WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT PEOPLE IN ABUSIVE SITUATIONS FROM THEIR ABUSER SURF POLICE BELIEVE X PARTNERS KILLED TWO WOMEN TWO ISLANDS RECENTLY.

>> GUN THROUGH THE PROCESS OF SECURING PROTECTIVE ORDERS ISSUED BY THE COURTS.

>> WASN'T ENOUGH.

WHAT MORE ACCOUNT SYSTEM AND THE COMMUNITY DO TO PROTECT THOSE AT RISK?

JOIN THE CONVERSATION ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

>> DO PROTECTIVE ORDERS WORK?

NEXT ON INSIGHTS.

¶¶ ¶¶ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

I'M LAUREN DAY.

POLICE BELIEVE THAT THERESA CACHUELA OF OAHU AND ELIZABETH FERNANDEZ OF HAWAII ISLAND WERE KILLED JUST ONE WEEK APART BY THEIR ESTRANGED PARTNERS.

THESE CASES HAVE SHINED A LIGHT ON THE DEFICIENCIES OF THE SYSTEM DESIGNED TO PROTECT VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FROM THEIR ABUSERS.

BOTH WOMEN FILED FOR AND RECEIVED TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDERS AGAINST THEIR ABUSIVE PARTNERS.

FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE VICTIMS SAY THAT THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS DID LITTLE TO PROTECT THEM.

WHAT CAN BE DONE TO KEEP THOSE TRYING TO LEAVE AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP SAFE?

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOU’LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE PAGES.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

MONIQUE IBARRA IS THE CEO OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER (DVAC).

SHE HOLDS A MASTERS IN SOCIAL WORK FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII AT MANOA.

BEFORE HER CURRENT ROLE AT DVAC, SHE SERVED AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MAUI’S KA HALE A KE OLA HOMELESS RESOURCE CENTER.

JUDGE JESSI HALL HAS BEEN A DISTRICT FAMILY COURT JUDGE IN THE FIRST CIRCUIT SINCE 2017.

BEFORE BECOMING A JUDGE, SHE PRACTICED FAMILY LAW FOR 18 YEARS.

SHE GOT HER BA AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII AT HILO AND IS A GRADUATE OF OKLAHOMA CITY UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW.

DETECTIVE ALAN LU HAS 17 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE HONOLULU POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION.

HE PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN PATROL, THE RECORDS AND IDENTIFICATION DIVISION, AND THE CHILD ABUSE DETAIL.

CHANTRELLE WAIALAE IS A FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVOR.

SHE IS A GRADUATE OF THE WILLIAM S. RICHARDSON SCHOOL OF LAW AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII AT MANOA.

HER NON‑PROFIT – PUUHONUA ‘O KA ‘ULULEHUA ‑ AIMS TO HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED FAMILY VIOLENCE.

I WANT TO START WITH YOU.

OBVIOUSLY, TWO CASES TOP OF MIND FOR SO MANY.

FERNANDEZ AND CACHUELA.

CAN YOU GIVEN US LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AS MUCH AS YOU'RE WILLING TO SHARE ON THOSE CASES?

>> LIKE YOU SAID, SEEM TO DO EVERYTHING RIGHT.

>> THEY WENT AND GOT IT RESTRAINING ORDER.

LOOKING FOR WAYS TO KEEP THEMSELVES AND FAMILIES SAFE.

BUT RESTRAINING ORDER IS REALLY ONLY ONE PART OF THE SAFETY PLAN.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SUCH THING CALLED SAFETY PLAN SOMEBODY MAKES A WAY TO KEEP PLANS, KEEP THEMSELVES, FAMILIES SAFE.

SEEM TO HAVE DONE ALL THE RIGHT THINGS.

>> UNFORTUNATELY, THE ABUSER STILL CHOSE A PATH THAT BROUGHT THEM TO THE DEMISE.

UNFORTUNATELY IT.

EVEN HERE TONIGHT HAVING AT THAT TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FAR TOO COMMON.

WHAT DEFICIENCIES DO YOU THOSE SHINE AS FAR AS ON OUR SYSTEM.

>> WAY THINK ABOUT THE THERESA CACHUELA, CASE, YOU TALK ABOUT DEFICIENCIES, I'M NOT SURE ALL THAT HAPPENED IN HER CASE, HAD OTHER PLACES GO STAY SAFE OR NOT, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY MORE OF A SYSTEM THAT WE LOOK AT AS FAR AS SAFETY IS CONCERNED.

WHAT WAS HER SAFETY PLAN LIKE?

SHE HAS A RESTRAINING ORDER, SHOULD HAVE WORKED EXCEPT THE ABUSER IN THIS CASE DIDN'T RESPECT THE RESTRAINING ORDER.

AND STILL VIOLATED THAT IN THAT CASE.

I CAN'T SAY ALL THE DEFICIENCIESEL EXCEPT OTHER AREAS WE CAN LOOK AT WHERE IT MIGHT HAVE MORE BENEFICIAL TO HER.

IF SHE HAD MAYBE HAD MORE INFORMATION.

>>Lauren: JUDGE START WITH THE BASICS.

WHAT EXACTLY IS A PROTECTIVE ORDER AND WHAT KINDS OF ORDERS EXIST?

>> SO THERE'S ESSENTIALLY TWO TYPES OF ORDER.

TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER, WHICH FIRST, VICTIM COME COURTHOUSE TO FILE THE PETITION OR DOCUMENT TO REQUEST RESTRAINING ORDER, LIST ALL OF THEIR ALLEGATIONS DOWN AND THAT GOES BEFORE A JUDGE.

JUDGE WILL REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS AT LEAST THE MINIMAL SUFFICIENCY, INFORMATION NECESSARY TO GRANT IT.

TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER IS ONLY GOOD FOR SIX MONTHS.

HAS TO BE A HEARING WITHIN 2 WEEKS OF FILING FOR THE PETITIONS.

AT THE HEARING TWO WEEKS LATER, IS WHERE THEY CAN REQUEST TO EXTEND THE ORDER AND IF AT THE HEARING.

THEY PROVE ALLEGATIONS, AND THE ORDER IS EXTENDED, IN ORDER FOR PROTECTION PUT IN PLACE.

THERE IS NO ACTUAL TIME LIMIT TO ORDER FOR PROTECTION.

HAS TO BE REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.

>>Lauren: CAN A MINOR APPLY FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER, TRO?

>> LAW CHANGED LAST YEAR.

16‑YEAR‑OLD CAN OR OLDER CAN APPLY FOR A TRO ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT NEEDING THEIR PARENTS' CONSENT.

>>Lauren: CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW DOES A TRO PROTECT WOMEN OR MEN, CHILDREN, IN SITUATIONS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

>> MOST CASES, JUST FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, IN PATROL AND WORKING WITH PEOPLE AT THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION, IT DOES MOST OF THE TIME, IT DOES WORK.

KIND OF LIKE IN A WAY RINGS PERSON AS BELL.

YEAR REALLY SERIOUS.

I COULD GET ARRESTED IF I VIOLATE THIS.

KIND OF PUTS BRAKES ON THE PERSON.

I THINK, YEAH, I THINK IT IS EFFECTIVE MOST OF THE TIME.

OF COURSE YOU CAN'T ALWAYS PLAN FOR EVERY EVENTUALITY.

SOMETHING REALLY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING TO YOU, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY MOVE TO ANOTHER STATE LIKE LAS VEGAS TO GET AWAY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO MAKE A DRAMATIC MOVE.

>> I'M NOT SAYING VICTIMS DID ANYTHING WRONG IN THIS AT ALL.

I CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT IT BECAUSE OPEN INVESTIGATIONS.

>>Lauren: CAN YOU SPEAK TO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES COMES TO IMPLEMENTING AND ALSO FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE, ENFORCING PROTECTIVE ORDER?

>> SURE.

SOMETIMES WHEN WE TRY TO SERVE THEM, OR MY EXPERIENCE WHICH WAS TRYING TO SERVE THEM, PERSON COULD BE AT HOME KNOCKING ON THE DOOR.

>> AND KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO INTO THE HOUSE, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW WE THINK THEY'RE THERE, THEY'LL JUST NOT EVEN ANSWER THE DOOR.

MAKE SURE THEY'RE NEVER HOME OR LIKE AT WORK OR SOMETIMES EVEN EMPLOYERS MIGHT COVER FOR THEM.

I'VE SEEN THAT.

OR SUSPECTED.

>> SOME MUCH THE CHALLENGES.

>>Lauren: I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE, SAY TRO AT THE END OF THE DAY IS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO WOMEN OR COULD BE MEN AS WELL, THINKING ABOUT GETTING A TRO.

>> FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY ASSISTED CLIENTS TRO.

>> SEE VALUE IT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY PIECE OF PAPER IF SOMEONE IS NOT VALUING THAT, SOMEONE NOT TAKING IT SERIOUSLY, THEN WE ALSO NEED TO CONSIDER THAT.

MY APPROACH IS HAVING REAL LIFE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY CLIENTS, PEOPLE THAT I WORKING WITH, AND I WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT POSSIBLE RISKS THAT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE FILE IT.

I BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON COMING TO ME, KNOWS THAT PERSON BEST.

SO I'M HERE TO INFORM THEM OF THE LAW ALSO WANT TO HEAR AND DISCUSS REAL LIFE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT MAY HAPPEN.

THAT IS MY CONCERN.

I THINK SOMETHING, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER.

AS AN ATTORNEY.

>> SOMETHING THAT I TOOK WITH ME FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER LOOKING AT SAFETY PLAN, LETHALITY ASSESSMENT.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FACTORS THE SITUATION FACTORS IN THE SITUATION TO DETERMINE POSSIBILITY OF THEM DOING SOMETHING LIKE MURDER.

SO POSSIBLE FACTORS COULD BE CHOKING SOMEONE.

AND THAT IS GOING TO TELL ME THAT IT COULD INCREASE GENERALLY SITUATION DO.

>> THAT'S A HELPFUL WAY TO KIND OF GAUGE THINGS.

FROM A SURVIVOR'S PERSPECTIVE, IF I COULD ADD ON, I HAVE LETHALITY ASSESSMENT DONE WITH ME AND MY ADVOCATE, AND THAT WAS A REALITY CHECK FOR ME.

BECAUSE I WAS GOING THROUGH THE SITUATIONS FOR MANY YEARS.

AND OF COURSE HE DIDN'T MURDER ME.

BUT THERE IS AN INCREASE IN WHAT IS HAPPENING AND YOU'RE NOT FULLY ABLE TO ASSESS THE SITUATION AS OUTSIDE WOULD, SO HAVING AN ADVOCATE SIT DOWN WITH ME AND ASKING ME ABOUT THESE THINGS TELLING ME YOU'RE AT HIGH RISK FOR LETHALITY KIND A SHOCK.

TOOK ME A WHILE TO REALLY REGISTER THAT.

>> ANOTHER HELPFUL MEASURE.

>> SPEAKS BACK TO WE SPEAK ABOUT THAT, TRO, TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER ISN'T FOR EVERYONE.

>> LOOK AT LETHALITY ASSESSMENT BECAUSE LEAVING YOUR PARTNER, ABUSESSIVE PARTNER ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS TIMES FOR A VICTIM IT IN HER LIFE OR HIS LIFE.

SO WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THAT, EVERYBODY SHOULD GET A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER MAY NOT BE THE CASE BASED ON PERSON'S SITUATION WITH WHAT SHE KNOWS HER ABUSER TO BE LIKE.

IT VARY AS ACCORDING TO THE FAMILY AND WHAT SHE IS DEALING WITH.

>>Lauren: WHAT ARE SOME SIGNS FOR PEOPLE THAT MAYBE THEY ARE IN A DOMESTIC ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP AND MAYBE HAVEN'T ADMITTED IT OR COME TO THAT REALIZATION.

>> VERY GOOD DEFINITION.

I LOVE THIS DEFINITION.

>> COME FROM JUSTICE.GOV.

A PATTERN OF ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR ANY RELATIONSHIP USED BY ONE PARTNER TO MAINTAIN POWER OR CONTROL OVER ANOTHER PARTNER.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CAN BE PHYSICAL, SEXUAL, EMOTIONAL, ECONOMIC, PSYCHOLOGICAL OR TECHNOLOGICAL ACTIONS OR THREATS OR PATTERNS OF COERCIVE BEHAVIOR.

>> LONG DEFINITION BUT KIND OF HELPS US TO KNOW WHAT IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BECAUSE OFTENTIMES, VICTIMS DON'T KNOW THEY'RE IN A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATIONSHIP SOMEBODY LIKE AN ADVOCATE SAYS TO THEM YOU'RE ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS.

THINGS INVOLVED WITH DEFINITION.

WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?

POWER, CONTROL, FROM ONE PERSON OVER ANOTHER.

AND THEY MIGHT FEEL THAT PARTNER IS THEIR PROPERTY.

>> THEY OWN THAT PERSON.

AND THEY CAN MAKE THE DECISIONS OVER WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT PERSON.

SO THERE'S SOME OTHER AREAS IF YOU WANT TO TALK   ABOUT OTHER INDICATIONS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

>> I THINK YOU DID A VERY CONCLUSIVE OVERALL DEFINITION OF IT.

>> I THINK SO.

>> IS IT USUALLY ADVOCATE THAT RECOMMENDS SOMEONE GET A PROTECTIVE ORDER OR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER.

>> GOOD QUESTION.

INVOLVES GROUP THAT THE PERSON MIGHT BE WORKING WITH.

MIGHT BE FAMILY MEMBERS.

MAY BE ATTORNEY THAT WILL WORK WITH THE VICTIM TO SAY, THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER OR ADVOCATE.

OFTENTIMES, IT MAY BE HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY AT THAT BEEN TRAINED IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

SO MAYBE SCHOOL SOCIAL WORKER.

OR EMPLOYER MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL SOMEONE TO CONSIDER THAT.

POLICE OFFICER MIGHT ALSO.

>>Lauren: CAN YOU SPEAK ALSO TO THE TIME LINE?

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET A TRO, DO YOU NEED AN ATTORNEY TO GET A TRO?

>> YOU DO NOT NEED AN ATTORNEY.

YOU COME, BEST WAY TO IT COME TO THE COURTHOUSE BECAUSE IN THE FIRST CIRCUIT, WE DO HAVE COURT OFFICERS THAT WILL ASSIST OR AT LEAST REVIEW THE PAPERWORK.

ONCE YOU FILL OUT PAPERWORK, TAKEN UP TO A JUDGE.

COUPLE HOURS KNOW WHETHER IT'S BEEN GRAND OR DONATED.

HEARING IS ABOUT 2 WEEKS AWAY.

ONE THING PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THE NOT EFFECTIVE UNLESS IT'S SERVED ON THE OTHER SIDE.

>> PERSON CAN CONTACT THE VICTIM, UNLESS IT'S BEEN SERVED, NOT A VIOLATION.

MONIQUE'S DEFINITION, ANOTHER THING PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS MOST RISKY TIME FOR A VICTIM IS WHEN THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE THE ABUSER.

>> BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR POWER AND CONTROL.

AND THAT IS WHEN THEY BECOME THE MOST DANGEROUS.

SO WHEN THEY MAKE THAT DIFFICULT DECISION, I'M GOING TO LEAVE, GET ORDER FOR PROTECTION ALSO THE MOST DIFFICULT AND MOST DANGEROUS TIME FOR THEM.

>>Lauren: DID YOU SPEAK ON THAT.

>>I WAS GOING TO ADD THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, MAYBE WHEN THE TRO IS FINALLY SERVED, EVERYONE KIND OF LIKE RELAXES AND GOOD, NOW PROTECTED.

>> HE'S PROTECTED.

BUT NO.

OPPOSITE TIME EVERYONE GOT TO BE EVEN MORE ALERT AND COGNIZANT WHAT'S GOING ON AND MAKING SURE I WAS SERVED WITH IT.

>> I KNOW THAT MY, WIFE OR WHOEVER I KNOW HER WORK PATTERNS.

WHAT KIND OF CAR SHE DRIVES, WHAT TIME SHE LEAVES, FAMILIES GOT TO COME TOGETHER AND BE AWARE.

HAVE THE VICTIM ALWAYS HAVE CELL PHONE CHARGED.

ALWAYS HAVE GAS IN THE CAR.

HAVE ESCAPE ROUTE OR ALWAYS BE READY TO AND LET YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

ALWAYS NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH YOU IF IT'S POSSIBLE AT ALL TIMES.

SAFETY IN NUMBERS.

>>Lauren: USED THE WORD EVERYONE.

>> COULD YOU TELL FAMILY AND FRIENDS IN YOUR CIRCLE WHAT'S GOING ON?

>> YES.

COMMUNICATION, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

LET THEM KNOW.

SOMETIMES THEY MAY NOT BE TO SAY WHAT'S GOING ON AT HOME.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY KNOW IT.

EVEN EMPLOYERS, GUY JUST SHOWS UP ONE DAY, DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE HAD A TRO SERVED ON HIM, AND HE'S HERE VIOLATING IT.

I THINK IMPORTANT THAT THE AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW AS POSSIBLE.

>>Lauren: IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SEE WHERE VICTIMS DON'T WANT TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE IN INNER CIRCLE OR WORKPLACE?

>> SHAME AND STIGMA SUCH A HUGE PART OF EVERY DAY FOR VICTIM.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY BELIEVING THEIR STORY AND HEARING THEM.

>> NOT MINIMIZE IF THEY'RE GOING TO DISCLOSE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR ABUSE, NOT QUITE SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

>> DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT.

AND IT HURTS.

PHYSICAL VIOLENCE.

SO WE DO NEED TO SQUASH THAT STIGMA AND SHAME AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND MAKE SURE THAT'S NOT SECRET SO TO SPEAK, SO OF COURSE YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHO YOU SPEAK TO.

>> IF AWE TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER, MAKE SURE YOU TELL SOMEBODY THAT YOU FEEL SAFE WITH, THAT YOU CAN TRUST.

GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE IN THE PLAN TO STAY SAFE AS WELL.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, JUST STILL SO MUCH STIGMA AND SHAME SURROUNDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

>> I WISH WE COULD GET RID THAT.

COULD PROBABLY HELP MORE IT COMMUNITY MEMBERS IF THEY'RE ABLE TO GO AND TELL SOMEBODY THEY NEED HELP.

>>Lauren: I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID.

ABOUT PROTECTIVE ORDER BASICALLY, NOT GOOD UNTIL THEY'RE SERVED.

>> HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET SERVED AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT PROCESS.

>> REQUIRE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SERVE.

AND IF THERE IS STATEMENT IN THE PETITION SAYS PERSON HAS GUNS, FOR HPD, THAT MAKES IT LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY DO HAVE TO GET SPECIAL SERVICE.

>> SSD.

CORRECT.

>> TO BE ABLE TO SERVE IT.

SO AND AS DETECTIVE ALL RIGHT.

YOU SAID, A LOT OF TIMES ANSWER THE DOOR AND SAY THAT'S NOT ME.

AND IT'S JUST SO DIFFICULT IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE SERVED, THEY CAN AVOID BEING SERVED.

>>Lauren: AVOID BEING SERVED, MAYBE THIS MIGHT BE WHERE YOU CAN JUMP IN.

>> HOW LONG CAN THEY GET AWAY WITH NOT BEING SERVED THEIR TRO?

>> OUR POLICY, WE HAVE 7 DAYS CAN MAKING ATTEMPTS EVERY WATCH, AS SOON AS RIGHT BEFORE FIRST THING I REMEMBER MY SERGEANT, PUTTING THAT TRO DOWN ON DESK IN FRONT OF ME.

>> GO TO THE HOUSE AND MAKE SURE YOU CHECK.

FOR MY EXPERIENCE, JUST KEEP GOING AND GOING AND LOGGED IT.

PAPER ATTACHED TO IT.

LOG THE DATE, TIME OFFICER GOES.

MAKE SURE THERE IS A RECORD OF IT.

JUST KEEP GOING AND GOING UNTIL USUALLY, TO THE COURT DATE WAS GETTING CLOSER, I BELIEVE.

THERE'S A COURT DATE IS ON THE TRO SUPPOSED TO APPEAR.

LET'S SAY SERVED JUDGE MENTIONED THAT WITHIN 2 WEEKS OR SO.

SOMETIMES COURT DATE WILL BE HERE AND STILL HAVEN'T SERVED IT YET.

WHAT DO WE DO?

I BELIEVE OUR POLICY SAYS, WATCH COMMANDER WILL CONTACT THE COURT, LET THEM KNOW.

>>Lauren: WHAT DO YOU TELL THE VICTIMS THAT YOU WORK WITH AND YOUR CLIENTS WHAT DO IN THAT MEANTIME WHILE MAYBE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE PROTECTIVE ORDER TO BE SERVED?

>> WELL, ACTUALLY, KIND OF FUNNY WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME, WHEN I WORKING WITH CLIENT, THEY PRETTY MUCH ALREADY BEEN SERVED TRO HAS BEEN SERVED WHEN AT THE COME TO ME.

WAITING FOR THAT, TRYING TO THINK BACK TO SITUATION.

OF COURSE I ALWAYS ASSESS SAFETY WHENEVER THERE'S A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION, WHETHER I'M DOING A DIVORCE, HAVEN'T NECESSARILY CALLED IT OUT, AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION, SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT I WOULD DO.

AND THEN ANOTHER THING I MIGHT ASK THEM ABOUT IS WHAT POLICE STATION WENT TO.

WOULD THEY SPOKE TO.

SOMETIMES I'LL CHECK IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO TRY THEIR EMPLOYER.

LOOK AT OTHER POLICE STATIONS THAT MAY BE NEARBY.

GO THEY'RE HAVING DIFFICULTY.

I WAS WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO PROVIDE SERVICE INSTRUCTIONS, PHOTO OF THE PET OWNER, DESCRIPTION OF THEIR CAR, LICENSE PLATE.

WHATNOT.

>> PHOTO OF THE PERSON.

>> VERY HELPFUL.

CAME TO MIND AS WE WERE DISCUSSING.

RECALL.

>> GOOD IDEA.

>> VICTIMS ALREADY PROVIDE?

>> NOT FROM MY EXPERIENCE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN IN PATROL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

>> MAYBE IT'S CHANGED SINCE THEN.

BUT FROM I'VE SEEN AND REPORTS THAT COME THROUGH, TRO CASE AS A DETECTIVE.

SOMETIMES THERE IS GREAT HELP FOR US BUT NOT ALWAYS NOT SERVED WITHIN THE 2 WEEKS, WHEN THE FIRST HEARING IS, TRO GOOD FOR SIX MONTHS.

CONTINUE HEARING AND ISSUE NEW HEARING DAY.

>> CONTINUE IT CLOSE TO COURT TO THE SIX MONTHS TO GIVE AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE WE DO TRY TO TELL THOSE FILING THAT KEEP CONTACTING HPD.

TRY TO GIVE THEM AS.

INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.

AND ESPECIALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS.

THAT NEED TO BE SERVED.

>> EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

>> IF YOU CAN TELL THEM WHAT LOCATION THEY TEND TO GO TO, ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN PROVIDE, WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>>Lauren: WITH YOU'RE FILING FOR A TRO, IS THAT THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT GETS ASKED.

>> PAPERWORK, ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBER, NAME, THAT'S PUT ON THERE.

BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS A LOT OF VICTIMS WILL TAKE THE PAPERWORK TO HPD.

SO WHEN THEY GO TAKE IT TO HPD, THAT'S WHEN THEY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

>>Lauren: I WANT TO ASK YOU, WHAT ARE THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS IF SOMEONE VIOLATES A TRO.

>> ACTUALLY A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.

AT THAT COULD BE PUNISHABLE UP TO A YEAR AS WELL AS A FINE.

>>Lauren: THEN DETECTIVE, IF YOU CAN ADD ON TO THAT, WHAT HAPPENS, LET'S SAY, MAYBE I'M THE VICTIM.

HYPOTHETICALLY, DOMESTIC ABUSE SITUATION.

HAVE A TRO.

>> THE CALL HPD IF THAT PERSON VIOLATE IT IS.

WHAT THEN HAPPENS THEN.

>> ENCOURAGE THAT AS SOON AS THERE IS VIOLATION.

TO POLICE REPORT IT IMMEDIATELY.

MAKE CHECKS.

COMPUTER SYSTEM.

DISPATCHER MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS SERVED.

THERE'S PHONE CALL PROOF OF SERVICE THAT HAS TO BE SIGNED.

DATED AND TIME.

SO THAT IS THE KEY RIGHT THERE.

SEE THAT, AND WE SEE READ THE REPORTS AND SAY OKAY, GOOD, HE OR SHE WAS SERVED ALREADY, HAVE THE PERSON WRITE WE CALL HPD 252 IN THAT STATEMENT.

VICTIM RIGHT IT OUT.

>> DATE AND TIME ALL CALLED ME.

NOT ALLOWED TO CALL.

MAKE THE CASE AND BELIEVE IT'S MISDEMEANOR OFFENSE AND THEN LOOK FOR HIM.

POLICY SAYS YOU SHALL ATTEMPT TO LOCATE AND ARREST THIS PERSON.

SO THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

THERE WAS A PRIORITIES ESPECIALLY THESE ONES BECAUSE THE LIABILITY AND JUST THE RISK OF HARM TO THE VICTIM IS SO GREAT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ALL THE CHECKS WE CAN.

SENT A FOLLOW‑UP OFFICER.

LET'S SAY YOU LIVED IN HONOLULU, BUT OFFENDER LIVES MAYBE KAHUKU OR PEARL CITY WHERE I GREW UP.

THEN WE'LL HAVE AN OFFICER IN PEARL CITY GO.

TO GO TO THE HOUSE AND CHECK.

THEY'LL BE IN THE REPORT TOO.

>>Lauren: WHAT RESOURCES ARE OUT THERE FOR THOSE DOMESTIC ABUSE SITUATIONS, VIEWER'S QUESTION.

>> ROGER FROM LANAI.

>> SAY I THINK TROs WORK TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

>> BUT NEED TO HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE THE VICTIMS CAN GO SOMEWHERE TO GET THE SUPPORT THEY NEED.

NEED A PLACE TO STAY AND SOMEWHERE TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THEM.

ESPECIALLY IF THE ABUSER IS THE BREAD WINNER, LOVE FOR YOU TO CHIME IN, AND CHANTRELLE.

>> THANK TO YOU CALLER.

HOW SUPPORTED IS THAT STATEMENT?

SO GET EMOTIONAL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES, NOT A LOT, QUITE A BIT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

TO GET RESOURCES.

PERHAPS FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

>> CASE MANAGEMENT.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS ALL ACROSS THE STATE.

INDIVIDUALS CAN CALL DIFFERENT AGENCIES ON THEIR ISLAND.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER HELP LINE.

IF ANYONE CALLS OUR HELP LINE, I KNOW THE NUMBER WILL BE POSTED, WE CAN GET INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

ALSO HAWAII STAKEHOLDER COALITION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, A NUMBER OF AGENCIES THAT THEY CAN CALL AGENCIES QUITE A BIT OF ASSISTANCE OUT THERE.

I THINK WE DO NEED MORE ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE MAUI WILDFIRE DISASTER.

I KNOW THAT MAUI SUFFERING A BIT IN AND THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT EXTRA HELP.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE.

>>Lauren: CHANTRELLE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR NONPROFIT AND WHAT YOU DO.

>> YES.

I'M WORKING WITH PU'UHONUA 'O KA 'ULULEHUA.

UNDER KOHANA.

SURVIVORS MORE ON ONE‑ON‑ONE AND GROUP BASIS AND WE FOCUS ON WORKING WITH KANAKA OR NATIVE HAWAIIANS BECAUSE WE ARE HAWAIIAN CULTURAL ORGANIZATION.

IN REGARDS TO THE PU'UHONUA 'O KA 'ULULEHUA ITSELF AND HOW WE OPERATE, WORK WITH EVERYBODY.

COMING IN FROM HAWAIIAN CULTURAL PRACTICES.

ANOTHER THING.

BUT WHAT WE DO IS TRY TO PROVIDE HOLISTIC SERVICES.

SO WE DO HAVE ONE‑ON‑ONE SUPPORT, SOMETHING I WOULD BE MEETING WITH A SURVIVOR ON.

>> GROUP CLASSES WHETHER THEY BE CULTURAL CLASSES OR TALK STORY SESSIONS.

>> SUPPORT OR FOLLOW‑UPS TO WEEKLY CLASS.

>> ONE‑ON‑ONE SESSIONS, ME AND SURVIVOR WILL MEET WITH THEM EITHER IN PERSON OR ON ZOOM.

SO WE CAN HAVE THAT FACE‑TO‑FACE CONNECTION.

THAT TIME TOGETHER.

CULTURALLY, SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND THEN ALSO, WE HAVE THAT TIME TO DISCUSS INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.

AND THAT COULD RANGE FROM FINANCINGS HOUSING TO CHILD CARE AND WHATNOT.

WITH OUR CONNECTIONS, WORK WITH THE SURVIVOR ONE‑ON‑ONE.

>> NOT JUST PROVIDING THEM RESOURCE, HERE IS AND YOU'RE OFF, MORE SO TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THEIR NEEDS.

WE DO SMART GOALS.

SO ACTUALLY WORKING ON A PLAN FOR THOSE GOALS.

SHORT‑TERM AND LONGTERM.

BE FINANCIAL OR EDUCATION.

WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

AND REALLY TRY TO WORK WITH THEM AND ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY HELPFUL, JUST TO ADD TO THIS, KIND OF BEING LIKE ACCOUNTABILITY PERSON OR ANOTHER PERSON TO TOUCH BASE WITH.

SO IF I DO SET A GOAL WITH SOMEONE, I'M NOT NECESSARILY FORCING THEM TO HAVE TO MEET WITH ME AGAIN.

PICTURES, STEPS THEY ARE TAKING, WANT ME TO CHECK IN ON THEM.

DID YOU CALL THAT AGENCY?

DO YOU NEED ME TO CALL THEM WITH YOU?

JUST BEING MORE OF LIKE A HANDHOLDING TYPE OF APPROACH IF THEY NEED TO MEET WITH SOMEONE ELSE, WARM HANDOFF.

I'LL SPEAK TO THE PERSON.

WORK WITH ANOTHER ATTORNEY, TOUCH BASE WITH THEM, BREAK THE ICE, GENTLY HAND THEM OVER TO THE OTHER ORGANIZATION AS OPPOSED TO JUST SENDING THEM OFF AND LASTLY, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS.

SOMEONE THAT'S CLOSE TO HELP THEM.

I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT BY IS WHY KEEP OUR GROUP SMALL.

ABLE TO HAVE STRONG BONDS.

>>Lauren: AWESOME.

OBVIOUSLY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER GREAT ORGANIZATION.

RESOURCE OUT THERE.

NEED MORE.

TELL OUR VIEWERS HOW CAN REACH OUT TO YOU AND IF ANYONE WATCHING WANTS TO BE A PART OF YOUR NONPROFIT OR NEEDS HELP.

HOW CAN THEY REACH YOU.

>> YES.

I BELIEVE I GAVE CONTACT INFORMATION TO POSTED ON SCREEN.

I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>>Lauren: SHOWING IT RIGHT NOW.

>> PERFECT.

I CAN BE CONTACTED OR PUUHONUA VIA TEXT OR BY PHONE CALL AT THAT NUMBER.

>>Lauren: READ IT OFF.

IN DAYS.

ON THE SCREEN.

808‑865‑2195.

I ALSO NOW WANT TO MOVE ON TO QUESTION I THINK EVERYONE MIGHT WANT TO CHIME IN ON.

DIRECT IT TO DETECTIVE.

IT'S A CALLER.

THIS PERSON IS SAYING I HAD A NEIGHBOR WOULD WENT OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND BROUGHT A WOMAN HOME WITH HIM.

AFTER A WHILE, HE BEGAN ABUSING HER.

SPOKE WITH ME ABOUT THE SITUATION.

BUT HER ENGLISH WAS VERY POOR.

WAS CAN WE DO TO HELP SOMEBODY WHEN THEY HAVE VERY BAD ENGLISH AND AREN'T FROM THIS COUNTRY?

TOUCHES ON THAT TOPIC OF IF YOU SUSPECT SOMEONE ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP, HOW DO WE HELP THEM?

>> CALLER TOO, BECAUSE SHOWS THEY CARE.

ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS I HAD PATROL, NEIGHBORS TURN OFF.

WE HAVE LANGUAGE SERVICES AVAILABLE.

IF THAT NEIGHBOR WANTS TO CALL 911 ON BEHALF OF THAT PERSON, SHE CAN.

CAN AGREE TO MEET WITH THE OFFICER AND KIND OF BE LIKE THE HE SPOKESPERSON IN A WAY OR SORT OF LIKE THE PERSON THAT BECAUSE SHE CAN SPEAK ENGLISH AND COMMUNICATE.

WHAT'S GOING ON.

ALSO HAVE OFFICER CAN CALL FOR A TRANSLATOR HELP WITH THE 252.

OFFICERS ARE BILINGUAL.

READ, WRITE, SPEAK.

OTHER LANGUAGES TOO.

CAN DO AT THAT AS WELL.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT PERSON TO DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO US, CALL 911, AND JUST BE SORT OF SERVE AS THE GO BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE VICTIM AND US SO WE CAN HELP THIS PERSON.

>>Lauren: JUDICIARY HAS LANGUAGE SERVICES WHEN THEY COME TO FILE.

WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST THEM WITH THAT.

WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND IF FOR SOMEONE WHO MAY BE ON THE OUTSIDE BUT SUSPECT THERE COULD BE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ISSUE GOING ON?

>> NUMBER ONE, LIKE THIS CALLER, THIS CALLER SAY, BELIEVE THEM.

BELIEVE THEM.

TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

IF SEEKING OUT HELP, HEARING SOMETHING, OR SOMETHING JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.

OR IT'S NOT NORMAL.

PERHAPS SHE'S THERE EVERY WEEK.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU DON'T SEE HER FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.

COMES OUT AGAIN.

BUILD UP RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PERSON AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

RECOMMEND THAT PERSON CALL TO DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

211, POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE IS CFS PACK.

DVAC.

KEEPING IN TOUCH OR BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THAT PERSON.

>>Lauren: IS IT POSSIBLE THOUGH THAT MAYBE CALLING POLICE COULD MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE FOR THAT PERSON?

>> YES.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE SAFETY PLAN OR LETHALITY ASSESSMENT PERHAPS TO SAY, MAYBE CALL THE POLICE MAYBE CALLING 911 ISN'T BEST ANSWER.

OTHER NUMBER TO CALL.

PLACE THEY CAN STAY TO FOR SAFETY.

ALSO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS AS WELL MOST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH SOMEBODY SPEAKS OF DIFFERENT LANGUAGE.

I KNOW FOR OUR HELP LINE, DVAC, MULTIPLE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE DIVERSITY IN OUR STAFF SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SPEAK AND HELP PEOPLE THAT HAVE OTHER LANGUAGES.

>>Lauren: YOU TOUCHED ON ONE POINT THAT LEADS ME TO THAT VIEWER QUESTION.

>> JON FROM MAKAKILO, ARE THERE ANY WOMEN SHELTERS ON OAHU OR OTHER ISLANDS?

>> YES.

NOW I DON'T REPRESENT ALL OF THOSE AGENCIES I KNOW THAT ON OAHU, THERE ARE WOMEN'S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS.

MAUI, BIG ISLAND, I BELIEVE LANAI AS WELL.

AGAIN, IF ANYONE NEEDS MORE INFORMATION, I WOULD REACH OUT TO THE HAWAII STATE COALITION AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE ON THEIR WEBSITE, LISTING OF RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

>>Lauren: I KNOW EARLIER, YOU SHARED THAT YOU WERE SURVIVOR YOURSELF.

WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND TO MAYBE SOMEBODY WATCHING, WHO IS FAMILY OR FRIEND, OF SOMEONE WHERE THEY SUSPECT DOMESTIC ABUSE MIGHT BE GOING ON?

HOW CAN THAT PERSON HELP?

>> I KNOW THEY GIVE STATISTICS, 7 TIMES FOR SOMEONE TO LEAVE.

>> DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION FOR MYSELF, I WAS IN THE RELATIONSHIP FOR 9‑AND‑A‑HALF YEARS, TO GIVING SOME KIND OF GAUGE.

SO I THINK WHAT REALLY HELPS ME, ONLY SPEAK FROM MY OWN LIFE STORY, IS BEING ABLE TO HAVE RESOURCES AND PEOPLE THROUGHOUT MY EXPERIENCE.

BECAUSE I CAN'T SAY THAT ONE PERSON STUCK AROUND THAT LONG.

NINE‑AND‑A‑HALF YEARS.

BUT THROUGHOUT MY EXPERIENCE, SOMEHOW I ALWAYS HAD SOMEONE TO TOUCH BASE.

DIFFERENT TIMES IN MY LIFE.

AND TOWARDS THE END, WHILE WAYS IN LAW SCHOOL, ABLE TO KIND OF SHARE THAT WITH SOMEONE WHILE I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL.

THAT PERSON HELPED ME THROUGH TO THE END.

I REALLY THINK IT WASN'T JUST THAT END LINE.

FROM THE START TO FINISH.

I REMEMBER POLICE OFFICER AT ONE POINT RESPONDING AND HE HAD BEEN TO OUR HOME SO MANY TIMES THAT HE KIND OF KNEW ME ALREADY.

AND HE SAW HAD MY BA, MA, AT THE TIME, AND HE WAS LIKE, LOOK ALL OF YOUR DEGREES.

JUST LIKE, YOU DON'T NEED THIS.

HE WAS TALKING TO ME ONE‑ON‑ONE.

>> ALWAYS REMEMBER HIM AND THAT WAS A MOMENT THAT STUCK WITH ME.

LATER ON IN THE FINISH LINE.

WHEN HE WAS PROBABLY HERE IN THE MIDDLE AND BEGINNING.

I JUST THINK THAT KIND OF JUST BEING THERE SHOWING GRACE, AND BEING SAFE PLACE SPARKED PUUHONUA SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO.

WITH SAFETY OF COURSE.

BECAUSE DANGEROUS SITUATION TO GET INVOLVED.

I DO CAUTION THAT.

NOT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE FORCE TO PUT THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION IF IT'S A DANGEROUS ONE.

>>Lauren: ON THE OUTSIDE, WANT TO HELP YOUR FAMILY OR FRIEND, HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT LINE WHEN TO CALL POLICE OR JUST TALK TO THAT PERSON?

HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT?

>> I THINK SHOWING THAT YOU CARE REACHING OUT TO THAT PERSON.

BEING CARING NEIGHBOR OR COWORKER.

MAYBE IN SCHOOL TOGETHER, BUILDING RELATIONSHIP ASKING HOW ARE THEY DOING?

NOTICED SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT PERSON, PERHAPS LOOKING AT THEM AND SAYING DO YOU NEED A NUMBER TO CALL?

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THIS?

I REALLY AGAIN BELIEVING THEM, DON'T SHAME THEM, DON'T JUDGE THEM, JUST SAY I'M HERE FOR YOU.

BECAUSE EVEN WHEN CHANTRELLE TALKED ABOUT COULD TAKE UP TO 7 TIMES, SO IN THAT TIME, IF YOU'RE THAT WOMAN GOING THROUGH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, KEEP BELIEVING HER.

LET HER KEEP COMING BACK.

THE DAY MAY COME WHEN SHE IS DONE.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

JUST SUPPORTING THEM AND LISTENING TO THEM.

MEANS A LOT.

>>Lauren: SUPPORTIVE PERSON FOR THEM TO TURN IT.

I HAVE QUESTION FOUR.

DAVID FROM MILILANI.

>> ASKING ARE ALL TROS APPROVED F NOT WHAT ARE SOME OF REASONS THEY ARE NOT APPROVED?

>> NOT APPROVED, IF THEY DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

FOR FAMILY COURT, TROS MAY NOT BE APPROVED IF THEY'RE NOT INVOLVING A FAMILY OR HOUSEHOLD MEMBER.

BECAUSE FAMILY COURT TROS, ARE ONLY FAMILY OR HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT, IT HAS TO BE RELATIVELY CLOSE FAMILIAR RELATIONSHIP.

CAN'T BE FIFTH COUSIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT, YOU NEED TO GO DISTRICT COURT.

TO FILE.

AND DISTRICT COURT IS MORE OF HARASSMENT TYPE OF TRO.

VERSUS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRO.

SO IF THE ALLEGATIONS DON'T NECESSARILY RISE TO THE LEVEL OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, IT WILL BE DENIED.

>>Lauren: CASE WHERE IS THEY'RE DENIED USUALLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ATTORNEY, FILING TRO FOR THEM.

>> MAJORITY NOT FILING BY ATTORNEYS.

>> BY THEMSELVES.

5% HAVE ATTORNEYS WHEN THEY FILE.

HAVING A ATTORNEY OR NOT, IS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

IT'S WHAT THEY WRITE IN IT.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO THEM WHEN AT THE FILE.

ALL WE HAVE WHAT IS WRITTEN ON THE PAPER R DON'T PROVIDE ENOUGH DETAIL, WE MAY NOT HAVE BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS ACTUALLY OCCURRING.

SO THE MORE DETAIL THEY CAN PROVIDE, DATES THEY CAN PROVIDE, THE BETTER IT WOULD BE.

TO GET IT GRANTED.

>>Lauren: SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF INSTANCE?

>> MORE SPECIFIC YOU CAN BE BETTER IT WOULD BE.

>>Lauren: OKAY.

>> ALSO HELPS OFFICER.

THEY'LL READ IT, SEE IT BEFORE THEY SERVE IT.

GET IDEA, WHAT IS THIS PERSON LIKE GOING FACE‑TO‑FACE WITH.

KIND OF KNOW, SLAPPED HER.

OR HIM OR HER PUNCHED HER.

HURT HIS HER DOG.

VERY HELPFUL.

>>Lauren: REALLY LIKE THAT.

JUST REMINDING ME TOO THAT SOMETIMES WHEN CLIENTS COME TO ME WITH PETITION ALREADY FILED AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE TRIAL OR HEARING DATE, THEY MIGHT HAVE ONLY LISTED LIKE ONE OR TWO INCIDENCE.

WITH REALLY, THERE'S LIKE A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST THEY DIDN'T LIST.

GO TO THE COURTHOUSE, WITH YOU FINALLY BRING YOURSELF DO THAT STEP, VERY EMOTIONAL.

DIFFICULT.

SO ONE THING I FOUND HELPFUL THAT I UTILIZED MYSELF, WAS KIND OF WRITING IT OUT BEFOREHAND.

AND THEN GOING TO THE COURTHOUSE.

THINKING OF THINGS IF YOU CAN.

BEFOREHAND.

THEY DO HAVE THE PETITION FORMS ON FAMILY COURT WEBSITE.

WHEN I LAST CHECKED, AND SO YOU COULD PRINT IT OUT AND KIND OF JOT THOSE THINGS DOWN BEFOREHAND IF THAT'S HELPFUL.

>> AND ALSO, WHEN YOU DON'T PUT EVERYTHING DOWN, AT THE HEARING, LIMITED TO WHAT YOU PUT ON THE PETITION.

>> YOU CAN'T BRING UP THINGS THAT YOU FAILED TO PUT IN.

BECAUSE IT'S NOTICE TO THE OTHER SIDE.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE NOTICE TO PREPARE THEIR OWN ARGUMENTS.

SO IF YOU FORGOT POTENTIALLY FIRST INCIDENT.

>> CAN'T BRING IT UP AT THE HEARING.

ANOTHER DIFFICULT ISSUE ABSOLUTELY WRITE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

>>Lauren: CAN IT BE TOO LONG.

>> NO.

YOU CAN ADD CONTINUATION PAGES.

YES.

ABSOLUTELY.

>>Lauren: WRITE DOWN EVERY DETAIL.

>> EVERY DETAIL.

>>Lauren: DETECTIVE, YOU BROUGHT SOMETHING UP, DETAILS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN THE TRO, OFFICERS READ IT, GET AN IDEA WHAT TYPE OF GUY THEY'RE SERVING IT TO.

DOES THE DETAIL EVER GIVE YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION YOU MIGHT CHANGE HOW YOU APPROACH WHEN YOU'RE SERVING THAT PERSON?

>> MAYBE BRINGING MORE OFFICERS?

>> WE ALWAYS GO AT LEAST HAVE A COVER.

WHEN WE GO TO ANY TYPE OF DOMESTIC CASE.

I THINK IT WOULD, MORE INFORMATION THEN THEY CAN GIVE TO THEIR PARTNERS LET THEM KNOW.

WATCH CHANGED, GET THAT TRO IF IT HASN'T BEEN SERVED.

>> LOOK AT IT.

GUYS KNOW THIS, WE GOT HERE.

WHAT'S BEEN SAID.

MORE INFORMATION, THE BETTER I GUESS JUST LEVEL, LET THEM KNOW ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

>>Lauren: MORE DETAIL, THE BETTER.

HOW DO COURTS BALANCE THE NEED FOR IMMEDIATE PROTECTION WHILE ALSO BALANCING RIGHTS FOR THE ACCUSED?

>> ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION IF IT SHOWS ALLEGATIONS SHOWED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WE WILL GRANT IT.

WE ERR ON THAT SIDE OF CAUTION UNTIL HEARING.

>> JUST GO 2 WEEKS, 2 WEEKS OF BEING SAFE VERSUS RISKING NOT GRANTING IT AND HAVING SOMETHING HAPPEN.

I WOULD RATHER BE SAFE.

>>Lauren: PEARL CITY, QUESTION FOR DETECTIVE LU.

OFFICER WAS TALKING ABOUT SERVING TROs AND HOW PEOPLE WILL SAY THAT'S NOT ME.

CAN'T POLICE COMPARE NAME AND INFORMATION WITH DRIVER'S LICENSE, PHOTOS, AND OFFICERS USE BODY CAMERAS TO CAPTURE IMAGE TO SEE IF THEY ARE LYING TO THEM AND CHARGE THEM LATER?

>> REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

GLAD THEY ASKED THAT BECAUSE YES, WE DO, ABLE TO, BEFORE WE GO TO THE HOUSE, WE CAN LOOK AND BRING UP THE NAME OF PERSON, DATE OF BIRTH, RUN IT, IF THEY HAVE A RECORD.

OR DRIVER'S LICENSE.

WE CAN SEE A PHOTOGRAPH.

MIGHT SHOW TYPE OF VEHICLE THEY DRIVE.

GO TO UP TO THE HOUSE.

YEAH, HONDA REGISTERED.

>> THERE IS LICENSE PLATE.

AND GUY AT THE DOOR, TALKING TO ME.

KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THAT PERSONAL.

SO MAYBE WE'LL ASK LITTLE MORE QUESTIONS.

AND LITTLE MORE AND YEAH, HOPEFULLY GET THE DESIRED RESULT.

SERVING IT.

>>Lauren: I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

>> MAJORITY OF THEM ARE SERVED.

SO IT'S NOT A SITUATION WHERE MOST ARE NOT BEING SERVED.

MAJORITY OF THEM ARE BEING SERVED.

>>Lauren: HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE CASES WHEN THERE MIGHT BE LACK OF EVIDENCE?

>> BECAUSE WE'RE NEUTRAL, WE CANNOT NECESSARILY POOL INFORMATION OUT.

IF WE DO HAVE ASK QUESTIONS, WE ARE ALLOW TO ASK QUESTIONS.

BUT IT IS UP TO THE PARTIES TO PRESENT THEIR EVIDENCE.

THEY CAN BRING EXHIBITS.

THEY CAN BRING WITNESSES.

THEY'RE NOT LIMITED TO JUST WHAT THEY HAVE.

THERE ARE SITUATIONS IF THERE'S A ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE TOWARDS A CHILD, WE WILL CALL IT STAMP IT.

WE WILL STAMP IT FOR CHILD WELFARE SERVICE DO INVESTIGATION.

THAT IS ANOTHER LAYER OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN HAVE BECAUSE SOCIAL WORKER WILL ACTUALLY GO OUT AND IF THE CHILD OF AN AGE, THAT THEY CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, THAT INFORMATION FROM THE CHILD WILL ALSO COME IN AS PART OF THE EVIDENCE.

>>Lauren: YOU BROUGHT UP CHILD ABUSE.

>> I WANTED TO THIS QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, ARE THERE EVER INSTANCES WHERE CHILDREN CAN CALL IF THEY KNOW OR WITNESS THEIR PARENTS IN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS PERHAPS I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE OLDER CHILD LIKE A TEENAGER?

>> CAN THEY CALL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER.

>>Lauren: YES.

WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND OR WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN OTHER CHILDREN DO?

>> I DON'T KNOW OF CHILDREN CALLING THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER HELP LINE.

I KNOW WE WOULDN'T TURN THEM AWAY.

IF A ADOLESCENT OR MINOR DID CALL US AND MAKE A STATEMENT THAT OR ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE WOULD DO, WE COULD WORK WITH THEM OR HELP THEM.

IN THAT INSTANCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

GOES TO SCHOOL AS WELL, THE STUDENTS MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING TO THEIR COUNSELORS OR THEIR TEACHERS, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING HAPPENING AT HOME.

>> THIS MIGHT LEAD TO GREATER TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WHICH WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO.

BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT IN A ADULTS THAT LISTEN A CHILD TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE WOULD HEAR THEM.

AND HELP GET THEM THE INFORMATION THEY NEED.

>>Lauren: DETECTIVE YOU WORKED IN THE CHILD ABUSE DETAIL.

FOR SOME TIME.

YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY SAW IT FIRSTHAND.

WHAT KIND OF IMPACT LONGTERM DOES CHILDREN, OF MAYBE PARENTS, IN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP, WHAT KIND OF LONGTERM IMPACTS DOES THAT HAVE ON OUR KEIKI?

>> ONLY IN THE UNIT FOR A SHORT TIME.

BUT WORKED WITH SOME GREAT, GREAT PEOPLE.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY HIS NAME.

BEST PARTNERS IN CHILD ABUSE RIGHT NOW, GREAT HEART.

A LOT OF HEART ALL PEOPLE WORKED WITH.

MORE FROM THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SIDE OF IT.

BECOMES LIKE A PATTERN.

>> IF THE CHILD GROWS UP IN ABUSIVE HOUSEHOLD.

THEY CAN SEE OH, MY DAD HIT MY MOM.

THAT'S HOW THEY ARGUE.

THIS IS NORMAL.

THIS IS OKAY.

SO THEY GET INTO RELATIONSHIP AND GET OLDER HAVE A BOYFRIEND THAT HITS THEM TOO.

THINK IT'S NORMAL WHAT I SAW GROWING UP.

THAT CAN BE ONE.

THINGS.

NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT THEY SEE, THEY SEE AS NORMAL IF THE PATTERN IS NOT BROKEN.

>> RESEARCH SHOWS THAT CHILDREN THAT ARE IN HOMES WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THEY TEND TO LEAD MORE RISKY LIVES.

GET INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AS JUVENILES.

MAY HAVE TEEN PREGNANCIES.

MAY GET INVOLVED WITH DRUGS.

GRADES GO DOWN.

SO THESE ARE ALL SIGNS OF CHILD THAT IS IN A HOUSEHOLD THAT MAY HAVE SOME DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR TRAUMA GOING ON IN THE HOME.

>>Lauren: WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE SOME OF GAPS CURRENTLY IN OUR SYSTEM WHEN IT COMES TO RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE?

>> WELL, I THINK SPEAKING FOR MY OWN PERSPECTIVE, I SAID THAT IT TOOK NINE‑AND‑A‑HALF YEARS.

IT WASN'T BECAUSE I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE SOMETHING.

IT WASN'T BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE.

SOMETIMES IT REALLY WAS BEING ABLE TO SURVIVE.

I WAS VERY YOUNG.

I WAS 20 WHEN I HAD MY FIRST CHILD.

ACCESS TO CHILD CARE.

>> SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THAT IS THE CONNECTION?

ONE BIG THING, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW I WOULD SUPPORT US.

BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE CHILD CARE.

AND WITHOUT THAT, CHILD CARE, I COULDN'T WORK.

OR COULDN'T GO TO SCHOOL.

WHERE WOULD WE LIVE?

ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT RESOURCES.

AND WE CAN ALL EMPATHIZE WITH THE FACTS VERY EXPENSIVE IN HAWAII TODAY.

AND SO WITH THE HIGH COST OF LIVING, IT TO BECOMES ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

I HAVE LITERALLY THOUGHT AT MOMENTS IF MY LIFE THIS SCENARIO AND I'M A PROBLEM‑SOLVER.

I THINK I'M KIND OF INTELLIGENT.

AND I WAS LIKE, THIS SCENARIO IS IMPOSSIBLE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GOING TO SOLVE THIS.

AND JUST LOOKING AT CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THEN COMING FROM THE FACT THAT YOU'RE IN A SITUATION THAT IS VERY EMOTIONAL.

YOU STRESSFUL, TAXING, LIFE IS A THREAT, PHYSICALLY BEING HARMED.

WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES MAY BE, HOW CAN YOU THEN NAVIGATE A SYSTEM OR CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE AT THAT MOMENT?

I THINK MANY CAN EMPATHIZE WITH DIFFICULTY NAVIGATING LIVING IN HAWAII TODAY, SO IF I WITH WERE TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE, BIG BARRIER FOR ME, GAP, I WOULD SAY THAT JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE.

IT COULD BE YOURSELF TOO.

DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT YOU HAVE CHILDREN.

ANOTHER THING TO FACTOR IN.

>>Lauren: ANOTHER STEP TO THAT, WHAT LEGAL CHANGES DO YOU ALL OF YOU THINK COULD BE MADE IT HELP BETTER PROTECT OUR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE?

>> ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT OFTEN WITH THE PAST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SUICIDES IS WHEN WE LOOK AT POTENTIALLY HAVING MANDATED REPORTING FOR SOMEBODY THREATENING SUICIDE, THREAT OF SUICIDE BY ABUSER INDICATE YOU ARE LETHALITY.

INDICATOR THAT SITUATION IS MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN WE LIKELY KNOW.

SO FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF ASSESSMENT OR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO FOR INDIVIDUALS THREATENING SUICIDE.

IN THESE THESE SITUATIONS ALSO NOT IF BUT AS WELL AS WHEN THERE'S RESTRAINING ORDERS INVOLVED.

>> AND OTHER TYPES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.

>>Lauren: I KNOW MAYBE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

>> >> I THINK FOR WHEN I WAS CHILD ABUSE, SO MANY DEDICATED PEOPLE IN CHILD WELFARE SERVICES THAT YOU CAN TELL ARE TAXED.

SO MANY CASES AND NOT ENOUGH, I DON'T THINK, I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE MORE FUNDING.

THAT'S AN EASY ANSWER.

BUT GETTING THE FUNDING IS HARD.

>> MAYBE THAT MIGHT HELP AT LEAST IN TERMS OF CHILD ABUSE AND HELPING CHILDREN.

MAYBE MORE MONEY THAT WAY.

TALKING FOR MYSELF AS INVESTIGATOR.

NOT TALKING ABOUT DEPARTMENT, TAKE A STAND FOR THEM.

WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, HELPFUL THEY HAD MORE PEOPLE.

>>Lauren: FROM FAMILY LAW PERSPECTIVE LAWYER PERSPECTIVE, WHAT DO YOU THINK CHANGED TO BETTER HELP PROTECT OUR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE?

>> WELL, SO MANY DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES.

>> BUT BECAUSE CHILD ABUSE WAS JUST MENTIONED, THIS IS FRESH ON MY MIND.

WITH IDEA OF TROs AS WELL.

WHEN THERE PETITION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER AND ORDER FOR PROTECTION, CHILDREN INVOLVED STAMPED FOR CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES TO REVIEW THE CASE AND THEY CONDUCT INTERVIEW ONE DIFFICULTY I'VE HAD AS AN ATTORNEY, FACTORS THAT WE NEED TO PROVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SOMETIMES THOSE FACTORS AREN'T USED BY THE SOCIAL WORKERS ACTUALLY IN INVESTIGATING THE ABUSE CASE ITSELF.

SO THEY MIGHT OKAY WITH IT FROM A DIFFERENT APPROACH OR BE LOOKING AT IT AS OPPOSING TO COUNSEL QUESTIONING HIM, REACHED THEIR FINDING, THREAT AFTER ABUSE OR NOT, DON'T ALWAYS NECESSARILY ALIGN UP WITH THE FACTORS THAT I NEED TO PROVE MY CASE.

>> PUTS A LOOPHOLE WHAT'S GOING ON.

REPRESENTING SURVIVOR THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT.

AND I'VE SEEN SITUATIONS WHEN IT'S KIND OF CLEAR‑CUT ON MY END, BECAUSE I REPRESENTING SURVIVOR, SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT, STUFF GOING ON, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS COMING OUT THAT WAY.

SO IF THERE COULD BE MORE OF A CONNECTION, BEHIND THE SCENES WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE INVESTIGATION AND WHAT WE NEED TO PROVE.

SORRY, VERY LONG‑WINDED, JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME TO MIND.

>>Lauren: ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT?

>> NOT ABLE TO CREATE A LAW THAT CAN PLAN FOR EVERY POSSIBLE SITUATION.

I MEAN, WHAT SHE DESCRIBED, CHILD WELFARE SERVICES ONLY COMING IN TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE CHILD.

NOT THERE TO DETERMINE IF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OCCURRED.

I THINK LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY COME IN, THAT'S NOT ABOUT THAT.

ALSO, IF THE COLLECT MORE FUN FUNDING CREATE SAFE PLACES FOR VICTIMS TO GO TO.

DECIDE TO MAKE THAT MOVE, THEY HAVE SOME PLACE SAFE AT LEAST TEMPORARY PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THEY CAN GET ON THEIR FEET.

SO STAY WITH THEMSELVES.

THEIR CHILDREN, PETS.

BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, THEY HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR PETS BEHIND BECAUSE A LOT OF RENTALS WON'T TAKE PETS WITH THEM.

STAY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TALK THEIR PETS.

>>Lauren: DEFINITELY ISSUE HERE IN HAWAII.

NOT A LOT OF PET‑FRIENDLY RENTAL.

I KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE.

COMMENT IS PERFECT TRANSITION TO THIS VIEWER'S QUESTION.

ERIC EMAILED IN.

THERE IS A LOT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TOWARD MEN IN THIS STATE.

BUT VIRTUALLY NO PROGRAMS TO GET THEM SUPPORT.

ALMOST ALL PROGRAMS ONLY SUPPORT WOMEN.

IS THIS PROBLEM BEING ADDRESSED?

>> MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT.

>> FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER FEMALES FEELS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND MALE VICTIMS.

MORE COMMON FEMALE EXPERIENCING ABUSE, I DON'T RUN ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES, I WOULD SAY THAT ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES WOULD HAVE MECHANISMS TO HELP MEN ALSO VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AS WELL.

STILL CALL.

DO SAFETY PLANNING ALSO, HAVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS MAY BE ABLE TO A MALE VICTIM.

SOME TYPE OF ACCOMMODATION FOR A MALE BECAUSE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR ETHNICITIES, RACES, BACKGROUNDS CULTURE.

EVERY SINGLE SECTOR.

TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

>> HAVE TO COME OUT WITHOUT FEELING SHAME, BEING TOLD HOW CAN YOU BE ABUSED?

YOU'RE THE MAN.

SAME WITH COLONEL LGBTQ, EVERY SINGLE COMMUNITY UNFORTUNATELY.

SO I WOULD SAY EVERY AGENCY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ANYONE WHO CALLS IN, THEY'RE A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FOR THE MOST PART.

>>Lauren: HAVE A FEW MINUTES LEFT, THERESA CACHUELA.

TRO WAS FILED, LAW ENFORCEMENT DID CONFISCATE JASON CACHUELA'S FIREARMS, STILL ABLE TO GET HIS HANDS ON ONE.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WITH THE HISTORY OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CAN'T GET THEIR HANDS ON A WEAPON?

>> I CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT THE CASES.

BECAUSE IT'S OPEN INVESTIGATION.

BUT IN GENERAL, TERMS, LIKE JUDGE WAS SAYING TOO, CAN'T CREATE EVERY LAW, ANY LAW IS GOING TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING.

>> EVERY LAW IS NOT GOING TO ADDRESS COMPLETELY STOP CRIME 100%.

TRO 100% NOT STOP A PERSON FROM GETTING A GUN IF THEY WANT A GUN.

SO MANY AVENUES.

LEGAL, ILLEGAL.

BACK TO WHAT WE WERE SAYING EARLIER, TRO IS ISSUED, DON'T RELAX.

>> IT'S NOT TIME TO SAY BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF.

DANGEROUS TIME.

BE ON THEIR GAME AND LOOK OUT FOR THIS PERSON.

>> THIS IS WE'RE IN THE DANGER ZONE NOW.

>>Lauren: GOOD ADVICE FOR VIEWERS IS ANYONE LISTENING TO UNFORTUNATELY MIGHT FIND THEM ON THAT SITUATION.

ASK OTHER THREE GUEST ON OUR PANEL.

WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE SOMEONE SEEKING PROTECTIVE ORDER?

START WITH YOU.

>> JUST CALL.

CALL REACH OUT, GET INFORMATION.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO, I WOULD SAY REACH OUT TO THE AGENCY THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT.

DON'T BE AFRAID.

I MEAN, I TAKE THAT BACK.

HORRIBLE THING TO SAY.

A LOT OF FEAR.

DON'T BE ASHAMED, REACH OUT.

AGENCIES THAT WILL HELP YOU.

>>Lauren: WHAT ABOUT JUST MAYBE EVEN ADVICE IF YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE COMING TO TERMS THAT YOU MIGHT BE IN A ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.

>> AGENCY CAN HELP WITH YOU THAT TOO.

IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT IT IS, CALL AND ASK AND PRETTY SURE THAT WOULD GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED SO YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH.

>>Lauren: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER HAS A LOT OF GREAT RESOURCES.

NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.

>> I CAN ALSO READ IT OFF.

808‑531‑3771.

>> DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER OAHU HELP LINE.

SHARED ADVICE.

HAVING DETAIL IN THOSE PROTECTIVE ORDERS ANY OTHER ADVICE, PLAN AHEAD.

OF BEFORE YOU COME TO FILE, HAVE A PLAN, TELL SOMEBODY YOU TRUST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT.

IF YOU NEED TO, HAVE SOME PLACE SAFE TO STAY.

HAVE A GO BAG PACKED IF YOU NEED TO.

JUST PLAN AHEAD.

>>Lauren: YOU EARLIER MENTIONED CELL PHONE CHARGED.

>> YES.

>>Lauren: GAS TANK KEEP IT FULL.

>> YES.

>>Lauren: SOUNDS LIKE DEFINITELY PLAN IN PLACE AND LIKE YOU SAID, HAVE A GO BAG.

ATTORNEY PERSPECTIVE, ALSO YOU'VE UNFORTUNATELY EXPERIENCED IT FIRSTHAND, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVICE TO ANY OTHER VICTIMS OUT THERE?

>> JUST TO ADD TO THE ADVICE THAT I WAS ALREADY HEARING, I THINK THOSE WERE GREAT TIPS.

SOME.

THING THAT I WOULD THINK OF, TAKING A LOOK AT THAT SECOND PAGE.

>> USUALLY SECOND PAGE.

CAN'T SAY RIGHT NOW WHAT IT IS ON WEBSITE.

SECOND PAGE, PETITION OR WHEREVER IT MAY BE, DEFINITIONS OF WHAT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS.

WHAT ARE SOME FACTORS THAT THE JUDGE IS LOOKING AT.

TELL MY CLIENTS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

CIRCLE CERTAIN WORDS FOR THEM SO I WANT THEM TO SPEAK TO THAT IN THEIR WRITING.

>> SO THEIR PETITION IS GRANTED.

AND ALSO HAVING A JOURNAL IS ANOTHER THING THAT IS HELPFUL.

YOU CAN REFER TO THAT JOURNAL WHEN YOU'RE READY.

TO DO THAT PETITION.

AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT THESE INSTANCES.

BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE DETAILS IN THERE.

YOU MAY HAVE DATES IN THERE AND KIND OF TRACK FOR YOURSELF, AS A SURVIVOR.

ME LOOKING BACK AT MY OWN JOURNAL ENTRIES.

>> THERE WERE TIMES WHEN I THOUGHT MAYBE I EXAGGERATED WHAT HAPPENED.

DID THEY REALLY DO THAT AND THEN TO MY SURPRISE, WOW, HOW I SAID IT IN THAT SPEECH OR TOLD MY STORY PUBLICLY WORD FOR WORD WHAT I WROTE.

HAVE THAT LONG LIST.

A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

>>Lauren: THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

FOR BEING HERE IN STUDIO TONIGHT.

SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.

>> ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU VIEWERS AT HOME.

GUESTS: MONIQUE IBARRA, CEO OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ACTION CENTER, DETECTIVE ALAN LU FROM THE HONOLULU POLICE DEPARTMENT, JUDGE JESSI HALL FROM THE FIRST CIRCUIT COURT, AND CHANTRELLE WAIALAE, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY.

NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS: DOGS KILLED TWO PEOPLE IN THE LAST YEAR IN HAWAII.

ARE THE OWNERS HELD ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEIR PETS KILL OR INJURE OTHERS?

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

I’M LAUREN DAY FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI`I.

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.