>> THE VOTES ARE IN BUT MAY RACES ARE JUST GETTING STAD AS THE 2026 ELECTION SEASON ENTERS A NEW PHASE.

JOIN US AS WE BREAK DOWN TE RESULTS OF THE PRIMARY ELE, HIGHLIGHTING THE BIGGEST WINNERS, THE TOUGHEST LOSSD ANY MAJOR SURPRISES.

WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT WHAT THE OUTCOMES REVEAL ABOUT VOTER PRIORITIES AND HOW IT COULD AFFECT THE NOVEMBER GENERAL ELECTION.

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AD LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON S HAWAI'I START NOW.

>> Daryl: ALOHA AND WELCOMO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I...M DARYL HUFF.

THE VOTES ARE IN FOR THE PY ELECTION, WHICH HAD FEW MAR CONTESTS TO ATTRACT VOTERS.

WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THE W TURNOUT, PLUS THE HANDFUL F RAZOR-THIN RACES AND WHAT'O COME FOR THE NOVEMBER GENEL ELECTION.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YR QUESTIONS.

AND YOU'LL FINDA LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS I YOUTUBE PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

DAN NAKASO IS THE CAPITOL U CHIEF AT THE HONOLULU STAR-ADVERTISER.

HE'S BEEN AN EDITOR AND RER IN HAWAI'I FOR NEARLY 30-Y, STARTING AT THE FORMER HONU ADVERTISER.

CHAD BLAIR IS THE POLITICS EDITOR FOR HONOLULU CIVIL .

HE'S BEEN A WRITER, EDITORD EDUCATOR IN HONOLULU FOR ME THAN 35 YEARS.

COLLEEN UECHI IS THE EDITOF THE NON-PROFIT HAWAI'I JOURNALISM INITIATIVE.

BASED ON MAUI, SHE IS THE R MANAGING EDITOR OF THE MAUS AND WAS ALSO A REPORTER FOE MOLOKA'I DISPATCH.

AND COLIN MOORE IS A PUBLIC POLICY ANALYST AND THE DIRR OF THE MATSUNAGA INSTITUTER PEACE AS WELL AS AN ASSOCIE PROFESSOR WITH UHERO, THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAI'I ECONC RESEARCH ORGANIZATION.

LET ME START WITH YOU U COL SKOL.

I REMEMBER YOU AND I TALKIG ABOUT HOW BORING THIS ELECN WAS GOING TO BE.

BOY, WERE WE WRONG.

HOW DO YOU THINK THESE BIG ISSUES AFFECTED THE WAY VOS BEHAVED?

>> I THINK IN PART IT CONTRIBUTED TO OUR CLASSICY LOW VOTER TURNOUT.

THERE WAS A CHANCE PEOPLE T BE GET FIRED UP WITH SOME CORRUPTION INQUIRIES.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT HAP.

THERE'S A GENERAL SENSE OFA LEASE THE STATE IS GOING IE WRONG DIRECTION.

IN DECEMBER, I THINK EVERYE AROUND THIS TABLE THOUGHT A LUKE'S EASILY GOING TO WIN.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT INTERESTING.

ED CASE WILL EASILY GET RE-ELECTED.

WE GOT SOME HOT RACES.

>> Daryl: DAN, HOW DO YOU THINK THE SCANDALS MIGHT HE AFFECTED VOTERS OR COMMUNIS GOING INTO AN ELECTION?

>> I THINK THERE WAS A BITA DEPRESSION AMONG VOTERS.

HERE WE GO AGAIN.

THERE'S CORRUPTION.

NO COMPETITIVE TOP OF THE T RACES.

MY VOTE DOESN'T MATTER.

WE'VE HEARD THAT OVER AND R AGAIN.

CLEARLY, AS YOU POINTED OUN YOUR INTRO.

SMALLER STATE SENATE OR STE HOUSE RACES, EVERY VOTE DOS MATTER.

CAME DOWN TO ONE VOTE.

>> Daryl: THAT WAS ASTOUND.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANYTHINE THAT?

>> NO.

I HAD FLASHBACKS OF FLORID.

>> Daryl: BUTTER FLY BALLO.

>> GOOD TO BE REMINDED OF L THOSE JOKES.

THAT RACE ISN'T OVER.

THEY STILL -- WHEN I SAY T, OFFICE OF ELECTIONS HAS TOE THOSE SIGNATURE PROBLEMS TE HAVING.

THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH POTENY TO TAKE KANANI SOUZA'S ONET LEAD OVER MEDEIROS.

McDERMOTT AND FEVELLA, I THINK, ARE SEVEN POINTS AP.

CURING, BY THE WAY, YOU'RE MATCHING THE SIGNATURES.

PUT YOUR SIGNATURE ON THE BALLOT.

THEY HAVE TO MATCH IT WITHE REGISTER ON THE STATE.

>> Daryl: COLLEEN, ON MAUI, WAS THERE AN AGITATED FEEL?

THIS IS THE FIRST BIG ELECN SINCE THE FIRE.

WHAT WAS THE ATMOSPHERE OVR THERE?

>> YEAH.

I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF INTERESTING EXCITING RACESN THE MAUI COUNTY BALLOT.

I DON'T THINK THE RESULTS E QUITE AS SURPRISING.

BISSEN WAS UP AGAINST A TOH TEST.

THIS WAS THE FIRST ELECTION SINCE THE FIRE.

OTHER ISSUES TOO LIKE HOUSG AND WATER AND THESE ONGOING THINGS.

HE MANAGED TO COME OUT ON .

HE'S INCUMBENT.

THAT WAS A VERY BIG STATEMT FOR HIM TO FINISH ON TOP AA CHALLENGING FIRST TIME.

>> Daryl: CHAD, THE OTHER THING WAS IT'S WHOLE TOMMY WATERS THINGS.

>> I'M HAVING MORE FLASHBA.

EVEN THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE E WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

NEWS REPORT SAYING THE SUPE COURT STATE OF HAWAI'I IS G TO WEIGH IN.

I DO THINK TOMMY WATERS HAT LEAST A REASONABLE ARGUMENF DISENFRANCHISE.

HE DID PRETTY GOOD.

HE CAME IN SECOND TO TREVOR OZAWA.

WHO KNOWS.

WILL THERE BE A SPECIAL ELECTION?

I DON'T KNOW.

IT WASN'T A BORING ELECTIO.

IT WAS VERY, VERY EXCITINGO MANY WAYS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS STIMULATIO SEE THE NEW FACES THROUGHOE STATE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

>> Daryl: LET'S TALK ALSO ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE COL RACE.

AGAIN, VOTER TRUST.

THE SENSE THAT THERE WAS KW DID WE END UP IN THIS MESS?

DAN.

>> I THINK IT WAS THE UNCERTAINTY THAT ALSO MAY E CONTRIBUTED TO SUPPRESSED S IN HAWAI'I KAI DISTRICT FO.

IF YOU CAST YOUR BALLOT ONY OR ANOTHER IN MAIL-IN AND F THIS STARTS TO UNFOLDOVER E NEXT WEEK, THAT CAN'T BE AD FEELING.

>> Daryl: WHAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT I JUST TT OF, THEY SENT OUT THE VOTES PRETTY EARLY.

SYLVIA LUKE -- SORRY, DELLU BELATTI HAD A SHORT CAMPAI.

COLIN, THE WINDOWS HERE ARE GETTING TIGHTER.

THEY MOVED THE PRIMARY FROM AUGUST TO SEPTEMBER.

THEY DID MOVE IT BACK BUT E VOTING REALLY STARTS IN MID-JULY.

>> YEAH.

THIS IS TOUGH FOR THE CANDIDATES.

YOU TRADITIONALLY YOU WANTO PLAN YOUR PEAK FOR ELECTIO.

THAT'S WHEN YOUR FLIERS GO.

THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WHEN AE PEOPLE VOTING?

THERE ARE QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO VOTE LATE.

WE KNOW THAT BY SEEING THE BALLOTS COME IN.

SOME OF THIS WAS DUE TO THT THAT BELATTI AND OTHERS DED LATE.

THEY COULD HAVE HAD A LONGR RUNUP TO THE CAMPAIGN.

STRATEGY DIFFERS WHEN PEOPE HAVING THEIR BALLOT SIT ONR KITCHEN TABLE.

>> BELATTI, HER FAMILY, VEY NICE SIGNS, AND THE MINUTEE SWITCHED, STICKER GOES OVE.

YOU DO WHAT YOU CAN.

>> Daryl: THAT WAS TOUGH.

A STATEWIDE RACE AND ULTIMY SHE GOT CRUSHED.

>> TO ME, THIS WAS ONE OF E MAJOR THEMES OF THIS ELECT.

FIRST, THIS WAS A STATUS QO ELECTION.

AFTER THIS CORRUPTION MIGHE THOUGHT EVERYONE WOULD CAST THEIR BALLOT AND KICK THE S OUT.

THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

SENATOR IHARA LOST.

ON THE MAINLAND, THERE WAST OF EXPECTATION THAT KEOHOKE WOULD DO BETTER.

THE PROGRESSIVES DIDN'T TUT OUT.

BELATTI WAS CRUSHED BY KAW.

KEOHOKALOLE, CASE BEAT HIMY MORE THAN 20 POINTS.

>> I WOULD ALSO SAY FEVELL, WE'LL SEE WHETHER HE LOSESS SEAT.

ANOTHER THING ABOUT OW OW U BELATTI, SHE ARGUABLY WAS .

BIGGEST VOICES ALONG WITH I SOUZA FOR WE'VE GOT TO GETD OF PAY TO PLAY.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS LOE IN GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS.

CLOSELY RESEMBLES THE SITUN ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH TE ALLEGATIONS WITH SYLVIA LU.

ALLOWING THIS MONEY TO COMN AND PERSUADE PEOPLE TO CHAE LEGISLATION FOR SMALL AMOUF MONEY.

>> DEREK KAWAKAMI DID VERY.

AND THE GOVERNOR'S RACE, JH GREEN DID WELL.

MAUI'S BEEN A PRETTY STAUNH DEMOCRATIC.

>> Daryl: DID DEREK CAMPAIN ON MAUI?

DID YOU SEE HIM THERE?

>>> NOT REALLY.

I THINK HE DID HAVE THE BET OF PEOPLE KNOWING WHO HE W. BEING THE MAYOR OF KAUA'I Y AND NEIGHBOR ISLANDS KEEP E ON EACH OTHER AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.

>>> THE SUPER PAC SPENDING.

>> THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

EVEN IF HE'S NOT THERE, WEE SEEING HIM.

>> GOING BACK TO REP AU BEI REPRESENTED A VERY SMALL HE DISTRICT.

ONE THING TO GO TO A HOUSEO MAYBE LARGER SENATE DISTRI.

TO MOUNT A STATEWIDE CAMPAN RELATIVE LAST MINUTE, THATS QUITE A CHALLENGE.

AND KAWAKAMI REPRESENTING E SMALLEST COUNTY.

HE HAD A REPUTATION DURINGD TO BUILD ON, BUT IT WAS GOO BE A CHALLENGE TO SEE IF AU COULD TURN HER GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN TO A STATEWIDE MOVEMENT.

>> Daryl: THAT RACE BROUGHT ABOUT THE ISSUE ABOUT THE CARPENTER'S UNION AND SIZEF THE CAMPAIGN.

ON MAUI, LEI LEI LEI YUKI S GOTTEN A LOT OF MONEY.

$180,000 AT THE LAST REPOR.

GETTING PAPERED?

>> YEAH.

WHAT WAS INTERESTING, I WAS TALKING TO COLIN EARLIER.

SUCK SUGUMURA'S CAMPAIGN.

SHE HAD A LOT OF FUNDRAISI.

SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A LOF STEAM BEHIND HER CAMPAIGN.

IT WASN'T SURPRISING BUT WE TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH SHEN BY.

PEOPLE WERE SPENDING A LOTD THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO - SUPER PAC IS PROBABLY GOINO SPEND MORE.

>> Daryl: THEY HAVE HARDLY ANYTHING ELSE TO SPEND ON.

BISSEN DID SOMETHING SMART.

>> HE KNEW HE HAD TO COME N FIRST.

IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE NT ROUND.

IF YOU ARE THE INCUMBENT MR AND YOU COME IN SECOND IN E PRIMARY, IT'S HARDER TO ATT DONORS.

LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE THE CAPTF A SINKING SHIP.

YOU COULD TELL THAT BISSENS FOLKS UNDERSTAND THEY CAMEN SECOND -- >> HE BENEFITED FROM THAT T TIME.

WHEN HE FACED VICTORINO, HS THE CHALLENGER AND HE WENTO WIN IT ALL.

AND HE HAD THE ADVANTAGE IN FUNDRAISING GOING INTO THE PRIMARY, SIMILAR SITUATION.

>> YOU WANT TO HAVE MOMENT.

>> AND HE MANAGED TO PULL - >> Daryl: I DIDN'T LOOKS CLOSELY ENOUGH.

DID MARGIN BETWEEN BISSEN D YUKI LEI, WOULD IT HAVE MAA DIFFERENCE IF IT WENT TO YI LEI.

>> IT DID.

THOSE ARE VOTES THAT ARE NR BISSEN BUT ARE NOT FOR SUG.

ACOSTA WENT HARD.

IT'S NOT GUARANTEED.

SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO WORD TO GET VOTES.

THERE ARE ENOUGH VOTES.

SHE CAN GET IT BUT SHE'S GG TO HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GEL OF THOSE.

>> Daryl: CHAD, YOU BROUGHP THE CARPENTER'S UNION.

HOW CONCERNED SHOULD PEOPLE ABOUT THAT LARGE -- I'M TRG TO THINK OF A WAY TO DESCRE IT.

HOW LARGE OF AN ENTITY THAS NOT A CANDIDATE HAVING SO H VOTING POWER?

>> I THINK IT'S A VERY SERS CONCERN.

AND THE CARPENTER'S UNION, PACIFIC RESOURCE PARTNERSHS ALL THE SAME GROUP TIED TO PEOPLE WORKING FOR A LIVIND TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENC.

I THINK IT'S A TURNOFF TO E THOSE MAILERS, TO HAVE THOE ADS.

UNLIKE A COUPLE YEARS AGO N SYLVIA LUKE WAS TARGETED BP AND THEY TRIED TO TAKE HERN AND 42 -- THEY DIDN'T.

THEY WERE PRETTY POSITIVE .

DEREK KAWAKAMI CAPE OFF VEY WELL.

YOU'RE KNOTTED SUPPOSE NOTO COORDINATE.

THERE WAS A FINE LINE.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WEE TURNED OFF BY THAT WHERE YI LEI SUGIMURA MIGHT HAVE BEN HURT BY THAT.

CIVIL BEAT IS GOING TO LOOT HOW PRP DID.

THEY HAVE A HEALTHCARE HECF MONEY LEFT.

THEY ARE THE PLAYER.

>> Daryl: DAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> WE OUGHT TO TALK ABOUT .

IT'S GOTTEN OUT -- >> Daryl: THAT'S RARE.

>> RIGHT.

THAT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL CLASS DISCUSSION.

AND ON MAUI, THE -- I THINE DIVIDE BETWEEN BISSEN AND SUGIMURA GOT WIDER.

ILLEGAL VACATION RENTALS RY KIND OF PUSHED THAT DIFFER.

FROM AN OAHU PERSPECTIVE, T MAYOR'S RACE SEEM THEED LIA LITTLE BIT OF A REFERENDUM.

>> Daryl: IN THE -- MAUI, THAT'S ALWAYS THE TIPPING .

YOU GUYS HAVE HOT COUNCIL S OVER THERE, TOO.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOINGO HAPPEN WITH THAT?

>> THEY DID IN 204.

THEY 204 -- 2024.

WE ENDED UP WITH A COUNCILH MODERATE.

THIS TIME, PROGRESSIVES.

WITH SUGIMURA STEPPING DOWD WITH THE CHAIR STEPPING DO, THEY'RE BOTH MODERATE SO TE PERSON WHO IS HOPING TO REE SUGIMURA, THE CANDIDATE WHE LEADING IS BOBBY.

HE FINISHED FIRST IN THE PRIMARY.

SO IF HE WINS, THAT'S ALL Y NEED TO FLIP IT.

THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BH MAJORITY WILL THEY HAVE IN4 OR 6-3?

>> Daryl: MAUI, VOTING IS T DONE BY DISTRICT.

EVERYBODY IN COUNTY VOTES.

INTERESTING PATTERN THERE.

COLIN, LET ME -- I WANT TOT THIS QUESTION.

A KAPAHULU RESIDENT, DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE A SPECL ELECTION TO THE TOMMY WATES KERFUFFLE?

>> WE NOW KNOW THAT THE SUE COURT IS GOING TO HEAR THIS AUGUST 26?

>> Daryl: 25TH.

>> 25TH.

I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THY COME UP WITH.

THEY CAN SAY NO, WATERS IST ELIGIBLE.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARH OZAWA AND GREGORY.

MAYBE THEY SAY OZAWA HAS WN THIS ELECTION.

WE'RE GOING TO COUPLE THE Y THEY COUNT THE MAJORITY.

POTENTIALLY THEY CAN CALL A SPECIAL ELECTION.

I THINK THERE'S UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT LEGAL BASIS THEN USE TO DO THAT.

THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATEDL QUESTION.

ONE I'M NOT QUALIFIED TO A. PROBABLY NONE OF US ARE.

[LAUGHTER] >> IT IS A MESS.

I DON'T ENVY THE JUSTICES.

>> THERE WAS A SPECIAL ELEN BETWEEN WATERS AND OZAWA B. THEY CAN DO IT.

IT WASN'T HELD IN CONJUNCTN WITH THE PRIMARY OR -- GEN.

KERFUFFLE, I WAS THINKING E WORD "CLUSTER."

IT'S A FAMILY STATION.

ELMO AND ALL THOSE GUYS.

IF I LIFTED LIVED IN DISTRD VOTED FOR TOMMY WATERS.

YOU FIND OUT THAT YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT.

THAT'S UPSETTING.

>> YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT JUS RECUSING.

CIRCCIRCUIT COURT JUDGES FN IN.

>> Daryl: IT'S BEFORE THE BALLOTS ARE PRINTED.

THAT'S INTENTIONAL ON THEIR PART.

I THINK THEY WANT TO CLEARE AIR, AT THE VERY LEAST.

REAL QUICKLY BECAUSE I WANO DOMINATE THE WHOLE HOUR.

COULD YOU ES PLAIN HOW TOMY WATERS GOT ON A BALLOT?

SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE CUT IT BEFORE THEY WENT OUT?

>> WE'LL TURN TO COLIN.

[LAUGHTER] THERE IS A REASONABLE QUESN ABOUT WHY THE CLERK DIDN'T IMMEDIATELY SEEK LEGAL GUIDESNESS WHEN THIS QUESTN CAME UP.

IT WAS A COMPLICATED LEGAL QUESTION.

YOU COULD RAID THE CLARETT- CHARTER BOTH WAYS.

THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAD AND DIDN'T HAPPEN.

>> Daryl: LET'S TALK A LITE BIT MORE ABOUT KEOHOKALOLED CASE.

AND COLIN MENTIONED EARLIE, THIS WAS GETTING NATIONAL INTENTION.

CASE IS A CLASSIC MODERATEE THE MODERATES GETTING KICKT OF OFFICE ACROSS THE COUNT.

DAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK HAN?

WHY DIDN'T KEOHOKALOLE FAIO GET -- >> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HAWAI'I AND WHAT'S HAPPENIG WITH THE SOCIALIST DEMOCRAS THAT'S A BIG STORY BUT WE E PROGRESSIVES, YOUNG ONES IN PARTICULAR IN SUPPORT OF KEOHOKALOLE.

CAN THEY BRING OUT THE VOTE AGAINST A VERY STRONG INCUT CANDIDATE WITH A WELL-KNOWE VERSUS A SENATOR WHOSE INIL ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN WAS, S IS HOW YOU PRONOUNCE MY NA.

>> Daryl: BUT ED CASE ACTUY GOT A LOT LESS VOTES THAN D TWO YEARS AGO WHEN HE DIDNT HAVE ANY COMPETITION, A LOS VOTES THAN FOUR YEARS AGO,N HE HAD A PROGRESSIVE CANDIE RUNNING AGAINST HIM.

20,000 AND 40,000.

AND CASE, ON SUNDAY WHERE E DEMOCRATS SAID, I HEARD YO.

II GOT IT.

WHETHER HE'LL MODERATE HIS, I DON'T KNOW HE'LL DO THAT.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT, CHAD.

GO BACK TO TIME TO FOUR YES AGO.

NOW WE HAVE DONALD TRUMP IN OFFICE VERSUS BIDEN.

THAT'S GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE- >> Daryl: GOOD POINT.

I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE SECOND DISTRICT RACE.

THERE'S NOT MUCH EXCITEMENT THERE.

JILL TOKUDA EASILY WALKED O THE NOMINATION.

THIS IS YOUR DISTRICT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK BRENTON ?

NOW A STATE SENATOR.

HE'S CHARISMATIC AND HE DIL IN HIS DISTRICT, MOST OF RL OAHU.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS HAPPE?

>> HE'S AN INTERESTING CANDIDATE.

HE IS CHARISMATIC.

SMALLER COMMUNITIES GET OVERLOOKED.

RESONATES WITH HIS DISTRIC.

AGAIN, NEIGHBOR ISLANDS HAE DEMOCRAT.

THEY WERE ALL DEMOCRATS.

NOT SURPRISING THAT JILL TA DID VERY WELL.

SHE PROBABLY BENEFITED FROE FACT THAT THE FIRE FORCED T OF FEDERAL CONVERSATIONS.

S SHE'S BEEN ON MAUI BEEN BEEN ON MAUI A LOT.

HAVING TO TALK TO PEOPLE.

LOTS OF THINGS, CONVERSATIN THE COMMUNITIES.

>> SHE WAS IN LAHAINA RIGHT AFTER THE FIRES AND ORGANIG THE EVENTS AT THE LAHAINA G CENTER.

AND FEDERAL GROUPS TOGETHE.

IT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

>> LOOK, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSE FOR A REPUBLICAN TO WIN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRS IN HAWAI'I.

SENATOR AWAY IS A TALENTED COMMUNICATOR.

PLANTING PALM TREES.

HE IS ABLE TO GENERATE A LF ATTENTION.

HIS POSITION HAS ALWAYS BEN KIND OF MODERATE.

FOCUSED ON LOCAL ISSUES.

SHIES AWAY TO CONNECTING HF TO TRUMP AND THE MAGA MOVE.

I EXPECT THERE WILL BE EXPENDITURE GROUPS INVOLVE.

FOR THOSE FOLKS, OUR MEDIA MARKET IS PRETTY CHEAP OF.

INVESTING $100,000.

>> Daryl: THE AMOUNT SPENTN THE MAINLAND, IT'S CRAZE.

.

IT DOES CREATE A CONVERSAT.

THINGS LIKE ICE, LIKE ISRA.

THINGS LIKE IRAN AND UKRAI.

I DON'T REMEMBER HEARING TS MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT NATIL ISSUES.

>> AND REP TOKUDA IS HAPPYO TALK ABOUT TRUMP ADMINISTRN POLICIES.

HOW IT'S AFFECTING HAWAI'I.

AND SENATOR AWA IS VERY I T WANT TO SAY AGNOSTIC BUT DT MAKE A LOT OF COMMENTS ONEY OR ANOTHER ABOUT TRUMP'S A.

>> Daryl: TALKING ABOUT REPUBLICANS, COLIN, YOU HAA CONVERSATION WITH REPRESENE GARCIA.

HOW DO YOU RUN IN A STATE T MAY NOT LIKE DONALD TRUMP A REPUBLICAN?

REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID?

>> HE BASICALLY SAID WE'RE FOCUSED ON LOCAL ISSUES.

I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO ACTUALLY TALKING TO REP GA.

HE WAS MORE WILLING TO CONT HIMSELF WITH PRESIDENT TRU.

YOU SEE THIS TENSION OR DIFFICULTY.

IN THIS COMPETITIVE PRI PR.

FEVELLA AND SOUZA HAVE A ME PRAGMATIC APPROACH.

CRITICIZED FOR BEING TOO CE TO DEMOCRATICS.

McDERMOTT SAID YOU'RE WORKG TO CLOSELY WITH KOUCHI ANDA CRUZ.

IT'S INTERESTING TO ME BECE YOU HAD A TEST OF THESE TWO PHILOSOPHIES.

>> HAWAI'I REPUBLICANS ARE ALMOST DIVIDED.

THOSE WHO WANT A PRAGMATIC APPROACH.

>> Daryl: HOW DOES THAT PLY OUT IN THE GENERAL ELECTIO?

ONLY A TINY AMOUNT OF REPUBLICANS VOTING?

>> THEY SOMEWHERE TO TALKIG ABOUT LOCAL ISSUES.

IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE TE HAVE BEEN REPUBLICANS LIKE ELIJAH WHO IS A CONSERVATIY NOT AFRAID TO TAKE HARD REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS D WIN.

>> HE'S UP AGAINST RACHEL.

LIKE DIAMOND GARCIA.

HE HAS ANOTHER CHALLENGE.

ANTHONY.

>> YOU LOOK AT THE ENDORSES AND MONEY SOME DEMOCRATS H. WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING?

>> TO COLIN'S POINT, IT'S G TO BE REALLY INTERESTING TE WHETHER REPUBLICAN CONTINUE THEIR MOMENTUM TO GAIN SEAN THE LEGISLATURE OR IS AT H?

TO COLIN'S POINT ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS, , WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.

WORKING FOR AFFORDABILITY D THOSE THINGS.

DO REPUBLICANS WANT MORE FORCEFUL OPPOSITION IN THE?

IS THAT GOING TO HURT THEMN NOVEMBER?

BECAUSE THEY MADE GAINS, BN HOUSE AND SENATE.

DOES THAT STOP THIS YEAR YA MID YEAR MID TERM SELECTIO?

>> Daryl: THE COCHRAN RAIN.

TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT.

>> THAT IS AN INTERESTING .

SHE WAS A DEMOCRAT AND SWID MIDSES TO REPUBLICAN.

WE ALSO IN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, VERY WELL KNOWN MG THE BUSINESSES.

IN A DISTRICT THAT RELIABLY VOTES DEMOCRATIC.

AND ONE OF THE MORE HIGH PE FACES.

ONE IS INCUMBENT THAT A LO6 PEOPLE KNOW BUT NOW SWIVELO ANOTHER PARTY.

ANOTHER IS SOMEONE WHO DOET HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE.

ANOTHER IS THE FACE OF ONEF THE MOST CATASTROPHIC AND H PROFILE THINGS TO CAP HAPPI IN A LONG TIME.

>> ESPECIALLY GOING INTO NOVEMBER, KEAKONA GOT 180 S IN THE GREEN PARTY.

DOES HE GET SOME DEMOCRATIC VOTES?

WHO HAD ALMOST 980 SOMETHI.

>> IT WAS A VERY CLOSE RAC.

>> THAT'S A LOT OF VOTES TT COULD SWAY THE RACE.

>> HE HAS A LOT OF ORGANIZS BACKING HIM.

PATEL AND KEOKONA.

FOR A THIRD PARTY GREEN PA, TO GET A UNION BACKING IS Y REMARK.

>> I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER ELECTED A GREEN TO THE LEGISLATURE.

I DIDN'T THINK OF ANOTHER , LET ALONE A LIBERTARIAN.

>> THERE'S ONLY BEEN EIGHT NATIONALLY.

HE WOULD BE THE NINTH.

>> REMEMBER WHO YOU'RE TALG TO, CHAD.

[LAUGHTER] >> Daryl: THAT'S YOUR FUN T FOR THE DAY.

KAUA'I.

IT'S ALWAYS AN INTERESTING PLACE.

DO YOU GUYS, ARE WE EXCITED ABOUT KAUA'I?

OR KAUA'I EXCITED ABOUT KA?

>> I'M PERSONALLY EXCITED T KAUA'I.

I LOVE THE FACT THAT MEL RO AND CARVALHO ARE NECK AND .

>> YOU CAN SEE IT IN MEL.

HE'S GOT A BOUNCE IN HIS SP AND IS EXCITED.

ONLY 60,000 PEOPLE ON THAT ISLAND.

THERE'S A HECK OF A LOT OFW FACES RUNNING FOR COUNCIL , AND THAT'S ENCOURAGING AS .

THERE'S A LOT TO ADMIRE TH.

THE TURNOUT VOTES, I WAS SURPRISED IT'S ACTUALLY -- KAUA'I HAD A PRETTY DECENT TURNOUT.

>> THEY HAD TWO WELL-KNOWN CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR MAY.

>> AND THIS RACE IS BY NO MEANINGS OVER.

THE CARPENTERS ARE ALSO BAG CARVALHO.

>> WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PROGRESSIVES AND WHATNOT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST MAYBE NT UPSET BUT SURPRISES WAS HOL JACKSON SAYAMA KNOCKED OFFS IHARA.

40 YEARS IN THE LEGE, NINE TERMS.

JACKSON SAYAMA IS NOT EXACA PROGRESSIVE OR SOCIALIST.

A HARD SCRAMBLE DEMOCRAT.

THAT WAS A BIG, LOPSIDED.

>> Daryl: THAT MIGHT HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH YOUR ENERGYO TO HOUSE TO HOUSE TO HOUSEO HOUSE.

>> HE HUSTLED.

>> Daryl: AND HE HAD A SAM9 HE HAD A HOUSE DISTRICT BED HIM.

I THINK HE WAS ONE TERM SO?

>> NO, HE ACTUALLY SERVED 8 THREE TERMS.

ELECTED IN 2020.

I TALKED TO JOHNSON AFTER E RACE.

LES IHARA RELEASED A STATE.

GINGSJACKSON WAS SIGN WAVIA DAY.

HAD HIS MOM WITH HIM.

HE RAN A CLASSIC DEMOCRATIC CAMPAIGN.

HE HAD A LOT OF HELP FROM E IN THE HOUSE.

LOBBYISTS, EXECUTIVES.

LES TOOK NO CAMPAIGN CONTRE BUGSES AND DID NOT CAMPAIG.

>> Daryl: YOU LOOK AT THE AGES, I THINK THERE'S A 30R DIFFERENCE.

A LOT OF YEARS DIFFERENCE.

HELPING TO GET YOUNGER PEO, NOT THAT I'M ENDORSING ANY.

GREEN PARTY, AN INTERESTING SITUATION IN DISTRICT 18 SE SENATE.

THE GOVERNOR, MICHELLE KIDI RESIB RESIGNED.

AND GOVERNOR APPOINTED SOME TO TA TAKE HER SEAT UNTIL .

9 PARTIES-- THE PARTIES GEE CANDIDATES.

WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT?

CHAD.

>> MICHELLE RESIGNED BEFORE FILING DEADLINE.

DANIELLE BASS SELECTED BY E GOVERNOR.

BY DEMOCRATS.

>> Daryl: DANIELLE.

>> WE'RE HEARING SHE WILL E PARTY'S BIG TO -- PICK ON E DEMOCRATIC BALLOT.

>> I THINK IT'S SPOT-ON.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TE VERY INTERESTING.

COULD THAT CREATE AN OPENIR REPUBLICANS, WHO TODAY, NAD KELLY KITASHIMA, SOMEONE WN FOR OFFICE BEFORE.

AND GREEN PARTY, THERE'S TK THEY MIGHT PICK SOMEONE.

>> Daryl: MILILANI HAS ELED REPUBLICANS.

>> CORRECT.

THERE WILL EVEN BE A NONPAN CANDIDATE.

COULD DEMOCRATS LOSE A SEA?

WE'LL SEE WHETHER DANIELLES CAN PULL IT OFF.

IT SMELLS MORE THAN A LITTE FISHY.

>> Daryl: I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SAY THIS OUT LOU.

SEE A CHANCE FOR SWIN COMIE COMING IN FROM ANOTHER PAR?

>> I DON'T BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY.

IF EVER THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITYING LIKE LAHAIN, THISSING THIS WOULD BE THE CASE.

>> Daryl: I LOST MY THOUGH.

KALIHI WAS AN INTERESTING E TO BE.

DONNYDONNA KIM.

AND IKAIKA HUSKY BEING BEHD TWO PRINTOUTS.

>> IF HE FOLLOWED THE LAST COUPLE CYCLES.

MIZUNO HAS BEEN IN 9 9 IN R A LONG TIME.

>> HIS WIFE EVEN.

>> HE GETS ASKED TO JOIN TE ADMINISTRATION.

HIS WIFE FILLS IN, RUNS FOR ELECTION AND GETS KNOCKED Y IKAIKA HUNGRY.

HUGS -- HUSSEY.

>> I BELIEVE THE MARGIN I I CHECKED, 33 VOTES.

>> Daryl: WE SAW FROM FROME RECOUNTS IT'S ACCURATE.

>> ELECTION OFFICE DOESN'TT ENOUGH CREDIT.

>> ELECTION INTEGRITY, WE T SAY.

>> Daryl: WE TALKED ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY.

THEY HAD RECOUNTS, IF ONE E IS OFF, THAT'S KIND OF SURPRISING.

>> AND LAST TWO YEARS, ROSE AND ELIJAH WENT TO A RECOU.

AND THAT FLIPPED.

THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THIS YE.

WHEN IT GOES TO RECOUNT, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

TO YOUR POINT -- >> Daryl: WHEN YOU LOOK ATE ONE-VOTE MARGIN IN THE MAKAKILO-KAPOLEI RACE.

CAN YOU IMAGINE SOMEONE SIG AT HOME GOING, DARN, I WISI VOTED.

>> ONE MORE HAND SHAKE.

>> THERE'S MY MAIL-IN BALLN THE KITCHEN COUNTER.

>> Daryl: INSTAGRAMMERS POD SHOWING MULTIPLE BALLOTS TY RECEIVED IN THE MAIL.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT HAPPENED?

MULTIPLE BALLOTS PRINTED AD SENT OUT.

I DIDN'T SEE IT TO THE SAME PEOPLE.

>> COLIN, YOU TALK ABOUT HW MANY PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED.

840,000 ABOUT PEOPLE REGIS.

ELECTIONSES OFFICE IS VERY CAREFUL ABOUT REMOVING PEOE WHO ARE REGISTERED.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY DT MAIL OUT A BALLOT TO EVERYE REGISTERED.

SMALLER NUMBER THAN 840,00.

YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET A BALLOT AT YOUR PREVIOUS ADS UNLESS YOU HAVEN'T VOTED IN SEVERAL CYCLES.

THEY'RE SENDING BALLOTS AND PERHAPS THAT PERSON PASSED.

>> Daryl: MAUI IS THE MOSTS SUSPICIOUS ISLAND WHEN IT G TO VOTING.

TWO YEARS AGO OR FOUR YEAR, PEOPLE PRACTICE LICKALLY SE ELECTION OFFICE.

DO PEOPLE TRUST THE VOTE T?

>> PROBABLY DEPENDS IF YOUR CANDIDATE WON?

THERE HAVE BEEN RACES WHERE THERE ARE VERY CLOSE COUNTD PEOPLE WERE FRUSTRATED.

THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CURING OF BALLOT.

PEOPLE STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

OH, THESE BALLOTS HAD TO BE CURED.

PEOPLE GET SUSPICIOUS.

I THINK THERE'S CONFUSION.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANYTHING -- THERE HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE GONE TO LL CHALLENGES.

>> KELLY -- >> THAT WAS A VERY CLOSE O. ACTUALLY ALICE LEE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH TER.

NOT THIS TERM.

SHE COULDN'T PARTICIPATE OS IN QUESTION WHETHER SHE WAS GOING TO BE INAUGURATED BEE HER RAISE WAS CHALLENGED.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTERS.

THINGS TAKE A WHILE.

WHEN YOU BRING THEM FROM HA AND IT'S RAINING, THINGS H. MAY BE ILLEGAL AND PEOPLE T SUSPICIOUS.

HEY, THAT WASN'T OUT THE RT IS?

ESPECIALLY WHEN THINGS ARE COMING FROM VERY REMOTE PL.

>> Daryl: THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THE PROCESS NOW.

USED TO BE WE DID TWO HUNDD SOMETHING PRECINCTS.

WE KNEW IT'S GOING TO TAKEA LONG TIME FOR BALLOTS TO GS FROM WAIANAE OR GET WEST OU LAST.

NOW WE'VE GOT 80% FIRST PRT 4% SECOND PRINTOUT.

AND DURING THAT GAP OF TIM, WHERE ALL OF THE BALLOTS TT ARE BROUGHT FROM THE BOXESL THE OVER THE ISLAND, ALL TE BALLOTS THAT CAME IN THE ML THE LAST DAY THAT COULD RAE SUSPICION.

ANYBODY HERE HAVE ANY DOUB?

>> EVERY ELECTION CYCLE, IO DOWN TO THE SENATE.

WHEN THE BALLOTS START ARI.

I GO OUT OF MY WAY TO TALKO FIRST TIME VOLUNTEER OBSER.

ESPECIALLY SKEPTICAL REPUBS AND EVEN MAGA PEOPLE.

I'M LOOKING FOR REASONS.

THEY NEVER FIND ANY ONCE IT BECOMES TO THE SENATE.

>> Daryl: I THINK I READ OE OF YOUR STORIES.

THEY TURNS THEIR SECRET SI.

>> YEAH.

IT BECOMES WHAT ABOUTISM.

WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES AT THE POST OFFICE?

WHAT HAPPENS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL?

BUT NO EVIDENCE OF THAT.

>> THEY TEND TO GO AWAY CONVINCED.

DO YOU RECALL THERE HAVE BN CONCERNS WITH THE ELECTION COMMISSIONS THAT OVERSEES T NAGO?

AT LEAST BY ONE INDICATION, THERE WERE DIGS SCREP WEREE KAUA'I VOTE TWO YEARS AGO.

THAT K34R5EU7B9 COMPLAINT G ON.

THERE'S LEGAL CHALLENGES.

>> AND AT THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION, IT'S DIVIDED BN VOTER ELECTION SCEPTICS.

A LOT OF QUESTIONS, WHAT AT THIS?

WHAT ABOUT THAT?

>> SCEPTICISM MAINLY FROM REPUBLICANS.

IS THAT SECOND PRINTOUT, WH IS IN-PERSON BALLOTS DOMIND BY DEMOCRATS.

ABOUT 50% OF ALL OF 9 OF TE IN-PERSON BALLOTS ARE REPUBLICAN.

REPUBLICANS FAR MORE TRUSTT IN-PERSON EXPERIENCE.

>> GOES UP TO THE PRESIDENO VOTES BY MAIL.

[LAUGHTER] >> Daryl: WE HAVEN'T TALKS ABOUT OHA.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING.

YOU'VE GOT SOME REALLY BIG NAMES.

ANYBODY FOCUSED ON IT?

CHAD.

>> I AM.

4:00,OHA, TO PUT IT MILDLYE NEWS.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET LAND DEVELOPED AT KAKAAKO MAKAI.

>> Daryl: THEY'RE DEAD DIVIDED.

>> UNDER KAI KAHELE.

YOU HAVE IKAIKA ANDERSON, R COUNTY.

AND HINA WONG, KUMU HULA.

>> I THINK SHELBY PIKACHU BILLIONAIRE DIDN'T MAKE IT.

YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SHAKEP THAT BOARD.

THAT BOARD UNDER SERIOUS MICROSCOPE.

>> Daryl: YOU'VE GOT KEEAUMOKU.

WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE I RACE?

>> YOU HAVE INCUMBENT THERR A LONG TIME.

FORMER CHAIR.

VERY WELL KNOWN ON MAUI ANL RESPECTED.

KAPU IS WELL KNOWN IN WEST.

HIS COMMUNITY WAS IMPACTEDY THE FIRE.

AND HE WAS INVOLVED WITH SF THE CULTURAL MONITORING AFR THE FIRES.

SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION WIH FIRES COULD FACTOR INTO HOL HE DOES IN THE OHA RACE.

>> OHA RACES, ALL OF THEM,E STATEWIDE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE HAWAIO RUN FOR OHA OR VOTE.

>> Daryl: THERE ARE SO MANY NAMES AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T RECOGNIZE THEM.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CAMN STATEWIDE.

NOBODY GIVES THEM A LOT OF MONEY.

IT'S A CHALLENGE.

>> THERE ARE ALSO NO TERM LIMITS.

JOHN WHYJOHNJOHN WAIHEE IVA LONG TIME.

>> WHAT I ENCOURAGE, YOU'LE THIS ON THE CIVIL BEAT WEB.

WE DO CANDIDATE Q AND A'S.

THE OHA Q AND A'S READ THE.

THEY VERY DEEP QUESTIONS AT CEDED LAND REVENUE, EDUCAT, HEALTH.

READ THOSE AND ALL OF THEME THEIR OWN WEBSITES SW THEIR ISSUES.

OHA PUTS A PRETTY GOOD VOTR GUIDE SO YOU CAN LEARN ABOA K5D CANDIDATES.

>> Daryl: DAN, YOU PAY ATTENTION?

>> WE HAVE ANOTHER REPORTER COVERING THAT THANKFULLY SI DIDN'T HAVE TO -- >> THE -- IT'S AN INTERESTG ORGANIZATION.

>> WE TALKS ABOUT THAT.

WE DID A STORY ABOUT THAT D STRUGGLE PEOPLE GO THROUGH.

SOME PEOPLE THINK, IF I'M T HAWAIIAN, I SHOULDN'T BE V. THERE'S DEBATE IN THE HAWAN COMMUNITY.

SHOULD I VOTE FOR AN ORGANIZATION SOME PEOPLE TK THIS IS AN AMERICAN ELECTIS SYSTEM.

I DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATN THIS.

>> THERE WAS THAT COURT CAD THE WHOLE STATE VOTES.

IT'S A WEIRD SITUATION.

I TALKED TO AN ATTORNEY.

KNOW THAT EVERYONE CAN VOTE URGES IF YOU DECIDE TO VOT, MAKE SURE YOU GET TO KNOW E CANDIDATES UNDERSTAND WHATA DOES.

VOTE RESPONSELY.

>> LUCKILY IN THAT RACE, UE A FEW OTHER, A BLANK DOESNT COUNT AS A NO.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T VOTEA CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT.

IT HURTS THE CAUSE BUT NOTN OHA.

YOU'RE NOT WASTING YOUR VO.

>> MANY PEOPLE DO LEAVE THR BALLOTS BLANK WHEN IT COMEO OHA RACE.

>> YOU'RE NOT PEM PENALIZIE CANDIDATE.

>> YOUR THOUGHT UP CHARTER.

>> DAN.

[LAUGHTER] >> I'M GLAD YOU DID BRIG TS UP.

CONSTITUTION AMENDMENTS, TE WILL BE TWO.

FOR CHARTER AMENDMENTS, THE WILL BE A LOT.

I THINK OAHU HAS AT LEAST R 11, INCLUDING ONE OR RANK E VOTING THE.

YOU'RE REALLY GOT GOT TO DR HOMEWORK.

RATHER THAN RUSHING INTO A DONALD TRUMP.

YOU CAN DO -- 3W-689 -- BO.

>> YOU MENTIONED RANK CHOIE VOTING.

I RAID READ THE AMENDMENT R DAY.

RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT THE CID COUNTY MESS.

APPROXIMATEINTERESTING THIE ON THE BALLOT.

>> WHAT IT REALLY ALLOWS YO DO, IF YOUR FAVORITE CANDIE DOESN'T MAKE IT, MAYOR YOUR SECOND FAVORITE MAKES IT.

YOU GET A COMPROMISED THATY BE ACCEPTABLE.

YOU RANK THEM.

I WANT THIS GUY FIRST.

THIS GUY SECOND.

>> THERE'S NO WASTE IN VOT.

OTHER THING I WOULD MOVE, E IT TO NOVEMBER.

THERE WOULDN'T BE A PRIMAR.

THERE'S A GOOD ARGUMENT.

A LOT MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPN NOVEMBER.

PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO RA.

YOU WOULD HAVE MORE PARTICIPATION.

>> COUNTY RACES ARE NONPAR, UNLIKE THE LEGISLATURE.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUG, TOUGH SELL.

>> Daryl: OTHER THAN THING THAT AMENDMENT WOULD APPLYO MAYOR AND PROSECUTOR.

TO ELECT A MAYOR, I DON'T W WHERE ELSE DOES THAT EXIST?

>> THEY HAVE RANK CHOICE IN ALASKA AND MAINE.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND.

MOST AMERICANS AREN'T USEDO THIS SYSTEM.

THERE'S A MATH BEHIND IT TO CREATE THIS INSTANT RUNOFF.

PEOPLE MIGHT FIND THAT UNU.

>> BECAUSE IT'S RANKED.

>> BOTTOM PERSON DROPS OUTD VOTES ARE REDISTRIBUTED.

>> VOTER DOESN'T HAVE TO DE MATH.

>> THAT MIGHT BE A TOUGH S. GIVEN THE TOMMY WATERS.

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND VOTE ON, AND THAT'S, AS WE KNOW, IS GOIO INTRODUCE A WHOLE OTHER WILDCARD.

>> Daryl: WHAT ARE THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS?

>> GOSH, ONE OF RHYTHM PRE.

>> Daryl: STYLINGS SOMETIM.

>> DID THE CHANGE, BLANK VS IS NO VOTES?

IS THAT THE ONCE THAT MADET THROUGH?

AND I COVERED THE LEGISLAT.

THAT WAS GO MONTHS AGO, ANI ALREADY FORGOT.

>> WE ALL GOT HOMEWORK.

>> I WAS HOPING YOU'D KNOWE ANSWER.

>> Daryl: LUCKILY I'VE GOTA STORM TO COVER.

[LAUGHTER] THIS IS AN INTERESTING WAYF WRAP UP.

WE'VE GOT SEVEN OR EIGHT MS LEFT.

TO CHAD, SPECIFICS WILL SPY YOU.

WITH ALL THE CORRUPTION WIN THE HAWAI'I DEMOCRAT PARTYS HE FEEL -- HE WANTS YOU TO ANSWER THIS.

THAT IN THE FUTURE,S YOUNGR VOTERS MY SWING.

>> I THINK DEMOCRATIC PART.

I MYSELF THOUGHT THAT THERE MIGHT QUESTION A DESIRE FOR CHANGE.

DELLA AU BELATTI HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR A SPECIAL SESS.

CITIZEN UNITED BILL, PERHAE MOST SIGNIFICANT THAT CAMET OF THE LEGISLATURE WOULD PT CORPORATIONS -- INDIVIDUALH RIGHTS WOULD NOT APPLY TO HAWAI'I.

WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.

I DID EXPECT MORE PEOPLE TO THROW THE BUMS OUT.

NOT THAT THERE ARE A LOT.

LES IHARA IS FAR AND AWAY R FROM A BUM.

YET HE LOSS BY FAR THE GRET MARGIN.

I EXPECTED THERE MIGHT BE E OUTRAGE GIVEN THAT THE INDICTMENTS HAND A FEW WEES AGO.

WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THS SINCE 2022.

I DIDN'T SEE MUCH PASSION A WHOLE CLEAN SLATE.

>> Daryl: DAN AND COLLEEN,O YOU SEE YOUNGER PEOPLE STAG TO GET EXCITED ABOUT POLIT?

ARE WE IN THIS PLACE WHEREE CAN'T -- COLLEEN, YOU REPRT THE YOUNGER PEOPLE?

>> I'M A JOURNALIST, IT'S B TO BE EXCITED.

WE'RE RECEIVING INFORMATION DIFFERENT WAYS.

THERE IS A LOT -- THERE ARE CHANNELS GETTING PEOPLE INFORMATION ABOUT CANDIDAT, GETTING PEOPLE EXCITED ABOT VOTING AND DIFFERENT ISSUE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE DIDT REALLY SEE THAT TREND.

AGAIN, EVERYBODY WHO WAS AN INCUMBENT DID REASONABLY W. I DIDN'T SEE A HUGE BACKLA.

>> I DIDN'T SEE THE PITCHFS OUT.

>> I CAN NEVER REMEMBER A E IN THE POLITICS IS JUST EVERYWHERE.

PEOPLE ARE STEEPED IN POLI.

GO ON ANY SOCIAL SOCIAL MEN IS POLITICS.

IT DOESN'T TRANSLATE.

POLITICS IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU WAT.

IT'S SOMETHING YOU DO.

A MESSAGE, ESPECIALLY FOR G PEOPLE, DOESN'T TRANSLATE O PARTICIPATION.

I'M SURE WE CAN GET 50, 20 SOMETHINGS AND THEY WOULD E OPINIONS ABOUT POLITICS AND KEOHOKALOLE AND WHAT NEEDSE DONE.

>> WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS.

WE ALL HAVE -- BUT THAT IST MOVING TO ACTUAL PARTICIPA.

THAT'S WHY WE GET THE RESUE ARE.

PEOPLE PARTICIPATING ARE TRADITIONAL CENTRIST HAWAII DEMOCRATS MORE OR LESS HAPY WITH THE STATUS QUO.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF SOCIALA BUSSES SOCIAL IMMEDIATE BUZZ GOING INTO PRIMARY.

>> DEREK KAWAKAMI GREW OUTF SOCIAL MEDIA IN A LOT OF W.

>> REPUBLICANS TOO.

GOING INTO QUESTION, ENERGD YOUNG VOTERS GET DISCOURAGD SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE A REVOLN IN THE PRIMARIES SO I GIVE.

OLD EVER VOTERS SHOW UP ELN AFTER ELECTION.

>> Daryl: COLLEEN, I KEEP COMING TO YOU BECAUSE I WOR AS THE GENERAL ELECTION AEH PROS AND THERE'S ALL THIS K AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, WITL THIS PUBLICITY AND TALK, DU THINK WE MIGHT SEE YOUNGER VOTERS MORE IMPORTANT IN TE GENERAL ELECTION?

WHEN THERE'S REPUBLICANS OE OF A TARGET?

>> IT'S POSSIBLE.

I THINK IT'S HARD BECAUSE S HAPPENING ON THE NATIONAL , THERE ARE CANDIDATES ARE JT CAPTURING PEOPLE'S ATTENTIN LIKE MAN MAM DAM ANY.

IN HAWAI'I, WHO ARE THOSE CANDIDATES AND WHO ARE GOIO SHAKE UP THOSE ESTABLISHME?

PEOPLE SEE WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE?

IF I WANT TO PUSH BACK AGAT THE PARTY, WHAT IS THE ALTERNATIVE?

THERE'S NOT THAT ONE CANDIE SHAKING UP THE WHOLE PARTYT PEOPLE ARE PUSHING BACK AND SWITCHING OVER TO.

>> Daryl: WE STILL HAVE A CHARISMA DEFICIT.

[LAUGHTER] NOT A GOOD THING TO SAY?

ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

>> WE DON'T HAVE AN A.O.

C. I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE OT THERE.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEEM MORE.

YOU MADE A VERY GOOD POINT.

WHAT'S DRIVING THOSE RACES.

>> Daryl: PEOPLE GETTING EXCITED.

PEOPLE GETTING ANGRY.

WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE.

THANKS.

GOOD JOB.

I PREACH IT.

MAHALO TO YOU FOLKS AT HOM.

AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS - DAN NAKASO FROM THE HONOLUU STAR-ADVERTISE AND COLLEENI FROM THE HAWAI'I JOURNALISM INITIATIVE.

AND CHAD BLAIR FROM HONOLUU CIVIL BEAT AND POLITICAL AT COLIN MOORE.

NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, OUR ELECTION COVERAGE CONTINUES WE FEATURE TWO OF THE OFFIF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS RACES.

WE'LL HAVE THE FOUR WELL-KN CANDIDATES SEEKING THE O'AD MAUI SEATS, WHICH ARE CHOSY VOTERS STATEWIDE.

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

I'M DARYL HUFF FOR INSIGHTN PBS HAWAI'I.

ALOHA!