Insights on PBS Hawai‘i is sponsored by Carlsmith Ball and Aloha State Daily WHO WILL REPRESENT MAKIKI, PUNCHBOWL, TANTALUS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE ON THE BALLOT THIS SIDE.

THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY COME TOGETHER.

TO DISCUSSED ISSUES FACING THEIR COMMUNITY.

IT'S AN OPEN SEAT RACE.

HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE CANDIDATES NEXT ON INSIGHTS.

♪ >> Daryl: ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I...I'M DARYL HUFF.

IN THE STUDIO WITH US TONIGHT WE HAVE THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES LOOKING TO REPRESENT DISTRICT 26 ON THE ISLAND OF OAHU.

THE COMPACT AND DIVERSE DISTRICT INCLUDES MAKIKI, PUNCHBOWL, PAPAKOLEA, AND TANTALUS.

THERE IS A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IN THIS DISTRICT.

INSIGHTS WILL FEATURE THAT RACE ON JULY 9.

VOTERS IN THAT DISTRICT WILL ELECT A NEW REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TWO DECADES AS DELLA AU BELATTI LEAVES THE LEGISLATURE TO RUN FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND YOU'LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAI'I YOUTUBE PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

THE ORDER OF INTRODUCTION WAS DETERMINED BY A RANDOM DRAWING.

JANEL FUJINAKA IS A LIFELONG O'AHU RESIDENT.

SHE SERVED AS A NAVY RESERVIST AND CURRENTLY WORKS AS A TSA AGENT.

SHE VOLUNTEERS WITH THE CIVIL AIR PATROL, HONOLULU AIDS WALK, EQUALITY HAWAI'I, AND THE HONOLULU PRIDE PARADE AND FESTIVAL.

NATHAN CHAR GREW UP IN MAKIKI AND GRADUATED FROM PUNAHOU.

HE RECEIVED A DEGREE IN POLITICAL SCIENCE FROM UH MANOA AND WORKED AS AN EXHIBIT TECH AT BISHOP MUSEUM.

HE HAS SERVED ON THE MAKIKI NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD SINCE 2017.

ARJUNA HEIM WAS BORN AND RAISED IN HONOLULU.

SHE RECEIVED A MASTERS IN URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING FORM UH MANOA.

SHE IS THE HOUSING POLICY DIRECTOR FOR THE APPLESEED CENTER FOR LAW AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE AND SERVED AS COMMITTEE CLERK FOR REP.

SCOT MATAYOSHI.

IAN ROSS WAS RAISED ON KAUA'I AND MOVED TO MAKIKI AFTER GRADUATING ROM UH MANOA.

HE HAS SERVED AS THE MAKIKI NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD CHAIR AND CURRENTLY WORKS AS THE PUBLIC AFFAIRS DIRECTOR AT THE WAIANAE COAST COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH CENTER.

LET ME GIVE THE FIRST QUESTION TO NATHAN CHAR.

FOR ALL OF YOU, WHAT ARE VOTERS TELLING YOU THEY WANT YOU TO DO WHEN YOU GO OUT?

WHAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING YOU'RE HEARING FROM THEM?

>> THE NUMBER ONE THING I'M HEARING FROM FOLKS DOWN FROM THE FREEWAY TO TANTALUS IS AFFORDABILITY TO SOME DEGREE.

SPECIFICALLY WITH HOUSING.

BECAUSE FOLKS THAT RENT DOWN BY THE FREEWAY, THEY'RE SEEING THEIR RENT SKYROCKET.

THE FOLKS LIVING IN IN CONDOS AD MOTION -- HOUSES ARE SEEING PRICES SKYROCKET.

SEEING PRICES GO UP AGAINST BECAUSE OF INSURANCE.

THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT HOUSING AFFORD AFFORDABILITY AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> Daryl: JANEL FUJINAKA, WHAT ABOUT YOU?

>> GOOD QUESTION, AND THANK YOU, DARYL, FOR THAT.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH NATHAN OFTEN THIS.

AFFORDABILITY IS AT THE TOP.

HOWEVER, A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S UNAFFORDABLE.

SO LOOKING AT A SOLUTION WOULD BE INTRODUCING RENT STABILIZATION.

AND GOING WITH WHAT OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANTS, ABOUT ONE-THIRD OF INCOME GROSS WAGES.

THOSE ARE SOME ISSUES, ALONG WITH INCREASE PRIEVING INCREASEN EVERYDAY ITEMS.

GROCERIES, FUEL.

ALL THOSE ISSUES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.

>> Daryl: IAN ROSS?

>> WHAT COMES UP MOST OFTEN IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

I'VE BEEN SURPRISED HOW NEIGHBORS ARE AFRAID TO GO OUTSIDE.

ONE, THE NUMBER OF RECKLESS DRIVERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT COMES INTO EFFECT WITH CRIME AND HOW IT'S CHANGED OUR PUBLIC SPACES.

THE COMMUNITY GARDEN IS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING A FENCE BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH VANDALISM IS AFFECTING IT.

THEY LOST THEIR SUN.

WAS ALMOST HIT BY A VEHICLE CROSSING KEWALO.

THAT'S ONE THAT COMES UP OFTEN.

>> Daryl: ARJUNA HEIM, WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?

>> WHAT EVERYBODY SAID.

PUBLIC SAFETY, AFFORDABILITY.

ANOTHER THING, CORRUPTION.

GOVERNMENT THAT ISN'T WORK FOR PEOPLE.

PEOPLE SEE THESE LONG-TERM INCUMBENTS FOR NOT WORKING FOR THEM.

MOVING TO SHORTER TERMS.

I, MYSELF, WOULD NOT BE IN THE POSITION FOR 20 YEARS IF ELECTED.

I THINK WE NEED NEW BLOOD AND PRO-- ROTATIONS.

>> Daryl: CORRUPTION'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE.

ANOTHER LEGISLATOR UNDER INVESTIGATION.

IAN ROSS, DO YOU THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S TOP OF MIND TO VOTERS AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO ADDRESS THAT?

>> I THINK IT'S PERMEATING MANY ISSUES.

IT HAS DOWNSTREAM EFFECTS.

THEY CAN DO PUBLIC SAFETY AND AFFORDABILITY.

THERE'S A LOT TO DEAL WITH.

IN THIS CASE, THESE WERE EXISTING CRIMES.

THERE WERE STATUTES THERE.

MAYBE WE NEED TO BEEF UP MORE INVESTIGATION.

LOOKING INTO THINGS IN A MORE TIMELY BASIS.

>> Daryl: LET ME QUICKLY -- WOULD YOU FAVOR TERM LIMITS IN THE LEGISLATURE?

>> I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

THE LARGE NUMBER OF HOUSE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN SERVING THREE AND A HALF YEARS OR LESS.

EVEN MORE PEOPLE ARE NEWER.

I THINK IT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THE CULTURE, INCREASE TRANSPARENCY.

>> Daryl: JANEL FUJINAKA, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF THE CORRUPTION ISSUE AND PUBLIC TRUST?

>> I WORKED FOR KIM AS HER COMMITTEE CLERK.

THIS ISSUE WAS ALWAYS BEING BROUGHT UP BY THE REPRESENTATIVES AND LEGISLATURE FOR THE FACT OF THE MATTER THAT THEY WANTED AN INVESTIGATION.

GOOD GOVERNMENT CAUCUS WANTED TO REFORM THE WAY THAT THE LEADERSHIP PRETTY MUCH JUST LOOKED AT THE INFORMATION AND MOVED FORWARD WITH HOW IT IS NOW.

I WOULD MOVE WITH DOING MORE GOVERNMENT REFORMS SO THAT OUR LEGISLATURE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

WE'RE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.

WE HAVE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.

>> Daryl: NATHAN CHAR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON COR RUMTIONZ?

-- CO.

>> TERM LIMITS, YES.

I VERY MUCH SUPPORT TERM LIMITS.

SOMETHING REASONABLE.

FOUR TO SIX.

STATE HOUSE TERM BETWEEN EIGHT AND 12 YEARS SEEMS REASONABLE.

>> Daryl: IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO FIGURE IT OUT.

>> NOT ONLY THAT, BUT A LEGISLATOR, WHEN THEY PASS A BILL, THEY GET TO SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE BILL THAT THEY PASS SO THEY CAN WE VISIT IT, FIX IT OR STRENGTHEN IT.

>> Daryl: YOU ALL MENTIONED AFFORDABILITY AND PRETTY MUCH HOUSING TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IN THE OPENING REMARKS.

AND LET ME START WITH ARJUNA ON THIS ONE.

YOUR DID THE -- DISTRICT IS PREH BUILT OUT.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT INCREASING DENSITY.

DO YOU SUPPORT INCREASING DENSITY TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S A LAND USE TERM.

YOU DO IT ACROSS THE BOARD SO YOU DON'T SEE SPIKES OF UNEQUAL INCREASE COST OF LAND.

BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INCREASING DENSITY, WHERE WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING IT PARTICULARLY IS ALONG TRANSIT OR HE WANT WHYED -- PARTICULARLY IN THE EVE IWILEI STATION.

A MAJOR CHUNK OUT OF THE PENT UP DEMAND.

>> Daryl: SAME QUESTION.

LONG TIME NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

THERE WAS A LOT OF NIMBY TALK IN THAT DISTRICT.

>> MY TIME AS CHAIR, WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT 21H PROJECTS.

>> A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE 65 YEARS AFFORD BILL.

THAT WAS ONE NEAR THE FREEWAY.

WE SUPPORT MUCH OFF PIIKOI THAT'S RECENTLY BEEN SUPPORTED AND RECEIVED FUNDS.

>> Daryl: IS IT HIGH REASON RISE BUILDINGS?

>> ONE WAS HIGH-RISE.

THE HIGH-RISE HAS ABOUT 200 UNITS, I BELIEVE.

THAT WAS TRADE WIND.

WE DIDN'T SUPPORT EVERY PROJECT EVERY TIME.

WE NEED THE RIGHT PROJECT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE DENSITY IN MAC MAKIKI, WE SEE A LOT OF DENSITY IN THE REST OF THE ISLAND.

YOU HAVE MIX THE USE.

YOUR GYM RIGHT THERE, GROCERY SHOPPING.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY IN MAKIKI, THEY DON'T OWN A CAR.

BUSING ON VERY SPECIFIC ROUTES.

UNIVERSITY, OTHER PLACES LIKE THAT.

OTHER A TEN-MINUTE CAR RIDE TURNS INTO A 90 MINUTE DRIVE.

INCREASING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS IMPORTANT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING WITH MORE DENSITY.

>> Daryl: LET ME MOVE TO JANEL.

DO YOU FAVOR MORE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT EVEN IN THIS DISTRICT?

>> IN MAKIKI NOT SPECIFICALLY.

I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE 2678.

INFRASTRUCTURE.

LIKE IAN SAID, A LOT OF RESIDENTS WANT TO HAVE THAT CONSEQUENCES OF A CAR.

UNFORTUNATELY IN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, EVEN WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, MAKIKI BANYAN, DOESN'T HAVE MUCH PARKING SPACES DUE TO BILL 7.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT CERTAIN AREAS AND SEE IF WE CAN ADJUST ACCORDINGLY.

OFFER FREE BUSES WOULD HELP.

LOOKING INTO A BARREL TAX FOR THAT.

>> Daryl: NATHAN.

>> I'M FORTUNATELY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN FAVOR OF PUTTING UP MORE HOUSING.

SO LIKEWISE, I'M IN FAVOR.

HOWEVER, IT HAS TO BE DONE WITH RESPECT TO THE NASH NEIGHBORHOO.

WHEN FOLKS COME IN, THEY NEED TO PRESENT BEFORE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD AND GET KIND OF THE APPROVAL OF RESIDENTS, THE NEIGHBORS AND HASH OUT THOSE FINER DETAILS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS CARE ABOUT.

WHAT STREETS ARE THEY GOING TO BE BLOCKING, ARE THEY GOING TO BE PREDICTABLE?

TREAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH CARE.

WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MANY UNITS GOING UP.

BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF ON PROSPECT -- NOT PROSPECT.

THURSTON WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT THERE, THEY WENT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS, KEPT THEM LOOPED IN SO IT WAS BUILT.

THAT'S THE KIND OF NEIGHBORLY CONCERN WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY.

>> Daryl: INTERESTING.

I'M GOING TO RESPECT OUR VIEWERS SENDING QUESTION.

AS A RESIDENT, I HAVE READ ALL THE FLIERS AND THEY SOUND SIMILAR.

I HAVE YET TO HEAR ONE NEW POLICY, MY PUSH TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERN.

WHAT'S ONE POLICY ACTION, EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

LET ME START WITH JANEL.

ONE POLICY ISSUE THAT SORT OF MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND STAND OUT DIFFERENTLY AGAINST SORT OF THE SOUND OF THESE THINGS, WHICH I GOT TO AGREE SOUNDS THE SAME.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

TO THE RESIDENT THAT SENT THAT IN, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES IS NATIVE HAWAIIAN LANDS WHICH IS PAPAKOLEA.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE REFUNDABLE TAX CREDITS FOR RESIDENTS TO IMPROVE THEIR HOMES.

AND, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPROVING IT, GIVE THEM SOMETHING BACK.

THEY PUT IN THE HARD WORKS.

WHEN THEY DECIDE TO SELL IT OR PASS IT ON, AT LEAST THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE.

SO THAT'S ONE THING WORKING WITH DHHL THAT I WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY.

>> Daryl: NATHAN.

ONE THAT YOU THINK -- >> MY ONE POLICY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE OTHERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS PUBLIC OPTION FOR HOME INSURANCE.

LAST YEAR THE LEGISLATURE PASSED PUBLIC OPTION FOR HURRICANE INSURANCE, BUTS THAT ONLY APPLICABLE TO LARGE CONDO AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS.

WHEN THEY IMPLEMENTED THAT, WE SAW PRICES FOR INSURANCE DROPPED BY 70%.% OF THE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT EXPANDED TO INCLUDE SMALLER THREE, FOUR-STORY WALKUPS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

NOW THAT WE KNOW IT WORKS FOR HURRICANE INSURANCE, IF WE CAN DO IT FOR FIRE, FLOODING SHINING AND ALSO BENEFIT FROM THE 70% DROP, THAT WOULD BE HUGE.

>> Daryl: IAN ROSS, DO I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, JUST PRIMARILY A CITY ISSUE.

FROM THE STATE LEVEL, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE NECESSARY TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY PARTICULARLY IN YOUR AREA.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF CRASHES ON LUNALILO ON-RANCH.

-- RAMP OF THE.

BEYOND THAT, CRIME IS STRONGLY RELATED TO POVERTY.

SUPPORTING WORKING FAMILIES.

PROVIDE MORE RESOURCES.

THOSE ARE WAYS WE CAN MAKE THE COMMUNITY FEEL SAFER AND BRING BACK OUR STRONG SAFE OF COMMUNITY MAKIKI USED TO BE KNOWN FOR.

>> Daryl: JANEL FUJINAKA, WHAT - ARJUNA HEIM, WHAT JUMPS OUT TO YOU?

>> INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE OUTDATED INFRASTRUCTURE BANKING.

2019 REPORT GAVE US A D MINE US, I BELIEVE.

>> Daryl: SEWER, STORM WATER -- >> ELECTRIC.

>> Daryl: ALL THAT.

>> STREETS.

>> Daryl: IN THE MAKIKI AREA IS INADEQUATE FOR GROWTH.

>> INADEQUATE FOR GROWTH.

INFRASTRUCTURE BANKING IN TERMS OF WHAT THE LEGISLATOR CAN DO, BASICALLY LEVERAGE STATE FUNDS AND GET ONE TO FIVE.

EVERY DOLLAR YOU GET US YOU GET FIVE, BEST-CASE SCENARIO $10 ON IT.

THESE NOW NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP INFRASTRUCTURE.

BY REMOVING THAT OUT OF THE FINANCIAL STACK FOR NEW HOUSING, LOWER THE PRICE AND PROVIDE BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE STATE.

FOR OUR DISTRICT, REINSTATING SOLAR TAX CREDIT.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT IN OUR FUTURE.

>> CAN I JUMP IN?

>> Daryl: GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE PUBLIC HEALTH BACKGROUND.

I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FEDERAL CUTS THAT WE'RE SEEING TO OBAMA CARE AND MEDICARE.

WE'RE ABOUT TO SEE TENS OF THOUSANDS KICKED OFF OF HEALTH ISSUES BY JANUARY.

STATE WOULD ESSENTIALLY GIVE A SAFETY NET AND WASN'T ABLE TO PASS ANY.

WHOEVER WINS THIS ELECTIONS WILL BE COMING INTO A DISASTER OF INCREASING OF LACK OF INSURANCE BY TWO, THREE, FOUR TIMES.

>> Daryl: YOU ALSO HAVE DOCTORS THAT AREN'T BEING REIMBURSED.

DOCTORS LEAVING OUR STATE.

>> WE NEED TO SHORE OF UNINSURED FUND.

IF YOU GIVE SERVICES THAT WAY, IT'S BEEN PRETTY INADEQUATE.

WE'RE GOING TO BURN THROUGH THOSE FUNDS QUICKLY.

>> Daryl: LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HEALTHCARE.

ARJUNA HEIM, HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU ABOUT THE HEALTHCARE CRISIS?

HPH AND HMSA ARE TALKING ABOUT MERGING BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE.

PEOPLE FALLING OFF OF MEDICAID.

THE SHORTAGE OF PRIMARY CARE DOCTORS.

WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS AND WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE DONE?

>> VERY CONCERNED.

I PERSONALLY, I'M A TYPE ONE DIE BET IG.

-- DIABETIC.

YOU WORK CERTAIN AMOUNT A WEEK, YOU GET HEALTHCARE.

I'VE BEEN OFF BEFORE AND IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE.

I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS LACK OF PRIMARY CARE DOCTORS.

MY PRIMARY CARE DOCTOR CLOSED.

I STILL DON'T HAVE ONE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO THAT.

SOMETHING THAT THE STATE CAN DO IMMEDIATELY IS REMOVE GET FROM THE BUSINESS SIDE OF MEDICAL CARE.

UP TOJUST SO THAT OUR LOCAL DOCS CAN KEEP THEIR FACILITIES OPEN.

>> Daryl: I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY STATE THAT TAXES.

JANEL FUJINAKA, YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE HEALTHCARE CRISIS.

>> YES.

MY WHOLE THOUGHT PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL CUTS THAT ARE COMING THIS WAY.

ESPECIALLY WITH OUR AGING POPULATION AND KUPUNA.

WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SUPPORTING THEM.

A LOT THAT I TALK TO SAYS THAT THEY WANT TO AGE IN PLACE.

THEY WANT TO STAY HOME.

SUPPORT THEM BY OFFERING THEM OPPORTUNITIES, WORKING ACROSS DIFFERENT AGENCIES AS WELL AS NONPROFITS.

PEOPLE LIKE HPH AND HMSA THAT WANT TO MERGE EX IT'S NOT THE BEST PLAN.

IT INCREASES AND DECREASES THEIR CHANCES FOR REAL MEDICAL SERVICES.

ESPECIALLY IF THEY WANT TO SOMEWHERE THOSE SERVICES AVAILABLE AT HOME.

OTHER AREAS WITH SUBSTANTIAL ABUSE.

A LOT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING OUR UNHOUSE THE NEIGHBORS WITH THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEDICAL.

AND MEETING THEM COMPASSIONATELY SO WE CAN GET THEM OFF THE STREET AND REACCLIMATED INTO OUR SO HE FELT.

>> YOUR CONCERNS AND THOUGHTS.

>> WE DID DISCUSS SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EDUCATION BECAUSE ONE OF THE BOTTLENECKS FOR GETTING MORE DOCTORS IS WE DON'T HAVE EDUCATEDDERS TO TRAIN LOCAL NURSES AND DOCTORS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT LOCAL DOCTORS AND NURSES LIKE HOW THEY RECENTLY HAVE THE ONE TO HAVE DOCTORS STAY IN FIVE YEARS IN RURAL PART OF THE STATE.

AND, YES, MULTIPLE THINGS.

ANOTHER ONE WAS THE MERGER OF HPH AND HMSA, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THAT.

IT WOULD BE CREATE AN EFFECTIVE MOP, EFFECT MONOPOLY.

>> Daryl: YOU BROUGHT UP HEALTHCARE.

LAST THOUGHT ON THAT?

>> YEAH.

WE REALLY BOTTLENECK FOR OUR NURSING SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE SO MANY QUALIFIED APPLICANTS.

IF WE'RE AGE TO BRING MORE INSTRUCTORS, THAT WOULD BE HUGE.

TWO-THIRDS OF GRADUATES ARE LEAVING.

THERE'S NOT MUCH MEDICAL RESIDENCY PROGRAMS.

WE'RE HAPPY THAT WAIANAE COMP IS STARTING A RESIDENCY PROGRAM.

IF WE START MORE OF THOSE, WE CAN START TO FILL THAT GAP MORE QUICKLY.

>> Daryl: OKAY.

I GOT TO CREDIT OUR VIEWERS.

>> A LOT OF INTEREST.

>> Daryl: YEAH.

IT'S EXCITING TO SEE.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DYNAMIC.

I'M NOT GOING TO CONTROL THE QUESTIONS.

THE STATE IS SPENDING -- THIS IS ABIGAIL.

STATE IS STUDYING, DISCUSSING, PLANNING FOR A NEW JAIL.

NOTHING HAPPENS EXPECT SPENDING MORE MONEY.

HOW WILL CANDIDATES ADDRESS THAT ISSUE?

ARJUNA HEIM, DO WE NEED A BIG NEW JAIL?

>> IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION.

ULTIMATELY, THE CONDITIONS.

IN WHICH INMATES ARE LIVING IN ARE UNTENABLE AND UNETHICAL AND TERRIBLE.

WE NEED TO UPGRADE THE FACILITY.

ALSO NEED TO INVOTE INVEST IN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

WE DO A LOT OF PLANNING AS A STATE.

WE DON'T DO A LOT OF ACTION.

WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION.

>> Daryl: NATHAN CHAR, YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE JAIL?

>> I FULLY AGREE.

YES, I DO AGREE WITH ARJUNA THAT OUR CURRENT JAILS ARE DILAPIDATED AND IN DESPERATE NEED OF MAINTENANCE.

TO THAT POINT, WE SEND SO MANY OF OUR PRISONERS TO THE MAINLAND, AND THERE'S HIGH RATES OF SUICIDE BECAUSE THEY DON'T GET THE FAMILY SUPPORT, COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

FOLKS THAT STAY HERE WOULD GET.

YES, WE DO NEED TO TAKE ACTION AND NOT JUST -- YES.

>> Daryl: IAN ROSS.

>> HORRIFIC CONDITIONS.

TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAWSUITS.

THERE'S A LACK OF MEDICAL --.

ANOTHER CELL, FOR EXAMPLE.

THEY WANT TO PUT MORE SECURITY CAMERAS IN.

WIRING DOESN'T EXIST EVEN FOR SECURITY CAMERAS.

IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD, THERE'S NO RAY TO -- WAY TO RENOVATE THE CURRENT STRUCTURE.

>> I DON'T BELIEF WE NEED TO START WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

START OFFERING TIMES, ENG ESPECY FOR BRINGING INMATES BACK.

INSTEAD OF SENDING THEM TO ARIZONA, FOR EXAMPLE.

WE RESPECT AREN'T GIVING THEM AE COMPASSION TO REACCLIMATE INMATES INTO OUR SEOUL.

SOCIETY.

A LOT OF THESE ISSUES STEM FROM THEM GOING BACK INTO THE SYSTEM RATHER THAN TRYING TO FIX THE BROKEN SYSTEM AND REFORM IT.

THAT INCLUDE THE BUILDINGS.

WE WEREN'T TAKING CARE OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURES.

LET'S TRY AND FIX WHAT WE HAVE FIRST BEFORE WE START SPENDING MILLIONS ELSEWHERE.

>> Daryl: IN FAVOR?

>> NO, I'M OWE OPPOSED.

>> Daryl: I'M GOING TO HOLD OFF FOR THIS MINUTE.

I INTRODUCED EACH OF YOU BUT DIDN'T SAY MUCH ABOUT YOUR HISTORY.

ARJUNA HEIM, WHAT ABOUT YOUR STORY AS A PERSON?

MAKES YOU GOING TO BE A GOOD 14R5EU9ER?

14R5EU9 -- LEGISLATOR.

>> I ORIGINALLY HAD ZERO INTERNTIONZS OF RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

BUT I'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH MY WIFE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

WHAT DOES OUR COUNTRY LOOK LIKE?

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF HAWAI'I FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, IT'S NOT REALLY LOOKING -- SORRY.

IT'S NOT REALLY LOOKING ALL THAT BRIGHT.

IN TERMS OF JOB DIVERSITY, IN TERMS OF HOUSING OPTIONS, IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO BUILD A LIFE WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY.

WE'RE STAYING FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN.

CLOSE TO BOTH OF OUR PARENTS AND I'M BRINGING WITH ME FIVE YEARS OF POLICY EXPERIENCE.

MORE IMPORTANTLY RESEARCH EXPERTISE.

>> Daryl: NATHAN.

WHAT PERSONAL QUALITIES?

>> IN THE AREA 25 YEARS.

I WIT TO SCHOOL THERE AND THE MY HOME.

THAT'S WHY I JOWND JOINED THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD NINE YEARS AGO.

CURRENTLY THE CHAIR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I BRINGS JUST THE LOVE OF MY HOME.

I WANT TO GIVE BACK WHAT -- I WANT TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT RAISED ME.

AND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, I'M FRUSTRATED.

NOW THAT I HAVE BEEN CHAIR FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, I'VE REAL LIED THE NUMBER OF ROAD BLOCKS PUT IN THE WAY TO A GROUND LEVEL COMMUNITY ORIENTED APPROACH TO FIXING OUR DISTRICT.

IF ELECTED, I BELIEVE I WOULD BE ABLE TO JUMP THOSE HURDLES.

>> Daryl: JANEL FUJINAKA.

>> SURE.

THANK YOU.

I GREW UP IN A LOCAL HOUSEHOLD.

MY DAD WAS A NAVY RESERVIST AND CONSTRUCTION WORKER.

MY MOM WORKED WORK FOR TSK.

I HAVE 15 YEARS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE.

I WORKED FOR SENATOR SAM SLOM AND REPRESENTATIVE KIM COCO.

GROWING UP HERE LOCAL, IT HAS BECOME SO UNAFFORDABLE.

IT'S A SHAME.

EVEN AS A CITY BUS OPERATOR, I COULD BE MAKING MORE AT WASHINGTON STATE KING COUNTY AND L.A.

THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE HERE.

HERE EVEN ON THE OUTER ISLANDS FOR KAUA'I COMPLEX, TRANSPORTING STUDENTS, IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

HOWEVER, THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS ADD UP TO AFFORDABILITY.

MY LOCAL BACKGROUND, I WANT TO BRING BACK WORKING FAMILIES AND SUPPORT MY FAMILY AS WELL.

>> Daryl: IAN ROSS, QUALITY THAT WOULD MAKE YOU A GOOD LEGISLATOR?

>> I WAS BORN IN MAKIKI, RAISED BY A SINGLE MOM.

DISABILITY RIGHTS ATTORNEY WHO BECAME A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

I LOVE MAKIKI.

I JOINED THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD NINE YEARS AGO.

I SERVED FIVE YEARS AS CHAIR.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET A LOT DONE.

SECURE A LOCATION FOR A BALK PARK.

WORKED IN THE FIRST KOREAN CULTURAL CENTER.

I HELPED GET ALL WAY STOPS AT MAKIKI AND PUNCHBOWL.

I ALSO BRING A DECADE OF PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC SERVICE.

FOUR SESSIONS AT HAWAI'I STATE CAPITOL.

THREE AT ALLEGES HEIMERS SOCIAL.

I GO THEI GOT TO KNOW ADVOCATES.

NOTHING PREPARED ME WHEN MY MOM WAS DIAGNOSED.

KUPUNA HEALTH PROGRAM.

I HELPED FIGHT FOR.

THAT WAS A POWERFUL REMINDER OF THE POWER OF GOOD PUBLIC POLICY.

>> Daryl: SOME ISSUES FROM OUR VIEWERS.

COUPLE ON HOMELESSNESS.

HOMELESSNESS IS OUT OF CONTROL.

YOU GUYS END UP WITH PEOPLE MOVING IN AND OUT OF YOUR DISTRICT.

SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING HERE, THEY END UP IN YOUR DISTRICT.

UNDER THE BRIDGES.

A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS?

DOWDO YOU SUPPORT THE GOVERNOR'S KAUHALE PLAN?

FROM VICKI.

JANEL FUJINAKA, IS THERE A KAUHALE IN YOUR DISTRICT YET?

IS.

>> NO.

>> Daryl: WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH YOU?

>> A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A PROGRAM.

I THINK WE INSIDE TO APPROACH OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS WITH COMPASSION AND RESPECT AND LET THEM TELL US WHEN THEY'VE READY TO GO TO THE HOUSING PROGRAM AND SERVICES I ADDRESS THE EARLIER.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ALONG WITH SUBSTANTIAL ABUSE ISSUES FIRST BEFORE WE OFFER ADDITION THE SERVICES OF.

A LOT, ESPECIALLY THE ONES I'VE MET, THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY AND NOT BENEFIT.

A LOT STILL WANT TO LIVE THE LIFE THEY'RE LIVING.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE WORK WITH THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS SO WE CAN START TO ENCOURAGE AND HOPEFULLY GUIDE THEM TO A BETTER SITUATION.

>> Daryl: I'M HEARING YOU SAY THE MENTAL HEALTH SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS IN INADEQUATE.

>> YES.

>> Daryl: NATHAN CHAR.

TALK ABOUT HOW IT REFLECTS IN YOUR DISTRICT AND BROADLY IF YOU WANT TO.

>> JANEL HIT IT ON THE AHEAD.

WE HAVE IN INADEQUATE MENTAL HEH SERVICES.

OVERCROWDED.

SO WE DO NEED TO SPEND MONEY TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE DOCTORS, NURSES AND THE SECURITY STAFF SO THEY CAN SAFELY TREAT FOLKS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIAR TO LIAR -- LIKE TO SEE IS MORE MONEY PUT INTO THE PUT MONEY INE JUDICIARY.

BUILD THE TRUST AND RAPORT AND CONVINCE THEM TO HABITATE AND GO INTO THE SOCIAL SERVICES AND SHELTERS THAT THEY NEED TO.

>> Daryl: IAN ROSS.

>> I HEAR THE PART ABOUT THE JUDICIARY, BUT A LOT ENDS UP IN HEALTHCARE.

EMERGENCY ROOMING ARE CARRYING THE LOAD HERE.

ESTIMATES ARE $900 MILLION A YEAR SPENT BASE BECAUSE OF PEOPE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

OFTEN VISITING SEVEN TO NINE TIMES A MONTH.

INVESTING IN THE STATE HOSPITAL, MORE DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAMS, MAKING SURE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MENTAL ILLNESSES GET THE SUPPORT THEY NEED.

THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER WAY TO DIVERT CURRENT RESOURCES.

I ALSO HEARD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE KAUHALES.

I THINK IT'S STILL INNOVATIVE OF WE SEE THE NATION INTERESTED.

OVERSIGHT IS PROGRAM.

IN NEW PROGRAMS YOU OFTEN HAVE TO GET RUST OFF.

I STILL SEE A WAY FORWARD WITH MORE OVERSIGHT.

ALSO MORE WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

>> Daryl: ARJUNA HEIM.

>> SO I THINK WE HAVE A WIDE SPECTRUM OF HOMELESSNESS ACROSS THE STATE.

FAMILY HOMELESSNESS.

CAN'T AFFORD INCREASES IN PRICES.

INDIVIDUAL HOMELESSNESS CAN BE AFFECTED BY A NUMBER OF THINGS.

IN TERMS OF THE KAUHAWAI'I -- KAUHALE, INTENT WAS HONORABLE.

WITHOUT SEEING A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE.

WHAT I WOULD HOPE TO SEE IS THE KAUHALE PROGRAM GETS TURNED INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY AND PROVIDE WRAPAROUND IN THE BOTTOM.

PEOPLE DON'T HAVE I.D.. GET THEM I.D, LINED UP INTO SERVICES.

>> Daryl: WOULD THAT BE BUILDING ACTUALLY BRICK AND MORTAR AS OPPOSED TO SMALL TINY HOME.

>> MM-HMM.

>> Daryl: AND ENOUGH FOR THE HOMELESS POPULATION?

>> ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SINGLE OCCUPANCY.

STUDENTS CAN LIVE IN IT.

IF YOU'RE WORKING ON THE OUTER ISLAND FOR A MONTH, YOU CAN LIVE IN IT.

WE DON'T ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN ACROSS THE STATE.

>> Daryl: A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS 39 WOULD YOU SUPPORT EXTENDING COUNTIES TO KEEP THE HALF PERCENTAGE EXCISE TAX FOR TRANSIT?

WHY OR WHY NOT, FROM MONICA.

>> AND EXTENDING RAIL TO YOU HAVIVE, WHICH WHICH I WOULD GO H YOUR GUYS' DISTRICT.

WOULD YOU SUPPORT BUILDING OUT RAIL, EVEN IF IT MEANS GOING IT THROUGH MAKIKI DISTRICT?

I KEEP CALLING IT MAKIKI.

IT'S BIGGER THAN THAT.

>> TRANSIT TAX, I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD ALLOW COUNTIES TO CHARGE A FEE.

TOURISM 1-7B9 ISN'T JUST INDUST.

WE NEED TO START DIVERSIFYING.

LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TOMBS TOMB- OPPORTUNITIES WITH RAIL.

BECAUSE IT'S COSTING SO MUCH AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO SKYROCKET.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE AT THIS POINT.

I THINK WE SHOULD STOP, READJUST AND VISIT THE TABLE AND SEE WHAT WOULD BE CHEAPER.

THAT DOES ALSO WORK INTO THE FACT THAT IF WE WERE TO OFFER FREE TRANSPORTATION, THEY CAN GET TO THE RAIL STATIONS.

AND GET FROM POINT A. TO B. EASIER.

>> Daryl: IAN ROSS, THOUGHTS ABOUT THE TAX AND RAIL.

>> TAXPAYERS AND VOTERS VOTED FOR RAIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE RAIL CONTINUE.

I THINK CONNECTING OUR FASTER PART OF OUR POPULATION WITH EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION IS A GOOD LONG-TERM INVESTMENT.

>> Daryl: ARJUNA.

>> I AGREE WITH A IAN ON THAT.

WE'RE PAYING QUITE A BIT 69 AND WE PAID QUITE A BIT FOR THE H-3.

EVERYONE FROM THE KO'OLAU USES THAT TRANSIT ROUTES AND I DON'T HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOW MUCH IT COSTS.

IT MAKES SENSE TO CONNECT FROM THE WEST SIDE TO U.H.

>> I HAVE LISTENED TO FOLKS, AND GENERALLY SPEAKING OUR DISTRICT OPPOSES THE RAIL.

>> Daryl: WHAT DO THEY OPPOSE?

THE IDEA COMING THROUGH OR BECAUSE IT COST MONEY.

>> ALL OF THE ABOVE.

IT COST A LOT OF MONEY AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY BENEFIT.

NOWHERE NEAR US.

IT'S BEEN A BOONDOGGLE FROM THE START, BUT I DO KNOW THAT OTHER PLACES HAVE SEEN THE BENEFIT OF THE RAIL.

IF LENGTHIF ELECTS U I WILL TAKR SCEVMENT SCENT SIMPLE, LOOK AT THE RAIL AND MAKING SURE IT'S DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

MAKING SURE MONEY IS SPENT PROPERLY.

EVEN THOUGH MY DISTRICT DOES OPPOSE THE RAIL, HE THIS, THEY N ACKNOWLEDGE IT WAS DONE THE RIGHT WAY.

>> Daryl: SEVERAL POLITICAL TYPE QUESTIONS.

THIS IS FUN.

FROM BAILEY.

YOU'RE ALL DEMOCRATS.

WE HEARD THINGS NOT WORK.

WOULD HAVING ANOTHER LAWMAKER FROM ANOTHER HELP?

IAN ROSS.

WOULD IT BE A GOOD IDEA TO GET MORE REPUBLICANS IN THE LEGISLATURE?

>> I THINK WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN WASHINGTON, D.C.. VOTERS SEEM POISED TO REJECT THAT KNOWS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I'LL WORK WITH PEOPLE WITH BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE.

JUST YESTERDAY, WAIANAE COMP SUPPORTED REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT, AND WE WERE GIVEN TRAINING TO THE WAIANAE COAST.

I'M COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH EVERYONE AT THE LEGISLATURE TO FIND A PATHWAY FORWARD FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE DISTRICT AND STATE.

>> Daryl: ARJUNA HEIM, THE QUESTION WAS MORE SPECIFICALLY, DO YOU THINK IF WE HAD MORE OF A TWO-PARTY SYSTEM IN THE STATE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH MORE?

OR DO YOU THINK IT'S BETTER, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THE NATURE OF THE QUESTION.

>> I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE DIVERSITY OF IDEAS AND HAVING MORE CORN TIGS.

-- COMPETITION.

I DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM.

I'M NOT RUNNING FOR A REPUBLICAN.

DEMOCRATIC SPEAKS MORE TO MY VALUES AND WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON.

I THINK ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS IS YOU SEE PEOPLE GET STUCK IN THIS PROCESS, WHETHER THEY'RE DEMOCRATIC OR REPUBLICAN BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE LEGISLATURE FOR SO LONG.

KNOWING WHEN TO STEP OUT.

THAT'S WHAT A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY IS ABOUT.

>> Daryl: I SAW YOU LEANING BACK AND THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THIS.

>> WHY NOT HAVE A MORE ROBUST TWO-PARTY SYSTEM IS ABOUT IDEAS AND BEING HEARD.

AND SO MANY -- I HAVE LISTENED TO FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, THIS IS MY FOURTH TIME GOING THROUGH THE DISTRICT.

A LOT OF THE FRUSTRATION I'VE HEARD IS NOBODY'S TURN TO TALK TO ME.

THAT'S WHY I MADE IT MY CORE POINT TO GO OUT, MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE HEARD, MAKE SURE I HAVE THEIR IDEAS SO I CAN TRULY REPRESENT THEM.

>> Daryl: WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S MOSH REPUBLICANS YOU'RE LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS.

>> CORRECT.

>> Daryl: JANEL FUJINAKA, THOUGHTS?

SHOULD WE BE -- BE BETTER OFF WITH MORE PEOPLE, MORE BALANCE?

>> GOOD QUESTION.

IRTHINK OUR POLITICAL IDEAS IN BOTH PARTIES ARE BROKEN.

WORK ACROSS PARTY LINES.

THAT INCLUDES THE GREEN PARTY, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DIVERSITY.

WE NEED TO FIX FIRST WHAT WE HAVE AND GO FROM THERE.

WITH ALL THESE IDEAS, HOW CAN WE FIX SOMETHING IF IT'S BROKEN.

>> Daryl: IT'S OCCURRED TO ME IN THIS LAST WEEK, AND ANYBODY CAN JUMP IN.

THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.

THERE'S A LOT OF NATIONAL MEDIA TALKING ABOUT IN NEW YORK, VERY, VERY IMBRUE PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRA.

ANY OF YOU SEEING THIS TILT IN HAWAI'I WHERE VOTERS ARE DEMAND -- THE DEMOCRATIC BASE IS GOING REALLY PROGRESSIVE?

ANYBODY NOTICING THAT?

ARJUNA, YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONTACTS IN THAT K3450U7B9D.

-- COMMUNITY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> THE UNDERLYING SENTIMENT OF POPULISM IS SPEAKING TO YOU.

THINGS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.

SERVICES ARE LESS EFFECTIVE AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A CHANGE.

MAYBE PEOPLE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH DEM ACCURATIC SOCIALISM.

>> WE WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM MY COMMUNITY.

A LOT OF OUR ELECTED LEADERS AREN'T LISTEN.

WITH THIS $35,000 BRIBE, THEY WEREN'T LISTENING TO PEOPLE.

PEOPLE WANT CHANGE.

GET BACK TO OUR GRASS ROOTS IN HAWAI'I.

>> PEOPLE ARE -- PEOPLE CARE.

IN 2024, EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP GOT THE HIGHEST.

AND THERE'S AT LO THERE'S A LOT.

DURING MY FIVE YEARS AS NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD CHAIR, I TRIED TO HEAR ABOUT DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AND GET SOMETHING DONE THERE.

BROUGHT IN COMMON SPACES FOR DAG PARKS.

AT THE LEGISLATURE, WE NEED TO BE -- DELIVERING ON THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE -- INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> Daryl: THE QUESTION COMES UP IS, DO YOU THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULD BE MORE LIBERAL AND MAYBE MORE RADICAL?

>> >> I THINK THEY SHOULD BE DELIVERING MORE FOR THE PEOPLE OF HAWAI'I?

NATHAN?

>> SO THERE IS -- I AM PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND HELP PUT ON THE LAST FOUR, FIVE CONVENTION.

I HEAR QUITE A BIT ABOUT HOW LIBERAL OUR DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS.

THAT SAID, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND FOLKS THAT I'M LISTENING TO THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT ARE NOT QUITE AS LIBERAL AS THOSE IN THE PARTY ITSELF.

THEY -- YEAH.

SO I HEAR SOME PUSHBACK.

HEY, LET'S NOT BE RAISING SO MUCH TAXES TO FUND VARIOUS INITIATIVES.

>> Daryl: GO AHEAD.

>> DIVERSITY IN THE PARTY U WHETHER IT'S NEW YORK, YOU HAVE A DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST.

IN HAWAI'I YOUR ROLE IS TO REPRESENTS YOUR COMMUNITY.

WHATEVER THAT PUSHES YOU, THAT'S WHERE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS.

>> Daryl: OKAY.

COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE LEGISLATURE OPERATES.

JOHN THAN, WHAT CHANGE WILL YOU SUPPORT AS TO HOW THE LEGISLATURE OPERATES?

WE'VE HEART COMMITTEE CHAIRS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER.

THEY CAN KILL BILLS BY NOT HOLDING A HEARING.

TIME FOR NEW RULES.

BOTH OF YOU, YOU GUYS BOTH WORKED FOR LEGISLATORS?

-- [INDISTINCT] >> JANEL, SEEMS THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS A PRACTICE --.

YES.

>> Daryl: IS THAT YOUR PERCEPTION?

>> I HAVE TO AGREE.

THIS LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, I ENJOYED WORKING AT THE LEGISLATURE.

WE GOT TO SEE A LOT OF ISSUES, HEAR CONCERNS FROM COMMUNE MEMBERS AND NONPROFITS.

I GOT TO SEE 9 BACK OF THE HOUSE.

I DO BELIEVE, ESPECIALLY FOR COMMITTEE CLAIRE -- CHAIRS, THEY HAVE SO MUCH POWER.

WE NEED TO STREAMLINE THE AMOUNT OF BILLS EVERY YEAR.

NOT EVERY ISSUE IS GOING TO BE HEARD.

WE COULD EXTEND THE LEGISLATURE TIME PERIOD SO WE COULD HEAR BILLS.

MAYBE ABOUT TWO MORE MONTHS.

I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO REVISE RULES TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS HEARD EQUALLY.

AND CHANGE EVERY SO OFTEN.

>> Daryl: SORRY.

ON TOP OF THE QUESTION I READ, ANOTHER QUESTION FROM RON IN PEARL CITY.

WOULD YOU BE WORKING YEAR ROUND AND NOT JUST JANUARY AND MAY.

IAN, IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN?

DO YOU THINK ONE, CHANGING THE WAY THE COMMITTEES RUN, ALONG WITH GIVING LEGISLATURE MORE TIME.

>> I THINK WE HEARD INTENTION.

WANTING TO STREAMLINE BILLS AND GIVE EACH BILL MORE TYPE TO BE CONSIDERED.

CHAIRS PLAY AN IMPORTANT POINT IN SIFTING THROUGH BILLS.

ONE PART OF THE PROCESS I WANT TO SEE CHANGED, SOMETIMES IT GETS TO CONFERENCE.

SOMETIMES PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

SOMETIMES THE CHAIR DOESN'T SHOW UP.

THAT MAY BE A BACKDOOR WAY TO KILL BILLS.

I DO THINK THAT'S A PROCESS THAT HAS TO END.

BEYOND THAT, I THINK THAT LONGER SESSIONS WOULD GIVE MORE TIME FOR CONSIDERATION.

ONE THINGS THAT NICE WHEN YOU TESTIFY AT CITY COUNCIL.

>> Daryl: OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

>> IN THE LEGISLATURE, YOU HAVE 24 HOURS BEFORE YOUR TESTIMONY IS LATE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FULL-TIME ADVOCATE -- >> I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BILLS.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EXTEND IT.

INTRODUCE BILLS THEY HAVE NO INTENS OF HEARING.

WE SHOULD MAKE LEGISLATORS TO HEAR BILLS.

SO THEY'RE NOT WASTING TAXPAYER'S TIME.

>> Daryl: BOILER ROOM.

LOCK THEM IN THE ROOM.

>> I BELIEVE ARIZONA IS THE ONLY STATE.

>> Daryl: YOU JUST RUNG A BELL.

>> WE DO HARD WORK OF THIS AND THEY DO GOOD WORK SOMETIMES.

WHAT I'LL SAYING IS OUR LEGISLATORS, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE MOTIVATED, MAYBE THAT ACCOUNTABLE OF THIS LOOKING AT WHAT IS AVAILABLE.

AND COMPROMISING.

SAYING, YES, WE CAN DO THAT.

>> Daryl: NATHAN.

>> I DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD EXTEND THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO TRULY CONSIDER BILLS AND NOT JUST LET THEM DIE.

AS A RESULT OF NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR THEM.

3,000 IS QUITE A FEW.

THERE NEEDS TO BE TIME.

THERE ARE PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE FULL-TIME LEGISLATIVE.

HAVE TIME TO WALK THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE VOICES ARE HEARD.

I AS A LEGISLATOR, MAKE SURE I SHORE UP THE BILLS.

>> Daryl: THIS IS NOT A FARM COMMUNITY, EXPECT FOR COMMUNITY GARDENS BUT THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FROM FELIX.

ANY CANDIDATES HAVE IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO MAKE HAWAI'I LESS DEPENDENT ON IMPORTED FOOD?

>> I HAVE AN IDEA.

OFFERING FARMERS AND LOCAL FARMERS INCENTIVES AND WORKING BECAUSE URBAN HONOLULU IS SO DENSELY POPULATED, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES IF WE WORK WITH REN TARS AND HOMEOWNERS TO GROW THEIR OWN FOOTS.

THAT'S BEING DONE NOW IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.

FOOD FOR YOURSELF BUT IF WE EXBAND ON THAT.

>> Daryl: IF YOU'RE IN A COB CONTINENT DOE, HOW DO YOU GROW YOUR OWN FOOD?

>> PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO A BALCONY OR WITHIN THE UNIT.

NOT DIFFICULT TO GROW SOME, NOT ALL.

THAT WILL DECREASE THE AMOUNT WE HAVE TO SHOP EVERYDAY.

ACCESSIBILITY.

NOT ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE.

THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS TO GROWING THINGS IN UNITS.

>> Daryl: I SAW YOU NODDING.

YOU'RE LIKE, THAT'S INTERESTING.

>> I WAS HOPING WE GO INTO -- I THINK WE NEED VERTICAL FARMING.

ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES IS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND PEOPLE A LIVEABLE LIVEABLE WAGE TO LABOR IN THE HOT SUN.

MAKE IT EASIER SELL THEIR PRODUCE TO CUSTOMERS.

BUT WE SHOULD BE INVESTING IN VERTICAL FARMER.

IT'S A LOTTER MOTER MORE EFFICI.

>> Daryl: VERTICAL FARMING IS WHAT?

>> KIND OF LIKE INDOOR FARMING LIKE HYDROUPON HYDROPONICS.

>> WE HAVE FARMERS AND LAND AND DEMAND FOR FOOD, ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WHEN THE STATE ISSUES CONTRACTS, SO MANY FARMERS DON'T QUALIFY BECAUSE THEY DON'T PRODUCE THE SCALE.

NEED TO LOOK AT FOOD HUBS.

IF THEY AGRA GAIT GOOD, THEY CAN BIT ON CONTRACTS.

SUCH AS FOR SCHOOL LUN LUNCHES.

THEY CAN TAKE OUT LOANS GROW THEIR FARMS, UP THEIR PRODUCTION.

>> Daryl: NATHAN.

>> WE HAVE FOUR SCHOOLS IN OUR DISTRICT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SUPPORT TOWARDS SCHOOL FARMING.

SCHOOL GARDEN, EXCUSE ME.

WE CAN KIND OF BRING AND DEVELOP THIS CULTURE OF GROWING.

>> Daryl: ONE OF THE FEW THINGS IN YOUR DISTRICT IS SCHOOLS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE.

>> BY CULTIVATING THAT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO IS SUPPORT LOCAL FARMERS FINANCIALLY.

THEY NEED INSURANCE.

BECAUSE LIKE KONA LOWS WIPED OUT ALL THE SMALL TIME GROWERS.

>> Daryl: WE'VE GOT A COUPLE MINUTES LEFT.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU EACH A CHANCE TO ANSWER THIS.

I WANT SOMEONE WHO CARES ABOUT WHERE WE LIVE.

WHAT IS THE BEST THING ABOUT OUR AREA AND HOW DO YOU PROTECT AND IMPROVE THAT.

EACH ANSWER NEEDS TO BE 15 SECONDS.

WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT WHERE YOU LIVE AND WHAT WOULD YOU PIR PET WAIT THE MOST?

>> I LOVE OUR WALKABLE OUR K34R50U79 COMMUNITY IS.

MAKIKI SHOPPING CENTER.

WE'VE GOT PEPPAS.

>> Daryl: WALKABILITY AND MIXED USE.

>> Daryl: IAN ROSS.

>> POP JUMP SPACES.

LAST MASTER PLAN WAS 1999.

UPDATE THINGS.

BEYOND THAT, CREATING MORE EVENTS WHERE WE HAVE COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITIES TO COME TOTES.

TOGETHER.

MEETING AT EVENTS WITH SHARED INTEREST WOULD BE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

>> Daryl: NATHAN.

>> IT'S BEEN MY HOME SO IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION.

SO MANY LITTLE THINGS.

>> Daryl: WHAT WOULD BE -- >> FERTILIZEN ON ONE THING IS OUR GATHERING SPACE.

FOCUS ON MAKIKI DISTRICT PARK.

>> MINE IS GOING TO BE PEOPLE.

WE ARE SO DIVERSE, BUT WE'RE TRANSIENT.

WE DO HAVE PEOPLE MOSQUE IN MOVD OUT.

IT IS WALKABLE AND FOOD IS AMAZING.

MY FAVORITE IS ANTIPASTOS.

PEOPLE MAKE MAKIKI SO MUCH MORE WITH THE HISTORY THAT'S ENRICHED THIS LOCATION FOR SO LONG.

>> Daryl: I MAY HAVE RUSHED YOU ALL.

I INVITE YOU TO GIVE ME ONE MORE THOUGHT.

NATHAN, YOU CAN GO FIRST.

>> I GO TO PEPPAS ALMOST EVERY DAY.

OUR LOCAL KOREAN BARBECUE.

DELICIOUS.

>> Daryl: ALL THESE PLUGS FOR BUSINESSES.

>> THERE'S A GOOD COFFEE SHOP.

MAKANAI'S.

>> Daryl: I DON'T THINK I'VE HAD A COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF A PBS SHOW.

>> ARE YOU VIOLATING RULES HERE?

>> Daryl: I HAVE TO CHECK.

[LAUGHTER] YOUR LAST THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

>> I THINK WE HAVE A QUITE DIVERSITY OF PHYSICAL HOUSING FORMS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY.

I ENJOY GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR AND SEE HOW PEOPLE FIT, WHETHER IT'S EXPANSIVE HOMES IN TANTALUS.

>> MAHALO TO YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT - AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS, THE CANDIDATES FOR STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 26- JANEL FUJINAKA AND ARJUNA HEIM AND NATHAN CHAR AND IAN ROSS.

OUR ELECTION 2026 COVERAGE ON INSIGHTS CONTINUES NEXT WEEK AS WE MEET WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY CANDIDATES IN A WINNER-TAKE-ALL RACE FOR STATE HOUSE DISTRICT 21 WHICH INCLUDES KAIMUKI, PALOLO VALLEY, AND ST.

LOUIS HEIGHTS ON THE ISLAND OF OAHU.

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES WILL BE HERE FOR JULY.

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