STRENGTHENING EL NINO WEATHER PATTERNS IN THE PACIFIC.

NEWERK SEASON INTENSIFIES.

BRING DROUGHT CONDITIONS WILDFIRES STRONGER STORMS OR SOMETHING ENTIRELY UNEXPECTED?

HEAR FROM LOCAL HE CAN PERS BREAK DOWN WHAT WE KNOW.

WHAT WE DON'T AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO PREPARE.

TONIGHT'S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII START NOW.

♪ ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAII.

I'M YUNJI DE NIES.

WITH PACIFIC OCEAN TEMPERATURES SURGING TO RECORD LEVELS, ONE OF THE STRONGEST EL NIÑO EVENTS IN RECENT MEMORY IS TAKING SHAPE.

FOR HAWAII, THAT COULD MEAN AN ACTIVE HURRICANE SEASON, POWERFUL STORMS, PERIODS OF DROUGHT AND AN ELEVATED THREAT OF WILDFIRES THAT STRETCH WELL INTO WINTER.

SO, WHAT CAN WE EXPECT IN THE MONTHS AHEAD?

WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT'S SHOW.

YOU CAN EMAIL OR CALL IN YOUR QUESTIONS, AND YOU'LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAI'I YOUTUBE PAGE.

NOW, TO OUR GUESTS.

JOHN BRAVENDER IS THE WARNING COORDINATION METEOROLOGIST FOR THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WEATHER FORECAST OFFICE COVERING HAWAII.

BASED IN HONOLULU, JOHN WORKS STATEWIDE TO HELP ORGANIZATIONS AND RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND AND PREPARE FOR WEATHER HAZARDS.

DOTTY KELLY-PADDOCK IS AN EDUCATOR AND COMMUNITY LEADER.

SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE NON-PROFIT HUI O HAU'ULA AND CURRENTLY SERVES ON THE KO'OLAULOA NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

SHE IS CURRENTLY BUILDING THE FIRST RESILIENCE HUB ON OAHU TO HELP PROTECT RESIDENTS DURING NATURAL DISASTERS.

RANDAL COLLINS IS THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY OF HONOLULU.

HE HAS MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE SPANNING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, MILITARY SERVICE, AND HIGHER EDUCATION HE HAS SUPPORTED MORE THAN 30 FEDERALLY DECLARED DISASTERS IN THAT TIME.

CLAY TRAUERNICHT HAS BEEN AN EXTENSION SPECIALIST IN THE FACULTY OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAI'I AT MANOA SINCE 2013, WORKING ON WILDFIRE MITIGATION AND ECOSYTEM RESTORATION TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES, WATERSHED PROGRAMS, AND LANDOWNERS ACROSS HAWAII AND MICRONESIA.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PANEL TONIGHT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE HERE.

I WANT TO START WITH YOU.

WE UNDERSTAND EL NINO.

HEARD OF THIS FOR SOME TIME NOW.

BUT IT SEEMS THAT THIS YEAR HEADLINE AFTER HEADLINE REALLY SOUNDING THE ALARM SCOTT BELL.

LET'S START WITH THE BASE IDGES.

WHAT IS EL NINO AND WHAT MAKES THIS YEAR DIFFERENT?

>> SURE.

EL NINO IS A LARGE SCALE WEATHER PATTERN.

WARMER TEMPERATURES IN PACIFIC ALONG THE EQUATOR.

NORMALLY THERE WE HAVE STRONG TRADEWINDS, EAST TO WEST BLOWING WINDS.

WHEN THOSE WINS BREAK DOWN WE DON'T GET AS MUCH WESTERLY WINDS, WATER TEMPERATURES WARM UP MORE.

AND WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT THAT WARMER OCEAN TEMPERATURES ALONG THE EQUATOR HERE IN THE PACIFIC AFFECTS WEATHER PATTERNS GLOBALLY.

MAINLAND P BANES ACROSS WORLD.

A LOT OF IMPACTS INCLUDING WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN HAWAII.

>>Yunji: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS YEAR YEARS PAST?

JUST SEEING MORE ALARM DIFFERENCE HE REALLY STRONG EVENT.

GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE'S ATTENTION A LOT OF INTEREST, ACROSS THE BOARD.

SOME OF LONGTERM CLIMATE FORECASTS THAT SHOW JUST STRENGTH OF HOW MUCH WARMER WE ARE EXPECTED TO BE 2023, WAS DESCENT EL NINO NOT TOO IMPACTFUL.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TOO MUCH NOT A BUSY SEASON.

THIS YEAR, THERE'S A LOOKS A LOT STRONGER.

AND THAT PROBABLY WHAT GOT PEOPLE ATTENTION.

>>Yunji: WE TEND TO THINK OF EL NINO MORE IN TERMS OF THE OCEAN.

AND OF COURSE RAIN.

BUT YOU'RE THE FIRE GUY.

SO TELL US WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

>> I'M HERE BECAUSE SEEN A LOT OF GREEN UP.

EVERYONE NOTICING HOW LUSH AND GREEN THE MOUNTAINS LOOK AND AREAS AROUND US.

SO WHAT WE SEE EL NINO IS ISLAND OF LAG EFFECT.

RESPECTED TO FIRE, PARTICULARLY WET YEAR LEADING UP TO AS THAT EL NINO SYSTEMS RAMPING UP.

AND SO WE SEE WETTER THAN.

>> SUMMERS.

ON THE BACK OF THESE KONA LOW EVENTS REALLY GREEN THINGS UP.

BUT TYPICALLY WITH THAT LEADS INTO, APPROACH WINTER IS BELOW AVERAGE RAINFALL.

OUR BIGGEST FOR A YEARS TEND TO BE SPHROANGLY COOLER ATED WITH STRONGLY CO COORDINATED INTENSELY.

WORSE FE FIRES HERE.

>>Yunji: A LOT OF RAIN IN BEGINNING NOT A THE WILL COMING UP.

>> IT'S BEEN WET PRIMARY BIG FIRE ACTUALLY BY KAWAIHAE.

BEEN WETTER THAN AVERAGE NICE RAINY SUMMER.

FUELS ARE STILL A STILLCUMULATING ON LANDSCAPE.

ANTICIPATING SEEN IN THE PAST, DON'T EVER REALLY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

GOOD EVIDENCE THAT RAIN WILL PROBABLY TRICKLE OFF AND WE'LL GET DRYER THAN AVERAGE WINTER.

WHEN FIRE ACTIVITY HAS POTENTIAL TO RAMP UP.

>>Yunji: TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING TO TRY TO HELP TO PREPARE THE COMMUNITY AND FROM WHERE YOU SIT, DO YOU FEEL WE ARE PREPARED FOR SCENARIOS THAT JOHN AND CLAY ARE OUTLINING FOR US U I TONIGHT THINK WE'RE PREPARED YET.

COMMUNITIES FROM THE MOST PART, KIND OF SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND MAYBE THEY GO OUT AND GET EXAMPLE FROM A FOOD HOPEFULLY.

EXTRA FOOD HOPEFULLY I REALLY BELIEVE COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN ON THEIR OWN FOR A LONG TIME.

AND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES I THINK BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME SABER US IN A DISASTER.

AND WHAT WE LEARNED EARLY ON, WHEN WE GOT CONCERNED WHEN PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, AND ASKING QUESTIONS, GOOD QUESTIONS WE LEARNED THAT PEOPLE FOR THE MOST PART ARE VERY LASEF AIR ABOUT THE IDEA.

NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE THEY'LL SAY.

WELL, OKAY.

WE DO LOTS AND LOTS OF TRAINING, LOTS AND LOTS OF DISCUSSION, ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF DISASTERS.

I GREW UP IN A PLACE THAT HAD TORNADOES ALL THE TIME.

THEN I MOVED TO SAN FRANCISCO AND WE HAVE EARTHQUAKES ALL THE TIME.

AND HERE, OUT IN THE PACIFIC, LOOK AT HURRICANES.

AND MOST PEOPLE IN HAWAII DON'T REALLY BELIEVE THAT HURRICANES IS GOING TO COME.

THEY DON'T BELIEVE THEY SHOULD LEAVE THEIR HOME EVER.

AND THESE ARE DIFFICULT THINGS.

I ALSO LOOK AT THIS STATISTICS WITH SENIORS BEING THE PEOPLE THAT DIE THE MOST.

IN DISASTERS.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO REACH OUT TO ALL PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND ENGAGE THEM ABOUT DISASTERS ASK THEM QUESTIONS, WE STARTED DOING A SURVEY IN THE COMMUNITY, OVER TEN YEARS AGO.

WE CALL TO OUR HELP SURVEY.

AND WE GO DOOR-TO-DOOR AND WE ASK PEOPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT DISASTERS.

AND THAT IS HOW WE KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT AND WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO ENGAGE THEM AND TALK ABOUT IT.

>>Yunji: WHAT ARE YOU THINKING WHEN IT COMES TO PREPAREDNESS?

DOTTEDY JUST OUTLINED I THINK THERE'S LOT OF TRUTH IN THAT, PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL JOHN IS ON TELEVISION TELLS US IT'S COMING RIGHT NOW.

COUNTY LEVEL DO YOU THINK WE'RE READY?

>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.

UNDERSTANDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE SHELTERS THAT WE NEED FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED OR DENTIST PLATED FROM A DISPLACED FRAY HURRICANE COMES ALONG AND SHE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

HEARD ONCE I HEARD IT A MILLION TIMES IN TERM IS NOT NOT HAPPENED EAR HERE NEVER HAPPENED TO ME OF THE HEAR THAT DISASTER AND DISASTER AND DISASTER OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND SO WHAT WE REALLY WANT FOR ME MESSAGE ISN'T ABOUT EL NINOMENT IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT BEING PREPARED BECAUSE DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S EL NINO OR LA NENA OR MARDI GRAS, NEED TO BE PREPARED AND THAT PREPAREDNESS IS REALLY ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY AND IT'S REALLY JUST NOT ON THE GOVERNMENT AS WELL.

IN TERMS OF WHEN WE NEED TO DO IN THE GOVERNMENT, REALLY THANKFUL FOR THE BLANGIARDI ADMINISTRATION AND BUDGET THEY PROPOSED.

WE GOT INCREASE NO THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BUDGET.

THAT COMES WITH HUGE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF OUR STAFF.

AND THAT IS JUST ONE STEP TOWARDS RIGHT DIRECTION.

WE NEED A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT.

A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE HARDENED.

SO WE CAN BECOME THAT MORE RESILL GENERAL AND PREPARED ISLAND RESILIENT PREPARED ISLAND WE NEED TO BE.

>>Yunji: WE'RE NOT SEASON NOW.

>> RIGHT.

>>Yunji: SOUNDS LIKE, ADAGE OF BUILDING PLANE WHILE YOU'RE FLYING IT.

TRYING TO BUILD THESE FACILITIES STAFF UP IN THE MIDDLE OF JOHN TELLING US HOW DO WE DO THAT AND HOW DO YOU KIND OF BUILD THAT ALONG THE WAY.

>> I DON'T THINK SEASON IS ABSOLUTELY HERE.

BUT A LOT OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE LONGTERM PROJECTS WHICH I REALLY GIVE CREDIT TO DODOTTIE IT HOW LONG BEEN WORKING ON A THE RESILIENCY PROJECT.

START YOU NO.

STARTS YESTERDAY.

PLAYING INFINITE GAME.

DOESN'T END.

WE JUST TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND KEEP GETTING BETTER YEAR OVER YEAR.

>>Yunji: THINK ABOUT THE SEASON IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE NOT SEEN, WE'VE SEEN HURRICANES THROUGH TIME.

SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE, BUT P INIKI IS REALLY BIGGEST ONE WE CAN THINK OF IN RELATIVELY RECENT MEMORY.

WHAT DO YOU CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS SEASON THINKING MORE STORMS.

MORE INTENSE?

GIVE US SORT OF FOLKS HAVE NOT BEEN A PAYING ATTENTION, MORE THAN A DOZEN STORMS.

>> LIKE RANDY SAID, WHETHER IT'S BUSY SEASON QUIET SEASON, THING I WORRY ABOUT IS PEOPLE NOT TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

WELL, INIKI WAS A LONG TIME AGO.

I DON'T REMEMBER IT.

I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF NEAR MISSES.

DUG ALSO 2020, PASSED JUST A COUPLE DOZEN MILES NORTH OF THE STATE.

A EYE ON RADAR OFFSHORE.

NO IMPACTS.

NO WIND.

NO RAIN.

AND WE'RE JUST SUCH A SMALL TARGET IN BIG OCEAN.

THINGS CAN GO BY US.

WE'VE BEEN LUCKY.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE KEEPING US SAFE.

WE'VE BEEN LUCKY SO FAR.

EAVE A HIT US '82.

INIKI HIT US '92.

HAD IMPACTS SINCE THEN.

BUT NOTHING LIKE A MARRIAGE HURRICANE MAJOR HURRICANE OF AND EVENTUALLY, IT'S LUCK IS GOING TO RUN OUT WHAT I WORRY ABOUT.

>>Yunji: THINK ABOUT WILDFIRE IN PARTICULAR, WITH COME BEING UG THREE YEAR ANNIVERSARY WHAT HAPPENED IN LAHAINA WE KNOW THAT HURRICANE FORCE WINDS OF COURSE PLAYED ENORMOUS ROLE IN THAT DISASTER.

TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE YOU SEE THE SINUS INTERSECTIONFIRE DANG ARM HURRIE DANGER.

>> WE WORK WITH THE WEATHER SERVICE PRIOR, DO I THINK IT WAS 2018, HURRICANE LANE COME.

REALLY CLOSE.

WE HAD SEVERAL FIRES DURING THAT EVENT AND STORM BEFORE LANE STARTED NOTICING AS STORMS BECAME LIKE NEAR MOISES.

FROM A HURRICANE, STANDPOINT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS DRAW DRAWING MOISTURE AWAY TOWARD US.

INCREASED WIND.

LOWER H HUMID DRYER CONDITIONS.

BRING THE RAIN BUT NOT TOO MUCH.

THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, YEAH, PASSES JUST CLOSE ENOUGH, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THOSE EFFECTS IN TERMS OF WIND AND DRY CONDITIONS.

WE CAN REALLY SEE ELEVATED FIRES, EVEN BEFORE IN DROUGHT CONDITIONS.

FIRE JUST PAST WEEK, KAWAIHAE GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.

FUELS ARE CURED ESPECIALLY SOME OF OUR LEEWARD AREAS.

THINGS ARE STARTING DRY OUT ALREADY.

SO I THINK SPACE X TO EVERYONE'S COMMENT IS THAT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHEN YOU START.

BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THESE CYCLES.

EL NINO OR THE NEXT ONE.

YOU GOT TO GET READY FOR THESE THINGS.

>>Yunji: HOW DO YOU GET READY FOR FIRE?

>> FIRES KIND OF COOL ONE.

BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT REALLY DRIVES RISK ON THE LANDSCAPE.

SO COMBINATION OF HARDENING YOUR HOMES SIMILAR TO HURRICANES.

BEING PREPARED AT THE HOME LEVEL.

A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO JUST BY CLEANING UP AROUND YOUR YARD ANTONS OF RESOURCE.

HAWAII WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION ALL KINDS STUFF YOU CAN DO, LIKE TODAY, OR TOMORROW, HOUSEHOLD, WE ALSO KNOW THAT'S DRIVEN BY THE FUELS.

REALLY FUNCTION OF VEGETATION AROUND US AND THEN CONDITIONS THAT ALLOW FIREFIGHTERS IN SAFELY OR NOT.

SO THESE ACCESS, WATER AVAILABILITY, AND VEGETATION.

WE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THAT.

WELL BEFORE FIRE RISK GETS HIGH.

AND I THINK THAT IS BIG MESSAGE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS.

EL NINO ACTUALLY HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND, THINGS MOST LIKELY TO DRY OUT, RISK ISN'T REALLY HIGH RIGHT NOW.

BUT NOW IS THE TIME TO ACTED.

>>Yunji: WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE KONA LOW STORMS.

WHAT DID THE CITY LEARN FROM THAT EXPERIENCE?

WHERE DO YOU SEE OUR BIGGEST WEAKNESSES?

>> WELL, WITH THE KONA LOW STORMS I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECOGNIZED IS JUST HOW FRAGILE THE ISLAND IS.

AND WE TOOK THE FIRST STORM IN AND DIDN'T HAVE AS SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AND THEN SECOND STORM COMES IN, AND HAD A LOT MORE IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY AND ON THE ISLAND.

SO AS WE'RE EXPOSED TO THESE DIFFERENT STORMS THEN THAT FRAGILE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I TALK ABOUT REALLY COMES INTO PLAY.

AND THEN WE GOT SATURATED AS WELL.

SO THERE WASN'T AS GOOD AS RUNOFF.

SO THAT EXACERBATED MORE OF THE FLOODING AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO LEARNED FROM THE DEM STANDPOINT AND PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE AHEAD OF GAME A LITTLE BIT WORKING VERY CLOSE WERE ALLY WITH THE WEATHER SERVICE AND THE UNDERSTANDING WHAT RISKS ARE HEADED OUR WAY AND PREPOSITIONING A LOT OF RESOURCE, SO THAT WE CAN GET IN AND HELP CONDUCT VACCINE WAYS, HEAD OF TIME CONDUCT.

NOTIFY PEOPLE AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND REALLY GET THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING A PRESS CONFERENCE TWO DAYS BEFORE THAT IS YOUR WARNING.

NOT 20 MINUTES BEFORE THE STREAMS RISE AND FLOOD IT'S OUT HOMES AN CARS THAT SORT OF THING, DAYS BEFORE, HOURS BEFORE, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WARN OP-ED SAY, NOW IS THE TIME TO TAKE ACTION.

NOW IS THE TIME TO ENACT YOUR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLANS AND GET TO SAFETY.

AND GET AWAY FROM THE FLOOD NORMAL FLOODING AREAS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

>>Yunji: GOING THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE, WHETHER YOU LOOK AT HOW THINGS UNFOLDED WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW THINGS UNFOLD WHAT DO YOU THINK SOME LEARNING EXPERIENCES HOW DOES RESILIENCE HUB HOW DOES THAT HELP WERE THAT TO HAPPEN IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

>> BIG HELP WILL BE, POWERED BY FULLY RENEWABLE ENERGY.

WE WILL HAVE THAT ENERGY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT HAPPENS IN OUR AREA IS ENERGY GOES DOWN.

NO POWER.

BECAUSE OUR ELECTRIC LINES COME ACROSS 12-MILE KO'OLAU MOUNTAINS.

SO MUCH WIND UP THERE THAT IT COULD LOOK PRETTY GOOD BUT LITTLALLOF A SUDDEN POWER GOES .

THAT MEANS PEOPLE DON'T GET INFORMATION.

A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY'RE CLUENESS ABOUT THE NEXT THING COMING.

AND SO RENEWABLE ENERGY VERY IMPORTANT.

WE'RE WORKING WITH HECO.

WORKING WITH OUR PLANNERS.

AND I'M VERY EXCITED AND HAWAII STATE ENERGY OFFICE TOO.

SO POWER UP ALL OF OUR RESILIENCE HUBS GOING TO BE BUILT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE THE PLACE THAT PEOPLE IN A COMMUNITY CAN COME, GET RESOURCES, GET FOOD, INFORMATION, CHARGE THEIR PHONES, AN THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY CRITICAL FOR THAT REASON AND MANY MORE.

>>Yunji: SO TELL US JUST SO TEAMPEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND DYNAMICS OF THIS, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN EMERGENCY SHELTER.

WHAT IS THIS ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE AND IN PRACTICE AN EMERGENCY, HOW WOULD IT BE ACTIVATED?

>> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT HAS TO BE VERY CLIMATE RESILIENT BUILDING.

IT HAS TO BE BUILDING THAT WILL WITHSTAND CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE.

IT HAS TO BE BUILT OUT OF THE FLOOD AND TSUNAMI ZONE.

SO YOU TAKE THOSE IDEAS AND YOU ADD TO IT, LOOKING AT FIRES AROUND IT.

YOU IT HAS TO BE BUILDING THAT WILL BE FIRE RESISTANT AS WELL AS THINGS YOU PLANT AROUND THAT BUILDING.

SO YOU HAVE PROTECT THAT BUILDING FROM ALMOST ANY POSSIBLE DISASTER.

AHEAD OF TIME AND THAT IS A LOT OF PLANNING, AND THOUGHT HAS TO GO INTO THAT.

AND SO YOU KNOW, WHICH HAVE TO HAVE WINDOWS IN THAT BUILDING THAT WITHSTAND HURRICANES.

AND THOSE THINGS ARE EXPENSIVE.

BUT THEY HAVE TO BE PLANNED FOR.

WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN WATER SOURCE.

IN HAU'ULA WELLS NONE OF THEM HAVE EMERGENCY GENERATIONERS.

AND NOBODY IS GOING TO BRING THEM OUT DURING AN EMERGENCY.

BEEN TALKING WITH BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY, ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

AND THEY WERE SO PROUD WHEN THEY TOLD ME THEY HAD EMERGENCY GENERATORS.

I SAID ARE THEY IN HAU'OLI HAU'ULA?NO.

NOT GOING TO BE THERE WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISASTER.

SO WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT RESILIENCE HUBS TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THESE ISSUES TO SUPPORT LIVES.

AND PEOPLE'S SAFETY.

IN A HURRICANE.

DMIEND OF DISASTER.

>>Yunji: WHAT IS COST FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

WHO IS PAYING FOR IT.

>> VERY EXPENSIVE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

AND OUR FIRST EFFORT I WAS GRANT WRITER FOR YEARS.

FEDERAL GRANTS ARE OUT THERE.

WE APPLIED FOR EARMARK FUNDING.

THROUGH OUR SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES AND IN WASHINGTON.

WE GOT SOME.

AND WE HAVE 5.4 MILLION TO START WITH.

AND IECI'VE BEEN WORKING ON CITD STATE AND ANYBODY I CAN TO HELP US IN THIS EFFORT.

BECAUSE WE WILL PARTICIPATED IN THE CITY PLANNING FOR OLA WHICH IS THEIR RESILIENCE PLAN.

AND I WAS THERE AND I WAS SO SURPRISED NOT MANY COMMUNITY PEOPLE WERE IN THIS PLANNING PROCESS.

AND SO I WAS THERE AND I WAS VERY DETERMINED TO BE INVOLVED IN PLANNING FOR EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS.

AND SO I PRESENT A RESILIENCE HUB IN 2019.

TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO TO PREPARE FOR DISASTERS.

ALL AROUND THE ISLAND OF OAHU.

AND ESPECIALLY IN VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.

>>Yunji: WE NEED TO CLONE DOTTIE.

I THINK ABOUT HAU'ULA ONE COMMUNITY.

BUT OUR TOPOGRAPHY HERE IS SO DIVERSE AND COMMUNITIES FACE ALL KINDS OF NATURAL BARRIERS.

AND YOU THINK ABOUT TREES GOING DOWN OR SOME OF NINTH NEIR ISLANDS SAW LARGE ALBIZIA TAKE OUT POWER FOR DAYS AND WEEKS.

WHAT IS THE INTERSECTION WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL DO YOU THINK FROM THE KIND OF WORK SHE'S DOING THAT COULD BE REPLICATED ELSEWHERE?

>> IF WE CLONE HER MANY TIMES, I'M GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIMEKEEPING UP.

I HAVE A HARD TIME HE KEEPING UP WITH HER.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, JUST GOES BACK TO THE FROM A AGILITY.

DRIVE DOWN SOME OF THESE TWO LANE ROADWAYS OVER MOST OF THE ISLAND, LOOK AT WHERE ARE THE POWER POLES AND WHERE ARE THE TREES AND EVERYTHING INTEREST THAT ARE GOING TO COME DOWN.

IT'S GOING TO ISOLATE THESE PARTICULAR COMMUNITIES.

AND SO WHAT I REALLY LOVE ABOUT DOTTIE IS IN HAU'ULA IS COMMUNITY LED.

WE NEED MORE THAT HAVE.

NEED COMMUNITY-LED.

AND GOVERNMENT SUPPORTED.

AND BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE ISOLATED, GOING TO BE ON THEIR OWN, TAKE US A LOT NG TIME, GOVERNMENT LONG TIME, SOMETIMES TO GET TO THESE ISOLATED AREAS, AFTER THESE STRONG WINDS, HURRICANES, THESE FLOODS, WHATEVER HAZARD MIGHT BE, FOR TO US GET IN THERE AND PROVIDE NOR OF THAT GOVERNMENTAL SUPPORT.

MORE OF THAT, I THINK MORE THAT WE CAN GET ADVOCACY FROM THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, AGAIN, THIS ISN'T PROBLEM THAT IS GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO THROW SOME MONEY AT AND FIX IT IN A YEAR OR TWO.

THIS IS VERY LONGTERM THING THAT EXPWRENL RACING ALAN THAT WE'RE GOING GENERATIONAL HAVE TO PLAN THROUGH AND DEVELOP, NOT ONLY RESILIENCE HUBS BUT THE RIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WHICH NEED TO BE RESILL GENT.

>>Yunji: I WANT TO BRING YOU INTO THE CONVERSATION.

QUESTION HERE FROM PETER IN KAUAI.

WHAT IS THE CORRELATION BETWEEN EL NINO AND HURRICANE EVENTS THAT HAVE HIT, INIKI AND COME VERY CLOSE, INIKI HE ONE GOOD EXAMPLE.

'91, '92 EL NINO YEAR.

KIND OF TAPERING OFF DURING THAT HURRICANE SEASON.

'82, '83 ANOTHER EL NINO THAT WITH EAVE A. HITTING KAUAI.

IWA HITTING KAUAI.

'THE 6, 'THE 7 WASN'T IMPACT TO HAWAII'S 96, '97 PACKARD A FORMED IN DECEMBER.

PAKA MAJOR TYPHOON AND IMPACTED GUAM.

ANOTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE GO THROUGH HURRICANE SEASON.

NOT NECESSARILY JUST THAT WE HAVE A BUSY HURRICANE SEASON, BUT IT'S ALSO WE HAVE A MUCH LONGER ONE.

2015, 2016, RECORD-SETTING YEAR THE NO JUST HURRICANE SEASON W WE HAD DEPRESSION IN DECEMBER.

HAD HURRICANE POLY IN JANUARY OF 2016.

MASSIVE HURRICANE SEASON COULDN'T BE EVEN BE CONTAINED YOU BY A A YEAR.

LOOKING AT NOT JUST BUSY YEAR BUT A LONG ONE.

>>Yunji: MORE CAL YOURSELF.

I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO TAKE THESE ON.

MORE CALLERS.

FIRE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, TWO OF THEM HERE.

HOPING YOU CAN ANSWER BOTH.

ONE IS FROM KAUAI, SAYING ON KAUAI HAD FIVE MAJOR FIRES IN THE POIPU AREA ALL ON THOUSANDS OF ACRES OWNED BY PRIVATE COMPANIES.

WHO WORKS WITH LARGE LANDOWNERS AND HIGH RISK AREAS TO MANAGE OVERGROWTH?

>> GOOD QUESTION.

WE'VE BEEN TEAM RIGHT NOW THAT'S BEEN WORKING WITH LARGE LANDOWNERS TO AT LEAST FIDELL WHAT'S GOING ON, AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.

IDENTIFY.

TRICKY PARTS TO FIRE RECEIPTS BACK TO ONE OF RANDY'S COMMENTS.

THIS IDEA OF HOW DOES GOVERNMENT SUPPORT PRIVATE LANDOWNERS.

AND AT THIS POINT, WE'RE SORT OF NEW ERA BECAUSE AFTER LONE AND LAWSUIT, THAT CAME AFTER LINE LAHAINA FIRST PRIVATE LANDOWNERS HEALTH LIBEL THE NO JUST POWER COMPANIES, THAT HAVE DROPPED, ENERGIZE THE LINES IN THE PAST SEEN ON THE MAINLAND.

FIRST TIME WE ACTUALLY HAVE HAD HOLDING LANDOWNERS LIBEL.

STARTING TO CHANGE THE DYNAMICS.

AT THE SAME TIME HARD TO SORT OF HOW DO YOU APPROACH THIS CARROT VERSUS STICK.

AND SORT OF RIGHT INCENTIVES VERSUS POTENTIAL LEGAL RAMIFICATION.

NOT MANAGE FUEL.

SO HASH HARD U ONE CODES ARE COG FORWARD TO TRY TO KIND OF CATCH UP WITH THE RISK THAT'S OUT THERE.

BUT ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AUTHENTICATE LOT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE STRAPPED FOR INSPECTORS AND CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY GET ON THE GROUND AND FIGURE OUTING WHERE THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

CONCERN IS REAL.

SO YOU TEND TO BE DO WHAT YOU CAN AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE.

ACTUALLY SPEAKS EXACTLY TO THE PROBLEMS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO.

WHAT ACTIONS AND WHAT IS THE CAPACITY LOCALLY TO TAKE ACTION THESE PRIVATE KIND OF HOME LEVEL PARCELS VERSUS THE ADJACENT LANDS.

WITH FIRE RISK, AGAIN NOT EVERY WHERE.

TYPICALLY IN DRY AIR AREAS.

SEEN BIG FIRES IN POIPU.

KAUAI HAS SEASONS WITH THINGS GET SKETCHY.

BUT IT'S BIG CHALLENGE AND I THINK WE SRTS HAVEN'T QUITE WRAPPED OUR HEADS AROUND TIE OFF HERE WHAT'S GOING TO COST?

WHAT IS REEL LYNN INVESTMENT LOOK LIKE-REALLY INVESTMENT LOOK LIKE TO INSURE PUBLIC SAFETY.

HUGE MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB RAMP OUR HEAD AROUND.

WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE TO GUARANTEE PUBLIC SAFETY IN IN CONTEXT.

>>Yunji: HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THOSEREGULATION GIVEN SCALE SOMF THE LARGE LANDOWNERS?

TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS OF ACRES.

>> WELL I THINK THAT DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOK MORE AT THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE WATERWAY SYSTEM AFTER THE KONA LOWS AND SO I KNOW THAT BOTH D.O.T.

AND DMV ARE BOTH LOOKING HARD AND DFM TAKING MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE STANCE AT MONITORING SOME OF THOSE SYSTEMS WHERE STATE AND CITY ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF CLEANING UP THOSE STREAMS THAT DOING THAT MORE AGGRESSIVELY.

BUT ALSO, PRIVATE OWNERS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING CARE OF THEIR PARTICULAR AREAS AN SO NOW WITH THE AID OF DRONES AN OTHER TECHNOLOGY, WE CAN START MONITORING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

TAKING MORE AGGRESSIVE STANCE AND ASKING PUBLIC THAT OWNS PARTS STREAMS TO TAKE MORE CONGRESS.

>>Testifier: STANCE AT MAKE SURE THAT A IM A A AGGRESSIVE E TAKING CARE OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.

>>Yunji: TOMMY HAS A QUESTION.

CAN A HOME BE FIREPROOFED?

HOUSE IS MORE ON THAT 50 YEARS OLD.

SINGLE WALL CONSTRUCTION.

LIKE SO MANY HERE IN HAWAII.

WHERE DO WE START?

CAN THE GOVERNMENT HELP?

>> YEAH ABSOLUTELY HOUSES CAN BE FIREPROOFED.

SAW THAT MIRACLE HOUSE IN LAHAINA.

WHICH WAS REALLY MIRACLE AT ALL.

JUST FOLKS CAME FROM CALIFORNIA AND INTO YOU WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY CONSTRUCTED THAT HOME.

YOU CAN DUI AT LOT OF RETROFITTING A LOT OF IT IS JUST KIND OF BASIC STUFF.

DO AROUND YOUR HOME.

HAWAII WILDFIRE.ORG.

A LOT OF RESOURCES FOR THAT.

AND HAWAII WILDFIRE MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION WORKING WITH FORGET THEIR NAME APOLOGIZE.

ANOTHER NONPROFIT THAT HELPS LOOK AT HOW DO YOU DEVELOP THESE PROGRAMS AT THE GOVERNMENT LEVEL TO SUPPORT SOME OF THOSE RECEIPT RETROFITS.

CAN BE EXPENSIVE CHANGING MATERIALS ON YOUR ROOF SINGLE WALL SIDING., AS TAKE LESS EXPENSIVE CLEANING GUTTERS OUT OUT AND MAKE SURE LINE, FIRST 5-FOOT IMMEDIATELY AROUND STRUCKSTRUCK IT YOU ARE IS CLEA SCIENCE IS SUPER-SOLID MANY SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN SORT OF TAKE FROM THE CONTINENT THEY LEARNED THERE AND STUDIED VERY WELL.

CAN APPLY THOSE LESS ZONES HERE.

>>Yunji: LESSONS HERE.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL OR NOTHING.

WHAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER ABOUT SURVEYS THAT YOU DO, WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE, HERE IN HAWAII KNOW WE'RE DEALING WITH SOME HIGHEST COST OF COST .

PRICE OF GOES GOING ON.

FOOAFFORDABILITY NUMBER ONE ISSUE.

FRFIREPROOFING YOUR HOUSE.

LOW ON THE LIST DON'T THINK IT'S COMING WHAT YOU WITH WWHATCOULD YOU SAY TO HOMEOWNERS MIGHT BE WATCHING.

>>Lacy: I COULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN FIND OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FIREPROOF THEIR HOME.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE BECAUSE I RUN NONPROFIT, AND I WRITE GRANTS ALL THE TIME, I THINK THAT GOVERNMENT AND PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS CAN HELP US A LOT.

IF THEY FUND LOCAL COMMUNITY BASED NONPROFITS TO WORK WITH THEIR COUNCILMEMBER ANDRIA TUPOLA AND HELP THEM COMMUNITIES HELP THEM DO THESE RITHINGS SHOWCASE HOW THIS IS DONE.

WORK WITH HOMES IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND MAKING EXAMPLE OF GOOD PRACTICES FOR FIREWISE AND SAME THING WITH PREPARING AND HAVING LIKE WE NEED CONSTANTLY AFTER ED SNIFFEN BECAUSE RANDY MENTIONED OUR ROAD, WE'VE GOT ONE, TWO LANE ROAD.

IN AND OUT OF THAT LONG DISTRICT.

WITH SIX COMMUNITIES IN THAT.

AND THAT IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF IT.

THERE ARE A LOT OF ER O ROADS ON THIS OUR COMMUNITIES ON THIS ISLAND.

THAT IT HAVE JUST ONE OF THE ONE ROAD.

IN AND OUT.

AND WE ARE GOING TO BE ALFORDING FOR SOME OF THOSE ADVOCATING SOME OF THOSE MILITARY LANDS CAN OPEN UP A SECOND ROAD.

IN OUR DISTRICT.

TO GET OUT BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU EVEN IF PEOPLE START EARLY, TO EVACUATE, THERE ARE NOT GOING TO GET OUT.

THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE JAMMED.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE FOUND OUT.

IN AMERICAN SAMOA IS HOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DIED.

THEY DIED ON THE ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO THE OCEAN.

SO WE NEED TO DO THINGS THAT WILL PREVENT THAT.

WE NEED TO THINK CREATIVELY.

AND GET SOME MONEY INTO THE RIGHT M THAN HANDS TO HELP COMMUNITIES BEGIN TO SHARE THESE EFFORTS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

OIRKS STARTS HELP US THINK ABOUT EVACUATION AND ACCESS, THAT'S FOR FIRE.

FLOODING HURRICANES.

WHATEVER IT IS.

THAT IS SORT OF HELP YOU THIS SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.

ABOVE ALL.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT FIREWISE IN HAU'ULA.

MOST YEARS TALKING ABOUT PRETTY WET AREA.

AGAIN, SORT OF LUKE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT SPECIFIC THREAT IS YOUR COMMUNITY REALLY HAVING TO DEAL WITH.

ALSO, WHERE THESE RISKS HAZARD AROUNDSAROUND START ALIGN BIG INTEREST FOR THE GOVERNMENT, PRIORITIZE ACTION ON THE GROUND.

HELP PEOPLE OUT.

>>Yunji: ROADS ARE A BIG ISSUE.

SAW THAT WITH TSUNAMI THREAT THAT HAPPY HAPPENED EARLIER.

JUST KAKAAKO AND WAIKIKI, AND ALL OF THE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION WE SAW THERE.

HAD A TSUNAMI OF SIGNIFICANCE HIT OUR ISLANDS, COULD HAVE BEEN QUITE KISAS TRUST.

WHAT IS THE STATE DISASTROUS.

WHAT IS THE SIT CITY AND STATE DOING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT THESE ACCESS POINTS BECAUSE, IT'S RURAL AREAS LIKE HAU'ULA, BUT IT'S ALSO URBAN CORE.

>> YES.

WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE D.O.T.

AND UNDERSTANDING SOME OF CHALLENGES WITH TSUNAMI IN PARTICULAR.

I THINK ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PIECES IS REALLY JUST EDUCATION.

AND SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE EVACUATING THAT DIDN'T NEED TO EVACUATE.

WE NEED TO EXPLORE ESPECIALLY ON OAHU, WE HAVE HIGHRISES VERTICAL VACCINE WAYS GOING UP RATHER THAN GETTING IN THE CAR AND GOING OUT.

BUT I ALSO THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT THE FRAGILITY OF ISLAND, WHAT WE REALLY EXPERIENCED ON THAT DAY WAS ALMOST A YEAR AGO, JUST A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO NOW, AND THE THINGS THAT ARE STRETCHED THIN ON REGULAR BLUE SKY NORMAL DAY, IN TERMS OF SUISAN TELLS ROAD SYSTEM, ALL KNOW ROAD SYSTEM.

TRATRAFFIC IS BAD RUSH HOURS DHIES AND MEDICAL SYSTEM IS ALREADY, OVER TAXED.

WE KNOW THAT SO MANY OF THE SYSTEMS THAT WE DEPEND ON ARE FOOD SYSTEM OBVIOUSLY VERY FRAGILE OR THOSE THINGS ARE ONLY GOING TO BE, EXAMPLE AS ER BASED WHEN EXAM EXACERBATED DEALING WITH A DISASTER.

ROADWAYS ARE GOING TO BE STRETCHED EVEN MORE AND MEDICAL SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE OVER TAXED AND FOOD SYSTEM.

ALL OF THESE FRAGILE SYSTEMS THAT WERE ALL ALREADY AWARE OF, JUST ON A REGULAR DAY, GO BEING TO BE EVEN WORSE DURING A DISASTER.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR.

>>Yunji: GOES BACK TO HAVE A PLAN KNOW WHERE YOUR FAMILY IS GOING OF ALL THE THINGS YOU TELL US EVERY YEAR ADD WE ALL IGNORE.

>> WHEN YOU DO INTERVIEW, HAVE SOMETHING TO POINT TO.

14 DAYS.

DO THIS.

THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO RIGHT AWAY.

BUT IMPORTANT CONVERSATION ARE THE ONE WE'RE HAVING NOW.

WHAT ORGANIZING YOUR COMMUNITY GROUP.

GOING TO BE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND YOU MAY BE CUTS OFF.

NENEED TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS.

NOW IS THE TIME TO OR WHETHER YOU GO WITH FULL ROUTE, STARTING NONPROFIT ORGANIZED, RESILIENCE HUB OR AT LEAST MEET YOU'RE NEIGHBORS AND KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE, DO THEY NEED HELP, DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING THEY CAN OFFER YOU.

HOW WORK TOGETHER.

GOING TO BE THOSE COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET US THROUGH UNDER THESE DISASTERS.

>>Yunji: SUCH A GOOD POINT I WANT TO BRING IN BENJAMIN QUESTION.

NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

HOPING THAT YOU CAN EXPAND O THAT.

GUAM AND SAIP TSI ENDURED CATEGY 5 HURRICANES.

DAMAGE NOT CATASTROPHIC.

WHAT ARE THEY DOING THAT WORKS?

GUAM AND SAIPAN, HATE TO SAY IT.

CONCRETE BLOCK CONSTRUCTION.

THEY GET HIT AND THEY ARE PREPARED.

BUILD FOR THOSE STORMS AND THOSE STORMS EVENTS.

GO VISIT SEE IT.

>>Chair Cordero: SINGLE WALL CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE,.

>>Yunji: EARLIER CALLER HAD CALLED IN ABOUT, NOT SEEING THAT?

>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DESTROYED.

REBIT.

STRONGER.

AND REBUILT STRONGER.

WHAT HAPPENS WESTERN PACIFIC YOU SEE SO MANY TYPE TYPHOONS LEARNED AND PREPARED FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN LUCKY BUT ALSO MAKES US MORE FORRFRAGILE AND MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE IMPACT PA IT'S WHERE YOU GAVE THE EXAMPLE OF ALBIZIA TREES WITH AS WELL IN 2014.

IZ HE WILL HITTING BIG ISLAND, THAT THEY DIDN'T INNOVATE LOT OF WIND.

THESE TREES DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF BIG.

TREES GREW REALLY BIG.

BLEW DOWN CAUSE A LOT OF DAMAGE.

>>Yunji: EMAIL TO.

I LIVE IN HONOLULU URBAN COMMUNITY.

NEIGHBOR HAS TALL DRY GRASS AND WEEDS OTHER BUSHES AROUND HIS HOUSE.

PROPERTY BOARD BORDERS MINE.

YARD TERRIBLE FIRE HAZARD A. CAN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT MAKE A HO CALLS TO THE HOMEOWNER WARN ABOUT FIRE HAS CAUSED BY VEGETATION.

URGE THEM TO CONTROL THAT.

TOSS TO CLAY FIRST.

>> I MEAN THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY, TO DO SO.

IT'S THE WEATHER THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SEND THE INSPECTORS.

BUYER CHIEF CAN SAY, YOU WERE IN VIOLATION OF THIS CODE LIKE YOU'RE CAUSING HAZARD.

THEY CAN KIND OF DICTATE.

FOLLOW THE SET.

NO.

FPA1, FIRE CODE ON THE BOOKS.

THAT REALLY GIVES FIRE DEPARTMENT ABILITY TO SAY, YEAH, YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

POSING A THREAT TO YOUR NEIGHBOR INCOMES BACK TO PROBLEM OF CAPACITY.

AND IN CHARGE OF INSPECTING FIRE ALARMS, FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.

ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS THE V VEGETATION.

AWARENESS OF THAT RISK REALLY GOOD, POSES BIG CHALLENGE FOR THEM.

TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND FIGURE OUT AND HELP EVERYBODY.

ABOUTS BACK DO I THINK TALK ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORS.

OTHER THING THAT'S FIRE SCIENCE STUFF, REALLY SHOWS WELL, MORE HOMES ADAPT THOSE PRACTICES, SAFER THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS I WOULD IMAGINE VERY SIMILAR FOR STORM PREPAREDNESS.

MORE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD READY FOR THIS, LESS PEOPLE THAT LESS NEEDY THEY WOULD BE BE.

TALK ABOUT THE FIREWISE COMMUNITY PROGRAM IS KIND OF THE EXAMPLE OF THAT.

WHERE YOU TRYING TO ORGANIZE AT THAT LEVEL.

TO GET EVERYONE ELSE TO ADOPT IT.

THAT'S ANOTHER ANGLE TO TAKE.

JOHN WAS SAYING, KIND OF TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT.

IF THEY LIVE THERE.

WHAT'S GOING ON.

BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THEY CAN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACT, FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN'T GO OUT AND START KNOCKING WEEDS DOWN AND EVERYBODY YARDS.

>>Yunji: LET'S BUILD ON THAT.

YOU'VE DONE THAT OBVIOUSLY MUCH LARGER SCALE.

I DO LOVE WHAT JOHN SAYING.

ABOUT GET KNOW YOUR NATIVE NEIGS NOW BEFORE WE'RE IN A DISASTER AND RANDY ON TV TELL TELLING US TO EVACUATE.

HOW WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO START THOSE CONVERSATIONS?

BECAUSE THEY COULD BE SENSITIVE.

YOU'VE GOT TALL WEEDS.

GO CHOP THEM DOWN.

THAT IS NOT THE ATTACK YOU TAKE WHEN YOU FIRST KNOCK ON SOMEBODY SOMEONE'S DOOR.

>> NOT THE ATTACK YOU WANT.

REALLY AGREE, NOT THE TA CR.

K YOU WANT.

I THEY DO YOU IT, NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT'S NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS.

ONE, BEING AWARENESS OF IT.

THERE IS THE PROBLEM WE KNOW LOTS OF TIMES OLDER PEOPLE.

BO DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN YARD.

AND SO I BELIEVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER.

AND TRY TO SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT HAVE THESE PROBLEMS.

AND HELP THEM.

MAKE A CHANGE.

I THINK PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER IN NEIGHBORHOODS CAN SOLVE THAT.

AND JUST RAISING AWARENESS OF THE DANGER OF IT, I THINK IS IMPORTANT.

AND MAKE WE COULD DO THAT IN COMMUNITIES.

>>Yunji: I WANT TO GET BRING RANDY N TWO QUESTIONS HERE.

THEY TIE A FIRE.

GO TO YOU NEXTER.

CAN OCEAN WATER SYSTEM BE BUILT TO COMBAT FIRE THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITIES?

WE DO SEE THAT WHEN THERE ARE CERTAIN FIRES THAT WE SEE OCEAN WATER BEING SCOOPED UP BY A HELICOPTER AND TRAVEL TO.

TALKING ABOUT MUCH MORE ROBUST SYSTEM.

OF USING OCEAN WATER.

USING SEA WATER TO COMBAT FIRE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE R REALISTIC OR POSSIBLE?

>> I WOULDN'T REALLY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

HAWAII DEFINITELY NEED TO TALK TO FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR EXPERTISE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

I DON'T THINK SALTWATER IS GOING THAT YOU WANT YOU TO NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU'RE USING SALTWATER KIND OF THING.

I THINK WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IN TERM OF OUR HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, TALKS ABOUT INSTALLING DROP BUCKETS WE CAN GET THE FRESHER WATER MAINTAIN THOSE AND SO THAT ACCESSIBLE TO THE HELICOPTERS AND READY WHEN WE NEED THEM.

>>Yunji: DO YOU WANT TO BUILD ON THAT?

ALSO A QUESTION HERE ABOUT GO-TOS.

EVERY TIME TO DO A SHOW WITH YOU PEOPLE.

GOATS PEOPLE WANT TO BRING IN THE GOATS.

NOT NECESSA NECESSARILY BAD IDE.

DROUGHT IN WESTERN MONDAY AT THAT.

BROUGHT MONDAYEN AT THAT A BROUGHT IN GOATS GOT RID OF THEM EATING THEM ALL.

>> EATING THE GOATS?

NO NOT EATING GOATS.

EATING FUEL.

ALL ABOUT GOATS.

A LITTLE BIT HERE RT HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HISTORY OF WATERSHED DEGRADATION NATIVE FOREST DEGRADATION.

HISTORY OF GOATS FERAL GOATS AND COWS SHEEP PLACE HE DON'T WANT THEM.

TALKING ABOUT VEGETATION AROUND NEIGHBORHOODS.

NO-BRAINER.

SCIENCE BACKS IT UP VERY WELL WORKING WITH OAHU GRAZERS, MY FRIEND AND MICHAEL AND WHO HAVE BEEN DOING SOME DEGREE OF CONTRACT GRAZING.

REALLY THEY DO GRAZING MOSTLY SOLSOSOLAR PANELS TRY TO BUILD S INDUSTRY HELP OTHER PRODUCERS GET INTO THIS.

BACKS UP SPEAKING WITH ABOUT EARLIER THE OF PAY THEM TO IT.

DOESN'T LIKE THE FUEL FULARE SOMETIMES.

DOESN'T COVER LIABILITY AND COST AND RISK THEY TAKE TO MOVE AN PALS WARNED.

SERVICE AN SA ANIMALS AROUND.

HOPE TO SEE MORE THEVMENTD WANT THEM CERTAIN AREAS NOT IN OWNER ERR OTHER AREAS.

>>Yunji: AXIS DEER WHAT CAN DO AND TROUBLE THAT'S LED TO ON MAUI.

>> BIG, BIG PROBLEMS.

>>Yunji: BRING YOU BACK ABOUT THE DROUGHT.

WE COULD SEE, BECAUSE YOU DID SAY THAT WE'RE HAVE A LOT RON AND COULD HAVE SOME SEVERE STORMS AN DROUGHT.

BEFORE WE GET TO QUESTION, HOW SEVERE OF A DOUBT ARE WE THINKING ABOUT EL NINO?

THIS ONE.

>> DRY, VERY DRY.

OBVIOUSLY EARLY TO TALK TOO MUCH.

THIS EVENT LOOKS LIKE SO STRONG DEVELOPING THAT ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.

SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD THAT DURING EL NINO, SUMMERS, USUALLY WETTER THAN NORMAL GET TO NORMALLY WET SEASON IT'S DRY.

AND WEATHER PATTERN WISE, TALK ABOUT EL NINO IMPACTS INTO THE WESTERN U.S., JUST NORTH PACIFIC STORMS TRACKING STRAIGHT ACROSS IMPACTING THEM.

VERY MUCH WEST TO EAST MOVE.

NOT DOWN TO OUR LATITUDE.

WE CLAY MENTIONED KONA LOWS.

HAD ALL THE FUN OF WET LA NENA WINTER TO GOING INTO EL NINO NEL NINO SUMMER.

INSTEAD DIPPING DOWN TO OUR AREA IMPACTING US, PASSED BY NORTH.

END OF RIDGE OVER US.

LIGHT WINDS.

NO RAIN.

PLUS SIDE USUALLY LYFT SURF ON THE NORTH SHORE.

A LOT OF SURFER.

LITTLE IN THE WAY OF RAINFALL.

>>Yunji: QUESTIONS HERE.

FROM SALLY.

HOW DO PEOPLE ON CATCHMENT SYSTEMS PREPARE FOR DROUGHT?

WE USUALLY DO NOT WORRY DURING THE NORMAL RAINY SEASON BUT SOUNDS WE MAY NOT HAVE ONE.

COMING JANUARY.

>> THAT IS WHERE INTERESTING, SOME OUR WEATHER SERVICE SENIOR LEADERSHIP COMING THROUGH HERE.

FLYING BACK FROM VISITING OFFICES IN GUAM AND MCCULLY ROW ONISHI YEAH.

TELL BEING MICRONESIA.

TELLING ME PLACE SELLING EXTRA CATCHMENT SYSTEMS.

HAVE A MUCHHAVE I ENCA CATCHMENR HOUSE AND INSTALLING SECOND ONE CATCH RAINFALL DURING ONGOING RAINY SEASON NOW.

HAVE IT ONCE RAIN SHUT OFF.

>>Yunji: INDIVIDUAL ACTUALLY STORING WATER?

>> SECOND HOME CATCHMENT SYSTEM.

THAT IS A LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS THAT IF WE ONLY WE COULD ASPIRE TO THAT.

SOUNDS GREAT.

OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT SOMEBODY DOES.

JUST KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THE CONSERVE WATER, GOOD IDEA ALL TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN BE EXTRA CONSCIOUS.

>> THINK KEY POINT TO THAT IS THAT PERSON IS REALLY DEVELOPING WHEN I LOOK TO CALL CIRCULAR ECONOMY.

BE ABLE TO, SO FEW RESOURCES WAY OUTER OAHU IN PAIRVEG.

WAYS YOU CAN BE RESOURCEFUL AND USE RESOURCE THAT YOU HAVE.

WAY OUT HERE IN THE PACIFIC.

CAPTURE THAT RESOURCE APPLY TO DISASTER PREPAREDNESS PLAN, THEN THAT IS DEFINITELY THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO.

THINKING THAT CIRCULAR WAY, BEING ABLE TO USE ALL THE RESOURCES TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

IS DEFINITELY THE WAY TO GO.

>>Yunji: QUESTION FROM JONAH FOR YOU.

I LIVE IN MAKIKI.

WANT TO BE PART OF RESILIENCE HUB.

HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN?

NOT SOMETHING HAPPENED OVERNIGHT.

WORK O THIS A LONG TIME.

FOR JONAH AND FOR OTHERS MAY BE WATCHING, HOW DO YOU GET STARTED?

>> I BELIEVE WE REALLY HAVE TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND GET COMMUNITY BEHIND IT.

BECAUSE IT SAY BIG EFFORT AND SO A LOCATING FINDING A PLACE THAT WILL BE APPROPRIATE IS EFFORT IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN GETTING THE RESOURCES TO ACTUALLY BEGIN TO BUILD A PLAN, PLANNING TAKES A LONG TIME.

AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH TWO ENVIRONMENTALS AND ALL KINDS PLANNING.

YOU KNOW, IT TAKES I MEAN WE'VE BEEN WORK ON THAT FOR AT LEAST 8 TO TEN YEARS.

AND SO IT'S HARD.

IT'S METHODICAL AND YOU HAVE TO THINK OF EVERY ANGLE.

AND SO YOU NEED ALL OF THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND BE WORKING ON IT.

I MEAN I DON'T HAVE A DAY GO BY IN MY COMMUNITY THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T SAY, HOW IS THE RESILIENCE HUB GOING?

AND I START GIVING PEOPLE UPDATES.

AND I GIVE UPDATES AT EVERY COMMUNITY MEETING.

>>.

THE AROUND IMPORTANT THING AND PEOPLE GET BEHIND IT.

THEY GET EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND THEY SUPPORT IT.

AND WE HAVE TO REALLY STRUGGLE ESPECIALLY SMALL VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

WE HAVE TO REALLY BE VERY CRAFTY AND FIND OTHER WAYS TO BRING MONEY IN.

WHETHER IT'S THROUGH PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS, OR FEDERAL MONEY, WHATEVER IT IS, WE REALLY HAVE TO SEARCH FOR THIS THAT MONEY.

>> SHE DIDN'T MENTION IT.

BUT BEING LITTLE HUNDRED.

ADVOCACY HUMBLE.

ADVOCACY PAVED WAY FOR, OPENING THIS DISCUSSION.

THESE RESILIENCY HUBS WERE A HUGE DISCUSSION POINT THROUGHOUT THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AT CITY COUNCIL.

SO PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.

SO IT'S A HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW.

NOW THE TIME TO REALLY START REACHING OUT TO YOUR STATE LEGISLATURE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND ADVOCATING FOR MORE OF WHAT SHE'S ALREADY DONE.

SHE'S DONE A LOT OF THE HARD WORK.

AND NOW WE JUST NEED MORE THE COMMUNITY TO BRING THE ISSUES FORWARD AND MOVE THAT BALL A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE FIELD.

>>Yunji: IF ONLY WE COULD COPY AND PASTE.

>> YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL, THEY ARE ALL FOR.

MY CITY COUNCILMAN PUT A OUR RESILIENCE HUB FORWARD AT THE CITY COUNCIL AND ASKED EVERYBODY TO SUPPORT IT.

THEY DID.

AND I WENT AROUND SHAKING EVERY CITY COUNCILMAN'S HAND EVERY ONE OF THEM WAS I WANT ONE INTO MY DISTRICT.

THEY DO WANT IT.

AND ACTUALLY JUST THE BILL RECENTLY.

THAT STILL GRAPPLING WITH THAT TO BUILD RESILIENCE HUBS INTO ALL THE DISTRICTS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY DO AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE EVERYBODY TO GET BEHIND IT.

NOT JUST COMMUNITIES BUT NOT TO HAVE OUR CITY BEHIND IT, GOT HAVE OUR STATE BEHIND IT.

EVERYBODY GOT TO DO THE RIGHT THINKER.

>>Yunji: ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU'RE BIDDING THIS IS POWER ISSUE THAT YOU MENTION QUESTIONER HERE FROM KNOW HE WILL BOUGHT A BATTERY POWERED RADIO.

THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GET WEATHER REPORTS.

HOW DO WE GET EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS FROM THE CITY OR THE STATE ABOUT WE DO NOT HAVE POWER?

JOHN AND THEN RANDY ON THAT ONE.

>> I'LL GO WITH SOUNDS LIKE A NO WEATHER RADIO.

THAT IS WE'VE BEEN PUSHING THAT ESPECIALLY SINCE MAWVMENT MARCH CONTINUOUS WEATHER BROADCAST FACE MASK RADIO GET A RECEIVER, THAT HEAR IT.

SET IN STAND BY AND WAKE YOU UP WHEN YOU PUT OUT A WARNING.

FM RADIO.

FOR NICE PROGRAMMABLE IF YOU WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THE FLOOD WATCH THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

ALERT YOU FOR THAT.

JUST WANT TO FLASH FLOOD WARNING SET IT FOR THAT TOO.

AND KOA HE THERE IS, SET IT TO WAKE YOU UP.

WHETHER IT MAKES A NOISE, OR THERE'S A ADAPTERS, FLASHLIGHTS OR SHAKE A BED, IF YOU CAN'T HEAR THE NOISE, ONE OF THOUGH KEY PIECES THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE.

AND THAT ISN'T NEARLY FAMILIAR ENOUGH.

>>Yunji: BUILDING ON THAT, I WOULD LOVE YOU TO ANSWER THIS TOO.

A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

BUT CAN'T THAT RESOURCES HELP DURING A DISASTER?

SEEMS LIKE KEY WAY TO COMMUNICATE AS FOR HELP AND GET FOR HELP.

SOCIAL MEDIA GOOD AND BAD.

GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S FOLKS ARE GETTING INFORMING FROM A TRUSTED SOURCE.

>> SOCIAL MEDIA IS HERE TO STAY.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GETTINGRY OF IT SOON.

GETTING RID OF T POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE THINGS.

MISINFORMATION GETTING SHARED ALL THE TIRE ARE.

REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO, SEEK OUT TRUSTED NEWS SOURCES.

CERTAINLY SEEK OUT THE GUNPOINT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM.

INSTAGRAM AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY NOT ONLY TO FOLLOW SHARE OUR TROPICAL FORCE GOING TO KNOW YOU'RE GETTING THAT STUFF DIRECTLY FROM US ALERTING AUTHORITY AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY.

ALSO LIKE TO JUST FURTHER ENDORSE NOAA RADIOS AND CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, ABOUT WHY THEY'RE SO GOOD VERSUS HEAR SO MANY TIMES ABOUT SIRENS.

SIRENS.

AND SIRENS ARE OUTDOOR WARNING SIRENS INTENDED TO A EARTH WILL PEOPLE OUTDOORS.

ALERT.

PEOPLE INSIDE SAYING I DON'T HEAR THE SIRENS.

OR WAITING NOT SIER SIRENS GO O. PLAY NOT HEAR THE SIRENS ESPECIALLY AMIDST FLOODING RAINS A AND THAT SORT OF THING.

NOAA WEATHER RADIO SMALL FOOTPRINT INSIDE HOME, BATTERY BACKED UP, IS GOING TO DO ALERT YOU IN YOUR HOME.

ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

AND THEN LASTLY, HNL ALERT.

GOING GOING IS WHERE YOU WANT TO GO.

SIGN UP HNL ALERT.GOV DIRECT TEXTS AM EMERGENCY OPERATION SIG ENTER, RISK AND IMMEDIATE ACTIONS WE WANT TO THE PUBLIC TO TAKE.

>>Yunji: WHERE DO I GET ANY NOAA RADIO.

>> ANY HARDWARE STORE.

USUALLY CARRY THEM.

ELECTRONICS STORES.

ORDER THEM ONLINE.

SOME GREAT BRANDS OUT THERE.

USUALLY ABOUT 20, THIRTY DOLLARS ENTRY LEVEL.

YOU CAN GET UP TO EXPENSIVE ONES TOO REEL G.E.T.

REALLY FANCY.

HAVE HAND CRANK YOU CAN POWER THEM.

BIG VARIETY, LOTS OF TRUSTED BRANDS OUT THERE.

>>Yunji: THINKING ABOUT FIRE RISK QUESTION HERE FROM MAUI.

GOLF COURSE AND THERE IS BECOME BIG ISSUE.

GOLF COURSES NEGLECTED MAINTAINING BRUSH SURROUNDING THEIR AREA.

SHOULD SHE BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE?

LARGE LAND OWNERS AS WELL.

>> PROBLEM NOT GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE POSSIBLY.

IF THERE'S A FIRE.

BUT RAISE REALLY IMPORTANT POINT.

ONE OF THOSE BEING AGRICULTURE ANOTHER EXAMPLE.

NOTICED GOLF COURSE OR CULTIVATED FIELD INTUITIVELY LOW FIRE RISK WHAT THE VEGETATION M MAINTAINED.

A THE RECENT FIRES LAHAINA INCLUDED WHERE THOSE SMALL BERMS, SMALL PASSAGES VEGETATIVE AREA ARE CAPABLE OF CARRYING FIRES.

SO AGAIN, GTS BACK TO IT LANDOWNER QUESTION.

LIABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY.

WHAT SORT OF CARROT OR STICK TAKE FOR PEOPLE TO ACT.

AREAS OF CONCERN.

>>Chair Cordero: POLITICAL QUESTION.

BUT THIS IS TOO.

RANDY, WHAT'S BEING DONE TO MOTIVATE DEVELOP DEVELOPERS TO BUILD MORE RESILIENT BUILD IS NOT PUTTING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ON GROUND FLOOR OF A HIGHRISE?

, CAN YOU SAY THAT.

>>Yunji: WHAT'S BEEN DONE TO MOTIVATE DEVELOPERS TO BUILD MORE RESILIENT BUILD IS NOT PUTTING CRAILT INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF A HIGH RISES.

CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ALL KIND ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

>> SURE.

>>Yunji: HOW EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FACTOR INTO THAT, I THINK WE WORK CLOSELY WITH DEPARTMENT AND REALLY ADOPTING THE NEWER BUILDING CODES.

THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE DEVELOPERS, ACIALARCHITECTS AND BUILDINGSER GOING TO U UP MAYBE NOT BEST PLACE ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NEAR THE BEACH OR WHATEVER, THAT TO PUT GENERATORS ON THE FIRST FLOOR YOU WANT TO MAYBE ELEVATE THOSE, SO THAT THEY CAN SURVIVE NINE OF FLOODING AND THAT SORT OF THING.

STILL POWER YOUR HOME.

SO FORTH.

SO JUST HAVING THAT MIND ABOUT ADAPTABILITY AND ABOUT RESILIENCE BUILDING YOUR BUILDINGS, SO THAT YOU'RE BUILDING IT TO WITHSTAND WIND, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ANTI-FRAGILE.

>>Yunji: WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME.

>> DO WANT TO HAVE A MOMENT TO GIVE EACH OF A FINAL THOUGHT.

WE HAVE A NICE MESSAGE HERE FROM BOB IN WAIKIKI.

PRESIDENT OF BUILDING ASSOCIATION BECAUSE OF OUR TONIGHT HE'S GOING TO ADD FIRE SAFETY PROTOCOLS TO BOARD OF DIRECTORS AGENDA TO ANTICIPATE HOW TO PREPARE THOR FEES TYPE OF EMERGENCIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THE DISCUSSION AND BRINGING TOPIC LIGHT SAY I THAT BECAUSE NOT ONLY PAT OURSELF ON BACK HAVING THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT, BUT THAT WE CAN ACT.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND BOB HAVING THAT ISSUE INITIAL DISCUSSION CAN BE VERY VALUABLE.

FINAL THOUGHT FROM EACH OF YOU, WITH FIRE AND EL NINO WE HAVE TO LIKE LONGTERM, ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES WE REALLY CAN ANTICIPATE DROUGHT NOW IT THE TIME TO GET PREPARED.

THANKS TO REST YOU HAVE BECAUSE I THINK EARN LERCH A LOT TOO.

C ConConnd FROMMING ISSUE WITH FIRE WHERE THAT RESPONSIBILITY SORT OF STARTS.

CONFRONTING.

STARTING AND STOP INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER VERSUS LANDOWNER PARCELS REALLY THINK, YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOUR OURSELVES GRACE AND PATIENT TO SOME THESE PROBLEM A WORK OUT PROBLEMS WHERE DOES THE RESPONSIBILITY FALL AS FAR AS TAKING ACTION GOVERNMENT OR HOMEOWNERS, THERE'S A LOT OF THIS LONGTERM PLANNING THAT GOES INTO THIS.

DOTTIE TAKE ON HASN'T HAPPENED YET.

STUFF ROLLING OUT.

BIT BY BIT.

SOMETIMES TOO SLOW.

>> IT'S NOT JUST DOTS I WHOLE TEAM OF PEOPLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT I HAVE NOAA RADIO LOVE MY NOAA RADIO.

HAD IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

BUT ONE THING THAT WE LEARNED FROM MAUI, WAS STAR LINK.

AND WE BECAUSE OF THAT, WE PURCHASED STAR LINK'S PUT THEM THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT OF KO'OLAULOA.

SO THAT EVERY COMMUNITY COULD HAVE THAT ACCESS TO WI-FI.

AND THEY CAN KEEP COMMUNICATING.

EVEN IF WE'RE NOT MAYBE GETTING COMMUNICATION FROM TOWN, THEY'RE GETTING COMMUNICATION FROM NEIGHBORS.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, I DON'T HAVE TO TELL ANYBODY HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS BEING THE KIDS ARE ON IT, WORKING WITH HIGH SCHOOL DID CITY CARDS AND KAHUKU.

TO SET UP, SOME HIGH SCHOOL KIDS SET UP COMMUNICATION FOR EMERGENCIES.

HELP US GET IT OUT, THEY LOVE THIS MUCH AND IT'S IMPORTANT YOU KNOW THE THEY CAN LEARN A LOT FROM IT.

AND TEACH OTHERS.

AND RAISE AWARENESS WITHIN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.

OF TEENAGERS.

>> GET INVOLVED AND BE PREPARED.

AND SO WHEN I SAY GET INVOLVED, THERE ARE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES HAVE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAMS.

COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE ONE, START ONE.

AND DEMPEWOLF PROVIDES SOME TRAINING, AND DEM PROVIDE IT'S TRAINING AND TEACHING COMMUNITIES HOW TO HELP THEMSELVES DURING THE TIME OF DISASTER YOU HAVE TO GET INVOLVED.

START THOSE TEAMS YOU HAVE TO BECOME PART OF THOSE TEAMS THAT ARE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

AND THEN BE PREPARED.

AND THAT'S PART OF BEING PREPARED.

BUT ALSO, HAVING A PLAN DON'T DEPEND SOLELY ON THE GOVERNMENT.

AND JUST HAVE THAT PLAN TO BE READY.

>>Yunji: FINAL WORD.

LESS THAN 30 SECONDS LEFT.

>> I CAN'T TALK ABOUT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WITHOUT MENTIONING NOT MESSAGESING HOMEOWNERS HANDBOOK TO PREPARE FOR NATURAL HEZB HANSEN'S DISEAE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII SEA GRANT COLLEGE PROGRAM.

>> PUBLICATION.

AVAILABLE VERSION 4 ON WEBSITE NOW.

WORKING ON A VERSION 5.

GREAT RESOURCE.

FOR ALL THE HANSEN'S DISEASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND MORE.

>>Yunji: WONDERFUL RESOURCE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO THE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS— JOHN BRAVENDER FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, AND RANDAL COLLINS, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FROM THE CITY AND COUNTY OF HONOLULU, AND COMMUNITY LEADER DOTTY KELLY-PADDOCK, AND CLAY TRAUERNICHT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII AT MANOA.

THE PRIMARY ELECTION IS SATURDAY.

NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS, WE WILL LOOK AT THE VOTE TOTALS FROM THE PRIMARY THAT SHAPED THE GENERAL ELECTION COMING IN NOVEMBER.

PLEASE JOIN US THEN.

I'M YUNJI DE NIES FOR INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAI‘I.

ALOHA!

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