THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS IS TASKED WITH GETTING NATIVE HAWAIIANS ONTO HOMESTEAD LOTS.

THE EFFORT IS SLOW, WITH SOME 29,000 BENEFICIARIES ON THE WAIT LIST.

THE DEPARTMENT RECEIVED AN HISTORIC $600 MILLION IN STATE MONIES THREE YEARS AGO, AND ASKED FOR ANOTHER $600 MILLION THIS YEAR, BUT WAS DENIED BY THE LEGISLATURE.

WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS.

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI'I START NOW.

♪ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

I'M LAUREN DAY.

IN 1921, PRESIDENT WARREN G. HARDING SIGNED THE HAWAIIAN HOMES COMMISSION ACT.

IT SET ASIDE 200,000 ACRES ACROSS THE STATE, TO RETURN NATIVE HAWAIIANS TO THE LAND WHILE ENCOURAGING THEM TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT HOMESTEADERS.

THIS EFFORT WAS SPEARHEADED BY PRINCE KUHIO.

PARCELS ARE GRANTED BY THE STATE-RUN DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS.

TO QUALIFY FOR A LEASE, YOU MUST HAVE A BLOOD QUANTUM OF AT LEAST 50% HAWAIIAN, BUT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN PAINSTAKINGLY SLOW WITH BENEFICIARIES WAITING DECADES, SOME EVEN DYING, ON THE WAIT LIST.

THE DEPARTMENT REQUESTED 600-MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR TO HELP SPEED UP NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

THAT NUMBER WAS SLASHED TO 50-MILLION AND AT THE END OF THE SESSION, DHHL RECEIVED 20-MILLION FOR REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.

TONIGHT, OUR PANEL WILL DISCUSS HOW THE DEPARTMENT MOVES FORWARD.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOU'LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII YOUTUBE PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

KALANI FRONDA IS THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS ACTING LAND DEVELOPMENT DIVISION ADMINISTRATOR.

HE OVERSEES THE PLANNING, DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION OF RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL, AND PASTORAL PROJECTS STATEWIDE.

STATE SENATOR SAMANTHA DECORTE IS THE MINORITY FLOOR LEADER AND IS A MEMBER OF THE HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.

SHE WAS FIRST ELECTED TO OFFICE IN 2024 AND REPRESENTS DISTRICT 22 IN WEST OAHU THAT SPANS FROM KO OLINA TO MAKUA.

DE MONT KALAI MANAOLE IS THE CO-MANAGER OF HO'OMANA PONO, A NATIVE HAWAIIAN ADVOCACY CORPORATION.

HE'S CURRENTLY PART OF PILOT PROJECT WITH DHHL TO RELOCATE INDIGENT NATIVE HAWAIIANS ON THE WAIT LIST TO VACANT HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS FOR OFF-GRID LIVING.

AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE DANIEL HOLT REPRESENTS DISTRICT 28, WHICH ENCOMPASSES SAND ISLAND, IWILEI AND CHINATOWN.

HE WAS FIRST ELECTED TO THE HOUSE IN 2016 AND IS THE CO- CHAIR OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATITVES NATIVE HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS CAUCUS.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE FOR THE NEXT HOUR.

I WANT TO START WITH YOU.

CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU FIRST GOT ON THE HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS WAITLY AND WHAT WOULD IT MEANS TO YOU IF YOU WERE GIVEN A LEASE, HOME THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS.

>> >> FIRST WENT ON THE WAIT LIST WHEN APPLIED FOR COULD YOU KEAUKAHA BIG ISLAND.

WHEN I, CAME OUT OF SYSTEM, PRISON SYSTEM AND MY MOM WAS ON THE WAIT LIST FOR 30 YEARS.

WHEN SHE DIED IN 1995.

AND SO WHETHER I FOUND OUT THAT I COULDN'T TAKE HER PLACE, ON THE WAIT LIST, I HAD GO AND APPLY FOR MYSELF.

AND WHAT WOULD MEAN FOR ME TO BE ON THE HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS WOULD BE HISTORICAL THING IN MY FAMILY.

BECAUSE MY MOM FOUR SIBLINGS, FOUR SISTERS AND TWO BROTHERS EDGE ONE OF THEM GOT HOMESTEAD THEY ALL DIED.

EXCEPT FOR ONE UNCLE STILL ALIVE RIGHT NOW.

LIVES IN VEGAS.

AND AS FAR AS ALL MY COUSINS IS CONCERNED, ONLY ONE GOT THE MY MY AUNTY HELEN'S HOMESTEAD PASSED DOWN TO HIM.

SO IN OUR FAMILY, HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS IS NEVER BEEN FRIENDLY TO US.

AND SO MEANS A LOT TO ME TO BE ABLE TO FIGHT TO GET NOT ONLY MYSELF OR MY FAMILY AND OUR LAHUI ON THE LAND IMPORTANT TO DO IN A.

>>Lauren: COULD YOU PAINT A PICTURE FOR VIEWERS HOW BIG IS THIS WAIT LIST, WHY IS THE WAIT LIST SO LONG?

AND WHAT IS THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR OUR VIEWERS WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS PROCESS.

>> THANKS LAUREN.

IT'S ABOUT 29,000 PLUS ROUGHLY ABOUT 500, 29,572 AND GROWING.

BECAUSE OF THE MOMENTUM OF THE PROGRAM, AND WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, MORE PEOPLE ARE FINDING OUT THAT THEY QUALIFY AND THEY'RE GETTING ON THE LIST.

THAT LIST IS GROWING.

THE PROCESS IS QUITE ONEROUS.

GOING THROUGH FILLING OUT JUSTIFYING THAT TO SHOW YOUR BLOOD QUANTUM.

AND ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT BACK WHEN PRINCE KUHIO WAS ADVOCATING FOR THIS, IT REALLY WASN'T, FOR OUR LAHUI.

UNFORTUNATELY, WITH DIFFERENT PARTIES THAT APPEALED IT, IT WAS 50% OR NOTHING AT ALL.

AND HE WAS JUST PASSIONATE TO WANT SOMETHING FOR HIS PEOPLE.

SO JUSTIFY THE 50%.

YOU GOT TO SHOW IN IS A SUCCESSOR TO YOU THAT'S 50%.

WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THAT PROCESS A LITTLE MORE FRIENDLY BY INCORPORATING SALES FORCE AND SO HOW DO YOU FIND DIFFERENT NORTHWEST INNOVATIVE WAYS INTERACTION WITH OUR BENEFICIARIES, INTERACT WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS INTERACT WITH LENDERS TO MAKE THIS PROCESS MUCH QUICKER.

BUILDING IT.

THE SHOULD GO LIVE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.

>>Lauren: IF YOU WERE A AWARD OR RECEIVE A HOME, HOW MUCH COST IT COST?

IF YOU WERE GO GO GET OFF THE WAIT LIST.

>> IT VARIES, AND WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF THE RISING COST AND WE'VE SEEN THAT COST DIFFER JUST IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, AND NOW, WITH TARIFFS COMING IN, WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO FIND WAYS WITH OUR DEVELOPERS TO REALLY CREATE A COST THAT IS AFFORDABLE.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S RANGING ANYWHERE FROM 500 TO $700,000.

BUT WE'RE HAVING LIKE VERY SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH ALSO THE UNION.

UNIONS, AND FINDING WAYS TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER A HOUSE PRODUCT THAT IS AFFORDABLE.

AND WE'RE DOING SOMETHING NEW.

LEADERSHIP WITH CHAIR WATSON'S DIRECTION, AND WAS TO HE DOESN'T WANT TO BYPASS ANYBODY THAT IS ON THE LIST.

RIGHT NOW, IF YOU PREQUALIFY, IF YOU DON'T PREQUALIFY, MIGHT PASS TO YOU FIND OUT SOMEONE WHO IS PREQUALIFIED.

NOW GET PROBABLY LEASE AND DEVELOPERS ARE BUILDING BASE BAD UPON WHAT THEY CAN QUALIFY.

VERY DIFFERENT PIVOT AND VERY DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAT BEING TAKEN.

>>Lauren: PROMISE GET TO LAWMAKERS IN JUST A SECOND.

KALANIANAOLE STICKI BRING US TO SPEED.

2022 DEPARTMENT RECEIVED $600 MILLION.

WAS ALL OF THAT SPENT AND WHY WERE YOU REQUESTING ANOTHER $600 MILLION THIS SESSION.

>> SO WE HAVE, WE ARE AT 500 MOLNAR MILLION ENCUMBERED END OF CALENDAR YEARMENT ALL 600 MILLION WILL BE COUPLED FOR 20 PROJECTS STATEWIDE.

ENCUMBERED.

THIS WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE LEASES AND LOTS DEVELOPMENT FOR ABOUT 7,000.

SO A LOT WORK THAT'S BEING DONE.

OTHER QUESTION WAS?

WHERE WE'RE AT?

>>Lauren: ASKING, YEAH.

>> 600 MILLION.

600 MILLIONI ACTUALLY WAS INTRODUCED BY SUPPORTERS OF THE DEPARTMENT, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO JUMP ON AN PROVIDE NECESSARY CONTENT THAT WAS NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THIS FORWARD.

WE ACTUALLY NEED 6 BILLION TO ADDRESS ALL 29,000 ON THE WAIT LIST.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT IS WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD TOMORROW'S PRODUCTS WITH YESTERDAY'S MONIES.

YESTERDAY'S BUDGET.

SO EACH TIME THAT WE DELAY, IT GETS MORE EXPENSIVE SEEN THAT IN MATTER OF PAST FIVE YEARS.

SO SOMETHING THAT IS CONTINUOUS ON ANNUAL BASIS.

WE CAN BE ABLE TO PROJECT HOW WE ADDRESS.

EXAMPLE IF WE WERE GIVEN 100 MILLION FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS, WE CAN BE ABLE ABOUT TAKE ABOUT 4800 OFF THE WAIT LIST.

>>Lauren: OBVIOUSLY 600 MILLION WAS NOT GIVEN TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS.

SAMANTHA DECORTE CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR CONCERNS WHEN THEY WERE ASKING FOR THAT MONEY.

FIRST OF ALL PUT ON THE TABLE $6 BILLION REQUEST.

THAT WAS A PART OF THAT BILL.

THAT IS VERY PROBLEMATIC IN TODAY'S TIMES RIGHT NOW, LET ME JUST MENTION THE FACT THAT TAXPAYORS ARE HAVING TO DISH OUT THESE FUNDS.

SO WITH THE 600 MILLION THAT WAS APPROPRIATED IN 2022, WE'RE FINDING IT TO BE VERY PROBLEMATIC THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS SPENDING $500 MILLION SO FAR.

AND WHAT HAWAIIANS GETTING IN RETURN?

GETTING A HOUSE.

THAT IS GOING TO BE COST THEM ANYWHERE BETWEEN 500 THUS TO $700,000.

LET ME REMIND EVERYBODY, THAT THESE ARE LEASEHOLD LANDS.

NOT FEE SIMPLE LANDS.

AND THAT IS JUST NOT FEASIBLE TO HAWAIIANS.

SO WHAT THEY'RE FINDING OUT IS THAT WHEN THEY DO GET THE PRICE OF THESE HOMES, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY UNAFFORDABLE.

AND THAT IS NOT THE MISSION OF THE HAWAIIAN HOMES COMMISSION ACT.

DEPARTMENT IS DOING IS THEY'RE MAKING THIS ABOUT HOUSING.

AND THE HAW HAWAIIAN HOMES COMMISSION ACT IS ABOUT LAND ONLY THING DEPARTMENT WAS SUPPOSE TO GO, GRUB THE LAND, UTILITIES ROADWAY ACCESS IN THERE.

CREATING HOUSING PRICES THAT ARE JUST ENORMOUS AND OUR PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD IT.

SO WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS.

NOT MOVING FORWARD.

WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING NEW.

WE NEED TO GET HAWAIIANS ON THE LAND.

BECAUSE SOME TURNKEY HOMES ARE NOT BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY MAY BE WANT SOMETHING SIMPLER.

WHOLE HAWAIIAN HOMES COMMISSION ACT WAS TO BE TO GET NATIVE HAWAIIANS BACK ON TO THE SOIL.

>>Lauren: CLARIFY, ARE YOU AGAINST GIVING DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS MORE MONEY OR WHAT ARE YOU ASKING THEM DO?

>> SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT FUNDING.

THIS IS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND SO IN THIS PAST SESSION, WHEN THE DEPARTMENT CAME TO ASK FOR ANOTHER $600 MILLION, AT THAT TIME, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PRODUCE ANY REAL TIME NUMBERS ON THE LACES THAT WERE WORLDED AT THAT TIME.

LEASES) WARD AT THAT TIME ENDED UP GET GIVEING A LOT OF LEASES OUT WHICH FROM MY UNDERSTANDING R IS PROJECT LEASES.

VERY DIFFERENT FROM LAND LEASE.

I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

>>Lauren: LET THE DEPARTMENT RESPOND.

REPRESENTATIVE HOLT LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

YOUR STANCE ON THE $600 MILLION REQUEST.

MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN PARTY ALSO WERE SOME OF THEM WERE AGAINST IT LIKE SENATOR SAMANTHA DECORTE HERE.

CURIOUS WHY YOU DIDN'T THINK THE WHY DIDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH.

>> CAME FROM A MEMBER AND COMMUNITY.

HAWAIIAN HOMESTEAD COMMUNITY.

NUMBER NEVER GOING TO BE ENOUGH.

$6 BILLION SHORT.

TO GET 29,000 PEOPLE.

I DO UNDERSTAND THE HIGH COST OF THE HOMES.

AND PART OF THE DEPARTMENT'S CHARGES ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE READY TO AFFORD THESE HOMES ONCE IT COMES BEING BUILT.

BUT WITH THE DIFFICULTIES OF PERMITTING AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS BUILDING A HOME, I WAS SPEAKING WITH KALANEARLY HAVING DIFFICULTIES H THE INDIVIDUAL.

GIVEN JUST A PIECE OF LAND.

DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THE PERMIT, TO GET THE TE MATERIALS BUILD THEIR HOME.

DEPARTMENT IS DOING THEIR BEST DO WHAT THEY CAN CONSTRAINTS THEY FACE AND IF WE WANT TO PUT PEOPLE IN HOMES WE NEED TO BUILD NEW HOMES.

NOT ENOUGH HOMES TO PUT THESE 29,000 PEOPLE INTO.

I DO HE WILL WITH COME ANY MORE MONEY THAT WE CAN GET FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

I DO NEED TO BE CREATIVE.

THE ONE TIME $600 MILLION BIG, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

WE NEED A DID DEDICATE SORTS FUNDING.

SOME WAY TO GET CONTINUAL SOURCE.

100 MILLION EVERY YEAR, COULD PLAN OUT INTO THE FUTURE.

MAKE SURE WE HAVE HOMES BUILT.

BUT I AM IN VERY MUCH SUPPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.

>>Lauren: DO YOU WANT TO GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO WHAT WAS SAID HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE'VE BEEN SPENDING MONIES, MENTIONED, ENCUMBERED MONIES FOR THE PURPOSE OF BIDDING BUILG INFRASTRUCTURE.

GREW UP IN NANAKULI, WONDERING WHAT THAT BIG TANK WAS ON THE THAT WATER TANK ON THE MOUNTAIN.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BUILD ENTIRE WATER SYSTEM.

WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

ROADWAYS.

ET CETERA.

INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO OUR BENEFICIARIES CAN ACTUALLY ACCESS THE PROPERTY.

THE WE ARE.

WORKING WITH DIFFERENT SOURCES OF FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO FIND WAYS TO BRING COSTS DOWN.

AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH DIRECTION ONCE AGAIN WAS WORKING WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS TO EVALUATE WHO THE BENEFICIARIES ARE.

SOME OF THEM CAN'T AFFORD ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE ENOUGH MONEY.

SO WE WORK WITH THEM ON A DIFFERENT PROGRAM AND SOME OF THEM CAN AFFORD BUT THEY ONLY MAKE 80% AMI.

SO THEY CAN BE ABLE TO NOT BUILD A HOUSE.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.

WE HELP THEM BUILD IT.

AND THEY USE CERTAIN TIME OF FINANCING.

SO THERE IS SO MUCH OPTIONS OUT THERE.

TRY INTERROGATORY PROVIDE PRO-DD TRYING TO PROVIDE THOSE OPTIONS FOR ALL OF OUR BENEFICIARIES.

>>Lauren: ANYTHING WANT TO CHIME IN.

>> IMPORTANT ALSO FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO RECOGNIZE BACK OF GENERATING REVENUE.

INTO THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IF THE DEPARTMENT CAN'T GENERATE ITS OWN REVENUE TO CONTINUE TO BUILD HOMES FOR HAWAIIANS, THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO COME BACK AND CONTINUE TO ASK LEDGE FOR MORE MONEY THAT IS JUST UNREALISTIC.

SO RIGHT NOW, DEPARTMENT IS LEASING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON DHHL LANDS THAT ARE NOT CHARGING MARKET RENT.

SO AGAIN, THERE'S A FEW APPROACHES TO THIS.

NUMBER ONE, IS DHHL ACTUALLY USING THE $600 MILLION TO PUT HAWAIIANS INTO HOMES AND THEN ALSO, WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO GENERATE THE REVENUE?

CAN'T COME BACK AND CONTINUE TO ASK TAXPAYOR TO KEEP PAYING FOR THE HOMES WHEN THEY'RE SITTING ON PRIME LAND OVER HERE IN MAPUNAPUNA, KALAELOA.

AND THIS IS VERY RICH COMMERCIAL LANDS THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO EX GENERATE REVENUE.

GOT TO BE OWN INDEPENDENT DEPARTMENT TO GENERATE OWN REVENUE.

$6 BILLION, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE EVER GOING TO SEE THAT.

THAT IS JUST VERY ENORMOUS.

>>Lauren: WE HAVE A LOT OF VIEWER QUESTIONS ALREADY.

COMING IN QUICK.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, I DO HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS I WANT TO ASK.

LELET'S GET SO SOME VIEWER QUESTIONS.

THROW THIS ONE OUT, I THINK THIS ONE MIGHT BEST BE FOR KALANI TO ANSWER.

ANYONE CAN ANSWER IF YOU FEEL YOU WANT TO CLIMB IN.

CHIME IN.

HAWAIIAN HOMES LAND HAVE A CONTRACTOR BUILD ON.

WHY CAN'T THEY JUST GIVE PEOPLE THE LAND AND LET THE PEOPLE BUILD IN THEIR OWN HOMES THAT ARE APPROVED BY HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS?

>> IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WE'VE GONE IN WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.

INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUILT OUT INFRASTRUCTURE.

SUBDIVISION.

THIS SATURDAY GOING TO KAUAI ISSUING ABOUT 15 LOTS THAT ARE THERE.

REMNANTS OF WHAT WAS BUILT SOME TIME AGO PI'OLANI KEKAI.

15 SELECTEDDING LOTS WILL BE BUBUILDING THEIR OWN HOMES BREEMPLE VIED PARTNERSHIPS, -- PROVIDED PARTNERSHIPS SOME OF OUR PARTNER AND SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE WALKING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO WE KNOW THAT AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMEONE BY THEIR SIDE.

TO BE ABLE TO WALK WITH THEM AND HELP THEM BUILD THIS HOUSE AND OCCUPY IT.

BE ABLE TO AFFORD SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD.

>> QUESTION MAY BE LAWMAKERS OVER HERE.

MY RIGHT CAN CHIME IN.

FUNDING IS HUGE NEED FOR DHHL AND NATIVE HAWAIIAN, HOW DOES CUTTING $600 MILLION HELP NOW HAWAIIANS GET LESS?

IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TO THE LAWMAKERS.

BUT MAYBE THE TWO OF YOU COULD CHIME IN ON YOUR STANCE ON THAT AND HOW WE CAN STILL HELP OUR NATIVE HAWAIIANS MOVING FORWARD.

>> AGAIN, TO ME, THAT IS NOT ABOUT THE DESIRE TO WITHHOLD MONEY FROM THE DEPARTMENT.

IT IS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO JUST AS WE WOULD KEEP ANY DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABLE, ON TAXPAYOR FUNDS, IT'S NO DIFFERENT FOR THE DEPARTMENT HOIMDZ.

HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS A LOT KEY FACTOR IS NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION.

DEPARTMENT GENERATING OWN REVENUE.

CONTINUE TO KEEP COME BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE ASK FOR MORE MONEY NOT RESPONSIBLE ON THEIR PART MANAGING THIS HUGE ENTITY AND NOT ACCEPTING REVENUE OR NOT COLLECTING THE REVENUE TO PUT BACK INTO THE TRUST.

TRUST IS SPECIFICALLY RUN BY THE BENEFICIARIES, NOT THE DEPARTMENT.

THAT FUNDS NEED TO GO INTO THE TRUST SO THAT'S BENEFICIARIES CAN THEREFORE MAKE DECISION ON HOW THEY WANT TO SEE THOSE FUNDS BEING SPENT.

>> DIFFERENT OPINION.

I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING VERY ACCOUNTABLE.

WORK GROUP IN THE HOW AND BEEN HAVING MEETINGS.

IN THE HOUSE AND HAVING MEETINGS PERIODICALLY TO MAKE SURE ENCUMBER THE MONEY.

EXTENDED ILL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTSE SURE FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT.

ALL THERE.

600 MILLION BILL GOT CUT DOWN CONCERNING.

SINCE INITIAL $600 MILLION COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE NOT HAD A SINGLE DOLLAR FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR HAWAIIAN HOMES.

I KNOW AS FAR AS HOUSE IS CONCERNED, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY THIS YEAR.

MAKING SURE WE FIND SOME KIND OF SUSTAINABLE REVENUE TO BUILD A HOUSES.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES.

THROUGH THEIR COMMERCIAL LANDS THAT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.

THE LEDGE WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO FUND THEM PROBABLY FOREVER.

AND WE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CREATIVE WAYS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THEM THE FUNDING.

>>Lauren: WE HAVE A LOT OF VIEWER QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR PILOT PROJECT AND HOW THAT'S HELPING MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN COMMUNITY.

>> OKAY.

LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO FIRST ADDRESS BECAUSE I DO ADVOCACY.

AND I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR HAWAIIAN HE ISES GET ON INDUSTRIAL LAND.

WITHOUTONE OF THINGSI DISCOVERES WE HAVE IN KALAELOA NO WATER, NO ELECTRICITY.

SO THE RENTS THAT IS BEING ABLE TO, DEPARTMENT CAN CHARGE, CAN ONLY BE AROUND ONE CENT PER SQUARE FOOT.

WHEREAS CAMPBELL INDUSTRIAL SITE HAVE ELECTRICITY AND WATER.

CAN CHARGE HIGHER RENTS DHHL COULDN'T MARKET THOSE LANDS THAT WE HAVE IN KALAELOA SYMSIMPLY BECAUSE DON'T HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT GOES TO QUESTION OF THAT YOU'RE ASKING, PILOT PROJECT THAT I AM A PART OF, CAME AS A DIRECT RESULT OF WHAT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.

IN THE PAST, THERE WAS A MOVE WHERE HAWAIIANS SAID, GIVE US THE LAND.

JUST GIVE US THE LAND AND WE'LL WORK THE LAND.

HAPPENED IN KA'U AND HAPPENED IN KAHIKI INOUYE.

WHAT END OF HAPPENING SAID OKAY WE'LL GIVE YOU THE LAND.

AS SOON AS THEY GOT THE LAND, HAWAIIANS GOT LAND, THERE WAS A LAWSUIT THAT WAS MADE.

THEY SUED DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO FOR A LONG TIME, THE DEPARTMENT WAS RELUCTANT TO JUST THROW PEOPLE ON LAND.

BECAUSE THE FIRST THING HAPPENED, SOMEBODY WANT TO FILE A LAWSUIT.

SO WHEN I CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA TO DO THE OFF GRID LIVING, THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WAS POSE TO DO ME.

HOW DO WE GET AROUND THIS THING BECAUSE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE A RISK AND GETTING SUED AGAIN.

AND SO IMH WHEN I WORKING WITH PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO PUT THIS THING TOGETHER.

FIRST THING WE HAD TO ADDRESS.

MAKE SURE DEPARTMENT UNDERSTOOD I WASN'T SETTING UP FOR LAWSUIT.

SO WE DESIGNED PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY ON OUR SIDE.

IF I WANT THE LAND, I SHOULD BE WILLING TO KNOW I GOT TO TAKE THE RISK OF BEING ON THE LAND, AND TAKE THE CONSEQUENCE OF BEING ON THE LAND WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.

HAWAIIANS DOCUMENT COMING TOGETHER TO HELP THIS PROJECT SUCCEED.

I HAVE SMALL NATIVE HAWAIIAN COMPANIES, THAT NOW COME IN WITH TRUCKS AND THEIR WORKERS AND WHATNOT.

AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

COMPANY THAT DONATED THE TWO 4-.

TWO 40-FOOT CON TANNERS CUT OUT DOORS AN WINDOWS TO ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE.

CONTAINERS AND SO, WE'RE WORKING.

WE'RE WORKING.

IT CAN BE DONE.

BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE WAS RELUCTANT.

BECAUSE ALREADY GOT BURNED FOR IT.

IN THE PAST.

SO TO THINK THAT WE CAN JUST THROW KANAKA ON ISLAND, I'M ALL FOR THAT I WANT US TO BE TO BE ON THE LAND.

YOU WILL FORTUNATELY WE LIVE IN LIT INNOS SOCIETY.

ANY OPPORTUNITY PEOPLE GET TO TRY TO LITIGATE THAT WILL END UP WASTING MORE RESOURCES MONEY, THAT DHHL HAS TO DEFEND THOSE CASE.

WE WILL LIVE IN A LITIGIOUS SOCIETY.

>>Lauren: WITH VERY A LOT OF OFTA LOTTENGAUGED VIEWERS.

>> I WANT TO ADD LIGHT TO THIS.

BIRTHDAY COME UP.

WHAT IS EXCITING WITH WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ON THIS LAND?

>> SATURDAY, THE TWO 40-FOOT CONTAINERS GOING TO BE DONATED AND PUT ON THE LAND.

AND SO FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, I HAVE MY OWN HOUSE.

MY OWN PLACE TO LIVE.

SOMETHING THAT IS MY OWN.

WE HAVE THE DESIGN FOR OUR SEWAGE TAKEN CARE OF.

WE HAVE OUR WATER BEING TAKEN CARE.

NO WATER ON THE LAND.

SO YOU HAVE TO TRUCK IT IN.

SO WHAT WE GOT WAS 2500-GALLON TANK DONATE THD US TO US.

FROM THAT GOING TO BUILD CATCHMENT SYSTEM.

BECAUSE DOING DURING RAINY SEASON WE CAN THEN REFILL EVERYTHING.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ON THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY, GENERATORS AND WHATNOT, WE HAVE ELECTRICITY THAN WE NEED TO FUND WHAT WE DO.

>>Lauren: DID I HEAR YOU SAY CONTAINERS PREMANUFACTURED.

>> SOMETHING THAT HE WAS PURSUING ON HIS OWN AS THEIR NONPROFIT.

>>Lauren: WAYnd TO JUMP IN.

ACKNOWLEDGE THAT EFFORTS THAT HE IS DOING OUT THERE IN WAIANAE.

BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE AND I DOES FURTHER MY POINT WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS IF YOU GIVE HAWAIIANS LAND, THEY CAN BUILD.

EVENTUALLY.

SO I'LL LET YOU GET ON IT TO YOUR NEXT QUESTION.

>>Lauren: SEE IF MAYBE WE CAN GET THROUGH AS MANY OF THESE AS POSSIBLE.

WATCHER WATCHING HOPING I'LL ASK THESE QUESTIONS MANY MAYBE WE CAN KIND OF TRY RAPID FIRE GIVE YOU GUYS TIME TO TALK.

BARBARA ASKING, ONCE SOMEONE ON THE WAIT LIST, HOW SOMEONE PEOPLE SEEIVE A LIST.

GOES BASE ON ORDER DATE OF THEIR APPLICATION.

>>Lauren: ARE GREGGOR IN KAKAAKO, ASKING WHY CAN'T THEY BUILD CO CONDOMINIUMS OR APARTMENTS PEOPLE ON WAIT LIST INSTEAD OF A WAITING TO ACQUIRE SO MUCH LAND.

HIRED CONSULTING FIRM P SAID THEY NEEDED TO BUILD UP NOT OUT.

>> STARTING THAT AT HALE MOILIILI, CONSTRUCTION STARTED.

GOING VERTICAL SHOULD BE READY FOR OCCUPANCY 2027.

>>Lauren: IS THE IDEA WITH THAT FOLKS ON THE WAIT LIST WOULD HAVE PLACE TO GO IN THE MEANTIME?

>> YES.

>> LET ME JUMP IN ON THAT.

ACCORDING TO THE 2020 BENEFICIARY SURVEY, WHEN THE DEPARTMENT ASKS WHAT BENEFICIARIES WANTED, THEY DID NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF VERTICAL LIVING.

THEY DID NOT WANT CO CONDOMINIUM ON LAND.

ACCORDING TO PRINCE KUHIOS HAWAIIAN HOMES COMMISSION ACT PUT HAWAIIAN ON LAND GROW THEIR OWN PLANTS, CONNECT WITH AINA, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE THE MISSION OF PRINCE JONAH KUHIO.

>> CHIME IN ON THAT.

YEAH I ATTENDED HAWAIIAN HOMES COMMISSION MEETING A LOT.

I'M USUALLY THERE.

AND I HEAR THAT A LOT.

LIKE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIVING IN BOXES.

SUPPOSE TO BE LIVING ON LAND.

UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF THE LANDS THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE DEPARTMENT IS LANDS THAT CANNOT BE, NOT SUITED FOR BUILDING HOMESTEAD AND WHATNOT.

LOOK AT WAIMANALO ALONE, YOU KNOW THOSE MOUNTAINS BEHIND WAIMANALO HOMESTEAD, A LOT OF THAT CONSIDERED PART OF LAND.

THERE IS NOBODY WE CAN PUT THERE.

SO TO HAVE THIS NOTION THAT NOBODY SHOULD BE LIVING IN ONE BOX, TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY, THERE'S A LOT OF KUPUNA THAT IS INTERESTED IN JUST BEING ABLE TO HAVE A RENTAL SPACE.

THEY JUST WANT A SPACE FOR THEMSELVES.

I SAY THIS BECAUSE I DID COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR THE WAIPOULI PROJECT.

ON KAUAI.

THAT WAS RECENTLY, WAS HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL.

WHAT I DID WAS I CONTACTED EVERYBODY WHO IS NOT IN HAWAII, ON THE ZIP CODE, ALL ON THE MAINLAND.

AND ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THEM, ALL KUPUNA AGE, AND THEY ADMIT THAT WHEN THERE WERE 20 AND 30, THEY WANTED LAND.

NOW THAT THEY'RE IN SIXTIES AND 70s, THEY JUST WANT TO LITTLE SPOT FOR THEMSELVES.

THAT'S WHY WAIPOULI PROJECT WAS APPEALING TO THEM.

AND WAS BEST ABOUT THAT IS THEY WANTED TO JUST COME HOME.

THE SAD THING ABOUT IT IS WHEN I CONTACTED THEM, A LOT OF THEM HAD 808 NUMBERS.

THEY KEPT 808 NUMBERS.

ASKED THEM, WHY DID YOU DO THAT?

BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING LEFT FOR THEM TO HOLD ON TO ON THE CONTINENT.

THEY JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO COME HOME AND WHEN THEY HOLLER HOLLER ON THE LAND.

THAT'S WHY THE CONDOS WAS IMPORTANT THANKFUL HE BROUGHT UP DIFFICULTY WITH DHL ACQUIRING LAND.

OR USING THEIR LAND AS MATTER OF FACT, IN MAILE IN MY COMMUNITY, VOICE OF AMERICA LOT THAT ACCORDING TO THE 2022 STRATEGIC PLAN OF DHHL, THAT LOT WAS SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE ABOUT 150 LOTS.

PARCEL OF LAND SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE.

150 LOTS.

$35 MILLION WAS ENCUMBERED.

AND THEN NO LONGER IS THAT PROJECT BEING USED FOR WHATEVER REASON.

SO THIS IS A PART OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

WE DO HAVE USABLE LANDS.

BUT THEY'RE NOT BEING USED.

>>Lauren: MAYBE COULD YOU CHIME IN ON THAT, AS TO WHY SOME LANDS ARE NOT BEING USED?

>> AREAS WHERE WE REALIZED WE NEEDED TO INVEST MORE IN THE DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AND SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF.

WE HAD SHIFTED SOME OF THOSE FUNDING ON AREAS THAT WE, INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ALREADY AVAILABLE.

WE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD ON QUICKER TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE WAIT LIST NOW.

AND SO THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE SHIFT.

WE'RE GOING BACK TO TAKE A LOOK AT AREAS IN THE WAIANAE COAST.

TO SEE HOW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BE ABLE TO BUILD ON LANDS THAT ARE IN KAPOLEI BASQUE ON THAT WEST END OF OAHU.

>>Lauren: BOB FROM KAHALUU ASKING, I THINK THIS IS MAYBE KIND OF RELATED TO SENIOR WHAT U HAD MENTIONED HOW MUCH MOCHI AGENCY GENERATING.

ALL HOMESTEAD LANDS LEASED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES HOW MANY HOW MUCH INCOME COME BACK TO HOMESTEAD AGENCY?

STATE KEEPING MONEY.

GENERATE ABOUT 20 MILLION PER YEAR FROM THE COMMERCIAL LANDS ITSELF.

ALSO LOOKING AT THE, OTHER INNOVATIVE WAYS TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE.

SOME OF THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE RACE WAY TRACK.

AND ALSO, THAT AREA IS RIGHT BELOW COSTCO.

AND KAPOLEI.

TAKE A LOOK AT DIFFERENT TYPES USES, WHETHER IT'S HOSPITALITY, INDUSTRIAL, ET CETERA, RETAIL.

THAT COULD BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT RACE WAY TRACK.

DIFFERENT INNOVATIVE THINGS.

LOOKING AT EXTENDING T.O.D.

GOING DOWN TO KAMAKANA ALI'I.

AND SO THERE IS I DO AGREE WITH SENATOR.

THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE.

LOOKING INTO THAT.

WE HAVE SOME SHOPPING CENTERS.

WHERE WE HAVE GROUND LEASES.

THERE'S KAPALAMA, AND HILO.

ALSO IN KAPOLEI.

THAT ACTUALLY GENERATES REVENUES.

ROUGHLY ABOUT 20 MILLION PER YEAR GENERATED.

>>Lauren: JOHN FROM HAWAII KAI ASKING, SPEAKING INNOVATION, MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY WILL WANTED TO CHIME IN ON, COUPLE RELATED QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE SAME TOPIC.

WHY CAN'T WE WERE I IN PREMANUFACTURED HOMES FROM OUTSIDE, THESE HOMES COST MUCH LESS, THAN BUILDING NEW HOMES.

AND THEN IF I CAN, READ THE RELATED ONES.

VALERIE FROM HAWAII KAI, SAYS, HAWAIIAN HOMES STEAD SHOULD CONSIDER USING 3 D PRINTERS FOR CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

SOME OF THEM ARE 3D.

SOME MANUFACTURED HOME.

WORKING WITH UNIONS.

WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS.

FINDING DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FOR OUR BENEFICIARIES.

SO THERE IS NOT ONE SOLUTION.

AND MORE WE EXPLORE THE MORE WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS.

WE REALLY WANT TO FIND A SOLUTION.

>> I'M GLAD THAT DEPARTMENT IS ON THAT TOO BECAUSE JUST IN THE BUDGET WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN TALKS WITH COMPANY THAT DOES WHAT THEY CALL THAT, SHOT CRETE LOOKING BEING ABLE PROVIDE HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS WITH STRUCTURED, BUILDINGS THAT IS CHEAPER TO DEVELOP.

USING SHOT CRETE AND IT'S WONDERFUL TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT THING DONE ON THE AINA.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT WANT TO HELP HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS.

>>Lauren: IS THIS IDEA OF INNOVATIVE HOUSES IF YOU WILL, SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT OR YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WANTING TO GIVE NATIVE HAWAIIANS LAND.

>> I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF TIME FOR THE EPISODE, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD COME HERE AND JUST KIND OF ROUNDTABLE THE GREAT IDEAS.

BUT I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO STAY ON THE PLAN THAT THE CURRENT CHAIR HAS WHICH IS COSTING HAWAIIANS $700,000 TO PURCHASE A FIVE BEDROOM.

THESE IDEAS ARE GREAT.

BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AT THE TABLE.

RIGHT NOW, HAWAIIANS ARE ABSOLUTELY GETTING PRICED OUT OF THESE HOMESTEAD HOMES.

OPTION OF GRUBBING THE LAND AND GIVING THEM LAND, PROVEN THAT WE CAN SUSTAIN OURSELVES.

BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE ONLY OPTION IS TO BUY THROUGH US, AT AN $700,000 COST, THAT IS NO LONGER BENEFITING THE BENEFICIARIES.

ONLY PERSON BENEFITING ARE THE BENEFIT DEVELOPERSTHAT ARE DEVE.

>>Lauren: DO YOU AGREE?

WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS I DISAGREE.

THE DEPARTMENT IS THERE TO TRY TO HELP HAWAIIANS BACK ON THE LAND.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE WE WOULD LIKE.

BUT FIVE BEDROOM HOUSE COST NORMALLY?

I DO UNDERSTAND $700,000 LOT OF MONEY.

PART OF DEPARTMENTS CHARGE ALSO TO EDUCATE HAWAIIANS TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN BE WEALTHY ENOUGH TO AFFORD THESE THINGS.

AND WE NEED TO FUND THEM.

SO THEY HAVE THE POSITIONS TO IF YOU WILL FILL EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

WE DO NEED TO EXPLORE ALL THE DIFFERENT KIND OF HOUSING AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF 3 D PRINTING AND STUFF.

KEEP HARPING ON $700,000 COST, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.

>>Lauren: HARPING O FACT THIS IS WHAT HAWAIIANS ARE BEING OFFERED RIGHT NOW.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO CIRCLE BACK TO THIS TOPIC.

BUT THAT IS REAL TIME WHAT HAHAIONE HAWAIIANS ARE BEING FAH RIGHT NOW.

>> FEW OTHER QUESTIONS.

THIS VIEWER FROM WAIMEA SAYING KAMUELA HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS DEVELOPMENT WITH ALL THE NOSERS BUT NO HOMES FOR OVER TEN YEARS.

INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

,.

>> WE HAD SOME VIERT AIL ISSUES WITH UXO.

ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

NEEDED THAT TO GET APPROVED BY DOD AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

AND SO THAT TOOK SOME TIME.

ALSO SOME LEGALITY ISSUES WITH THAT.

WE'RE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT FUNDING AND MOVING FORWARD ON THAT NEXT PHASE.

ALSO LACKING THAT ENTIRE REGION IS ACTUALLY LACKING THE CAPACITY FOR WASTEWATER.

SO WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH COUNTY.

HOW DO WE NOW MOVE FORWARD IN MAKING SURE THAT'S UP TO COUNTY CODE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THEIR PRIORITY LIST, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD TO WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THOSE LANDS AVAILABLE FOR OUR BENEFICIARIES.

SO IT'S EXCITING TIME RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE NOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE LIFTED AND SOME ATTENTION AND PRIORITIES FOR THAT.

>>Lauren: QUESTION FOR LEGISLATORS DHHL IS ONLY STATE AGENCY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING SUFFICIENT FUNDS.

HOW ARE THEY ENSURING THEY ARE UPHOLDING THIS RESPONSIBILITY.

>> >> I THINK THEY MEANING LAWMAKERS AND LEGISLATORS.

>> NOT SURE IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

MANAGING SUFFICIENT FUNDS.

I THINK MIGHT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO.

BUT I'M A LITTLE CONFUSE THE QUESTION.

>> CHIME ON IN ON THAT.

THIS SESSION I TRIED TO INTRODUCE A BILL THAT AUDIT DHHL TO SHOW PRETTY MUCH ITEMIZED SPENDING WHAT THEY'RE COLLECTING.

DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY RECEIVES $20 MILLION IN REVENUES IT FROM COMMERCIAL LEASES.

THAT'S A SMALL SCALE.

YOU HAVE KAMAKANA ALI'I.

GENERATING MILLION DOLLARS A MONTH.

THEY WERE NOT PAYING MARKET RENT TO THE BENEFICIARIES.

EXCUSE ME TO THE TRUST, THAT WOULD THEREFORE HELP THE BENEFICIARIES.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT TAXPAYORS HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY ON HOW DEPARTMENT IS OPERATING AND THIS IS THEIR MONEY BEING SPENT.

>>Lauren: THIS VIEWER IS WRITING IN.

ASKING ABOUT THE WAIT LIST PROCESS.

THIS WHY CAN'T THEY USE DNA TO SPEED IDENTIFICATION PROCESS UP?

IS THAT I'D E'O IDENTIFICATION N PROCESS SOMETHING HOLDING UP THE WAIT LIST?

>> THAT'S A GREAT ARE SUGGESTION.

EVERYTHING IS GOING THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

WORKING WITH JUSTIFYING THEIR WHO IS THE FULL BLOODED HAWAIIANS.

SO YOU CAN JUSTIFY THE BLOOD QUANTUM.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE REVIEW PROCESSES THAT ARE BEING CONDUCTED IN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE QUALIFIED.

>>Lauren: TASHA KAHULUI.

TALKED ABOUT MAKING DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABLE.

HAWAIIANS ARE LOOKING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS.

IF THE DEPARTMENT PUT ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL OF THE CONTRACTORS HAVE TO DO IS BUILD THE HOUSE, WHY CAN'T WE GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILT?

>> >> EXACTLY.

I MEAN THAT'S MY QUESTION TOO.

AGAIN, THIS IS NO LONGER BECOME ABOUT GETTING HAWAIIANS ON THE LAND.

BEEN GO GETTING HAWAIIANS INTO THE HOMES THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD.

WHO REALLY AT THE END DAY IS BENEFITING FROM THIS?

IS THE DEVELOPERS.

IT'S NOT THE BENEFICIARIES.

IT'S NOT THE WAIT LISTERS AND IT'S NOT THE SUCCESSORS.

>> LIKE TO SAY THAT ALTHOUGH DOING A VERY GOOD AT HIS PROJECT.

CAN'T JUST GIVE PEOPLE BUNCH OF LAND.

IRRESPONSIBLE.

WE NEED TO TO OUR DUE DILLIGENCE TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE PEOPLE, NICE PLACE TO LIVE.

>> I DISWITH AGREE.

NANAKULI HE/HI HOMESTEAD FIRST T GIVEN LOTS.

DIFFERENT HOUSE REFLECT DIFFERENT WAYS OF LIFE FOR THE FAMILIES AND ALSO, WHAT THEY COULD AFFORD AT THE TIME.

SO YEAH.

>> CAN I JUST SAY FOR NEW DIRECTION, ONCE AGAIN, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT LEASES.

IDENTIFYING WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD.

BUYING BUILDING BASED ON WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD.

RIGHT NOW TAIL END OF OLD REG E.J.

@TRYING TO MAKE THAT WORK.

GET THEM INTO IN RIGHT NOW.

OLD REGIME.

AT THE SAME TIME BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE AND WORK WITH DEVELOPER BUT DEVELOPERS NOW HAVE TO BUILD BASED UPON WHAT THESE BENEFICIARIES CAN AFFORD.

WHAT THESE LESS PERCY IHARA LES.

WHAT I I SEE NOW HAVEN'T SEEN N YEARS IS THAT NOW, AND THIS ADMINISTRATION, THIS COMMISSION, GOT TO REMEMBER, EVERYTHING GOT TO RUN THROUGH THE COMMISSION, THE DEPARTMENT CAN HAVE ALL THE PLANS THAT THEY WANT.

IF THE COMMISSION DOESN'T APPROVE IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO.

WE HAVE NOW IS MELDING OF UNDERSTANDING OF CATERING EVERYTHING TO THE TRUST BENEFICIARIES RATHER THAN TO THE LIST.

THAT WAS THE PROBLEM IN THE PAST.

EVERYTHING WAS THE LIST, THE LIST, THE LIST.

BUT NOW, THE DEPARTMENT IS SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE.

IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE.

THEN THE COMMISSION IS SAYING, YES, IT'S ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE ON THE LAND.

SO NOW THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO DO THAT.

SO LOOK WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

WE HAVE NOW IS WIDE RANGING OPTIONS FOR EVERYBODY.

FOR SH EVERYBODY.

WHEN I CAME IN WITH THE IDEA, I SAID IT BECAUSE IT WAS A LIST OF HAVE'S AND HAVE NOTS.

IF YOU GOT MONEY, YOU CAN GET ANY HOMESTEAD THAT YOU WANT.

BUT IF YOU ON A 30% LESS AMI NEVER GET ANYTHING.

WAIT DEPARTMENT WAS, DID WAS HEARD THAT CALL.

AND NOW, THEY'RE DESIGNING STUFF FOR THOSE OF US WHO ON THE LOWER END.

SO WHAT I LIKE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, IS THAT THERE'S A WIDE RANGING OFFER FOR EVERYBODY.

SO ONE PIECE DOES NOT FIT ALL FOR EVERYBODY.

OFTEN FOR EVERYBODY.

>> SO GLAD KALANI BROUGHT UP PROJECT LEAST.

DEPARTMENT IRISH USUAL YOUING THOUSAND PROJECT LEAST.

THESE ARE NOT LAND LEASES THESE ARE PROJECT LEASES FOR YOURSELF MAYBE VIEWERS AEL HOME DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S DIFFERENCE, PROJECT LEASE ISN'T NECESSARILY TIED TO A TMK NUMBER.

A LAND LEASE IS.

SO THESE PROJECTS LEASES ARE BEING AWARDED BY THE THOUSANDS IN THE HOPES THAT THEY WILL GET A LAND LEASE EVENTUALLY.

SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH REPEATING HISTORY BECAUSE THE REASON THAT I KNOW THESE PROJECTS LEASES, THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO WORK.

BECAUSE 2020, 2003, WHEN MICAH KANE WAS THE CHAIR HE PROPOSED AT THE TIME IT WAS CALLED PAPER LEASES.

FAST FORWARD 20 YEARS, NOW IT'S CALLED PROJECT LEASES.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

NO TMKS ON THESE LEASES.

AND SO WHAT IS GOING TO END UP HAPPENING IS PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING ACTUAL LEASE, BUT IT'S.

IT'S A PAPER LEASE.

SO FOR YOURSELF AND VIEWERS AT HOME, IF YOU WANT TO DO THE RESEARCH, GET OUT YOUR SMART DEVICE, LAPTOPS, OPEN GOOGLE, GO AHEAD AND RESEARCH MICAH KANE PAPER LEASES, D HHL.

YOU WILL SEE 20 YEARS AGO, THAT WAS A FAILURE.

NOW FAST FORWARD UNTIL NOW, THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE A FAILURE.

>> I DISAGREE.

I GOT TO SHARE THIS.

DIFFERENT TODAY, I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS AT THE LEGISLATURE ADVOCATING FOR IT.

THE REASON WHY THEY'RE DOING THE PROJECT LEASE NOW, IS NOT WHAT MICAH KANE PROPOSED.

WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT LEASE IS FOR, IS TO ALLOW EVERYONE WHO HAS THEM NOW, SAY KUPUNA JUST GOT IT, I DEAL WITH BUNCH OF KUPUNA RECENTLY GOT THEIRS IN KOLUKAI.

WHAT THIS ONE DOES IS THAT IT ALLOWS YOU TO HOLD THAT LEASE IF YOU PASS, BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT IS CONCERNED, IS MADE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PASS THIS ON TO YOUR PEOPLE TO YOUR SUCCESSORS.

THE MIC A CONE MICAH KANE ONE DD NNOT A HOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

THIS ONE IS PUTTING THAT IT IN PLACE NOW.

YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR HAND NOW.

IF YOU PASS TOMORROW YOUR SUCCESSOR IS ON.

THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

IN THE PAST HAVE TOYOTA WANT ON THE THE WAIT LIST AND IF YOU DIE ON THE WAIT LIST, YOU HAVE TO WAIT, YOUR WHOLE BLOODLINE GOING TO BE WIPED OUT.

NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ANYTHING.

>> ADD THIS POINT.

WE CAN MOVE ON.

CURRENTLY ABOUT 600 PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL WAITING FOR THEIR PAPER LEASES FROM 20 YEARS AGO.

SO YES, DEPARTMENT DOES GIVE YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HOLD ON.

IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT NUMBER OR IT.

MK ATTACHED TO IT, IT'S NOTHING.

>> I SAWER ARE NODDING YOUR HEAD DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN OR PASSED MIC.

>> GO AHEAD.

TWO THINGS.

ADDRESSING THE UI'S GENERATE SOME TIME AGO.

>> UNDIVIDE INTEREST.

>> PAPER LEASES.

AND SO WE'RE ADDRESSING HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE THEM.

ALSO NEED TO TAKE A STEP INTO IT AND SAY, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO OCCUPY SOMEWHERE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO WALK WITH THEM, GO THROUGH THE FINANCIAL ASSESSMENTS, FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD, ONCE AGAIN, BUILDING VERY DIFFERENT, NOW WE HAVE A CAPTURED AUDIENCES.

DEVELOPERS NOW IN THIS NEW APPROACH, REALLY HAS TO FIND OUT WHAT CAN THESE PEOPLE WITH PROJECT LEASES HAVE.

WHAT CAN THEY AFFORD.

AROUND THAT IS THE WAY THEY'RE BUILDING.

THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS WE BUILT BEFORE, AND IF YOU CAN QUALIFY, THEN YOU CAN BE OCCUPY SOMEPLACE.

NOW, IT'S WHAT DO YOU QUALIFY?

WE'LL BUILD IT BASED UPON THAT.

>> VERY DIFFERENT.

IF YOUR CALCULATION, WHEN RECEIVING THESE PROJECT LEASES, INFORMATION, SURVEYS YOU'RE DOING, ARE YOU FINDING THAT PEOPLE CAN FORTED $700,000?

CAN AFFORD.

>> ONCE AGAIN YOU MISSED POINT.

THE POINT IS WE'RE BIT EULD E'O BUILDING BASED UPON WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD.

WHAT WE'RE FINDING, GOOD EXAMPLE, PUUHONUA A, ENTIRE AREA THAT WE WENT OUT FOR AWARDS WAS PREQUALIFIED.

I WATCHED A LINE OF 20 PEOPLE WAITING IN LINE.

I WENT UP TO THEM I SAID,EL I KNOW YOU GOT AWARD A LOT.

DO YOU GET PREQUALIFICATION.

>> YES.

FOR $700,000.

READY BECAUSE MY FAMILY IS READY.

WITH HE SHALL BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME.

WE'VE BEEN WAITING THERE ARE SOME THAT QUALIFY.

HOWEVER ONES THAT DON'T.

HOW DO WE BE ABLE TO HELP THEM?

AND AAGREEING TAKE A LOOK AT THE COST OF BUILDING.

REPRESENTATIVE HOLT MENTIONED IT.

COST OF BUILDING NOW IS SO EXPENSIVE.

HOW DO WE FIND INNOVATIVE WAYS TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT COST DOWN?

>>Lauren: I DON'T THINK ANYONE DISAGREEING THAT MANY FOLKS THAT CANNOT AFFORD THE $700,000.

I WILL READ THIS VIEWER'S COMMENT.

NOT GOING TO GET TO EVERYBODY.

A LOT OF VIEWER ENGAGE.

THIS VIEWER CHIMED IN AND SAID, $700,000 IS CHEAPER THAN 1.2 MILLION NATIVE HAWAIIAN STILL ON THE LIST, I WOULD PAY $700,000 FOR A DHHL HOME.

I WANT TO GET TO FEW MORE QUESTIONS.

IF WE CAN.

WITH LAST FEW MINUTES HERE.

ASKING, WE ARE NATIVE HAWAIIAN FAMILY.

ON FAMILY OWNED LAND.

WITHOUT RESOURCES TO BUILD ON OUR LAND.

GOING BACK TO THE BUILDING AND LAND.

DOES DHL OR OHA PROVIDE ASSISTANCE DEVELOPING ON PRIVATE LANDS N LAND FOR THOSE Y FOR HOMESTEAD.

>> RESOURCES DEVELOPING ON PRIVATE LANDS FOR THOSE QUALIFY FOR HOMESTEAD.

>> BASED H HOMESTEAD ACT, NOT ABLE TO.

I'M NOT SURE IF OHA IS.

MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY WITH SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE.

>> OF $600 MILLION APPROPRIATION FIRST SETS OUT ONE PLANS WAS TO SET ASIDE MONEY FOR THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS TO PAY DOWNTOWN HONOLULU PAY THES OUTSIDE OF HOME TROPICAL DEPRESSION.

DOWN PAYMENTS.

OUTSIDE.

HOMESTEAD ACT RUN INTO THE ROAD BUMPS.

>> ADD THE FACT THAT, DEPARTMENT IS ALSO RECEIVING INNAHASDA FUND.

FEDERAL FUNDING IN ADDITION TO HELPING HAWAIIANS GET INTO THEIR HOMES.

INTO THEIR LANDS.

>>Lauren: THIS VIEWER ASKING, WE ARE PLANS FOR OTHER ISLANDS, ONLY OAHU IS BEING REFERRED TO.

THROUGHOUT THIS HOUR.

THIS VIEWER IS SAYING.

FEW MINUTES MAYBE YOU CAN TOUCH ON HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS FOR THAT NEIGHBOR ISLANDS.

>> 6, 7,000 WE'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING OUT, SPANS ENTIRE PAI'AINA.

LANAI, 75 ORGA 75 ON LANAI.

12 TO 1400 LEASES GOING OUT FOR PROJECTS ON MAUI.

HAWAII ISLAND, WEST AND EAST HAWAII, KAUAI, GOING THERE TOMORROW.

I MEAN, NOT TOMORROW, BUT SATURDAY.

BIG DEVELOPMENT.

ROUGHLY ABOUT 3 TO 400.

A LOT THAT'S HAPPENING ALL THROUGHOUT T PAI'AINA.

NOT JUST OAHU.

HAVE TO TRY TO FOCUS MORE BECAUSE THERE'S ABOUT 16,000 THAT'S ON THE LIST FOR OAHU.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT DENSE, DENSITY AND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.

>>Lauren: VIEWER ASKING, HOW DOES YOUR PROJECT HELP TACKLE WAIT LIST?

>> I BELIEVE OUR PROJECT IS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THOSE ON THE LOWER END OF THE SCALE FOR THOSE OF US 30% OR BELOW AMI.

PROPOSAL WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND APPROVED.

IS DEALING WITH US PEOPLE.

WHO ARE WAI WELFARE RECIPIENTS, SSI, THOSE OF US WHO HANDICAPPED, CANNOT WORK, OR KUPUNA, WILL BE ABLE TO GET A LOT, BE ABLE TO SMALLER THEY CAN BE MANAGEABLE.

THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILY JUST TO DO LIKE SUBSISTENCE AG.

COME OFF THE WAIT LIST.

AND FOR ME, COME OFF THE AGRICULTURAL LIST.

BOTH LISTS I'LL BE ABLE TO COME OFF AND TAKE CARE OF MY FAMILY.

IN THAT SMALL SPACE.

>>Lauren: ESTIMATES AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE WAIT LIST, WHO WANT YOUR PROJECT AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

>> I HAVE NEVER DOING OFFICIAL POLLING OR ANYTHING.

I DON'T DO THAT.

BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT OF THE 30,000 ON WAIT LIST, ALMOST, AT LEAST HALF OF THEM WOULD BE IN THE CATEGORY WHERE I'M AT.

I MEAN, HOW MANY PEOPLE I KNOW IN MY OWN CIRCLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUY A HOME THAT IS WORTH WHATEVER, IN THE MARKET.

MOST OF US LIVE ONLY PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.

AND/OR JUSTEL ONE PAYCHECK AWAY FROM BEING HOMELESS.

SO THE PEOPLE THAT TARGETED IN THIS PILOT PROJECT IS PEOPLE LIKE ME.

PEOPLE ON THE BEACH.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NATIVE HAWAIIANS.

ON THE BEACH HOMELESS.

I WANT TO SEE THEM OFF OF THERE.

AND I GOT THAT INSPIRATION FROM KUNIA COUNCIL IN WAIANAE.

IT WAS THEM TOOK THE INITIATIVE.

TO OPEN UP ULUPE KUKUI TO GET THE KUPUNA OFF THE BEACH INSPIRED ME DO THAT.

I BELIEVE, GOT TO KNOW, HAWAIIANS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCALE ECONOMICALLY.

SO IF THAT IS TRUE, THEN MAY JOSHTD OF THE PEOPLE ON THE WAIT LIST MAJORITY OF PINEAPPLE ON THE WAIT LIST GOT TO BE PEOPLE ON WAIT LIST GOT TO BE ON MY CLASS.

>> MY POINT GIVE HAWAIIANS LAND.

>> LAST FINAL THOUGHTS TO YOU.

GIVE SHALL CHANCE FINAL THOUGHT.

FIVE MINUTES LEFT.

VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT IT CLEARLY FROM ALL THE VIEWER ENGAGEMENT.

ANY FINAL THOUGHTS THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO TO THOSE ON THE WAIT LIST FROM US TRAITDED.

>> RESONATE WITH THEMMER.

FRUSTRATED WHY I TAN TEURN TO KP DEPARTMENT KPTABLE WITH KUALI'I THESE QUESTIONS FULL TRANSPARENCY.

DID MY DISTRICT MAKES UP LARGEST NATIVE HAWAIIAN POPULATION IN WORLD.

TOUGH ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS BENEFICIARIES ARE BEING REPRESENTED AND 2, TAXPAYOR FUNDS ARE BEING ACCOUNTED FOR.

RIGHT NOW I JUST DON'T SEE THAT.

SO LOVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT THERE CAN BE FULL TRTRANSPARENCY GOAL GET HAWAIIANS ON LAND.

ACT 279 PURPOSE IS CREATE MULTIPRONG APPROACH IN REDUCING WAIT LIST.

NOT BUILD RENTALS.

NOT BUILD CONDOS.

NOT JUST FRIVOLOUSLY BUT TO REDUCE ITS WAIT LIST.

I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.

>>Lauren: I DO APPRECIATE IT.

HAVE TO SAY EVERYONE BEING RESPECT TIRVEL WITH DISAGREEMENTS WHY WITH THESE FORUMS CONVERSATION.

>> LAST THOUGHTS?

>> WANT TO CH COMMEND DEPARTMEN.

GREAT JOB IN THE LAST FEW YEARS SINCE CHAIR WATSON COME ON.

BEING AROUND FOR A LITTLE WHILE, SEEING INACTION IN THE PAST, DON'T NEED TO BRING UP THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED 20 YEARS AG.

MOVERRING FORWARD.

INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE AND MAKING SURE HAWAIIANS ARE COMFORTABLE LIVING HERE.

COME BACK FROM THE MAINLAND AIR THEY DON'T HAVE THRIVE U LIVE ON THE BEACH.

THERE'S R ALWAYS GOING TO BE ISSUES.

NOTHING GOES PERFECT ALL THE TIME.

GOING TO BE HICCUPS.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND, THAT DEPARTMENT IS DOING THEIR JOB AND NEED TO GET THEM MORE FUNG EVERYBODY HARPING ON FUNDING.

FUNDING GETTING THEM MORE MONEY BUILD HO BUILD HOME PEOPLT IN.

CREATIVE GET THE JOB I THE OUR JOB AT THE LEGISLATURE AND HIS JOB TO BUILD HOME.

RIGHT PATH.

LAST FEW YEARS ON PACE TO BUILD, 7, 8,000 HOMES LAST I THINK ONLY ABOUT 12,000 HOMES BUILT SINCE 1920.

PUTTING THAT PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE ON A GOOD PACE RIGHT NOW.

IF WE GET FUNDING TO KEEP GOING, WE'LL DO GREAT.

>> INNOVATIVE IS NOT TAKING A PLAN FAILED 20 YEARS AGO AND DUPLICATING IT HERE TODAY.

>>Lauren: GIVE THE LAST FINAL TO KALANI HERE.

ANYTHING WANT TO SAY TO THOSE ON WAIT LIST FRUSTRATED WHO BEEN WAITING DECADES?

AS FAR AS WAITED DEPARTMENT IS DOING TO TRY TO MOVE US FORWARD.

NOT GOING TO SOLVE IT IN THIS HOUR CONVERSATION.

>> I WANT TO SAY DON'T STOP HOPING AND SAY THAT I BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME.

AND I'VE SEEN THEM WALK IN RECEIVE A LEASE PASS IT ON TO THEIR GRANDCHILD AND THAT GRANDCHILD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN OPTION TO LIVE ON THE AINA INSTEAD OF MOVING TO VEGAS BECAUSE THEY'RE A MONTH AWAY FROM MOVING FAMILY OF FIVE THERE.

EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IN WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

IN MAUI.

I WANT TO SAY THAT IT TAKES A VILLAGE.

AND REALLY TAKES A LOT OF PILINA COLLABORATION.

MAHALO TO ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US.

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT, DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

ALL THE COUNTIES THAT HAVE BEEN STEPPING UP TO FIND OUT WAYS TO PARTNER WITH US.

TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND ALSO, TO JUST SAY, THAT THERE'S BEEN PARTNERSHIPS ALL AROUND WITH THE ALII TRUST.

SO DON'T GIVE UP HOPE.

EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER.

IT'S ACTUALLY GREAT TIME RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THAT THERE'S A NEED.

AND MANY DE DIFFERENT HANDS COMING TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THAT.

ONCE AGAIN, DIAS DON'T GIVE UP HOPE.

PRAYER IS POWERFUL.

KEEP UP THE PULE KIND OF MENTION A BIBLE VERSE.

ASK AND IT SHALL BE GENE.

SEEK AND YOU CAN SHALL FIND.

KNOCK IT SHALL BE OPEN.

WE'RE ASKING.

WE ARE SEEKING AND WE ARE KNOCKING.

SO WITH THAT CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP, WE'RE GOING TO BUILD.

WE'RE GOING TO RESTORE AND RETURN OUR PEOPLE TO THE LAND.

>>Lauren: APPRECIATE IT.

ALL YOUR TIME HERE TONIGHT.

THIS IS TOPIC THAT MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY CARE ABOUT.

JUST ANTECDOTE I HAVE I WILLIVEY QUESTIONS I HAVE RECEIVED FROM OUR VIEWER.

THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN.

ASKING IMPORTANT QUESTIONS WISH WE HAD MORE TIME TO GET TO ALL OF THEM.

GUESTS - KALANI FRONDA FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS AND DE MONT KALAI MANAOLE OF HO'OMANO PONO.

AND STATE LAWMAKERS, SENATOR SAMANTHA DECORTE AND REPRESENTATIVE DANIEL HOLT.

NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, WE'RE TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT THE DANGER ON OUR ROADS.

SO FAR, MORE THAN 70 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN TRAFFIC RELATED ACCIDENTS THIS YEAR ACROSS THE STATE.

THAT'S ABOUT TWO DOZEN MORE THAN AT THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR.

WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO ADDRESS IT.

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

I'M LAUREN DAY FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

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