>> THIS WEEK ON A LIVELY EXPERIMENT, GAS REACHES HISTORIC PRICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

ANYTHING WE CAN CONTAIN THE CAUSE.

IN EXODUS FROM THE MCKEE ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES.

>> WE ARE GENERALLY UNDERWRITTEN BY -- I AM JOHN JUNIOR.

THE LIVELIEST PERMIT HAS PROVIDED INSIGHT AND ANALYSIS OF POLITICAL ISSUES THAT FACE RHODE ISLANDERS.

I AM A PROUD SUPPORTER OF THIS GREAT PROGRAM, AND RHODE ISLAND PBS.

JIM: JOINING US WITH THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

BILLY HUNT, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY.

JIM VINCENT, THE PROVIDENCE BRANCH NAACP PRESIDENT, AND BOB WALSH, THE NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION DIRECTOR.

WELCOME.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

YOU WILL LIKELY HEAR THE PHRASES PAIN AT THE PUMP AND PUTIN'S PRICE HIKE IN THE COMING DAYS AND WEEKS AS THE PRICE OF GASOLINE SEEMINGLY RISES BY THE HOUR.

IT IS A COMPLICATED EQUATION OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT, BUT CONSUMERS ARE LOOKING FOR RELIEF THAT MAY NOT COME FOR SOME.

LET ME START WITH YOU.

ONE PROPOSAL HAS BEEN FROM SENATOR DELACRUZ.

IT IS SUSPENDING THE STATE GAS TAX.

THAT IS $.35.

THE FEDERAL IS $.18.

SOMETHING, BUT WHEN GAS IS AT FOUR, GOING ON FIVE DOLLARS, I'M NOT SURE.

BILLY: IT IS LIKE RELEASING THE STRATEGIC RESERVES A FEW MONTHS AGO.

IT WILL NOT DO A LOT TO STEM THE TIDE OF INCREASING GAS PRICES, BUT IT IS TIME TO EVALUATE THE GAS PRICES AND RHODE ISLAND AND THE TAXES WE PAY ON A GALLON OF GAS.

10 SINCE HIGHER THAN OUR NEIGHBORS.

THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD HAVE A HIGHER TAX BURDEN THAN OUR NEIGHBORS DO.

THERE IS TALK ABOUT HOW WE GO BACK TO THE BANKING CRISIS AND EVERY THING LIKE THAT.

THERE IS A SALES TAX.

THIS IS A LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT TAX BURDENS THAT RHODE ISLANDERS PAY, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN OUR NEIGHBORING STATES, AND IT IS NOT USUALLY DISCUSSED WHEN IT COMES TO THE LEGISLATION THAT A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE PUSHING.

THE OTHER INSTANCE WITH THE GAS PRICES, AS THEY GET HIGHER, THIS IS ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES OF THE ENVIRONMENTALIST GROUPS.

TO MAKE GREEN ENERGY MORE COMPETITIVE WITH THE FOSSIL FUELS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO BE PART OF THE PLAN.

JIM: IF REPRESENTATIVE HUNT WAS THE FIRST LIBERTARIAN IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, WOULD YOU ADVOCATE REPEALING THAT?

THAT IS A HUNDRED $30 MILLION NOT YOU MUST FILL?

BILLY: OF COURSE.

YOU MUST USE COVID REALLY FUNDS.

IT IS ONLY A TEMPORARY MEASURE.

JIM: I'M SURE YOU CAN DO THAT.

BILLY: EVEN SO, HOW MUCH DOES OUR BUDGET INCREASE SINCE THE PANDEMIC START?

THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN FIND IN THE BUDGET AND MAKE WORK.

>> I WOULD NOT DO IT IS ALL -- AT ALL.

PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY FEELING THE PAIN AT THE PUMP AS MUCH AS I THOUGHT THEY WOULD.

80% OF AMERICANS ARE WILLING TO PAY HIGHER GAS TAXES IN ORDER TO NOT DEAL WITH RUSSIA.

THEY KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE HIGHER IF THEY CUT OFF RUSSIA WITH BIDEN.

YESTERDAY, PRESIDENT BIDEN DID, BUT 80% OF THE COUNTRY FEELS THAT.

THEY WILL NOT MAKE THAT SACRIFICE AT THE PUMP TO MAKE SURE RUSSIA DOES NOT CAPITALIZE ON THOSE DOLLARS.

AND SECOND, ONE THIRD OF THE GAS TAX HELPS FUND RIPPED UP.

THEY WOULD BE PUNISHED, WE DON'T WANT TO PUNISH THEM.

IN TERMS OF HAVING SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF GETTING HOSPITALS AND SCHOOLS AND WORK.

AND PLAY.

YOU CANNOT TAKE AWAY THAT FUNDING BY REPEALING THE GAS TAX.

IT MAKES NO SENSE.

>> I LIKE JIM'S ANSWER.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE UP THE MONEY.

THIS ISN'T AN INTERNATIONAL CRISIS.

>> BUT THE STATE BUDGET, HOW ABOUT THAT?

>> CERTAINLY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> IN THE SHORT-TERM, OK. WE CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AT THE STATE SURPLUS IF IT PROVIDES TEMPORARY RELIEF TO FOLKS.

BUT I'M CLOSER TO JIM IN THE ANSWER THAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF EVERY BIT OF TAX POLICY.

YES.

I AGREE WITH BILLY STATEMENT, AND I AGREE WITH HIS CONCLUSION REALLY WANT A GREENER ECONOMY AND AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE WISH TO RIDE THE BUS.

TAKE PUBLIC PRESENTATION.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF ALTERNATIVE FUELS AND ALTERNATIVE SOURCES OF ENERGIES, BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH MOST OF THE INCREASE IN THE PRICE OF GASOLINE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THIRTYSOMETHING RHODE ISLAND TAX OR THE $.18 FEDERAL TAX.

IT HAS TO DO WITH SUPPLY AND DEMAND AND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE CRISIS.

I THINK JIM IS CORRECT.

THERE IS A CRISIS.

THEY ARE NOT SUFFERING REAL PAIN.

BUT TO PAY MORE FOR ALL THE SUPPLIES AND TRANSPORTATION TO GET THERE.

IF THERE IS A STATE OR FEDERAL SHORT-TERM RELIEF THAT CAN PUT MONEY IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS, JUST LIKE WE DID DURING THE PANDEMIC, I AM ALL FOR LOOKING AT THAT.

BUT YOU CANNOT SPEND THE SAME MONEY TWO OR THREE TIMES.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF THE SURPLUS TO MAKE UP TO THE FUNDING THAT YOU WOULD LOSE FOR THE GAS TAX, YOU WOULD REALIZE YOU ARE NOT FUNNY SOME FIELD.

>> APRON OF AMERICANS MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING AN INCREASED CLASS -- GAS TAX.

THEY HAVE NOT SEEN THE INCREASES.

BACK IN FEBRUARY, THERE IS A 30% RAISE FROM LESSER, NOW, THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE OIL.

NOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT PRICES WELL OVER 45 HOURS.

WHEN YOU FILL UP YOUR OIL TANK IN YOUR HOUSE, THERE IS A DOUBLE FUEL BILL.

IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER, WITH SISI FOR PERCENT OF AMERICANS LIVING PAYCHECK-TO-PAYCHECK.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GETTING MONEY DIRECTLY INTO THE POCKETS OF PEOPLE WHO NEED THE MOST, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND NEED RIPTA, THIS IS A WAY TO INJECT THAT MONEY AND GIVE THAT MONEY DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE.

>> YOU ARE TALKING LIKE A DEMOCRAT.

WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

>> LIBERTARIANS, THEY SOMETIMES GO THIS WAY AND THEY GO THIS WAY.

>> MAYBE WE CAN COMFORT MICE.

GAS TAX PRINT WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT -- IT IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

>> WAS TO THAT, BUT DON'T TURN THE LOCAL FOLKS.

$64 TO FILL UP A 15 GALLON CAR, AT SIX TO FOUR DOLLARS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR FIVE DOLLARS.

THAT IS MONEY.

THAT IS SOMETHING TO CAESAR.

IN TERMS OF THE SAVING.

BUT THAT IS WHY PEOPLE WITH 75% OF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO HAVE INCREASED GAS PRICES.

FOR SOMETHING TO NOT FUND RUSSIA IN TERMS OF THE OIL.

>> WE ARE TWO WEEKS INTO THIS.

THESE ARE GOING LONGER PRINT WE DON'T HAVE LARGE GROUPS TIME.

AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A WHOLE PHILOSOPHICAL -- WHETHER WE SHOULD GO IN OR NOT.

BUT I FIND IT FUNNY WITH AMERICANS PRE-THEY'RE WORRIED BECAUSE THE GOT PRICES WILL GO UP.

THAT WILL CONTINUE FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE HAVE TWO WEEKS AT THIS.

>> MY GREAT RESTORATION IS THAT THERE WILL BE A FEDERAL LEVEL WITH DEMOCRATS TALKING ABOUT GIVING RELIEF AT THE FEDERAL GAS TAX.

NONE OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE WILL SIGN ON TO THE BILL.

THEY WANT TO USE HIGHER GAS PRICES AS AN ANTI-BIDEN AND ANTIDEMOCRATIC MESSAGE.

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SOME BIPARTISAN OPERATION IN THE OLD DAYS.

AT THE STATE LEVEL, REPUBLICAN STATE SENATORS WHO ARE RUNNING FOR CONGRESS, CHASKA DELACRUZ, SHE HAS PROPOSED GIVING RELIEF TO THE GAS TAX, BUT SHE WILL RUN INTO THE SAME BUZZ SAW IN HER CONGRESSIONAL RACE.

YOU GO DOWN TO WASHINGTON AND YOU WILL NOT GET THAT LEVEL OF COOPERATION.

>> YOU THINK THE SITUATION HELPS OR HURTS GETTING TOWARDS THE GREEN NEW DEAL BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IS A LITTLE EXTREME.

BUT TOWARDS CLIMATE CHANGE, AND OUR PEOPLE SAYING, WOW, WE NEED BECAUSE I PAID FIVE DOLLARS AT THE PUMP.

SCREW THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

THIS IS A REINFORCEMENT THAT WE NEED TO BE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

>> ELON MUSK IS TWEETING THAT WE SHOULD BE PRODUCING MORE OIL IN THE UNITED STATES, AND WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN BEING ONE OF THE LARGEST ELECTRIC VEHICLE PRODUCERS IN THE COUNTRY.

HE IS ADVOCATING FOR DOMESTIC PRODUCTION.

THAT SHOWS THAT WE ARE NOT READY.

WE ARE NOT THERE WITH THE ELECTRIC TECHNOLOGY, WHETHER IT BE FOR CARS OR LANDSCAPING EQUIPMENT.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING WHERE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTIN.

A PRICE HIKE.

THIS IS BIDEN'S BLUNDER.

WHAT WASTE MORE FUEL AND CREATES MORE DAMAGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT -- A WAR.

THAT IS A RESULT OF THE INTERMINGLING OF THE REVOLUTION OF BIDEN INSTALLING HIS SON IN THE JOB WITH OIL REFINING.

THIS IS THE RESULT OF ALL OF THAT INTERPLAY OF UKRAINE AND BIDEN AND OBAMA.

>> THAT IS A WHOLE OTHER THING.

>> HE REALLY GET ME.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE NOT DRIVING THEIR CARS, OF COURSE IT WILL HELP THE ENVIRONMENT IN TERMS OF CLIMATE CATASTROPHE.

LIKE IT OR NOT.

>> IT IS FRUSTRATING.

JUST AS WE GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, COST MORE TO GO SOMEPLACE PRINT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT.

>> IF YOU HAVE TO LOSE FOR 500 POUNDS, YOU HAVE NO QUICK SOLUTION.

I'M NOT SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE READY TO MAKE THAT SACRIFICE.

THE MOUNTAIN SEEMS SO HIGH TO CLIMB.

LET'S PUT THAT OFF TO THE NEXT GENERATION.

OR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO.

WE ARE WORRIED.

DO YOU FEEL THAT WAY?

>> NOT YOU, BUT DO YOU VIEW IT THAT WAY?

>> I THINK THAT A LOT OF FORCES ARE DRIVING THE MESSAGE ON A VERY NARROW ISSUE OF TASK COSTS.

THE GAS TAX.

PRIVATIVE AFFECT, WHERE THERE IS A MUCH BIGGER ISSUE AT STAKE WITH WHAT WE STAY WITH YOU.

WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES TO COVER.

MCKEE HAS TO DIRECTOR.

SHE IS GOING TO THE MIDWEST.

SHE CAME IN AND BETWEEN 19.

JANET COIT IS LEFT.

A LOT OF IMMENSE RATIONS COME AND GO.

IS THIS THE NATURAL EVIDENCE LOCAL, OR IS THIS SOMETHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IS THE END OF THE ADMINISTRATION, GENERALLY, THERE IS AN ADMIN FLOW THAT GOES BEFORE PEOPLE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT SHE WANTS TO GO BACK TO HER FAMILY, AND WE TAKE PEOPLE AT THEIR BOARD.

SOMETIMES, BECAUSE, THE GOVERNOR REPLACED THE GOVERNOR.

THEY SAY I WAS GOING TO STICK IT OUT TO THE END, BUT THIS IS NOT SURPRISING TO BE.

APPRECIATIVELY HARD IN A TRANSITION TIME WITH ONLY ONE YEAR IN OFFICE, TO GET FOLKS TO MAKE THAT LONG-TERM COMMITMENT.

WHOEVER THE GOVERNOR GETS ELECTED, OR REELECTED, DEPEND HOW YOU PHRASE IT, AN OPPONENT LIKE A DEMOCRAT, THEY WILL GET THE FOUR-YEAR TERM AND FILL OUT THE TEAM.

>> IT IS THE NEW EBON FLOW.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE AIR, AND PEOPLE TEND TO LEAD.

NOT EVERYBODY, BUT SOME LEAVE BECAUSE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OR FAMILY CONSTRAINTS.

I AM NOT PARTICULARLY CONCERNED BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN.

SHE DID IT FOR MEDICINE JOB FOR BOTH GOVERNORS.

MY CONCERN IS THAT.

HOWEVER, I AM HEARING THAT THE COLONEL IS GOING TO TAKE A JOB, POSSIBLY IN SOUTH KINGSTON AS THE NEW TOWN MANAGER.

THAT WOULD OPEN UP A SPOT FOR THE FIRST BLACK COLONEL IN RHODE ISLAND STATE TROOPER HISTORY.

>> DARNELL WILLIAMS.

THE NUMBER TWO RIGHT NOW.

26 YEAR VETERAN.

A MARINE CORPS VETERAN.

AND HE HAS WORKED UP THE RANKS.

I HAVE KNOWN HIM FROM THE TIME HE WAS A SERGEANT, AND HE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN HE LEFT, THAT HISTORY WOULD BE MADE.

HAVING THE FIRST BLACK STATE POLICE COLONEL.

>> YOU CALLED IT.

THE SUPREME COURT.

MAYBE YOU GO.

>> I ASKED HER, AND SHE DID PIT I LAST THE GOVERNOR TO MAKE HISTORY ON THIS, AND I'M SURE HE WILL.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE LARGER HISTORY WITH THE RACE?

WE HAVE NOT HAD YOU ON, A LOT OF YOU, SINCE ALL THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING.

LET'S GET THIS ON THE RECORD BEFORE WE GO.

YOU ARE NOT RUNNING FOR CD2.

>> I'M NOT RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR PRITZKER X ALLRED.

>> BOB, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, HE IS RETIRING IN AUGUST.

SO MAYBE IF YOU MOVE HIM UP THREE OR FOUR MONTHS, HE COULD HAVE.

>> FROM MY NEA POSITION.

>> NOW, THE JOCKEYING BEGINS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WE MOVE INTO DARE I SAY A POST-PANDEMIC ERA.

WHAT DOES MICKEY HAVE TO DO TO STAY ON THE COURSE?

>> I THINK JUST BY THE NATION OF BEING KEPT OUT OF THE LOOP WHEN HE WAS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, HE DID NOT HAVE CHOICE BUT THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WAS IN PLACE TO SWITCH HORSES MIDSTREAM OR WHATEVER THE CLICHES.

GOING FORWARD, HE NEEDS TO ESTABLISH HIS OWN IDENTITY IN THIS RACE, AND I THINK HE IS RUNNING ON HIS RECORD.

I THINK HE IS REALLY LOOKING TO CLEAN HOUSE AND GET PEOPLE IN THE POSITION THAT ARE GOING TO PRESENT THE IMAGE OF HIM BEING A SUCCESSFUL RESPONSE TO THE COVID PANDEMIC, LEADING US THROUGH THE RECOVERY, IN RHODE ISLAND.

AND THE MONEY.

I THINK THAT, JUST BY THE NATURE OF PERCEIVED BICKERING THAT WAS GOING ON IN THE ADMINISTRATION, WITHOUT CENTER SCOTT AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON, MAYBE HE IS LOOKING TO GET SOME MORE FRIENDLY'S AND THOSE VISIONS THIS WOULD HELP THEM DURING THE ELECTION SEASON.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS AND A LOT OF NAME RECOGNITION.

NELLIE RAN A GOOD CAMPAIGN.

MAYBE THAT FORCED HIM OUT BECAUSE THE NUMBERS WEREN'T GOOD.

>> HE GOT IN TROUBLE WITH SOME OF THE CANDIDATES WHEN I WAS ON THE SHOW A FEW CYCLES AGO.

>> GOOD.

>> DAN MCKEE WAS THE FRONT RUNNER BECAUSE HE WAS THE FRONT RUNNER.

AND I USED GAME OF THRONES TERMINOLOGY WHEN I DISCUSSED THIS.

DAN MCKEE IS THE KING OF THE NORTH, AND RIGHT NOW, HE IS ON THE THRONE.

THAT IS A GOOD COMBINATION TO HAVE PITY HAS THE MAYOR'S IMPROVIDENCE AND JOHNSTON IN CUMBERLAND, AND DESPERATE >> WITH AB NIGHTS.

>> BANNERMAN.

EAST PROVIDENCE.

I SAW THE ANNOUNCEMENT, AND THE REPUBLICAN FROM CRANSTON WAS IN ATTENDANCE.

THAT IS A GOOD START.

IF WE -- I HAVE NOT PULLED THE RACE, BUT IF WE PULL THE RACE, HE IS PROBABLY IN THAT MID TO HIGH 30 RANGE, BUT SOME OF IT IS SOFT BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW HIM, DESPITE BEING GOVERNOR FOR YEARS, AS WELL AS THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN GINA OR SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN OFFICE FOR A LONG TIME.

THAT SAID, NELLY ACQUITTED HERSELF WONDERFULLY.

SHE WAS SECRETARY OF STATE, AND SHE SWITCHED ANALOGIES, CLOUD OF DUST, SHE WILL BE AT THE END, AND ONE FIELD GOAL OR TOUCHDOWN, OF BEING ABLE TO WIN THE DEMOCRATIC RUN.

>> SHE'S GOT -- HE HAS THE EAR BEHIND HER BECAUSE SHE IS GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO GET ON TELEVISION AND ALL OF THE MULTIMEDIA THAT YOU NEED FOR MODERN CAMPAIGN.

IT IS GREAT CREDIT.

VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND EXTENSIVE ON EDUCATION.

THEY DON'T WIN ELECTIONS WITH PLATFORMS, BUT THEY GET THE ATTENTION OF THE PEOPLE WHO PAY ATTENTION EARLY TO ELECTIONS.

>> WILL HAVE TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE.

A LITTLE LOST THREE.

CLEAR IT.

>> IF YOU WATCH THE SHOW, YOU GET IT.

>> AND IT IS NOT A BIG TURNAROUND.

>> 130,000 VOTES.

10% TO MACK BROWN.

GETTING A PLURALITY.

>> I THINK NOT HAVING A LARGE GENERAL CLOTS EITHER WAY.

WHEN YOU'RE THE INCUMBENT, YOU HAVE THE POWER OF THE INCUMBENCY, AND IT IS VERY POWERFUL, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE ALL OF THE OTHER.

GOING INTO IT.

I THINK HE HAS BEEN EVERYWHERE SINCE.

SO I THINK HE HAS NAME RECOGNITION.

SO, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I'M NOT SAYING HE IS A FRONT RUNNER, BUT I KNOW THAT HISTORICALLY, THE INCUMBENT HAS AN ADVANTAGE.

THEY DON'T LOSE RACES.

HOWEVER, YOU HAVE OTHER CANDIDATES AT 30%.

WHO KNOWS.

YOU'VE SEEN IT BEFORE.

IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.

IN THIS CASE, THERE ARE FIVE.

LEWIS DANIEL MUNOZ AS WELL.

AS WELL AS CAP BROWN.

THERE ARE FIVE CANDIDATES.

ANYONE CAN MOBILIZE THEIR PEOPLE IN A SMALL STATE, AND WHO KNOWS.

THEY MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING INTERESTING HAPPENING FOR IT QUICK CITIZEN ON YEAR, BUT DON'T YOU THINK THAT THE RACE IS GOING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE ONTO THE POLLS.

THERE ARE PRIMARIES THERE.

THERE ARE MORE VOTERS, AT LEAST IN THAT DISTRICT.

>> I THINK THAT HELPS.

IT PROBABLY HELPS THE PEOPLE RUNNING AGAINST THE SO-CALLED INCUMBENT BECAUSE IT IS A SPLIT.

REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES ARE GOING TO KEEP FOLKS WHO CAN VOTE IN EITHER PRIMARY ON THE SIDELINES.

LOOK AT CRANSTON AS AN INTERESTING --.

>> THAT IS INTERESTING.

>> YOU HAVE TO DECIDE NEXT -- >> CRANSTON, I PATHETICALLY, THE REPUBLICAN MAYOR, HE LIKES DAN MCKEE, BUT HE LIKES ALICE FONG.

IF YOU ARE AN INDEPENDENT CRANSTON AND YULI REPUBLICAN, YOU'RE GOING TO TURN TO THE PRIMARY, NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY TO HELP DAN MCKEE.

>> THE VOTER TURNOUT FOR INCUMBENTS.

IF IT WAS A HIGHER TURNOUT, THAT DOES NOT HELP DAN MCKEE.

IT WON'T BE BECAUSE OF HIS FRIEND.

BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE LOGICAL BECAUSE MATT BROWN, HE IS PART OF THE PROGRESSIVES, AND THEY HAVE 50 PEOPLE THAT I THINK THEY'RE RUNNING, AND I THINK DANNY MUNOZ IS PUERTO RICAN, A YOUNG AND DYNAMIC PERSON.

FOR CENTRAL FALLS.

AS WELL AS A WOMAN WITH AN EXCELLENT JOB IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

THEY'VE HAVE DONE DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THEY DO HAVE MONEY.

IT COULD BE VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU HAVE FIVE DISTINCT AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE.

DIFFERENT KINDS OF RACES.

UNPREDICTABLE.

AND TO ME IN BOSTON, FOR BOSTON POLITICS, IT IS HARD TO BEAT THE INCUMBENT.

>> WAS TALK ABOUT CUTTING BACK TO NORMAL MANDATES.

WHAT YOU HEARD, AND MANY OTHERS.

SCHOOLS ARE GETTING BACK TO NORMAL.

LIFE.

>> I WAS PRESENTLY SUPPLIES -- PRESENTLY SUPPLIED -- PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.

WE BEEN TAKING OUR CHILD TO DAYCARE, SO THAT WAS EXCITING.

IT IS AMAZING HOW QUICKLY, WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING TO DISTRACT THE GENERAL POPULATION, WE CAN TURN A PAGE, AND GET BACK TO NORML.

>> A WAR IN UKRAINE.

>> IT WHIFFS A LITTLE BIT OF THE WAG THE DOG TYPE OF NARRATIVE HERE.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, HERE WE ARE.

WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM THE PANDEMIC TO AN END, IT.

WE SHOULD GET BACK TO NORMAL.

THERE IS NO REASON TO BE MASKING ANYMORE.

NO REASON TO BASK IN SCHOOLS.

THE METTA WERE THERE.

PEOPLE IN VACCINES ARE READILY AVAILABLE.

THEY CAN GET THEM IF THEY WANT TO.

REALLY, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A RECKONING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE IMPOSED THESE MANDATES AND UNNECESSARY RESTRICTIONS ON THE POPULATION GENERAL -- POPULACE IN GENERAL.

AND THE SCHOOLCHILDREN WILL BE THE LEAST EFFECTIVE FOR AT RISK FOR HAVING ADVERSE EFFECT FROM THIS VIRUS AND HAVING THE WORST EFFECTS AS A CURE WAS WAY WORSE THAN THE DISEASE.

>> BUT THERE HAS BEEN A RECKONING FOR SOME SCHOOLS.

INVARIABLY THEY ARE ON A RECALL.

THANK YOU.

THERE IS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.

I LIKE THE FIRST HALF OF WHAT HE SAID.

HE WENT OFF TO THE HINTERLANDS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.

THERE IS NO RECKONING.

IT IS EXACTLY WHAT SCIENCE DICTATED, AND MEDICINE DICTATED WE SHOULD DO.

AND MORE OR LESS, THE TIMING WE SHOULD FOLLOW ON THIS.

AND THERE ARE PLACES THAT DELETE MASKING.

AND IF YOU GO TO THAT PROBLEM, YOU WILL HAVE TO RMS.

IT IS WITH THE SCHOOLS.

NOT WEARING THAT, IT DEPENDS ON THE DISTRICT, AND IT DEPENDS ON THE CLASSROOM, AND THERE ARE MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING MASKS AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CHOICE IS RESPECTED ON BOTH SIDES.

MY DISTRICTS ARE HIGHER BACK.

IT IS LESS OF AN ISSUE.

THERE IS THE COMMISSIONER AND HEADLINE.

THE DECISION IN PROVIDENCE BECAUSE THERE IS A LOW COMMUNITY VACCINATION RATE, AND THEY ARE KEEPING THE STUDENTS BEING MASKED.

A LOW RATE THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANY RATE.

THIS IS AN OLD ANALOGY.

THERE IS A KID IN THE CLASS, AND THERE ARE NUMBER PEANUTS.

IF YOU WANT A LOW VACCINATION RATE, YOU STILL WEAR A MASK.

BUT NOT WITH SOME POLITICIANS.

>> THAT IS RIDICULOUS.

EVEN IF THE VACCINATION RATE IS LOWER IN THE URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE CASE RATE IS MUCH LOWER THAN IT IS IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE HIGHER VACCINATION RATES.

YOU GET THE DOCTOR TO SAY THAT, AND I WILL SAY IT'S TIME TO DO IT.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

>> IS NOT HANGING ON EVERY WORD.

>> I'M GLAD THE COMMISSION HAS THE MASK ON THE KIDS IN PROVIDENCE BECAUSE OF THAT.

>> THAT IS A STATE LAW.

I WANT TO TAKE THE POLITICS OUT OF THAT.

NOT EVERYBODY HAS EQUAL ACCESS.

THAT IS JUST NOT TRUE.

EVEN WITH REALITY IN TERMS OF THE FACT THAT THE KIDS HAVE DENSE POPULATIONS.

THERE IS A PARENTS ISSUE, AND A KIDS ISSUE.

WE HAVE TO SORT ALL THAT OUT.

ALL THINGS OUT OF IT.

LOOK AT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY FOR THE KIDS THEMSELVES.

>> WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE STUDENT POPULATION HAS ENGLISH AS A SECOND -- SECOND LANGUAGE, AND IT IS RESTRICTED BY THIS MASS MANDATE, AND YOU TALK ABOUT UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS WITH SCORES AT THE BOTTOM.

WITH THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THE STUDENTS, WHAT ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THEM?

WHAT IMPACT WILL THIS FORMATIVE YOUR LIFE HAVE TWO EFFECTIVE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.

>> I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

IMPACT IS IMPORTANT, BUT I WOULD RATHER SEE THEM ALIVE THAN DEAD.

>> THAT IS HYPERBOLE.

X12, FIRST OF ALL, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE, IF WE CAN SAVE ONE LIFE IT IS WORTH IT.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SANCTIONS IN RUSSIA.

NO-FLY ZONES WHICH BRING US INTO WORLD WAR III.

IF YOU CAN SAVE ONE LIFE.

WE CAN REDUCE ALL SANCTIONS IN RUSSIA.

WE CAN SEE TO PUTIN.

YOU ARE CHANGING THE STORY OF DEPENDING.

>> I SEPARATE FOREIGN POLICY.

>> BUT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS BECAUSE --.

FAMILIES THAT THEY GO UP TO.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

>> IF IT WAS ME, ONE LIFE IS TOO MUCH.

>> I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT --.

>> THAT'S YOUR RISK ASSESSMENT.

>> BASED UPON THE RISK TOLERANCE, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME RISK TOLERANCE.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU MANDATE THIS THAT.

YOU TAKE CHOICE AWAY FROM THE VISUAL.

>> WE DON'T GET TO MAKE ANY OF THEM.

WE HAVE TO REITERATE.

I'M LEAVING THIS TO THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL.

WHEN THEY SAY IT, WE SAY OK. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

>> THAT'S A COPOUT.

>> NO IT'S NOT.

NEXT WE ARE RUNNING A GOVERNMENT.

>> POLITICAL LEADERS NEED TO TAKE ADVICE FROM ALL CONCERNED POLICIES, AND THEY'VE MADE THE WRONG POLICY DECISION.

>> ADVERSE EFFECT ON THINGS.

>> A SOMEWHAT.

-- BASED ON WHAT?

>> THE NEW YORK TIMES SENT OUT AN ARTICLE SAYING THAT MANDATES AND THE RESPONSE HAVE LITTLE TO NO EFFECT.

BY THE SCIENCE, AND BY THE NUMBERS.

>> I'M MAKING AN EXECUTIVE DECISION PRINT WE ARE GOING TO DO A LIVE EXTRA BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHOOL ISSUES, AND HOW APPROPRIATE THAT WE HAVE THAT ON WALL STREET.

>> LET'S DO THIS.

WAS TAKE A BREATH, AND START WITH EITHER OUTRAGE OR KUDO.

>> I'M GOING BACK TO OUTRAGE.

KUDO.

MY OUTRAGES SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED THREE WEEKS AGO IN MINNESOTA.

IN TERMS OF A SENTENCING.

JIM POTTER, WHO IS THE WHITE OFFICER KILLED DAUNTE WRIGHT.

>> WITH A TASER.

QUICK SHE KILLED HER WITH A GUN FREE SHE THOUGHT WAS A TASER.

>> 26 YEAR VETERAN.

WE HAVE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS OUT HERE.

TWO STEPS FORWARD AND ONE STEP BACK.

AHMAUD ARBERY, THE THREE DEFENDANTS WERE GUILTY, TWICE, NOW IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THEY ARE GUILTY OF A HATE CRIME.

IN TERMS OF GEORGE FLOYD, THE THREE OFFICERS FOLLOWING DEREK CHAUVIN RIP --.

, TWO STEPS FORWARD.

WHEN KIM POTTER WAS USED OF MANSLAUGHTER WANTED TO, THE MAXIMUM MANSLAUGHTER IS 15 YEARS.

BUT MITIGATING FACTORS, YOU GET SEVEN.

SHE WILL CRY, THE JUDGE CRIED.

SHE ENDED UP WITH TWO YEARS.

ALSO, YOU HAD MOHAMED NOOR WHO ACCIDENTALLY KILLED A WHITE WOMAN.

HE GOT 33 -- 30 -- THIRD-DEGREE MURDER IN 12 YEARS.

IT WAS THOUGHT OF BY THE SUPREME COURT OF MASADA, HE GOT THE FIVE YOUR MAC, AND THE JUDGE SAID, ON GOOD BEHAVIOR, YOU CAN GET OUT EARLY.

>> YOU JUST SUCKED UP SOMETIME.

>> QUICK, I'M DOING THIS JUST FOR YOU.

>> TECHNICAL FILES.

>> THAT'S AND OUTRAGE.

GREAT JOB BY BRIAN.

BULLDOGS GOING TO THE FCA.

TECHNICAL FOUL.

>> NOT A GOOD IDEA.

>> HE COULDN'T SEE THAT COMING?

HOW LONG DID THAT GO?

>> IT TAKES AWAY.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LONG FOR A >> IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE TEAM.

MAYBE THEY ABANDONED.

>> I LIKE IT.

I WANTED TO GIVE IT TO THEM FOR TALKING OVER HIM.

>> YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> I DON'T MEMBER THIS EXTENSIVELY, BUT THE EXPANSION WAS BACK IN 2013.

IT WAS COMPLETED IN 2017.

WAS OVER $120 MILLION, AND JUST TODAY, OR THIS WEEK, THEY ADDED THE FIRST TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHT.

FROM PROVIDENCE TO LAX.

IT IS A BRAND-NEW AIRBUS THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A LONGER RUNWAY.

WHY DID WE SPEND ALL THIS MONEY TO EXPAND OUR RUNWAY, AND THIS IS JUST A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF GOVERNMENT.

A TRAIN STATION THAT DOESN'T SERVICE THE AIRPORT.

THE INTERLINK THAT IS THERE, AND ALONG RUNWAY THAT WE DON'T NEED.

TECHNOLOGY AT WORK.

MUCH BETTER THAN CENTRAL PLANNING.

THINK OF ALL THE MONEY WE RAISED IT -- WASTED BY EXPANDING THOSE ROADWAYS.

>> WE ARE NOT DONE.

WE WANT TO HEAR MORE OF THIS.

COME BACK RIGHT NOW FOR OUR ONLINE BONUS SEGMENT.

LIFE.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO RI PBS/LIVELY.

YOU WILL HEAR MR. WALSH AND MR. HUNT MR. FENTON.

WE WILL CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION FOR THE REST OF YOU.

COME BACK NEXT WE COME UP WITH A LIVE EXPERIMENT.

THANK YOU.

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