- I feel like anti-Blackness can show up in more progressive, liberal spaces whenever you have to be a certain type of Black for your opinion to matter.

If you're a Black conservative, they might look at you as brainwashed, or, "Oh, you don't speak for the majority," or, you know, and that's anti-Black.

You're supposed to respect all Black voices, not just Black voices that you agree with.

So, for me, that's something I'll add really quick and- - Well, I think it's proper to take a little deeper dive on that because you do say, "Hey, you're aware, I am a Black conservative, right?"

Can you take us a little deeper into maybe how that anti-Blackness phrase may be used against you by Black people because of what you identify as politically?

- Yeah, I mean, I've had certain people call me anti-Black because I'm pro-life, and they're saying that I don't care about Black women, Black maternal health rates and things, and that's not the case at all.

I just feel like we kind of forget as Americans, as people in general, we're individuals.

We can have our own thoughts when it comes to things.

I've been told I'm anti-Black because of who I voted for.

I'm anti-Black because... I mean, my certain thoughts on different topics, I'm anti-Black.

But at the end of the day, I have a Black husband, a Black child.

My family's Black.

All my grandparents are Black.

You know, I'm as Black as you can be.

The only thing that separates me from the majority of other Black people, or I guess of what's respected nowadays, it's just the way I vote, and that's it.

- [Jerome] Okay.

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