[music playing] ANNOUNCER: What did Jim Delligatti invent in 1966 that's more than just another hot seller?

One of York Narrow Fabrics' specialty products provided the basis for a commonly used expression.

What is it?

Find out as we all play "The Pennsylvania Game".

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Now let's get the game started here's the first lady of quiz, the host of "The Pennsylvania Game", Lynn Cullen.

Hello, hello, welcome, welcome.

We've got a great game today, great panelists.

These are all veterans, and they're good players, so let's meet them.

He's a familiar face, as I said.

They all are.

He's host of the "Morning Show" on WRSC Radio and State College also a part time instructor in Penn State School of Communications.

Please welcome Kevin Nelson.

And Chris Moore is an Emmy award winning producer at WQED Television in Pittsburgh.

He's produced a number of programs on gospel and jazz music.

Please welcome Chris Moore.

It's been a pleasure yourself.

LYNN CULLEN: And Stephen Ragusea is a clinical and forensic psychologist and president of the Pennsylvania Psychological Association, also a frequent panelist on this game.

Please say hello to Stephen Ragusea.

OK, as I said, three veterans.

Let's get it going, gentlemen.

I'm looking forward to this.

First question.

ANNOUNCER: In 1966, Jim Delligatti of Western Pennsylvania invented a product that's more than a hot seller.

Though it took him more than two years to sell his company on the idea, it has since sold 14 billion.

What did Delligatti invent?

Was it the A. Slinky, B. car air freshener, C. butane lighter, or D. McDonald's Big Mac?

LYNN CULLEN: Jim Delligatti responsible for one of those things.

A Slinky, a car air freshener, a butane lighter, or the Big Mac?

And I need to know what you have chosen.

Kevin Nelson.

I know it's not the Slinky.

If it was the Big Mac, he would have got something from Clinton by now.

[laughter] I'm guessing C. the butane lighter.

Butane lighter, yes.

At least the Presidential Medal of Honor or something.

Chris?

Well, I went with B. the car air freshener because I can smell so many of them as I drive along.

There must be that many millions or billions of them out there.

I can't stand the way they smell.

CHRIS MOORE: Mm-hmm.

Strong.

Yuck.

Stephen.

Well, I know the guy who invented the Slinky is from Western Pennsylvania.

I don't know if that's him, but-- the other thing is I assume that the butane lighter caught fire on the car air freshener and that produced the Big Mac.

[laughter] [trombone slide] So slinky is the only thing that's left.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, so it is a Slinky.

Oh my, we've got a slinky, and air freshener, and a butane lighter.

Do we have a correct answer?

ANNOUNCER: The answer is D. the Big Mac sandwich.

Jim Delligatti, a McDonald's franchise owner in Western Pennsylvania, conceived the idea of combining two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun back in 1966.

It took him two years to sell the company on the idea.

But since then, 14 billion have been sold.

While Delligatti waited for the go ahead from company headquarters, he perfected the ingredients of his special sauce in the kitchen of his suburban Pittsburgh restaurant.

To this day, he won't say what's in it.

On May 4th, 1993, the Big Mac celebrated its 25th anniversary with the renaming of one of Pittsburgh's streets, to you guessed it, Big Mac Way.

KEVIN NELSON: Just what does a Big Mac weigh?

Listen to this.

Delligatti received a plaque from McDonald's for this, nothing monetary.

A plaque.

Can you believe it?

He gives them this invention, they make billions of dollars off it, and they give him a plaque.

What a crock.

[drumroll and cymbal crash] [laughter] Thank you, thank you!

CHRIS MOORE: But seriously, folks.

Moving on.

Our next question, please.

[ominous music playing] ANNOUNCER: On May 30th, 1893, the greatest circus train wreck in the history of the world occurred in Tyrone Pennsylvania.

What circus was it?

The A. Walter L. Main circus, B. Barnum and Bailey circus, C. Cole circus, or D. Ringling Brothers circus?

LYNN CULLEN: Oh, my.

The greatest circus train wreck in the world.

It happened right here in Pennsylvania.

Which circus was it, though?

Chris Moore?

I picked C. Cole circus because that's coal territory where it happened and-- [laughter] LYNN CULLEN: Oh, my.

I don't know.

LYNN CULLEN: Oh, well, it's as good a reason as any, I suppose.

Steven?

I figure that the Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey must have crashed at some other time because they all joined together eventually.

Walter Main, I've never heard of.

Cole, I've never heard of.

I went with Cole for the same reason he did.

LYNN CULLEN: [laughs] Kevin?

I'm not going to resort to train wreck humor.

I went with A. Walter L. Main circus for no apparent reason.

Yes, OK, well, we'll see.

Did any of these guys know what they were guessing about?

ANNOUNCER: The answer is A.

The Walter L. Main circus.

On May 30th, 1893, the Walter L. Main circus train was on its way to a performance in Lewistown.

Loaded with performers, animals, and crew, the train ran out of control and derailed at McCann's Crossing near Tyrone in Blair county.

There were 250 people on board.

Six people and 60 horses were killed in the wreckage, and many others were wounded.

Several wild animals escaped in the confusion, including lions, apes, panthers, an alligator, and a zebra.

The people of Tyrone banded together to help recover the animals and rebuild the circus.

The circus returned to Tyrone two years later to remember those who died and to thank the citizens who helped put the Walter L. Main circus back on track.

Was that an unintentional pun?

Back on track?

CHRIS MOORE: Undoubtedly.

Yeah, the Walter L. Main kept going until 1905.

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, speaking of animals, you're a cat lover.

Absolutely.

I know you're a major cat lover.

Penelope, Myfanwy, and Mirth.

LYNN CULLEN: What was the second one?

Myfanwy.

LYNN CULLEN: Myfanwy?

Means beloved one.

LYNN CULLEN: Does it?

She's the world's cutest Siamese.

And you're a Marx brothers lover from the look of your tie.

Well, thank you.

I can bring this up.

And this is in honor of you.

Groucho, of course, a big part of his career was hosting "You Bet Your Life".

LYNN CULLEN: Yes, that's true.

That's true.

Now, I don't know if you like cigars.

You could have given me a cigar, that's right.

Chris Moore.

Chris and I both have talk radio shows in Pittsburgh.

We do one hour opposite each other.

We're also-- we've also had television careers in Pittsburgh.

You're still going strong.

Which do you like better, TV or radio?

I like radio now because it's really interactive and you get the challenge of being challenged all the time, and you get to challenge people.

I agree completely.

Isn't it fun?

CHRIS MOORE: Oh, absolutely.

Absolutely, absolutely.

Steven, president of the Pennsylvania Psychological Association.

Yes, ma'am.

LYNN CULLEN: Hey, would drive you nuts.

Uh.

[laughter] No, I started out that way, I'm afraid.

It didn't drive me anywhere.

LYNN CULLEN: Yeah.

It's sort of an administrative kind of a thing?

Well, yeah, there are about 5,000 psychologists in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and somebody has to keep them informed.

OK, OK. Or keep them in line or something.

Well, the next question does not have to do with psychology, it has to do with, I think it's called, philology.

ANNOUNCER: Founded by Harry W. Stouffer in 1927, York Narrow Fabrics was one of many York County textile industries important to the nation's war effort during World War II.

More notable is the fact that one of the company's specialty products provided the basis for an expression commonly used today.

Is the term A. run of the mill, B. rule of thumb, C. brass tacks, or D. red tape?

LYNN CULLEN: Well, this is interesting.

One of those commonly used phrases, idiomatic expressions, came from one of the products produced by York Narrow Fabrics.

Which one is the question, of course.

And Steven, what's your answer?

It's the run of the Narrow Fabrics mill, I guess.

LYNN CULLEN: A. run of the mill.

I'm getting down to brass tacks.

I went with C. LYNN CULLEN: You did, did you?

OK, we're all over the board here.

Chris?

We are all over the board.

I picked red tape, because they said they worked with the military, and I've been in the military.

[laughter] Well, you might be on to something here.

Let's see.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is D. red tape.

One of York Narrow Fabric's longtime specialties is a thin, narrow, red cotton tape used to bind government documents.

So the commonly used term red tape originated in and still has strong connections with York to this day.

York Narrow Fabrics employed 190 people at its peak and made a variety of cotton tapes.

Some of these tapes were used for tying vegetables such as celery and asparagus.

Others were used in manufacture of clothing, mattresses, lampshades, and other products.

York Narrow Fabrics continues to make the red notary tape that they're famous for, but their bread and butter today are those handy hanger loops found inside women's skirts.

Oh, yeah!

Oh my, those hanger loops that stick out all the time.

You have to keep tucking them back in.

Rule of thumb, by the way, originated because it was legal to beat your wife, but you could not beat her with anything that was thicker than your thumb.

That's when wife beating was run of the mill, I guess, and legal.

[cymbal crash] [everyone groans] All right, all right.

Let's get to the score.

The score is Kevin, 1, Chris, 1, and Steven, at this point, zilch.

[applause] I'm ashamed.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, OK, OK. Our first Mystery Pennsylvanian clue.

Born in 1844 into an affluent Philadelphia family, she studied at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts.

1844, an affluent Philadelphia family.

She studied at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts.

Well, if you know it at this first clue, you get 3 points at the end of the game.

You know, quite possibly, our mystery Pennsylvanian, whoever she may be, would know the answer to this next question.

ANNOUNCER: On July 6th, 1874, a mystery was the headline of the Philadelphia inquirer.

The article that followed explained the ordeal of four-year-old Charley Ross.

Was the mystery America's first A. major kidnapping for ransom, B. paternity suit, C. recorded case of amnesia, or D. exorcism?

LYNN CULLEN: Ooohh.

Scary.

Ooh.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, what was the mystery of little Charley Ross?

Kidnapping, paternity suit, amnesia, or exorcism?

Kevin Nelson?

There was a kidnapping, but they woke him up.

But I went for, uh-- CHRIS MOORE: Badoom boom.

[cymbal crash] Thank you very much.

[audience groans] LYNN CULLEN: They'll turn on you in a minute.

I know.

I went for A.

A. Oh, you did go for kidnapping?

KEVIN NELSON: Yes.

OK, Chris?

I don't know if I pressed the button, but I would say A. also.

I don't even remember.

LYNN CULLEN: You did press the button.

I did.

OK. LYNN CULLEN: You said kidnapping for ransom.

Stephen Ragusea?

I went for exorcism just because I loved the movie.

LYNN CULLEN: [laughs] OK, OK. Let's see what the right answer is.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is A. America's first major kidnapping for ransom.

Charley Ross and his six-year-old brother had been playing outside their house in Germantown when two men drove up in a wagon.

The men invited the boys to take a ride, and they accepted.

The older son said the men gave him money to go and buy shooting crackers.

When he returned, the wagon and his little brother were gone.

The two kidnappers demanded $20,000 from Charley's wealthy father for his safe return.

Mr. Ross refused to pay, determined not to compound a felony.

Later, Mr. Ross tried to negotiate with the kidnappers through classified ads but never paid the ransom following police advice.

The kidnappers were finally trapped during a robbery and both were shot to death.

Unfortunately, little Charley Ross was never found.

A tragic story.

P. T. Barnum, by the way, offered to pay the ransom for Charey Ross if he could then exhibit Charley Ross when he was released.

And obviously, Barnum's revolting offer was ignored by the family.

Yuck.

Well, from that tragic story to the potentially ridiculous with our next question.

ANNOUNCER: With help from Penn State's cooperative extension, farmers in Lancaster county and elsewhere in Pennsylvania are breeding and raising an alternative to traditional livestock.

Is it A. emus, B. kangaroos, C. deer, or D. mealworms?

LYNN CULLEN: Oh my, I should say, those are all alternatives to traditional livestock, are they not?

Emus, kangaroos, deer, or oh, I'll tell ya, I had a tasty mealworm casserole just the other day.

[laughter] Oh my.

Chris Moore, what do you think?

It's emus.

Very tasty.

LYNN CULLEN: Emus.

Mm-hmm.

LYNN CULLEN: It is emus.

You seem very certain.

At first, I thought that when you feed mealworms to kangaroos, you get emus.

But then I was thinking about it and I remembered that emus are a kind of bird that they're currently raising for livestock.

Oh.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Yeah.

We have two emus.

Do we have three?

No.

Some idiot has to say mealworms.

[laughter] LYNN CULLEN: And you are that man.

It's good to pass up.

LYNN CULLEN: And I appreciate.

Absolutely.

Well, you know, they are a good source of protein.

I know they are, they are.

[trombone slide] If you want to eat them.

CHRIS MOORE: Mmm.

Boy.

Let's see what the correct answer is.

Oi.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is A. emus.

Penn State's cooperative extension service believes the flightless 150 pound emu could be a good alternative to raising cattle and sheep for some Lancaster county farmers.

Similar in taste to beef, but lower in fat, calories, and cholesterol, emu meat is endorsed by the American Heart Association.

But the ostrich relative is a native of Australia and is illegal to import.

Farmers must rely on the roughly 10,000 birds already in the US to build up the emu population.

And at $40,000 for a pair of breeding birds, it may be some time before emu burgers are a, well, palatable meal.

Oh my, my, my.

Look at that.

Hey, listen, if you are making out a shopping list anytime soon, boneless emu-- I'm not kidding you-- boneless emu sold for $16.98 a pound recently at D'Angelo Brothers in Philadelphia.

And the breeding stock is $20,000 apiece, and they lay black eggs that are about this large.

I've seen them.

Yeah, you've seen them?

Oh boy.

Anyway, the price isn't-- CHRIS MOORE: I've laid a number of black eggs in my time.

[laughter] Oh my.

Maybe we should just move right on to the score.

The score.

Chris, you are in the lead with 3 points.

Kevin has 2.

Steven has 1.

And that's a close game.

[applause] Here is our second clue for the Mystery Pennsylvanian today.

Though never a wife or mother herself, mother and child were a common theme of her masterful work.

Though never a wife or mother herself, mother and child were a common theme of her masterful work.

She was born in 1844 into an affluent or affluent Philadelphia family.

She studied at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts.

Oh, they don't quite know it.

Somewhere in the recesses of your gray matter there that name lies if you could just find it.

Let's move on to the next question.

ANNOUNCER: Wilmer L. Stoltz was a native of Williamsburg Pennsylvania in Blair county and one of our nation's most famous pilots.

His history-making flight in 1928 earned him the reputation for being one of the boldest young adventurers who wrote history in the skies.

Did Stoltz A. pilot the first plane to carry US airmail, B. pilot the plane that carried Admiral Byrd on his first fly-over of the south pole, C. pilot the plane that carried the first woman across the Atlantic Ocean, or D. pilot the first plane to take off and land on pontoons?

LYNN CULLEN: Hmm.

He piloted the first plane to do something.

Carry the airmail, fly Admiral Byrd over the south pole, carry a woman across the Atlantic, or take off and land on pontoons?

Wilmer Stoltz.

Stephen Ragusea?

He looked like a guy who'd have big feet, so I went with pontoons.

LYNN CULLEN: Ah, yeah.

I'll tell you.

What can you say to something like that, Kevin?

I don't know.

I need something to come in the mail.

I went with A. the first plane to carry US airmail.

LYNN CULLEN: OK, a reasonable choice to be sure.

I went with A too because I know that right after that flight, the cost of a first stamp-- first class postage stamp went up $0.02.

[laughter] Yeah, that's it.

It's about to go up again, I hear.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is C. Wilmer Lauer Stoltz piloted the three-motored monoplane Friendship 2,000 miles across the Atlantic ocean on June 17th to 18th, 1928.

He was accompanied by his aircraft mechanic, Lou Gordon, and a Boston social worker named Amelia Earhart.

The flight earned Earhart the distinction of being the first woman to fly across the Atlantic ocean non-stop.

Stoltz' history-making flight brought great fame to his native town and to all of Blair county.

Sadly, on July 3rd, 1929, just one year after his heroic flight, Wilmer Stoltz died when the plane he was flying crashed near Roosevelt Field on Long Island.

We want to thank Don Metz of Williamsburg for sending us that information and question.

And we will thank him by giving him a year's free subscription to Pennsylvania Magazine.

OK, next question, please.

[fife music playing] ANNOUNCER: A letter from General George Washington hangs on the wall of the Hope Lodge located on us route 309 north of Philadelphia.

The letter advises the commander of troops camped there that the owner of the lodge is a personal friend of Washington's and that his men are A. not to flirt with the owner's daughters, B. not to take baths within sight of the lodge, C. to cut their firewood from neighbor's properties, or D. to guard themselves against a band of armed redcoats?

LYNN CULLEN: OK, George Washington wrote many a letter, but what were the contents of this one?

Don't flirt with those girls, don't take baths, take your firewood from the neighbors, or watch out for the redcoats?

Kevin Nelson.

Not to take baths within sight of the lodge, and I'm not sure why.

LYNN CULLEN: You're not sure.

Well, because of the daughters.

You wouldn't want the daughters to see men.

No.

No, that's not it?

No, I'm thinking it might be because the enemy soldiers might be able to sneak up on them naked or-- I have no idea but B. LYNN CULLEN: Chris Moore.

Well, the neighbors were redcoat sympathizers and so they cut their firewood and not his firewood.

LYNN CULLEN: That makes sense.

All right.

Stephen?

I selected B. but I misread it.

I thought it said not to take lodging within sight of the baths.

Made more sense to me that way.

LYNN CULLEN: Well, what the heck, huh.

Oh, brother.

It's almost over.

I think it's almost over.

Let's get the answer.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is C. William West owned Hope Lodge between 1776 and 1782.

He was a strong supporter of General George Washington and the continental cause.

Washington's letter directed the army encamped there to take no wood belonging to Mr. West but supply themselves out of the woods adjoining to his land.

The letter was issued December 25th, 1777 by one of Washington's aides soon after the continental army had marched from the hills around Hope Lodge to Valley Forge.

Yeah.

I'm sure the owners of the woods adjoining Mr. West's land-- Big Washington supporters, yeah.

--didn't vote for George Washington in the first election.

I mean, they must have been really, really happy with that letter.

Honest to Pete.

See, even, you know, the pres-- that would be a big scandal today, right?

Special favors for his friends.

CHRIS MOORE: Forestgate.

Absolute-- Forestgate.

[rimshot] That's right.

OK. We have another question, believe it or not.

ANNOUNCER: Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh is the world's first university to offer a degree in what?

A. paleozoology, B. stand-up comedy, C. virtual reality basketweaving, or D. bagpipe playing.

LYNN CULLEN: Oh, we love virtual reality basket weaving, and we're rooting for it.

We are, we are.

Listen, stranger things have happened, I'm sure, in the halls of higher academia.

Chris Moore?

This is strange.

Knowing Andrew-- where Andrew Carnegie was-- I'm going to go-- where he was from-- I'm going to go with bagpipe playing.

LYNN CULLEN: Oh, there's some sense in that.

He was a Scot, right?

Mm-hmm.

LYNN CULLEN: Yeah, absolutely.

Chris-- ah, Stephen, excuse me.

I really-- I almost went for virtual reality basket weaving just for the same reason I went for exorcism earlier.

I love the movie.

Yeah, you remember that?

LYNN CULLEN: [laughs] But I went for paleozoology because I don't know what it means.

[laughter] No, I know what it means.

Yeah, you do?

OK. Something about dinosaurs, maybe.

Kevin?

The same mine that bought mealworms this time bought into stand-up comedy, so I went with B. Oh, all right, all right.

Well, I could see where that could be a possibility maybe sorta.

Let's look.

ANNOUNCER: The answer is D. bagpipe playing.

In 1991, Carnegie Mellon University's Department of Music became the first conservatory in the world to offer a complete classical program of music study leading to a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree in music performance with bagpipes as the principal instrument.

Among the elective courses offered in the program are history of bagpipe, bagpipe reed making, and bagpipe maintenance.

CHRIS MOORE: If you're going to play you gotta work on it I guess.

STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Right up there with nuclear physics.

Oh, this is our third clue.

Caught me by surprise.

She was influenced greatly by her close friend and mentor, Edgar Degas, and today, ranks among the greatest of the American-born impressionists.

She was influenced by her close friend and mentor, Edgar Degas, and ranks among the greatest of American-born impressionists.

Born in 1844, Philadelphia.

Never a mother herself, but mother and child were a common theme of her masterful work.

Yeah.

There's still-- Steven's still writing, scribbling furiously away.

Chris looks like he has indigestion.

[laughter] It was the donuts before the show.

OK. Oh, no, you disappoint me.

The only American impressionist I know is Rich Little, and he's Canadian.

I have no idea.

You LYNN CULLEN: Don't?

I'm dumber than a red brick.

All right, well, art is not your-- No.

No, not your strong suit.

Well, at first, when you gave the first question, I thought it was Mrs. Lindberg because you connected it somehow to the kidnapping.

You said she might have known something.

But then 1844, that was too old.

The second one, I laid another black egg.

[laughter] And the third, I could only come up with Grandma Moses as a painter.

I don't-- when you said impression-- No, I think she was a primitive artist, not an impressionist.

None of you took Art Appreciation 101, I can tell.

I have you covered on that one.

LYNN CULLEN: You do?

Yeah?

Well, my my wife was an art-- is an artist.

And she's going to be very angry at me for not knowing this.

Actually, I do know it.

You'll see.

My first guess was the ever-present Zsa Zsa Gabor who seemed to fit the picture at first.

Then I realized we needed to go more into the painting line, so I went with Grandma Moses.

As soon as you brought up impressionism, I knew it was Neo Grandma Moses.

[laughter] CHRIS MOORE: [laughs] Neo Grandma.

Did I get it?

Yeah, yeah, we get it.

We get it.

None of you got it, however.

Oh, brother.

For those of you at home who already knew, this will come as no surprise.

ANNOUNCER: Mary Stevenson Cassatt was born in 1844 into an affluent Philadelphia family.

It was against her father's strong opposition that she began her career as a painter.

Although never a wife or mother herself, she is best known for her brilliant portraits of women and children.

She received her classical training at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts in Philadelphia and later traveled alone to Europe, eventually settling in Paris.

In 1877, Edgar Degas, who became her close friend and mentor, invited her to exhibit her work with a radical group of artists known today as the Impressionists.

Cassatt accepted.

Although Cassatt's artistic talent was often overlooked in this country until after her death in 1926, she is recognized today as one of America's finest artists.

Mary Cassatt, a famous Pennsylvanian.

Well, famous to some, but certainly not to our panel.

Never heard of her.

Never heard of her.

KEVIN NELSON: We've been busy.

Listen, In this duel of the veteran panelists of "The Pennsylvania Game", Chris Moore-- STEPHEN RAGUSEA: Chris got 'em all right.

--ran away with it.

[applause] And for this stellar victory, we will give you 3 pounds and four different flavors-- CHRIS MOORE: Of emu meat!

--of homemade fudge.

CHRIS MOORE: Ooh.

From the Happy Valley Friendly Farm located in Spring Mills Pennsylvania.

Just what I need.

LYNN CULLEN: Made on the premises from goat's milk.

Thank you, you were wonderful.

Thank you, audience, wonderful.

And thank you most of all.

Hope you join us again on "The Pennsylvania Game".

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