WELCOME TO "KENTUCKY TONIGHT."

I'M RENEE SHAW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

THE KENTUCKY PRIMARY IS TWO WEEKS FROM TOMORROW.

TONIGHT WE CONTINUE OUR SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR THE U.S. HOUSE AND LATER IN THIS HOUR YOU WILL HEA FROM E. LEE WATTS, A REPUBLICAN RUNNING IN THE 2ND CONGRESSIONA DISTRICT, AND CLAIRE WIRTH, A REPUBLICAN IN THE 4TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

WE BEGIN WITH CHARLES BOOKER, ONE OF FOUR DEMOCRATS RUNNING IN THE U.S. SENATE RACE.

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MR. BOOKER WITH, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING.

>> OF COURSE.

IT'S AN HONOR.

>> YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE SO WE'LL FOREGO A FORMAL INTRODUCTION UNLESS UP WITH TO GIVE ONE BUT YOU DO WANT TO GO RIGHT OFF THE BAT AND ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR PRIORITIES IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AND IF YOU WERE ELECTED, IF YOU WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION AND GO ON TO FACE OFF WITH SENATOR RAND PAUL AND THEN BE SENT TO WASHINGTON, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH?

>> SO FIRST OF ALL, MY PRIORITY IN THIS CAMPAIGN IS REALLY MY PRIORITY AS A KENTUCKIAN.

IT'S REGULAR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IGNORED, FORGOTTEN ABOUT, PEOPLE THAT ARE THIRSTY AND DYING FOR REAL CHANGE, PEOPLE THAT ARE DESPERATE FOR A BRIGHTER FUTURE, AND MY FOCUS IN THIS CAMPAIGN IS REALLY ABOUT HOW DO WE END POVERTY.

REALIZING THE KENTUCKY NEW DEAL, WHICH IS MY VISION OF LIFE, FREEDOM AND PROSPERITY FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US AND MAKING SURE THAT NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN IN COMMONWEALTH, FROM THE ROAD TO THE HOLLER AND EVERYWHERE IN BETWEEN, YOU CAN LIVE A GAINFUL LIFE.

YOU CAN BE SAFE.

YOU CAN BE HEALTHY.

AND WE WILL BE GRANDPA, SO WE'LL START THERE.

AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT I'M BUILDING A COALITION ACROSS KENTUCKY OF PEOPLE FROM ALL ENDS OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT PARTY.

THIS IS ABOUT US STANDING AS FAMILY.

I AM GOING TO BE FIGHTING TO PROTECT OUR PURSUIT OF DEMOCRACY.

I WANT US TO INVEST IN PEOPLE FOR A CHANGE AND INVEST IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN A WAY THAT CAN MAKE SURE THAT NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN THIS COMMONWEALTH, YOU HAVE A PATHWAY TO PROSPERITY.

WE CAN DO ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW BY EXPANDING THE MAJOR IN THE SENATE AND GETTING SOMEONE LIKE RAND PAUL AS FAR AWAY FROM IT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

>> SO SPEAKING OF RAND PAUL, LET'S TALK ABOUT FUNDRAISING WHICH IS ALSO A BIG ELEMENT IN THESE RACES.

TOMATO CONTRIBUTION YOU HAVE SO FAR EXCEED $3 MILLION.

YOU HAD ABOUT 527 CASH ON HAND AT THE END OF MARCH.

RAND PAUL, SENATOR RAND PAUL'S TOTAL CONTRIBUTION TOP $17 MILLION.

WHY ARE YOU STILL CONVINCED THAT YOU CAN MAKE HISTORY IN NOVEMBER?

>> SO IN HEAVEN, A LITTLE OVER HALF A MILL CASH ON HAND IS SOMETHING I THINK BACK THROUGH ON THE NO ONLY MY JOURNEY COMING FROM THE POOR ZIP CODE IN KENTUCKY BUT EVEN IN THE LAST CYCLE.

I WAS OUTSPENT IN THE PREVIOUS RACE OVER 40-TO-ONE AND WHAT I HAVE MADE CLEAR IS IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VISION.

IF YOU CAN'T INSPIRE PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THINGS CAN BE DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE THAT VISION.

WE HAVE THE FIRE OF OVER 20,000 VOLUNTEERS.

BUT I'M PROUD TO SAY EVEN WITH OUT A LOT OF NATIONAL SUPPORT, WITHOUT PARTY SUPPORT, AT THE STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL WE'RE BUILDING A GRASSROOTS PEOPLE-POWERED CAMPAIGN THAT IS FUNDED IN LARGE DEGREE BY THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY.

WE ARE NOT FOR SALE.

AND I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE BIG MONEY BECAUSE THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE HAVE PEOPLE IN PIKEVILLE, IN PADUCAH, IN NORTHERN KENTUCKY, DOWN IN WARREN COUNTY, FOLKS THAT ARE ORGANIZING THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN POLITICS BEFORE.

PEOPLE WHO HAD A MAGA HAT THAT NOW HAVE A BOOKER HAT.

PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING THE CHANCE, KENTUCKIANS THAT ARE TAKING A CHANCE ON OUR FUTURE, AND WE'RE BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE TO WIN THIS RACE AND TO KEEP I IN YEARS TO COME.

>> SO YOUR REFERENCE TO THE MAGA HAT WEARERS, THOSE ARE FOLKS TO SUPPORT FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND THE MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN SLOGAN.

SO TALK TO US ABOUT WERE WHY DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE IN YOUR EXAMPLE WHAT IS IT YOU'RE TELLING THEM THAT YOU WILL DO FOR THEM?

>> WELL, AT THE END OF THE DAY DONALD TRUMP SPOKE TO SOME REALITIES THAT WE CANNOT IGNORE.

WHEN HE SAID THAT THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN, FOR A LOT OF US ACROSS KENTUCKY, PEOPLE LIKE, YEAH, IT IS.

WHEN HE SAID YOU'RE GETTING SCREWED, YOU'RE BEING LEFT BEHIND, A LOT OF FOLKS WERE LIKE, YEAH, I AM.

NOW, WHEN HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER, HE WAS EXPLOITING FEARS.

HE WAS WEAPONIZING PAIN.

HE NEVER INTENDED TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE PEOPLE HAVE KENTUCKY ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO FIGHT FOR THEM.

IF YOU ROOK AT THE THAT.

IN PREVIOUS ELECTIONS, A LOT OF PEOPLE VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP, VOTED FOR BENDERS.

THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE.

IT'S MORE ACTUALLY WHO IS GOING TO STAND AND UP FIGHT FOR ME.

WHO IS GOING TO FIGHT AGAINST THE STATUS QUO.

EM POO LIKE RAND PAUL THAT HAVE RAN ON SHAKING UP THE ESTABLISHMENT, FIGHTING THE ESTABLISHMENT, HAVE REALLY PROVEN TO BE SELL-OUTS ALL ALONG.

SO WHAT I AM DOING IS LIFTING UP A MESSAGE THAT IS ABOUT THE REAL CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THEM, I'VE EXPERIENCED RATIONING MY INSULIN TO TAKE TARE CARE OF MY DAUGHTERS.

I'VE SEEN JOBS LEAVE OUR COMMUNITY AND NEVER COME BACK.

IF WE SPEAK TO THE CHALLENGES PEOPLE FACE WE'LL BE FIND A COALITION THAT'S READY TO FIGHT BACK BECAUSE WE'RE TIRED OF SEEING KENTUCKY BE AT THE BOTTOM IN PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING.

>> IN 2020 WHEN YOU SOUGHT THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR U.S. SENATE THEN, YOU EXPERIENCED A LATE SURGE, AND YOU WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL BUT YOU EXPERIENCED A LATE SURGE, PROBABLY THAT A LARGE PART DUE TO THE PUBLIC RESPONSE TO THE INVOLVED KILLINGS OF GEORGE FLOYD AND BROLIN BREONNA TAYLOR.

SINCE THAT TIME THE FERVOR AROUND SOCIAL AND ARABIA JUSTICE MAY NOT BE TO THE EXTENT IT WAS IN 2020.

HAS THE DISCONNECTION PERHAPS TO THAT ISSUE COST YOU SOME SUPPORT OR ENTHUSIASM IN THE LAST YEAR?

>> NOT AT ALL.

IN FACT, OUR SUPPORT HAS ONLY I DON'T KNOW.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THERE MAY BE MOMENTS IN TIME WHEN WE PAY ATTENTION TO THE MOVEMENT WHEN WE SEE IT, AND IN THAT MOMENT WHEN BREONNA'S DOOR WAS BUSTED DOWN AND HER LIFE WAS TAKEN FROM US, THE COMMONWEALTH STOOD UP AND WE SAW PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS LIFE STAYING THIS WE NEED JUSTICE.

NOW THE COUNTRY SAW THAT AND THEN NECESSITY SAW MY CANDIDACY BUT THAT WAS NOT WHEN THE WORK STARTED.

THING ON THAT WE'VE BEEN DOIN', I'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS AT EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT STATEWIDE, THE RELATIONSHIPS WE'VE BUILT, THE COALITIONS WE BUILT, THAT WASN'T JUST WHEN THE CAMERAS WERE THERE.

AND SO NOW TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE HAVE OVER 20,000 VOLUNTEERS, WE HAVE PEOPLE IN EVERY COUNTY THAT ARE TRAINING AND ORGANIZING, WE ARE DOING THE WORK.

WE ARE BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WHETHER OR NOT THE NATIONAL NEWS IS FOLLOWING THIS BECAUSE THIS ISN'T THE PART THAT'S ATTRACTIVE.

THE HARD WORK IS NOT WHAT YOU OVEN HERE ABOUT, BUT THIS IS HOW YOU WIN.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN WE HAVE BEATEN RAND PAUL AND WE ARE BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT MITCH McCONNELL IS NOT SCREWING US ANYMORE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL ASK, HOW DID YOU DO IT?

WE SHOWED UP.

WE WENT TO THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN ABOUT.

AND WE FOCUSED ON THE REAL ISSUES AND WE FOCUSED ON THE KENTUCKY NEW DEAL, AND I'M PROUD OF?

SO YOU NEXTED THE SENATE MINORITY LEADER MICHIGAN MOM.

IF YOU WERE TO END SEAT RAND PAUL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH HIM.

WOULD YOU FIND WAYS TO BUILD COALITIONS AND AGREEMENT WITH HIM?

>> SO THE BETTER WAY TO PHRASE THAT WOULD BE HE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH ME, AND, YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT PARTY FOR ME.

THIS IS ABOUT DOING THE WORK.

AND I'VE PROVEN THAT.

WHEN I WENT TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE, I REPUBLICAN HAD A SUPER MAJOR IN BOTH CHAMBERS AND I WAS STILL ABLE TO WORK IN A BIPARTISAN WAY TO GET LEGISLATION PASSED, NAMELY AROUND HEALTH CARE ACCESS AND SPECIFICALLY FOR DIABETES.

AND I OFTEN SHARED THIS STORY BECAUSE EVEN IN THE TIMES OF THE HEIGHTENED DIVISION AND DYSFUNCTION, WE CAN STILL BUILD COALITIONS BECAUSE OUR COMMON BONDS ARE SO MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT DRIVES US APART.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT ENERGY, THAT VISION TO WASHINGTON, AND RAND PAUL WITH HIM OUT OF THE WAY, FOCUSING ON MITCH McCONNELL, UNDERSTANDING THAT, LOOK, HE'S A POLITICS, HE IS A CONSUMMATE POLITICS POLITICIAN AND HE WILL UNDERSTAND THE TEA LEAVES.

WE'RE BUILDINGS A MOVEMENT THAT IS UNABLE TO DENY.

WE HAVE MADE OURSELVES INEVITABLE.

AND HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH US OR WE'RE GOING TO MOVE HIM OUT OF THE WAY, TOO, AND WE'LL DO THAT.

>> YOU HAVE OFTEN TALKED ABOUT THE PLAYBOOK OF GEORGIA, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOVEMENT OF GEORGIA, BUT KÀ KENTUCKY JA.

THE DEMOGRAPHIC COMPOSITION IS VASTLY DIFFERENT FROM GEORGIA.

HOW DO YOU THINK YOU CAN PULL OFF A GEORGIA-LIKE VICTORY IN KENTUCKY?

>> WHEN I MENTION GEORGIA, IT'S NOT TO REFERENCE TO SAYING THAT WE ARE SIMILAR.

I'M SPEAKING TO THE POWER OF BUILDING COMMUNITY.

THE POWER OF STEPPING OUT OF OUR COMFORT ZONES, UNDERSTANDING OUR COMMON BONDS AND ORGANIZING.

THAT IS TRIED AND TRUE.

IT DIDN'T START IN GEORGIA.

SO IN A LOTT WAYS WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ADDING PASSAGE TO THAT PLAYBOOK THAT CITY'S ABRAM ADDED CHAPTERS TO.

WE ARE SIMPLY SHOWING WHEN YOU LISTEN TO PEOPLE, MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE, TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH, NOT THESE THANKS DRIVING US APART BUT WHAT FOLKS ARE FACING WHEN THEY'RE SITTING DOWN AT THE TABLE WHEN THEY FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHURN AND KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, YOU WILL DO THAT WORK, YOU'LL FIND COALITIONS AND YOU'LL WIN RACES.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WEDGES, WHAT ISSUES DO YOU CONSIDER TO BE WEDGE ISSUES THAT ARE DIVIDING THE COUNTRY?

AND YOUR WORDS ARE NOT UNIFYING?

>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT IS BEING USED AS A WEDGE RIGHT NOW IN KENTUCKY BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS ABORTION.

AND OFTENTIMES WHEN THE ISSUE IS BROUGHT UP, AND I KNOW THIS IS A VERY TENSE, VERY PERSONAL ISSUE, I RESPECT THAT, BUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS POLITICIANS LIKE RAND PAUL AND MITCH McCONNELL AND SEVERAL OTHERS WHO WILL STOKE HATRED, WHO WILL PUSH FOR DIVIDES, AND IT'S AT THE EXPENSE OF NOT ONLY THE AGENCY AND HUMANITY WOMEN ACROSS KENTUCKY BUT IT'S ABOUT ATTACKING HEALTH CARE AND ATTACKING ACCESS TO MEDICALLY NECESSARY PROCEDURES THAT SO MANY KENTUCKIANS DESPERATELY NEED.

AND BY LIFTING UP THE STORIES OF SO MANY REGULAR FOLKS FROM THE HOOD TO THE HOLLER THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED NOT HAVING THE CARE THAT THEY NEED, SO MANY WOMEN THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH PREGNANCY AND NOT HAD THE SUPPORT AND THE TREATMENT THEY NEED BUT ALSO THE PAINFUL STORIES.

I HAD ONE OF MY FORMER COLLEAGUES IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE STAND UP ON THE HOUSE FLOOR AND SHARE HER STORY OF BEING RAPED AND EXPLAINING THAT THESE ISSUES ARE NOT JUST WEDGES.

THEY ARE AFFECTING SO MANY OF OUR LOVED ONES, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY.

AND BY BEING THE ADULT IN THE ROOM AND NOT SUCCUMBING TO THE HATE AND THE FEAR AND A LOT OF THE RACISM THAT GETS WEAPONIZED, WEIR BUILDING A COALITION THAT IS IS NOT PARTISAN BECAUSE EVEN ON THE ISSUE OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD, WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF MEN GET NECESSARY HEALTH CARE FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

WE KNOW A LOT OF RURAL COMMUNITIES WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO OB/GYNs ARE GETTING THE CARE THAT THEY NEED.

SO WE HAVE TO STAND UP FOR HUMANITY AND FOR OUR FAMILIES AND FOR HEALTH CARE, AND I WILL DO THAT.

>> DURING THE LAST WANING DAYS OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN FRANKFORT, YOU WERE AT THE STATE CAPITOL IN PROTEST OF THE OMNIBUS ANTI-ABORTION MEASURE HOUSE BILL 3.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ABORTION SHOULD REMAIN LEGAL?

AND HOW LATE IN A WOMAN'S PREGNANCY DO YOU SUPPORT LEGAL PROTECTIONS FOR ABORTION?

>> SO I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT ROE V. WADE SHOULD BE CODIFIED.

I BELIEVE THAT THE AGENCY AND THE RIGHTS OF WOMEN ALL ACROSS KENTUCKY CANNOT BE DISREGARDED.

I BELIEVE WE ALL NEED QUALITY HEALTH CARE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I'M PUSHING FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE IT IS A RIGHT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT CAN DRIVE A LOT OF PEOPLE APART, AND I DO RESPECT THAT, BUT WE NEED LEADERS THAT WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH.

AND ONE THING I UNDERSTAND IS WE SHOULD NOT HAVE POLITICIANS OR THE GOVERNMENT IN THE BEDROOM TRYING TO MANDATE PREGNANCY OR FORCE KENTUCKIANS TO MAKE THESE DEEPLY PERSONAL AND OFTENTIMES LIFE-THREATENING DECISIONS.

AND I RESPECT THE FACT THAT SO MANY FAMILIES ACROSS KENTUCKY OF ALL ENDS OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM ARE SAYING ENOUGH OF THE NOISE, ENOUGH OF THE DYSFUNCTION, ENOUGH OF THE MISINFORMATION, AND THAT'S WHY I'M STANDING FOR THE RIGHTS OF KENTUCKY FAMILIES AND WOMEN.

>> YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU ARE A PROPONENT OF MEDICARE FOR ALL, PART OF THE KENTUCKY NEW DEAL THAT YOU HAVE TOUTED.

UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.

YOU'RE STILL FOR THAT.

TELL THE VIEWERS AND VOTERS WHY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

SO UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN SUPPORTING FOR YEARS, AND IT GOES BACK TO ONE OF THE TENETS THAT DR. KING SPOKE ABOUT DURING THE MOVEMENT FOR CIVIL RIGHTS ABOUT FINANCIAL FREEDOM.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN ECONOMY THAT IS BUILT ON OUR BACKS, BUT THE PROFITS GO TO THESE BIG CORPORATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTINUOUSLY EXPLOITING AND ROBBING US, LEAVING US STRANDED ON THE TRACKS, LITERALLY.

SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS WE NEED AN EQUITY STAKE IN THE ECONOMY THAT WE'VE BUILT, NOT REGRESSIVE TAX BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY GET THE DIVIDENDS FROM ALL OF THE VALUE WE PRODUCE IN THIS ECONOMY.

A UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME IS A WAY TO DO THAT.

AND IT RALLY IS UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR HUMANITY CANNOT SIMPLY BE TIED TO AN HOURLY WAGE.

REGULAR PEOPLE HAVE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK, AND I'M ASKING THE PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY TO JOIN ME IN FIGHTING FOR OUR FUTURE, PUTTING THE POLITICS ASIDE, AND LET'S WIN THE KENTUCKY NEW DEAL TOGETHER.

>> WHAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF FOR A UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME THAT YOU WOULD PROPOSE?

>> WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL AMOUNTS DISCUSSED, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE WE CAN HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DELIVER THIS.

I HAVE OFTEN SUPPORTED AN AMOUNT AROUND $2,000 A MONTH, UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT COSTS TO AFFORD TO LIVE.

BASIC NECESSITIES, TAKING CARE OF OUR CHILDREN.

I ALSO SPOTTER UNIVERSAL PRE-K FOR A VERY SIMILAR REASON.

I'M SPEAKING TO THE ISSUES THAT FAMILIES ARE DEALING WITH INTRODUCE KENTUCKY.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS HERE WE NEED SOMEONE IN THE SENATE THAT IS GOING TO SEE US AND HEAR US AND NOT FIGHT US OR BLOCK ANY INVESTMENTS IN KENTUCKY THAT WE NEED.

RAN PAUL HAS BUILT A CAREER ON BLOCKING RELIEF, BLOCKING INVESTMENTS IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

HE OPPOSED THE SAME RELIEF FOR THE TORNADO THAT HIT US THAT HE WAS ASKING THE PRESIDENT TO PUT IN PLACE.

HE'S NOT SUPPORTING US AND HE DOESN'T SEE US.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT POLICE REFORM.

WE KNOW THERE WERE ONCE PROMISING NEGOTIATIONS ON POLICE REFORM LAST FALL.

REPUBLICAN SENATOR TIM SCOTT WORK WITH DEMOCRATIC CARRY BOOKER AND KAREN BASS.

THERE WAS A STALL-OUT.

THE HOUSE DID PASS THE GEORGE FLOYD JUSTICE IN POLICING AC IN MARCH OF 2021.

HOW HIGH OF A PRIORITY IS LAW ENFORCEMENT REFORM, IN YOUR VIEW, AND WHAT SHOULD THE BASIC TEMPERATURES A AM FROM BE THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT?

>> SO COMMUNITY SAFETY IS CENTRAL FOR ME.

AND I SAY THIS AS A FATHER WITH THREE YOUNG GIRLS.

I SAY IT AS A KENTUCKIAN WHO CARES ABOUT MY FEEL.

THE PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY ARE MY FAMILY.

I ALSO SAY THIS IN SUPPORT OF OUR FIRST RESPONDER.

THOSE WHO COME AND PROVIDE CARE AND RELIEF AND PROTECTION FOR US IN THOSE TIMES OF EMERGENCY, AND THAT INCLUDES OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, WOMEN AND MEN WHO STAND UP VALIANTLY ALL ACROSS KENTUCKY FOR US, AND LISTENING TO THEM, KNOWING THAT WE CANNOT ARREST OUR WAY TO A SAFER SOCIETY.

WE CANNOT ASK POLICE TO BE ALL THINGS COMMUNITY SAFETY.

WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK.

WE HAVE TO INVEST IN POVERTY.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITIES CAN THRIVE AND HAVE LOCAL ECONOMIES WHERE MONEY IS CIRCULATING AND PEOPLE HAVE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT HEALTH CARE IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HAVE.

>> DOES THAT MEAN DEFUNDING THE POLICE?

>> IT MEANS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN ALL THING COMMUNITY SAFETY.

>> BY SUBTRACTING FUNDING TO THE POLICE?

>> WELL, WE CANNOT HAVE EVERGREEN MILITARIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND A LOT OF MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM KNOW THAT.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT AFFECTING PENSIONS.

I'VE STOOD UP TO PROTECT PENSIONS IN FRANKFORT.

I WOULD DO THAT IN WASHINGTON.

SO WE HAVE TO UNPACK WHAT'S BEEN WEAPONIZED AND WHAT IS BEING USED BECAUSE RAND PAUL'S BIGGEST TALKING POINT IS DID BEFUNDING THE POLICE BUT HE HAS BEEN OPPOSING INVESTMENTS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, WHICH MEANS HE'S TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM THE POLICE SO WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE DEFUNDING?

AND THE REALITY HERE IS WE CANNOT IGNORE THE FACT THAT ACROSS MOST INDICES THAT WOULD DETERMINE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE KENTUCKY IS AT THE BOTTOM, AND THE OPIOID CRISIS HAS CRUSHED SO MANY PEOPLE.

WE CAN'T JUST THROW FAMILIES AWAY.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

>> IN 45 SECOND IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT YOUR PROPOSAL FOR REPARATIONS ON FEBRUARY 1st YOU TWEETED, REPARATIONS, THAT'S THE TWEET.

WHEN ASKED ABOUT THIS, YOU'RE VIEW ON REPARATIONS FOR SLAVERY, A PEERED TO LIKEN IT TO COAL AND TOBACCO INDUSTRIES.

CAN YOU BRIEFLY EXPLAIN.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I BELIEVE THAT THE GOVERNMENT WE PAY FOR HAS AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ALL LIVE A GAINFUL LIFE, AND WHEN INJUSTICES HAVE HAPPENED AT THE HAND OF THE GOVERNMENT WE NEED LEADERSAL WHO WILL MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE REMEDIES AND RESTITUTION.

AND THAT SIMPLY IS THE ARGUMENT.

IT HAS BEEN WEAPON I'D.

PEOPLE LIKE RAND PAUL HAVE PUT DOIN' THE DOG WHISTLE AND PICKED UP A BULLHORN AND HE'S CALLED ME A RACIAL LEFT CANDIDATE.

THEY ARE MAKING THIS A HEATED DEBATE AND REALLY USING RACISM AS A WEDGE, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT'S ABOUT JUSTICE, AND THE REASON I MANAGING COAL SEVERANCE FUNDING WITH THE REASON I MENTION TOBACCO SETTLEMENT FUNDING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST LEADERS IN GOVERNMENT WHO HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN INJUSTICES HAPPEN, WE DO RIGHT BY OUR PEOPLE.

NOW, MY ANCESTORS WERE ENSLAVED SLAVED IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY.

MY GRANDDAD FOUGHT FOR DESEGREGATION.

THIS WAS A TIME WHEN THERE WERE A WHOLE COMMUNITIES OF FOLKS WHO WERE FORCED TO WORK FOR FREE, WHO WOULD ACCEPT THAT?

SO THE IDEA THAT RACISM IS BEING PERPETUATED IS NOT A MYTH.

IT IS A I REALITY.

AND WE NEED TO HEAL TOGETHER ALL ACROSS KENTUCKY, NOT ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE IN THEIR CORNERS BUT ABOUT STANDING AS FAMILY TO DO RIGHT.

AND OUR GOVERNMENT HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND IT SHOULD.

>> IN TEN SECONDS, ARE YOU TOO PROGRESSIVE FOR THE VOTERS OF KENTUCKY?

TEN SECOND.

>> GRANDPA IS TOO RADIAL CAL FOR THE PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY.

I AM LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY AND THAT'S WHY I'M RUNNING AND THAT'S WERE WE'RE QUESTIONING TO WIN THIS RACE AND I'M ASKING EVERYONE TO GO TO CHARLESBOOKER.ORG AND HELP US DO IT.

>> THANK YOU MEMBER MR. CHARLES BOOKER.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK THE OAKLAND 6 DISTRICT CANDIDATE E. LEE WATTS.

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MR. WATTS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> I'LL GIVE A FEW MOMENTS TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY AND THE FOLKS THE 2ND CONGRESSIONALLAL DISTRICT.

>> WELL, MY NAME IS LEE WATTS.

I GREW UP IN BOWLING GREEN, KENTUCKY, WENT TO SCHOOL THERE, COLLEGE, WAS MARRIED THERE.

THEN I JOINED THE U.S. MILITARY WHICH SHIPPED MEAL ALL ACROSS THE WORLD INCLUDING A COMBAT TOUR IN IRAQ.

END CAME HOME TO KENTUCKYER WHEN I HAVE NOW SERVED FOR 13 YEARS AS THE VOLUNTEER CHAPLAIN TO THE KENTUCKY STATE CAPITOL.

SO WHEN I LOOK BACK, MY HOME DISTRICT, BOWLING GREEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY HOMETOWN, ALWAYS WILL BE, AND I WANTED THEM TO HAVE A CONSERVATIVE VOICE THAT STOOD WITH THEIR PRINCIPLES AND THAT'S WHY I'M RUNNING FOR CONGRESS.

>> AS YOU MENTIONED, MR. WATTS, YOU SERVED AS A CHAPLAIN IN THE STATE CAPITOL FOR THIRTEEN YEARS AND SOME PEOPLE MAY SAY BECAUSE YOU HAVE I DO NOT WATCHED THAT CROSSES AND SEEN BILLS BEING DEBATED AND PASSED, WHY NOT RUN FOR A STATE LEGISLATIVE RACE AND MAKE THE FIRST ONE A CONGRESSIONAL SEAT?

>> WELL, THE FIRST AND MOST DIRECT ANSWER IS I PRAYED ABOUT IT.

AND THIS IS WHAT THE LORD DIRECTLY PUT ON MY HEART.

BUT I THINK WORKING IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND WATCHING HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF BILLS AS THEY'VE BEEN INTRODUCED AND DEBATED ON THE FLOOR HAS GIVEN ME A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE IN WHY THINGS GET DONE IN GOVERNMENT OR WHY THEY DON'T GET DONE IN GOVERNMENT.

>> OR SOME THEY WOULD SAY THAT YOU'VE A OBSERVER OF IT BUT NOT A PARTICIPANT IN IT.

DO YOU I YOU THIS YOU KNOW ENOUGH TO GO TO WASHINGTON, SIR?

>> BASED ON HOW I HAVE STUDIED THE CONSTITUTION, I HAVE TAUGHT THAT IN CLASSES FOR YEARS IN LITERAL CLASSES, AND THEN AROUND THE STATE AS WELL, THAT IS WHAT IS REQUIRED.

NOT THESE CAREER POLITICIANS BUT PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOUR CONSTITUTION, KNOW OUR RIGHTS.

IT WAS DESIGNED TO BE A CITIZENS LEGISLATURE, A CITIZENS GOVERNMENT.

IT NEVER WAS DESIGNED TO BE FOR CAREER POLITICIANS.

>> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT TERM LIMITS BUT I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT WHAT ISSUES DRIVE YOUR CAMPAIGN AND YOUR CANDIDACY.

WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IF YOU WERE SENT TO WASHINGTON?

>> I HAVE THREE THINGS THAT I CALL ON MY TOP SHELF.

FIRST OF ALL IS DEFENDING LIFE.

I'M VERY PRO-LIFE.

100%.

SECOND IS DEFENDING OUR 2ND AMENDMENTS RIGHTS.

AND THIRD OF ON MY TOP SHELF IS PRESENTING OUR MEDICAL LIBERTY.

IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO GET A VACCINE THEY SHOULD FEEL FREE, BUT IF THEY CHOOSE NOTE TO GET ONE I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE FORCED, COERCE ODOR PRESSURE TO DO SO.

>> ON YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE YOU KIND OF TAKE AIM ABOUT COVID, I ASSUME.

I WOULD LIKE FOR TO YOU RESPOND TO THAT.

YOU HAVE A PICTURE AND THE CAPTION THAT SAYS, SOMETHING ABOUT I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE SCIENCE BUT IT KEEPS LEADING ME BACK TO THE MONEY.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> TELL US WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.

>> I MEAN THAT I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THROUGH COVID HAS BEEN DRIVEN NOT BY THE VIRUS ITSELF, A REAL VIRUS.

I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS BECAUSE DIFFERENT BIG COMPANIES SUCH AS BIG PHARMA ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY OFF OF THE PROCESS.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE REALLY COULD HAVE DONE IT A LOT BETTER.

FOR EXAMPLE.

BE WITH A WAS WATCHING YOUR PREVIOUS EDITION WHERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TO CONGRESSMAN ANDY BARR AND HE MENTIONED OUT OF THE LAST COVID STIMULUS THAT LESS THAN 10% OF THAT MONEY WENT TO ACTUAL COVID-RELATED PROGRAMS, AND THE OTHER 90% WAS A BUNCH POKER PORK THAT WAS USED AND MISUSED.

MY I DON'T KNOW THE CREDIT VOTED FOR THAT WHICH INCLUDED GETTING A $4.3 MILLION GOVERNMENT LOAN FOR HIS PERSONAL FAMILY BUSINESS THAT HE LIKELY WILL NOT TO HAVE PAY BACKS WHICH COMPLETELY UNCOVID-RELATED.

>> SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED FOR THE COVID RELIEF PACKAGES?

>> I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR THAT PACKAGE FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON THAT IT INCLUDED $80 MILLION OF FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

AND UNLIKE MY OPPONENT, I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT INCLUDES FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

>> IAN THOUGH IT WAS BIPARTISAN IN NATURE AND THE VOTE YOU STILL.

WHAT OTHER ISSUES DO YOU HAVE FOR FEDERAL FUNDING OF RELIEF PACKAGES?

IS COVID THE ONLY EXAMPLE OF WHICH YOU FEEL IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED?

>> NO, WE HAVE $51 BILLION IN THAT WE SPENT LAST YEAR IN FOREIGN AID.

I BELIEVE A GREAT PORTION OF THAT SHOULD BE REDIRECTED BACK TO PROGRAMS THAT WE NEED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE 2ND CONGRESS AT DISTRICT WE COULD USE SOME MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS WITH ROADS, WITH INSTALLING SOME MORE HIGH SPEED INTERNET, AND MORE OF OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER DIRECTED FEDERAL FUNDING HERE AT HOME THAN SENDING IT OVERSEAS.

>> SO LET'S TALK ABOUT FOREIGN AFFAIRS, AS YOU MENTIONED.

YOU SERVED IN THE MILITARY FOR 11 YEARS.

ARE YOU CRITICAL OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S STRATEGY TO EXIT AFGHANISTAN?

WE'LL TALK ABOUT UKRAINE IN A MINUTE.

TELL US HOW OR IF YOU VIEW THAT AS A BOTCHED OPERATION.

>> AGAIN AS A COMPAT VETERAN I HAVE SERVED LITERALLY WITH THE ROCKET'S RED GLARE, BOMBES BURSTING IN AIR.

I THINK THE DISASTROUS WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN SHOWED TO OUR ALLIES THAT AMERICA'S LEADERSHIP IS WEAK AND WON'T STAND WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT IS ONE THE REASONS THAT AN EMBOLDEN PUTIN TO ACTUALLY INVADE UKRAINE BECAUSE HE REALIZED AMERICAN LEADERSHIP IS NOT WHAT IT WAS AND HE NEED TODAY STRIKE WHILE IT IS WEAK AND DISORGANIZED.

SO I WOULD VERY MUCH BLAME HIM IN PART.

PUTIN DESERVES THE ULTIMATE BLAME BUT HE WAS ENCOURAGE TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF THE WEAK LEADERSHIP OF JOE BIDEN.

>> THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC SENTIMENT THAT IT WAS TIME TO END AMERICA'S FOREVER WAR IN AFGHANISTAN, SO YOU WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF PERMANENT OCCUPATION THERE, PERMANENT PRESENCE THERE?

>> NO, BUT THE WITHDRAWAL SHOULD BE DONE IN A VERY STRATEGIC WAY, WHICH IT WAS NOT.

1ST YOU MAKE SURE TO WITHDRAW ALL OF THE PERSONNEL, OUR ALLIES.

THEN YOU TAKE OUT ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT, AND FINALLY YOU TAKE OUT THE TROOPS ON THE GROUND.

THEY TOOK OUT JUST THE TROOPS.

THEY LEFT MANY OF OUR ALLIES.

THEY LEFT A GREAT DEAL OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND THE EXACTS OPPOSITE OF THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE IN PROPER MILITARY FASHION.

>> DO YOU DO YOU CAST PLAME ON IN UKRAINE IN.

>> IN UKRAINE THE ULTIMATELY BLAME HAS TO GO TO VLADIMIR PUTIN.

HE IS THE ONE THAT IS A AGGRESSOR.

I DO NOT THINK THAT OUR COUNTRY UNDER BIDEN'S LEADERSHIP DID ANYTHING TO HELP THE SITUATION BE BUT PUTIN IS THE ONE DOIN' THE AGGRESSION SO HE IS TO BLAME.

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SANCTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE ARE STRONG ENOUGH?

WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE?

>> I DO NOT THINK THAT JUST SANCTIONS ARE ENOUGH.

THE TROUBLE IS WE'VE BEEN VERY REACTIONARY TO THIS.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE PROACTIVE BY HELPING THE UKRAINIANS TO REALLY ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES MORE.

AND HAD WE BEEN MORE FROM ACTIVE IN-ELECT THEM GET ARMED UP NOT BY DEPLOYING U.S.

TROOPS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE BEEN IN TOO MANY FOREIGN WARS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS BEING IN.

BUT I THINK WE CAN HELP THEM TO HELP THEMSELVES, AND IF WE HAD DONE THAT MORE, I. I DON'T THINK WE'D BE IN THE SITUATION WE'RE IN TODAY.

>> RI A PRO INNOCENT OF A NO-FLY ZONE?

>> I THINK THE BEST WAY TO HAVE A NO-FLY ZONE IS THE EQUIP THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE WITH THE ABILITY TO MAKE A NO-FLY ZONE.

I KNORR THERE'S A STINGER MISSILE, COST $38,000 AND HAS A 90% KILL RATE.

SELL THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE ABOUT 1,000 OF THOSE AND IF WE HAD 900 OF OUR AIRCRAFT DROPPING OUT OF OF THE WARE AIR IN IRAQ WE WOULD HAVE HAD TURNED AROUND AND GONE HOME, AND RUSSIANS WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME THING AND IT WOULDN'T COST ONE DROP OF AMERICAN BLOOD.

>> SHOULD THERE BE U.S.

TROOPS THERE?

>> I WOULD NOT DEPLOY U.S.

TROOPS IN A PLACE WHERE WE COULD NOT HAVE ANY INTEREST HERE, SO I THINK WE SHOULD HELP THEM TO HELP THEMSELVES BUT IF THERE'S NEONOT A DIRECT INTO THE UNITED STATES WE SHOULD STAY OUT TO WARS.

>> UKRAINE IS OFTEN CALLED THE BREAD BASKET OF THE WORLD.

DO YOU NOT SEE THAT IS A LEGITIMATE REASON FOR PROTECTING THEM?

>> THAT'S ONE OF REASONS I THINK WE NEED TO BE BOTH ENERGY INDEPENDENT, FOOD INDEPENDENT.

THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN KNOWN AS THAT BREAD BASKET OF THE WORLD, AND I THINK IF WE ARE TO EQUIP OURSELVES WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON OTHERS FOR FOOD, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON THEM FOR ENERGY, IT WILL HELP NOT ONLY PRICES HERE IN THE UNITED STATES BUT IT WILL ALSO INCREASE INTERNATIONAL SECURITY SECURITY BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE DEPENDENT UPON OUR RESOURCES AND NOT ON THOSE SUCH AS PEOPLE BUYING FOOD OR FUEL FROM THE UKRAINE OR FROM RUSSIA.

>> WE'LL TAKE A SHORT PIVOT HERE AND TAKE A QUESTION FROM A VIEWER.

FROM ELIZABETHTOWN ASKS, WHAT MAKES YOU MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN YOUR OPPONENT?

>> SEVERAL THINGS MAKE ME MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN MY OPPONENT.

FIRST OF ALL, IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR HE VOTED FOR A MEASURE THAT INCLUDED TAKING GUNS AWAY FROM OUR VETERANS.

I AM A COMBAT VETERAN AND I WE NEVER VOTE FOR A MEASURE TO VIOLATE OUR GUN RIGHTS.

ALSO WHAT'S MORE CONSERVATIVE ABOUT ME THAN MY OPPONENT IS, AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, HE VOTED FOR THAT BILL IN 2022 THAT PROVIDED $80 MILLION OF FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

AND I WOULD NEVER SUPPORT A MEASURE THAT FUNDS ABORTION.

SO THOSE ARE TWO SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.

I'VE GIVE YOU ONE BONUS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN SO GOOD.

IS THAT SHE HAS NEVER SEEMED TO FIND A SPENDING BILL OR A TAX BILL THAT HE DIDN'T LIKE.

AND I AM VERY AGAINST THIS OUT-OF-CONTROL SPENDING, THIS INCREASE IN TAXATION.

I LIKE THE CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES LESS TAXATION AND LESS GOVERNMENT.

>> HAVE YOU VOTED FOR CONGRESSMAN LEWIS IN THE PAST?

>> I HAVE.

I GOT ONE TIME.

DID I NOT GET TO VOTE FOR MR. GUTHRIE.

I WAS OVERSEAS IN THE SERVICE, AND I DID NOT GET TO VOTE FOR HIM.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT GUN CONTROL THAT YOU JUST KIND OF BRIEFLY MENTIONED.

P YOU DO TALK ABOUT PROTECTING 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND YOU WILL OPPOSE ANY EFFORTS TO INFRINGE ON THAT.

SO TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR GUN RIGHTS PLATFORM AND IN AN AGE WHERE THERE IS AN INCREASING MORE GUN VIOLENCE AND MANY PEOPLE ARE CALLING FOR WHAT THEY PERCEIVE AS COMMON-SENSE GUN CONTROLS LIKE BACKGROUND CHECKS, DO YOU SUPPORT THOSE MEASURES?

DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE AGAINST GUN RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES?

>> FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL JANET RENO SAID THAT BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE MERELY A STEP.

KDE AWAKE PERIODS NEARLY A STEP.

OUR GOAL IS TOTAL GUN CON FIS CAUTION.

THOSE ARE HER WORDS IF I REMEMBERED THE QUOTE CORRECTLY.

I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE CHECKS TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS NOT A CONVICTED FELON OR CRIMINAL BUT IF THEY ARE NOT I AM FOR LETTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BE ARMED.

THE 2ND AMENDMENT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO DEFEND OUR RIGHTS, AND IF WE EVER LOEWS LOSE OUR 2ND AMOUNTED RIGHTS THEN I BELIEVE ALL OF OUR 1st AMENDMENT RIGHTS WILL QUICKLY LEAVE AS WELL.

>> FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE DIAGNOSED WITH SEVERE BE MENTAL ILLNESS AND PROPENSITY TO CAUSE HARM, YOU BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD ALSO BE ALLOWED TO CARRY GUNS?

>> WE HAVE THERE THE DANGER OF WHAT IS CALLED THE RED FLAG LAW WHICH IS SOMETHING MY OPPONENT VOTED FOR.

WHEN SOMEONE A USES SAYING YOU MIGHT COMMIT A CRIME SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE SO WE'RE GOING TO DENY YOU OF YOUR GUN RIGHTS.

THIS IS A BLATANT VIOLATION OF WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE BECAUSE A PERSON HASN'T COMMITTED ANY CRIME.

IF THEY ARE RULED INCOMPETENT BY PAY MEDICAL COMMUNITY AND THE JUDGE, THAT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN THESE RED FLAG LAWS, AND I WOULD NOT SUPPORT AN ISSUE JUST A BLANKET TAKE GUN RIGHTS AWAY FROM AMERICANS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SEPARATES ME FROM MY OPPONENT.

>> ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS ALSO ON YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE OR YOUR WEBSITE LISTED AS ONE OF THE TOP FIVE ISSUES OF CONCERN TO YOU.

WHAT ARE ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION?

>> WELL, WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION GEN AS NOTED BY CONGRESSMAN BARR IN YOUR LAST PROGRAM, THEY HAVE SEEN WE HAD MORE THAN 20 OF TOP TERRORISTS WANTED HAVE BEEN SEIZED COMING ACROSS OUR SOUTHERN BORDER, AND THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT SEPARATES ME FROM MY OPPONENT.

IN JUNE OF 2018 HE VOTED FOR A BILL THAT GRANTED 1.8 ILLEGAL INVADERS AMNESTY AND IT WENT ON TO GRANT THEM ALL CITIZENSHIP.

I THINK THAT ONLY ENCOURAGES MORE ILLEGAL INVASION.

I THINKY WOO SHOULD BUILD THE WALL.

I AM ALL FOR IMMIGRATION BUT I AM OPPOSED TO INVASION, AND WE HAVE -- RIGHT NOW WE ARE FACING A CRISIS OF INVASION AND NOT IMMIGRATION.

>> BUT YOU SUPPORTED A UKRAINIAN REFUGEES WHO MAY HAVE TO COME TO AMERICA.

>> WE COULD HAVE A PROGRAM FOR UKRAINIAN REFUGEES TO GO THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS FOR LEGALLY IMMIGRATING AND THAT WOULD FIT IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID, ALL FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

>> THIS QUESTION FROM JASON GETTINGER.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT TRUMP HOLDINGS BACK FUNDS FROM UKRAINE?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THE SPECIFICS ON WHICH PARTICULAR FUNDS HE WAS TALKING ABOUT AND WHICH SITUATION IN ORDER TO ANSWER THAT PROPERLY.

MY MAMA ALWAYS SAID, DON'T SIGN ANYTHING UNTIL YOU READ IT.

SO UNTIL I HAD ALL THE DETAILS, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

>> ELECTION SECURITY AND INTEGRITY, WHICH YOU HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT, YOU SAID, "I DON'T BELIEVE A GUY WHO HARDLY CAMPAIGNED AND COULDN'T DRAW ENOUGH CROWDS TO FILL A SCHOOLAL HIGH SCHOOL GYM RECEIVED THE MOST VOTES IN AMERICAN HISTORY."

YOU DO NOT BELIEVE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN WON THE ELECTION.

>> DO I NOT BELIEVE HE WON THE ELECTION.

>> TELL US WHY.

>> BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO TO PED BED YOU SEE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS LEADING IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT STATES, AND THEN THE IN MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT THERE'S MULTIPLE DOCUMENTATION WHERE HE SUPPOSEDLY WOULD THE 100,000 OR 300,000 AND 100 FIRST WERE FOR JOE BIDEN AND ZERO PERCENT FOR DONALD TRUMP.

WE HAVE SEEN PRECINCTS WHICH WAS GREATER THAN 100%, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE.

SO DO I NOTE BELIEVE THAT MR. BIDEN WON THE ELECTION.

I DO BELIEVE THAT IN TRUMP DID.

>> SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE JANUARY 6th INSURRECTION, DO YOU CALL IT AN INSURRECTION OR DO YOU THINK 2S A FRIENDLY RALLY?

>> I THINK IT TOOK PLACE IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT.

I DID NOT BELIEVE THERE I WAS COUP THAT TRIED TO TAKE PLACE ON JANUARY 6th.

>> HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE JANUARY 6th OF I THINK JANUARY 6th HAS BEEN MISREPRESENTED A LOT IN THE MEDIA.

THERE'S BEEN MANAGEMENT VIDEOS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SEEING BEING WAVED INTO THE CAPITOL BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE SHOULD HAVE ENTERED THE CAPITOL THAT DAY.

THAT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE.

BUT I THINK IT HAS BEEN GREATLY MISREPRESENTED IN THE MEDIA.

>> SO DESPITE THE IMAGES THAT WE HAVE ALL SEEN IN TECHNICOLOR, YOU DIST DISPUTE THE AUTHENTICITY OF THAT VIDEO?

>> FOR EXAMPLE PEOPLE BEING IN THE CAPITOL IN.

>> YES, OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS INVADING THE CAPITOL AND KILLED IN CAPITOL.

>> YES, OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE CAPITOL AND I DO NOT SUPPORT THEM GOING INTO THE CAPITOL.

BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS OFTEN BEEN STAGED, SOME BY THE ANTIFA AND THE LEFT, AND I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS THE RANK AND FILE CONSERVATIVE THAT SUPPORTED PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH.

>> SO DON'T BELIEVE HE STOKED THE CROWD INTO A FRENZY THAT CAUSED THAT.

>>> I DO NOT.

>> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ABORTION AND SOME OF THESE OTHER ISSUES, PARTICULARLY SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER THOSE TO BE SOCIAL WEDGE ISSUES.

WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE TAXES, ARE YOU JUST AS PASSIONATE ABOUT THAT AS YOU ARE SOCIAL WEDGE ISSUES SUCH AS ABORTION AND OTHER THINGS?

>> WELL, BEING A REPUBLICAN, TWO OF OUR KEYS ARE LESS GOVERNMENT AND LESS TAXES.

SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR ANY TAX INCREASES, AND I DON'T THINK THAT ONE RED CENT SHOULD BE USED OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO BE FUNDING ABORTION, WHICH IS AGAIN SOMETHING THAT SEPARATES ME FROM MY OPPONENT WHO SENT THE ABORTION CLINICS $80 MILLION.

>> AND HE'S NOT HERE TO DEFEND HIMSELF, AND SO WE'LL LEAVE THAT THERE.

THE OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU TALK ABOUT IS GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEBT AND THE DEFICIT?

>> YES.

DEFICIT SPENDING IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN THE UNITED STATES.

SOONER OR LATER THE MONEY IS GOING TO RUN OUT.

WE MUST GET OUR FISCAL HOUSE IN ORDER.

>> DO YOU FAVOR CUTBACKS TO ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY AND MED CARE?

>> ACTUALLY THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SEPARATES ME FROM MY OPPONENT.

HERE IN MAY -- MARCH HE VOTED FOR A GOVERNMENT BAIL-OUT WHICH WOULD TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM MEDICARE TO BAIL ON THE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT BAIL OTTER AND I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THING LIKE THAT.

>> SO WHAT WOULD YOU ACCOMPLISH IN THE MINUTE AND 26 SECONDS WE HAVE REMAINING, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AGAIN IF YOU WERE SENT TO WASHINGTON AND WHY SHOULD THE VOTERS THE IN 2ND DISTRICT VOTE FOR YOU AND NOT YOUR OPPONENT?

>> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH, WOULD I LOVE TO BE PUT ON THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE IN CONGRESS.

I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE FOX WATCHING THE HEN HOUSE.

IF I COULD ACCOMPLISH A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS AND TELL PEOPLE MY PITCH, I WOULD LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE THAT I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND YOUR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT SEPARATES ME FROM MY OPPONENT WHO VOTED TO TAKE THEM BECAME ALWAYS SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE LIFE OF THE UNBORN WHICH MY OPPONENT AGAIN SENT FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD.

AND I AM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF A GOVERNMENT RUN BY WE, THE PEOPLE, AND NOT CAREER POLITICIANS.

I HAVE SERVED OUR NATION IN UNIFORM AND WITH THE PEOPLE'S VOTE WOULD I LIKE TO SERVE AS THEIR VOICE IN WASHINGTON, D.C. >> MR. E. LEE WATTS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

>> IT'S BEEN NICE TO BE WITH YOU.

>> AND PLEASE STAY WITH US.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK THE CLAIRE WIRTH, THE CANDIDATE IN THE 4th DISTRICT.

Welcome back.

We are joined now by E. Lee BREAK 2 TRT: 2:45 #### >> Renee: THANK YOU NOR STAYING WITH US.

WE CONCLUDE TONIGHT WITH CLAIRE WIRTH.

THESE ONE OF FOUR RFPs RUNNING IN 4th CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

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MS. WIRTH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> SO LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND A LITTLE BIT.

EMPLOYEES INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE KENTUCKIANS.

>> HI.

MY NAME IS CLAIRE WIRTH AND I'M RUNNING FOR CONGRESS HERE IN DISTRICT 4ICH FIVE LITTLE KIDS HEMA AND I ADOPTED A KENTUCKY FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.

I WAS ONE OF THE MOTHERS AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS.

I ALSO OWN A REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT COMPANY.

I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A STRONG CONSERVATIVE LEADER, STRONG FIGHTER.

I WAS -- I'M FROM ARIZONA ORIGINALLY AND I'VE TAKEN THOSE SAME SHAWLS VALUES HERE AND I'M EXCITED TO POSSIBLY REPRESENT THE 4th DISTRICT OF KENTUCKY.

>> AS YOU SAID, YOU MOVED FROM ARIZONA THREE YEARS AGO?

>> FIVE.

>> FIVE YEARS AGO.

DO I KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE 4th CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TO REPRESENT IT APPROPRIATELY SHOULD BE BE ELECTED TO DO SO?

>> I BELIEVE I DO.

THIS IS THIS THE THIRD MOST REPUBLICAN DISTRICT IN THE NATION.

I'VE BEEN A STRONG CONSERVATIVE FIGHTER AND I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR CONSERVATIVE VALUES SINCE I WAS A TEENAGER GOING TO MARCH FOR LIVE LIFE IN WASHINGTON, DC.

A HUGE PROPONENT LIGHTNING WITH SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO FIGHTING FOR A STRONG BORDER AND BASIC LIBERTIES.

>> IS THAT WHY YOU MOVED FROM ARIZONA, BECAUSE OF BORDER ISSUES?

>> IT ACTUALLY IS.

WHEN I MOVED HERE I HAD FOUR MOTHERS AND LIKE MORE MOTHERS I HAD A LOT OF ANXIETY AND ARIZONA IS ACTUALLY THE KIDNAPPING CAPITAL OF AMERICA AND IT WAS IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE RAISE OUR CHILDREN IN A STRONG RED STATE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY BETTER SPOT THAN THE 4th DISTRICT OF KENTUCKY.

>> WHAT'SMENT PROKING YOU TO RUN FOR OFFICE?

THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME.

>> THIS IS MI MYERS TIME RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

PROBABLY JANUARY 60th.

I FELT LIKE OUR ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM US.

IT'S VERY AGGRAVATING, AND I SAW MY CONGRESSMAN NOT TAKE A STAND, AND THAT'S VERY FRUSTRATING AND I'VE ALSO SEEN HIM IN THE PAST NOT TAKE A STAND ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER WHICH IS AN ISSUE THAT I FEEL VERY, VERY STRONGLY ABOUT AND I SAW HUM TURN HIS BACK ON THE PEOPLE DISTRICT 4 AND I COULD NOT STAND BY AND WATCH ANYMORE.

>> WHAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT YOU LEAN ON THAT INFORMS YOU THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND THAT PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN WIN IT RIGHTFULLY?

>> SO 17,000 DUPLICATE BALLOTS IN MARICOPA COUNTY.

WE HAVE SEER INSTITUTE SUITCASES BEING PULLED FROM UNDERNEATH TABLES AND COUNTED IN THE DEAD OF THE NIGHT.

WE GO TO BED AND TRUMP IS WAY AHEAD AND THEN AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING IN SIX DIFFERENT STATES WE WAKE UP AND BIDEN IS PRESIDENT.

THAT'S AN ISSUE.

>> YOUR VIEW ON JANUARY 6th.

DO I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS AN INSURRECTION OR DO YOU VIEW AT A SOMETHING ELSE?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS AN INSURRECTION.

THERE WAS MILITARY -- I'M SORRY -- CAPITOL POLICE THAT LET PEOPLE IN.

THEY ALLOWED PEOPLE TO COME IN.

THEY HELD THE COURSE DOORS OPEN FOR THEM.

THERE'S A LOT OF VIDEO OF THEM HOLDINGS DOORS OPEN AND LETTING PEOPLE IN SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT COULD BE DEFINED AS AN INSURRECTION.

>> SO YOU SAW THE VIOLENCE THAT WAS DEPICTED BY CAMERAS OF WHAT HAPPENED.

DO YOU JUST THINK THAT WAS A RALLY OR DO YOU THINK THAT VIOLIN WAS JUSTIFIED?

DID YOU SEE VIOLIN WHEN YOU SAW THOSE IMAGES?

>> I FEEL LIKE THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE SENT IN TO STRUCTURE OF THE WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GOING ON WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PEACEFUL, AND PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF EVEN WAS TAPED ON THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN SAYING, WE'RE CALLING FOR PEACE.

IT'S NOT OKAY NOT TO BE PEACEFUL.

HE SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES, THAT IT'S NOTE OKAY TO BE DISRUPTIVE OR CAUSE MAYHEM BUT THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE INSTIGATORS THAT OVERA BETTER KENTUCKY AN ISSUE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

>> SO YOU BELIEVE IT WAS LEFT FOLKS WHO WERE FROM ANTIFA OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT INFILTRATED AND CAUSED THE MAYHEM.

>> I DO BELIEVE SO.

>> TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT AND WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE OF THAT?

>> I THINK THERE'S COUNTLESS VIDEOS ON FACEBOOK AND OTHER PLATFORMS THAT WOULD SHOW EVERYONE WHAT REALLY HAPPENED THAT DAY.

I KNOW PEOPLE, MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE AND SAID, WE DO NOT SEE ANY VIOLENCE.

CAPITOL POLICE WERE LETTING PEOPLE IN, AND NOW WE'RE HAVING POLITICAL PRISONERS BEING HELD AND DENIED THEIR DUE PROCESS AND NOBODY IS STANDING UP FOR THEM.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE UNITED STATES AMERICA PEOPLE SHOULD BE DENIED DUE PROCESS.

>> YET YOU WEREN'T THERE BUT DO YOU WISH YOU HAD BEEN?

>> I WISH I HAD BEEN.

I WAS AT HOME WITH MY CHILDREN.

I'M ALWAYS GLAD TO BE HOME WITH MY KIDS.

>> SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE POLITICALLY.

DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF RIGHT OF THOMAS MASSEY?

>> I DO.

>> AND TELL US HOW AND WHY.

>> AND ONE OF THE REASONS YOU KNOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOMAS MASSEY, I THINK THAT WE ALL ASSUME BECAUSE HIS TWITTER AND OTHER SOCIAL PLATFORMS ARE EXTREMELY RIGHT WING, AND I GET THAT, AND I'VE BEEN A SUPPORTER OF THOMAS MASSEY IN THE PAST BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO LOCKING AS THE HIS VOTING RECORD AND YOU DIG HE IS THE AGATHA MOW LIBERAL VOTER IN CONGRESS.

HE VOTED FOR THE BOARDS TOILE FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT REASONS AND NONE OF THEM ADDED UP.

YOU SEE HE VOTE AGAINST NATIONAL RECIPROCITY.

I BELIEVE NO MATTER WHAT STATE YOU ARE IN, NEW YORK, ARIZONA, YOU HAVE YOUR 2ND CAN AMENDMENT REASONS THAT.

THAT'S WHY THE NLA GAVE MINIMUM A C AND AD RECENTLY VOTING AGAINST NATIONAL RECIPROCITY?

SO YOU HAVE I DO NOT BEEN HERE FOR FIVE YEARS.

ARE YOU VOTED FOR CONGRESSMAN MASSEY IN THE PAST?

>> I HAVE.

I HAVE VOTED FOR CONGRESSMAN MASSEY IN THE PAST.

>> BUT NOW YOU'RE NOT SUPPORTIVE.

>> NO, I'M NOT.

>> WHEN DID YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND.

>> >> PROBABLY JANUARY 6th.

THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED ME TO CHANGE MY MIND.

I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED INTO HIS VOTING RECORD.

I ALWAYS HAVE MY EAR TO THE GROUND WHAT'S GOING ON POLITICALLY AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE SINCE I WAS 17.

A LOT OF PEOPLE FOLLOW SPORTS.

FOR ME IT'S POLITICS.

LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

THIS IS MY CHILDREN'S FUTURE.

I WANT THEM TO HAVE THE AMERICAN DREAM.

I WANT MY CHILDREN TO GROW UP IN THAT KIND OF AMERICA.

SO JUST HIM VOTING AGAINST THESE VERY CONSERVATIVE ISSUES, WASTING HIS OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAD THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND THE PRESIDENCY, AND THE REPUBLICANS SQUANDERED THE OPPORTUNITY, AND WE WONDER WHY WE'RE THE IN POSITION WE ARE IN NOW, AND THAT'S SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY SQUANDER IT.

THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT.

NOW WE'RE IN THIS MESS WE ARE IN BECAUSE OF CAREER POLITICIANS.

>> SO IF YOU WERE ELECTED TO SERVE IN WASHINGTON, WHAT CONGRESSPERSON WOULD YOU MOST ALIGN WITH BASED ON IDEOLOGY OR PRESENCE OR MEDIA ABILITY?

>> OH, THERE ARE SO MANY.

I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE AND IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO PICK ONE SPECIFIC PERSON A LINE WITH BECAUSE FOR EVERY PERSON THAT I CHOOSE, I CAN THINK OF THREE THINGS THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH THEM, SOS THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO LET ME WITH ANY ONE OF THEM.

I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO BE A FIGHTER, A STRONG CONSERVATIVE FIGHTER BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IN HAVING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DECORUM.

>> MARJORIE TAYLOR GREEN.

HOW DO YOU RATE HER.

>> IT'S NOT I.

NOT THAT I DO NOT LIKE HER.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DECOR PUM WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DC YOU HAVE TO BRING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GRACE WITH YOU.

AND SIMPLY YELLING AND THROWING A FIT ON THE HOUSE FLOOR IS NOT ENOUGH.

YOU NEED TO GET IN THERE, WORK HARD AND DO RIGHT BY YOUR CONSTITUENCY AND NOT MAKE YOUR STATE LOOK ANY WHICH WAY YOU.

NEED TO REPRESENT YOUR STATE WELL.

>> SO WHAT OTHER USUALS ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT OTHER THAN BORDER SECURITY AND A COUPLE OTHERS THAT YOU MENTIONED?

YOUR PLATFORM CONTAINS WHAT SUSPICIOUS.

>> ONE OF THEM IS SUPPORTING OR YOU ALLIES IN ISRAEL, BUT PRIMARILY THE BORDER WALL.

THE I THINK THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE BECAUSE SO MANY OF OUR PROBLEMS STEM FROM THAT.

$130BILLION A YEAR IS WHAT WE SPEND EACH AND EVERY YEAR ON THE ZORN BORDER.

WE HAVE 200,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FLOODING OUR BORDERS EACH AND EVERY MONTH AND THAT NUMBER IS ABOUT TO DOUBLE RIGHT BEFORE THE PRIMARIES.

WE'RE ELSE PROBLEMS WITH LEEKS INTEGRITY, AND I E REALLY BELIEVE WE NEED AT THE RETURN TIE PAPER BALLOT.

>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT TERM LIMITS BECAUSE I THINK ON YOUR FACEBOOK OR WEBSITE YOU MENTIONED YOU ARE A SUPPORTER OF TEMPERATURE LIMITS.

>> YES.

>> TELL US ABOUT THAT THIS.

WHAT SHOULD BE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TERMS?

>> I BELIEVE THREE TERMS.

>> WHY THAT NUMBER?

>>> IN U.S.

TERM LIMITS THEY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU SHOULD SERVE AND I THINK IT'S BEEN A MAGIC NUMBER.

WE ARE SEEING WHEN POLITICIANS ARE IN THERE FOR LONGER THAN TIME THEY GET SWAMPY.

THEY ALWAYS ALIGN WITH SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS OVER WHAT THE PEOPLE THINK, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MAGIC NUMBER, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO STAY IN THERE ANY LONGER THAN THAT.

I WANT TO DO RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT THE ME AND I NEVER WANT TO GIVE IN TO SPECIAL INTERESTS OR LOBBIES.

THIS ENTIRE TAME TIME I'VE ONLY YOU HAD EVER USED MY OWN MONEY FOR THIS CAMPAIGN.

WE HAVE SOME DONORS, $5, $10 DONORS BUT WE DID NOT CATER TO SPECIAL INTERESTS.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT GUN RIGHTS.

YOU'RE A PROPONENT OF THE 2ND AMENDMENT.

>>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> AND YOU'VE BEEN CRITICAL OF CONGRESSMAN MASSEY HOO THAT WAS THE HOURS OF THE 2ND AMENDMENT CAUCUSES.

OVER THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS HE TWEETED A PHOTO OF HIS FAMILY WITH MERRY CHRISTMAS, SANTA.

PLEASE BRING AMO.

THAT WAS TWEETED ON TWITTER JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER A SHOOTING THAT LEFT MICHIGAN STUDENTS DEAD.

HE'S NOT PRO-GUN ENOUGH FOR.

>> YOU I THINK THAT WAS POOR TIMING ON HIS PART.

DO I LIKE HIS CARD?

YES.

WOULD I WOULD I HAVE DONE IT WHEN WA WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE NEWS?

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

MESSAGING IS OBVIOUSLY ON PRETTY IMPORTANT.

>> BUT YOU THINK HE'S WEAK ON GUN RIGHT I?

>> YES.

NATIONAL RECIPROCITY BEING ONE OF THOSE THINGS AND OTHER THING IS NOT GETTING RID OF THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL TAX STAMP, THE HEARING PROTECTION ACT.

I THINK THAT IS HIGHLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

I CANNOT IMAGINE WHY WE COULD STILL HAVE A TAX STAMP ON FIREARMS AND ACCESSORIES.

>> SO YOU WOULDN'T BE FOR ANY WHAT MAY BE CONSIDERED OR BILLED A COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL MEASURES THAT COULD PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THOSE WHO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS FROM POSSESSING FIREARMS OR OTHER ISSUES LIKE THAT?

>> I DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANY RED FLAG LAWS.

SO NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO INFRINGE ON INANYONE'S RIGHTS.

JUST LOOK LEE WATTS WAS SAYING SAYING, IF SOMEONE HAS AN ISSUE AND IT'S DOCUMENTED AND YOU GO TO COURT THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN INFRINGING ON ANYONE'S RIGHTS.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IN RED FLAG LAWS.

PEOPLE WHO ARE VOTING ON RED FLAG LAWS DO THE NO BELONG IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> FOR FOLKS WHO BELONG TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, TO USE YOUR PHRASE, DID YOU BELIEVE THERE'S RHINOS WEEKS, REPUBLICANS IN NAME ONLY?

>> I THINK SO.

WHEN YOU VOTE THE EIGHTH MORE LIBERAL OUT OF EVERY MEMBER OF THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS, I THINK THAT MAKES YOU A RINO.

I THINK IF YOU'RE CERTIFICATE FU A STOLEN ELECTION I BELIEVE THAT MAKES A I RIN PORNOGRAPHY WHEN YOU'RE NOT REFLECTING WHAT THE PEOPLE WOULDN'T IN YOUR DISTRICT YOU'RE A RINO.

>> AN ENDORSEMENT BY FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO YOU.

>>> IT IS WOULD.

>> HOW DO YOU CONSIDER BOB TO BE THE GREATEST THREAT FOR AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.

>>> FREE AND FAIR LEASING.

THEY DON'T WE DON'T HAVE FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS WE DON'T HAVE A COUNTRY.

THINK EVERYONE ON BODES SIDES OF THE AISLE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND WE NEED TO RETURN TO A PAPER BALLOT.

>> INTERESTING.

ELECTION SECURITY YOU'VE MENTIONED.

WHAT WOULD ELECTION REFORMS LOOK LIKE IN YOUR VIEW?

>> I THINK THE MORE DIFFICULT WE MAKE IT, THE WORSE IT GETS.

I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY SIMPLE.

I THINK WE'VE MADE IT -- POLARIZED AND IT MADE IT TOO DIFFICULT.

I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO RETURN TO A PAPER BALLOT AND THAT'S THE END OF IT.

I THINK THAT USING DOMINION AND OTHER VOTING MACHINES HAD OPENED UP THE POSSIBILITY OF FRAUD IN OUR ELECTIONS, AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.

>> DO YOU BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE OR OTHER MEASURES THAT YOU BELIEVE WOULD BE PROTECTIVE TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS BUILDINGS OF PUBLIC CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN THE OUTCOME?

>> I THINK VIDEO SURVEILLANCE WOULD BE GREAT.

IF WE DIDN'T HAVE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE WE WONT KNOW ABOUT THE BALLOTS BEING TAKEN OUT FROM UNDERNEATH TABLES AND COUNTED DURING MIL OF THE NIGHT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> THIS QUESTION FROM SIMPSONVILLE AND I'M READING IT AS IT'S SENT.

RIGHTS FREQUENTED FOR GUNS BUT NOT RIGHTS OF PRIVACY BETWEEN A POM'S OB/GYN AND HER DOCTOR'S PROCEDURES?

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ON ABORTION?

>> I BELIEVE LIFE BEGINS A CONCEPTION.

I'M A HUGELY PROVED IN THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT.

I ADOPTED A LITTLE GIRL FROM FOSTER CARE FROM THE NICU AND SHE WAS JUST A MONTH OLD, AND THE FIRST THING DID I WHEN I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO HER MOTHER WAS THANK HER FOR CHOOSING LIFE.

PRO-LIFE IS A HUGE PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN, AND I WILL ALWAYS BE FIRMLY PRO-LIFE.

>> YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON COVID AND THE SCIENCE AND THE GUEST THAT WAS ON PREVIOUSLY, MR. WATTS WHO IS RUNNING IN 2ND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT QUESTIONS THE SCIENCE AND QUESTIONS IT BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THAT COULD BE ATTACHED TO IT.

WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ABOUT THE COVID PANDEMIC AND THE RESPONSE TO IT?

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT YOU DO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE MONEY A LITTLE BIT HERE, RIGHT?

I THINK WE HAVE A DOCTOR AND IN OLDHAM COUNTY WHO WORKED WITH DR. FAUCI AND SHE ACTUALLY WAS SUPER LIBERAL AND BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IS SUPER RIGHT WING AND SHE WAS GOING TO US WITH SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS AND SHE SAID, I KNEW THAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT MONEY WHEN HE SAID IT WAS OKAY IN THE TO BE IN THE TREATS RIDING.

AT THE SAME TIME OUR CHILDREN WEREN'T ALLOWED TO GO TO SCHOOL.

IN THE STREETS RIGHTING.

IT WASN'T ABOUT SAFETY ANY MORE.

IT WAS ABOUT MESSAGING AND CONTROL.

>> YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE OR ADHERE TO MITIGATION MEASURES SUCH AS MASKING AND VACCINATION?

>> I DID NOT GET A VACCINE.

I DID NOT IMMEDIATE ADHERE -- I BELIEVE IN MEDICAL FREMONT 3 I BELIEVE THAT'S UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE A THEIR MIND ABOUT VACCINES.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD FORCE ANYBODY TO BE GETTING ANY KIND OF VACCINE.

I'VE BEEN A HUGE PRO MOW PROPONENT OF THAT.

I'VE BEEN TO RALLIES AGAINST THE MANDATE FROM THE BEGINNING.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT FOREIGN THAT FARES AND THE CONFLICT IN UKRAINE.

WHAT ARE YOUR NOT AS ABOUT THAT?

>> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY, UNITED STATES TAXPAYER MONEY THAT WILL END THE CONFLICT IN THE UKRAINE.

I THINK WHAT'S GOING ON IS HORRIBLE.

I SYMPATHIZE TO THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE, AND I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE LEADERS FROM BOTH RUSSIA AND UKRAINE ARE USING THEIR PEOPLE AS HUMAN SHIELDS.

I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY UNFORTUNATE, THE AMOUNT OF SUFFERING THAT'S GOING ON THERE.

I HATE IT.

BUT IAL REALIZED WE HAVE AN INVASION GOING ON IN OUR OWN COUNTRY.

I REALIZE THERE'S 200,000 VETERANS THAT SLEEP UNDER BRIDGES I EVER SINGLE NIGHT AND YET WE'RE SENDING BILLIONS OVERSEAS.

>> SOY BELIEVE WE SHOULD NOT BE SENDING THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY OVERSEAS TO UKRAINE.

>> I DON'T.

I WOULD LIKE US TO SEE USE.

37 HELP OUR VETERANS FIRST.

>> ON YOU DO YOU BELIEVE VLADIMIR PUTIN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONFLICT?

>> I DO.

I BELIEVE HE IS A BULLY.

I THINK UKRAINE MAY BE HIDING THINGS.

I THINK THERE'S MORE TO THAT STORY THAT WE MIGHT NOT KNOW ALL THE DETAILS ON, BUT AT THE END DAFT THEY'RE BOTH USING THEIR PEOPLE AS HUMAN SHIELDS, AND I HATE SUFFERING.

I DON'T LIKE TO SEE IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY AMOUNT OF TAXPAYER MONEY THAT WE CAN SEND OVER THERE THAT WILL STOP THE CRISIS IN THE UKRAINE.

>> SO IN THE LAST 45 SECOND OR SO I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE VOTERS IN THE 4th CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT AND TELL THEM WHY YOU WANT TO SERVE THEM IN WASHINGTON.

>> HI, MY NAME IS CLAIRE WIRTH AND I'M RUNNING FORE THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS.

I'M THE AMERICA FIRST CANDIDATE IN THIS RACE.

I WANT TO BRING GOD AND MORALS BACK INTO OUR DISTRICT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STANDING UP FOR LIBERTY WITH FIGHTING FOR TOWER CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS AND NEVER BOWING DOWN TO THE RADICAL LEFT.

PLEASE VISIT P. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

JOIN US NEXT MONDAY FOR ANOTHER KENTUCKY TONIGHT WITH MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH CANDIDATES IN THIS YEAR'S RACES.

BILL BRYANT IS AND A TEAM OF WORKING, JOURNALISTS WILL DISCUSS THE NEWS OF THE WEEK ON FRIDAY ON "COMMENT ON KENTUCKY" RIGHT HERE ON KET.

UNTIL I SEE YOU NEXT WEEK, TAKE GOOD CARE.

GOOD NIGHT.