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>> ELECTION RESULTS.

DIEGO MORALES MAKES HISTORY WHILE TODD YOUNG CRUISES TO A SECOND TERM.

PLUS, CONTROVERSIAL SUPREME COURT CASE AND A MARION COUNTY NURSING HOME AND MORE.

FROM THE TELEVISION STUDIOS AT WFYI, IT IS INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW , THE WEEK ENDING NOVEMBER 11, 2022.

>> INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW IS MADE POSSIBLE BY SUPPORTERS OF INDIAN PUBLIC BROADCASTING STATIONS .

>> REPUBLICAN DIEGO MORALES MADE HISTORY.

HE IS THE FIRST HISPANIC, STATEWIDE ELECTED OFFICIAL IN INDIANA HISTORY AS HE WON THE RACE FOR SECRETARY OF STATE >> MORALES IS CAMPAIGN HAD BEEN DOGGED BY CONTROVERSY BUT HE WAS DEFIANT IN VICTORY AS HE CRUISED TO COMFORTABLE WHEN .

>> THE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS.

LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN, THE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS.

ALWAYS.

>> DEMOCRAT - - CONCESSION SPEECH WAS A CALL TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT AGAINST EFFORTS TO TEAR DOWN OUR DEMOCRACY .

>> REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, LIBERTARIANS, INDEPENDENCE, ALL OF US.

WE MUST FIGHT TOGETHER TO STRENGTHEN AND REINFORCE OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM .

>> DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT WON THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE SINCE 1990.

>> ARE DEMOCRATS IRRELEVANT IN STATEWIDE RACES?IT IS THE FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL.

DEMOCRAT AND DELANEY, REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN.

CAITLIN LANGE, STATEHOUSE REPORTER FOR THE INDIANA STAR AND MICKEY KELLY, EDITOR IN CHIEF OF THE INDIANA CAPITAL CHRONICLE.

I AM BRANDON SMITHMIKE O'BRIEN, IF DEMOCRATS CANNOT WIN THIS SEE CHEMICAL YOU IN ANY STATEWIDE?

>> THAT HAS BEEN THE QUESTION OF THE WEEK, CAN DEMOCRATS WIN STATEWIDE ANYMORE?

WHEN CAITLIN AND I TALKED ON WEDNESDAY, I SAID LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.

LET'S TAKE INDIANA OUT OF IT.

IF I SAID ONE ARE ILLINOIS VOTERS GOING TO ELECT A REPUBLICAN STATEWIDE , I WOULD SOUND LIKE AN OUT OF TOUCH WARMER IDIOTRIGHT NOW, I NEVER WANT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT ANYMORE, WE ARE RUNNING COMPETITIVE ENGAGING, STATEWIDE ELECTIONS THAT IS A YOU START DETERIORATING.

IF YOU LOOK NATIONALLY AND ZOOM OUT AGAIN , STATES A LINEUP AND ONE OF THREE BUCKETS RIGHT NOW.

YOU ARE EITHER HOLDING THE HARDLINE FOR REPUBLICANS, HOLDING THE HARDLINE DEMOCRATS, OR YOUR ONE OF THESE FIVE STATES THAT ROTATE IN AND OUT OF BEING THE SWING STATE THAT DECIDES MAJORITIES IN CONGRESS OR THE WHITE HOUSE.

WE ARE JUST NOT FAIR.

JUST LIKE IN ILLINOIS WERE DEMOCRATS HAVE HAD THIS GENERATIONAL CONTROL, IF I WAS IN ILLINOIS WHEN ALL THAT FLIPPING 2002.AT THE TIME I WAS LIKE , IT WAS NOT A SECRET.

THIS IS NOT FLIPPING BACK.

IF YOU WANT A JOB, YOU MAY WANT TO GO BACK TO INDIANA MIKE AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AT AS A PARTY.

THIS IS A DEEPLY RED STATE, THE PARTS OF THE STATE THAT A DEEPLY BLUE STILL PROVED DEEPLY BLUE.

MARION COUNTY, LAKE COUNTY TO A LESSER DEGREE, ALTHOUGH FIVE POINTS IS THE RAZORS EDGE IN THAT DISTRICT FOR REPUBLICANS .

>> I LIKE MANY WAS PROTECTING A RED WAVE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ON TUESDAYTHAT CLEARLY DID NOT MATERIALIZE.

IS THAT IN A WAY ALMOST WORTH DEMOCRATS HERE?

AT LEAST HAD THERE BEEN A RED WAVE EVERYWHERE YOU COULD GO THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD DO.

HERE, YOU CANNOT GET TRACTION ON A STATEWIDE ELECTION .

>> YOU CANNOT GET TRACTION FOR THE STANDALONE OFFICES, THAT IS RIGHT FOR YOU CAN EVER RAISE ENOUGH MONEY.

THE REPUBLICANS OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES, NOT ONLY NOMINATING THIS CLEARLY UNQUALIFIED BOZO , BUT THEN SUPPORTING HIM EVEN AFTER THE ALLEGATIONS OF GROPING AND PERHAPS VOTER FRAUD.

I WONDER WHETHER THE HENDRICKS COUNTY PROSECUTORS , ALL OF YOU GUYS HAVE TALKED ABOUT SINCE TRUMP LOS THE ELECTION TO 2020, IS VOTER FRAUD.

HE WILL LOOK TO BE ALLEGATIONS RAISED FOR THE INDIANAPOLIS FRAUD ARE CORRECT, AND IF SO, INDICT HIM .

>> YOU ARE NOT COMPETITIVE IN THE U.S. SENATE .

>> WE DO NOT HAVE A STRONG CANDIDATE IN THE U.S. SENATE.

I WILL GRANT YOU THAT BECAUSE HE HAD AND ENCUMBERED .

>> MORE THAN AN INCUMBENCY, TODD YOUNG IS AN EXTREMELY STRONG CANDIDATE .

>> HE IS ALSO NOT CRAZY.

HE DID NOT CERTIFY THE ELECTION.

HE CERTIFY THE ELECTION.

THERE ARE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.

HE DOES NOT RAISE THE LEVEL OF INTIMACY .

THE GUBERNATORIAL RACE MAY BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME AROUND .

>> MAYBE, BUT WE HAVE ABOUT 15 20 AND THREE OF THE LAST FOUR.

>> YOU APPROVED THAT AT THIS MOMENT, YOU CAN ELECT ANYBODY.

THAT IS WHO YEARS , ANYBODY AND HE IS TERRIBLEOU WILL BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF AS A PARTY FREELY GIVE HIM THE NOMINATION !

>> 2024 COULD BE A VERY INTERESTING ELECTION YEAR HERE IN INDIANA .

>> ESPECIALLY IF TRUMP IS ON THE BALLOT AGAIN .

>> THE NATIONAL BALLOT PLAYING A HUGE ROLE.

THERE'S A QUESTION IF MIKE BRAUN WILL RUN FOR U.S.'S AND AGAIN FOR REELECTION OR WHETHER HE WILL TALK TO THE GOVERNOR'S RACE WILL WILL CREATE OPEN SENATE RACE AND GOVERNOR'S RACE.

IT CAN BE A WIDE-OPEN FIELD , IF THAT WERE THE TEST OF WHAT DEMOCRATS CAN DO IN THE STATE, OR WILL IT BE SLOWLY TRYING TO BUILD HERSELF BACK INTO RELEVANCY?

>> WE CAN ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE NEXT RACE, BUT WE HAVE RACES THAT JUST HAPPENED.

THERE WAS NO QUESTION, IT WAS ABSOLUTELY DEFINITIVE.

EVEN DIEGO MORALES'S MARGINS ON A BEEN IMPACTED BY ALL THOSE .

HE WAS TO LET 80% OF THE VOTE .

MAYBE THEY CAN SWING 24 BUT UNLESS AN AMAZING CANDIDATE STEPS UP, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN .

>> IT STARTS TODAY.

[CROSS TALK] >> I WILL SAY THIS THOUGH, AND BROUGHT UP THE POINT OF MONEY.

I TALKED TO SOMEONE ON TUESDAY NIGHT AT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY EVENT TO SAID AS WE SAW THAT DIEGO MORALES WAS CLEARLY GOING TO WIN, LISTEN, YOU GET OUTSIDE OF THE INDIANAPOLIS AREA AND NOBODY KNEW ABOUT ALL THE STUFF THAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE CAMPAIGN.

THAT IS A PROBLEM OF MONEY, THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT .

IS THAT REALLY AT THIS POINT WHAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE TO REALLY DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY IRRELEVANT?

AN INFLUX OF CASH ?

>> IT IS CHALLENGING , IT IS VERY MUCH A CHICKEN AND EGG PROBLEM OF WHAT CAME FIRST.

THE MORE DEMOCRATS LOSE HERE , THE LAST NATIONAL GROUPS WANT TO INVEST HERE.

AGAIN, THAT MAKES IT HARDER TO WIN HERE.

IT IS THIS ENDLESS CYCLE HERE UNLESS YOU HAVE A SELF FUNDER OR A REALLY ATTRACTIVE TOP OF THE BALLOT CANDIDATE.

I AGREE, NOT EVERYONE IS READING EVERY NEWS ARTICLE ABOUT DIEGO MORALES.

WITHOUT HAVING THE MONEY TO PAY FOR ADS, IT IS VERY CHALLENGING TO WIN .

>> I SUPPOSE ONE AREA WHERE THE QUESTION I JUST ASKED IS THE DIFFERENCE WERE DEMOCRATS ONE THERE WERE NOT DEEP BLUE WHICH WAS THE MARION COUNTY PROSECUTOR'S RACE.

IN THE FIRST DISTRICT TO MATERNAL NATIONAL MONEY QUARTER THAT RECENTLY WERE ABLE TO SURVIVE IN A YEAR REPUBLICANS DOMINATED A LOT OF ELECTIONS .

>> DEMOCRATS OF THE PUT MONEY - - THAT IS A PROBLEM TOO.

YOU CANNOT EXPAND THE MAP IF YOU ARE DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU COME FROM .

>> THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM TOO IN HAMILTON COUNTY.

IT WILL CHANGE IN THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE OR THE ONE AFTER THATHEY PUT A FORTUNE AGAINST RYAN AND IT MADE A THREE POINT DIFFERENCE MAYBE?

>> COMPARATIVELY TO A NORMAL PROSECUTION'S RACEAS MUCH AS REPUBLICANS CLEARLY DOMINATED HERE IN INDIANA, IN THE SENATE , PROBLEMS PICKED UP ONE SEAT .

>> I THINK THE FLEMING SEAT IS GOING TO FLIP.

THEY FOUND 1800 VOTES THAT THEY FORGOT TO COUNT .

>> TIME NOW FOR VIEWER FEEDBACK.

EACH WEEK THE PERSON UNSCIENTIFIC POLL QUESTION AND THIS BIG QUESTION IS WHEN WILL INDIANA DEMOCRATS NEXT TO WIN A STATEWIDE STATE?

WITHIN FIVE YEARS, 5 TO 10 YEARS OR MORE THAN 10 YEARS 90% REPUBLICAN DIEGO MORALES TO 79% - - IF YOU LIKE TO TAKE PART IN THE POLL, GO TO WFYI .org AND LOOK FOR THE POLL.

REPUBLICAN U.S.

SENATOR TODD YOUNG WON A DECISIVE REELECTION VICTORY THIS WEEK AS HE HAS BACK TO WASHINGTON FOR ANOTHER SIX YEARS.

>> AS YOU THINK PEOPLE ON ELECTION NIGHT, YOUNG TALKED ABOUT EARNING HOOSIERS TRUST OVER HIS NEXT TERM.

>> I AM GOING TO WORK TIRELESSLY OVER THE NEXT SIX YEARS TO ENSURE THAT I LIVE UP TO YOUR HIGH EXPECTATIONS .

TO ENSURE THAT WE YIELD THE SORT OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT YOU DESERVE.

NOT RHETORIC, BUT RESULTS.

>> YOUNG SAID HE IS READY TO FIGHT THE PRESENCE AGENDA WHEREVER NECESSARY , BUT ALSO STRESS THAT HE WILL WORK ACROSS PARTY LINES WHEN YOU CAN.

YOUNG'S DEMOCRATIC OPPONENT THOMAS MCDERMOTT NOTED BIPARTISANSHIP AND DEFEAT .

>> AND WHAT YOU ALSO KNOW THAT IT IS IMPERATIVE WE GET BEHIND SENATOR YOUNG AND SUPPORT HIM AND TRY TO MOVE AMERICA FORWARD.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY.

>> REPUBLICAN THAT HELD THE SEAT FOR MORE THAN A DECADE.

>> BARRING SOMETHING UNEXPECTED, YOUNG WILL SERVE IN THE SENATE FOR AT LEAST 12 YEARS NOW.

BY THE TIME HIS NEXT TERM IS DONE.

IS IT TIME FOR HIM ENOUGH TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS TODD YOUNG'S LEGACY?

>> I THINK HE IS ALREADY DOING THATTHE FACT THAT HE DID NOT GO WITH THE REST OF THE CRAZIES IN THIS CAUCUS TO NOT CERTIFY JOE BIDEN AS PRESIDENT WAS ONE STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.

THE SECOND BIG STEP IN THAT DIRECTION IS HIS EFFORT WITH THE BITING DEMONSTRATION TO PUT THAT CHIP MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN LAFAYETTE AREA.

THAT IS A VERY GOOD LEGACY AND A VERY IMPORTANT LEGACY FOR A MANUFACTURING SAY LIKE WE ARE.

THE FACT THAT HE WOULD WORK WITH JOE BIDEN SEEMS TO ME SHOWS THAT HE IS THINKING OF THAT, NOT OF THE NEXT REELECTION CAMPAIGN .

>> HIS LAST ADD IN THE SELECTION CYCLE IS PROMOTING THE CHIPS ACT.

WHICH HIS SENATE PARTNER VOTED AGAINST AND IS CRITICIZED HEAVILY.HE TALKED ABOUT BIPARTISANSHIP IN HIS ELECTION NIGHT SPEECH WHICH THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST DECLARE VICTORY AND THE TRUMPET WHICHEVER PARTY YOU SERVE IN.

HE SAID YES, I WILL OPPOSE THE BIDEN HARRIS AGENDA WHEREVER NECESSARY, BUT I WILL WANT TO WORK WITH THE OTHER SIDE WHEREVER I CAN DISTRICT IN THIS COUNTRY.

HE IS IN A DEEP RED STATE , IS ANYTHING PATH TO TAKE?

>> IS A VERY HOOSIER PATH TO TAKE.

OVER THE YEARS, BUT HAS BEEN A HALLMARK OF POPULAR STATESMAN LEVEL U.S.

SENATORS FROM INDIANA .

HE IS ALREADY REALLY STARTED THAT.

PART OF THE REASON HE WAS HAD NEVER A DOUBT OF REELECTION, HE IS TRY TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND IN THE MIDDLE.

WHEN TROUBLES IN THE OFFICE, HE WAS ALWAYS WITH TRUMP .

WHEN HE WASN'T COME HE EXPLAINED WHY AND HE DID NOT GET DESTROYED FOR IT.

HE WAS THOUGHTFUL AND OPEN ABOUT WHERE HE IS , WHETHER IT IS WORKING WITH THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ON THE CHIPS ACT .

ONE IS THAT WITH THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS, HE EXPLAINS WHY AND PEOPLE APPRECIATE THAT .

>> WHEN I TALKED TO TODD YOUNG BEFORE THE ELECTION AND ASKING THIS QUESTION ABOUT THINGS YET TAKEN HIS ANGER TO REPUBLICANS.

THE CHIPS ACT HAS DRAWN CRITICISM FROM REPUBLICANS.

HE WAS VERY GRATIFIED FOR THE POINT THAT HE WAS NOT CHALLENGED IN THE PRIMARY THIS YEAR.

IS THAT TELLING IN A STATE IT SEEMS FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE AT THIS POINT THAT THEY ARE REALLY SUPPORTING THIS GUY WHO WAS SAYING HEY, I WILL WORK WITH WHOEVER I CAN WORK WITH WHENEVER I CAN?

>> YES, IT IS REALLY INTERESTING.MOST OTHER CANDIDATES WE HAVE SEEN THEY'RE NOT ALL THE WAY WITH TRUMP WERE PRIMARY.IF THEY WERE TOO MUCH WITH TRUMP , THEY WERE HIT FROM THE LAST LEFT.YOUNG HAD NEITHER OF THOSE WHICH SHOWS A PATH FORWARD OF REPUBLICANS IN HERE IS HOW YOU CAN SUCCEED AND MAKE BOTH SIDES HAPPY.

THIS ENVIRONMENT WORKSHOP IS STILL VERY MUCH A FACTOR .

>> I SAID BARRING SOMETHING UNEXPECTED, WHICH IN MY MIND WAS WHAT HE WANTS TO RUN FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

IT FEELS LIKE HOW YOUNG IS WHERE HE WANTS TO BE .

>> I DON'T SENSE THAT HE WANTS A DIFFERENT ROUTE AT THIS POINT.

OBVIOUSLY HE IS STILL FINISHING UP HIS FIRST TERM SO TALKING LEGACY IS A LITTLE CRAZY, >> SIX YEARS AT A TIME.

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>> WE HAVE TO GIVE HIM SOME CREDIT, HE HAS FIGURED OUT HOW TO SPREAD THAT NEEDLE.IF YOU COULD TEACH THEM REST OF THE NATION HUNDREDTH READ THAT NEEDLE, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT POLITICAL WORLD .

>> A MAJORITY OF CANDIDATES WHO CAMPAIGNED ON SO-CALLED PARENTAL RIGHTS ONE SEAT ON SUBURBAN SCHOOL BOARDS NORTH OF INDIANAPOLIS THIS WEEK.

>> SCHOOL BOARDS IN INDIANA I MADE OF NONPARTISAN OFFICIALS, BUT CAMPAIGNED IN HAMILTON COUNTY'S FIGURE FEATURED NATIONAL - - HIGH-PROFILE POLITICIANS.

IN HAMILTON SALVATION, A SLATE OF ANTI-CRITICAL RACE THEORY CANDIDATES SUPPORTED BY CONSERVATIVE GROUPS 14 SEATS ON THE DISTRICT BOARD AND THREE CANDIDATES WITH DIFFERENT PLATFORMS - - PROVED LESS SUCCESSFUL FOR CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES, ONLY ONE OF THREE CANDIDATES ON A CONSERVATIVE SLATE ONE ASLEEP.

>> CAITLIN, ABUNDANCE, IDEOLOGY FEEL THAT THE SALE/SESSION.

NOT JUST THINK IT WILL COME BACK, BUT IS THERE FOCUS NOW GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL?

>> I THINK IT WAS A SMART FOCUS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY LOCAL COMMUNITIES THERE'S BEEN SOME ATTENTION ON THESE ISSUES, PANTING TO OF CARE ABOUT THESE ISSUESI DON'T THINK IT IS GOING AWAY AT A STATEHOUSE LEVEL , THIS IS AN ISSUE EVERY YEAR WE WILL SEE THOSE AT THE STATEHOUSE, BUT I THINK THIS STRATEGY OF FOCUSING ON MORE LOCALIZED GOVERNMENT MIGHT HELP THEM GET MORE OF A LEG UP IN THE STATEHOUSE AS WELL GOING FORWARD .

THE STATE LAWMAKERS WILL LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD .

>> AND DEAN WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

I THINK YOU WILL SEE MORE FOCUS ON MORE LOCAL SCHOOL ARRESTED IN THE FUTURE BUT IT IS DEFINITELY STILL MATTER IN THE STATEHOUSE IN 2023>> THERE ARE COUPLE OF HIS CANDIDATES IN THE FORT WAYNE AREA THE STATE LAWMAKER ENDORSED USING THE KITTY LITTER MYTH.

THEY BOTH LOST.

I FIND IT INTERESTING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOCAL DECISIONS IN THE THAT IS HAPPENING BUT IN THE END HE MENTIONED MONEY MONEY DID NOT COME LOCALLY, IT CAME FROM OUTSIDE TRYING TO PUSH THE TEAM HERE .

>> IS THAT PROBABLY WHY IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE, SOME OF THE BLEEDING THE SORT OF THING, GOING TO THE LOCAL SCHOOL BOARD LEVEL MAY MAKE THE MOST SINCE.

YOU WANT TO SPEND A TON OF MONEY COMPARATIVELY TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, RIGHT?

>> YES, THE PROBLEM IS PARTICULARLY THE SUBURBAN AREAS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRAWS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AND PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE THERE BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

IF THEY GET INTO THE KITTY LITTER DYNAMIC AND CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND ALL THE OTHER CRAZY IDEAS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN IMPACT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM , THOSE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, AND A VERY NEGATIVE WAY AND HOUSE PRICES.

IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO WITHOUT IRRITATING THE OTHER PARENTS IN THE AREA .

>> PART OF THE DEBATE AROUND A LOT WITH ISSUES OF THE STATEHOUSE HAS BEEN SHOULD BE MAKE SCHOOL BOARD RACES PARTISAN?

THERE'S A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AT THIS POINT, BUT DO THESE SORT OF SUCCESSES FROM THE SAME FOR THE PEOPLE MAKE PARTISAN SCHOOL WERE RACES MORE OR LESS LIKELY?

IS IT WE ARE WINNING, WILLING TO TAKE THE STEP?

OR WE WANT TO SOLIDIFY OUR CHANCES?

>> THAT IS A STEP LEGISLATORS NOT GOING TO TAKE AN IDENTITY SHOULD TAKE.

IT DID GET A VOTE IN THE LAST SESSION, GET A HEARING AND THAT WAS THE END OF IT.

WE WILL SEE.

WHAT I THINK IS MORE LIKELY THAT IF SOME OF THE SCHOOL BOARDS GET REALLY EXTREMISTS ARE MISSING .

THE POWER THE SCHOOL BOARDS HAS , I BET THEY START COMING IN AT WILL .

>> INTERESTING.

THE U.S. SUPREME COURT HEARD ORAL ARGUMENTS THIS WEEK ON A CASE CENTERED AROUND A NURSING HOME OWNED BY A MARION COUNTY AGENCY.

A RULING IN FAVOR OF THE AGENCY COULD STRIP MILLIONS OF MEDICAID BENEFICIARIES OF THE RIGHT TO SUE STATES.

WFYI REPORTS SOME LEGAL EXPERTS SAY THE COURT SEEMS UNLIKELY TO UNDO DECADES OF LEGAL PRECEDENT.

>> ATTORNEY PAUL GARCIA IN CALIFORNIA SAID HE TOOK A CAUTIOUS SIGH OF RELIEF AFTER HEARING THE ORAL ARGUMENTS .

>> THE REAL QUESTION BEFORE THE COURT WAS ARE THEY GOING TO ISSUE A NORMAL DECISION OR ARE THEY GOING TO DROP ANOTHER BOMB LIKE THE DOBBS DECISION ?

MY TAKE AWAY WAS THE COURT - - DROP ANOTHER BOMB .

>> ONE OF THE MOST TELLING MOMENT WAS WHEN CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS SUGGESTED LEGAL PRECEDENT SEEMED TO BE CLEAR ENOUGH .

>> THEY IMPOSE A PRETTY HIGH BAR IN TERMS OF THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS REQUIRED .

WHY ISN'T THAT SUFFICIENT?

>> INJUSTICES APPEAR RECEPTIVE TO HEAR ARGUMENTS THAT NURSING HOME RESIDENTS AND GOVERNMENT FACILITIES MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS TO SUE STATE AND FEDERAL COURTS.

A DECISION ON THE CASE MAY COME AS LATE AS LATE JUNE.

>> LEGAL EXPERT - - YEARS OF WAR DECADES OF LEGAL PRECEDENT.

>> I WAS THE BEER FROM THE PRESIDENT ALONE IS NO LONGER GOING TO GUIDE THEIR DECISIONS.

SO NO, YOU CANNOT SAY THAT.

I DO THINK THERE IS PROBABLY AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE FOR NARROWING ANY RULING , BUT YOU DO WHAT THEY CONSIDER THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IN A CASE LIKE THIS.

IF SOMEONE IS ABUSED OR MISTREATED AND ARE A PRIVATE PAY PERSON IN A MARION COUNTY NURSING HOME, BUT ON A MEDICAID IS NOT ABUSED OR MISTREATED IN THE SAME NURSING HOME, HOW CAN ONE HAS MORE LEGAL RIGHTS THAN THE OTHER?

THAT IS A DECISION THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH?

>> ASIDE FROM THE POLICY IMPACT THAT THIS CASE COULD HAVE, IT IS GOTTEN VERY MESSY HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

YOU HAVE LOCAL POLITICIANS WERE DECRYING THE FACT THAT THIS LAWSUIT WAS BROUGHT, THERE WAS A RESOLUTION LOCALLY TO WITHDRAW THE CASE BUT THE AGENCY IS NOT SPARED THIS IS A MESS ALL AROUND, ISN'T IT?

>> YES AND IT IS A WEIRD ONE.

FOR ONCE, YOU HAVE A DEMOCRAT LEAD AGENCY IN MARION COUNTY TEAMING UP WITH A REPUBLICAN , THAT IS WEIRD .

THAT IS NOT USUALLY HAPPEN.

YOU HAVE THOSE DYNAMICS.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPARE THIS CASE TO , IT IS KIND OF LIKE THE DOBBS OF THE JACKSON OF THIS TYPE OF POLICY.

THAT IS HOW IMPACTFUL IT IS GOING TO BE.

IT'S A VERY CONTENTIOUS ONE.

>> ON A POLICY LEVEL, PRODUCING THE SUPREME COURT AT THIS POINT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BIT OF A FOOL'S GAME, BUT IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE A BAD IDEA NOW.

DO YOU ALMOST THOSE ARE PREPARING FOR WHAT YOU DO IN CASE ?

YOU'RE ASKING CONGRESS TO DO SOMETHING NOW WHICH SEEMS LIKE A BAD IDEA, RIGHT?

>> THAT WAS HIS PERSPECTIVE.

CONGRESS TO CLARIFY THIS AND HELP STATES UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE TAKING ON WHEN THE FEDS DESIGNED THESE PROGRAMS AND FUND THESE PROGRAMS AND THE FEDS HAVE TO GRANT PERMISSION TO ADVENTURE THE PROGRAMS.

THEN, YOU WERE GETTING SUED IN THE PROCESS OF THAT.

CONVERSELY TO CLARIFY THAT AND WITH THE RULES ARE AND THRESHOLD IS.

IT SEEMED LIKE IT COULD BE PRETTY FAR-REACHING.

I AGREE WITH NIKKI THAT THE SUPREME COURT WILL NOT LET PRECEDENT STAND ON ITS OWN NECESSARILY , BUT IT HAS.

WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF HIGH-PROFILE CASES WHERE THE OVERTURNED OBVIOUSLY ABORTION AND ONE OTHER, BUT THEY HAVE COMMENTED AND FOR EXAMPLE, DOCUMENT RETENTION BY FORMER PRESIDENTS.

THEY HAVE, AND THAT IS GOING ALONG WITH WHATEVER YU THINK DONALD TRUMP MIGHT WANT OR PUBLICANS MIGHT WANT OR ITS PRESIDENTS IS CHAOS .

>> IT SEEMS AGAIN, PUTTING THE SUPREME COURT HAS NEVER BEEN A GOOD IDEA , BUT IT SEEMS INCREASINGLY HARD TO PREDICT BECAUSE IN THE ONE-HANDED OR SOMETHING LIKE DOBBS WITH IT THROUGHOUT FOR THE FIRST TIME REPEALED A RIGHT.

GRANTED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY DO THINGS THAT WOULD SEEM TO DUMBFOUND YOU.

THE CASE THAT MY PRODUCT .

IT IS INCREASINGLY LIKE I GUESS YOU WILL JUST WAIT TO FIND OUT AGAIN IF THINGS UP AND TURNED TO CHAOS?

>> THE TRUMP DOCUMENTS , IT WAS A NARROW FOCUS AND WOULD BE HARD TO DEFEND IF THEY WENT THE OTHER WAY AND IT IS NOT THE KIND OF IMPACT .

I THINK THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL OF DEPRIVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OF OUR LEGAL RIGHT.YES, THEY NEED GUIDANCE, WHAT THE GUIDE IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE IN YOUR CARE , YOU CANNOT ABUSE THEM, YOU HAVE TO TREAT THEM, THAT IS PRETTY STANDARD.

THEY ARE ACCEPTING THE BODY FOR THIS .

THE AUDIT PROVIDE THE CARE AND TAKING THE RIGHT TO SUE AWAY FROM THEM IT SEEMS TO ME IS SOMETHING THAT I AM AFRAID THE SUPREME COURT COULD DO .

I THINK IT IS THE WRONG DECISION .

>> IS INCREASINGLY SHOWING US THAT THERE IS A LOT OF RIGHTS OR POLICIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN RELYING ON SUPREME COURT SOLELY TO PROVIDE FOR US FOR QUITE A LONG TIME NOW .

>> EXCEPT IN THIS CASE, WE ARE NOT RELYING ON THE COURT TO PROVIDE IT.

THERE IS AN ACTUAL LAW CALLED SECTION 1983, IT IS A POST-CIVIL WAR LAW AND HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR THAT LONG.

THEY ARE TRYING TO INTERPRET ITS SCOPE.

THAT IS A LOT THE BASE OF THE ARGUMENT .

>> MAYBE WE SHOULD ISSUE GUNS TO EVERYONE IN THE NURSING HOMES SO THEY COULD SHOOT PEOPLE AND DEFEND THAT WAY .

THAT IS THE ONLY RIGHT THEY REALLY WANT TO PROTECT , SOMEBODY'S RIGHT TO CARRY A GUN .

>> FINALLY, TOWNSHIP TRUSTEE IN DELAWARE COUNTY INDIANA CLEARLY WON REELECTION THIS YEAR DESPITE NOT FILING TO RUN.

THAT IS BECAUSE OF AN ERROR IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE THAT ACCIDENTALLY PUT HER ON THE BALLOT.

SHE WAS REMOVED AFTER EARLY VOTERS ALERTED THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO THE MISTAKE, BUT SHE STILL RECEIVED 32 VOTES.

MANY OF THE UNOPPOSED WINNER OF THE TRUSTEE VOTE ONLY GOT 95% OF THE TOTAL VOTES.

MIKE O'BRIEN, IS THIS A PREVIOUSLY UNIMAGINABLE SITUATION?

WHAT SHE SHOULD'VE STAYED ON, SHE WOULD HAVE ONE .

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>> YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO RESIGN, IT WAS A WHOLE PROCESS.

IT WAS DISTANT, SICK TO THE EXTREME .

>> THESE THINGS ARE DONE BY PEOPLEPEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES AND IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THIS IS MASSIVE CONSPIRACY OUT THERE , JUST PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE .

>> THAT IS NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY NARRATIVE DESPITE VOTING PROBLEMS IN ARIZONA.

PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING THE OUTCOME .

>> SO MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE RUNNING TOO.

>> THAT IS INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW FOR THIS WEEK.

OUR PANEL IS DEMOCRAT AND DELANEY, REPUBLICAN MIKE O'BRIEN, CAITLIN LANGE OF THE INDIANAPOLIS STAR AND NIKKI KELLY OF THE INDIANA CAPITAL CHRONICLE.

YOU CAN FIND INDIANA WEEK IN REVIEW'S PODCASTS AND EPISODES AT WFYI .org OR ON THE PBS VIDEO APP .

I AM RANDY SMITH OF INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING.

JOIN US NEXT TIME, BECAUSE A LOT CAN HAPPEN IN AN INDIANA WEEK.

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