
A Lively Experiment 3/19/2021
Season 33 Episode 38 | 29mVideo has Closed Captions
RI's COVID vaccine rollout hits another bump in the road as demand far exceeds supply.
RI's COVID vaccine rollout hits another bump in the road as demand far exceeds supply. Plus, the Lively panel looks at Governor McKee's first couple weeks at the helm. Moderator Jim Hummel is joined by The Boston Globe's Amanda Milkovits, attorney and legal analyst Lou Pulner, and the NAACP Providence Branch's Jim Vincent.
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A Lively Experiment 3/19/2021
Season 33 Episode 38 | 29mVideo has Closed Captions
RI's COVID vaccine rollout hits another bump in the road as demand far exceeds supply. Plus, the Lively panel looks at Governor McKee's first couple weeks at the helm. Moderator Jim Hummel is joined by The Boston Globe's Amanda Milkovits, attorney and legal analyst Lou Pulner, and the NAACP Providence Branch's Jim Vincent.
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>> JOINING US WITH THEIR INSIGHT.
ATTORNEY AND LEGAL REPORTER.
JIM: HELLO EVERYONE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU SPENDING PART OF YOUR WEEKEND WITH US.
AN ADDITIONAL 106 2000 RHODE ISLANDERS BECAME AVAILABLE -- RHODE ISLANDERS BECAME AVAILABLE FOR THE VACCINE.
THERE WERE ONLY ABOUT 1600 INVOLVED.
WE FOUND OUT LATE LAST WEEK THE WEBSITE WHERE YOU SIGN UP GOT TO AN A HAPPY -- TO ANNETTE -- TWO AND A HALF-MILLION PAGE VIEWS.
JIM VINCENT, YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE.
YOU GOT YOUR FIRST SHOT IN FEBRUARY.
>> THE PROCESS WENT WELL FOR ME.
I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
THEY INFORM PEOPLE IF YOU ARE OVER A CERTAIN AGE AND WE ARE OPENING UP NEXT WEEK.
JIM H.: YOU WERE ENCOURAGING OTHERS IN YOUR LEADERSHIP SESSION?
>> THERE'S THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT HESITANCY WHICH I THINK IS OVERRATED.
WHAT I'VE DONE IS URGE ANYBODY OF COLOR THAT'S GOT AT LEAST ONE SHOT TO DO AN AUDIO CLIP AND EMAIL IT TO -- EMAIL IT AND HE WILL PLAY IT ON HIS MORNING SHOW.
IT'S SAFE.
IT'S EASY.
LET'S GET VACCINATED.
JIM H.: YOU THOUGHT THE HESITANCY HAS BEEN OVERRATED?
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN RHODE ISLAND IN TERMS OF MINORITY COMMUNITIES?
>> THERE IS SOME HESITANCY BECAUSE OF DISTRUST OF NOT JUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BUT ALSO THE MEDICAL PUNITIVE.
THERE A LOT OF GOOD REASON FOR THE MISTRUST.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT NATIONAL POLLING, THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS NOT THE MOST HESITANT.
REPUBLICAN MALES ARE PROBABLY THE MOST HESITANT.
WE ARE HESITANT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
WE ARE LESS HESITANT THAN OTHER GROUPS.
THAT PROBLEM IS ACCESS.
WE NEED ACCESS TO THE VACCINE.
HASN'T A GOOD JOB AND WILL DO AS GOOD A JOB AS THOSE ZIP CODES IN RHODE ISLAND.
COMMUNITIES OF COLOR HAVE ONLY BEEN VACCINATED AT A PERSON THAT -- AT A RATE OF 12%.
I'M DOING ANYTHING I COULD DO AS PART OF THE NAACP AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO GET THAT WORD OUT.
WHAT THEY CREATED IN CENTRAL FALLS.
LET'S CREATE THAT SO THAT BUDDY CAN GET VACCINATED.
JIM H.: HAS A BAD HISTORY OF ROLLOUTS.
WHETHER IT WAS THE DMV, THE TOLLING PLAZAS.
HISTORICALLY, WE ARE THE WORST AT ROLLOUTS AND UNFORTUNATELY VACCINES ARE NO DIFFERENT.
I AGREE WITH JIM.
I THINK GETTING THE OUTLAND COMMUNITIES SERVED IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE ANYONE WHO LIVES IN A CITY OR URBAN AREA WILL HAVE ACCESS.
THOSE THAT ARE OUT IN THE RSD -- RFD.
I WONDER, WE DON'T KNOW.
I WILL ASK, WHY IF YOU KNEW ONLY 1800 VACCINES WERE GOING TO BE COMING AND YOU WOULD HAVE OPENED IT UP TO ANOTHER 160,000 PEOPLE.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT.
I AM STARTING TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY.
WE ARE ALL OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THE GOLDEN TICKET BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO GET VACCINATED.
YOU WITH INC., -- YOU WOULD THINK, WE WERE SO GREAT WITH FLU IMMUNIZATIONS.
WE HAD THE PILOT PROGRAM WITH PFIZER.
WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN READY FOR THIS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ASKING WHY IT SEEMS WE WERE NOT QUITE READY.
I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS THIS MORNING ON THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WEBSITE AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE MOST COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF PERCENTAGE WERE JAMESTOWN, EAST GREENWICH AND CENTRAL FALLS COMING IN AT THIRD.
SO WE STILL HAVE WORK TO BE.
JIM H.: IT'S NOT JUST COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
ONE THIRD OF THE STATE POLICE TROOPERS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A DISCONNECT.
>> I HAD A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY OVER THE RHODE ISLAND POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION.
THERE WAS HESITANCY.
THEY WERE NOT SURE WHAT THE VACCINE WAS GOING TO DO.
IT'S FEAR OF MISSING OUT.
NOW THEY WANT TO SIGN UP.
THAT'S WHAT CREATING A CLOG IN THE SYSTEM.
JIM H.: WE LOOKED IN CONNECTICUT, MASSACHUSETTS.
I HEAR THAT MASSACHUSETTS IS GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO EVERYBODY IN APRIL AND CONNECTICUT, MY BROTHER LIVES IN CONNECTICUT.
HE'S GETTING HIS SECOND VACCINE TODAY.
RHODE ISLAND BLAMES IT ON SUPPLY, BUT WHY ARE OTHER STATES ABLE TO DO IT BETTER THAN US IF IT IS A SUPPLY ISSUE?
>> BECAUSE WE RUN -- BECAUSE THEY RUN THEIR STATE BETTER THAN WE DO.
WE ARE JUST HISTORICALLY HORRIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO ROLLOUTS.
GOVERNOR RAIMONDO, BY HER ABSENCE AND SOLITUDE OVER THE THREE OR FOUR WEEKS BEFORE BECAME GOVERNOR, THAT HAD TO HAVE HAMPERED OUR ROLLOUT.
JIM H.: SO WHAT DO YOU THINK GOING FORWARD?
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BUMP IN THE ROAD, BUT I WONDER WHAT IT'S GOING TO BOOT -- BUT I WONDER WHAT IT'S WANT TO LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS RHODE ISLAND HAVING ACCESS TO GET THE VACCINE.
>> IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE SUPPLY.
SUPPLY IS ONE TO CATCH UP WITH THE DEMAND AND I THINK THOSE BUMPS IN THE ROAD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT.
I'M OPTIMISTIC AND I WONDER IN MASSACHUSETTS IF THEY ARE WISHFUL THINKING IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
WE HAVE THE KIND OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND THE HARDEST HIT COMMUNITIES, WE WILL BE VACCINATED AT MASSACHUSETTS RATE OR BEYOND THAT RATE.
I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF CATCHING UP.
WE ARE DOING IT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT THE HARDEST HIT COMMUNITIES GET VACCINATED.
KEEP DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
JIM H.: JUST A QUESTION.
DID YOU HAVE ANY REACTION TO YOUR FIRST SHOT?
I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD SORENESS IN THE ARM.
>> I HAD NO ISSUES.
I AM AM ON A COLLEGE ALUMNI CALL ONCE A MONTH AND ONE OF MY CLASSMATES IS A DOCTOR AND HE SAYS HEY, BEFORE YOU GET THAT FIRST SHOT TAKE A TYLENOL OR WHATEVER.
IT WILL MAKE IT BETTER.
I DID AND MAYBE THAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE.
>> CAN WE GET TO THE FACT WHY YOU HAD YOUR FIRST SHOT IN FEBRUARY AND YOU HAVE NOT HAD YOUR SECOND SHOT YET?
>> IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
MY SECOND SHOT IS DUE MARCH 23.
EXACTLY 30 DAYS AFTER MY FIRST SHOT.
I'M FINE.
FEBRUARY 23 IS MY FIRST SHOT.
MARCH 23 IS GOING TO BE MY SECOND SHOT.
I HEARD IT HAS TO BE THREE WEEKS, A FOUR WEEKS.
I DID NOT HAVE A CONCERN WHEN I FOUND IT WAS 30 DAYS LATER.
JIM H.: US YOUNG GUNS, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
LET'S SHIFT GEARS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS PANEL HAS BEEN ON.
HE'S GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
IT'S BEEN COVID, COVID, COVID.
THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES GOING ON.
LET'S GO AROUND THE HORN AND WE CAN DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT IS YOUR IMPRESSION OF HIM AND OVER AS GOVERNOR?
>> I THINK HE'S A LITTLE NERVOUS .
HE DOES NOT HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO REVAMP IT AND DO HIS OWN.
NO BROAD-BASED ACT.
I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE HIGHER BEACH FEES.
WHAT'S REALLY GOOD IS THE 42 MILLION -- 42 ME IN DOLLARS IN GRANT TO GIVE TO SMALL BUSINESSES.
THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE FLOWING IN PRETTY RAPIDLY.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
I THINK HE DOES CARE.
I THINK HE DOES HAVE HIS THUMB ON THE PULSE OF THIS STATE.
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN OUR FORMER GOVERNMENT -- GOVERNOR.
JIM H.: AMANDA?
>> THERE'S NO REAL WAVES.
IT SEEMS GOVERNOR MCKEE IS A KNOWN QUANTITY.
I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH ELEANOR SLATE HOSPITAL AND I WANT TO SEE HOW THIS IT MINISTRATION HANDLES IT.
>> I'M SORRY.
$11.2 MILLION WHICH IS TWICE THE BUDGET OF THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS NO STATE SALES TAX, I HAVE TO FIND FAULT WITH THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO WASTE.
I THINK THERE IS A TON OF WASTE.
>> NO WAVES.
JIM H.: OH WAVES.
SO THE ISSUE WAS TWO YEARS AGO, OPEN THROUGH EVERYBODY OFF.
IT BALLOONED UP TO 13 BILLION BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL, YOU GOT ALL THAT OUT.
TWO YEARS AGO, THE BUDGET WAS 11.4 BILLION.
10.4 BILLION.
WHEN THAT FEDERAL MONEY RUNS OUT.
THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PROBLEM.
>> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME STORY.
WE DON'T HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM.
WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY CAN FIND FAULT WITH THAT STATEMENT.
IT'S THE SAME OLD SAME OLD.
JIM H.: WE HAD THE PRODUCTION CREW PUT TOGETHER A SERIES OF CLIPS.
WHAT'S YOUR FIRST IMPRESSION OF THE NEW GOVERNOR?
>> THE GOVERNOR HAS ASKED ME TO BE A SENIOR ADVISOR.
ASIDE FROM THAT, I THINK HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.
ALSO, HE'S GOING TO CREATE A DEDICATED HOUSING FUND SO I THINK HAVING HOUSING MONEY IS WANT TO BE A FIRST.
ALL THE OTHER NEW ENGLAND STATES HAVE IT.
HE HAS HELD THE LINE WITH GOVERNOR RAIMONDO AS WELL AS THE PRODUCTS.
I THINK IT'S -- THE CAR TAX.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPEN IN TERMS OF LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA AS WELL AS THE WEALTH TAX.
JIM H.: WE ALL KNOW THAT THE END OF THE SESSION, IT LOOKS NOT A LOT DIFFERENT, BUT THE GOVERNOR HAD A VERY SHORT.
--.
OF TIME TO PUT THIS ON.
IT SEEMS THE NEW GOVERNOR MAY BE DOING THE SAME THING WITH THESE BEACH FEES.
ONE THING WE WANT TO DO IS GO TO THE BEACH FOR A REASONABLE PRICE.
THEY JUST PASSED A $400 MILLION BOND ISSUE.
A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT MONEY WAS FOR CAMPGROUNDS.
I WONDER, THAT'S THE ONE THING I WONDER IF THAT'S GOING TO GET CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE.
>> IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO KEEP YOUR LICENSE PLATE.
JIM H.: THAT'S A BONUS.
[LAUGHTER] >> KAMAN ON.
THAT'S IMPORTANT.
>> DON'T MESS WITH OUR LICENSE PLATES.
DON'T MESS WITH OUR BEACH FEES.
THIS IS THE OCEAN STATE.
THERE ARE FEW THINGS THAT CAN START A CONTROVERSY AND THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
JIM H.: WHAT WAS HE THINKING?
DID SOME ADVISOR SAY LET'S JUST POKE PEOPLE IN THE EYE?
>> HIS ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS TO STICK IT TO THE CONNECTICUT PEOPLE WHO COME TO OUR BEACHES, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE GET DRAGGED INTO THAT MORASS.
HE'S ON A HUGE LEARNING CURVE OF HAVING DONE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE OFFICIAL -- THE OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS GOVERNOR.
IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
JIM H.: WHAT ABOUT THE LEGALIZATION OF POT?
25 YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE PROPOSING CASINOS AND EVERYBODY WAS LIKE OH, AND IT WENT DOWN IN A FUNNY MESS?
BY THE TIME IT PASSED, IT WAS KIND OF HO-HUM.
BUT TRUMP AT MR. RISCH AND TOOK THE HANDS OFF.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET -- THAT'S ROB ADMINISTRATION TOOK THE HANDS OFF AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET ABOUT POT.
>> FROM A REGULAR STANDPOINT, I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME.
WE COULD CERTAINLY USE THE REVENUE.
I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
MY CONCERN IS FROM ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDARDS.
WE CAN CHECK ON THE LEVEL OF ALCOHOL IN A PERSONS SYSTEM.
WE CANNOT DO THAT WITH MARIJUANA.
THAT MEANS MORE AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO DRIVE IMPAIRED AND CAUSED SERIOUS INCIDENTS.
THE ONLY OPTION IS TO BRING THEM TO THE HOSPITAL FOR BLOOD TESTS WHICH WOULD SHOW CANNABIS IN THE SYSTEM, BUT WE ALL KNOW FROM OUR COLLEGE DAYS THAT MARIJUANA CAN STAY IN THE SYSTEM FOR UP TO 30 DAYS.
FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, IT'S PROBLEMATIC.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
JIM H.: DID YOU DO SOME RESEARCH PAPERS IN COLLEGE ON THIS?
>> YES.
[LAUGHTER] >> I DID NOT INHALE, AND THE WORDS OF OUR FORMER PRESIDENT CLINTON.
JIM H.: HAVE YOU TALKED WITH YOUR CONTACT ABOUT THIS?
WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO DO?
>> THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
THEY UNDERSTAND HOW TO CHECK FOR ALCOHOL.
MARIJUANA, BUT IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
IT IS ALREADY AN ISSUE AND I DEFY YOU TO DRIVE ANYWHERE IN THE STATE AND NOT SMELL IT -- AND NOT SMELL IT COMING FROM SOMEBODY'S VEHICLE.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE CONCERNING, BUT THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE WHAT TO ADJUST TO IT.
JIM H.: JIM?
>> I THINK IT'S INEVITABLE.
I THINK WE WILL ENJOY THE MONEY THAT COMES IN.
I THINK IT'S WHAT TO HAPPEN.
I THINK GOVERNOR MCKEE IS DIFFERENT IN THAT LETTING THE STATE CONTROL IT, HE IS TALKING ABOUT DISTRIBUTORS OF WHICH FIVE WOULD BE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
JIM H.: WHICH IS THAT WHICH HAS INCARCERATED MANY, MANY PEOPLE WHICH IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
LET ME SHIFT GEARS A LITTLE BIT.
AMANDA, YOU MENTIONED TO THE HOSPITAL.
THE WORD COMING OUT NOW IS THERE WAS THIS WHOLE EFFORT BY THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED HELP AND CARE.
THIS IS A HOSPITAL AND JUST KINDA THROWN THEM TO THE WOLVES.
THE MORE WE LEARN ABOUT THIS, IT'S REALLY DISTURBING.
>> W PRI FOUND THAT THERE WERE NOT QUITE AS MANY DISCHARGES, BUT IT'S STILL A MAJOR CONCERN FOR THE FAMILIES OF THESE RESIDENTS OF WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO GO.
THE BUDGETS IS AN ENORMOUS PROBLEM AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PAY FOR IT AND HOW IS MCKEE GOING TO PAY FOR EIGHT FACILITY TO DEAL WITH THESE PATIENTS -- PAY FOR FACILITY TO DEAL WITH THESE PATIENTS?
JIM H.: WHERE DID THEY GO?
>> YEAH, WHERE DID THEY GO?
>> MY BIGGEST CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS THE LACK OF INFORMATION COMING FROM THE STATE.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST ARE GOING AND WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE MORE NOTORIOUS KILLERS IN STATE HISTORY WHO DID WHAT HE DID TO THAT YOUNG LITTLE BOY.
AFTER HE WAS BEING RELEASED FROM PRISON, THEY PUT HIM IN THE HOSPITAL, BUT HE DID IT ON HIS OWN.
HE VOLUNTARILY WENT INTO THE SYSTEM AND NOW BECAUSE OF THE PROTECTION ACT, WE WILL NEVER KNOW IF HE WALKED OUT TWO WEEKS AFTER HE GOT THERE.
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS ARE SIGNIFICANT AND WE ARE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION DUE TO REDTAPE.
>> IT'S A BIG MESS.
IT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED.
WE NEED SOME TRUTH TELLING AND ALL OF THIS.
THAT'S A VULNERABLE POPULATION.
WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR VULNERABLE FOLKS IN THE STATE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT NEW FACILITY IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THIS WHOLE MESS.
HOPEFULLY, IT WILL BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.
I'M WAITING AND SAYING WILL HAPPEN.
I'M CONCERNED.
WHEN YOU HAVE A POPULATION BEING DEALT WAYS THAT BEING DEALT WITH IN THIS WAY, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.
JIM H.: WE'VE GOT A FEW THINGS TO GET TO, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SHORT YOU.
LET ME BEGIN WITH YOU.
DO YOU HAVE AN OUTRAGE OR A KUDO?
>> MY OUTRAGE IS GOING TO DIP TO THE STATE OF NEW YORK AND GOVERNOR CUOMO.
WE CAN ALL RECALL THE HEARINGS AND THE SENATE WHEN BRETT KAVANAUGH WAS BEING NOMINATED AND THE WAY THEY CAME AFTER HIM WITH THAT ONE VICTIM HAD A VERY HAZY MEMORY OF WHAT TRANSPIRED, WHO WAS PRESENT AND WHO EVEN DID IT.
THE GUNS WERE OUT AND THE KNIVES WERE OUT FROM THE LEFT SIDE OF THE AISLE AND NOW CRICKETS WHEN IT COMES TO EVAN OR.
HE WINS IN ME FOR HIS SPEECHES AND HIS PRESS CONFERENCES BACK IN THE DAY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE EARNED THAT EMMY IS MUCH AS PRESIDENT OBAMA EARNED HIS NOBEL PEACE PRIZE FOUR OR FIVE DAYS INTO IS IT MINISTRATION.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE HAVE SIX OR SEVEN CREDIBLE PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN HIS OFFICE WHO ARE CLAIMING THAT HE WAS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE AND THAT THEY WERE SEXUALLY HARASSED.
MY POINT HERE IS THAT THEY OUGHT TO GO TO THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH AGENCY AS OPPOSED TO TINDER --TINDER WHEN THEY ARE DOING THE HIRING.
JIM H.: DEMOCRATS, IT'S A GROWING CHORUS FROM THE DEMOCRATS.
I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO TOTALLY SKATE ON THIS.
A LOT OF UPPER-LEVEL PEOPLE AND EVEN CHUCK SCHUMER.
THE BALL IS ROLLING.
>> HOW LONG DID IT TAKE?
JIM H.: A LONG TIME.
IT WAS.
AMANDA, WHAT DO YOU HAVE THIS WEEK?
>> I HAVE BOTH.
LET ME GIVE A KUDO'S TO THE UNSUNG HEROES IN IRELAND.
THE VOLUNTEERS, ABOUT 1600 OF THEM.
THEY HAVE GIVEN WELL OVER 1000 HOURS INTO VACCINATIONS, STEPPING UP AT NURSING HOMES.
THESE ARE ORDINARY RHODE ISLANDERS WHEN THE GOVERNOR SAID PLEASE VOLUNTEER, THEY DID STEP UP.
JIM H.: NO OUTRAGE?
>> LET ME GIVE YOU THIS OUTRAGE.
LET'S GO DOWN TO ATLANTA AND THE HORRIBLE MASS SHOOTINGS AT THE THREE MASSAGE PARLORS.
I WANT TO LOOK IN PARTICULAR AT WHAT THE SHERIFF SAID ABOUT THE SUSPECT IN THE SHOOTINGS.
SAID IT WAS A BAD DAY FOR HIM AND THAT'S WHY HE WENT OUT AND SHOT THESE WOMEN.
I'M SORRY.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT SOMEONE IS HAVING A BAD DAY.
JIM H.: I THINK THAT SHERIFF WAS HAVING A BAD DAY.
>> I THINK HE DID AFTER HE SAID THAT.
IT WAS PRETTY INSENSITIVE.
IT WAS PRETTY SHOCKING.
SPEAKING AS A WOMAN, YOU CANNOT SAY SOMEONE IS HAVING A BAD DAY WHEN THEY GO OUT AND KILL A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
JIM H.: WHAT YOU HAVE THIS WEEK?
>> I A GROUP -- I AGREE.
THE FIRST ONE IS VOTER SUPPRESSION.
IT'S ALL UNDER THE PRETEXT OF MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD WHICH WE KNOW IT WAS 0-6-.
WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS BILLS THAT ARE GOING TO ROLL BACK VOTING RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY.
JIM CROW IS GOING TO MORPH INTO JAMES ESQUIRE CROW WITH A SUIT.
IT IS OUTRAGEOUS WHAT IS GOING ON.
CIVIL RIGHTS AND VOTING RIGHTS BEING ROLLED BACK BECAUSE OF THIS PRETEXT OF VOTER FRAUD WHICH WE KNOW DOES NOT EXIST.
WE'VE GOT THINGS THAT ARE EGREGIOUS LIKE ROLLING BACK HOURS ON ELECTION DAY AND THE ONE THAT GETS ME THE MOST EXCITED OR MAD, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN LONG LINES IN GEORGIA, IT'S A CRIME TO GIVE THEM FOOD OR WATER.
THAT WOULD BE A CRIME.
THE SECOND IS IN NORMAN, OKLAHOMA THERE WERE SOME LADIES THAT KNEELED AND THE ANNOUNCER CALLED THEM THE EFFING N WORK --N WORDS.
JIM H.: YOU KNOW WHAT WAS EVEN MORE OUTRAGEOUS WAS THAT HE BLAMED IT ON HIS DIABETES.
>> A GUY THAT DOES THAT WILL BLAME IT ON ANYTHING.
JIM H.: HE BECAME RACIST BECAUSE HE HAD LOW BLOOD SUGAR, RIGHT?
>> VOTER SUPPRESSION AND THOSE YOUNG LADIES IN NORMAN, A, DID NOT DESERVE THAT.
>> TO JIM -- TO JIM'S POINT, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED.
THE GIRLS TEAM THAT HE WAS REFERENCING WENT ON TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.
MAJOR KUDOS TO THOSE KIDS.
>> AND VOTER SUPPRESSION IS UP DESK IS A PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY.
JIM H.: AMANDA, WE TALK TO YOU THE LAST TIME YOU ARE ON.
THIS IS YOUR ONGOING WHEELHOUSE OF NURSING HOME VISITATIONS.
I WANTED YOU TO BRING US UP-TO-DATE, WE HAVE ABOUT TWO MINUTES LEFT.
JUST TO SET THE TABLE, NURSING HOMES WERE GROUND ZERO.
ANY MOVEMENT RECENTLY?
>> THERE IS STARTING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT AND I THINK IT HAS HAD TO DO WITH PUBLICIST T. THANKS FOR THE FAMILIES THAT PUBLICIST HE -- PUBLICITY.
THANKS FOR THE FAMILIES THAT CAME FORWARD.
THIS IS SOMETHING THE NURSING HOME INDUSTRY IS FIGHTING.
THEY ARE SAYING THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO TRAIN THESE PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T WANT THEM TO POSSIBLY INTRODUCE THE VIRUS.
THE FAMILIES -- IT STILL ONGOING AND IT'S REALLY A TRAGEDY HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES.
NOT BEING ABLE TO HOLD THEIR HANDS.
THEY ARE ALLOWED IN AT THE LAST MINUTE.
JIM H.: LAST I CHECKED, THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE VIRUS.
EVERYBODY IN THE NURSING HOME HAS BEEN VACCINATED.
SO WHERE IS THE CONCERN?
>> WHAT IS THE HARM OF LETTING PEOPLE IN NOW?
THE PANDEMIC IS NOT GONE.
MAYBE THEY WILL ROLL IT BACK NOW.
WE STILL HAVE THESE VARIANT OUT THERE.
THEY ARE CONCERNED THEY WILL GET STEPS -- TWO STEPS IN AND BE FORCED BACK OUT AGAIN.
JIM H.: THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS SAID YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT EACH INDIVIDUAL HOME RUNS ITS OWN SHOW.
>> THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES DEFER TO WHAT THE NURSING HOMES WANTS TO DO BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE GROUND.
IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE IS DIVIDE AND THE NURSING HOMES.
A LOT OF THE STAFF ARE TELLING THE FAMILIES, TELLING ME LOOK WE WANT THEM IN HERE.
THEY HELP US.
THEY WILL WORK DIRECTLY WITH THEIR LOVED ONES.
THE ADMINISTRATORS DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE CHANCE.
JIM H.: THAT IS ALL THE TIME WE HAVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE ARE NOT DONE YET.
WE ARE GOING TO DO OUR LIVELY EXTRA BONUS SEGMENT.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NATIONAL ISSUES TO TALK ABOUT.
SO JOIN US AT RIPBS.ORG.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
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