I'm, Brenda Child, a professor of American studies and American Indian studies at the University of Minnesota.

I'm read Lake Ojibwe.

I guess I'd the way I feel about the pandemic is that I never really wanted to see one happen, but if another one had to happen, I'm kind of glad it happened during my lifetime.

Because as someone who studied and thought for years about the pandemic of 19 1819, it's interesting to see, to be part of society, to be part of, you know, Indian country during this, this pandemic.

We know that when we get very sick, there's, your body has to recover.

But what we also perhaps are less attentive to is the psychological healing.

I know people who've had, you know, chronic disease or sudden illness all talk about the psychological dimension.

I think Western medicine until recent years has dismissed the psychological dimensions of healing.

And this is something that Ojibway and American Indians know very well.

They know that art and dance and songs and beauty, the creation of a jingle dress, are all part of healing.

And it's it's when art becomes medicine.

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