>> HAWAI'I HAS HAD TWO REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS SINCE STATEHOOD.

WITH NO INCUMBENT RUNNING AND WELL-KNOWN CANDIDATES RUNNING ON BOTH SIDES, WILL 2022 BE THE YEAR A THIRD REPUBLICAN GAINS THE STATE POLITICAL OFFICE?

TEN GOP CANDIDATES WILL BE ON THE BALLOT.

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII START NOW.

∂∂ ∂∂ >> Yunji: ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I...I'M YUNJI DE NIES.

THE STATE OF HAWAI'I WILL ELECT ITS NINTH GOVERNOR THIS FALL AS DAVID IGE'S SECOND TERM COMES TO A CLOSE.

IN ALL, TEN REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ARE RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR AND TONIGHT WE WILL HEAR FROM SEVERAL OF THEM AS THEY LOOK TO REPRESENT THE PARTY ON NOVEMBER'S BALLOT.

WILL 2022 BE THE YEAR HAWAI'I'S THIRD REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR GETS ELECTED?

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL US OR CALL US WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

OUR GUESTS TONIGHT WILL BE JOINING US VIA ZOOM.

KELINE KAHAU WAS BORN AND RAISED IN NANAKULI AND IS THE MOTHER TO TEN CHILDREN AND STEP-CHILDREN.

SHE WORKS AS A FEDERAL-POSTAL JUDGE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNIVERSAL POSTAL UNION.

GARY CORDERY IS AN ENTREPRENEUR AND A BUSINESSMAN.

HE STARTED KINGDOM BUILDERS IN 1998.

IN 2020 HE FOUNDED THE ALOHA FREEDOM COALITION WHICH ADVOCATES FOR PERSONAL FREEDOMS AND GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY.

LYNN MARIANO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN KALIHI-PALAMA.

HE RETIRED FROM THE ARMY IN 1995 WITH TWO BRONZE STARS.

HE SERVED AS THE US INDO-PACIFIC COMMAND PROGRAM MANAGER AND OWNS A FINANCIAL PLANNING BUSINESS.

PAUL MORGAN STARTED HIS OWN BUSINESS CONSULTING COMPANY IN 2020 AFTER MANY YEARS AS AN INDEPENDENT INSURANCE BROKER.

THIS KAILUA-KONA RESIDENT WAS A RUNNING BACK AT VANDERBILT UNIVERSITY IN TENNESSEE WHERE HE GRADUATED IN 1998.

BJ PENN, DUKE AIONA AND HEIDI TSUNEYOSHI DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE.

ALSO ON THE BALLOT ARE GEORGE HAWAT, MOSES PASKOWITZ AND WALTER WOODS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

WE HAVE PLENTY TO GET TO.

MR. MARIANO, I WANT TO START WITH YOU AND THE ISSUE OF HOUSING.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE GOVERNOR CAN DO TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF HOUSING IN OUR STATE, AND WHAT SPECIFICALLY WOULD YOU DO TO ALLEVIATE THIS ISSUE?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

[AUDIO DIFFICULTIES] [INDISTINCT] IT'S AN ONGOING PROBLEM.

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, HOUSING WAS -- [INDISTINCT] SO WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD CHANGE THE -- [INDISTINCT] AND MAKE IT MORE USER-FRIENDLY.

SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS -- [INDISTINCT] TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING REALLY IS FOR LOW INCOME.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS -- [INDISTINCT] THOSE MAKING $100,000 UP TO $150,000.

I SAT ON THE ALA MOANA-KAKAAKO NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

THE STATE HAS LOTS OF LAND [INDISTINCT] WE -- AS GOVERNOR I WOULD TAP INTO THAT.

GET SOME OF THE STATE LANDS AND EXPAND THAT.

[INDISTINCT] THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS TO DO.

A LOT OF PROBLEMS.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THIS ISSUE?

[AUDIO DIFFICULTIES] [INDISTINCT] BRING IN THE RESOURCES FROM THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO -- SB 2583.

AS FAR AS THE ADMINISTRATION, WORK WITH SCHOOL, CHURCHES, ASSOCIATIONS.

WE TAKE THE TEACHERS UNION.

[INDISTINCT] LET'S HOPE WE CAN HELP THE TEACHERS.

[INDISTINCT] AND FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES SO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING FROM LOCAL -- [INDISTINCT] TO HAVE SUPPORT.

THE NEED FROM FARMING THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP PEOPLE.

THE SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES UTILIZING THE RESOURCES WE HAVE.

[INDISTINCT] THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE PEOPLE OF HAWAI'I.

>> Yunji: MS. KAHAU, HOW CAN THE GOVERNOR HELP ALLEVIATE THE HOUSING CRISIS WE'RE IN?

>> THE LAND IS THERE, AND IT'S OPEN.

THE ACT IS A CONTRACT THAT HURTS THE FINANCIAL STABILITY.

IT'S THE IMPORTS.

AS CONTRACTORS, WE CAN GET THE CONTRACTORS THERE.

THE LAND IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE -- THE CONTRACT IS ON THE LAND.

AND IT'S THE FOREIGN INVESTORS.

WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE FOREIGN INVESTORS BUYING THE LAND.

SO PEOPLE OF HAWAI'I CAN HAVE THESE LAND THAT ARE OPEN SO THAT WE CAN BUILD.

AND WHY DO I BRING UP THE JONES ACT?

BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE IT HURTS THE ECONOMY.

IT HURTS THE BUSINESS PEOPLE.

HURTS THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BUY THE HOUSE OR EVEN RENT A HOME.

SO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

DO SOMETHING.

BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, YOU GOT TO GET THIS OUT.

AS FAR AS THE TEACHERS ARE CONCERNED, OUR CONTRACTORS THAT COME IN TO BUILD THE HOMES, THE FAMILIES, IT DOESN'T HURT ANY.

WE NEED THE SUPPORT OF THE UNIONS.

IT WILL OPEN UP MORE JOBS, AND IT WILL MAKE HAWAI'I A PORT WHERE WE CAN BE SUSTAINABLE.

WE CAN DO THE FARMING.

WE CAN HAVE MORE BUSINESSES, AND WE CAN HAVE MORE JOBS.

AND WE ALSO WILL MAKE HAWAI'I A PACIFIC HUB.

SO AS FAR AS THE LAND IS CONCERNED, IT'S THERE.

THE GOVERNMENT NOW, IT DOESN'T SUPPORT THE HAWAI'I PEOPLE.

IT ONLY SUPPORTS PEOPLE THAT ARE [INDISTINCT] -- FOREIGN INVESTMENTS, NO ONE CAN UTILIZE IT, AND THEY BRING IN FOREIGN INVESTORS, FOREIGN CONTRACTORS, ALL OF THESE FOREIGN PEOPLE, WHICH DOESN'T HELP HAWAI'I'S ECONOMY.

>> Yunji: I WANT TO GET TO ANOTHER QUESTION, AND MR. CORDERY, I'LL STARTER WITH YOU.

HOUSING ASIDE, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING OUR STATE RIGHT NOW?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE?

WHETHER IT BE HOUSING OR HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION, COST OF LIVING.

ALL THESE ARE IMPORTANT.

WHY IS IT YEAR OVER YEAR?

THE ISSUE THAT FACES HAWAI'I THE MOST IS CORRUPTION.

POLITICIANS CANNOT MAKE DECISIONS.

CANNOT APPOINT PEOPLE TO POSITIONS THAT WILL BRING POLICIES TO ADDRESS ALL THESE ISSUES.

[INDISTINCT] WHAT YOU SEE IS YOU SEE PEOPLE [INDISTINCT] -- FROM AGENCY TO AGENCY.

YOU NEVER HAVE SOMEONE SAY DO THIS.

TOO MANY HANDS IN THE COOKIE JAR.

TO THINK CLEARLY AND ENGAGE NEW IDEAS AND BRING NEW THINGS INTO THE MARKETPLACE AND SOLVE PROBLEMS.

USE WISDOM.

LOOK AROUND.

SEE WHAT'S WORKING IN OTHER MUNICIPALS, OTHER STATES AND BRING THAT HERE TO HAWAI'I.

BRING IN NEW PEOPLE AND NEW IDEAS AND NEW INFORMATION INTO THE MARKETPLACE.

SOMETIMES IT THREATENS REVENUE STREAMS.

PEOPLE LIKE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE.

CHANGE IS REQUIRED.

ALL WE'RE SEEING IS DECADES OF THE SAME.

WE'RE AT A TIPPING POINT.

IF WE DEAL WITH CORRUPTION, IF WE DEAL WITH IT FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, YOU CAN BEGIN TO ADDRESS CORRUPTION.

THEY CAN -- SO YOU HAVE NO -- [INAUDIBLE] SO I THINK IF WE CAN ADDRESS CORRUPTION, WE CAN ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

FROM A STRUCTURAL CONSIDERATION, I THINK CORRUPTION IS NUMBER ONE.

>> Yunji: MR. MARIANO, DO YOU AGREE, OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD IDENTIFY?

>> CORRUPTION IS ONE OF THE MAJOR FACTORS.

I THINK MS. KAHAU, THE JONES ACT [INAUDIBLE] BUT THERE'S A PLETHORA OF THINGS GOING ON.

THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I'VE SEEN IS IN THE PAST, THEY REALLY HAVE NO PLAN.

THEY'RE PLACATING TO SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS.

YOU CAN SEE THEM EVERY YEAR THAT THEY'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

OR EVERY OTHER YEAR.

SAME OLD, SAME OLD.

[INDISTINCT] SO CORRUPTION IS ONE.

BUT THE REAL BIG ISSUE IS AFFORDABILITY.

SECOND, HAWAI'I NEEDS TO BE SUSTAINABLE.

WE NEED TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT.

WE HAVE HURRICANES.

WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISASTER.

I HAVE OVER 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

SO WHEN YOU CAN HAVE A PLAN, YOU CAN HAVE OPTIONS.

AND SO I PLAN ON WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS.

START WITH ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITIES.

AND DO AN ANALYSIS.

FINDING OUT WHAT ARE THE ISSUES CONCERNING THEM.

I NEED MORE HELP, AND I DO THAT.

MY EXPERIENCE WITH WORKING WITH GOVERNMENT.

[INDISTINCT] ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE DONE IS WE HAVE ISSUES HERE.

I HAVE A PLAN.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.

>> Yunji: WE HAVE THE QUESTIONS FLOWING IN.

I WANT TO GET TO THESE ISSUES.

LET'S HEAR FROM THE TWO OTHERS.

MS. KAHAU, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

WHAT'S THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING OUR STATE?

>> I'M GOING TO BE WITHIN -- THESE OFFICIALS HAVE NO PLAN.

YOU KNOW, IT IS CORRUPTION, BUT THEIR PLAN IS TO BE CORRUPT AND NOT TO HELP THE PEOPLE.

YOU CAN BE A LEADER AND SERVE THE PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN.

AND WHEN YOU STEP INTO THIS POSITION, IT IS TO NOT JUST SERVE, BUT IT'S TO FIX WHAT HAS BEEN BROKEN ALL THESE YEARS.

YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

AND I THINK WE'RE SUFFERING.

A LOT OF SUFFERING, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF CORRUPTION.

FOR THE PEOPLE TO GET INFORMATION AND TO GO UP AGAINST OFFICIALS IN THE OFFICIAL.

BUT TO HOLD THEM REALLY ACCOUNTABLE.

AND HAWAI'I HAS NOT ADOPTED THAT.

ALL THE OTHER STATES HAVE DONE THAT.

AND WHY HASN'T HAWAI'I DONE IT?

I HAVE NO CLUE.

I WAS ONE OF THEM THAT WENT UP AGAINST OFFICIALS, AND I DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE.

I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE BUT JUST GET A SLAP ON THE HAND.

NOT HAVING A PLAN.

I ALWAYS HAD THIS PLAN.

I SHARED MY PLAN.

AND EVERYONE WALKED AWAY FROM IT.

BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE.

EVERYTHING IS FOR THE PEOPLE.

NOT MYSELF OR MY FAMILY, IT'S FOR EVERYONE IN HAWAI'I.

YES, CORRUPTION AND HAVING A PLAN.

AND SPEARHEADING THAT PLAN NEEDS TO BE A MAJOR KEY.

HAVING PEOPLE THAT ALSO WANT TO FIX THE CORRUPTION AND MAKE SURE -- >> Yunji: LET'S GET YOUR TAKE ON WHAT YOU THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE FACING OUR STATE.

>> CORRUPTION IS A TREMENDOUS PART.

THERE'S A SIMPLE FIX TO IT.

SIMPLY HAVING INTERVIEWS WITH CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, -- DOWN TO EMPLOYEES TO -- [INDISTINCT] IT'S SIMPLY NOT KNOWING THE TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE IN THE STATE.

AND BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THE RESOURCES OF THE SCHOOLS, PARTNERING WITH NONPROFITS AND AVAILABLE PROGRAMS FOR SCHOOLS.

TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST PARENTS.

KIDS ARE IN A SAFE PLACE.

APPLY THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THE STATE.

IT BENEFITS ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF HAWAI'I.

CORRUPTION IS UP THERE.

SIMPLE FIX IS INTERVIEW EMPLOYEES.

[INDISTINCT] KNOWING THAT OUR EMPLOYEES -- [INDISTINCT] BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE PROCEDURES.

WHAT WILL BE THE BEST PRACTICES.

>> Yunji: OKAY.

I WANT TO GET TO SOME OF THE VIEWER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU TO THOSE WRITING IN AND CALLING OUR HOTLINE.

TWO RECENT SUPREME COURT ISSUES.

ONE QUESTION IS ABOUT GUNS AND THE OTHER IS ABOUT ABORTION.

SUSAN IS ASKING, WHAT IS EACH CANDIDATE'S POSITION ON ABORTION RIGHTS?

MS. KAHAU, LET'S START WITH YOU.

>> YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE ANYBODY TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD DO WITH MY BODY.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYBODY BE TOLD WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR BODY.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF CERTAIN THINGS LIKE -- AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

IN MY FOURTH PREGNANCY, THE DOCTOR WANTED TO ABORT MY CHILD.

NO, I'M NOT GOING TO.

THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE I WAS I'M SICK.

I DIDN'T WANT TO.

WE NEED TO STILL HAVE CHOICES SO WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT CONSTITUTION AND LAW AND PEOPLE'S RIGHT AND THEN SAY, ABORTION IS OKAY.

OR YOU CANNOT HAVE AN ABORTION OR CAN.

WE NEED TO HAVE A BALANCE.

I STILL BELIEVE THAT WHETHER IT WAS CONSENSUAL, RAPE OR INCEST, I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AN AVENUE FOR WOMEN AND EVEN MEN TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THEIR WORTH IS.

UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS.

IF A WOMAN WAS RAPED, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME AVENUE TO HELP THEM.

EVEN SAYING THAT -- TO HAVE AN ABORTION BECAUSE YOU'RE SICKLY, DIFFERENT STORY.

BUT IF A WOMAN WANTS TO HAVE IT -- [INDISTINCT] OR EVEN IF IT'S FINANCIALLY, WE NEED TO CREATE A PATH TO HELP THAT WOMAN OR THOSE PARENTS.

MAYBE IT'S COUPLES.

WE DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION.

EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT.

WE STILL NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE TO PROVIDE FOR THEM.

NOT EVERYBODY THINKS THE SAME AS I DO.

NOT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE -- [INDISTINCT] EVEN GOD, AS A CHRISTIAN, WE STILL HAVE CHOICES.

THOSE CHOICES IS NOT FOR US TO JUDGE.

IT'S NOT FOR US TO SAY, YOU CANNOT DO THAT OR YOU CAN.

IT'S FOR US TO -- SO OTHERS CAN.

I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE TELLING ME WHAT I CAN OR CAN'T.

>> Yunji: MR. MORGAN, WHAT DO YOU SAY?

YOUR POSITION ON ABORTION RIGHTS?

>> I'M PRO LIFE MYSELF.

[INDISTINCT] I THANK GOD SHE DIDN'T ABORT ME.

I LOVE MY LIFE.

FROM A PERSPECTIVE FROM WORKING WITH CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES AND PRISON.

TO WORK WITH KIDS AND HELP THEM WITH FUTURE DECISION.

THAT'S A RESPONSIBILITY I BELIEVE IS OF THE COMMUNITY.

KNOWING THE TWO EXTREMES OF IT.

HAVING RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE A PLAN B OPTION.

AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL LIFE AND HEARTBEAT OF A CHILD, THAT'S WHEN I TOTALLY AGREE WITH IT.

SO KNOWING THAT -- [INDISTINCT] WE NEED TO ASSIST PEOPLE IN THE EVENT THAT AN UNLIKELY PHYSICIAN OR PERSON IS PERFORMING SOME SERVICES ON PEOPLE THAT'S NOT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST.

TO HAVE POLICY IN PLACE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED RESOURCES.

I'M PRO LIFE.

>> Yunji: I WANT TO ALERT THE VIEWERS.

WE'RE HAVING AUDIO PROBLEMS.

IF YOU'RE HAVING AUDIO PROBLEMS, THE LIVESTREAM IS FINE ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE OR ON OUR WEBSITE.

YOU CAN ALWAYS WATCH IT THERE.

MR. MARIANO, I WANT TO GO TO YOU ON THIS.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO SUSAN?

YOUR POSITION ON ABORTION?

>> SUSAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

I'M PRO LIFE AS WELL.

MY CATHOLIC UPBRINGING AND CHRISTIAN.

I'M PRO LIFE.

BUT HAWAI'I HAS ONE OF THE STRICTEST ABORTION LAWS ON THE BOOKS.

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN IN 1973 AND PUT THAT ON THE BOOKS.

ALSO SUPPORTING AND DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION OF HAWAI'I.

WITH THAT, I HAVE MY PERSONAL BELIEFS.

PRO LIFE AND THE SANCTITY OF LIFE.

FROM INCEPTION TO DEATH.

I WILL WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE AS GOVERNOR TO TRY TO MODIFY OR CHANGE THE LAWS TO MAKE IT MORE PRO LIFE.

TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR WOMEN AND MEN TO GET SPIRITUAL COUNSELING, GUIDANCE COUNSELING.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD ARE DOING AND ENFORCE THAT.

WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACIFIC.

WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURIES TO DRIVE ACROSS STATE LINES OR ACROSS COUNTIES.

WOMEN THAT HAVE A NEED OR ABORTION.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE COAT HANGER ABORTIONS IN THE BACKYARD OR SOMETHING NOT SAFE.

AS GOVERNOR, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE WITH IT, WE NEED TO CHANGE THE LAW BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CHOICE THAT'S FINALLY MADE, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE CARRIED OUT IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY -- >> I DON'T -- IF I LET THE WOMAN THAT'S IN DANGER SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY TO TRY TO GO ACROSS TO GET AN ABORTION.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS TONIGHT?

>> THANK YOU.

I THINK IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

IT CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF SHOCK IN OUR NATION.

I DON'T BELIEVE THE QUESTION IS CHOICE.

I BELIEVE THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS LIFE?

IT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO MY GRANDSON WAS BORN.

HE WAS 2.2 POUNDS.

I LOOKED AT THAT LITTLE YOUNG BOY AND THOUGHT, MY GOSH, LIFE IS SO PRECIOUS.

I'LL NEVER FORGET THOSE MOMENTS.

I THINK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO POSSIBLY HAVE AN ABORTION AND DECIDE WHO DECIDES WHO IS LIFE?

DOES MAN DECIDE WHAT IS LIFE OR GOD?

I'M NOT CONFUSED.

GOD CHOOSES AND MAKES LIFE.

AS A SOCIETY, WE SHOULD BE ACTUALLY SUPPORT THROUGH GOVERNMENT LIFE.

WE SHOULD BE TEACHING KIDS IN SCHOOL.

WE SHOULD BE PROMOTING ADOPTION.

MY WIFE WAS ADOPTED.

SHOULD NOT COST $30,000 TO HAVE AN ADOPTION IN HAWAI'I.

IT SHOULD BE NEARLY FREE.

IT SHOULD BE A GIFT.

FOR LIFE.

THE PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE AND CONSEQUENCES, I TALKED TO A NUMBER OF WOMEN WHO NEVER GOT OVER IT.

EVEN IN THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THEY CANNOT TAKE BACK.

ALSO ENOUGH FOR A YOUNG WOMAN WHO GOES THROUGH, THEY NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

GETTING A YOUNG WOMAN PREGNANT.

IF ABORTION IS LEGAL IN HAWAI'I, THAT'S THE LAW.

FIRST RESPONSIBILITY IS TO UPHOLD THE LAW.

IF IN FRONT OF US, PEOPLE OF HAWAI'I SPEAK AND DECIDE ABORTION SHOULD BE OUTLAWED, I WILL SIGN THAT LEGISLATION.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT GOD CHOOSES LIFE, NOT MEN.

>> Yunji: LET'S GET TO THAT OTHER SUPREME COURT RULING THAT COULD MEAN BIG CHANGES TO HAWAI'I'S RESTRICTIVE GUN LAW.

MERCY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON OPEN CARRY?

MR. MORGAN, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

>> WITHIN THE CONSTITUTION, I'M PRO CONSTITUTION, PRO SECOND AMENDMENT.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, THAT'S ONE OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT WITH LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.

LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE NOT THE ONES WHO ARE BREAKING THE LAWS, IF THAT MAKES ANY KIND OF SENSE.

IT'S CRIMINALS AND REFORM THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH SUPPORTING OUR PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS TO CORRECTION OFFICERS TO POLICE SO WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND FACILITIES IN PLACE TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO BREAK THE LAWS.

AS FAR AS AGAIN SECOND AMENDMENT, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.

THAT'S ONE OF OUR RIGHTS, SO BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.

AND AGAIN, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS DO NOT BREAK THE LAWS.

SO SUPPORTING THESE EFFORTS, I'M FOR IT.

PUTTING THE RESOURCES IN PLACE FOR PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS, THE PRISON SYSTEM, CORRECTION OFFICERS TO THE POLICE, SUPPORTING THEM WHEN PEOPLE BREAK THE LAWS IS WHERE THE EMPHASIS SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY, WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON OPEN CARRY?

HAWAI'I DOESN'T HAVE IT BUT IT COULD CHANGE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I BELIEVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS CODIFIED IN THE CONSTITUTION.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS WHO DON'T HAVE A HISTORY OF GUN VIOLENCE.

IT'S NOT A NEW LAW.

IT AFFIRMS THE EXISTING RIGHTS FOR PEOPLE TO BEAR ARMS.

WHEN YOU START TO CREATE THE CONSTITUTION, IT DOES NOT SERVE THE LIBERTY FOR THE PEOPLE.

I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

>> Yunji: MS. KAHAU, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO MERCY TONIGHT?

>> I SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION.

BUT WE IN HAWAI'I, AND SOME OF THIS PEOPLE IN HAWAI'I, THEY TRIGGER HAPPY.

SO WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL WITH CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE PASS.

I ONLY SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE OPEN CARRY HERE, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE GUNS AND HAVE SHOT PEOPLE, AND THEIR GUNS ARE ILLEGAL.

BUT THEY JUST SHOOT GUNS.

SO WE GOT -- WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND BE MINDFUL.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

I WANT THAT.

BUT WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS BUT AREN'T MINDFUL.

I DO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION AS TO OPEN CARRY.

WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW WE PUT IT PERSPECTIVE OF LAW.

I DO SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION, YES.

>> Yunji: AND, MR. MARIANO, WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON OPEN CARRY AND THE RECENT RULING BY THE SUPREME COURT WHEN IT COMES TO GUNS?

>> YES, I ALSO SUPPORT THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND OPEN AND CONCEAL CARRY.

THROUGHOUT THE MILITARY, I'VE CARRIED, OPEN CARRIED BUT ALSO CONCEALED CARRY.

FOR SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF, GOT TO TRAIN IN THAT.

YOU TRAIN EVERY YEAR.

YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT IS THE QUALIFICATION.

GO THROUGH SOME EDUCATION.

AND CHAIN OF COMMAND HELPS ENFORCE SAFE MECHANISM AS FAR AS USING WEAPONS.

WE CAN DO THAT HERE IN THE STATE OF HAWAI'I.

THAT'S PART OF EDUCATION.

PAUL, GARY AND KAHAU MENTIONED IT.

WE ALL SUPPORT THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

AS GOVERNOR, WE NEED TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING.

WE HAVE TO BE AWARE WHAT'S HAPPENING INTERNATIONALLY AS WELL.

OUR BORDER SECURITY NEED TO BE UPHOLDED.

WE HAVE OUR MILITARY ON OAHU, BUT THE NEIGHBOR ISLANDS AS WELL, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT OR RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES UNDER THE SECOND AMENDMENT.

HAVING THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, OPEN CARRY OR CONCEALED, IS THAT RIGHT.

SO SHOULD THERE BE -- ON ANY OF THE NEIGHBOR ISLANDS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEFEND OURSELVES UNTIL THE NATIONAL GUARD OR MILITARY CAN HELP PROTECT THE ISLANDS.

HAVING EDUCATION.

MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE IS PROPERLY TRAINED AND ENSURING THAT ALL THE GUNS ARE REGISTERED IS A SAFE WAY AND RESPONSIBLE WAY TO DO THAT.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL GO BEYOND THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT.

LIKE WHAT PAUL SAID, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE JUDICIAL BRANCH.

SURE ENOUGH, IF SOMEONE DOES A CRIME, THEY DO THE TIME.

EVERYONE'S INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

IF YOU HAVE OPEN CARRY OR CONCEALED CARRY, DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT A CRIME.

IF AN INDIVIDUAL DOES THAT, GO THROUGH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND PUNISH THEM.

>> Yunji: WE STARTED BY TALKING ABOUT EACH OF YOUR BACKGROUND AND BIOGRAPHIES.

WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SENSE OF EACH OF YOU AND YOUR PASSIONS, AND YOU LAID OUT ISSUES YOU THINK ARE AFFECTING THE STATE.

I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR PERSONAL MOTIVATION SEEKING THE SEAT.

A LOT OF COMMITMENT.

MR. CORDERY, WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, COVID YEARS, I DO MENTION IN THE INTRODUCTION I WAS PART OF ARC.

DURING THAT SEASON, PEOPLE STARTED TELLING ME, YOU NEED TO RUN.

RUN FOR GOVERNOR.

I DISMISSED IT AS FANTASY.

I'M A CONTRACTOR.

AND I WAS PRAYING.

I BEGAN TO REALIZE COMMENTS WAS RELATED TO SOMETHING GOD WAS DOING TO MY HEART.

AFTER I CAME TO THE REALIZATION THESE WERE CONNECTED, I SAID, LORD, IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

IT'S A BIG SHIFT.

AND I SAID, HONEY, I THINK I SHOULD RUN FOR GOVERNOR.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT WAS THAT SIMPLE.

WASN'T LONG AFTER THAT, CONVERSATION OF GOVERNOR.

READING AND STUDYING AND REALIZING THE CHANGES THAT WERE POSSIBLE.

HOPE THAT WAS POSSIBLE.

IDEA TO RUN REALLY WAS BIRTH IN NUMEROUS PEOPLE TELLING ME YOU SHOULD RUN.

THEY COULD SEE MY STAND.

THEY COULD SEE THE INTEGRITY AND COMMITMENT.

THEY KNEW I WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT LIFE.

THEY KNEW I LOVED FAMILY.

THEY KNEW I LOVED HAWAI'I.

AFTER THESE COMMENTS CAME, I HAD PROFOUND EXPERIENCES.

I HAVE FOUR PROFOUND EXPERIENCES WITH THE LORD.

I FINALLY SAID, YES.

IT WAS THAT AFTERNOON THAT I MADE A SOFT DECLARATION.

AND WHEN I DID, THERE WAS FOUR, FIVE HUNDRED PEOPLE.

THEY JUMPED IN ELATION.

THEY WERE WEEPING.

IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

MANY SAID I WAS LEAVING HAWAI'I UNTIL YOU DECIDED TO RUN.

A GREAT AFFIRMATION.

WASN'T A LONG-TERM STRATEGIC POLITICAL CONVERSATION.

THAT'S THE MOTIVATION TO RUN.

>> Yunji: MS. KSHAU, WHAT'S YOUR JOURNEY TO THIS MOMENT?

>> WELL, BESIDES ME BEING CONVICTED TO MY CALLING AS WELL, FEBRUARY FOURTH WAS MY BIRTHDAY.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO LEAVE TO AUSTRALIA TO HELP AUSTRALIA'S GOVERNMENT.

I ASKED THE LORD.

I'M GOING TO AUSTRALIA.

WHAT IS MY NEXT CALLING.

IT WAS, LIKE, THREE DAYS LATER, HE WAS LIKE, HE SHOWED ME NOT TO GO.

AND I WAS CONVICTED OF STAYING.

I RAN IN 2020.

AND FOR MY DISTRICT IN PEARL CITY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTED ME TO RUN AS WELL.

I WAS, NO, I JUST WANT TO HELP ON THE SIDELINES.

DO THESE CONTRACTS, TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT GRAMMAR AND STUFF.

I USED MY JUDGESHIP.

WHEN I WAS SHOWING THE VISION TO UTILIZE MY KNOWLEDGE AND TO HELPING THE PEOPLE OF HAWAI'I IN A DIFFERENT WAY, I WAS, LIKE, I HAD TO -- THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

I'M HERE TO HELP AND SEARCH THE PEOPLE OF HAWAI'I.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M CONVICTED TO MY CALLING.

THANK YOU.

>> Yunji: MR. MORGAN, WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR?

>> IT'S ABOUT DOING MY BEST AND BEING A PART OF A CATALYST FOR CHANGE IN HAWAI'I.

WITH MY EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION, FROM WORKING IN GOVERNMENT SERVICES TO BEING A GOVERNMENT CONTRACTOR.

THE VOLUNTEER SIDE OF BEING A BOARD MEMBER OF NOW THE LARGEST COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER IN THE STATE AND SEEING THE IMPACT OF COACHING HIGH SCHOOL KIDS OR OFFICIATING.

THINGS HAVE RUN A CERTAIN WAY FOR SO MUCH TIME.

OKAY, THAT'S JUST IT.

SO CONSIDERING MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS TO THE POINT OF, WOULD YOU SUPPORT THIS EFFORT TO BE A PART OF CHANGE?

RUN AS A REPUBLICAN.

WE KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS WAS UPHILL, AND DESPITE THAT -- PEOPLE SAID YEAH, WE'LL SUPPORT YOU.

YOU'VE BEEN A LEADER FOREVER.

LIKE GARY GETTING EDUCATING ON HOW IT WORK, THE DETAILS OF IT.

AND MY BACKGROUND AS A BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT, WE KNOW THERE'S STRUCTURE IN GOVERNMENT.

WORKING WITH PEOPLE, WORKING AS TEAMS.

TO INSPIRE PEOPLE TO DO THEIR JOBS.

WE ALL KNOW, WE AGREE THAT THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN.

JUST FEELING FROM GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE OF WHICH I'VE BEEN ONE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE STATE OF HAWAI'I.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP.

HEARING FROM THE CONSTITUENTS, HEARING WHAT CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.

WE AGREE FROM TOP DOWN TO THE ISSUES ARE THE ISSUES, AND WE SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVES.

KNOWING THAT I HAVE THE SKILL SETS AND HAVE THE CHARISMA AND TEAM MINDSET AND WILLING TO WORK WITH ANYBODY, EVEN IF WE DON'T AGREE.

IT DRILLS DOWN TO THE ISSUES AND HAVING A ONE, TWO, THREE, A, B,C APPROACH WITHOUT TURNING PEOPLE'S LIVES UPSIDE DOWN.

THIS IS WHY I'M STEPPING FORWARD WITH THE SUPPORT OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

>> Yunji: MR. MARIANO, WHY ARE YOU RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR?

>> IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS.

I GREW UP IN KALIHI-PALAMA.

LIVED ON THE STREETS AT TIMES.

I LEARNED THAT YOU CAN DO MORE THROUGH LEGISLATION.

I SERVED ON THE FIRST KALIHI-PALAMA NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD THROUGH MAYOR FASI.

AND AT THE AGE OF 21, GOVERNOR ARIYOSHI APPOINT ME AS HONOLULU'S HEALTH PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

I WAS STILL GOING TO SCHOOL AT CHAMINADE AND I WENT TO UNIVERSITY OF HAWAI'I.

AND GOT MY COMMISSION IN THE U.S. ARMY.

I TRIED TO GET OUT OF THAT SO I COULD PURSUE A POLITICAL CAREER.

I WAS TOLD BY MAYOR FASI AND SENATOR MATSUNAGA AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD STAY IN THE ARMY.

TRAVEL THE WORLD.

LEARN ABOUT THE PEOPLE, CULTURE AND ECONOMIC SYSTEM.

WHEN IT'S YOUR TIME, COME HOME.

I DID THAT.

FOR 35 YEARS, I TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD.

AND WHEN I RETIRED, I DID SOME CONSULTING AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND EVERY TIME I TALKED TO GOVERNORS, LIEUTENANT GOVERNORS AND ALSO LEGISLATORS FROM OTHER STATES, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID, YOU HAVE A LEADERSHIP TRAIT, AND YOU SHOULD RUN FOR OFFICE ONE DAY.

I SAID, AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M DOING.

I'M LEARNING ON THE JOB.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAKES ME.

LOOKING AT THIS ASPECT AND PLANNING IT BECAUSE HAWAI'I IS MY HOME.

I CAME HOME, AND I'M BRINGING BACK ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE LEARNED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

AND STUDYING THE CHALLENGES WE'RE FACING HERE.

LAST SIX DECADES, SAME OLD RHETORIC.

TALK AND TALK AND TALK AND NO ACTION.

WE MOVED TO FOOTBALL.

MAYBE TWO YARDS BUT WE TAKE A FIVE-YARD PENALTY AND GO BACK TEN YARDS.

HAWAI'I NEEDS NEW LEADERSHIP.

WE NEED NEW DIRECTION.

I BRING THAT LEADERSHIP SKILL SET HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD.

I KNOW THAT WE CAN CHANGE THINGS.

WE HAVE SOME GREAT PEOPLE IN HAWAI'I.

THERE IS A PLAN TO MAKE THE CHANGE SO WE CAN MAKE HAWAI'I NOT ONLY AFFORDABLE BUT CHANGE THE DESTINY SO THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL IS NOT A FREIGHT TRAIN.

IT IS THE LIGHT OF HOPE.

SO WE CAN KIND OF MOVE FORWARD.

WE CAN PROSPER.

THAT'S WHAT I BRING.

THAT LEADERSHIP TO BUILD US AND TAKE US AWAY FROM THE TALK INTO ACTION, INTO PROSPERITY.

>> Yunji: LET'S GET TO SOME ISSUE THAT ALL OF YOU ARE REFERENCING.

THREE QUESTIONS HERE ON ONE ISSUE, HOMELESSNESS.

HILKA IN HAWAI'I ISLAND SAYS, WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR HOMELESSNESS?

SOMEONE FROM MAKAHA SAID WHAT WOULD YOU DO ABOUT CHRONIC HOMELESS AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A PORTION OF THIS.

THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY ON THE IDEA OF THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.

MS. KAHAU, LET'S START WITH YOU ON THIS.

>> OKAY.

SO WE HAVE THE HOMELESS THAT ARE -- THEY SAY THEY ARE NOT HOUSELESS.

THEY'RE LIVING ON THE BEACH.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT WANTS TO STAY THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A VAGRANCY LAW, AND IT'S NOT UTILIZED IN HAWAI'I.

WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT TO DO, HOW TO DO THINGS.

ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE MENTALLY -- SOMETHING'S WRONG MENTALLY.

WE WANT TO GET THEM HELP.

SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH THEM.

A LOT ARE VETERANS.

WE NEED TO GET OUR VETS OFF THE STREETS, AND SO THAT PLAYS IN A LOT.

FOR ME, I LIKE TO HELP THEM, AND NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO BE LIVING IN A HOUSE.

NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE ON THE BEACH EITHER, SO I DO HAVE A STEP-BROTHER WHO IS MENTALLY INCAPACITATED, BUT HE'S IN A PLACE WHERE HE'S IN A SAFE PLACE.

WHERE HE LIVES IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF HE LIVES OUTSIDE.

KIND OF LIKE WE CAN BUILD A PLACE.

WE'RE IN A TROPICAL AREA.

A LOT OF THE HOMELESS HAVE COME FROM OUT OF STATES.

WHY IS THAT?

WHY HAVE WE TAKEN IN HOMELESSNESS FROM OUTER STATES?

WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE IN HAWAI'I FIRST.

A LOT OF THE HOMELESSNESS IS FAMILIES THAT ARE WORKING FAMILIES.

CAN'T AFFORD.

THERE'S ONE OF THOSE ISSUES.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES AND DISSECT THESE ISSUES OF THESE FAMILIES THAT ARE HOMELESS, ARE WORKING FAMILIES.

ONES THAT ARE MENTAL OR SOME HAVE MENTAL ISSUES.

OR THEY DON'T HAVE SOME KIND OF SKILL SO THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.

THEY HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF INCOME THEY CANNOT PAY.

WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OUR MILITARY.

YOU KNOW, SO MANY THINGS COMPOUND AS HOMELESSNESS, BUT I FEEL FOR THEM, AND I WISH THAT OUR VAGRANCY LAW IS IMPLIED.

WE HAVE THEM.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY NEXT.

HOMELESSNESS.

HOW WOULD YOU BEST TACKLE THIS ISSUE?

>> THANK YOU.

THE WAY IT'S HANDLED NOW IS THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

THE REASON WE HAVE A STRUGGLE IS THE WAY IT'S HANDLED.

DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SEES HOMELESSNESS AS A PROBLEM.

THEY DON'T IDENTIFY WHO'S ON THE STREET AND WHY.

THEY TAKE THE HUMANITY OUT OF IT AND MAKE IT INTO A PROBLEM.

THERE'S FOUR TYPES OF PEOPLE ON THE STREET.

THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE THERE WITH BAD CIRCUMSTANCES.

MAYBE SOMEBODY LOST THEIR JOB, AND THEY FOUND THEMSELVES ON THE STREETS.

THEY NEED ASSISTANCE FROM THE STATE.

THEY NEED A HAND TO GET BACK OFF THE STREET AND INTO SOME SHELTER SCENARIO.

THERE'S PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM.

THEY'RE QUITE CAPABLE OF WORKING AND LIVE ON SOCIAL BENEFITS.

WE HAVE BENEFITS IN HAWAI'I LIKE NO OTHER.

THOSE BENEFITS NEED TO COME TO AN END.

IF A PERSON IS ABLE TO WORK, BENEFITS SHOULD BE TERMINATED.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 90, 60 DAYS.

I'M CONFIDENT THESE PEOPLE NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN SOCIETY BY WORKING.

DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS, BUT THEY HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN WORKING.

OTHERS HAVE MENTAL CONDITION OR DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, THEY NEED ASSESSMENT FROM A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL.

I'D LIKE TO SEE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAI'I MEDICAL PROGRAM ACCREDIT A COURSE WHERE THEY MAKE ASSESSMENTS FOR THESE PEOPLING.

SO THEY CAN GET OFF THE STREET AND FIND HELP.

MY FRIEND DOES THIS IN CALIFORNIA.

25% OF THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET IN CALIFORNIA STATISTICALLY SUFFERING FROM SCHIZOPHRENIA.

THIS IS A PILL.

AN ASSESSMENT AND PILL.

THESE LINES ARE CHANGED BEFORE THEIR EYES.

AND THERE'S THOSE FOLKS THAT COME HERE WITH A ONE-WAY TICKET AND A LIST OF WHERE SERVICES ARE.

THEY COMING FROM OTHER STATES.

OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL NEEDS TO SAY ENOUGH OF THIS.

THESE PEOPLE NEED TO GO BACK TO THEIR FAMILIES.

IT'S NOT THE LONG-TERM SOLUTION.

THEY NEED TO BE IN THE COMMUNITIES NEAR THEIR FAMILIES AND GET SUPPORT THERE.

IT'S A MATTER OF ASSESSMENT.

EVEN IN ALL THIS COVID TIME WHEN MONEY CAME INTO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN HAWAI'I REDUCED THE HOMELESS RESOURCES.

THIS IS UNCONSCIONABLE.

WE NEED TO FUND IT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE TARGETED FUNDS.

THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCES.

PARTLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.

THEY DON'T HAVE AN ASSESSMENT PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE NO PLAN.

WITHOUT PLAN -- THANK YOU.

>> Yunji: THE AUDIO ISSUE, MIGHT BE WITH THOSE WATCHING IN HIGH DEF.

YOU CAN SWITCH TO CHANNEL 10.

ON SPECTRUM, WATCH IN THE NON-HD AND THAT SHOULD RESOLVE ITSELF.

MR. MARIANO, LET'S GO TO YOU.

THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.

ALSO HOMELESSNESS OVERALL.

HOW DO YOU THINK THE STATE CAN BEST ADDRESS THIS?

>> AS GOVERNOR, ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL DO IS GET WITH ALL THE COUNTY MAYORS BECAUSE IT'S STATEWIDE.

GARY AND ALSO KELINE GAVE SOME POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS AS WELL.

I'M SURE MR. MORGAN WILL CHIME IN.

WE NEED TO HAVE A LONG-TERM -- DIGNIFIED LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.

WE HAVE TO STOP DOING THIS WHACK-A-MOLE SOLUTIONS.

THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR JOSH GREEN WAS APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR TO HANDLE THE HOMELESS PROBLEM.

I DON'T THINK HE DID THAT VERY WELL.

PARTICULARLY HOMELESS.

AS GOVERNOR, ONE OF THE THINGS -- THERE'S TWO TIMES.

WHEN THEY BUILD THESE HOMELESS CAMPS OR HOMELESS COMMUNITIES, WE SHOULD PROVIDE THE SUBSTANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE FOR THE STANDPOINT OF MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT LIKE A SMALL CLINIC OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE SO THEY CAN GET TREATMENT.

SOME CAMPS THAT I WENT TO VISIT, THEY'RE STUCK OUT THERE IN SAND ISLAND UNDER THE VIADUCT.

THEY'RE THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND THEN IF THEY NEED TREATMENT, THEY'LL CALL 911, GET ON A AMBULANCE AND GO TO QUEEN'S AND GET TREATMENT.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY AND DO SOME TOUGH LOVE.

WHEN TOURISTS -- WHEN THEY'RE COMING IN ON A ONE-WAY TICKET.

EVERYONE HAS TO FILL OUT THE VISITOR FORM, CORRECT?

GO BACK AND I WOULD CHANGE THAT FORM WHERE IT'S TARGETED TO THOSE WITH A ONE-WAY TICKET.

AN HOUR BEFORE, IF POSSIBLE, HAVE THE AIRLINE SEND THEM BACK TO HAWAI'I SO THEY CAN DO SOME SCREENING.

AS A TOURISTS ARE COMING OFF THE PLANE, WE CAN DO SECONDARY SCREENING.

FIND OUT IF THEY HAVE A ONE-WAY TICKET.

THEY'RE JUST HERE TO BE HOMELESS.

WE ALL KNOW THAT'S HAPPING.

KEEP THEM AT THE AIRPORT.

GIVE THEM ANOTHER ONE-WAY TICKET BACK HOME.

THE PROBLEM CAN BE SOLVED, THERE'S LAWS IN THE BOOKS THAT CAN BE ENFORCED.

WHEN I WAS ON THE ALA MOANA-KAKAAKO BOARD NUMBER 11, THERE WAS A BIG HOMELESS PROBLEM AT THE KAKAAKO PARK.

MYSELF AND ALSO SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE WENT DOWN TO THE PARK AND TALKED TO SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THERE.

WE FOUND OUT SOME HAD SUBSTANCE ABUSE.

SOME HAD MENTAL ILLNESS AND SOME ARE HARD ON HARD LUCK.

THEY HAD TO WORK TWO, THREE JOBS TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

SINCE THEY COULDN'T DO THAT, WE HELPED THEM.

MAJORITY WENT BACK TO WORK.

I WOULD PUT THEM INTO WORK AND GIVE THEM JOBS TO DO.

IF THEY'RE PANHANDLING, THEY CAN PAINT GRAFFITI.

GIVE THEM WORK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> Yunji: OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, MR. MORGAN, LET'S HEAD TO YOU ON THIS ISSUE.

>> THERE'S OVER 4800 NONPROFITS IN HAWAI'I.

NONPROFITS ARE SET UP TO HELP.

I SEE THEM BEING THE BRIDGE IN MY ADMINISTRATION.

THE RANGE OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO GET HELP VERSUS PEOPLE WHO JUST NEED THAT HANDOUT.

AND JUST KNOWING FROM TALKING WITH A NONPROFIT ON OAHU, AND THIS LADY, SHE PRETTY MUCH USES HER PERSONAL FUNDING, FINANCES TO HELP THE MEDICALLY FRAGILE.

THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION IN THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY, MEDICALLY FRAGILE, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE A SEVERE DISABILITY OR TERMINAL CANCER OR WHATEVER THAT IS.

HELPING THEM PUT THEM IN SHELTER.

FROM THE CHANGE OF THIS NONPROFIT HAVE LANDS.

THEY CAN CAMP THERE TO GET THEM TO THE POINT OF, YOU'RE IN THIS PROGRAM.

THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO CORPORATE PARTNERS WHO DECIDED TO BE A PART OF THIS.

TARGET IS ONE.

WALMART THE OTHER.

THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE JOBS PAYING $16, $18.

WALMART HAS A FREE TUITION PROGRAM.

WE HAVE THE RESOURCES IN THE STATE.

IT'S A MATTER OF MANAGING THE RESOURCES THROUGH THE NONPROFITS TO DO WHAT THEY DO BEST.

THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS SCHIZOPHRENIA FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HERE TO STAY.

WORKING WITH THE TASK FORCE OF THESE NONPROFITS.

ALL WHO HAVE THAT MISSION.

ON THAT LIST TO DO THIS TASK FORCE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES FROM ONES WHO SIMPLY CAMPING ON THE LAND TO ONES WHO NEED THE SUPPORT.

TO SUSTAIN LIVING IN HOUSEHOLDS.

>> Yunji: OKAY.

WE HAVE ABOUT HALF HOUR LEFT.

I'VE GOT A BIG STACK OF QUESTIONS.

BE A LITTLE BIT MORE BRIEF IN YOUR RESPONSE, NOT BECAUSE I'M NOT INTERESTED, BUT I WANT TO SERVE OUR AUDIENCE.

MR. MARIANO, HAWAI'I IS AN OVERWHELMINGLY BLUE STATE.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT HAWAI'I VOTERS SHOULD REACH ACROSS THE AISLE AND VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR THIS YEAR?

>> WELL, THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS THAT MAJORITY OF THE VOTERS THAT I TALK TO, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS, THEY'RE TIRED OF THE SAME OLD RHETORIC.

THEY WANT CHANGE.

THE REASON THEY VOTE DEMOCRATIC IS THERE'S NO GOOD REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

LINDA LINGLE BACK THEN.

SO I'M ENCOURAGED THAT THIS IS THE TIME NOW.

SO WHEN I PUT MY NAME IN THE HAT TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR, AND I'M TALKING TO THE VOTERS OUT THERE ON ALL THE ISLANDS, PARTICULARLY ON OAHU.

THEY'RE TELLING ME, YOU KNOW, I WILL CHANGE.

CHANGE FROM DEMOCRAT.

VOTE REPUBLICAN BECAUSE YOU ARE THE GUY THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO LEAD THE STATE.

SO YES, IT IS A BLUE STATE.

BUT WE CAN CHANGE THAT BECAUSE IF WE CONTINUE TO DO THE SAME THING AND VOTE THE SAME WAY, IT'S INSANITY.

TWO, OUR INFLATION AND OUR WAY OF LIFE IS GOING BY THE WAYSIDE.

>> Yunji: HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN THE VIEWERS WHO ARE ASKING WHY THEY SHOULD VOTE REPUBLICAN IN AN OVERWHELMINGLY BLUE STATE.

>> GREAT QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE, DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT, INDEPENDENT, THEY LONG FOR HOPE.

A NEW BEGINNING.

ALL SUFFERING THE SAME CONSEQUENCES OF BAD POLICY.

KIDS ARE MOVING.

FAMILIES ARE LEAVING.

DIFFICULT TO PAY BILLS.

THIS IS NOT A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATIC ISSUE.

THIS IS A POLICY ISSUE.

PEOPLE LONG FOR NEW IDEAS AND HOPES.

CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE FREE, AND WE CAN EXPERIENCE HOPE IN ABUNDANCE.

>> Yunji: MR. MORGAN, WHY SHOULD VOTERS REACH ACROSS THE AISLE?

>> PEOPLE WANT CHANGE.

I'M RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN BECAUSE I DID MY HOMEWORK.

ONLY REASON THE REPUBLICAN WAS STARTED WAS TO END SLAVERY.

SO YOU HAVE FREEDOM OF CHOICE AND HOW YOUR LIFE IS DETERMINED.

THAT'S THE MAIN REASON I'M RUNNING.

I AGREE WITH THOSE VALUES.

YOU'RE YOUR OWN PERSON.

WORKING TOGETHER FOR ALL OUR BEST INTERESTS AND CHANGE.

THAT'S WHY -- THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING PEOPLE SAYING.

THEY WANT CHANGE.

REPUBLICANS REPRESENT THAT CHANGE.

>> Yunji: MS. KAHAU?

>> BOTTOM LINE IS TO CHANGE EVERYTHING.

NEVER MIND THE GREEN PILL, RED PILL, BLUE PILL.

IT'S TIME TO TAKE A BETTER PILL THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING.

ENOUGH ALREADY.

VOTE KAHAU BECAUSE SHE KNOW HOW.

[LAUGHTER] >> Yunji: MR. MORGAN, YOU ARE CALLING IN FROM KAILUA-KONA ON THE BIG ISLAND OF HAWAI'I.

NEXT GOVERNOR WILL HAVE TO MANAGE THE THIRTY METER TELESCOPE.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> I OPPOSE TMT.

OVER 1400 TESTIMONY SUBMITTED.

THOSE TESTIMONY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

WHAT PROJECT SHOULD BE HALTED?

SO MANY PROJECTS IN THE STATE THAT DON'T GET THE FULL CONSIDERATION OF THE PEOPLE.

ONE IN PARTICULAR ON OAHU IS THE RAIL.

AND FEEDBACK THAT I GET FROM OAHU IS THEY FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE NEIGHBOR ISLANDS BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY TAX ON RAIL THAT THEY WILL NEVER RIDE.

IN THOSE TWO PERSPECTIVES FROM TMT TO RAIL AND OTHER PROJECTS, I THINK THAT -- THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

IT MAKES SENSE.

AND AS GOVERNOR, WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER IT.

ALWAYS THE PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVES.

>> Yunji: MS. KAHAU, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON TMT?

>> WE'VE GOT SO MANY TELESCOPES.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S A BIG TELESCOPE OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW.

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST -- WHY CAN'T THEY REMODEL THAT ONE?

IT'S STILL THERE.

IT'S USEABLE.

WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DIG SOME MORE?

JUST USE THAT.

I DON'T WANT ANOTHER BIG ONE UP THERE.

THAT ONE THAT'S ALREADY UP THERE GOES TO BIG BEN AND IRELAND.

IT CAN.

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST -- I DON'T WANT ANYMORE THINGS UP THERE.

TOO MUCH STUFF UP THERE.

REUSE WHAT WE HAVE.

I DON'T WANT NOTHING ELSE UP THERE.

THAT'S JUST IT.

STOP BUILDING ON THE LAND.

THAT'S JUST IT.

>> Yunji: MR. MARIANO, WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON TMT?

>> WELL, I'M FOR BUILDING THE TELESCOPE.

I DO KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS.

OUR ANCESTORS, WE FOLLOW THE STARS.

I KIND OF LIKE ASTRONOMY.

TMT BRINGS JOBS.

IT ALSO HELPS WITH EDUCATION.

IT ALSO HELPS WITH BUILDING AND BRIDGING THE HAWAIIAN CULTURE.

THERE'S A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATIONS.

A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS THAT'S GOING ON.

I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL DO IS BRING EVERYBODY IN, AND SIT DOWN AND HAVE A REALLY GOOD HEART-TO-HEART DISCUSSION.

THE TMT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BEING EDUCATED.

THEY PROVIDED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO OHA, TO WORK WITH THE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY AND GIVE THEM INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO LEARN ABOUT WHY THEY'RE BUILDING THE TELESCOPE AND WHY MAUNA KEA.

THE WHOLE WORLD LOOKS AT THAT.

ASTRONAUTS USE IT.

SO IT BRINGS IN A LOT OF HIGH-PAYING JOBS.

UNIVERSITY OF HAWAI'I USES IT QUITE A BIT.

WE NEED TO HAVE BETTER LEADERSHIP, BETTER MANAGEMENT.

AND WHEN WE TURN AROUND AND WE USE THAT TMT, AND THEN BRIDGE THAT.

IT CAN BUILD IN FOR THE HAWAIIAN CULTURE AS WELL.

ALL OF THESE CAN COME INTO PLAY, AND WE CAN LIVE AND WORK TOGETHER AND PROSPER IN THE FUTURE.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY, SHOULD THE TMT PROJECT MOVE FORWARD?

>> THE TMT PROJECT IS A HEARTBREAK.

THE PROBLEM -- I BELIEVE THE PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT THE GOVERNMENT BREAKS ITS PROMISE.

DISHONORED AND DISRESPECTED THE PEOPLE.

MANY BELIEVE THAT MOUNTAIN IS SACRED.

WHEN THEY INITIATED THIS PROJECT, THEY MADE PROMISES.

THEY WOULD TAKE TWO TELESCOPES DOWN AND CLEAN THE EARTH.

THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECONCILE WAS THAT MOMENT.

THEN THEY PUSHED FORWARD.

A GREAT BETRAYAL.

GOVERNOR IGE'S EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE ARRESTED.

ONCE AGAIN, BALL IS OUT OF BOUNDS.

IF THE TMT PROJECT IS TO GO FORWARD, GOVERNMENT, EVEN I, WILL STAND AND ACCOUNT TO THE PEOPLE FOR THE BROKEN PROMISES.

WE WILL SEEK THEIR FORGIVENESS.

IF THERE'S RECONCILIATION OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND FEEL THAT STRONGLY ABOUT MAUNA KEA AND DEVELOPERS AND THE GOVERNMENT AND ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND THEY CAN REACH AN AGREEMENT, IT SHOULD GO FORWARD.

I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THOSE PEOPLE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE BENEFIT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.

HAVE WE HONORED OUR CITIZENS?

UNTIL WE DO, TMT IS STUCK.

I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS.

I'M HEARTBROKEN ABOUT THE DISRESPECT.

>> Yunji: MS. KAHAU, WE HAVE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

INTERESTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS WHETHER THAT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD?

>> NO.

I'M SORRY.

YOU KNOW WHY?

BECAUSE WE NEED PEOPLE WITH CLEAR MINDS.

I DON'T NEED NOBODY DRIVING ON THE ROAD AND EATING A BROWNIE OR -- YOU KNOW, THAT'S INFUSED.

MEDICAL, YES.

RECREATIONAL, NO.

THERE IS CBD, AND CBD YOU NEED AT LEAST 3% OF THE THC OF THAT PLANT.

SO IF YOUR BODY ACHES, YOU CAN USE IT.

AND YOUR BODY DOESN'T FEEL THE HIGH.

YOU'RE NOT HIGH.

BUT NOT RECREATIONAL.

I WOULD ALLOW -- AS A GOVERNOR, I WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO GROW IT.

TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUST GO TO A DISPENSARY.

NOT RECREATIONAL BECAUSE NOBODY GOING LIKE WORK.

IF PEOPLE GOING TO WANT TO WORK, THEY'RE GOING TO BE HIGH.

WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE COMPETENT.

NOT ON TV BUT DRIVING HEAVY EQUIPMENT.

WE NEED PEOPLE CLEAR MINDED, YOU KNOW.

THAT'S JUST MY FEELINGS.

THANK YOU.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY, I SEE YOU NODDING.

WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS?

>> PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

I CAN TELL YOU, BACK WHEN I WAS 19, IT'S A GATEWAY DRUG.

MARIJUANA IS A GATEWAY DRUG.

WE CAN SUGGEST OTHERWISE, BUT THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO IT.

UNLESS IT'S MEDICAL.

MY FRIENDS HAD CANCER.

I THINK IT'S SO APPROPRIATE.

IT'S ASSISTED THEM IN THE LAST STAGES OF THEIR LIFE.

RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, NO.

I AGREE WITH KELINE.

WITH ALCOHOL, YOU TAKE A BLOOD TEST.

WHEN SOMEBODY'S HIGH FROM MARIJUANA, YOU DON'T KNOW EXPECT THEIR MINDS ARE SLOWER.

YOUR SENSES ARE RELAXES.

THIS IDEA OF PLEASURE AND MEDICATING FROM MARIJUANA, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.

>> Yunji: MR. MARIANO, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF LEGALIZING MARIJUANA FROM RECREATIONAL PURPOSES?

>> NUMBER ONE, I DON'T SMOKE MARIJUANA.

IN THE MILITARY, WE ALWAYS HAVE TRUST TESTING.

DONE ON A CONTINUAL BASIS.

BACK WHEN ALCOHOL WAS OUTLAWED, PEOPLE WERE DOING THAT.

BOOTLEGGING THOSE THINGS.

MEDICAL MARIJUANA, I AGREE IT'S NEEDED AS LONG AS IT'S REGULATED.

FOR RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, MAYBE NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT I WILL BE OPEN TO SITTING DOWN TO LISTENING TO ALL SIDES BECAUSE IT IS, AS I LOOK AT OTHER STATES THAT HAVE RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA, IT IS A BIG INDUSTRY THAT WILL BRING GOOD MONEY INTO THE ECONOMY.

ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE CAN EARMARK FUNDS TO HELP BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE FOR EDUCATION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND DOING THINGS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE CAN'T DO THAT OVERNIGHT.

IF WE PUT PROMISE AND PROCESS AND PROCEDURES, AND WHEN THE PEOPLE SPEAK AND IT GOES TO THE LEGISLATURE, IF IT MAKES SENSE AND PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, I WOULD CONSIDER IT.

IF NOT, THERE'S A THING CALLED [INAUDIBLE].

I CAN VETO THAT.

AND SEND IT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.

IT IS ANOTHER GOOD SOURCE OF REVENUE.

IT'S A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY.

WHY NOT HAVE IT SO WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER SOURCE OF INCOME RATHER THAN JUST RELYING ON THE MILITARY AND TOURIST FOR NORTH CAROLINA.

>> Yunji: MR. MORGAN, DO YOU AGREE?

THIS COULD BE A WAY TO DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMY?

>> I DO.

I'LL SUPPORT IT WITH REGULATION SIMILAR TO ALCOHOL AND SIMILAR TO CIGARETTES.

AND ALSO STUDYING THE BEST PRACTICES FROM STATES ARE GETTING IT FROM OKLAHOMA TO WASHINGTON.

AND A FEW OTHER STATES.

A SOURCE OF REVENUE TO STATE OF HAWAI'I.

WE'RE IN OVER OUR HEAD.

SO HAVING THAT AND ALSO CERTAIN PROFESSIONS WHERE YOU HAVE CHARGE OF CHILDREN OR HEAVY MACHINE EQUIPMENT OPERATIONS, FIREARMS, CERTAIN PROFESSIONS WOULD BE EXCLUDED.

AND SETTING LIMITS SIMILAR TO DUI.

TO BE ABLE TO TEST IT.

AND CERTAIN LEVELS AS WELL.

I WOULD SUPPORT IT WITH REGULATION.

SIMILAR TO ALCOHOL.

INCLUDING REVENUE INCREASE.

>> Yunji: TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.

COVID EXPOSED A LOT OF WEAKNESSES IN OUR SYSTEM.

FOOD SUSTAINABILITIES WAS ONE.

WE WERE WORRIED THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH ON THE STORE SHELVES.

JASMINE HAS THIS QUESTION.

HOW WILL YOU ADVOCATE FOR FARMERS OF HAWAI'I?

WE NEED TO GROW OUR OWN FOOD SO HOW DO WE DO THAT?

MR. CORDERY, SORRY.

>> GARY.

[LAUGHTER] >> JAN KEN PO.

>> THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.

IT REPRESENTS SOMETHING THAT'S ON EVERYBODY'S MINDS WHEN THEY GO TO THE SUPERMARKET.

I REMEMBER SEEING MEADOW GOLD DAIRY.

PRODUCERS.

NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE IN HAWAI'I'S INDUSTRY.

THEY LEFT BECAUSE OF BAD POLICY BECAUSE OF DLNR.

WHICH LAND ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PRODUCTION AND WHICH ARE NOT?

THEY BEGAN TO MAKE IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A LOCAL FARMER, A LOCAL GROWER OF PRODUCER TO HAVE A PROFITABLE BUSINESS.

GOVERNMENT HAS RESOURCES TO CREATE A MARKET.

THEY DO IT IN PART FOR SOME SCHOOLS.

BUT SCHOOLS SHOULD BE COMPLETELY HAVE LOCALLY GROWN FARMS AND DAIRIES.

WE MUST HAVE TRANSPORTATION.

SO DLNR AND DOH.

THROUGH USE OF LAND.

OWN THEIR LANDS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD AND SERVICES FERRY.

WHERE A FARMER ON OAHU CAN MOVE HIS GOOD TO THE BIG ISLAND, AND BIG ISLAND CAN BRING BEEF BACK TO OAHU, AND THEY CAN DO IT ECONOMICALLY.

CURRENTLY, IF A FARMER OR RANCHER WANTS TO BRING A PRODUCT, THEY HAVE TO USE YOUNG BROTHERS.

THERE'S NO PROFIT.

IF YOU CREATE A MARKET, YOU USE THE LAND AND USE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH REGULATION.

COMBINE THIS AND YOU'LL SEE AG MARKET BACK ON THE MARKETPLACE.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO THRIVE AND HAVE A SUSTAINABLE AG INDUSTRY IN HAWAI'I.

AND THAT'S VITAL.

WE MUST DO THAT.

THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL.

>> Yunji: MR. MORGAN, HOW DO WE CREATE SUSTAINABILITY AT HOME?

>> I WAS AT U.H.

HILO THREE WEEKS AGO.

COMING FROM THE SOUTH, I GOT TO SEE COTTON AND CORN ROTATED ON A REGULAR BASIS.

BEING ABLE TO HEAR FROM A FARMER.

AND SHE MADE THIS STATEMENT.

SHE SAID WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY MEETS THE FARMER, THEY WILL BE ALL OVER IT.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE LAND AND WHAT LAND IS HIGH IN IRON AND LOW IN IRON.

THAT'S BEEN DONE.

WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS GET WITH THE FARMERS TO FIND OUT HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THEM?

GARY MENTIONED IT.

THE AVERAGE FARMER IN HAWAI'I, MAJORITY IS 83% MAKE ONLY $25,000 A YEAR.

THEY DO NOT OWN THEIR LAND.

HAVING TO SAY WHAT THEY NEED TO GROW, FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO SAY IS, WHO'S GOING TO HELP US?

BEING ABLE TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO HAVE PROGRAMS THAT HELP THEM INCREASES, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IMMIGRANTS COMING TO HAWAI'I TO DO THIS WORK.

FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SUPPORT FARMERS AND FIND OUT WHAT BEST PRACTICES ARE IN PLACE THAT WE WITH CAN HELP THEM THROUGH TECHNOLOGY AND SUSTAINABLE WAYS TO HELP THEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START.

HELPING THE FARMERS.

>> Yunji: MR. MARIANO, YOUR RESPONSE TO JASMINE.

WHAT'S YOUR POLICY TO SUPPORT LOCAL AG?

>> I'M WITH WHAT GARY AND PAUL WAS SAYING.

WE NEED TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING.

REINVEST IN OUR FARMERS OR AGRICULTURE AND ALSO FISHING INDUSTRY.

WE NEED TO HAVE THAT.

FOOD SECURITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

COVID BROUGHT THIS UP.

WE WERE 3 WEEKS WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WAS SHUT DOWN.

WE COULDN'T HAVE WORKERS ON THE DOCKS.

EVEN THOUGH THE UNIONS WERE PUSHING GOVERNOR IGE TO OPENING PORTS TO BRING FOOD.

BECAUSE OF COVID, THEY WERE SHUT DOWN.

ANYTIME THERE'S DISASTER, YOU CAN SEE.

SHELVES ARE EMPTY.

EVERYONE KNOWS YOU HAVE TO SURVIVE.

WE NEED TO REALLY INVEST IN OUR FARMERS, RANCHERS AND ALSO FISHING INDUSTRY.

I BELIEVE IN INVESTING.

JONES ACT PLAYS A BIG ROLE.

RIGHT NOW IF YOU GO TO MY WEBSITE, HAWAI'I IS TREATED AS A TERRITORY.

WE'VE BEEN A STATE SINCE 1959.

RECOGNIZE THAT HAWAI'I IS THE 50TH STATE.

ALL IMPORTS CAN COME HERE, AND WE CAN REDUCE TAX, PARTICULARLY ON FARMS 21%.

AND REDUCE THE COST.

BRING IN COMPETITION.

OPEN THE PORTS, BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT GOES TO FARMING AND AQUIFER.

IT'S SAD THAT WE CAN'T GROW TO FEED OUR CATTLE.

WE HAVE TO IMPORT THAT.

>> Yunji: MS. KAHAU, WHAT ARE YOU THOUGHTS?

>> I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THAT 100%.

A LOT OF THE PROBLEM IS LIKE THE HAWAIIAN HOMES, THEY HAVE ISSUES LIKE MOLOKAI.

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE HAVE 20 TO 30 ACRES, BUT THEY ONLY CAN WORK ONE ACRE AT A TIME.

WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR FARMERS.

WHETHER THEY'RE HAWAIIAN HOMES OR NOT.

I'D LIKE TO BRING BACK OUR DAIRIES, OUR CATTLE INDUSTRY BECAUSE AGAIN, OUR CATTLE, ESPECIALLY OUR CATTLE ON THE BIG ISLAND, THEY GOT TO BRING IN ONE 747 WEEKLY JUST TO TAKE THEIR CATTLE BACK AND FORTH.

WHY IS CATTLE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND WE PAY DIME ON A DOLLAR.

WE GOT TO PAY MONEY BACK.

WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING HERE.

WE PUT TOO MUCH EMPHASIS ON TOURISM.

FLIP THAT SCRIPT AND PUT IT INTO FARMING AND OUR PEOPLE.

START CO-OPS.

GIVE THEM AN AVENUE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE NURTURING FOOD FOR OUR FAMILIES.

WHY SHOULD WE BUY AVOCADOS FROM MEXICO?

WE LIVE IN A TROPICAL PLACE.

WE CAN HAVE FRUITS AND VEGETABLES HERE.

IT WILL CUT DOWN A LOT OF THIS TRANSPORTATION ON THE BARGES.

ON EACH ISLAND.

>> Yunji: I WANT TO GET TO A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

BE QUICK ON THE NEXT FEW.

WE'VE GOTTEN THIS FAR AND HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT TOURISM.

MR. MORGAN, HOW DO WE MANAGE OUR TOURISM INDUSTRY?

WE GOT A BREAK DURING THE PANDEMIC.

OUR ECONOMY TOOK A MAJOR HIT.

HOW DO WE BALANCE THE NEED OF KAMA'AINA, WHILE MAKING SURE TOURISTS RESPECT WHERE THEY ARE?

>> WE'VE SAID IN OUR PLAN, PROGRAM OF SAFE TRAVELS WORK.

I HEAR OTHER CANDIDATES ARE STARTING TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

TAKING A $25 FEE FROM EVERY TOURIST THAT COMES TO HAWAI'I.

TO KNOW WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM AS VISITORS TO THE STATE OF HAWAI'I.

FROM THERE, WORKING WITH THE RESORTS, DIFFERENT HOTELS TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PASSES TO GO TO BEACHES SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT INCREASE FOOTPRINT IN SOME OF THE MOST SACRED PLACES AND LOCAL SPOTS.

TO HAVE THAT OVERRUN.

IT COMES DOWN TO EDUCATIONAL TOURISM.

FROM THE HOTEL INDUSTRY TO AIRLINES TO THE TOURISTS TO PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT'S RELATED TO TOURISM.

HAVE THAT $25 FEE THAT COMES IN.

REPURPOSED TO ASSIST HAWAI'I'S SMALL BUSINESSES IN THEIR EFFORTS TO START MANAGING GROWTH.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY, WHAT ABOUT A TOURISM TAX?

HOW DO WE BETTER BALANCE TOURISM, AND WOULD YOU SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> I THINK THE WHOLE TOURISM CONVERSATION IS ABOUT REVENUE.

THE STATE'S BECOME DEPENDENT ON TOURISTS' REVENUE.

I BELIEVE IF WE STOP PROMOTING TOURISM AND TAKE THOSE RESOURCES AND START CONTINUING AG MARKET, YOU WILL SEE A TRANSITION IN RESPONSIBILITY.

AND YOU'LL SEE REVENUE UP.

UP IN THE AG INDUSTRY AND REVENUE COME DOWN SO THERE'S BALANCE.

WHAT YOU'LL HAVE, A LOT OF TOURISM BACK.

MAYBE A 6, 7 MILLION.

IT WAS TEN MILLION BEFORE COVID.

IT WAS UNBEARABLE.

YOU COULDN'T PARK ON THE STREETS.

TAKE THOSE REVENUES, REINVEST THOSE IN LOCAL INDUSTRY.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE THIS BALANCE.

THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IF TOURISTS COME IN AND SIGN AND DONATE TO SOME FUND.

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FUND WHERE THEY RECOGNIZE THE TREASURE OF HAWAI'I.

I WILL NOT MANDATE THAT.

WE'RE ALREADY OVERTAXED TO DEATH.

THIS IS ABOUT REVENUE.

>> Yunji: MR. MARIANO, HOW DO WE BALANCE THE NEED OF THE KAMA'AINA AND VISITORS HERE IN HAWAI'I?

>> IT'S A COMBINATION OF THAT.

WE NEED TO KIND OF PHASE IN THE APPROACH.

WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TOURISTS EVERY YEAR.

WE CAN'T DO IT OVERNIGHT.

FLIP THAT SWITCH.

I DON'T AGREE WITH ADDING AN ADDITIONAL TAX.

HAVING THAT COME ON BEFORE THEY COME IN.

ADDITIONAL TAX.

THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE THEM AWAY.

TAXES ARE SO HIGH ON A TOURIST THAT THEY'RE NOT STAYING IN WAIKIKI.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AIRBNB'S AND THEY'RE GOING TO OTHER PLACES ON THE ISLANDS AND NOT STAYING IN WAIKIKI.

WAIKIKI IS STARTING TO HURT.

THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY, LET'S ADD THESE OTHER TAXES.

IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, IN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, TOURISTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE COMING TO HAWAI'I.

THEY ARE GOING TO GO ELSEWHERE.

AIRLINES, RENTAL CARS, IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE.

WE NEED TO REGULATE IT.

NEEDS TO BE A PHASED APPROACH, COMMON-SENSE SOLUTION AND A LEADER THAT CAN GUIDE THAT PROCESS SO WE CAN ENJOY THE ISLANDS LIKE THE LOCALS.

>> Yunji: MS. KAHAU, I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS.

HOW DO WE BETTER BALANCE TOURISM?

>> I AGREE WITH LYNN.

IT NEEDS TO BE A PHASED APPROACH.

WE NEED TO INCREASE THE JOBS AND INCOMES.

IF THE NEXT PANDEMIC COMES, WE NEED TO HAVE A SOURCE OF INCOME HERE.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO HAVING, YOU KNOW, LIKE CANNING.

WE WANT TO BE SELF-SUSTAINABLE WITH FOOD.

MAYBE BRING BACK CANNING COMPANIES AND PAY GOOD MONEY SO WE CAN BE OUR OWN HUB IN THE PACIFIC ISLANDS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT SO MUCH EMPHASIS ON THE TOURISM INDUSTRY.

TOURISM CAN COME IN BUT NOT AS HARSH AND FAST.

I DON'T AGREE WITH THE TAXES, BUT I ALSO DON'T AGREE WITH TOO MUCH TOURISM COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME.

I KIND OF LIKED IT WHEN WAIKIKI WAS EMPTY.

GOT TO FLUSH OUT ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, OPALA IN THE WATER.

IT WAS KIND OF NICE.

>> Yunji: OUR QUESTION, I ASK THAT YOU ANSWER THIS IN UNDER A MINUTE, WHICH IS A CHALLENGE.

I KNOW YOU'RE UP TO IT.

WHAT'S A PERSONAL CHALLENGE IN YOUR OWN LIFE THAT YOU HAD TO OVERCOME THAT PREPARED YOU FOR THIS MOMENT AND OFFICE?

MR. MARIANO?

>> MY PERSONAL CHALLENGE IS THE COMPASSION THAT I HAVE FOR THIS ISLAND.

I LOVE THIS ISLAND SO MUCH.

THIS IS MY HOME.

HAVING A HARD TIME SEE IT CHANGE SO IT GETS TO THE POINT THAT IF I DID NOT HAVE MY RETIREMENT PENSION, I MAY NOT BE LIVING HERE.

I WOULD HAVE TO MOVE OUT.

MY WHOLE THING IS GETTING COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE.

WHEN I LEFT THE ISLANDS, ISLANDS DIDN'T LEAVE ME.

>> MR. MORGAN, SOMETHING YOU'VE OVERCOME THAT'S PREPARED YOU FOR THIS MOMENT.

>> I'LL GO BACK TO HOW I WAS RAISED.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE 49TH TO 50TH STATE.

FROM EDUCATION TO HEART DISEASE.

HAVING THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY ENCOURAGED ME TO DO BETTER.

HAVING THE SUPPORT OF TEACHERS AND COACHES THAT MENTORED.

RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN THE STATE OF HAWAI'I, SOME MAY CALL ME THE OUTSIDER.

OTHERS SAY NO, YOU'RE ONE OF US.

YOU LOVE THE LAND AND PEOPLE.

YOU ARE HERE FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.

CONSIDER THAT PERSPECTIVE AND BEING ABLE TO PIVOT SO IT'S ABOUT MEETING PEOPLE, HEARING THEIR CONCERNS AND HAVING COMMON-SENSE SOLUTION.

>> Yunji: MR. CORDERY, SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE OVERCOME THAT PREPARED YOU FOR THIS MOMENT?

>> I'M 62.

WHEN YOU'VE LIVED A LIFE FOR A SEASON, YOU'VE OVERCOME ALL TYPES OF CHALLENGES.

WHETHER IT'S YOUR FAMILY, IN RELATIONSHIPS, HOW TO RECONCILE RELATIONSHIPS.

HOW TO STAND RESPONSIBLE.

HOW TO KEEP A PROMISE.

HOW TO FOCUS ON A VISION AND KEEP THE COMMITMENT.

THESE ARE CHALLENGES THAT FACE PEOPLE DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

THEY DON'T REALIZE THE POWER OF GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN.

WISDOM, GAINING WISDOM.

BETRAYAL.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> Yunji: MS. KAHAU, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD TONIGHT.

>> DEALING WITH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND HELPING THE PEOPLE WITH THEIR FORECLOSURES.

I'M NOT 62 BUT I'M 49.

BUT I'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT.

AND IT'S HELPED ME GET THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I GAINED A LOT OF WISDOM TO JUST THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

I THINK OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AS A POWERHOUSE.

IT'S BROKEN, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

THAT'S WHAT HELPED ME GET THROUGH THIS BECAUSE -- >> Yunji: WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS, REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR: PAUL MORGAN, LYNN MARIANO, GARY CORDERY AND KELINE KAHAU.

NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS WE HAVE TWO RACES.

WE WILL TALK WITH CANDIDATES IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES FOR STATE SENATE DISTRICT 1 WHICH COVERS THE HILO AREA ON HAWAI'I ISLAND AND STATE SENATE DISTRICT 19 WHICH COVERS PARTS OF PEARL CITY, WAIPAHU, AND 'EWA BEACH.

I'M YUNJI DE NIES FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I, ALOHA!