EACH YEAR, STATE LAWMAKERS GO  INTO A NEW LEGISLATIVE SESSION WITH A LONG LIST OF DAUNTING  TASKS.

ON THE AGENDA FOR 2025,  CHRONIC PRIORITIES LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING,  HOMELESSNESS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT OTHER  ISSUES THIS YEAR INCLUDED CURBING ILLEGAL  FIREWORKS, STABILIZING THE CONDO INSURANCE MARKET  AND LEGALIZING SPORTS BETTING.

WHICH BILLS PASSED AND WHICH  ONES DIED IN SESSION?

AND HOW WILL YOU BE AFFECTED?

TONIGHT’S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS  HAWAII START NOW.

¶¶  ¶¶ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS  ON PBS HAWAII.

I'M YUNJI DE NIES.

AFTER MONTHS OF HEARINGS AND AT TIMES HEATED DEBATE, THIS  YEAR’S LEGISLATIVE SESSION ADJOURNED THIS PAST FRIDAY.

A FEW OF THE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT PASSED ARE THE STATE  BUDGET, FUNDING FOR THE MAUI FIRE SETTLEMENT AND RAISING  THE TOURIST TAX TO SUPPORT CLIMATE INITIATIVES.

SOME OF THE MEASURES THAT FAILED INCLUDE A BAN ON HIGH  POWERED SEMI‑AUTOMATIC RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS AND SEVERAL BILLS  THAT WERE AIMED TO CLEAN‑UP LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

OUR PANEL TONIGHT WILL GET TO AS MANY OF THE MEASURES AS  POSSIBLE AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR ALL OF US.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S  EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND YOU’LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT  PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII YOUTUBE PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

DAN NAKASO IS THE CAPITOL  BUREAU CHIEF AT THE HONOLULU STAR‑ADVERTISER.

HE’S BEEN AN EDITOR AND REPORTER IN HAWAII FOR NEARLY  30‑YEARS AND HAS COVERED A WIDE RANGE OF STORIES ACROSS  THE STATE.

ASHLEY MIZUO IS HAWAII PUBLIC  RADIO’S GOVERNMENT REPORTER.

SHE’S ALSO WORKED AS A PODCAST  PRODUCER AND BEFORE THAT WAS THE CITY HALL REPORTER AT  THE HONOLULU STAR‑ADVERTISER.

CHAD BLAIR IS THE POLITICS  EDITOR AT CIVIL BEAT DOT ORG, FOCUSING ON HOW POLITICAL  DECISIONS IMPACT PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES.

HE’S BEEN A WRITER, EDITOR AND TEACHER IN HAWAII FOR MORE  THAN 35 YEARS.

AND NEAL MILNER IS A FORMER  POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII,  WHERE HE TAUGHT FOR 40 YEARS.

HE’S A POLITICAL ANALYST FOR  KITV AND IS A CONTRIBUTOR TO BOTH HPR AND CIVIL BEAT.

WE HAVE POLITICAL POWERHOUSE  HERE IN HAWAII TONIGHT.

GOOD TO HAVE ALL OF THESE MINDS AT ONE TABLE.

START WITH YOU AND SOMETHING WE SAW  HAPPEN THIS WEEK AFTER SESSION ENDED.

GET TO THE BILLS THAT WE  WERE REFERENCING IN THE OPEN.

TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE FINANCE CHAIR  AND SHAKE UP THERE, KYLE YAMASHITA OUT.

CHRIS TODD IN.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

>> WELL, INTERESTING BECAUSE HE GOT OFF TO  ROUGH START THREE YEARS AGO END OF THE SESSION.

A LOT OF PEOPLE LEGISLATORS  OPENLY CALLING FOR HIS REMOVAL.

THEN HOUSE SPEAKER SCOTT SAIKI  STUCK WITH HIM LAST YEAR.

AND NADINE NAKAMURA NEW HOUSE SPEAKER  APPEARED TO STICK WITH HIM UNTIL TUESDAY.

WHAT HAPPENED?

IS IT I'M NOT SURE.

BUT THERE WAS, ALWAYS CRITICISM OF THE HOUSE AND  FINANCE CHAIR AND SENATE WAYS AND MEANS CHAIR   ABOUT HAVING TOO MUCH POWER.

BLOCKING LEGISLATION.

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY.

ONLY SO MUCH MONEY GO AROUND.

SO HE MAY HAVE ANGERED WRONG  PEOPLE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW YET.

ALL KIND OF SPECULATION THEORIES.

SO FAR, NOBODY IS TALKING.

>>Yunji: WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE HOUSE  FINANCE CHAIR WAYS ORCHESTRATED NOW IS THAT   FOR PEOPLE DON'T REALLY FOLLOW POLITICS  THAT CLOSELY, FINANCE CHAIR CONTROL NOT   ONLY BILLS RELATE TO THE MONEY, BASICALLY,  SORT OF STOP GAP FOR ALL OF THE BILLS.

>> YEAH.

TWO COMMITTEES STOP GAP FOR ALL OF THE BILLS.

WHETHER THEY'RE FINANCE OR NOT.

THAT HAS BEEN BONE OF CONTENTION.

THERE'S ANOTHER BONE OF CONTENTION GOES ALONG WITH  IT, THAT IS STICKS A LOT OF STUFF TOGETHER THERE.

DOESN'T COME OUT IN TIME.

I THINK SIGNIFICANT THING ABOUT YAMASHITA   LOSING HIS JOB IS SPEED WITH WHICH IT HAPPENED.

LEGISLATURE COULD HAVE DONE IT   MORE LEISURELY FASHION.

GENERALLY PERSONNEL STUFF,   WORKS IN A MORE LEISURELY FASHION.

THIS GUY HIS CHAIR WASN'T EVEN COLD YET   FROM STANDING UP AND HE WAS GONE, AND I THINK THAT  IS SUGGESTED KIND OF HE WAS GONE SUGGESTED KIND OF   SPECIAL FEELING SOMETHING  HAD TO BE DONE QUICKLY DO IT.

AS DAN SAID, NOT CLEAR WHAT THAT IS.

IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT.

PEOPLE AREN'T TALK ON THE RECORD ABOUT IT.

BUT KEVIN DAYTON AND BLAZE AND   HOUSE MEMBERS DID TALK TO US.

WE HEARD, KIND OF ALL OVER THE MAP.

BUT DEFINITELY WHAT HAPPENED THREE YEARS AGO,  WITH YAMASHITA WENT INTO THAT, CALLED CATTLE CALL.

ALL OF THESE BILLS RIGHT ON  THE LAST DAY OR TWO, SESSION.

AND MASS SLAUGHTER.

BILLS DYING BY THE WAYSIDE.

SCOTT SAIKI MORTIFIED AT THAT  TIME BEING HOUSE SPEAKER.

KYLE FOLLOWING SYLVIA LUKE.

PRETTY MUCH MASTER GOT   ALONG WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY.

ONE OTHER THING I WOULD ALSO ADD,   REMEMBER, FINANCE CHAIR, MONEY  CHAIRS ARE ALSO IN CHAIR OF CIP.

THEY HAVE ANOTHER PERSON HANDLE IT.

THAT'S THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

MONEY.

ONE OTHER THING, SURPRISE KYLE   YAMASHITA GOT OUSTED AFTER SESSION WAS OVER.

SAME THING HAPPENED TO ILL TOKUDA.

WAYS AND MEANS.

JILL TOKUDA.

OUSTED NEAR THE END.

SPEAKER REMOVED.

NOT UNPRECEDENTED.

>> YOU MENTIONED SPECIAL   SESSION THAT MAY HAVE PLAYED AT ROLE.

COULD HAVE WAITED AND NOT REAPPOINTED   HIM HE NEXT SESSION.

WITH THE SPECTOR OF   SPECIAL SESSION AND ALL ABOUT MONDAY, HOW TO  COMPENSATE FOR FEDERAL FINANCING BEING CUT.

ALL ABOUT MONEY, FOLKS THOUGHT HE WASN'T THE GUY.

>>Yunji: WHAT DO WE KNOW NEW FINANCE CHAIR.

>> INTERESTING ABOUT THE SHAKE UP REPRESENTATIVE  YAMASHITA IS GENERALLY A MORE QUIET PERSON.

HE DOESN'T NECESSARILY DO  VERY MANY MEDIA INTERVIEWS.

VERY HARD TO GET ONE‑ON‑ONE WITH HIM AND ON  THE OPPOSITE END, TODD IS VERY TALKATIVE.

HE ANSWERS THEIR CALLS.

DOES MEDIA INTERVIEWS.

PERSONALITIES ARE VERY DIFFERENT AND I THINK MAYBE  THAT ALSO PLAYS A ROLE TALKING ABOUT GOING INTO   SPECIAL SESSION WITH SO MANY FISCAL ISSUES,  FACING STATE, MAYBE THEY THINK IT'S TIME TO   HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS MORE INTERESTED IN KIND  OF GETTING MESSAGE OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC.

VERSUS BEHIND THE SCREENS BEHIND THE SCENES.

>>Yunji: HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISION   ONE WORD OF CAUSING.

WHAT WE NORMALLY THINK   ABOUT NOT HOW DRAMATICALLY LEGISLATURE ACTS  AND HOW DIFFICULTY THEY ACTED AND HOW SLOWLY.

THEY ABILITY.

NO REASON TO ASSUME   THIS CHANGE THIS CHANGE HAS A LOT OF DRAMA.

NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THE BODY WORKS.

COMPLICATED OPERATION DEPENDS ON LOT OF NORMS MAKE  YOU SAY IT'S NOT WORKING AS FAST AS WE THOUGHT.

>> NOT WHOLESALE REORGANIZATION.

NOT QUITE CLEAR WHETHER IT'S OVER YET.

LINDA ISHIYAMA, SPEAKER CLOSE TO KYLE  YAMASHITA SUBMITTED HER RESIGNATION.

SPEAKER HAS NOT ACCEPTED T SEE WHETHER STAYS.

OTHER THINGS COMING DOWN PIKE.

>>Yunji: SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING A BREAK.

RON KOUCHI SAYING THEY GET I OR INCOMPLETE   BECAUSE OF UNCERTAINTY WITH FEDERAL BUDGET  CUTS ON THE WAY POSSIBILITY OF SPECIAL SESSION.

NADINE GIVING HERSELF AND  FOLD LAWMAKERS A GRADE A.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

I THINK THAT ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN INTERESTING   IS END OF SESSION, WHEN I LOOKED BACK AT THE  REPORTING I DID BEGINNING OF SESSION TALKING ABOUT   MAIN THING THEY WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH, ILLEGAL  FIREWORKS LEGISLATION, SECURE AVIATION FOR IT   HAWAIIAN ELECTRIC AND PROPERTY STABILIZATION.

FOCUSING ON GOING INTO THE SESSION.

DID PASS LEGISLATION ON ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT I THINK A LOT OF JOVIAL PASSING BIG PIECE OF   LEGISLATION CROWDED OVER UNCERTAINTY  WHAT THIS MEANS FOR FEDERAL FUNDING.

MAKES UP ABOUT 20% OF THE STATE'S BUDGET.

AND NOT TO SAY ALL OF THAT IS IN JEOPARDY.

VERY UNCLEAR AND I THINK THAT UNCERTAINTY JUST  GOING LOOMING OVER THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AND THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

A AND I TOGETHER, AI.

HOUSING HIRO THING HOUSE AND SENATE ANOTHER THING,  HOUSE STRESSED BEGINNING, LUKE SAYING WE ARE GOING   TO REALLY MOVE WITH THIS KAUHALE.

MAJOR SIGNIFICANCE AND INITIATIVE   OF GOVERNOR GREEN AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

REALLY DID HIT A LOT OF THOSE MARKS.

SOME OF THEM WEREN'T GUARANTEED HECO  SECURITIZATION BILL WENT DOWN TO THE WIRE.

INCOMPLETE.

PUT ENOUGH MONEY ASIDE IN A RESERVE   FOR RAINY‑DAY FUNDS IF THEY DO HAVE TO COME BACK.

REMEMBER, THIS IS ALL CONTINGENT ON WHAT HAPPENED   IT IS THE FEDERAL BUDGET.

DIFFERENT FISCAL CYCLE.

END OF SEPTEMBER.

RIGHT NOW, ON A CONTINUING RESOLUTION.

AND UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, DONALD TRUMP TRYING TO  KEEP THAT HISTORIC TAX CUT GOING IN ORDER TO   DO THAT HAVE TO TAKE MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE MEDICAID, THAT'S DIRECTLY   GOING TO AFFECT STATES LIKE HAWAII.

>> VERY INTERESTING.

I WAS GOING TO SAY TOUCHING RAINY‑DAY FUND,  INTERESTING END OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION,   HOUSE WAS ORIGINALLY TALKING ABOUT PUTTING  $200 MILLION INTO THE RAINY‑DAY FUND.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, STARTED NOT DID THAT.

BECAUSE ONCE YOU PUT MONEY INTO THE RAINY   DAY FUND, REQUIRES 2/3 VOTE TO  ACTIVATE ANY OF THOSE FUNDS.

WANT THIS TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE IF THEY  NEED TO ACCESS IT QUICKLY IN A SPECIAL   SESSION TO ADDRESS, FEDERAL FUNDING IMPACTS.

RAINY DAY FUND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID   INCREASE HOTEL ROOM.

T.A.T.

GOVERNOR GREEN WANTED.

DID NOT GET ALL THE INTEREST BILLION DOLLARS   PLUS RAINY‑DAY FUND DEDICATED  TO CLIMATE CHANGE IMPACT FEE.

LEDGE GAVE THEM HALF A BUY AND THAT  ALSO GIVES THEM TO USE THAT INTEREST.

WHICH GOVERNOR GREEN SAID IS  60 MILLION BECOMES A YEAR.

I'M SORRY.

HOW MUCH WAS THAT?

THEY COULD POSSIBLY ACCESS THAT.

>>Yunji: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CLIMATE CHANGE FEE.

THAT RAISING T.A.T.

THIRD TIME CHARM FOR THE GOVERNOR ON THAT.

WHY DO YOU THINK NOW THIS MADE IT THROUGH.

>> WELL, IT'S FIRST YEAR, THAT IT WAS DISCUSSED,   THREE SESSIONS AGO, EVERYTHING WAS ON TABLE.

APP, CHARGE AT THE AIRPORT T.A.T.

PAY AS YOU GO.

AND AS NEAL OFTEN SAYS,   IT TAKES A COUPLE SESSIONS TO COME TO CONSENSUS.

MAUI HIT.

MORE URGENCY DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE LAST YEAR.

GOVERNOR GREEN SAID WE NEED  500 TO 600 MILLION A YEAR.

TO PROPERLY RESPOND TO CLIMATE  CHANGE PREVENT FUTURE WILDFIRES.

GOT ABOUT 100 MILLION.

SO WE'RE NOT EVEN AT THE 200 MILLION.

HE SAID WE CAN KIND OF GET BY WITH.

>> GOOD POINT.

REMEMBER, ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCE  REALLY IS THAT THE CRUISE SHIPS ARE   GOING TO GET HAMMERED BY THIS.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU   ON A CRUISE SHIP, DOCK AT HILO, THOSE  FOLKS AREN'T ACTUALLY PAYING THE T.A.T.

I HAD NO IDEA.

COMPROMISE HELPED TAKE EDGE OFF HOTEL INDUSTRY.

OPPOSED THIS.

NEVER REALLY RECOVERED FROM COVID.

100 MILLION A YEAR, GOVERNOR SAID GOT  TO BE MORE LIKE 5 OR $600 MILLION.

CLIMATE CHANGE, CONDITIONS  ARE ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.

PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO REVISIT THAT AGAIN.

>>Yunji: WHAT DO YOU THINK   ABOUT WHY THIS TIME WAS?

>> I THINK IT WAS WHAT ALREADY BEEN SAID.

A LOT OF HARD WORK.

HAD A LOT OF THINGS ON THE TABLE.

OVER TIME, THE LEGISLATURE DID WHAT LOTS OF OTHER  LEGISLATURES CLAIM THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHEN THEY   WORK WELL, ESSENTIALLY TO TRUDGE ON.

TO MAKE THE SMALL CHOICES,   TO MAKE THE COMPROMISES.

TO NOT POSTURE VERY MUCH.

THINK THIS WAS   PROCESS WAS A MODEL HOW YOU TO GOOD LEGISLATION.

BECAUSE THEY STUCK WITH IT.

THEY LISTENED TO EACH OTHER.

I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO   MAKE IT SOUND VOICE GOT THROUGH.

SERIOUSLY, THIS WAS NOT, HIGHLY   VISIBLE THING ON ONE HAND.

A LOT OF LITTLE  PIECE IN THAT REALLY WEREN'T VERY SEXY.

I ASSUME THEY CONSULTED WITH GOVERNOR REGULARLY.

ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE   HAPPEN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LACK OF  REPUBLICAN MINORITY WAS OF ANY SIZE.

THEIR PARTICIPATION IS LIMITED.

CLIMATE ACTION TEAM.

DENISE ANTOLINI ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER,  THOSE FOLKS REALLY GOT TOGETHER   AND CAME UP WITH THESE VERY BILLS.

SEVERAL VERSIONS OF THE CLIMATE TAX.

>> GREEN FEE.

VERY DIFFERENT FROM   ONE OF MY PET PEEVES, WORKING GROUPS.

WHERE ARE THE WORKERS?

TASK FORCE.

WORKING GROUPS.

I DID LABOR NEGOTIATIONS  CAN'T WORK SOMETHING OUT, AND YOU WANT TO   GET ON WITH IT, YOU MANAGEMENT SET UP A TASK  FORCE WHICH MEANS IT WILL NEVER BE SEEN AGAIN.

THIS IS DIFFERENT.

HAD THE GOVERNOR'S IN PERIMETER.

THEY WORKED TOGETHER.

HAD A TASK IN MIND.

HAD WORKED TOGETHER HAD A TIME  LIMIT THEY IMPOSED UPON THEMSELVES.

>>Yunji: YOU ACTUALLY FIREWORKS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS WILL ACTUALLY DO?

DO YOU THINK THIS GOES FAR NOW HAVE?

>> I THINK FIREWORKS BILL IS BEEN REALLY   INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S REALLY JUST ADJUSTING  THESE DEFINITIONS FOR PROSECUTORS GO AFTER CASE.

MAKES IT EASIER FOR POLICE TO GIVE OUT  INFRACTIONS VERSUS FULL‑BLOWN TAKE IT TO COURT.

THAT MAKES IT A LOT HARDER TO CRACK DOWN.

IT'S REALLY GOING TO COME DOWN DO I   THINK ON THE GROUND, LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND HOW WELL THEY'RE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT   THIS LAW AND HOW MUCH RESOURCES  THEY ARE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT IT.

AND SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO THAT.

>> WHOLE SERIES OF FIREWORKS BILLS PASSED.

THEY NEW UNDERCOVER UNIT.

STING OPERATION.

AND DRONES I BELIEVE.

UNIT AND MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR LAW   ENFORCEMENT TO USE DRONE VIDEOS PROBABLE CAUSE.

FOR OFFICERS TO GO AND LOOK AROUND.

AND MAY BE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS OR SAY, GUY  IN THE WHITE SHIRT LIGHTING EVERYTHING UP.

HE'S YOUR GUY.

BEFORE, NOT ENOUGH.

DEAL BREAKER.

ANOTHER THING THAT COULD HAPPEN  NOT REALLY TO LEGISLATION ALIAMANU HAPPENED   2 WEEKS BEFORE START OF THE SESSION.

LEGISLATORS UNDER INCREDIBLE PRESSURE.

SECOND THING IS PEOPLE UNDERSTAND  NOW THAT THIS IS REALLY DANGEROUS.

NOT JUST SOME ANNOYING.

FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE DIED.

OVER ALMOST A DOZEN.

INCLUDING A 3‑YEAR‑OLD.

BURN VICTIMS HAVING TO GO CALIFORNIA.

>> DISFIGURED.

ARIZONA.

NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO TO NEXT YEAR, I DON'T  WANT TO BLOWN UP YOUR HOUSE AND POSSIBLY MINE.

DROPPING THE DIME.

>> PERHAPS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING   ABOUT IS MORE THAN A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE.

TALKING ABOUT A CULTURAL SHIFT.

CHAD DO YOU THINK WE'RE THERE.

>> NO.

WE'LL SEE YEAR FROM NOW WHETHER MORE ARREST.

THESE ARE TOOLS.

ANOTHER THING CAME OUT OF THE   OMNIBUS BILL AND OTHER FIREWORKS BILL.

CONTINUE THE SAME TASK CAME   UP WITH RECOMMENDATION.

EXPLOSIVE UNIT INVESTIGATIVE UNIT I   BELIEVE WITH DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IN TERMS CULTURE ONLY STATE DOES THAT.

KEEPS DOING THIS YEAR AFTER YEAR.

CITE CULTURE, TRADITION, GOT TO A POINT YEAH,   IF IT HADN'T HAPPENED TWO WEEKS  BEFORE A SESSION, WONDER WHETHER   REALLY WOULD HAVE HAD THE ENERGY BEHIND IT.

WE'LL SEE WHAT COPS SHOW UP, STOP FIRING.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CATCH PEOPLE?

YOU CAN ISSUE CITATION.

COP SEEING SOMETHING GO UP, SIZE AND CATCH THEM.

HARD TO PEOPLE TO TURN IN THEIR NEIGHBORS.

>> ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.

FIREWORKS THAT WENT OFF, SALT LAKE,   AND THAT HOUSE, BEEN GOING OFF EVERY YEAR.

IT'S ON A HILL.

KNOW IT'S THERE.

NEIGHBORS ARE THERE, POLICE   KNOW IT'S THERE WHAT THESE LAWS ADDRESS, I HAVE  A LOT OF NOT CONCERNS I HAVE A LOT OF SCEPTICISM   ABOUT WHETHER THEY'LL DO WHAT THEY DO.

YOU DON'T NEED TO DRONE TO DISCOVER IT.

DRONES ARE LOOKING FOR BIGGER ORGANIZED THINGS.

WHETHER OR NOT A CITATION WILL WORK BETTER GOOD   THEORY BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO  SHOW YOU NEED TO SHOW PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE.

DISTINCTION.

AND WHETHER   THESE OTHER THINGS LIKE STING OPERATIONS, WE'RE  TALKING ABOUT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HERE.

DOES NOT EXACTLY SLITHER  AROUND WITH ANY KIND OF SPEED.

NOT GOING TO SEE MUCH CHANGE BY JULY 4.

TRYING TO CHANGE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT DO.

REMEMBER, MAIN REASON THIS HAPPENS IS BECAUSE  THEY COME IN IT ON SHIPPING CONTAINERS   THAT ARE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO INSPECT.

>> NOTHING HERE THAT, MATSON COMPLAINED ABOUT.

SEARCH EVERY CONTAINER SHIP, NOT  GOING TO GET YOUR GOODS AND SERVICES.

>> ALSO INTERESTING IS THIS WE BELIEVE THIS  CURRENT PHENOMENA OF THESE BOMBS AND BEGAN   WITH THE PROHIBITION ON AERIALS.

MORE THAN 20 YEARS AGO.

PROHIBITION ON BOOZE.

CALVIN SAY'S ARGUMENT AT THE COUNSELOR.

DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.

INTERESTING,  WE'LL SEE THAT SHAKES OUT.

SOMETHING ELSE ON ASHLEY'S LIST.

INSURANCE.

CAN YOU TAKE THAT ONE?

STABILIZING INSURANCE MARKET HOME AND CONDOS.

HOPES RATES GO DOWN.

>> TRYING TO KEEP THEM FROM   KEEP GOING UP ESPECIALLY FOR CONDOS.

GETTING DISPROPORTIONATELY HIT.

COME UP BEFORE.

LAST YEAR, WHEN SCOTT SAIKI WAS SPEAKER,   HE REPRESENT THE DISTRICT.

KAKAAKO.

MOSTLY CONDOS.

SO WAS HEARING FROM ALL THE TIME.

OUR INSURANCE IS GOING TO GO UP.

SINCE MAUI.

EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.

GOVERNOR GREEN VERY WORRIED ABOUT   STABILIZING JUST THE INDUSTRY PART OF IT.

AND STOPPING INSURANCE FROM LEAVING.

A LOT OF PRESSURE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

>> I THOUGHT INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY PUT A LOT OF   EMPHASIS THAT THESE ALTHOUGH STATE HAS PASSED  TO THIS LAW THAT ALLOWS THEM SET UP PROPERTY   INSURANCE, BY THE STATE, TO GIVEN IT TO CONDOS  THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SECURE THEIR FULL   COVERAGE, THEY'VE EMPHASIZED REALLY CLEARLY  ABOUT THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S GOING TO BE   LESS OR EVEN BACK TO THE AMOUNT THAT WAS BEFORE.

THIS IS SIMPLY JUST WAY TO KEEP PEOPLE GOING OUT   UNREGULATED MARKET.

EXPENSIVE.

CONCERNED ABOUT TRYING TO PASS THIS BILL WHEN  YOU ONLY INSURER REALLY, REALLY RISKY CONDOS,   THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE DO AND SO THE  BOARDS THAT REGULATING THIS NEW INSURANCE POLICY,   THAT THEY INSTITUTED HAVE BEEN HAVING A LOT  OF CONVERSATIONS WITH MIXTURE OF TYPES OF   BILLS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO COVER  IN ORDER TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE OPERATION.

LAWMAKERS ARE CONCERNED THAT WOULD MEAN BIG  LUXURY CONDOS, ARE GOING TO GET INTO THIS   PROGRAM AS OPPOSED TO REALLY SMALL HARD TO INSURE  CONDOS NEED IT HAVE TO SEE IT WORKS ITSELF OUT.

>>Yunji: VIEWERS TALK ABOUT NOT WHAT THEY PASS BUT  WHAT THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT LAWMAKERS NOT DID   NOT DO, GOVERNMENT REFORMS LAWS MOST SEEM LOGICAL.

HOW FAIR IS IT LAWMAKERS PASS LAW ALLOWING   CANDIDATES CAMPAIGN MONEY  TO PAY FOR CHILD CARE COST.

WHAT MAKESTHEM SO SPECIAL  OVER GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.

DID NOT PASS ANY GOVERNMENT REFORM, RIGHT LONG  SAD STORY HAS A LOT ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT IT CHANGE   PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR PUT MOST OF THAT STORY  ASIDE AND SAY, WHY DIDN'T THEY PASS THEM?

THEY DIDN'T PASS THEM BECAUSE  THEY DON'T WANT THEM TO PASS.

>>Yunji: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TERM LIMITS.

>> TERM LIMITS I DON'T THINK EVER HAD A CHANCE.

AND STUDYING YEAR‑ROUND LEGISLATOR.

AND ONE  ABOUT WHO CONTRIBUTE MONEY TO A CAMPAIGN.

MOST IMPORTANT ONE.

AND THEY LET THAT ONE SIDE.

ESSENTIALLY.

LET THAT ONE SLIDE TERM   LIMITS LEGISLATORS ALMOST NEVER WANT TO  HAVE TERM LIMITS FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

PRETTY GOOD DATA THAT SUGGESTS TERM  LIMITS DON'T MAKE THE DIFFERENCE   PEOPLE ADVOCATE THEM WANT THEM TO MAKE.

IF YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW HAWAII   POLITICS WORKS, IN REGARD TO MONEY AND POWER, IT'S  NOT ABOUT PEOPLE TAKING BRIBES IN A FELONIOUS WAY.

CERTAIN FOLKS HAVE AMOUNT OF INFLUENCE AND  AMOUNT OF ACCESS INTO THE POLITICAL SYSTEM,   THAT INDIRECTLY AFFECTS PEOPLE.

CALL IT CORRUPTION.

I CALL IT   INFLUENCE IT'S QUOTE LEGAL.

THAT IS WHAT THEY DIDN'T PASS.

I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE SPEAKER  OF THE HOUSE SAYS, ABOUT HOW, WELL,   WE CAN JUST KEEP WORK ON THIS AND BE PATIENT.

THERE'S NOTHING TO WORK ON ANY MORE.

IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND  WHAT HAPPENS NEW GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

AND I REALLY THINK PARSIMONY  IS THE BEST EXPLANATION HERE.

PEOPLE IN POWER DON'T WANT THAT LEGISLATION.

AND THEY'RE NOT ENOUGH LEGISLATORS TO OVERCOME   THAT KIND OF RESISTANCE.

>> THAT BILL IN PARTICULAR,   WE WERE THERE FOLLOWING IT, IT WENT ALL THE WAY  TO 5:59 ON FRIDAY OF THE LAST DAY OF CONFERENCE.

IT SAILED.

HAD SOME CHALLENGE  REWRITES BASICALLY UNOPPOSED.

WASN'T ANY FINANCIAL ASPECT TO IT HAD TO DO IF  YOU'RE EXECUTIVE OF A COMPANY AND GET A CONTRACT,   AND RELATIVES INVOLVED, YOU CANNOT  DONATE TO THESE PEOPLE SOMEHOW INVOLVED.

DURING THE LIFE CYCLE OF THAT CONTRACT.

IS THAT KIND OF HOW IT?

I AGREE.

PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT BILL.

OTHER ONE DIED RIGHT BY IT SIDE WAS TO  GIVE MORE MONEY TO THE STATE'S PROGRAM   TO PARTIALLY FUND PUBLIC ELECTION.

HELP MORE PEOPLE GET MONEY TO RUN   FOR OFFICE.

THEY DIED.

EXACT SAME COMMITTEE   FOR THE SAME EXACT MURKY REASONS.

THAT ONE DID HAVE FISCAL ASPECTS TO IT.

COULD NOT GET THE FINANCE.

>> THAT BILL COME UP AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

EARLY IN SESSION, THE BILL TO CREATE A  COMPREHENSIVE ESSENTIALLY FULL PUBLIC   FINANCING SYSTEM DIED EARLY.

HOPEFULLY PASSING PARTIAL BILL.

NO, IT DIED.

>> ADD TO THAT,   WE WERE TALKING TO REPRESENTATIVE YAMASHITA  ASKED HIM AT THE END OF CONFERENCE,   THEY COULD NOT PASS THIS BILL COULD  NOT GET FINANCE AND WAM TO SIGN ON.

DISAGREEMENT AND COULDN'T COME TO AGREEMENT ON IT.

WOULDN'T SAY WHAT EXACTLY THE DISAGREEMENT WAS.

THINK I THAT ALSO GOES TO, I THINK SOME OF  WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE   SHAKE UP OF FINANCE COMMITTEE.

>> YOU HAVE TO FEEL SORRY   FOR THE YAMASHITA TO HAVE TO FACE THAT  WHAT COULD OPPOSITION POSSIBLY DID?

THEY DIDN'T WANT BILL.

WASN'T PUT TO FINANCIAL ONE, FISCAL ONE ASIDE.

THE ONE ABOUT WHAT COULD CONTRIBUTE MONEY, DOESN'T  STRIKE ME AS SOMETHING THAT HIGHLY TECHNICAL.

DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS SOMETHING THAT YOU  WOULD BE LOOKING FOR THOSE EXACT NUMBERS   OR FORMULAS LAST MINUTE AND CAME TO BE 5:59.

>> TRYING TO ELIMINATE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

GIVE MONEY TO LAWMAKER GET  CONTRACT FROM THE STATE.

CONFLICT OF INTEREST?

REASONABLE THING I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR   YAMASHITA OR DELA CRUZ, JUDICIARY CHAIRS WE DON'T  RELEASE FROM FIN AND WAM, DID TRY TO PIN HIM DOWN.

EVASIVE.

FINANCE CHAIR WOULD NOT LIKE   TO HAVE THAT PROCESS SO MYSTERIOUS.

BILLS JUST DIE LIKE THAT.

>> NO POSSIBLE GOOD ANSWER.

>>Yunji: SECOND POINT NEW   MEASURE TO ALLOW CANDIDATES TO USE CAMPAIGN  MONEY TO PAY FOR CHILD CARE AND ELDER CARE.

ALLOWANCE THEY GIVE THEMSELVES, FAMILY LEAVE DIED.

NONPROFITS PUSHING FOR, GAVE THEMSELVES   HEALTHY RAISE.

>> YES.

OKAY.

>>Yunji: ALLOWED HEALTHY RAISE TO PASS.

>> YEAH.

WHEN THEY COULD HAVE   POWER TO TURN DOWN THE RAISES.

WASN'T JUST THEIR RAISE.

ALSO THE JUDICIARY.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

EXECUTIVE BRANCH.

COUNTY MAYOR.

>> >>Yunji: THIS IDEA   THAT THEY CAN USE CAMPAIGN MONEY TO PAY FOR CHILD  CARE COSTS ELDERLY CARE COSTS, THOUGHTS ON THAT?

>> GIVEN EVERYTHING ELSE THAT DIED, IT DOES  STAND OUT ALL THE OTHER BILLS TALKING ABOUT.

CAVEAT THEY SAY IS THAT YOU CAN USE YOUR  CAMPAIGN FUNDS IT PAY FOR CHILD CARE.

THE DEFENSE IS GET A MORE DIVERSE  FAMILY‑ORIENTED TYPE OF CANDIDATE.

>>Yunji: WORKING MOMS CAN NOW RUN FOR OFFICE.

>> YEAH.

NOT DEFENDING WHAT THEY DID, BUT LIMITATION  IS YOU CANNOT PAY YOUR SISTER, TO TAKE CARE   OF YOUR KIDS CAMPAIGN FUNDS OR SOMEBODY.

GOT TO BE ELDERLY CARE LIVES IN YOUR HOUSE.

SO THERE WERE SOME GUARDRAILS.

BUT.

>> I DO WANT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE.

SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN PUSHED BEFORE.

AND ACTUALLY SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH  THE CAMPAIGN SPENDING COMMISSION.

THEY ACTUALLY MADE DETERMINATION WHEN CANDIDATE  APPEALED TO THE CAMPAIGN SPENDING BOARD, TO SAY,   I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS MONEY TO TAKE  CARE A CHILD OR ELDERLY PARENT OR WHATEVER THE   CASE WAS, ALREADY A PRECEDENT SET BY THE CAMPAIGN.

CAMPAIGN SPENDING COMMISSION WAS IN SUPPORT.

THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

>> I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING   TO LEAD TO DAY CARE FOR CANDIDATES OR  ASSISTED LIVING FOR FAMILY MEMBERS.

IT'S ISOLATED THING.

THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM PEOPLE   WOULD GIVE DONATIONS TO THIS CANDIDATE.

PARTICULARLY IMPACTS FEMALE CANDIDATES.

RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

NOT ONLY ARE THEY, PRIMARY CAREGIVERS.

NOT ONLY FOR CHILDREN, BUT ALSO FOR PARENTS.

>>Yunji: I THINK ISSUE ISN'T REALLY THAT PEOPLE   WANT TO SAY LEGISLATURE CAN'T DO THAT.

IT'S MORE THAT WHY CAN'T THE GENERAL   PUBLIC GET SOME OF HE SAME BENEFITS.

>> THEY DIDN'T PASS PAID FAMILY LEAVE.

>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING DONATIONS TO A CAMPAIGN  VERSUS USING HAVE TO COME UP WITH VERY DIFFERENT   FISCAL IMPACT.

ON THE BUDGET.

NOT TO DEFEND EITHER ONE.

BUT ALSO, CAMPAIGN SPENDING COMMISSION KIND OF  FORCE LEGISLATURE'S HAND BY SAYING IT IS ALLOWED,   BUT SET NOTHING ACTUAL PARAMETERS OR RULES.

SO IF THEY HAVEN'T PASSED THIS LAW, TO ALLOW THAT,   BASICALLY, IF WOULD JUST EVERY SINGLE TIME COULD  BE CHALLENGE AND GO TO THE CAMPAIGN SPENDING   COMMISSION AND LITIGATED.

>> NOW IT'S IN STATUE.

SIGNS IT.

>> TALK QUICKLY ABOUT   THOSE RAISES BRING SOME CLARITY TO THAT.

SALARY SALARY COMMISSION APPROVES,   UP TO LEGISLATURE TO SAY YES OR NO.

SKEPTICS AND CRITICS SAID THAT THE   REPUBLICANS WANTED TO AT LEAST HAVE  A HEARING WHY THEY SHOULD NOT HAPPEN.

DISCUSSION NEVER EVEN HAPPENED.

IT'S NOT  THAT RAISES ARE JUSTIFIED OR NOT JUSTIFIED.

IT'S MORE THAT THERE WAS NO AIRING OF THIS.

>> I THINK THERE WAS NO AIRING OF IT BECAUSE   AIRING OF IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP THE SITUATION.

BECAUSE THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE DON'T THINK   LEGISLATORS SHOULD GET ANY ADDITIONAL  MONEY.

AND THEN MORE LIKELY, THERE IS   A SITUATION IN WHICH LEGISLATORS WOULD  ACTUALLY HAVE TO DEFEND GETTING INCREASE.

IT'S POSSIBLE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING   THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO VERY MUCH.

SO I THINK NOT LETTING REPUBLICANS   HAVE A HEARING WHICH, I DISAGREE WITH BUT  CAN UNDERSTAND, IS PART OF THAT PACKAGE.

THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT THIS.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT AND THEY DON'T WANT   TO EVEN TRY TO BE NUANCED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE  PROCESS IS SUCH THAT TRYING TO BE NUANCED ABOUT   IT IS IN A PUBLIC BODY IS REALLY PRETTY HARD.

I ALMOST FEEL SORRY FOR THEM.

>> WANT TO SAY TOO, WHEN THIS WAS ALL  GOING THROUGH THE SALARY COMMISSION,   LAWMAKERS DID COME AND TRY TO CHANGE.

REPUBLICANS CAME IN AND SAID THEY WOULD PREFER   TO REJECT IT AND THEN SOME OF THE PROGRESSIVE  LAWMAKERS CAME IN AND SAID WE SHOULD MATCH   THIS WITH THE ANNUAL MEDIAL INCOME LEVELS TO MAKE  SOME TYPE OF REASONING WHY GETTING THESE RAISED.

I WANTED TO ADD TO WHEN WE ASKED GOVERNOR GREEN  ABOUT HIS RAISE, HE SAID WOULD BE DONATING THE   ADDED RAISE WHATEVER HE RECEIVES FROM THIS RAISE.

>>Yunji: NOT POPULAR TO GIVE POLITICIAN A RACES.

I KNOW LEGISLATURE POLITICIAN RESERVATIONS.

KILLED SPORTS BETTING BILL.

WHEN WERE THEY GOING TO INCLUDE A LOTTERY BILL.

LAST WE HEARD OF SPORTS BETTING.

>> NO, WENT DOWN TO THE FINAL WIRE.

PRO GAMBLING LOBBY IS SOPHISTICATED WELL FINANCED.

COMES UP EVERY YEAR.

DIED IN EARLY DEATH.

INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

THEN FOLKS WANT A LOTTERY.

HAWAII AND UTAH   ONLY STATES BAN ANY LEGAL FORM OF GAMBLING.

THAT ONE IS GOING TO BE ONE TO WATCH.

I MEAN, BEEN TALK, BILLS IN THE PAST ABOUT  ALLOWING A CASINO HAWAII CONVENTION CENTER.

GAMBLING HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS.

>> YOU AND I HAVE BEEN COVERED   LEDGE FOR A LONG TIME I BELIEVE IT'S THE FURTHEST  GAMBLING MEASURE HAS EVER MADE IT AND OF COURSE   BIGGEST RATIONALE IS REVENUE.

SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER   IT WOULD BRING IN ALL OF THAT MONEY.

>> WHAT IS SO DIFFERENT, 30 STATES ALLOW   SOME FORM OF ONLINE BETTING.

NOT STAND‑ALONE CASINO.

DOESN'T HAVE THAT IMPRESSION OF  GOING TO ATTRACT MAFIA OR DRUGS.

I AGREE WITH DAN.

MAYBE WE'RE FINALLY GETTING   TO THAT TIPPING POINT REGARDING GAMBLING.

>> I DON'T WE'RE GETTING TO THE TIPPING   POINT ON GAMBLING PER SE.

I DON'T THINK LOTTERY THING   IS ANY CLOSER TO GETTING PASS.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT   FLOATS IN DOESN'T GET ANYWHERE.

I THINK SPORTS IS NEW KID ON THE BLOCK.

NOT SPORTS GAMBLING ILLEGALLY IN HAWAII.

BUT LEGAL SPORTING GAMBLING, BECAUSE IT HAS   ENORMOUS RUSH AMOUNT OF RUSH ON MAINLAND AND BUZZ.

TIED IN TO THE SPORTS NETWORK NOW.

BECOME A LEGAL PART OF MAJOR LEAGUE  SPORTS WHETHER IT ONE TIME IT WAS   YOU COULD GET SUSPENDED FOR DOING IT.

SOME OF THE IMPETUS IS SOPHISTICATE   LOBBYIST BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

NEVER COME THAT CLOSE.

COMES UP EVERY TIME SAME REASON.

PEOPLE THINK IT WILL RAISE A LOT OF MONEY.

IF I WERE A LOBBIEST FOR THE GAMBLING  THING WHICH IS NOT LIKELY IN MY FUTURE,   I KNOW DON'T WEAR THE VEST, BUT I WOULD SEPARATE  MYSELF AND MY ISSUE AWAY FROM THE OLD GAMBLING   ISSUES BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

JUST PUSH SPORTS.

>>Yunji: SIMILAR ACTUALLY IS MARIJUANA BILL.

WE'VE SEEN THIS ARGUED AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SAME SORT OF LOGIC AND REASONING  WHY HAVE MONEY MORE REVENUE.

HAVE SEEN A PRETTY DEDICATED PUSH AGAINST THIS.

DO YOU THINK MARIJUANA IS GOING TO COME UP AGAIN.

>> YEAH.

ONE THING REALLY   INTERESTING WAS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION,  GOT PRETTY MUCH ALSO AS FAR AS EVER GOTTEN.

I BELIEVE IT GOT TO DIDN'T GET A VOTE IN  THE HOUSE IN THE END GOT PRETTY CLOSE.

AND THEN I KNOW OVER THE INTERIM, REPRESENTATIVE  DAVID DONE A LOT OF WORK TO CHANGE THAT BILL AND   A PIECE A LOT OF HESITATIONS WITHIN THE HOUSE.

BUT BECAUSE THERE IS AN ELECTION DURING   THAT INTERIM TIME, SO MUCH CHANGE  OVERLAWMAKERS THAT IT CAME DOWN DO.

NEW LAWMAKERS PUSHED OVER THRESHOLD NOT  HAVING TO SUPPORT TO GET IT THROUGH.

INTERESTING THING ALL BILLS  FIRST YEAR OF THE BUY INYUM.

ALL BILLS CAN COME BACK NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION  LEFT OFF THIS IS LEGISLATIVE SESSION DIDN'T PASS,   MOST OF THEM GENERALLY DO.

>> YES.

THEY COULD.

ANOTHER THING ABOUT THAT MARIJUANA   BILL, REMEMBER I WAS ON SPOTLIGHT EARLY ON, YOU  ASKED ABOUT MARIJUANA, NO, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

THIS BILL WAS ALSO VERY DIFFERENT.

HE CREATED BILL INCLUDED NOT ONLY LEGALIZING   WE HAVE DECRIMINALIZING MARIJUANA.

THREE GRAMS?

>>I DON'T KNOW.

RIGHT HERE.

ALSO WOULD HAVE PUT IT REGULATORY BILL.

WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED TAKING OVER THE MEDICAL   CANNABIS PROGRAM AND ALSO ADDRESS HEMP AS WELL.

SO VERY COMPLICATED.

VERY MANY DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS.

CHRIS TODD SHOWING LEADERSHIP EARLY ON IN   SEAN QUINLAN DID A REMARKABLE THING.

KILLED IT.

RECOMMITTED IT RIGHT THERE ON THE FLOOR.

OPPOSITION HAS BEEN REMAINED SOLID.

STEVE ALM, PROSECUTOR, LINDA LINGLE  FORMER GOVERNOR, COMING OUT, AND THAT HAS   NOT, I DON'T THINK, BUDGETED AT ALL.

I DON'T THINK BUDGED AT ALL.

SAME PEOPLE CAME OUT LEGALIZING SPORTS BETTING.

>> MEDICAL MARIJUANA DID NOT PROVE TO BE THE   WINDFALL PEOPLE PREDICTED BECAUSE OF THE  SECURITY MEASURES REGULATION ON THE INDUSTRY.

SAME ARGUMENT WAS USED ABOUT  RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA.

PEOPLE TALK ABOUT TAXES.

THEN YOU TALK ABOUT REGULATIONS   AND ROLES AND THAT KIND OF THING.

IT WILL COME UP AGAIN.

AND GAMBLING SURE WILL COME UP AGAIN.

TWO PERENNIAL TOPICS.

ELECTION YEAR NEXT YEAR.

>> CHAD TAKE THIS ONE FOR ME.

LEGISLATURE REFUSED AGAIN, KEKOA WRITING IT  ALLOWING OHA DEVELOP HOUSING KAKAAKO AND TURNED   DOWN BIG MONEY LIFE ENDING WAIT LIST FOR A LOT.

KAKAAKO MAKAI INTERESTING, WE SAW,   FAMILIAR FACE JOIN NOW.

OHA CHAIR.

SOMEONE UNEXPECTED.

THOUGHT THERE COULD BE SOME MOVEMENT THERE.

WHAT HAPPENED.

>> KAI KAHELE RAN   FOR GOVERNOR.

AND LOST.

ALSO WAS IN CONGRESS AND FORMER STATE SENATOR.

REALLY KIND OF FORCE OF NATURE MUCH AND HE DID   MAKE A STRONG EFFORT CONVERT EFFORT  TO GET THE KAKAAKO MAKAI BILL GOING.

AND BIG OBSTACLE WAS GONE.

SCOTT SAIKI HOUSE SPEAKER PART OF HIS DISTRICT.

ALL OF THOSE FOLKS THERE.

THAT SAIKI WAS GONE.

AND BUT IT DIDN'T WORK AT ALL.

AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP ON IT.

BUT REMEMBER, THEY GOT THIS LAND IN EXCHANGE  FOR CEDED LAND PAYMENTS THAT WERE PAST DUE.

AND THEY WANT TO USE IT AS ASSET.

WANTED TO DEVELOP IT AND MAKE MONEY.

OTHER SIDE OF THIS COIN, DHHL SEPARATE  ORGANIZATIONS BOTH MISSION HELP NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

THAT CASE STRONG LEADER KALI WATSON COMING  BACK FOR ANOTHER TIME WANTED ADDITIONAL   $600 MILLION THAT WAS ON TOP OF THE  ALREADY $600 MILLION BEEN ALLOCATED.

I THINK DHHL SHOWN PROGRESS I  DON'T THINK THEY THE GUY DIME.

ONE EFFORT GET IT DOWN TO  $15 MILLION WENT NOWHERE.

BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES WILL BE BACK.

NOT GOING AWAY.

>>Yunji: DAN, GO AHEAD.

>> KAKAAKO MAKAI UNDER KAI KAHELE   REPACKAGED WORKFORCE HOUSING.

NOT SOLELY FOR HAWAIIANS.

GET HOUSED.

BUT POLICE OFFICERS,   FIREFIGHTERS, TEACHERS, MARKETED THAT WAY.

THAT'S ALL PART OF THE BIGGER WHAT ARE YOU   GOING TO DO ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

SO TRANSIENT ACCOMMODATIONS INTERESTING   THAT ARGUMENT DIDN'T WIN THE DAY.

TALKING ABOUT HAWAIIAN SOVEREIGNTY.

ABSTRACT.

LOOK AT HOW HAWAIIAN SOVEREIGNTY   WORKS IN REAL LIFE GOOD EXAMPLE.

DEFERENCE TO HAWAIIANS THING   THEY GET THAT OTHERS ARE NOT AVAILABLE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NECESSARILY   GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

I MEAN, STRUGGLE BETWEEN, REALLY THE STRUGGLE   BETWEEN THE STATE AND OHA HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS  AND STRUGGLE BETWEEN THE POLITICIANS AND OHA ON   WHETHER TO BUILD ON THIS LAND.

IT WAS LAND THAT IS THEIRS.

WAY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS  HAPPENING ON THIS ISLAND.

THE KALI WATSON AND HAWAIIAN HOME  LANDS, THAT'S AN INTERESTING ONE.

BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVING HIM A OFF  DEFERENCE AND HAD A LOT OF IDEAS.

A LOT VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF IDEAS.

RENTAL PROPERTIES, AND SO ON.

THEY CUT HIM A LOT OF SLACK  GAVE HIM A LOT OF MONEY.

HE SAID I CAN'T SPEND IT ALL.

CAN I POSTPONE IT?

WHICH IS ARGUMENT THAT OTHER AGENCIES MAKE  WITH A LOT OF SCEPTICISM FROM LEGISLATURE.

NOT WILLING TO LET HIM HAVE  AS MUCH SAY IN THIS' WANTS TO.

HE'S NOT ABLE TO SAY BECAUSE THIS IS HAWAIIAN  ISSUE, ON THE IT'S HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS ISSUE,   INVOLVES HOUSING, GIVE ME MORE  DEFERENCE NOW TO ALLOW TO TRY THIS OUT.

I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT HOW THE  LEGISLATURE IS DEALING WITH THIS.

BECAUSE THIS REALLY, TO ME,  IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF ISSUE.

>> TALK ABOUT HAWAIIANS FOR A SECOND?

SO BILL THAT PASSED, GOT MOCKED, WAS LAULAU DAY.

IT GOT PASSED.

AS WELL HAWAIIAN HISTORY MONTH.

MOVING AS TRUMP TOOK OFFICE AND  WENT ON HIS ANTI‑DEI PROGRAM.

AND THE LEGISLATURE BASICALLY SAID, NO.

WE'RE GOING TO GO ALL IN ON THESE TWO TOPICS.

COULD HAVE EASILY JUST SAID, TOO HOT.

THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THEY WOULD   HAVE TO FACE HAWAIIAN CONSTITUENTS.

NO URGENCY TO DECLARE HAWAIIAN   HISTORY DAY OR LAULAU MONTH.

>>Yunji: YOU BRING UP THE   PRESIDENT WHAT ACTIONS COULD MEAN FOR US.

LEGISLATIVE SESSION BARELY FINISHED.

DATES PUT OUT THERE.

HOUSE SPEAKER WANTS TO MOVE RATHER QUICKLY.

SENATE PRESIDENT WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER  THE FEDERAL BUDGET IS RELEASED IN NOVEMBER.

ASHLEY WHAT IS YOUR SENSE OF THE SPECIAL  SESSION, SEEMS MORE LIKE A WHEN THAN IF.

>> PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE.

QUESTION OF WHEN.

THREE DIFFERENT DATES PUT OUT.

I THINK IT'S SEPTEMBER, NOVEMBER,   AND I THINK AUGUST?

RIGHT?

I THINK.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> OCTOBER?

>> OCTOBER.

END OF AUGUST, INTO SEPTEMBER.

>> FOUR TIME PERIODS.

ALL AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT  THESE FEDERAL CUTS WE'RE ALSO,   ALL HAPPENING AS THIS HUGE INCOME  TAX CUT CAME IN LAST SESSION.

IS BEING IMPLEMENTED.

LEAVING THAT'S GOING TO   MEAN PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE  THAT IS BEING CUT FROM THE STATE BUDGET.

I THINK THAT IS ALSO CONSTRAINING  OUR STATE BUDGET SEEING CUTS COME IN.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIAL SESSION.

HAVE BEEN SOME RUMBLING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE   GOING TO DO ABOUT INCOME TAX CUT RAMPS UP.

CUTS COME THROUGH, HAVE TO RAMP THAT BACK?

THERE HAS BEEN SOME CALLING ADVOCACY  GROUPS RELOOK AT INCOME TAX CUT.

ACROSS THE BOARD.

WASN'T TARGETED CERTAIN INCOME   LEVELS.

EVERYBODY GOT INCOME TAX CUT.

HAVE TO LOOK INTO.

IF WE SEE THE CUTS THAT THEY ARE ANTICIPATING.

>> THESE COULD BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CUTS.

DO YOU THINK THAT TAX CUT WILL GET CLAWED BACK.

IRONIC WE'RE BACK AT CLAWING BACK TAX CUT THAT   KYLE YAMASHITA INSERTED IN CONFERENCE.

>> EXACTLY GIVE HIM CREDIT.

GOVERNOR GREEN DIDN'T WANT TO TAX CUT THAT HIGH.

HAPPILY SIGNED BILL.

SORT OF IRONIC MAYBE REDUCE OUR HISTORIC  TAX CUT, BIGGEST STATE HISTORY IN PART   BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO RESTORE RATHER  CONTINUE HIS TAX CUTS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

WHICH OF COURSE DEFINITELY  FAVOR CORPORATIONS AND WEALTHY.

FIRST 100 DAYS NOBODY PREDICTED WHAT COULD  HAVE HAPPENING WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING.

CHANGING BY THE HOUR.

BY THE DAY.

YOU WILL STARTING IS TO SEE RESISTANCE.

FROM THE FED.

SEEING RESISTANCE FROM EVEN REPUBLICANS  TO CUTTING ENTITLEMENTS AND DEFENSE.

SPEAKER PRESIDENT SAID TO MEMBERS,  DON'T GO ON VACATION DURING THIS TIME.

BE FLEXIBLE.

WE MAY HAVE   TO CALL YOU BACK WHENEVER THAT TIME IS.

>> CHAD'S POINT, HOLD A SPECIAL SESSION.

SHOOTING MOVING TARGET.

HOW MUCH DO WE NEED?

BOTTOM LINE.

>> WHY WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL AFTER NOVEMBER.

WOULD BE THE ARGUMENT.

>> AFTER SEPTEMBER 30.

THAT'S WHEN OCTOBER FIRST IS WHEN  THE NEW FEDERAL FISCAL YEAR STARTS.

>> ALSO DON'T KNOW I MEAN, THERE'S ENORMOUS  AMOUNT OF STUFF IN LITIGATION RIGHT NOW.

NO IDEA HOW LONG THAT'S GOING TO TAKE.

LONGER  THAN WHAT PEOPLE COMMONLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT   WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.

>>Yunji: YOU HAVE ADMINISTRATION THAT   PRESIDENT SIGNING EXECUTIVE ORDER TO  DISMANTLE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

THAT OBVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE A  HUGE IMPACT ON HAWAII AND WE   HAVE A HUGE RELIANCE ON MEDICAID AND MEDICARE.

ASHLEY, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY IS   AT STAKE STATE CANNOT MAKE IT UP.

>> NO.

ONE THING THEY EMPHASIZED.

GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME   TOUGH DECISION IF THESE TYPES OF CUTS COME DOWN.

REALLY LOOK AT WHAT IS  GOING TO HAPPEN TO MEDICAID.

AND ALREADY SEEING THESE CUTS COME DOWN.

NONPROFITS LOSING THAT FUNDING.

PASSED LEGISLATION TO DISTRIBUTE $50 MILLION  WORTH OF GRANTS, TO THESE NONPROFITS.

AND I THINK ONE THING THAT GOT BROUGHT  UP ON THE FLOOR, DEBATING THIS BILL.

TWO REPRESENTATIVES, TWO SENATES  WHICH TWO GET THESE GRANTS.

SAYING IT'S NOT SURE, THEY'RE NOT  SURE WHICH ONES ARE GOING TO NEED IT.

SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING  FUNDS BEEN CUT FROM FEDERAL FUNDING.

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.

>> NONPROFITS FEEDING WAIANAE.

NOT HIGHFALUTIN.

>>Yunji: DIRECT IMPACT.

ABSOLUTELY.

WHERE DO YOU SEE,   THING ABOUT THE TAX MECHANISM TOO.

YOU CAN'T TOTALLY RECOUP   THAT MONEY JUST ON A DIME.

YOU CAN'T TAKE THE TAX CREDIT BACK.

EVEN IF YOU WERE TO END IT NOW.

GOT TO WAIT FOR I THAT MONEY   TO COLLECT.

DO WE HAVE ENOUGH INTERIM.

WE DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE TOUCHED.

2026 ELECTION YEAR.

COMING RIGHT AFTER SESSION WHERE   THEY MAY HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO VOTERS, FOLLOWING  NOVEMBER, WHY THEY ROLLED BACK THE TAX CUTS.

I THINK THAT IS DOA.

>> WE THINK ABOUT TOUGH CHOICES WHAT KIND   OF TOUGH CHOICES DO THEY HAVE TO MAKE.

EVERYTHING.

TOUGHEST CHOICE THEY HAVE TO MAKE, WHAT DO WE DO   WHEN WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THE SITUATION IS.

I MEAN, $50 MILLION IS SMALL EXAMPLE OF THAT.

THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE  SCOPE OF IS GOING TO BE.

THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING.

THIS IS NOT SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A LONG PERIOD   OF TIME TO RECOVER FROM CUTS SAY WELFARE REFORM  WENT OR WHEN SOMETHING MOVED FROM MOVES INTO BLOCK   GRANTS AND TO A DIFFERENT KIND OF SYSTEM.

OR EVEN FOOD STAMPS.

THIS IS CHANGE FOR WHICH YOU  HAVE NO TIMELINE RIGHT NOW.

YOU CAN'T AFFORD FISCALLY THE WORST‑CASE SCENARIO.

TO SIMPLY TAKE IT OVER.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO LISTEN FOR HINTS AND SO ON.

THIS IS DONALD TRUMP.

HE DIDN'T OPERATE THE WAY, ISN'T JUST THE CUTS.

IT'S WHAT HE SAYS AND HOW YOU HAVE   TO FIT ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN.

IF I WERE LEGISLATOR RIGHT NOW, I WOULD   CONVINCE MYSELF I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT I COULD DO  THAT IS NOT JUST EFFICACIOUS BUT EVEN SPEAKING TO   THE PROBLEM OUT THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CLEAR  WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM IS OUT THERE.

>>Yunji: WHAT'S INTERESTING ASHLEY WE  HAVE SO MANY RELATIVELY NEW LAWMAKERS.

MANAGING THE SITUATION.

>> YEAH.

EXACTLY.

I THINK JUST REALLY MOVING TARGET.

JUST NOT QUITE SURE WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE A CUT.

I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION  ABOUT POSSIBLY CHANGING SOME OF THE   PROGRAMS WITHIN DLNR TO AVOID GETTING SOME  FEDERAL FUNDING CUT BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORDS   LIKE CONSERVATION OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT ARE SEEING THESE CUTS COME DOWN FROM   THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IS GOING TO  BE UP TO THEM MONITOR WHAT IS HAPPENING.

THEY'RE SAYING 200 MILLION SET ASIDE  IS UNALLOCATED FUNDS THE WANTED TO PUT   IT TOWARDS THINGS WHAT THEY HAVE TO COME  INTO SPECIAL SESSION TO DO AND ALLOCATED   $200 MILLION IF IT'S NEEDED.

WATCH AND SEE IF IT'S NEEDED   AND WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE COMING DOWN.

>>Yunji: MY GUESS IT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED   AND THEN SOME OF.

>> OH, YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY SAYING,  IT'S GOING TO BE JUST FINE.

>>Yunji: LET'S TALK ABOUT A LITTLE  BIT JUST THE DYNAMICS OF SESSION.

GETTING BEYOND THE BILLS AND SPECIAL  SESSION THAT COULD BE COMING.

GIVEN WE HAVE SO MANY NEW MEMBERS IN THE HOUSE.

ONE IN THE SENATE, SENATOR DECOITE MOVING OVER.

KOUCHI, STABLE SET OF LAWMAKERS.

NEW SPEAKER  NAVIGATING A BUNCH OF NEW HOUSE MEMBERS.

HOW DO YOU THINK EACH SIDE DID?

>> EXCITING TO SEE MORE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE.

AND BEING MORE OUTSPOKEN.

I'M NOT MAKING A POLITICAL STATEMENT.

BIPARTISANSHIP AND DISCUSSING  ISSUES IMPORTANT WEST SIDE OF OAHU.

GOP GROWTH AND, THEY ARE EXERCISE THAT.

WHETHER THEY'RE ACTUALLY GETTING BILLS PASSED,   FINALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME GOT  A BILL TO CONFERENCE COMMITTEE.

PASS.

>> NO.

IT DIDN'T PASS.

I THINK ENCOURAGING.

A LOT OF NEW BLOOD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

I WANT TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS, 51  MEMBERS IN THE HOUSE, IT'S IN THE TEENS OR HIGHER.

AND YOU SEE THIS ALL THE TIME.

NEW BLOOD COMING IN AND WAIT THEIR TURN.

SUDDENLY THEY'RE IN CHARGE.

NEVER SEEN SUCH A LONGEST LARGE WAVE,   VACANCIES GOVERNOR GREEN TOOK THEM FROM  THE HOUSE AND PUT THEM IN HIS CABINET.

THEY GET A LITTLE IMPATIENT.

>> PROGRESSIVES, THEY DIDN'T HIDE UNDER THE WINGS.

THEY'RE OUTSPOKEN.

SPEAKER NAKAMURA GOT ELECT SPEAKER CAMPAIGN   EMBRACING DIVERSITY AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS REACHED TO  REPUBLICAN AND LAUREN MATSUMOTO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT   INVITED TO SPEAK AT THE LAST PRESS CONFERENCE.

SEE THAT AIR OF COLLEGIALITY CONTINUES.

>> ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

>>Yunji: ONE OF THE VOTING, INTERESTING.

MIDWIFERY VOTE.

DEMOCRATS VOTING WITH REPUBLICANS, WE SEEM   KIND OF COALESCING IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND WHETHER  IT'S NOW SO MUCH MORE DEBATE I WOULD SAY ON THE   FLOOR BECAUSE YOU'RE SEEING DIFFERENT FACTION.

SO AS THESE NUMBERS GROW, YOU'LL SEE THESE   DIFFERENT KIND OF ALLOCATIONS OF VOTES.

NOT SO SURE ALONG.

ALONG PARTY LINES WHAT IS COMING DOWN TO.

>> ANOTHER BILL.

SHE'S RIGHT.

MIDWIFERY.

ANOTHER BILL THAT DIED.

AGAIN, AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

IN FACT, YAMASHITA WAS A MAJOR BLOCK.

DON'T WANT TO KEEP SINGLING   OUT KYLE.

MAINLY IT MADE IT.

OTHER VOICES GOT TO GET THINGS DONE.

>> TIME LIMITS LAW GOING TO  EXPIRE THIS YEAR IF IT DID NOT.

>>Yunji: DIVERSITY IN GOVERNMENT, GOOD THING?

>> DIVERSITY PER SE, IS DIVERSITY   IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

WHAT YOU GET OUT OF   DIVERSITY IS NOT NECESSARILY GOOD.

IT'S LIKE  THE CONSTITUTION TALKS ABOUT EQUAL PROTECTION.

THAT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY  TO DO REALLY GOOD THINGS.

AND CREATES A SET OF RIGHTS.

DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT THAT WAY.

ALONG THOSE LINES LISTENING TO THIS, AND LISTEN  NUMBERS THAT ARE NEW, PRETTY GOOD ARGUMENT THAT   YOU CAN STILL MAKE CHANGES WITHOUT TERM LIMITS.

ALSO THE ARGUMENT GET TERM LIMITS.

INTERESTING BILLS KILLED, MENTION ONE AT THE LAST  MINUTE, THIS BAN ON IMPORTING ASSAULT RIFLES.

>> WHY DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH?

>> 50 CALIBER WEAPONS.

>> THAT QUESTION IS FROM MY MOM BY THE WAY.

>> ON THE BOX, ASSAULT PISTOLS.

THEY WERE PISTOLS.

INCLUDE ASSAULT RIFLES, SHOTGUNS INCLUDED.

EXCEPTIONS, INHERITANCE  RIGHT, FARMERS HAVE EXCEPTION.

WHAT IT CAME DOWN TO, THE BILL  WENT DOWN TO THE VERY END.

IN THE GALLERY WERE PROPONENTS TO KILL  THE BILL AND ADVOCATES HAS PASSING THAT.

WHY IT HAPPENED?

>> I DRAW BACK ON THE SCHOOL TEACHER ROLE   HERE THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR WORK DONE ON TIME.

NOTHING HERE, THAT CAME UP THAT   WAS SUDDENLY BRAND NEW.

EVERY ONE OF THESE THINGS,   NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T BEEN FIGHTING THE IN'S AND  OUTS OF GUN CONTROL LAWS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

CERTAINLY A BODY OF KNOWLEDGE OUT THERE THAT  WAS MY FIRST REACTION HERE, LOOKED LIKE IT   WAS GOING TO PASS.

SOME RESISTANCE.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THINGS THEY DISCOVERED.

CAN ARGUE  IF YOU WANT THAT WE, GUN LOBBY CAME THROUGH.

>> CERTAINLY WON.

TO YOUR POINT, THAT BILL   WAS BEING TWEAKED RIGHT DOWN THERE ON THE FLOOR.

AND TIM RICHARDS AND BRENDAN ELEFANTE WE'RE GOING   TO WORK ON THIS DURING THE INTERIM.

GOING TO COME BACK.

HAWAII'S STRONGEST BEEN LAWS IN THE COUNTRY.

WORK TO BE DONE.

COMPROMISE.

WANTS TO BE ABLE TO KILL AXIS DEER.

BROUGHT IT ON THE FLOOR TO  PURPOSELY KILL THE BILL.

LAST DAY, IF IT'S AMENDED IN THE SENATE,  HAS TO ALSO BE AMENDED IN THE HOUSE.

SO ANYTHING THAT GETS BROUGHT UP ON THE FLOOR  LAST SECOND HAS TO HAVE BEEN CONCURRENTLY HAPPEN   IN THE OTHER CHAMBER.

KILL THE BILL.

>>Yunji: I KNOW THIS IS RISKY IN  TELEVISION.

ASKING YOU ALL TO BE BRIEF.

IF WE COULD GO AROUND QUICK, WE  HEAR THE SPEAKER GIVE THEM AND I,   SENATE PRESIDENT GAVE I, SPEAKER GAVE THEM AN A.

WHAT GRADE DO YOU GIVE THIS LEGISLATURE?

>> C PLUS.

>> AI.

>> LIKE A B‑MINUS.

>> I DON'T GRADE ON THAT.

BECAUSE IT'S LEGISLATIVE‑CENTRIC.

WHAT I MEAN BY THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT NADINE   SAID A LOT OF IMPORTANT BILLS GOT PASSED.

THAT IS GOOD TO KNOW.

IF YOU WANT TO RATE THE LEGISLATURE, AS  GOOD BY DOING THAT, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED   AS CITIZENS JOB LEGISLATURES DOES.

PUBLIC POLICY WORKS FOR US.

IMPORTANT THINGS GOT PASSED FOR US.

WE TALKED FIREWORKS, INSURANCE STUFF.

WE DIDN'T TALK MUCH ABOUT BIOSECURITY.

PROOF IN THE PUDDING GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTATION.

DON'T KNOW THAT STATE AS A  CHECKERED RECORD ON SOME OF THIS.

>>Yunji:MAHALO TO YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT –  AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS ‑ FROM THE HONOLULU  STAR‑ADVERTISER, DAN NAKASO AND FROM CIVIL BEAT DOT  ORG, CHAD BLAIR.

ASHLEY MIZUO OF HAWAII PUBLIC  RADIO AND POLITICAL ANALYST NEAL MILNER.

NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, ELECTRIC BICYCLES HAVE BEEN  AROUND FOR YEARS, BUT HAVE RECENTLY SURGED IN  POPULARITY.

THE RISE OF E‑BIKES ON OUR  STREETS, CONICIDES WITH A RISE IN SAFETY CONCERNS.

NEW LAWS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED, BUT SOME SAY MORE  REGULATION IS NEEDED.

JOIN US NEXT WEEK FOR OUR DISCUSSION  ON E‑BIKE SAFETY.

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

I’M YUNJI DE NIES FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

UNTIL NEXT TIME.

ALOHA!