT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE GROUNDWATER ISSUES AND WE'RE NOT ASKING THE DETAILED QUESTIONS.

ONE THING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HUNDRED YEAR SUPPLY.

THAT WAS SET BECAUSE IT'S 1 FOLLOWED BY TWO ZEROS AND WHAT ABOUT 115?

WHAT ABOUT THE BIGGEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND CAN WE BRING THINGS IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL TECH DISCUSSION AND MAYBE HAVE FARMS IMPLEMENT SOME WATER SAVING TECHNOLOGIES THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE PUT IN THEMSELVES BUT A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND GOVERNMENT?

WE CAN'T RUN GOVERNMENT LIKE A BUSINESS AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT A BUSINESS WOULD BE THINKING ABOUT IF THEY MAKE AN INVESTMENT.

WE HAVE TO GET PASSED THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEES AND WE HAVE TO SAY THIS PERSON IS WORK ON THIS WITH THIS DEPARTMENT AND GET DONE IN NOVEMBER AND HAVE A PROPOSAL NEXT SESSION AND IMPLEMENT SOMETHING AND CREATE ADDITIONAL FOR ARIZONA HOUSEHOLDS.

>> Ted: WITH THE LEGISLATURE IN PLACE, ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME, EITHER TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU MENTIONED?

>> I WOULDN'T BE HAPPY UNLESS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS.

WE HAVE TO GET GOING NOW AND THEN IMPLEMENT SOME NOW AND THEN I'LL BE HORRIBLY DISAPPOINTED IF THIS DOESN'T GAIN TRACTION BECAUSE IT'S PROVEN TO HELP THE ECONOMY, BUILDS A TAX SPACE FOR WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON AND HOW A BUSINESS WOULD OPERATE.

WE CAN BRING THAT INTO ARIZONA, BUT WE NEED PEOPLE TO GET PASSED THE POLITICS AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR MY HOME STATE AND THAT'S WHERE I CARE SO MUCH.

>> Ted: JIM, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> THANKS.

>> Ted: AN EVENT AT THE SCOTTSDALE CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS AND A SON LEARNING HOW HIS PARENTS ESCAPED FROM NAZI, GERMANY AND THIS IS A PERFORMANCE BY THE MUSICA-NOVA AND THE FOUNDER.

THANK YOU BOTH.

AND MARTIN, TALK ABOUT THIS STORY AND GIVES US AN OVERVIEW OF THE STORY, IF YOU WILL.

>> WELL, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, I PUBLISHED A BOOK CALL THE INEXTINGUISHABLE SYMPHONY, A THROUGH STORY OF MUSIC AND LOVE IN NAZI, GERMANY, IN WHICH I TELL THE STORY OFMY OF MY PARENTS PLAGUE INPARENTPLAYING IN AN ORCHESTRA.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS ABOUT GERMAN COMPANIES AND ORCHESTRAS AND THESE ARTISTS CAME TOGETHER IN THE LATE SPRING AND EARLY SUMMER OF 1933 TO FORM THIS FIGURING THEY COULD NOT MAKE ART FOR THEIR FELLOW GERMANS BUT THE FELLOW GERMAN JEWS AND ONLY JEWS WERE ALLOWED TO PERFORM.

AS IT HAPPENS, MY PARENTS MET TOTALLY BY CHANCE IN ONECH IN ONE OF THOSE ORCHESTRAS AND FELL IN LOVE AND THAT'S THE REST OF THE STORY.

>> Ted: AS WE LEARN THROUGH THE FILM, "A WINTER JOURNEY," BASICALLY THEY USE IT FOR PROPAGANDA, DID THEY NOT?

>> THEY ALLOWED THIS TO NOT ONLY BE IN EXIST AUDIENCE BUTENCE BUT TO THEY'VE THRIVE AND THE PRIME MINISTER REASONED THAT HE COULD USE THIS TO DEFLECT CRITICISM IF THE OVERSEAS BEGAN TO ATTACK AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN O ORCHESTRA AND HOW BAD COULD IT BE.

>> Ted: AND WARREN COHEN, IT WAS NEILSON'S.

>> THEY REHEARSED IT AND DID NOT GET TO PERFORM IT AND SOMETHING TRULY IRONIC ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE INEXTINGUISHABLE THING WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS EXTINGUISHED RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

>> Ted: THAT'S CALLED THE "INEXTINGUISHABLE."

AND WHY?

>> AT THE FRONT OF IT, HE SAYS THAT LIFE AND MUSIC ARE INEXTINGUISHABLE AND NOT QUITE THAT WORDING BUT THAT IDEA AND THE IDEA IS THAT MUSIC IS INEXTINGUISHABLE AND YOU CAN'T GET RID OF MUSIC, BUT ALSO, HUMAN SPIRIT IS ALSO INEXTINGUISHABLE.

AND HE WROTE THAT DURING WORLD WAR I AND WROTE IT AS A TESTAMENT TO THE INEXTINGUISHABLE SPIRIT TO HUMAN BEINGS AND MUSIC.

>> Ted: YOU'LL PERFORM THAT AND MARTIN, BACK TO THAT FILM, THERE'S ROUGH STAFF AS FAR AS FAMILY DYNAMICS ARE CONCERNED.

>> THERE ARE, INDEED, BUT THE FILM IS A PRODUCT OF -- A FELONY PHONE CALL FROM THE AWARD WINNER DANISH DIRECTOR AND ASKED IF I WOULD BE HAVING THE BOOK TO BE TURNED INTO A FILM.

I JUMPED AT THE CHANCE AND WE BEGAN COLLABORATING ON THE SCRIPT TO CAST AS MY FATHER, THE GREAT SWISS-BORN ACTOR.

IT IS ME INTERVIEWING MY FATHER.

MY PARENTS, AFTER THEY RETIRED FROM PLAYING IN ORCHESTRAS RETIRED IN TUCSON AND SOMETIMES STRAINED RELATIONS BETWEEN ME AND MY FATHER.

I'M PROUD OF THE FACT MY FATHER PLAYED THE GREAT BRUNO GANZ AND 12 YEARS AGO, HE WENT INTERNATIONAL BECAUSE OF THE GREAT HITLER AND THIS IS THE LAST FILM BEFORE HIS DEATH IN 2019.

>> Ted: WARREN, THE ORCHESTRA PLAYING AFTER SEEING THAT FILM, AND IT HAS AN EXTRA OOMPH?

>> YES.

WHAT IT FEELS ALMOST LIKE, WE ARE COMPLETING SOMETHING THAT MEANT TO BE COMPLETED THAT WAS NOT.

THE IDEA WAS THAT THEY MEANT TO PLAY THE SYMPHONY AND WE ARE MAKING THIS INEXTINGUISHABLE.

>> Ted: AND AS FAR AS COMBINING THE TOO TOGETHER, THAT'S HOW THE PERFORMANCE WILL RUN?

>> FIRST THERE WILL BE THE FILM AND MARTIN AND I WILL BE A Q & A AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PERFORM WITH CHORUS WITH WORDS THAT I MODIFIED FROM THE FINISHED WORDS TO BE MORE UNIVERSAL.

THAT WAS ABOUT FIN'S OVERCOMING ZARUS AND THEN THE SYMPHONY AND THEY DID THIS ON THE LAST CONCERT THEY PERFORMED.

>> Ted: THAT'S THIS WEEKEND AT SCOTTSDALE CENTER FOR THE ARTS.

EVERY TIME YOU WATCH THE FILM, DO YOU SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

>> I DO, AND I SEE IT PORTRAYED BY BRUNO GANZ AND HE'S EXTRAORDINARY AND THE FILM IS MOVING.

>> Ted: THAT'S FANTASTIC.

MARTIN GOLDSMITH AND WARREN COHEN FROM THE MUSICAA ORCHESTRA.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING!