JIM: ALL RUN-DOWN OF THE MAJOR RACES IN RHODE ISLAND, WITH LESS THAN TWO WEEKS TO GO BEFORE ELECTION DAY.

AND THE CONTROL OF CONGRESS IS IN THE BALANCE.

AS ALAN FUN'’S RACE A MICROCOSM FOR WHAT IS GOING ON NATIONALLY?

>> "A LIVELY EXPERIMENT" IS GENEROUSLY UNDERWRITTEN BY -- >> FOR OVER 30 YEARS, WE HAVE PROVIDED INSIGHT AND ANALYSIS OF POLITICAL ISSUES THAT FACE RHODE ISLANDERS.

I AM A GREAT SUPPORTER OF THIS GREAT PROGRAM AND RHODE ISLAND PBS.

>> JOINING US ON THE PANEL IS BILL LYNCH.

THE CHAIRMAN OF THE -- THE FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

THE BOSTON GLOBE REPORTER ED FITZPATRICK.

AND REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST LISA PELOSI.

WITH ELECTION ON THE NEAR HORIZON, THE ENERGY AMONG CANDIDATES IN RHODE ISLAND'’S TOP RACES HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY WITH CANDIDATES TOUTING ENDORSEMENTS AND NEW ADS FLOODING THE AIRWAVES.

THE ONLY NEW POLL WILL BE NOVEMBER 8.

IT LOOKS TIGHT FOR SEVERAL KEY RACES.

LISA, LET'’S START WITH THE CD2 RACE.

WE ARE NOT SURE BECAUSE OF THE RPI -- LOOKS LIKE IT IS TIGHTENING A LITTLE BIT.

LISA: IT IS.

WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AFTER THIS SUMMER IS VOTERS ARE BEING ATTENTION TO WHAT IS GOING ON.

WITH THE ELECTION A HANDFUL OF DAYS AWAY, THEY HAVE TO START THINKING, WHO DO I WANT TO VOTE FOR?

WE WERE EXPECTING TO SEE THIS RACE TO BE TIGHT BUT IT IS IN FAVOR FOR ALAN F. FOR MANY REASONS.

NOT ONLY IS HE AHEAD, HE HAS RUN TWICE AS GOVERNOR, HE HAS BEEN A HIGH-PROFILE MAYOR, PEOPLE KNOW HIM.

I'’M LOOKING FOR ALL THAT MONEY THAT IS COMING IN FROM THE REPUBLICANS IN NATIONAL REPUBLICANS.

IF THEY CAN GET OUT THE VOTE, HE CAN BE OUR WINNER.

>> I THINK IT'’S CLOSE.

I REMEMBER BEING HERE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN THE RACE WAS FOR STARTING AND WE SAID THEN THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE CLOSE, CD2 IS DIFFERENT THAN CD1 IN TERMS OF MAKEUP.

NOW YOU'’RE DOWN TO THE FINAL COUPLE OF WEEKS.

THE INDEPENDENTS, HOWEVER MANY THERE ARE, 8% TO 10%, I THINK ARE REALLY GOING TO START TO FOCUS IN ON THE FACT THAT THIS IS CONGRESS, IT'’S NOT A GOVERNORS RACE.

THE ONE ISSUE IS ALAN FUNG IF HE WINS IS GOING TO VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL PARTY, KEVIN MCCARTHY, MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE, THAT GROUP IS GOING TO RUN CONGRESS AND THEY ARE GOING TO RUN ON A PLATFORM THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY DISCLOSED, WHICH IS COMPLETELY IN OPPOSITION TO WHAT PEOPLE IN RHODE ISLAND THINK.

I THINK WHEN PEOPLE FOCUS ON THAT, THERE'’S BEEN MUCH MORE TALK ABOUT THAT NOW IS A POST EARLIER IN THE CAMPAIGN, THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT FUNG HAS.

SETH CONTINUES TO DO A GOOD JOB OF THE SCRUBBING TO PEOPLE THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN RUNNING FROM GOVERNOR -- RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR.

I THINK THE REPUBLICANS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE BACK THE HOUSE.

THEY'’RE GOING TO SAY, THEY ONLY NEED ONE VOTE FROM ALAN FUNG.

AFTER THAT, THEY WILL PAT HIM ON THE BACKEND SAY YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST A NATIONAL ABORTION BAN AND THE AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE.

YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST CAPS AGAINST INSULIN AND OTHER PERCEPTION DRUGS.

THEY ARE GOING TO WIN ON ALL THOSE ISSUES.

THAT'’S THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT RACE.

>> IT'’S DIFFICULT TO HAVE NATIONAL ATTENTION SHOWING HOW REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO PICK UP -- FLIP A BLUE SEA RIGHT HERE IN RYLAND.

YOU HAVE SEEN THIS RACE ON THE NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST.

WE HAD FIRST LADY JILL BIDEN IN TOWN FOR MAGAZINER THE OTHER DAY.

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS POURED INTO THIS RACE.

THEY DID NOT PULL FOR THE -- POLL FOR THE MODERATE CANDIDATE.

THE BOSTON GLOBE HAD HIM AT 5%.

THE RISK COULD BE THAT CLOSE.

IT'’S GOING TO MATTER.

>> WHO DOES HE TAKE AWAY FROM?

>> IT IS SO HARD TO TELL.

I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE CROSSTABS.

I THINK THOSE PEOPLE VOTING, THEY MAY NOT KNOW BILL GILBERT, THEY SEE THE WORD MODERATE, I THINK IT COULD TAKE FROM BOTH, IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY CLOSE RACE.

>> I THINK SOME VOTERS JUST DON'’T LIKE THE NEGATIVE ADS, THE NEGATIVE BACK-AND-FORTH.

>> THEY ARE ALL NEGATIVE.

>> THEY COULD VOTE FOR GILBERT ONLY FOR THAT FACT.

HERE'’S THE THING, WE KNOW THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO WIN THE HOUSE IN NOVEMBER.

START WITH THAT.

WE KNOW THE REPUBLICANS WANT THE SEATS BECAUSE IT IS IN DEMOCRAT HANDS FOR THE PAST 22 YEARS.

THEY VERY MUCH WANTED TO SHOW THE SYMBOL -- THIS SYMBOL OF WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE A STRONG SEAT IN A DEMOCRAT STATE.

BUT HERE'’S THE THING, ALAN IS GOING TO GET A COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENT IF HE WINS, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY EXPECT IF SETH MAGAZINER WINS, HE'’S GOING TO BE ON, WHAT IS THE WORST COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE?

THAT'’S WHAT HE WILL BE PUT ON.

THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE FOR RHODE ISLANDERS.

HE NEEDS TO BE PUT ON A COMMITTEE THAT IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR RHODE ISLAND.

>> THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.

ALAN FUNG IS GOING TO GO DOWN, I THINK LISA IS RIGHT, I THINK THE REPUBLICANS WILL TAKE BACK THE HOUSE.

HIS VERY FIRST VOTE, AND I'’VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, IS GOING TO BE FOR THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP IN THE HOUSE, WE KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

WE KNOW WHAT THEIR PLAN IS.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SECRETIVE ABOUT IT.

GETTING RID OF THESE THINGS CRUCIAL TO RHODE ISLANDERS.

THEY'’RE GONNA SAY, WE KNOW YOU HAVE A TOUGH SITUATION IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU CAN VOTE AGAINS THESE THINGS AS LONG AS YOU WILL FOR THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP.

WE'’RE GOING TO GET RID OF THESE CAPS ON PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND HE IS GOING TO VOTE ON ALL OF THOSE BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THE VOTES TO WIN ANYWAY.

>> FRY MADE A GREAT POINT HERE LAST WEEK, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CROSS RESULTS.

IN THE 2018 ELECTION, WHEN HE RAN FOR GOVERNOR, HE CAME THIS CLOSE TO WINNING CD2.

HE WAS RIGHT THERE WITH GOVERNOR RAIMONDO.

IF HE CAN TAKE WARWICK, [INDISCERNIBLE] TO BE ABLE TO TAKE IT.

>> HE FREE -- >> HE BEATS RAIMONDO IN 2002 AND LAWSON 2018.

HE'’S A FORMER MAYOR OF CRANSTON.

I THINK MAGAZINER DID START WITH LESSER CONDITION -- WITH LESS RECOGNITION THEN HIM IN CD2.

-- THAN HIM IN CD2.

>> IT'’S INTERESTING WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE NEGATIVE ADS, ALAN FUNG HAS TRIED TO RUN THE POSITIVE.

BUT THE PACTS HAVE COME IN.

YOU WONDER WHETHER THE VOTERS LUMP THAT ALL IN AND THE CANDIDATES SAY, I'’M NOT COORDINATING WITH THE PACTS.

SOME DO.

YOU WONDER IF VOTERS SEE ALAN RUNNING NEGATIVE ADS.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NEGATIVE ADS, YOU THINK THEY CAN DISTANT WISH ALL THAT?

>> I THINK PEOPLE KNOW ALAN WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT HE'’S NOT THIS EXTREME MAGA RADICAL RIGHT REPUBLICAN.

AND I DON'’T KNOW ABOUT YOU.

I LOVE THIS TIME OF YEAR.

I LOVE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS WITH IT.

BUT I'’M NOW FAST FORWARDING THROUGH ALL THE COMMERCIALS AND MAILERS COMING IN.

I'’M JUST THROWING THEM RIGHT IN THE RECYCLING BIN.

AS MUCH AS THEIR POURING MONEY INTO IT, I'’VE ALREADY MADE UP MY MIND.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE, TOO.

I DON'’T THINK THESE NEGATIVE ADS IN THE FLYERS ARE GOING TO MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE THESE LAST NUMBER OF DAYS.

>> HERE'’S THE PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THIS COMES UP EVERY ELECTION.

YOU ASK ANYBODY, THEY WILL SAY, I HATE NEGATIVE ADS.

THEY ACTUALLY LIKE THEM.

NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, WHETHER WE WANT TO ADMIT THAT OR NOT, THEY WERE TO SOME EXTENT.

-- WORK TO SOME EXTENT.

SOME HAVE BACKFIRED IN CERTAIN RACES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN THE INDUSTRY, IF NEGATIVE ADS DID NOT MOVE NUMBERS OR AT LEAST DEFINE GROUPS OF PEOPLE, THEY WOULD NOT USE THEM.

SO THERE'’S A REASON THEY ARE RUNNING, WHETHER YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT.

>> THERE ARE TWO DEBATES COMING UP NEXT WEEK BUT ARE GOING TO BE PIVOTAL.

-- THAT ARE GOING TO BE PIVOTAL.

YOU CAN SEE THE CANDIDATES ARE ALREADY SICK OF EACH OTHER, THE NEGATIVE ADS, THE FRICTION.

PEOPLE ARE TUNING IN RIGHT NOW.

THE NEGATIVE ADS DO WORK.

>> THE NEXT RACE IS KALUS DAN MCKEE --KALUS AND MCKEE.

THEY MADE IT THIS BIG BUILDUP.

>> LOOK EVERY ELECTION CYCLE, THERE'’S ALWAYS A LITTLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT SAY DEMOCRATS FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE.

THE LIST WAS NOT STELLAR.

I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE -- SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT LIST ARE PRO-LIFE DEMOCRATS.

AND ASHLEY KALUS -- I GET IN TROUBLE FOR CALLING HER ASHLEY CLUELESS -- ASHLEY KALUS IS DEFINED AGAINST A WOMAN'’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, PRO-LIFE CANDIDATE, AND WE DO HAVE DEMOCRATS WHO THAT IS A MAJOR AND SOMETIMES SOLE VOTING ISSUE FOR THEM.

THOSE WERE SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT LIST.

IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL RACE, I DON'’T WANT TO SAY IT IS AMUSING TO ME, BUT WHEN LISA WAS AROUND, IF I CAME ON THIS PROGRAM BACK THEN AND SAID, I CAN'’T GET A DEMOCRAT FROM RHODE ISLAND TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR AGAINST THE GOVERNOR, BUT I FOUND SOMEBODY WHO IS A MILLIONAIREY FROM ILLINOIS WHO HAVE CONVINCED TO COME TO RHODE ISLAND AND REGISTER TO VOTE IN RHODE ISLAND QUICKLY, BUY A SECOND HOUSE HERE, AND SHE'’S GOING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR, BECAUSE SHE'’S GOT $4 MILLION, YOU WOULD HAVE LEFT ME OUT OF THE STUDIO INCORRECTLY SO -- LAUGHED ME OUT OF THE STUDIO, INCORRECTLY SO.

MICKEY HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

-- MCKREE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

TOOK OVER ONE OF THETOUGHEST TIMES IN RHODE ISLAND HISTORY AND DONE GOOD JOB IN A VERY I THINK THE ECONOMY IS SLOWLY TURNING AROUND.

I THINK HE'’S DONE A GREAT JOB ON THE VACCINATION PROGRAM.

GETTING RID OF THE CAR TAX FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MILD TO LIFE.

I DIDN'’T GET A BILL FOR A CAR TAX THIS YEAR.

-- FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE.

AND HIS OPPONENT HAS DONE NOTHING BUT ATTACKING MEN CRITICIZING MEN CALL HIM A CRIMINAL.

ON AND ON.

WITH NO DEFINED PLAN THAT I'’VE SEEN ABOUT ANYTHING.

I THINK THAT RHODE ISLAND IS NOT GOING TO ELECT DAN MCKEE CONVERTIBLE BY THE WAY.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PO LL RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE ONE POLE WAS DONE EARLY IN OCTOBER.

--POLL WAS DONE EARLY IN OCTOBER.

I WONDER WHETHER THE 10 POINTS IS NARROW FOR HER.

>> HOW ARE POLL CAME OUT OCTOBER 11TH I BELIEVE, IT DID LOOK AT WHETHER DEMOCRATS ARE SUPPORTING MCKEE -- BOTH WERE HOLDING BASE IS REALLY SOLID.

HE 5% BOTH RIGHT ON THE NOSE.

-- 85% BOTH RIGHT ON THE NOSE.

KALUS HAD BEEN DOING WELL WITH INDEPENDENT.

-- WITH INDEPENDENTS.

THAT IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE SOME MOVEMENT IN THE HOME STRETCH.

>> YOU WANT TO GIVE THE ALTERNATE VIEW HERE?

[LAUGHTER] >> SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT LINCOLN A.

>> WHEN IT HER MOM ARE THE PRIMARY THAT HAPPENED IN SPTEMBER, TWO OUT OF THREE DEMOCRATS THAT CAME OUT TO NOT VOTE FOR GOVERNOR MCKEE.

NUMBER TWO, HIS HOMETOWN OF CUMBERLAND HE DIDN'’T EVEN GET 50% THERE.

NUMBER THREE, HIS APPROVAL RATINGS ARE PRETTY LOW.

AND THEY ARE PROBABLY ON PAR WITH JOE BIDEN'’S APPROVAL RATINGS WHICH ARE PRETTY LOW.

SO START WITH THAT.

WE HAVE A CANDIDATE WHO GREW UP IN MASSACHUSETTS, DECIDED TO COME TO RHODE ISLAND, BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO HELP WITH THE COVID VACCINATION AND TESTING, THEN DECIDED TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR.

SHE HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT SHE DOES NOT WANT TO OVERTURN ROE V WADE, SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT SHE DOESN'’T HAVE A WOMAN'’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, SHE'’S NOT RUNNING ON CHANGING THAT HERE IN RHODE ISLAND.

SO, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A STRONG REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE WHO IS SELF FINANCED, WHO WAS FAR AS I CAN SEE WATCHING HER ON SOCIAL MEDIA IS OUT THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE.

I DO THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, THE NUMBERS ARE CLOSING IN, THE VOTERS HAVE TO PAY MORE ATTENTION.

IN THE END, THEY ARE GOING TO DECIDE, DO WE WANT TO STAY WITH GOVERNOR MCKEE OR CHANGE THE DIRECTION THAT THE STATE IS GOING IN AND CHOOSE ASHLEY KALUS ?

>> THE TWO THIRDS THAT VOTE FOR GOVERNOR MCKEE, THAT IS IN A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.

I GET THAT.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO REPUBLICAN-DEMOCRAT, THAT IS THE ISSUE.

THEY MAY HAVE WANTED GORE BAY OR WHATEVER, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO CHOOSE ASHLEY KALUS OVER THE DEMOCRAT AT THE END?

THAT IS A SIX HE THOUSAND DOLLAR QUESTION.

>> I DO WANT TO COUNT ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ASHLEY KALUS IS CLEARLY UNQUESTIONABLY PRO-LIFE END AGAINST A WOMAN'’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE.

WHEN LISA SAYS, SHE SAID -- WHAT ASHLEY SAID WAS THAT THAT THAT IS A LOT IN RHODE ISLAND RIGHT NOW AND I DON'’T PLAN ON DOING ANYTHING TO CHANGE THAT, MEANING A WOMAN'’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, THAT IS THE SAME THING THAT ALITO SAID TO TED KENNEDY AND THAT IS THE SAME THING THAT AMY CONEY BARRETT SAID WHEN SHE WAS FRANTIC ON THE SUPREME COURT, AND THE SAME THING BRETT KAVANAUGH SAID IN THE FIRST THING THEY DID WAS TO OVERTURN ROBIE WEIGHT.

SO THOSE ARE WEASEL WORDS.

FROM ASHLEY KALUS, WITH RESPECT WE WOMAN HAVING THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE IN MY OPINION.

NUMBER TWO, SHE DID IT TO SUCCUMB TO RHODE ISLAND FOR ANY GREAT REASON.

SHE CAME BECAUSE SHE HAD A COMPANY THAT UNDERBID TO GET A JOB IN RHODE ISLAND TO HANDLE AND ASSIST IN THE VACCINATION PROGRAM.

THERE WERE SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH HER COMPANY, BECAUSE AS SOON AS SHE GOT THE BID, SHE CAME HERE, DIDN'’T HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE, AND EVENTUALLY THAT CONTRACT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY COMPLAINTS FROM RHODE ISLANDERS WITH RESPECT TO HAVE HER COMPANY WAS RUNNING.

HERS IS THE ONLY COMPANY BY THE WAY THAT LOST THE CONTRACT AND WAS REMOVED FROM THE VACCINATION PROGRAM.

EVEN WHEN SHE WAS REMOVED, SHE HAD HER EMPLOYEES STEALING THE EQUIPMENT OF THE COMPANY -- THE RHODE ISLAND COMPANY THAT WAS BROUGHT IN TO FIX THE PROBLEMS SHE CAUSED.

>> RESPOND TO THAT AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON.

>> HERE WE GO AGAIN.

HER CONTRACT WAS THE LOWEST.

YOU SAID SHE UNDERBID.

IT WAS THE LOWEST, SHE WAS CHOSEN, IT WAS RENEWED.

IN THE END, ONCE IT STARTED BEING KNOWN THAT SHE WAS CONSIDERING MAY BE RUNNING FOR POLITICAL OFFICE, ALL OF A SUDDEN, HER CONTRACT DOES NOT GET RENEWED, AND THE GOVERNOR -- THEN IT CONTRACT GOES TO SOMEONE THAT THE GOVERNOR KNOWS WITH HIS COUNTRY CLUB.

SO THE CONNECTION THERE.

I'’M NOT HERE TO DEFEND ASHLEY KALUS.

BUT I DO THINK SHE IS GIVING VOTERS A STRONG CHOICE THIS NOVEMBER.

>> A COUPLE OF OTHER RACES -- THE TREASURERS RACE, WITH THE BACKING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, LATHROP HAS THE STRONGER FINANCIAL BACKGROUND.

BRIAN HAS AN INTERESTING STORY, I KNOW HE'’S BEEN AROUND, ABOUT HIS TRIPS, HE'’S BEEN FLYING ALL OVER THE WORLD.

I DON'’T KNOW ULTIMATELY WHETHER THAT RESONATES WITH VOTERS.

I DON'’T HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHETHER LATHROP'’S BACKGROUND IS GOING TO PUT THEM CLOSER IN THE RACE.

>> HE WON AGAINST STEFAN PRIOR.

>> HE DID PRETTY WELL.

>> BRIAN E., MY COLLEAGUE HAD A STORY FOCUSING ON THE EXTENT OF HIS TRAVEL.

HE PROVIDED THE CONTEXT, SHOWING IT IS MORE THAN ORDINARY.

HE MIGHT GO TO A NATIONAL CONFERENCE, A MERE STING -- A MAYORS'’ THING.

HE WAS TRAVELING OVER THE WORLD.

HE SHOWED, GIVEN THE CONTEXT, IT WAS OUT OF THE ORDINARY.

>> WATCHING THIS RACE, AND AGAIN WE HAVE BEEN SO FOCUSED ON THE OTHER RACES, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT GOING ON.

THE MAYOR HAS RUN AND LOST STATEWIDE.

>> YOU SAID YOU WERE FAST FORWARDING THROUGH ALL THE COMMERCIALS.

[LAUGHTER] >> I THINK THE OTHER DAY, THE WORKPAPER CAME OUT AND ENDORSED LATHROP, WHICH I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE THAT.

THE THING THAT GOT ME THE MOST WAS DURING THE PRIMARY, WHEN JAMES SAID HE DOESN'’T HAVE HIS OWN 401(K), I THOUGHT COMMODORE REALLY WANT TO VOTE FOR SOMEBODY TO OVERSEE A $10 BILLION PENSION SYSTEM, WHEN PERSONNEL YOU DON'’T EVEN HAVE YOUR OWN?

I THINK VOTERS REALLY NEED TO TAKE A PAUSE AND DECIDE WHO IS A BETTER EXPERIENCED PERSON TO RUN THIS PENSION.

>> I THOUGHT THE MOST SURPRISING ENDORSEMENT OF LATHROP CAYMAN COUNCIL 94.

-- CAME IN COUNCIL 94.

>> THINK THE TWO CANDIDATES ARE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM DIFFERENT PARTIES.

DIASA, WHY AM SUPPORTING AND HAVE KNOWN FOR MANY YEARS, CAME UP LIKE MOST RHODE ISLANDERS, TODD SCRABBLE FOUGHT HIS WAY THROUGH, HAS BECOME A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS, RAN FOR OFFICE IN A VERY DIFFICULT TIME, IN A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION IN CENTRAL FALLS.

I THINK DID A FANTASTIC JOB.

I LIVE IN THE BLACKSTONE VALLEY SO I FOLLOWED THAT PRETTY CLOSELY.

DID A GREAT JOB THERE.

IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING A 401(K) OR BEING A MILLING, HE'’S LED MOST OF THE PEOPLE HE WANTS TO REPRESENT AS GENERAL TREASURER.

I DON'’T THINK THAT IS UNUSUAL.

I THINK THE JOB IS TO RELY ON THE EXPERTS.

I DON'’T THINK EITHER OF THEM WOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE EXPERT TO ONE, RUN A WALL STREET FIRM, BUT THAT'’S NOT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE TREASURERS OFFICE.

SOME OF THE BEST WE HAVE HAD -- TAVARES WAS A FANTASTIC TREASURER, HE DID NOT HAVE A TON OF FINANCIAL EXPERIENCE, BUT HE WAS PHENOMENAL TO LOOK FOR THE MOST TALENTED AND QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND THAT IS WHAT HE WILL DO AS GENERAL TREASURER AND I THINK THAT IS WHY HE WENT.

>> I WAS TELLING ED IN THE GREEN ROOM BEFORE HERE, WHICH WE HAD THE MASTER LEVER FOR REPUBLICANS, BECAUSE IF THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR ALAN -- >> WAIT A MINUTE.

[OVERLAPPING CHATTER] YOU'’VE GOT SUE HAVING AN ANEURYSM RIGHT NOW, IF THEY WERE VOTING FOR THE REPUBLICANS.

>> I GET YELLED AT FOR YEARS ON THIS PROGRAM.

>> YOU NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD HEAR THAT, DID YOU?

>> I DO WANT TO TALK NATIONAL.

LET'’S TO OUTRAGES AND KUDOS.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE?

>> I JUST WATCHED THIS DOCUMENTARY CALLED "NO TIME TO FAIL," ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION AND THE RHODE ISLAND ELECTION OFFICIALS IN CENTRAL FALLS PROVIDENCE AND CRANSTON, AND OTHER PRESSURES THEY FACE BETWEEN THE PANDEMIC AND HAVING THE PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP AT THE TIME, FLOATING THESE FALSE ELECTION IDEAS OUT THERE AND ALL THE PRESSURE DAY FACED -- THEY FACED, UNDERSCORE THE THREATS AND CHRIS HIM THEY WERE FACING.

I THINK THAT IS MY OUTRAGE.

YOU HAVE TO IGNITE HOW HARD THESE NONPARTISAN ELECTION -- WORKERS -- >> AND HOW MANY WERE LOSING OVER THE COUNTRY.

>> AND THE EXIT IS OF THEM AS A RESULT.

-- EXODUS OF THEM AS A RESULT.

A LOT OF CRITICISM.

>> I'’M GOING TO KEEP THINGS ALL THINGS ASHLEY.

I THINK A LOT OF HER CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN I THINK VERY NEGATIVE ATTACKING MCKEE.

A LOT OF NAME CALLING.

AN APPROPRIATE -- NOT APPROPRIATE.

I DON'’T LIKE WHEN YOU'’RE CALLING PEOPLE CRIMINALS AND CORRUPT WAS NO PROOF.

THAT IS CROSSING THE LINE.

WE NOW FIND OUT VERY RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST TWO DAYS THAT ASHLEY'’S FORMER BEST FRIEND IN ILLINOIS, WHO SHE SOLICITED TO GO INTO BUSINESS WITH HER, IS NOW SUING ASHLEY IN ILLINOIS FOR FRAUD.

IF YOU READ BETWEEN THE LINES AND READ WITH THAT STORY IS ALL ABOUT, BOTH IN THE GLOBE AND IN THE LOCAL MEDIA, THEN IT PRESENTS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PICTURE OF SOMEONE WHO TELLS US THAT WE SHOULD TRUST HER, WHEN SHE CAN'’T EVEN BE TRUSTED TO DEAL WITH HER BEST FRIEND AND FORMER BUSINESS PARTNER IN ILLINOIS.

IT IS MY OUTRAGE.

>> WE WERE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEGATIVE ADS.

I WANT TO CONTINUE THAT.

I KNOW POLITICS IS A BLOODSPORT.

YOU CAN'’T BE THIN-SKINNED.

BUT IT'’S LEGITIMATE TO BRING A CAMPAIGN TO BRING OUT SOMEONE'’S CARPET BAG -- WE ARE HEARING IT A PENNSYLVANIA AND RHODE ISLAND, WE HAVE SEEN IN CD2, WITH MAGAZINER, WITH KALUS.

THERE ARE CERTAIN NEGATIVE ADS, SOME OUCH, SOME GO OVER THE LINE.

THE ONE THAT SAYS KALUS IS NOT ONE OF US IS OUT OF THE LINE.

IT IS ALMOST LIKE A XENOPHOBIC STATE.

WE DON'’T WANT YOU HERE.

THE COOL KIDS SAYING TO THE NEW KIDS ON THE BLOOD, YOU DON'’T BELONG HERE.

IT IS A REALLY UGLY AG.

-- IT IS A REALLY UGLY AD.

IMAGINE IF REPUBLICANS RAN THAT AGAINST OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL.

YOU WONDER WHY PEOPLE DON'’T RUN FOR OFFICE.

>> LET'’S GO TO NATIONAL.

ED, WITH FEDERMAN AND OZ, J.D.

VANCE, HERSCHEL WALKER, IT WILL BE INTERESTING, IF IT DOES GO REPUBLICAN, YOU WONDER HOW THAT LOOKS FOR GOVERNANCE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

AND ACTUALLY WHETHER THAT BILL MAY SAY THIS, THAT IF THE REPUBLICANS HAD THE KEY TO THIS -- EVERYBODY THINKS YOU RUN REPUBLICAN AND INFLATION IS GOING TO COME DOWN AND GAS WILL BE TWO DOLLARS A GALLON BY DECEMBER.

HOW THAT IS GOING TO REVERBERATE WITH VOTERS IN 2024.

>> YEAH.

I THINK THAT EVEN IF WE DO SEE ALAN F. WIN THIS YEAR, ALL EYES ARE GOING TO BE ON WHAT HAPPENS THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THE FIRST REELECTION CAMPAIGN COULD BE VERY CONTENTIOUS.

>> BILL.

>> WHAT I SAID EARLIER, WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAVE OFFICE AS WE SIT HERE, BUT THERE COULD BE A SEAT CHANGE IN WASHINGTON.

I THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS WILL HOLD ONTO THE SENATE.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT.

THERE WERE SOME RACES THAT EVERYBODY HAS FOCUSED ON AND COULD CHANGE THAT.

WE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THINGS DON'’T LOOK REALLY OVERLY OPTIMISTIC FOR THE DEMOCRATS ON THE HOUSE SIDE.

THE QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS THEN?

CAMPAIGNING IS FUN BUT THEN THE ELECTIONS COME AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GOVERN.

AND WE HAVE SEEN IN WASHINGTON BOTH IN THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP, SENATOR SCOTT AND THE REPUBLICAN LEADERS ON THE SENATE SIDE, AND WE KNOW ABOUT KEVIN MCCARTHY AND THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS AND THEY MADE NO SECRET ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.

IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN ELECTION DAY.

IT'’S GOING TO BE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT.

I KNOW I MENTIONED SOME OF THE THINGS EARLIER THAT THEY'’VE SET ARE ON THE TABLE.

INCLUDING BY THE WAY MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY.

THAT IS WHERE I GET BACK TO THE FUNG-MAGAZINER RACE, IF REPUBLICANS TAKE CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, HEALTH IS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK.

>> IT'’S NOT LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO GET RID OF SOCIAL SECURITY.

YOU CAN'’T DO THAT.

>> BUT WHY DO WE WANT TO EVEN PUT IT ON THE TABLE?

?

YEAR AFTER YEAR?

?

THAT'’S WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT?

-- THAT'’S WHAT THEY'’RE TALKING ABOUT.

THEY CAN SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET RID OF IT BUT THEY WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS THAT ARE DEVASTATING TO PEOPLE AND RHODE ISLAND WILL RELY ON MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY.

THOSE ARE LEGITIMATE ISSUES THEY SAID IN WRITING THE REPUBLICAN FANS IN WASHINGTON ARE THAT THESE TEAMS ARE ON THE TABLE.

>> I THINK THAT AFTER NOVEMBER 8, NOVEMBER 9, WE ARE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE.

IT DOESN'’T REALLY MUCH WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE, IT IS GOING TO BE, HIS BED AND GOING TO RUN FOR REELECTION?

WHO IS GOING TO CHALLENGE HIM AND THE PARTY?

THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO PROVIDE PARALYSIS GOING FORWARD.

WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> THE REPUBLICANS HAD THE KEYS TO THE CAR.

THEY HAD TRUMP IN BOTH CHAMBERS IN 2016, REALLY ONLY THE TAX CUTS GOT DONE, THEN IN 2018 THE HOUSE ONCE, SO THE DEMOCRAT HAVE HAD THEIR CHANCE.

-- HOUSE WENT, SO THE DEMOCRAT HAVE HAD THEIR CHANCE.

YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND NEGOTIATE.

I WORRY THAT THOSE DAYS ARE OVER WITH THE PARTISANSHIP.

>> THAT'’S A POINT I WAS GOING TO MAKE, IF YOU LOOK IN THE PAST, PEOPLE WOULD COME TOGETHER AND SAY, IF WE ARE GOING TO GET SOMETHING DONE, WE'’VE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER.

THE COUNTRY IS SO DIVIDED, THE POLITICS ARE SO DIVIDED, I THINK IT IS MORE LIKELY NOTHING HAPPENS AND SET APART IS GETTING TOGETHER, THEY HAVE SHOWN NO >> I'’M SORRY, FOLKS, THAT IS ALL THE TIME WE HAVE, IT GOES QUICKLY.

BUT TO SEE YOU, BILL, LISA, ED.

NEXT WEEK, WE WILL BE JUST DAYS AWAY FROM ELECTION DAY.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'’S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT WEEK.

WE WILL HAVE YOU COVERED.

WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK AS "11 EXPERIMENT" CONTINUES.

-- "A LIVELY EXPERIMENT" CONTINUES.

♪ >> "A LIVELY EXPERIMENT" IS GENEROUSLY UNDERWRITTEN BY -- >> FOR OVER 30 YEARS, "A LIVELY EXPERIMENT" HAS PROVIDED INSIGHT AND ANALYSIS OF THE POLITICAL ISSUES THAT FACE RHODE ISLANDERS.

I'’M A PROUD SUPPORTER OF THIS GREAT PROGRAM AND RHODE ISLAND PBS.