>> NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND 18 OTHERS HAVE BEEN INKITED BY AN ATLANTA AREA GRAND JURY AND WHAT COMES NEXT.

>>> A COALITION OF PRE-PRODUCTIVE AND CIVIL RIGHT'S GROUPS SPEAKS TO ABORTION RIGHTS.

AND A BEST-SELLING AUTHOR AND ARIZONA RESIDENT RELEASES HER NEWEST THRILLER.

THAT'S NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

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FOR THE FOURTH TIME THIS YEAR, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN CRIMINALLY CHARGED.

THE LATEST INDICTMENT CAME LAST NIGHT IN GEORGIA.

FULTON COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY, FANI WILLIS ACCUSED HIM TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION.

WE WELCOME PAUL CHARLTON.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 91 CHARGES AND HOW DOES THIS DIFFER?

>> THE SINGLE MOST DISTINGUISHING FEATURE IS THE NUMBER OF DEFENDANTS, 19.

THIS IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW INDICTMENTS I'VE SEEN WHERE THERE IS A TABLE OF CONTENTS TO LET US READ MORE EASILY THAN 97 PAGES AND CERTAINLY THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE INDICTMENT IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS THREE SO FAR.

>> THE D.A.

IN THIS CASE IS USING THE RICO ACT AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS AND WHY SHE WOULD USE THAT.

>> RACKETEER INFLUENCE ACT AND WHAT THEY USED TO TAKE DOWN THE MAFIA WHILE YOU WERE WATCHING A MAFIA FILMS OR PROSECUTORS.

AND MORE RECENTLY STATES HAVE ADOPTED THIS FEDERAL STATUTE TO USE THIS IN BROADER TERMS, FRAUD CASES, FOR EXAMPLE, OFTENTIMES PROSECUTED AS RICO STATUTES.

WHEN I WAS THE ATTORNEY DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND SUPERVISOR AS THE U.S. ATTORNEY, I TRIED PERSONALLY AND SUPERVISED C RICO CASES.

YOU CAN PUT IN FRONT OF A JURY THE WHOLE STORY, IF YOU WILL.

SO IF YOU THINK BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HALF MAFIA, HERE ARE SHAKEDOWN ACTS AND HOMICIDES OR DRUG DEALS AND ALL OF THAT WOULD COME INTO COURT AND PUT BEFORE THE JURY.

IN THIS CASE, MISS WILLIS, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN ATLANTA IS SAYING I HAVE A WHOLE SCOPE OF CRIMES THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND OTHERS HAVE COMMITTED AND I WISH TO PUT ALL OF THOSE CRIMES AND THE ALL OF THOSE DEFENDANTS TO TELL THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE THIS JURY.

>> WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU HAVE TO PROVE WHEN IT'S A RICO CASE, THAT IT'S DIFFERENT FROM CHARGING SOMEONE WITH A FALSE STATEMENT OR ANOTHER?

>> IN THECISMEST THE SIMPLEST TERMS, AN ORGANIZATION -- AND HERE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS TRYING TO OVERTURN THE LAWFUL ELECTION RESULTS IN GEORGIA AND IN OTHER STATES INCLUDING OUR OWN.

AND SHE SAYS THAT HE COMMITTED ALONG WITH OTHERS TWO OTHER ACTS TO FURTHER THAT CRIME OF OVERTURNS, SHE SAYS, THE LAWFUL ELECTIONS OF PRESIDENT BIDEN.

>> YOU MENTIONED ARIZONA BECAUSE IT MENTIONED OTHER STATES AND I THINK PENNSYLVANIA, MICHIGAN AND ARIZONA?

>> CORRECT.

>> YAY!

I KNEW YOU WOULD READ EVERY WORD OF THOSE.

[ Laughter ] >> SO WHY INCLUDE THE OTHER STATES?

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE?

>> THE VERY BREADTH OF THIS STATUTE ALLOWS HER TO ENCOMPASS EVIDENCE NOT JUST WITHIN HER STATE BUT THE WHOLE OF THE UNITED STATES.

THE PICTURE SHE PAINTS, THE NARRATIVE SHE WANTS TO PRESENT BEFORE THE JURY IS A NATIONWIDE STORY.

SHE SAYS THE PRESIDENT AND HIS OFTENTIMES ATTORNEYS AND OTHER COLLEAGUES, OTHER COCONSPIRATORS CHARGED IN THIS INDICTMENT WORKED TO OVERTHROW THE LAWFUL ELECTION OF NOW PRESIDENT BIDEN AND THAT THEY DID SO IN A NUMBER OF STATES INCLUDING OUR OWN.

ARIZONA IS MENTIONED IN A NUMBER OF SPECIFIC REF FREQUENTS CALLED OVERACTS AND CONSPIRACY CHARGES AND ASSEMBLEAGE OF FAKE ELECTORS BOTH IN ARIZONA AND IN GEORGIA.

>> IN ADDITION TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, THERE ARE 18 OTHERS NAMED, FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF, FORMER PERSONAL STAFF AND OTHERS WHO WORKED CLOSELY WITH HIM.

DOES THAT CREATE A SITUATION WHERE IT MIGHT BE, LIKE, EACH MAN FOR HIMSELF OR ARE THEY ALL IN IT TOGETHER?

HOW WOULD THAT PLAY OUT, DO YOU EXPECT?

>> IN A TYPICAL CASE, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, AMONG THESE 19 INDIVIDUALS CHARGED WITH CRIMES, SOME WOULD AGREE TO PLEAD GUILTY AND COOPERATE OF THOSE IN THE HIERARCHY ABOVE THEM.

YOU MAY SEE THE CHIEF OF STAFF PROVIDE EVIDENCE AGAINST FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

WHETHER THAT OCCURS OR NOT, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE LAWFUL AND ETHICAL STRATEGIES THAT THE PROSECUTOR COULD USE HERE.

MISS WILLIS HAS SAID SHE'LL TAKE ALL 19 OF THESE INDIVIDUALS TO TRIAL WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

MY EXPERIENCE SAYS ALL 19 ARE NOT GOING TO TRIAL AND THIS WILL NOT BE A TRIAL IN THE FEW MONTHS.

THIS IS A TRIAL IF IT MOVES AT LIGHT SPEED WILL OCCUR PROBABLY SHORT OF TWO YEARS, AND MAYBE LONGER THAN TWO YEARS.

WE WILL NOT SEE ALL 19 INDIVIDUALS GO TO TRIAL FOR THE REASONS WE JUST DISCUSSED.

SOME NUMBER WILL IMMEDIATE GUILTYPLEAD GUILTYAND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> YOU MENTIONED A TIMELINE THAT YOU THINK FOR A TRIAL MOVING FORWARD AND THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN ISSUED A STATEMENT CALL BDA, AND ALSO SAID SHE USED THE TIMING IN A WAY TO BE STRATEGIC IN ORDER TO INFLUENCE NEXT YEAR'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION SHE HAS BEEN INVESTIGATING OR THE OFFICE HAS BEEN INVESTIGATING FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS AND IS THAT A VALID CRITICISM?

>> IT'S A FAIR QUESTION TO ASK WHY NOT?

WHY THIS MANY DEFENDANTS AND WHY FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, BUT ONE OF THE GREAT BENEFITS OF OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND WHY THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD IS THE JURY SYSTEM.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP OR ANY OF THE CO- COMPARECO-CONTOURS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP OR OTHERS ARE GUILTY FOR WHICH THEY'VE BEEN CHARGED.

>> IF YOU WERE IN ANY OF THE DEFENDANT'S SHOES, HOW WOULD YOU BE FEELING?

>> I CAN TELL YOU YOU FEEL AS IF THE DAMOCLES IS OVER YOUR HEAD BECAUSE YOU ARE CHARGED WITH THE WEIGHT OF A CRIME THAT CARRIES WITH IT A MANDATORY MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS INCARCERATION.

AS I SAID, THIS IS A TRIAL THAT WILL NOT OCCUR PASSED A YEAR OR, PERHAPS, TWO YEARS.

FOR THAT NEXT PERIOD OF TIME, YOU ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON DEALING WITH THIS CHARGE.

YOUR LIFE HAS CHANGED AND YOU'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE ACCUSATIONS, THE VERY PUBLIC ACCUSATIONS AND THE REALITY THAT YOU HAVE TO NOW EXHAUST A GREAT DEAL OF RESOURCES TO DEFEND YOURSELF OR HOPE THAT THE PRESIDENT, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, WILL DO AS HE HAS IN THESE OTHER CASES AND PAY FOR YOUR LAWYER'S FEES.

>> PAUL CHARLTON, YOU'RE WORTH THE FEE WE PAID, WHICH WAS NOTHING AND WORTH SO MUCH ELSE.

A 98 PAGE INDICTMENT WORD FOR WORD AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BREAKING IT DOWN IN A WAY EVERYTHING CAN UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> UP NEXT, ADVOCACY GROUPS TO GET A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO PRESERVE ABORTION RIGHTS.

CHRISTINA ESTES ELI CRANE RIGHT.

>> A COALITION OF REPRODUCTIVE AND CIVIL RIGHT'S GROUPS LAUNCHED AN EFFORT TO ENSURE ABORTION RIGHTS IN THE ARIZONA CONSTITUTION.

THE COALITION LEAD BY THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES OF ARIZONA, PLANNED PARENT HADHOOD SEEK TO PLACE THE CONSTITUTIONAL AGENT ON THE BALLOT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> TELL ME WHAT THE LANGUAGE WOULD INCLUDE.

IT'S STILL BEING LOOKED AT, CORRECT?

>> THE 30-DAY OF LEGISLATIVE REVIEW PERIOD, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE ESTABLISHES A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO ABORTION AND IT PROVIDES SOME GUIDANCE TO THE COURT WHEN DECIDING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF ANY LAWS THAT LIMIT THAT RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, AT A TIME WHERE WE HAVE A PRETTY ANTIABORTION EXTREMIST LEGISLATURE, WE FEEL THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO EXPAND THE RIGHT TO ABORTION AND IT REPRESENTS A FIRST STEP IN PROTECTING REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM FOR ALL ARIZONANS.

>> THIS IS MEANT TO ENSURE EVERY INDIVIDUAL HAS A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO AN ABORTION AND DOES IT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AT ALL LANGUAGE REGARDING FETAL VIABILITY?

>> YES, IT'S UP TO FETAL VIABILITY AND THEREAFTER AND WE LOOK AT THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF A PREGNANT PERSON AND JUDGMENT OF THEIR MEDICAL PROVIDER TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT POST VIABILITY ABORTION IS AN OPTION FOR THEM.

>> FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T AWARE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VIABILITY, IN MEDICINE, WHEN A FETUS WOULD BE ABLE TO SURVIVE OUTSIDE OF THE WOMB AND NO UNIVERSAL CONSENSUS AND 22 TO 24 WEEKS.

IN MOST CASES, PEOPLE AGREE THAT 24 WEEKS WHAT IT WAS BEFORE LAST YEAR WHEN GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY SIGNED A LAW RESTRICTING ABORTION AFTER 15 WEEKS.

>> UH-HUH.

>> SO HOW DID YOU COME UP WITH THE 24 AS A NUMBER?

IS IT BECAUSE THAT WAS IN PLACE OR WHAT DISCUSSIONS WERE MADE BEHIND THE SCENES?

>> WE DON'T FIND IT HELPFUL TO TALK ABOUT VI ABILITY ACTSABILITY IN WEEKS.

THIS IS KIND OF A MOVING TARGET, RIGHT?

SO WHEN WERE WERE DETERMINING THE LANGUAGE, WE STAYED AWAY FROM THE WEEK'S DISCUSSION AND THE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING DECISIONS BACK IN THE HANDS OF PREGNANT PEOPLE AND HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS.

>> SO WHEN THE DRAFT LEAKED DRAFT OF THE SUPREME COURT OF ROE V. WADE LAST YEAR, AN EFFORT TO SCRAMBLE TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT FOR THE NOVEMBER MIDTERM ELECTION, WHAT IS DIFFERENT THIS TIME AROUND?

>> WELL, I THINK WE ENVIRONMENT BENEFITHAVE THEBENEFIT OF A LOT OF TIME AND THEY PUT SOMETHING TO QUICKLY TO CAPTIALIZE ON THE ANGER ON THE DOBB'S DECISION AND EIGHT WEEKS FROM START TO FINISH TO GET THEIR LANGUAGE OUT AND COLLECT ALL OF THE SIGNATURES NEEDED TO MAKE THE BALLOT.

THEY WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF A LACK OF TIME.

AND SO, WE STARTED PLANNING THIS AROUND TEN MONTHS AGO, AROUND THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS KNOWING WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING FOR 2024.

AT THAT POINT, ALL OF OUR GROUPS GOT TOGETHER AND WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO REALLY TALK TO AND HAVE ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS THAT WE FEEL ARE REPRODUCTIVE STAKEHOLDERS AND A GROUP OF POLICY FOLKS TOGETHER TO CRACK THE LANGUAGE AND HIRED POLLING AND RESEARCH FOLKS.

NOW WE ENVIRONMENT LANGUAGE WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE WE FILED LAST TUESDAY.

>> YOU NEED CLOSE TO 2,000 SIGNATURES BY JULY 4th AND THAT SOUNDS DAUNTING.

IS THAT DOABLE AND WHAT WILL YOU HAVE TO DO TO REACH THAT?

>> LET THE BLOOD OF MY FIRST BORN -- [ Laughter ] >> WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EXCITEMENT SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT ON TUESDAY.

BUT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A CANVASSING PROGRAM.

A COMBINATION OF VOLUNTEERED POWER AND PAID POWER TO GET THE SIGNATURES AND, OF COURSE, WE'LL TRY TO GET ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT 400,000 PLUS BECAUSE THOSE SIGNATURES NEED TO BE ACTUALLY VERIFIED.

>> IN THE PAST, WE'VE SEEN SOMETIMES COMPETING AMENDMENTS ON BALLOTS WHEN WORD GETS OUT ON ONE THING, PEOPLE WILL COME UP WITH THEIR OWN AND SOMETIMES IT CONFUSES VOTERS AND VOTERS MAKE A CLEAR DISTINCTION ON THEIR REFERENCE AND WHAT DO YOU EXPECT AND DO YOU HAVE PLANS FOR THAT?

>> I THINK WE'VE PLANNED FOR EVERY SCENARIO AND WE'VE SEEN THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE KEEN ON, YOU KNOW, PROTECTING ABORTION RIGHTS AND SOMETHING OUT OF A REFERRAL PROCESS.

WE MAY SEE SOMETHING FROM OUR ANTIABORTION FOLKS HERE IN THE STATE.

BUT WE PLAN TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN AND WE PLAN TO GO TO 2024.

WE HAVE THE PEOPLE POWER AND MONEY TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

>> THANKS FOR COMING IN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST-SELLING AUTHOR ALLISON BRENNAN HAS LAUNCHED HER LATEST THRILLER CALLED "NORTH OF NOWHERE" WITH TWO KIDS KIDS ON THE RUN IN THE MONTANA WILDERNESS TRYING TO ESCAPE THEIR CRIMINAL FATHER.

SHE JOINS US NOW TO DISCUSS THIS MORE AND THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

I'VE READ IT AND REALLY ENJOYED IT.

I KNEW I WOULD ENJOY IT BECAUSE THE FIRST LINE, I'LL SHARE THIS IS TONY REED WAS ALIVE BECAUSE HE ALWAYS LISTENED TO HIS GUT AND SOUNDS LIKE, BUCKLE UP.

SO SET THE STORY UP FOR US.

>> WELL, I HAD THIS IDEA BACK IN 2016 AND I WANTED TO WRITE A STORY AFTER WRITING MULTIPLE SERIES, A STORY THAT WAS FINITE AND ABOUT FAMILY, FORGIVENESS, REDEMPTION AND IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME BECAUSE AS A WRITER, I WAS CONTRACTED FOR ALL MY SERIES BOOKS.

THIS BOOK I WAS WRITING ON SPEC, WHICH MEANS YOU WRITE IT WITHOUT KNOWING THAT IF YOU'LL SELL IT OR NOT.

TOI WAS WRITING IT IN BETWEEN MY CONTRACT AND NOVELS.

IT KIND OF CAME TO ME AND KRISTEN, THE MAIN CHARACTER, THE TEENAGER, SHE WAS THE MOST FULLY FORMED AND THEN FROM HER, I WANTED HER TO BASICALLY HAVE AN ESTRANGED RELATIONSHIP WITH HER FATHER.

THINGS JUST KIND OF CLICKED.

I DON'T PLOT AND OK, WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND PLANE CRASH AND IT'S A BLIZZARD AND WHAT HAPPENS THEN.

I'VE NEVER BEEN TO MONTANA IN THE SNOW.

WITH OIL SAYI ADAPTED EASILY TO ARIZONA BECAUSE I CAN HANDLE HEAT BETTER THAN SUBZERO TEMPERATURES.

THE PLANE CRASHED AND THEY HAD TO RUN AGAINST THEIR FATHER AND DEALING WITH A STORM AND THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE ABLE -- WILL THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR DAD?

KRISTEN, AND HER YOUNGER BROTHER, WHO IS DEAF AND WHAT HE'S FACING AS A DEAF CHILD, TEN YEARS OLD, WHERE HE CAN'T HEAR DANGER.

HE CAN SEE, COMMUNICATE AND HE CAN'T HEAR AN ANIMAL, LIKE A PREDATOR, LIKE A MOOSE OR A BAD GUY WILL GET HIM.

SO IT WAS REALLY, REALLY FUN, INTENSE TO WRITE SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT FROM MY POLICE PROCEDURALS.

>> YOU'VE SAID YOU WANTED TO WRITE A BACK TO SHOW THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT 100% EVIL.

I HAVE TO TELL YOU, ALISON, SOME COME CLOSE IN THIS BECOME, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON IT'S A GREAT BOOK.

THE OTHER THING I REALLY ENJOYED WAS READING ABOUT A BLIZZARD DURING OUR EXTREME HEAT WAIVE HEAT WAVE.

YOU MENTIONED YOU DID NOT EXPERIENCE SNOW IN MONTANA AND HOW DID YOU WRITE IT SO WELL?

>> MY HUSBAND WENT TO COLLEGE IN MON THANMONTANA, AND HE SAID, YOU SHOULD JUST TWEAK THAT.

YOU WON'T BE EASILY WALKING OUT OF THOSE WOODS AFTER BEING THERE FOR HOURS.

HE HELPED WITH A LOT OF DETAILS BECAUSE HE LOVED IN MONTANA.

AS SOON AS IT GETS COLD, I'M GONE.

>> JUST EXPERIENCING IT THROUGH YOUR WRITING?

>> YES.

>> THIS IS YOUR 45th WEEK AND YOUR FIRST STAND-ALONE AND WHAT WAS DIFFERENT FOR YOU ABOUT THIS EXPERIENCE?

>> WHEN YOU WRITE A SERIES, THE FIRST BOOK IN THE SERIES, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU'RE ESTABLISHING ALL OF THE CHARACTERS AND THE WORLD AND WHAT DOES THE CHARACTER DO AND THE FIRST BOOK IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO NAIL EVERYTHING AND AS THE SERIES GOES ON, YOU HAVE THE FOUNDATION.

SO I WON'T SAYS IT'S EASIER AND ONCE YOU KNOW YOUR CHARACTERS, YOU'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH MORE INTERESTING STORIES AND PLOTS FOR THE CHARACTERS.

A STAND-ALONE, YOU'RE CREATING BRAND NEW CHARACTERS AND THEY HAVE TO BE STRONG ENOUGH SO THAT THE END OF THE BOOK, THE READER GOES, THAT WAS A GOOD STORY AND THAT IS A COMPLETE AND FINISHED STORY.

>> YOU DO HAVE ANOTHER SERIES THAT YOU'LL BE STARTING NEXT YEAR AND I WANT TO MENTION IT BECAUSE IT'S SET IN PHOENIX, WHICH IS EXCITING.

>> I'M VERY EXCITED.

SO I CAME UP WITH THE IDEA -- MY DAUGHTER IS A PHOENIX PD OFFICER AND WE WOULD TALK AND I CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF A FAMILY OF PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS.

THEY'RE ANGEL HEARTS AND THEY'RE SET IN PHOENIX AND LIVE IN SUNNY SLOPE.

THIS IS WHERE MY DAUGHTER PATROLS AND TOOK ME ALL OVER TO GET A DEEP SENSE OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THE FIRST BOOK IS CALLED, "YOU'LL NEVER FIND ME."

IT COMES OUT NEXT JUNE.

SO I'VE TURNED IT IN AND WORKING REVISIONS NOW AND I LOVE WRITING BOOKS WHERE I LIVE.

I'VE WRITTEN BOOKS IN SACRAMENTO AND I TRY TO GO TO THE PLACES I WRITE MY STORIES.

>> ANYTHING IN SUNNY SLOPE THAT STOOD OUT TO YOU?

>> A LOT I LEARNED WAS JUST THE HISTORY AND ALSO, I THINK, SUNNY SLOPE IS A UNIQUE COMMUNITY.

IT REMINDS ME A LOT OF SACRAMENTO BECAUSE YOU HAVE HOMES THAT ARE OLDER AND STATELY AND ON LARGE PARCELS OF LAND AND CLOSER TO THE FREEWAY, THE HIGHEST CRIMEAS CRIME AREAS IN ALL OF PHOENIX.

I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IS VERY INTERESTING.

>> SO WE'LL LOOK FOR THAT NEXT YEAR BUT RIGHT NOW "NORTH OF NOWHERE."

ALLISON BRENNAN, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN, A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> I'M IN FOR TED SIMONS.

HAVE A GREAT NIGHT SCRAP.

>> WELCOME TO THE ARIZONA PBS STUDIOS AND THE I HOPE THAT YOU ARE APPRECIATING ARIZONA HORIZON TONIGHT.

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