[♪♪] GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO "KENTUCKY TONIGHT."

I'M RENEE SHAW.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

TONIGHT, A PREVIEW OF TOMORROW’S PRIMARY ELECTION.

MOST OF THE ATTENTION HAS BEEN ON THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY FOR GOVERNOR, WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL DANIEL CAMERON AND FORMER UN AMBASSADOR KELLY CRAFT LEADING THE FIELD.

WE WILL SHOW YOU THE RESULTS OF A NEW POLL, IN JUST A MOMENT.

AND WE WILL DISCUSS THAT RACE, AND THE OTHER RACES, WITH OUR PANEL OF VETERAN KENTUCKY POLITICAL OBSERVERS.

OUR GUESTS, IN OUR LEXINGTON STUDIO, ARE: TRES WATSON, A REPUBLICAN POLITICAL CONSULTANT AND FOUNDER OF CAPITOL REINS PR; JONATHAN MILLER, A DEMOCRAT, FORMER KENTUCKY STATE TREASURER AND AN ATTORNEY WITH FROST BROWN TODD; AMY WICKLIFFE, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST AND PARTNER WITH THE MCCARTHY STRATEGIC SOLUTIONS GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FIRM; AND MIKE WARD, DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL CONSULTANT AND A FORMER DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN.

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WELCOME TO ALL OF OUR GUESTS.

WELCOME HAPPY PRIMARY ELECTION EVE.

RIGHT HAND'S WE EXCITED THAT WE'RE HERE.

AND THEN WE START AGAIN YOU GET THROUGH IT AND GET TO ANOTHER CYCLE AND THE VIEWERS ARE READY FOR IT TO BE OVER.

WE'RE GOING TO START IF YOU WATCH "KENTUCKY EDITION" THERE IS A NEW FOX 56TV NEWS POLL WITH EMERSON COLLEGE THAT SHOWS 33% OF SURVEYED REPUBLICAN VOTERS FAVOR DANIEL CAMERON, KELLY CRAFT SLIPPED FROM 24% IN A PREVIOUS POLL TO 18% NOW.

RYAN QUARLES DIPPED FROM 15% TO 13% AND MORE REPUBLICANS SURVEYED KNOW WHO THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR.

UNDECIDES WENT FROM 20% TO 13% AND WE HAVE A SECOND SCREEN THAT HAS Mr. ERIC DETERS MENTIONED ON THERE AS WELL AS MIKE HARMON.

AND DETERS MADE A STRONGER SHOWING THIS TIME AROUND.

TRES WATSON WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE POLL AND DOES THE POLL MATTERS THE ONLY ONE TOMORROW?

>> I WAS HARSH ON THE POLL ON TWITTER YESTERDAY IT'S JOURNALIST MALPRACTICE TO RELEASE THIS POLL.

20% OF KENTUCKIANS ARE VOTED IN EARLY VOTING THE ELECTION IS UNDERWAY YOU DON'T SEE MEDIA OUTLETS RELEASE RESULTS.

ANYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT POLITICS AND ELECTIONS FUNCTION AND THE WAY PEOPLE THINK AND VOTES MOVE NONE OF THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE POLL.

IT IS A BAD SAMPLE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CROSS TABS ABOUT 20% ARE PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 65 WHICH ESPECIALLY AS TURNOUT DROPS, THAT MAKES UP A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTING BASE.

I FIND VERY LITTLE THAT I BELIEVE TO BE FACTUAL IN THIS POLL.

>> Renee: THERE IS NO REDEEMING QUALITIES AMY WICKLIFFE WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK A LOT OF THINGS WILL TRANSPIRE IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHAKE THAT POLYP.

I'VE TALKED TO HAD CAMPAIGNS AND EVERYONE IS FEELING GOOD MOMENTUM WHEN YOU HAVIST CALI LOW TURNOUT IT WILL COME DOWN TO WHOSE BASE IS.

WE ARE UNDER A SEVERE TORNADO WATCH TOMORROW THAT WILL AFFECT TURNOUT AS WELL.

BUT, LOOK, YOU'VE GOT ENDORSEMENTS THAT ARE ROLLING OUT.

GOVERNOR RON DE SANTIS ROLLED OUT AN ENDORSEMENT OF KELLY CRAFT AND RYAN QUARLES IS FEELING GOOD.

THEY ARE ALL FEELING GOOD THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE IT ON WILL THE FIELD.

DANIEL CAMERON HAS TO BE FEELING GOOD AS WELL ALL PUBLIC POLLS HAVE SHOWED HIM WITH A HEALTHY LEAD AND HE IS GOING TO HOPE TO MAINTAIN THAT.

>> DOES ERIC DETERS HAVE A REASON TO BE OPTIMISTIC?

>> I THINK HIS NUMBERS ARE STATIC, HE IS GOING TO GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF VOTE.

WHAT HIS PERCENTAGE ENDS UP BEING I DON'T THINK HE HAS ENOUGH TO MAKE IT UP TO THE TOP TO WIN.

HE IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 8-14% RANGE BUT THAT PERCENTAGE IS BASED ON 20% TURNOUT IT MIGHT BE 8.

BUT I THINK HE CERTAINLY IS GOING TO PLAY A ROLE IN WHO WINS BECAUSE OF TAKING UP THAT CHUNK OF VOTES.

>> KEEP IN MIND, TOO, HIS CAMPAIGN TALKED ABOUT THERE'S NEVER BEEN A NORTHERN KENTUCKY GOVERNOR.

GUESS WHAT THEY MAY SURPRISE US TOMORROW BUT NORTHERN KENTUCKY DOES NOT TURNOUT TO VOTE.

IF THAT IS WHO HE IS RELYING ON TO UP HIS NUMBERS ON THE FINAL DAY, I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.

>> Renee: I WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT POINT WE WONDER IF THERE ARE MORE MOTIVATED VOTERS BECAUSE OF HOW HE PRESENTED HIMSELF MAYBE THE LIBERTY SIDE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

LET'S NOT LEAVE THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE OUT FORMER CONGRESSMAN MIKE WARD WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE POLLS?

AND YOU WOULD SAY WHAT COUNTS IS WHAT HAPPENED ON TUESDAY?

>> WELL, WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR IS THIS IS THE NASTIEST, MOST UNPLEASANT, MOST EXPENSIVE, MOST DIVISIVE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IN HISTORY.

AND THE CLEAR WINNER TOMORROW IS ANDY BESHEAR.

BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BRING A PARTY BACK TOGETHER AND HE IS NOT REPRESENTING AN ELECTORATE IN THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THIS 10% OF REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE TO BE CATERED TO BY DANIEL CAMERON OR WHOEVER THE NOMINEE IS, WHO THINK THAT TEACHERS ARE NOT THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM FOR EXAMPLE IN THAT POLL.

10% OF THE PEOPLE SAID THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TEACHERS WHEN WE KNOW WE'VE GOT TO HIRE MORE TEACHERS AND WE NEED MORE SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS IN LOUISVILLE BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO MOTIVATE THEIR BASE AND THAT TELLS US THE WAY THEY WILL GOVERN I THINK ANDY IS COMING OUT AHEAD TOMORROW.

>> Renee: WHEN ATTORNEY GENERAL DANIEL CAMERON WAS IN THIS STUDIO HE MADE AN APPEAL TO TEACHERS LIKE HE WOULD BE THEIR GUY.

WAS THAT NOT HELPFUL TO HIM WITH THAT SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION?

>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID SITTING HERE ON A KET THAT IS NOT WHAT ALL THOSE CANDIDATES ARE SAYING TO THEIR VOTERS.

BECAUSE THEY KNOW TO SUCCEED WITH THE REPUBLICANS, THEY'VE GOT TO BE THE FARTHEST TO THE RIGHT.

THEY'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT REALLY DON'T HAPPEN IN OUR SCHOOLS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THEY GOT TO CREATE STRONG PEOPLE AND THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING THINGS TO BE AGAINST.

WE NEED TO BE FOR THINGS.

THAT IS THE ADVANTAGE THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE COMING OUT OF TOMORROW.

>> Renee: THE FEDERALIZATION OF THESE RACES AND IT'S NOT JUST THE TOP OF THE TICKET WE'RE SEEING WOKISM BHG A THEME THROUGHOUT THE DOWN BALLOT TALK TO US HOW YOU INTERPRET POLLS DO YOU PUT MUCH STOCK IN THEM AND HOW DO YOU THINK THINGS WILL TURNOUT TOMORROW?

>> WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR I HATED THE LATE CAMPAIGN POLLS THEY ALL SHOWED ME DOWN.

AND I DIDN'T BELIEVE ANY OF THEM.

THE HORSERACE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE IN PLAY AND IT'S WHAT IS MOST INTERESTING.

I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO BE DANIEL CAMERON IF I'M ONE OF THOSE CANDIDATES.

I THOUGHT WHAT WAS MOST INTERESTING ABOUT THE POLL WERE THE ISSUES DISCUSSED.

I WAS FASCINATED THAT AND FRANKLY HORRIFIED THAT 79% OF FOLKS POLLED IN THIS REPUBLICAN PRIMARY DECLARED THAT JOE BIDEN WAS AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT THAT IS 79% SAID THAT.

AND YOU SAW ISSUES ABOUT WOKISM BEING AS MIKE MENTIONED BEING ON THE TOP OF EVERYONE'S AGENDA.

AND HOW IMPORTANT A ROLE DONALD MILLER PLAYS IN ALL THIS THINKING.

AND I AGREE WITH MIKE I THINK IT'S GOING TO PUSH THE LIKELY REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FARTHER TO THE RIGHT TO MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR ANDY TO RUN UP THE MIDDLE.

THE MOST HOPEFUL THING FOR THE BESHEAR CAMPAIGN DESPITE THE FACT WE HAD 79% OF THE FOLKS SAYING WE HAVE AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT THIS IS A MAGA ELECTORATE.

50% SAID THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE WAS THE ECONOMY AND JOBS IT WASN'T WOKISM AND IMMIGRATION THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMY AND JOBS WHICH IS THE STRONG POINT THAT ANDY WILL RUN ON AND WE HAVE NOT SEE ANY OF THE REPUBLICANS TALKING ABOUT IT.

THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WORKISM.

>> .

>> Renee: WHY HAVEN'T THEY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY AND JOBS?

>> THEY HAD.

A LOT OF ADVERTISING IS GEARED TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION I WEATHER APPED THE DEBATE THAT YOU HAD AND RYAN QUARLES AND ALAN KECK TALKED ABOUT IT.

THE WBRB DEBATE THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT TAX POLICIES.

SO I THINK THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, PRIMARIES ARE GUIDED A LOT BY THE BASE VOTERS BECAUSE YOU CAN TALK ALL YOU WANT, IF YOU UNLESS YOU WIN YOU ARE GUY ON A MOUNTAIN YELLING.

SO YOU HAVE TO WIN AND APPEAL TO THOSE VOTERS.

THERE IS A CONCERN YOU END UP LIKE MITT ROMNEY IN 2012 WHERE HE SHUF UNDER PERFECT CIRCUMSTANCES BEING ABLE TO BEAT BARACK OBAMA BUT HE HAD TO GO SO FAR RIGHT HE WAS A WOUNDED CANDIDATE COMING OUT.

>> Renee: DOES THAT WORK THAT WAY IN KENTUCKY?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

WE ARE IN UNCHARTERED WATERS AS FAR AS THE CHANGE IN REGISTRATION AND THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES.

WE ARE IN A NEW ERA AND LEARNING ON OUR FEET.

WE'LL SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT.

BUT I THINK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT JOBS AND THE ECONOMY AND AT THE SAME TIME YOU GOT TO GIVE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL SHOW UP TO VOTE WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR.

INTERNAL POLLING AND MESSAGE TESTING PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING, YOU SEE THAT TRANSLATE INTO ADS.

PEOPLE AREN'T THROWING MONEY AWAY FOR FUN.

THEY ARE MESSAGE TESTING AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE VOTERS AND THAT IS WHAT THE VOTERS WANT TO HEAR.

>> Renee: AND THAT WORKED FOR GLGLENN YOUNGKIN SOME OF THE MESSAGING AND STRATEGY WE SEE THAT BEING ADOPTED IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IF IT WORKED THERE DOES IT WORK IN KENTUCKY?

VIRGINIA IS NOT KENTUCKY.

>> I WANT TO JUMP IN HERE.

I THINK WHAT CANDIDATES ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YES, IS THERE DRAW TO NATIONALIZED ISSUES.

OF COURSE.

BUT ALL OF THE CANDIDATES MOST OF THE CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN OUT TALKING TO VOTERS EXTENSIVELY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

KELLY CRAFT HAD 100 PLUS KITCHEN TABLE TOURS RYAN COMPLETED.

DANIEL CAMERON HAS BEEN TOURING AS WELL THEY ARE HEARING FROM VOTERS WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR IN A GOVERNOR, WHAT ISSUES THEY ARE SCARED OF WHAT ISSUES THEY WANT A GOVERNOR TO TAKE ON.

THERE ARE SIMILARITIES AND ISSUES BECAUSE THEY ARE TALKING TO REAL KENTUCKIANS.

WHILE THIS 500-MEMBER POLL MAY NOT REFLECT THAT I DO THINK ON A BROADER BASE OF KENTUCKY SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE ACTUAL KENTUCKY ISSUES AND YOU HEAR KENTUCKIANS TALKING ABOUT THEM.

EDUCATION WE HAVE HAD OUR CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT EDUCATION IS THEY WILL CONTINUE THE LARGE INVESTMENT THAT THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE HAS DONE WITH INVESTMENT.

SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THE ECONOMY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAX REFORM CONTINUING THE GOOD WORK THAT THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE STARTED ON A PATH TO ZEROING OUT YOUR INCOME TAX LIKE THE CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THE ECONOMY MIXED WITH EDUCATION, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY PUT PARENTS BACK IN CHARGE AND HAVE A LARGER ROLE IN THEIR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING I THINK WE HEAR ABOUT.

>> Renee: ARE THEY USING FEAR AS A MOTIVATING TACTIC?

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S FEAR.

I THI IT'S WHAT PARENTS ARE TALKING TO THE CANDIDATES ABOUT.

AND THEN IT'S THAT CANDIDATE'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO VOICE THAT AND SHARE THAT WITH A LARGER AUDIENCE.

>> Renee: DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S THE CHICKEN BEFORE THE EGG, IF THE CANDIDATE IS TALKING ABOUT WOKISM AND THAT BECOMES A THING PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THEN THAT BECOMES THE THING THAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT?

>> NO, THE EGG IS THE POLLING THEY DID WHEN THEY BEGAN THIS THING AND THEY ARE FOLLOWING THEIR POLLING AND WHEN THEY ARE OUT TALKING AT KITCHEN TABLES WITH EMPTY CHAIRS, THEY ARE ALSO NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS.

DANIEL CAMERON WOULDN'T ANSWER A LOT OF YOUR QUESTIONS THE OTHER NIGHT.

HE DID A GREAT JOB.

HE IS A GOOD CANDIDATE.

BUT WHAT IS HE HIDING FROM?

HE WON'T TELL US WHAT HIS TAX RETURNS HE WON'T SHOW HIS TAX RETURNS.

HE SAID HE WASN'T GOING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR HE SAID IT WHEN HE RAN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND HE TURNS AROUND AND RUNS FOR GOVERNOR.

HIS ARGUMENT WAS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL SHOULDN'T BE AN ADVERSARY OF THE GOVERNOR HE IS SERVING FOR THE PEOPLE.

BUT HE ENDED UP DOING THAT.

BRAGS ON SUING BIDEN 23 TIMES ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW HOW HE COMES UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

HE IS NOT BEING STRAIGHT WITH THE PEOPLE OF KENTUCKY WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT SILLY THINGS.

I KNOW IT'S SCARY FOR PEOPLE IF THEY THINK THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THEIR SCHOOLS BUT SCARIER IS KIDS WHO CANNOT READ AND WRITE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HAVING AND IMPLEMENTING THE CORRECT PRIORITIES.

WITH THE DARK MONEY WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS YET, BUT THE QUESTION OF WHO IS FUNDING THESE ADS FOR DANIEL CAMERON IS VERY IMPORTANT.

A LOT OF THE MONEY ISN'T ATTRIBUTED TO ANYBODY AND THAT THAT IS IS ATTRIBUTED TO PEOPLE IN THE GAMBLING BUSINESS.

THAT'S NOT THE BASE OF HIS PARTY THAT'S WHY HE DOESN'T TAKE THE MONEY DIRECTLY AND MAKES THEM SPEND IT ON THEIR OWN.

AND THEN YOU GET BACK TO THE TAX RETURNS.

IS THERE SOMETHING IN THERE RELATED TO THAT?

DANIEL CAMERON IS GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ANSWERING QUESTIONS MORE THAN HE IS LISTENING TO PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY BELIEVE.

>> Renee: JONATHAN ARE PEOPLE MOTIVATED BY A FACT THAT A CANDIDATE MAY OR MAY NOT RELEASE THE TAX RETURNS?

>> I THINK WE LEARNED IN THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN THEY WEREN'T.

THEY ARE MOTIVATED BY WE'VE TALKED A LOT IN THE CAMPAIGN ABOUT KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES.

THEY ARE MOTIVATED BY KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES.

AND ALL OF THE CANDIDATES ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE HAVE SEEMED TO FOCUS LESS ON THOSE AND MORE ON THE HOT BUTTON ISSUES THAT THAT POLL DEMONSTRATE.

AND THE LEADING ISSUE IS WHEN YOU ASK THE KIDS ABOUT EDUCATION, THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT COMES OUT WHETHER IT'S CAMERON OR CRAFT OR QUARELS WE HAVE TO GET RID OF JASON GLASS, THE KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION COMMISSIONER.

AND WHY?

BECAUSE HE IS WOKE.

WHAT DOES WOKE MEAN?

IN THIS CASE IT'S BECAUSE HE WANTED TO SHOW COMPASSION TO TEENAGE KIDS STRUGGLING WITH THEIR GENDER IDENTITY.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY MOTIVATES THIS BASE THAT IS IN THE PRIMARY.

BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY WILL REALLY DISAPPOINT AND SOME WAYS DISCUSS THE GENERAL ELECTORATE.

I THINK THAT WHEN THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT EDUCATION THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT TEACHER SALARIES, THEY WANT TO HEAR ABOUT MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEIR KIDS.

AND THEY WANT TO CARELESS ABOUT TRYING TO PUNISH SOMEBODY OUT TRYING TO SHOW COMPASSION FOR STRUGGLING KIDS.

>> Renee: WHAT IS THE TRUMP CANDIDATE WHO IS THE REAL TRUMP CANDIDATE?

>> IT'S ERIC DETERS.

>> DANIEL CAMERON HAS THE ENDORSEMENT.

>> AND.

>> AND HE DID THE TELERALLY WHICH I DIALED INTO TO LISTEN.

IT WAS SIX MINUTES IT WAS NOTHING NEW BUT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP TO TELL HIS PEOPLE IN KENTUCKY TO MAKE SURE THEY GET OUT AND VOTE FOR DANIEL.

IN THE POLL WE SAW YESTERDAY YOU STILL SEE THAT KENTUCKY IS HIGHLY FAVORABLE FOR REPUBLICANS FOR TRUMP.

SO I WOULD SAY DANIEL IS THE TRUMP CANDIDATE.

HE IS HOPING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT AND HOPING THAT TURNS OUT FOR HIM.

ERIC DETERS IS TRYING HIS BEST TO BE THE TRUMP CANDIDATE.

HIS CAMPAIGN AND HIS CAMPAIGN STYLE HAS BEEN A LOUD, OBNOXIOUS TRUMP STYLE CAMPAIGN WITH NAME CALLING AND YOU NAME IT.

I THINK AT THE END, DANIEL CAMERON WOULD BE THE TRUMP CANDIDATE HERE.

>> BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IN KENTUCKY, WE JUST DON'T RUN ON NATIONAL ISSUES.

WE ARE NOT AFFECTED AS MUCH IN OUR GOVERNOR'S RACES ON NATIONAL ISSUES.

AND FRANKLY WHEN YOU SAY THAT TRUMP PHONED IN, REMEMBER THE LINE HE PHONED IT IN.

WELL, THAT IS GOING TO BRING NEW MEANING TO THAT BECAUSE I LISTENED TO PART OF THAT CALL DURING OUR MOTHER'S DAY DINNER I'M MAKING AN ADMISSION AGAINST INTERESTS HERE BUT I TOLD THEM I WAS DOING IT.

AND HE LITERALLY JUST PHONED IT IN.

YOU COULD TELL WHEN YOU HEAR HIM JUST LIKE THAT YOU ARE SEEING THE "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" GUY.

ALL I COULD DO WAS IMAGINE HIM LOOKING AT THE LIST AND DOING CRAZY THINGS.

>> BUT HE DID IT.

>> HE DID IT.

>> HE SHOWED UP FOR IT.

CLEARLY, CAMERON IS THE CANDIDATE TO BEAT IN THIS RACE TOMORROW.

>> I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR A LONGTIME AND TALKED TO NATIONAL REPORTERS ABOUT IT AND STATE REPORTERS I THINK THIS IS AN INTERESTING RACE FROM A POLITICAL SCIENCE STANDPOINT THAT YOU ARE OPERATING IN A LABORATORY.

OF BECAUSE YOU HAVE AS CLOSE YOU ARE GOING TO GET TO CONTROL SUBJECTS YOU HAVE CAMERON AND CRAFT TALKING ABOUT VERY NATIONALIZED BROAD 50,000 FOOT VIEW ISSUES.

AND THEN YOU HAVE RYAN QUARLES WHO IS TALKING ABOUT RURAL ROAD FUNDING AND BROADBAND AND TAX POLICIES.

SO THE QUESTION IS, IS TIP O'NEILL STILL ALIVE.

ARE ALL POLITICS LOCAL AND THAT QUESTION IS ON THE BALLOT CAN YOU STILL TALK ABOUT LOCAL ISSUES AND WIN A RACE LIKE THE GOVERNOR.

OR IN THREE YEARS PEOPLE ARE RUNNING FOR COUNTY JUDGE ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE OPINIONS ON THE UKRAINE AND WOKISM AND THE OTHER HUGE BROAD ISSUES THAT PEOPLE IN THAT POSITION CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT.

I THINK IT IS A REAL QUESTION.

>> Renee: BUT THE NEWS SOURCES PERHAPS THE VOTERS ARE LEANING ON THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THERE IS A DIMINISHING LANDSCAPE OF LOCAL MEDIA THAT PEOPLE MAY TRUST SO THEY LOOK TO THE NATIONAL MEDIA FOR THEIR PREFERENCE.

YOU WANT TO JUMP IN ON THAT?

>> I WANT TO AGREE WITH TRES.

I THINK THAT WHEN WE GET TO THIS GENERAL ELECTION PEOPLE WILL BE FOCUSED ON THOSE ISSUES AND RYAN QUARLES HAS BEEN RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN THAT IS MORE SUITED TO THE GENERAL ELECTION.

HE PERHAPS WOULD AMONG THOSE FOLKS BE THE STRONGEST GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT THIS PRIMARY BASE WANTED AND I BELIEVE I'VE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF REPUBLICAN FRIENDS WHO WERE AFRAID THAT ERIC DETERS WAS RICHER.

BECAUSE IF DETERS HAD KELLY CRAFT MONEY BUT HAD A LOT MORE MONEY HE PUT $10 MILLION OR $5 MILLION INTO THE RACE HE COULD BE FORMIDABLE HE COULD HAVE WON THIS THING AND A LOT OF MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS ARE BREATHING A SIGH OF RELIEF THAT HE DIDN'T BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUR DREAM SCENARIO.

>> HIS MESSAGING HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE.

HE IS ONLY ON ADS ON "FOX NEWS" BUT THEY ARE EFFECTIVE ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDERS.

ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERADS.HIS MESSAGING D MOST, THE VOTERS HE IS COMMUNICATING WITH AND THE PEOPLE ARE RECEPTIVE TO.

>> ARE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ERIC DETERS?

WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE ONE OF THE FIRST WEB ADS WAS WALKING THROUGH THE CEMETERY TALKING ABOUT HOW EACH OF THE CANDIDATES DIED.

WHICH IS ABSURD.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TOP THREE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IS HOW QUARELS AND CAMP RIGHT HAND CAME IN WI BIT OF A BUILT IN BASE.

QUARELS ON THE RURAL, AGRICULTURE SIDE, CAMERON WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROSECUTOR SIDE.

WHILE KELLY HAS REALLY HAD TO BUILD HER BASE AS THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE RACE.

>> Renee: WHO IS HER BASE?

>> I THINK IT'S MOMS AND DADS AROUND THE TABLE.

I THINK IT'S PARENTS THAT ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION.

PERHAPS IT'S PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT IF THEY LIKE QUARELS OR CAMERON YET AND SHE IS A NEW FRESH FACE.

I THINK THAT IS AN INTERESTING COMPARISON IN THE TOP THREE IS THAT TWO OF THEM CAME IN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A BUILT IN BASE WHILE ONE HAS HAD TO BUILD THEM.

>> Renee: WHEN SHE HAS TED CRUDS COME IN OR DE SANTIS ENDORSE HER DOUSE IT BUOY HER IN ANYWAY.

>> THE DE SANTIS TRIES TO BE ON THE LEVEL OF THE TRUMP RALLY.

EVERYBODY DECIDED WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE.

BUT IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T HURT AS WE ARE HEADED INTO THE FINAL HOURS.

>> Renee: THIS QUESTION THIS COMES FROM ROBERT COMING FROM JAMESTOWN WHY IS THE PROJECTED TURNOUT A RECORD LOW?

TO WHAT IS THAT ATTRIBUTED.

WE HEARD THE KENTUCKY SECRETARY OF STATE SAY TO GO COULD BE AS LOW AS 10%.

THAT IS DISMAL THERE.

>> IT'S DISAPPOINTING.

>> I THINK PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED FROM POLITICS.

FROM POLITICS IN GENERAL.

FROM TRUMP, BIDEN ADS, EVERYTHING.

I THINK IT'S UNIVERSAL I THINK PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THE YEAR OFF.

IT'S -- >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND GO BACK 2011 WAS 10%.

MAY 2015 WAS 12.5%.

ONLY IN 19 DID WE GET CLOSE TO THE 20% MARK.

WE ARE NOT GREAT AT TURNING OUT IN PRIMARIES IN GENERAL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR ANY OTHER REASON OTHER THAN WE ARE NOT TURNING OUT IN GENERAL.

>> AND THESE CANDIDATES CERTAINLY AREN'T BRINGING THEM OUT.

I MEAN MORE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT IN THE HISTORY OF REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES.

BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT, KELLY CRAFT ENTERED THIS RACE WITH NO CONSTITUENCY.

AND AFTER 15 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IT WILL END UP BEING, SHE HADN'T BUILT A CONSTITUENCY.

>> I DISAGREE WITH THAT.

>> APPARENTLY NOT ENOUGH SHE'S GETTING BEAT TWO TO ONE IN THE POLL WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR NOT IT'S SOMEWHAT REFLECTIVE.

AND YOU WILL END UP WITH A REPUBLICAN NOMINEE WHO IS SUPPORTED IN THE ELECTION BY WHAT TURNS OUT TO BE ABOUT 5 TO 8% OF ALL THE REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE.

SO THAT'S NOT A WAY TO GO INTO NOVEMBER BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO ABOUT THEIR KIDS' EDUCATION, ARE YOU GOING TO BE LIKE ANDY BESHEAR THE LOWEST PRESIDING OVER THE STATE WITH THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN HISTORY.

CREATING JOBS LEFT AND RIGHT.

LET ME FINISH THE SENTENCE.

SHOWING THAT THERE IS NO DEMOCRAT TORNADO THERE IS NO REPUBLICAN FLOOD, THEY ARE KENTUCKIANS WHO ARE IN TROUBLE.

YOU KNOW HE DIDN'T LOOK HOW THOSE COUNTIES VOTED WHEN HE WENT TO HELP THEM.

AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE WANTING THEY ARE NOT WANTING THIS CRUD ABOUT WORKISM.

>> AND PEOPLE ARE OFTEN MOTIVATED TO THE POLLS BY ANGER.

THE ELECTIONS WHERE THEY ARE THE HIGHEST TURNOUT IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE REALLY ANGRY AT THE OTHER SIDE AND ARE MOTIVATED TO TRY TO DEFEAT THAT PERSON.

AND ANDY BESHEAR HAS DONE A BRILLIANT JOB OF APPEALING TO ALL KENTUCKIANS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.

NOW, CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO BE A TIGHT GENERAL ELECTION.

AND MAKE NO MISTAKE THIS IS A RED STATE.

BUT ANDY BESHEAR HAS DONE THE JOB THAT DOES NOT PROVOKE A LOT OF ANGER AMONG THE CANDIDATES AMONG THE POPULATION AND THAT IS WHY YOU'VE SEEN A FOCUS ON THESE FEDERAL ISSUES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNOR BESHEAR'S LEADERSHIP.

>> RICHARD NELSON THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMONWEALTH POLICY INSTITUTE HAD AN ARTICLE ABOUT CHARACTER MATTERS AND TALKING ABOUT A GOVERNOR THAT HAS BEEN A CRISIS GOVERNOR, HE CARRIED HIMSELF WITH LEVEL OF DEMEANOR WORTHY OF THE OFFICE.

SO HOW MUCH DOES CHARACTER REALLY MATTER OVER ISSUES?

AND DOES WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE OF HIGH CHARACTER OR PERCEIVED HIGH CHARACTER DOES IT CROSS ALL THE LINES WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS AN R OR A D?

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO APPROVAL RATINGS BUT WHEN IT COMES TO WHO ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR, THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT GOES INTO IT.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT STUFF THAT ANDY BESHEAR HAS DONE.

NOBODY HAS PUSHED BACK ON [INAUDIBLE] THERE IS A REAL STORY TO BE WRITTEN.

>> UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE.

>> UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE.

THE BULLDOZING AND REMOVAL OF DEBRIS FROM HOUSES IN EAST KENTUCKY.

THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM THERE IS A HUGE STORY YOU CAN WRITE AND ONE STRING ROLLS THROUGH ALL OF IT IS ANDY BESHEAR IS A WEAK LEADER.

HE CANNOT CONTROL PEOPLE.

STUFF IS HAPPENING AS GOVERNOR THAT HE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT OR CAN'T CONTROL.

I THINK IF REPUBLICANS CAN MESSAGE THAT AND SPEND IT IN HIGH ENOUGH VOLUMES I THINK THAT YOU WILL BE SURPRISED HOW QUICKLY YOU CAN BRING THE INTEREST HERE IS NUMBERS DOWN.

>> WHY DIDN'T THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE WE KNOW KELLY CRAFT WAS GOING AFTER ANDY BESHEAR WHY DON'T THEY BRING UP THE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE DEBACLE THERE ARE AREAS EVEN THE BOTCHED DEBRIS CLEAN UP IN EASTERN KENTUCKY AND THE SCHOOL CLOSURES AND CHURCHES NOT BEING OPEN ON EASTER.

THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED WE DID NOT HEAR.

>> THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE PRIMARY.

IF YOU ARE NOT THE NOMINEE NONE OF IT MATTERS THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY CAN DO TO GET THROUGH THE PRIMARY.

>> Renee: AND YOU PICK ON ONE THING AND HAMMER ON THAT ONE THING.

>> THE ENTIRE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS.

>> REMEMBER ANOTHER PROBLEM THEY MIGHT HAVE ON BEATING AND UP ON ANDY BESHEAR THEY HAVE TO STICK SOMEWHAT TO THE TRUTH.

AND HE HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE GOVERNOR.

>> EVERYTHING I SAID IS FACTUAL.

>> THE STATE GOVERNMENT IS HUGE.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT HAPPEN BUT OVERALL FOR THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.

>> LET'S BACK UP TO THAT.

ONE OF THE WORKFORCE WORKFORCE PARTICIPATION RATES IN HISTORY.

THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS LOW BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR WORK.

>> THAT IS A REPUBLICAN -- >> THERE'S AND THAT STATISTIC IS NOT FACTUAL.

>> HE IS BREAKING GROUND ON A PLANT NEAR E TOWN THAT IS GOING TO MAKE KENTUCKY.

>> THANK YOU TO THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE.

>> RIGHT TO WORK.

>> THE AUTOMOBILE BATTERY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, HE IS SHOWING THAT HE CAN GET THINGS DONE.

WHEN HE DEALS WITH FORD MOTOR COMPANY ONE OF THE LARGEST CORPORATIONS IN AMERICA AND ONE OF OUR BEST EMPLOYERS BACK TO THE MODEL T BEING BUILT IN LOUISVILLE HE IS SHOWING HE GETS THIGHS THINGS DONE.

DANIEL CAMERON, AGAIN, CAME INTO OFFICE SAYING HE WASN'T GOING TO FIGHT THE GOVERNOR JUST FOR THE SAKE OF RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

NOT TRUE.

THEN, HE DOESN'T TAKE AFTER THE PREVIOUS GOVERNOR AND THE THINGS HE DID WHEN THE PARDON SCANDAL AS HE LEFT OFFICE.

HE DID DO ONE THING HE HIRED FORMER GOVERNOR BEVIN'S LAWYER MEREDITH.

I MEAN THAT'S THE PROBLEM YOU'VE GOT IS THAT ANDY IS IN GOOD SHAPE HE IS GOING TO STAY IN GOOD SHAPE AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT GOING TO BOTHER TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT IS WHAT THE CASE IS.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO BOTHER TO VOTE?

DO THE DEMOCRATS KNOW.

>> YOU DO HAVE A PRIMARY.

>> LET'S REMIND PEOPLE THERE IS -- [ALL TALKING AT ONCE] >> Renee: LET'S BRING UP THAT GRAPHIC IF YOU WILL TO SHOW THAT THE GOVERNOR DOES HAVE A PRIMARY TOMORROW.

AND THERE ARE SOME FAMILIAR FACES WITH WHOM HE IS BEING PITTED AGAINST.

WE HAVE PEPPY MARTIN WHO ONCE RAN AS A REPUBLICAN AND JEFF YOUNG RAN AS A REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT AND INDEPENDENT.

BESHEAR IS EXPECTED TO FAR AND ABOVE COME OUT AHEAD.

>> ANGER IS THE BEST MOTIVATOR IN TURNOUT.

AND SO IF YOU ARE REALLY HAPPY WITH ANDY BESHEAR YOU ARE NOT LIKE RUSHING TO THE POLLS TO VOTE FOR HIM.

IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT AND MAD AT HIM YOU WILL SHOW UP TO VOTE.

I WILL POSE THIS WHAT DO YOU THINK THE EFFECT IT HAS ON BESHEAR IF HE POSTS 70% AGAINST THESE TWO CANDIDATES?

>> I DON'T ANYBODY REALLY IS GOING TO PAY ATTENTION OR CARE.

I THINK THEY VIEW THIS PRIMARY AS OVER AND DONE AND HE'S UNITED THE PARTY AND UNITED INDEPENDENTS AND IS BRINGING ALONG A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS AS WELL.

>> Renee: WHAT IF A REPUBLICAN NOMINEE CRACKS 30%?

LESS THAN 20%?

>> WITH WE HAD 12 CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT SOMETHING IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN WITH A LOW PERCENTAGE THAT WILL WIN.

LET ME FINISH.

BUT WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE REPUBLICAN EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN ALL 12 OF THEM GOT INTO THE RACE WITH ONE IDEA IN MIND.

HOW TO BEAT ANDY BESHEAR?

NOVEMBER.

WE WILL SEE REPUBLICANS COME BACK TOGETHER AFTER THE PRIMARY.

I'M SAY TO GO NOW.

>> Renee: DO YOU HAVE PROOF OF THAT AMY WICKLIFFE?

>> I DO NOT HAVE PROOF BUT THE KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE RACE THAT I THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC WOULD THINK THEY WILL NEVER COME TOGETHER.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY WILL SET THEIR PERSONAL FEELINGS ASIDE AND WORK FOR THE LARGER GOOD.

>> Renee: AND CAMPAIGN FOR THE ONE WHO IS NOT THE NOMINEE.

NOT JUST SHOW UP AT THE UNITY RALLY.

>> I BELIEVE WHAT WILL BE MISSING AT THAT UNITY RALLY SATURDAY AFTER THE PRIMARY THE LONG TRADITION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAVING AN EVENT AT THEIR HEADQUARTERS THAT BIG PHARMA PAYS FOR.

IT WAS TOO EASY.

>> THE ONES THAT ANDY BESHEAR USED TO REPRESENT AS A LAWYER?

>> THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW UP AND HERE IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE MISSING MAYBE NOT IN-PERSON BUT IN THE LONG-TERM HISTORY OF KENTUCKY REPUBLICAN POLITICS, MITCH McCONNELL AS A UNIFIER.

THINK OF HIS ABILITY OVER THE YEARS EVEN WHEN BEVIN WON.

HE WILL BE THERE BUT IT WON'T BE THE SAME MITCH McCONNELL.

HECK, RIGHT.

>> Renee: WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?

>> ANDY BESHEAR IS MORE POPULAR WITH REPUBLICANS THAN MITCH McCONNELL IS NOW IT IS A C CHANGE HE STOOD UP WITH MATT BEVIN WHEN MATT BEAT THE AESTABLISHMENT AND THEY CAME TOGETHER I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW HE CAN DO THAT THIS YEAR.

ESPECIALLY WITH THIS BIGGER FISH TO FRY.

>> I BET ON MITCH McCONNELL ALL DAY LONG.

>> Renee: YOU DID HAVE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES TRY TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES AGAINST MITCH McCONNELL.

WHAT IF THAT CANDIDATE ENDS UP WINNING TOMORROW?

>> I THINK ALL MITCH McCONNELL CARES ABOUT IS HAVING THE BEST CANDIDATE TO WIN IN NOVEMBER.

I WORKED ON THE 07 CAMPAIGN WHICH WAS ACRIMONIOUS.

THIS WAS NOT THE DIRTIEST CAMPAIGN IN RECENT REPUBLICAN PRIMARY HISTORY IT WAS 2007 THAT WAS THE DIRTIEST MEANEST AND NASTIEST.

AND THERE WAS LITTLE UNITY AFTER THAT ONE.

I WAS THE ONLY STAFFER FOR THE LOSING CAMPAIGNS TO SHOW UP AT THE UNITY RALLY.

I DON'T SEE THAT LEVEL OF ACRIMONY.

ALL OF THE CANDIDATES LIKE EACH OTHER BEHIND THE SCENES AND I THINK THEY WILL COME BACK TOGETHER AND WHOEVER WINS THEY WILL BACK HIM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE ANDY BESHEAR BEATEN.

>> I DON'T THINK THE VOTERS CARE ABOUT ANYTHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

>> Renee: WHAT DO THEY CARE ABOUT?

>> THEY CARE ABOUT JOBS AND THE ECONOMY AND ALL THE GOOD JOBS THAT ANDY BESHEAR BROUGHT TO THE STATE.

THEY CARE ABOUT EDUCATION AND MAKING SURE OUR TEACHERS ARE PAID ADEQUATELY AND OUR STUDENTS GETTING ADEQUATE INSTRUCTION AND THEY CARE ABOUT A GOVERNOR HAVING COMPASSION FOR THEM.

THIS IS NOT A FEDERAL RACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE MORE FOCUS ON THE PARTY.

THEY ARE FOCUSED ON A GOVERNOR THAT THEY CAN PERSONALLY IDENTIFY WITH.

AND EVEN CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS ADMIRE THE WORK THAT ANDY BESHEAR HAS DONE PARTICULARLY WITH ALL THE DISASTERS HOW HE UNIFIED THE STATE.

EVEN IF THEY DISAGREE WITH COVID ACTIONS THEY KNEW HE IS COMING FROM A PLACE OF FAITH AND COMPASSION.

AND I THINK ULTIMATELY, AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE A CLOSE RACE.

BUT I THINK IT'S THE PERSONALITY AND THE POLICY AND THE VERY STRONG LEADERSHIP THAT ANDY BESHEAR HAS SHOWN THAT WILL SAVE THE DAY.

>> I AGREE ON THE PERSONALITY.

PEOPLE WANT TO GENUINELY LIKE THEIR GOVERNOR.

THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO WALK INTO A ROOM, TO SHAKE THEIR HAND AND FEEL LIKE GOSH THAT PERSON'S KNOWN ME ALL MY LIFE.

THEY WANT TO LIKE THEIR GOVERNOR.

I THINK THAT IS WHY WE SAW MATT BEVIN LOSE PREVIOUSLY.

PEOPLE HAD HAD ENOUGH OF MATT BEVIN.

GOING FORWARD WHOEVER THAT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IS, THEY ARE GOING TO NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE OUT THERE TO MAKE THOSE VOTERS FEEL COMFORTABLE TO GET IN AS MANY HOUSEHOLDS AS THEY CAN.

BUT PERSONALITY ALONG WITH THE ISSUES BUT KENTUCKIANS WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY I LIKE THAT GUY.

>> Renee: OR HAVE A BEER WITH THE GUY.

>> AND GOVERNOR'S UNIQUE BEYOND THE U.S. SENATE, I THINK SENATE IS AND EVEN CONGRESS YOU COULD SPEAK TO THIS BETTER THAN ANYBODY, I THINK THE DC JOBS THEY FEEL YOU ARE A NEBULOUS BEING THEY READ ABOUT IN THE PAPER.

GOVERNOR THEY EXPECT TO SEE YOU.

THEY EXPECT TO BE IN CLOSE RELATIONSHIP EITHER PHYSICALLY OR PERSONALLY WITH THEIR GOVERNOR AND CANDIDATES.

I THINK THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP VOTERS HAVE WITH THE GOVERNOR THAN ANY OTHER OFFICE.

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE AND YOU KNOW YOU HEAR IT FIRST, TRES WATSON IS 100% RIGHT.

>> Renee: THAT HAPPENED IN 22 MINUTES AND 35 SECONDS LEFT IN THE SHOW.

>> WHY ANDY BESHEAR CAN DEFY THE PARTISAN ODDS OF THE STATE BECAUSE HE HAS MADE THAT CONNECTION WITH THE PUBLIC.

EVEN IF THEY MIGHT DISAGREE ON ABORTION THEY MIGHT THINK HE IS TOO WOKE, THAT THEY LIKE HIM HE PROVIDES THAT LEADERSHIP THAT UNIFYING THE COUNTRY AND THEY WANT TO KEEP HIM IN THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.

>> Renee: THIS IS FROM RALPH FROM JEFFERSON COUNTY HOW MANY LIES WERE SAVED DURING THE TIME WHEN CHURCHES WERE CLOSED AND HOW MANY WERE SAVED WHEN THEY REOPENED.

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHURCHES IN PARTICULAR.

BUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT ANDY BESHEAR SAVED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IF NOT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLES LIVES BY HIS STRENGTH DURING COVID.

>> I THINK HIS LEADERSHIP STYLE EXACERBATED THE SITUATION WILL LONGER IT WENT.

I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE THAT HE DIDN'T -- WE WERE DEALING WITH UNKNOWNS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS.

HOWEVER, HE I TALKED TO COUNTY JUDGES AND MAGISTRATES WHO WANTED INPUT ON THE PROCESS.

LIKE I TALKED TO ONE COUNTY JUDGE WHO SAID I SAT HERE IN A DRIVE-THRU AND LOOKED OUT AND I SAW PEOPLE CARRYING A MATTRESS OUT OF A WALMART AND IN THE PARKING LOT WAS A FURNITURE STORE NOT ALLOWED TO BE OPEN.

THERE WAS LITTLE ATTEMPT TO GET INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND.

IT WAS SILOED, DECISION MAKER OF ONE FROM ANDY BESHEAR AND GOING BACK TO WHERE I THINK THE ARGUMENT TO BE MADE AGAINST HIM IS LEADERSHIP AND LEADERSHIP STYLE HE DIDN'T WANT TO COLLABORATE WHETHER IT WAS WITH THE LEGISLATURE OR THE PARTY IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

AND I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO SEE I DON'T THINK ATTACKING HIS EARLY COVID RESPONSE IS A WINNING STRATEGY.

I THINK ATTACKING THE LENGTH OF TIME WE WERE ONE OF THE LAST STATES TO REOPEN OUR SCHOOLS.

CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK OPENED BEFORE US AND WHAT HE DID TO THE MOM AND POP COMPANIES.

YOU WILL HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT IN THE CAMPAIGN THROUGH THE FALL REGARD BUILDING WHO THE NOMINEE IS.

>> Renee: SHIFTING BACK TO THE G.O.P.

PRIMARY, PETE COUNTRY MAN ASKED IF WOULD BE IN THE INTEREST OF KENTUCKY AND THE STATE G.O.P.

TO HAVE A CENTRIST TICKET FEATURING DANIEL CAMERON AND RYAN QUARLES IN THE FALL.

ANY HINT WHO MIGHT TEAM UP.

>> THAT IS A GOOD POINT TO MAKE.

THIS IS A CAMPAIGN OF FIRSTS RIGHT IN OUR PRIMARY.

THIS IS THE FIRST PRIMARY FOR IN A GUBERNATORIAL SEASON WHERE CANDIDATES HAVE NOT HAD TO CHOOSE THEIR RUNNING MATE UNTIL AUGUST.

AND A LONGTIME.

SO THE CRAFT CAMPAIGN TOOK A DIFFERENT TACK AND CHOSE MAX WISE WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL TO THEM BUT IT'S ALLOWED PERHAPS QUARELS AND CAMERON TO SEE HOW EVERYBODY DOES ON ELECTION NIGHT AND WHO MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO PICK UP AS A RUNNING MATE.

>> THERE IS A LOT OF RUMORS ABOUT A CAMERON QUARELS TICKET.

WHERE I DISAGREE WITH YOUR CALLER OR E-MAILER IS THAT IT IS A CENTRIST TICKET.

DANIEL CAMERON HAS TIED HIMSELF CLOSELY TO THE MAGA CONSTITUENCY IN ORDER TO WIN THIS.

>> Renee: AND YOU MENTIONED THAT RYAN QUARLES HAS A MORE MODERATOR TYPE TONE.

>> AND ALAN KECK MORE TO THAT DEGREE.

BUT I THINK THAT WHOEVER THE NOMINEE IS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DANIEL CAMERON HAS MOVED SO FAR TO THE RIGHT IT IS GOING TO HELP PROVIDE MORE OF AN OPENING FOR A CENTRIST CANDIDATE AND ANDY BESHEAR TO WIN THE ELECTION.

RYAN QUARLES IS AN INCREDIBLE ASSET HE HAS 230 ENDORSEMENTS FROM LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS LIKE JUST ADD WATER, INSTANT GRASSROOTS.

IF YOU ADD HIM TO THE TICKET.

THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR?

WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE OFFICE?

THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THERE HAS TO BE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS THE ROLE?

YOU SAW ANDY BESHEAR AND JACQUELINE COLEMAN INVOLVED IN THE ADMINISTRATION.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN DISCUSSIONS LIKE THAT THERE HAS TO BE CONVERSATIONS AS TO HOW IT WORKS.

BECAUSE THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IS NOT WHAT YOU CALL A HOT STEPPING STONE HERE IN THE STATE OF KENTUCKY.

>> Renee: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CANDIDATES HOW THEY PRESENTED THEMSELVES AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS COULD BE AN EXERCISE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE.

HOW MUCH MONEY KELLY CRAFT WILL HAVE SPENT.

AND TALK ABOUT THE FEDERALIZATION OR NATURALIZATION OF THESE RACES AND THE ENDORSEMENTS.

WHAT KIND OF TEMPLATE DOES THIS PROVIDE FOR GUT GUBERNATORIAL CAMPAIGNS?

>> I THINK THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION.

THE WAY THAT RYAN QUARLES IS RUNNING, THE LAST ACTIVE PERSON WITH AN ACTIVE FARM WHO BECAME GOVERNOR WAS WILKINSON AND IT IS A SIMILAR PATH THAT RYAN IS TRYING TO PULL.

IS REALLY REACHING OUT AND A LOT OF TOUCHES AND CONTACT WITH GRASSROOTS WITH YOUR COUNTY JUDGES YOUR CLERKS YOUR MAGISTRATES.

AND THEN TRYING TO SNEAK THAT PATH UP BETWEEN TWO CANDIDATES THAT HAVE GOTTEN NASTY IN THE ADS.

>> Renee: SO THERE IS A PATH FOR VICTORY FOR RYAN QUARLES?

>> I THINK SO.

>> I THINK AT THIS POINT ANYTHING IS FAIR GAME AS WE SIT HERE WITH 10% TURNOUT MAYBE LOWER TOMORROW DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OF THOSE TOP THREE TO COME OUT ON TOP TOMORROW NIGHT.

>> .

>> ESPECIALLY IF THE WEATHER IS BAD IT HELPS RYAN.

INCREASES TURNOUT IN RURAL AREAS BECAUSE THE FARMERS ARE NOT IN THE FIELD.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANNING ON VOTING ARE PRETTY DEPRESSED.

>> I DON'T SEE THIS AS A TEMPLATE FOR FUTURE ELECTIONS.

IT'S DEPRESSING BUT WE ARE IN THE TRUMP FEVER RIGHT NOW.

AND DANIEL CAMERON'S BIGGEST ASSET AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE POLL 50% OF THE FOLKS SAID THAT DONALD TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENT MATTERS.

79% THAT JOE BIDEN IS AN ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT.

DONALD TRUMP IS DRIVING THE TRAIN I'M HOPEFUL THAT FEVER BREAKS BEFORE 2024 BUT AT SOME POINT IT WILL.

AND I THINK WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THIS ELECTION DOWN THE ROAD AND SAYING THAT WAS A TRUMP ELECTION AND NOTHING WE CAN MODEL OURSELVES AFTER.

>> WHAT I SEE IT'S DISSOLVING THE GLUE THAT IS KENTUCKY.

I DON'T THINK THE ROTARY OR LYONS ON QUANTITIES CLUB IN RURAL KEN SCENE GOING TO BE MORE THAN STILL A CORNER IN MCDONALD'S.

THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO THOSE COMMUNITY SERVICES ARE SO TURNED OFF BY THIS DEPRESSING ELECTION.

>> LET ME ASK YOU, MIKE AND JONATHAN, TOO, I THINK YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW IT'S A DEPRESSING ELECTION AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE OF THE MUD SLINGING WE'VE SEEN ON TV.

HAVE YOU RUN COMPLETELY CLEAN CAMPAIGNS OVER THE YEARS ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE?

AND I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE THAT.

>> JONATHAN HAS.

>> I'M NOT CONDONING THAT BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK THE 07 PRIMARY WHEN LUNSFORD WAS IN THE RACE.

THERE WERE PLENTY OF ATTENTION DEFICIT HYPERACTIVITY DISORDERS THE DARK MONEY YOU TRIED TO HIT US ON IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE DARK MONEY FROM THE DEMOCRAT SIDE ROLLING IN FOR THE NOVEMBER CAMPAIGN, GREAT.

BUT I'M SURE WE WILL SEE IT HAPPENS.

>> BUT YOU WILL KNOW WHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM AND IT WON'T BE AN ECONOMIC.

>> I WILL MARK YOUR WORDS ON THAT.

I CANNOT WAIT.

I CANNOT WAIT.

>> Renee: 15 MINUTES BEFORE THE END OF THE SHOW.

THIS QUESTION AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT DOWN BALLOT IN THE 15 MINUTES REMAINING.

HOW DOES THE GOVERNOR'S RACE AFFECT THE DOWN BALLOT RACES?

>> I DON'T THINK IT DOES MUCH IN THE PRIMARIES IN THE GENERAL ELECTION IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO.

IN THE PRIMARIES YOU ARE STANDING ON YOUR OWN.

>> Renee: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DOWN BALLOT.

ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT WILL BE A MATCHUP FOR NOVEMBER WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT TOMORROW NIGHT THAT IS GOING TO GIVE YOU INCENTIVE TO WATCH US TOMORROW NIGHT.

AND THE COMMISSIONER OF AG RACE.

THIS IS INTERESTING.

>> COW FARTS.

>> I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THE DAY SORRY MOM YOU DID RAISE ME BETTER THAN THAT.

>> IT IS A AD BUT TALK ABOUT A RACE THAT IS INTERESTING TO WATCH AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS RACE EVERYBODY GAVE JONATHAN SHELL THE EDGE.

HE HAS BEEN A FUNDRAISER ALL OF HIS CAMPAIGN LIFE.

HE CAME OFF OF THE McCONNELL CAMPAIGN CHAIR HE WAS ABLE TO BUILD THAT NETWORK BUT NEVER COUNT RICHARD HEATH OUT HE CAME CLOSE TO RYAN QUARLES RYE IN THE LAST WIFE.

HE AND HIS WIFE ARE HARD WORKERS ACROSS THE STATE.

THE MOMENT RICHARD HEATH CAME OUT ON THE PUNCH ON SHELL AND SHELL PUNCHED BACK WE THOUGHT WE HAVE A RACE ON OUR HANDS.

>> .

>> THE RACE BETWEEN QUARELS AND HEATH WAS TIGHT.

BUT I THINK SHELL STARTING OFF THE CAMPAIGN WITH HIGHER STATE-WIDE NAME ID THAN QUARELS DID IN 15.

I LOVE RICHARD HEATH HE IS A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE BUT HE HASN'T DONE A TON TO RAISE HIS PROFILE BEYOND THE PRIMARY IN 2015.

I THINK I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF RICHARD HEATH PULLS UP THERE I THINK JONATHAN SHELL SHOULD MOVE ON IN THE FALL.

>> Renee: THE DEMOCRAT THERER IS YEAH ENLOW, YOU WANT TO COMMENT.

>> ME IS IN GREAT SHAPE HER OPPONENT DIDN'T QUALIFY TO BE ON KET.

SO OBVIOUSLY NOT MUCH OF A CAMPAIGN.

BUT SHE IS A TRUE RURAL KENTUCKIANS FROM HODGE ENVILLE IS COMMITTED TO AGRICULTURE GREW UP IN A 4H CLIMATE.

SHE IS FUTURE FARMERS OF AMERICA CLIMATE.

AND WILL BE JUST THE KIND OF CANDIDATE WHO WILL HELP THE TICKET.

BUT LET'S DON'T KID OURSELVES IT'S THE TOP OF THE TICKET THAT CARRIES THE DAY.

HEATHER FRENCH HENRY RAN A FEW POINTS BEHIND THE GOVERNOR BUT THAT WAS WAS A FEW TOO MANY IN THE 5,000 VOTE MARGIN FOR THE GOVERNOR.

>> Renee: TREASURER RACE THIS IS THE FIRST APPEARANCES ON "KENTUCKY TONIGHT" BUT WHEN WE HAD THE REPUBLICANS ON IT WAS AN INTERESTING 42 MINUTES WITHDREW DREW, O.J.

OLEKA AND MARK METCALF.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SET OF CREDIT KREDS.

>> MARK METCALF HAS BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES HAVING WORKED ON THE FLETCHER CAMPAIGNS YEARS AGO I THINK HE RAN AGAINST EARN ANY FLETCHER BACK IN THE DAY AND THE GARRET COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR MANY YEARS THAT NAME WILL BE FAMILIAR TO SOME BUT NOT AS -- >> COOPER RIDER PEOPLE WILL KNOW HIM BUT THE COOPERRODER BASE IS A VERY NARROW BASE.

I TALKED TO PEOPLE IN NORTHERN KENTUCKY AND EVERY TIME YOU SEE A COOPERRODER SIGN YOU ARE LIKELY SEEING A IN NIPPER SIGN.

AND OJ KNOWS THAT TREASURER'S OFFICE INSIDE AND OUT.

HE IS.

>> Renee: DOES THAT MATTER?

>> I THINK IT MATTERS TO SOME.

BUT.

>> Renee: DOES IT MATTER TO THE 10% THAT WILL SHOW UP TOMORROW?

>> THAT IS WHAT WE'LL SEE TOMORROW.

>> I THINK WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IF COOPERRODER AND NIPPER IF THEY HAD BEEN BETTER FUNDED LOOKING BACK AT THE POLLING DATA THEY COULD HAVE DONE BEEN VERY SERIOUS OPPONENTS.

COOPERRODER SPENT HIS LIMITED FUNDS ATTACKED O.J.

OLEKA THAT YOU DO NOT DO WHEN YOU HAVE LIMITED FUNDS.

THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT I DO ADMIRE MARK METCALF'S CAMPAIGN.

IF YOU REMEMBER I WAS GEORGE W. BUSH'S BIGGEST NIGHTMARE.

AND MARK METCALF IS JOE BIDEN'S BIGGEST NIGHTMARE.

>> IT'S INTERESTING HOW THE DOWN BALLOT RACES STARTED TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR OFFICE.

SO I FIND THAT FASCINATING.

>> Renee: WAS WAS THAT?

>> I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE THE POWERS AS TREASURIES.

>> SECOND AMENDMENT AND A LOT OF ISSUES.

WHEN THEY APPEARED ON KET THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO BUT THOSE OF US AT HOME THAT IS NOT AT ALL WHAT THE TREASURE'S OFFICE DOES.

THAT IS WHY EXPERIENCE MATTERS KNOWING WHAT YOUR ROLE IS AS TREASURER.

>> Renee: DO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE ROLE OF TREASURER IS?

>> NO.

>> OF COURSE NOT.

>> WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

>> THEY DID IN A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL TIME.

>> AND THER ROW BYGONE.

>> PEOPLE LIKE ALLISON BALL SHE HAS ENDORSED O.J.

OLEKA FOR THAT OFFICE.

AND SO HOPEFULLY SOME OF THAT WOULD CARRY OVER FOR OJ I KNOW.

BUT, AGAIN, IF YOU ASK THE AVERAGE PERSON WHO THE STATE TREASURER DOES.

>> Renee: UNCLAIMED PROPERTY MAYBE.

>> IT SHOWS YOU THE DIRE STRAITS THE REPUBLICANS ARE IN.

WHEN THE ADS ARE ABOUT THE NATIONAL ISSUES THAT -- THOSE ARE THE REPUBLICAN ADS.

WHEN YOU SAY THAT THE PARTY HAS ALLISON BALL AND THE PARTY MAYBE LARGELY BEHIND O.J.

OLEKA, AND HE'S NOT THE CLEAR WINNER IT'S BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS COME DOWN TO THIS BASE THAT IS AGAIN DEPRESSING TURNOUT AND DEPRESSING ME.

IT'S JUST A BAD FOR KENTUCKY.

>> THIS RACE UP UNTIL ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS AGO I THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE COOPERRODER AND O.J.

OLEKA AND PEOPLE WERE TELLING ME IN THAT CAN THEY PULL THIS OUT?

AND THAT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING TALKING TO PEOPLE.

>> Renee: HE IS THE TRUMP REPUBLICAN.

IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

>> THEY CLAIM TO BE.

>> Renee: CLAIMS TO BE.

>> I HAVE NOT SEEN IT IN ADS I GET TEXTS FROM THE CAMPAIGN TEXTS AND IT'S ALL GENERIC G.O.P.

PRIMARY MESSAGING.

BUT THAT IS THE ONE WHERE I THINK IF THERE IS AN UPSET -- FILING DAY SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T THINK MIGHT HAVE A SHOT I THINK CAN BE METCALF PULLING AN UPSET.

>> HE FILED LATE LIKE ON THE DEADLINE.

>> SECRETARY OF STATE THIS IS ONE WE'RE GOING TO GET TO.

SECRETARY MICHAEL ADAMS HAS A RACE ON HIS HANDS AND HE SAID I COULD LOSE THIS THING.

YOU ARE SEEING WHO IS UP AGAINST, STE STEVE ALAN MIRACLEL US ABOUT THE DYNAMIC VIEWS ON THIS RACE AND ELECTION REFORM MIGHT COME BACK TO BITE SECRETARY ADAMS?

>> I THINK IF YOU LIKE EARLY VOTING WHICH I PERSONALLY LOVED IT, IF YOU LIKE THE EXPANSION OF ABSENTEE AND THE MODERNIZATION OF OUR VOTING SYSTEM AND MAINTAINING THE IMPROVING THE INTEGRITY OF OUR VOTING SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO THANK MICHAEL ADAMS AND THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS OPPONENTS, MICHAEL ADAMS HAS BEEN OPEN ABOUT HOW REPUBLICANS HAVE A CHOICE IN THIS PRIMARY.

CAN YOU VOTE TO FURTHER THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS OR CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK HIS OFFICE HAS DONE.

ALAN MIRACLE HAS A PAST OF HIS OWN I WILL NOT GET INTO THAT.

YES IT COMES DOWN TO TURNOUT OF WHO COMES OUT.

>> Renee: GOING BACK TO THE FOX 56 EMERSON POLL 79%.

>> IF NIPPER HAD THE MONEY HE WOULD BE IN THE POSITION.

>> IF THERE'S ONE CRACKPOT IN THE RACE IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE HOPE YOU GOT TWO.

>> IF HE DOES PULL IT OUT THAT DOES OPENS IT UP FOR [INAUDIBLE] IT IS A TOUGH RACE TO BE IN THE MINORITY PARTY IN A DOWN BALLOT RACE.

YOU HAVE TO BE RUNNING AGAINST A FLAWED CANDIDATE AND SO WHEATLY I IMAGINE AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY ARE HOPING THAT NIP ERWINS ALTHOUGH THE PROC PROSPECTS OF WINNING AT GENERAL ELECTION.

>> .

>> Renee: AND THE FORMER [AUDIO INTERRUPTION].

>> BUDDY WHEATLY LOST HIS REELECTION BID HIS DISTRICT MOVED OUT FROM UNDER HIM LARGELY.

WHICH IS LEGAL.

ALTHOUGH THAT'S A HELL OF A DEFENSE.

WELL, IT'S LEGAL.

MAYBE IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING EVEN THOUGH IT'S LEGAL.

BUDDY IS A LONG SOLID PUBLIC SERVICE CAREER, FIREFIGHTER, A FIRE CHIEF.

AND AN ATTORNEY.

HE IS A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE FOR US.

WE'VE GOT A GOOD, GOOD SLATE TOGETHER AND YOU NOTICE WE'VE HAD VIRTUALLY NO PRIMARIES.

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT HAS BEEN LAUGHED AT FOR BEING DISORGANIZED THROUGH HISTORY BY WILL ROGERS AND OTHERS HAS REALLY COME TOGETHER IN KENTUCKY AND THEIR ONE LITTLE PRIMARY FOR AGRICULTURAL COMMISSIONER SHOWS WE ARE A SOLID UNITED FRONT AND THAT IS THE ADVANTAGE GOING INTO NOVEMBER.

YOU PASSED OVER ATTORNEY GENERAL, WE GOT TO MENTION COLONEL PAM STEVENSON, RETIRED, AIR FORCE COLONEL.

PREACHER.

JUST AN AMAZING WOMAN.

SHE IS AN ATTORNEY OBVIOUSLY RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL.

SO WE'VE JUST GOT IT UP AND DOWN THE TICKET.

MICHAEL BENNETT FOR TREASURER -- BOWMAN.

>> Renee: BEFORE WE GO TO THE STATE TREASURER LET'S TALK ABOUT RUSSELL COLEMAN WHOM SHE WILL MEET IN NOVEMBER.

RUSSELL COLEMAN FORMER F.B.I.

>> TREMENDOUS BACKGROUND.

>> Renee: TREMENDOUS BACKGROUND GOT LAW ENFORCEMENT BEHIND HIM THAT IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING RACE.

>> TAYLOR MAYBE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

>> Renee: WE FORGOT AUDITOR YOU MENTIONED ALLISON BALL WHO WAS TERM LIMITED AND NOW RUNNING FOR AUDITOR.

AND.

>> I DON'T EXPECT THIS TO BE MUCH OF A RACE.

>> AND KIMBERLY READER THE DEMOCRAT SIDE.

>> IMPRESSIVE AND HAS NO PRIMARY AND MICHAEL BOWMAN IS A BANKER.

HE DOES COME TO THE OFFICE OF TREASURER WITH A BANKING BACKGROUND.

>> Renee: WE FORGOT TO MENTION HIM.

MICHAEL BOWMAN IN THE TREASURER.

THERE IS ANOTHER ELECTION IF YOU LIVE IN THE STATE SENATE 28TH DISTRICT YOU GET TO VOTE BECAUSE THIS WAS THE SEAT VACATED WHO IS NOW THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSIONER IN TENNESSEE THIS IS A THREE-WAY GOING ON AND A FAMILIAR RICHARD HENDERSON WHO USED TO BE A DEMOCRAT STATE REPRESENTATIVE, IS RUNNING AS AN INDEPENDENT THIS TIME.

GREG ELKINS AND ROBERT SAINT THE DEMOCRATS YOU SEE THE PICTURES AND THEIR IDENTITIES.

WHAT DO YOU GOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS?

>> REPUBLICANS WILL WIN THE RACE.

THEY HAVE RUN A FULL-SCALE CAMPAIGN MAIL, DOOR-TO-DOOR EFFORTS.

GREG ELKINS HAS BEEN OUT WITH CONGRESSMAN BAR AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES IN THE AREA.

I THINK WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LOT BUT MORE THAN DEMOCRATS THAT VOTE TOMORROW REPUBLICANS WILL COME OUT TO VOTE AND SEND GREG ELKINS TO THE 123459.

>> I HAVE TO MAKEUP I SAID ON A PREVIOUS "KENTUCKY TONIGHT".

CERTAIN STATE SENATOR HIS INITIALS MAY OR MAY NOT BE DT I PREDICTED KAREN BIRD WOULD WIN IT WAS THE SAME DAY AS A SENATORIAL PRIMARY AND REPUBLICANS HAD NOTHING TO VOTE FOR AND THE DEMOCRATS HAD A WHITE HOT SENATE IN 2020.

THERE IS A HOT G.O.P.

PRIMARY THE REPUBLICAN VOTERS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOP OF THE TICKET FOR THEM TO TURNOUT AND VOTE FOR AND THEY WILL VOTE REPUBLICAN AS WELL.

AND DEMOCRATS JUST YOU COULD HAVE THE BEST CANDIDATE IN THE WORLD THAT TURNOUT DISPARITY IS GOING TO SINK WHATEVER CANDIDATE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BALLOT.

>> Renee: ANY COMMENT ABOUT SENATE DISTRICT 28?

NO, NOT REALLY.

NOT YOUR THING.

SO THAT'S THAT.

WITH TWO MINUTES REMAINING CAN YOU MAKE YOUR PREDICTIONS TOMORROW.

LADIES FIRST?

>> I CAN'T MAKE A PREDICTION BUT I WILL BE LOOKING TO SEE IF NORTHERN KENTUCKY TURNS OUT WHERE THE FIFTH DISTRICT GOES AND DOES JAMIE COMBERS INTEREST RUN UP THE SCORE FOR KELLY CRAFT IN THE WEST.

>> Renee: GOOD ONIZATIONS.

>> I THINK RYAN QUARLES IS GOING TO DO WELL IN THE WEST AND HOW THE COUNTIES THAT FLIPPED SINCE 15, I AM INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THE COUNTIES THAT FLIPPED FROM DEMOCRAT TO REPUBLICAN WHAT THEIR TURNOUT PERCENTAGES LOOK LIKE.

THEY VOTED A LOT MORE ON THE DEMOCRAT SIDE IN THE GUBERNATORIAL SIDE THAN THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.

THE PERCENTAGES WERE LIKE 10 VERSUS 30.

I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW MANY VOTERS SHOW UP.

THE NUMBERS LOOK LOW BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT THE PEOPLE SWITCHED PARTIES WITH THE INTENTION OF VOTING I WILL BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT INTERESTS.

WE ARE IN A NEW ERA OF CHANGE IN POWER AND REGISTRATION AND VOICE IN THE STATE AND WE'RE IN A BRAVE NEW WORLD HERE.

>> Renee: VOTER PERFORMANCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHAT IT'S BEEN.

YOU HAVE 50,000 MORE VOTES YOU HAVE A PLURALITY.

>> THE FOLKS A HISTORY OF TURNING OUT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES.

>> I THINK RYAN QUARLES IS GOING TO OVERPERFORM BECAUSE HE HAS THE BEST ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY ARE SO FEW FOLKS VOTING.

BUT I DO THINK THAT MY FORMER LEGAL ASSOCIATE, DANIEL CAMERON PULLS IT OUTCOME FOR THABLY.

UNLESS ENOUGH VOTERS FIND OUT HE IS MY FORMER -- >> Renee: I THINK THEY WILL.

FINAL WORD 20 SECONDS.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE CAMERON IS GOING TO WIN AND QUARELS IS THE ONE AND THE DIFFERENCE OF THE MIDDLE CANDIDATE COMING BETWEEN THE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEATEN UP ON EACH OTHER IN PAST RACES WITH WILKINSON AND BEVIN THEY BOTH HAD THE MONEY TO FUEL THEIR TAKING THAT OPPORTUNITY AND QUARELS DOESN'T SEEM TO.

BUT THE REAL WINNER TOMORROW NIGHT IS GOING TO BE ANDY BESHEAR BECAUSE THIS PRIMARY IS SUCH A SHOW.

>> Renee: ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD DISCUSSION Y'ALL.

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