>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

WE CONTINUE TO COVER REACTION TO THE ARIZONA SUPREME COURT UPHOLDING A LAW THAT BANS ALL ABORTIONS IN THE STATE.

ALSO TONIGHT THE IMPACT OF LOCAL GROUNDWATER REGULATIONOS AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONCERNS.

AND THIS WEEK MARKS 10 YEARS SINCE THE V. A.

SCANDAL BROKE.

THIS IS NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON I'M TED SIMONSFUL THE HEAD LINES FALL OUT FROM THE SUPREME COURT DECISION BANNING NEAR LOW ALL ABORTION IN ARIZONA.

DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TODAY ATTEMPTED REPEAL THE 1864 LAW THAT REPUBLICANS DID NOT ALLOW IN THE VOTE TO HAPPEN AND INSTEAD VOTED PUT THE HOUSE IN RECESS ALL IN SHOUTS AND YELLING AND PROTESTS FROM THE DEM CREDIT.

ON THE SENATE SIDE, A BILL TO REPEAL THE LAW WAS REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA ACCORDING TO LEGISLATIVE AID.

SENATE PRESIDENT WARREN PETERSON SAID HE IS UNSURE IF SENATE REPUBLICANS CAN GET ON THE SAME PAGE WHAT IF ANYTHING SHOULD BE DONE NEXT.

TRUMP SAID ARIZONA WENT TOO FAR WITH THE ABORTION BAN.

>> DID ARIZONA GO TOO FAR?

>> YEA, THEY DID.

[INAUDIBLE].

I'M SURETY GOVERNOR AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL BRING IT BACK TO REASON.

THAT WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF QUICKLY.

>> TRUMP LATER SAID THAT HE WOULD NOT SIGN A FEDERAL ABORTION BANFUL WE'LL HAVE MORE ON YESTERDAY'S ARIZONA SUPREME COURT RULE NOTHING JUST A MOBILE HOME >> ECONOMIC NEWS INFLATION INCREASED MORE THAN EXPECTED END NOTHING MARCH.

PRICE PICKED UP 3.5% UP FROM 3.2 IN FEBRUARY AND THE HIGHEST GAIN IN THE PAST 6 MONGST.

GAS AND HOUSING COSTS HALF OF THE INCREASE.

PRICES ROSE IN ALMOST EVERY MAJOR COMPREHENDING TODAY'S NOWS FROM THE LABOR STATISTICS MEANS THE FED IS ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO CUT INTEREST RATE IN JUNE AS HAD BEEN EXPECTED.

THAT SENT THE MARKET REELING THE DOW, NASDAQ TAKING HILTS THE DOW ONE POINT DOWN 5 HUH COMMUNITY AND CLOSED DOWN MORE THAN 400 POINTS.

>> WE CONTINUE COVERAGE OF THE DECISION BY THE ARIZONA SUPREME COURT UPHOLD A LAW THAT BANS ALMOSTAL ABORTIONS EXCEPT THOSE NEEDED TO SAFETY LIFE OF THE MOTHER THE PUNISHMENT 2 TO 5 YEARS IN PRISONFUL JOINING YOU TO TALK ABOUT HER SUPPORT OF THE ROWELLING IS PROLIFE ACTIVIST.

KATHY HEARING SENATE FOR ARIZONA POLICY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> GLAD TO BE HERE.

>> YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE RULING.

>> IT IS THE RIGHT RULING AND LEGAL OUTCOME.

JUSTICES WERE DECIDING ON AN ISSUE FOLLOWED THE 15 WEEK LIMIT OR LAW THAT PRESENTS ABORTIONS NECESSARY TO SAVE THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

FOR ALL THOSE THAT THINK JUDGES SHOULD NOT MAKE POLICY THIS IS A VICTORY.

THE JUDGES DID WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

HERE IS THE LAW THAT GO IN AFFECT THE POLICY IS UP TO LAW MAKERS.

>> STATUTE ORY NOT INSTITUTIONAL SIGNIFICANCE >> NO ISSUE OF CONSTITUTIONAL SIGNIFICANT CANS.

THE STATE CONSTITUTION WAS AT PLAY IN THIS.

THE 4 JUSTICES SAID, THAT THE PROPONENTS OF THE OVER TURNING THE LAW COULD REFILE WITHIN 14 BUSINESS DAYS IN THE LOWER COURT IF THEY WANT A CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE.

AGAIN IT WAS ONLY A CONSTRUCTION WHICH STATUTE WOULD BE IN AFFECT.

>> IS IT GOOD IN GENERAL?

YOU I KNOW YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON THE LAW BUT AS FAR AS ARIZONA IS IT GOOD FOR 160 PLUS YEAR OLD LAW TO SUPERCEDE SOMETHING THAT LAWMAKERS ADDRESS IN THE 2022?

ADDRESSED WITH I THINK A SMALL A.

THEY DID LEAVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT OUT D. THEY NOT?

>> LAW MAKERS IN 22 ADDRESSED BOTH.

AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHEN EVERYONE LOVES TO SAY 1854 LAW THIS LAW WAS IN AFFECT THE DAY THAT THE U.S. SUPREME COURT HAND DOWN ROE V WADE IN 1973.

THE LEGISLATOR REAFFIRMED IT.

AND A VOTE IN THE LATE 70s.

AND THEN THEY NEVER REPEALED TEMPERATURE THE 22 LAW WAS [INAUDIBLE] IN A WAY 15 WEEK LIMIT THE LAW IN ARIZONA.

IF ROE V WADE WAS OVER TURNED BY THE U.S. SUPREME COURT THE LEGISLATOR AND [INAUDIBLE] AT THE TIME SAID THE LAW WOULD GO BACK IN AFFECT AND ABORTIONS WOULD NOT BE LEGAL IN OUR STATE >> HOW DO YOU SWEAR THE GONER SAYING THIS IS NOT OUTCOME I WOULD PREFER >> ASK HIM THAT QUESTION.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE DID NOT HIDE, THE INTENT OF THE 22 LAW WAS EVIDENCE AND IN THE LANGUAGE.

IT SAID THAT THE STATUTE 133603 WAS NOT REPEALED BY THAT LAW.

YOU KNOW ANY LAWMAKER THAT VOTED ON IT IN THE DISCUSSIONS IN 2022, IT WAS CLEAR WHAT THE INTENT OF THE LAW WAS >> ANOTHER COMMENT I WANT YOU TO RESPOND TO WHICH CONGRESS MAN THE ISSUE SIGHTED BY ARIZONA AND NOT BENCH.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID THE OPPOSITE BENCH DID NOT DECIDE.

>> NO THE CONGRESS MAN WAS NOT CORRECT IN HIS POST HE DID YESTERDAY THIS .

S NOT LEGISLATING FROM THE BENCH.

AND THIS WAS JUDGES DOING WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

IT IS INCORRECT TO SAY THIS THE 4 JUSTICES MAKING POLICY THEY SAID, READ THE OPINION IS WHEN I SAY.

THEY SAID THAT THE POLICY WAS TO THE LAWMAKERS TO THE LEGISLATIVE AND EXECUTE ITCH BRANCH THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A DECISION THAT RELYOS SEPARATIONS OF POWERHOUSE.

JUDICIARY BRANCH WORKS COMPARING TO THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCHES >> AND A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS.

IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE THE REACTION REPRESENTATIVE CONGRESS MAN QUOTE, DISASTER FER WOMEN AND PROVIDERS AND CUSTOMER LAKE I KNOW THAT IS MODERATED THE DEBATE SHE WAS MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE LAW.

NOW SAYS I OPPOSE THE RULEINGLY.

ALL OF THE FOLKS, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY WERE OR NOW.

DO THEY HAVE A POINT THAT THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR ARIZONA?

>> WELL, WHAT IS A DISASTER IS THAT WE HAVE UNBORN CHILDREN IN WILL THE WOMB, LIVES BEING TAKEN.

WOMEN SUFFERING FROM HAVING ABORTIONS.

OUR VIEW IS UNBETTER THAN CHILDREN DESERVE LIFE AND MOTHERS DESERVE TO BE FREE OF PAIN OF THE ABORTION.

IN OUR VIEW THIS IS ABOUT SAVING LIVES THE LIVE OF MOTHER AND CHILD >> GOVERNOR AND ATTORNEY GENERAL, BOTH ARE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE AT THIS TIME GOVERNOR TOOK THEIR POWERS AWAY.

GAVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

ATTORNEY GENERAL SAYS SHE WILL NOT DO IT ORB POSE THE RULING YOUR THOUGHTS?

ARE YOU READY AND WILLING TO GO TO COURT TO FORCE HER TO ENFORCE?

JOT GOVERNOR AND ATTORNEY GENERAL DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THAT POWER AWAY.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS THE ELECTED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF THE STATE.

SAME WITH THE ATTORNEYS.

THEY HAVE A DUTY.

A RULE, A DERELICTION OF DUTY FOR THEM TO SAY THEY WILL NOT ENFORCE THE LAW.

THEY WILL NOT PROSECUTE SOMEONE VIOLATED THE LAW WITHOUT KNOWING THE FACTS OF THE CASE.

THIS GUESS OUTSIDE THE BOUNCED OF WHAT THE AUTHORITY.

SO SHOULD THERE BE A CASE THAT IS BROUGHT FORWARD, SHOULD THE LAW GO IN AFFECT?

IT COULD TAKE MONTH FIST NOT MORE THAN A YEAR TO HAVE THIS GO IN AFFECT.

I THINK THAT WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF LITIGATION AND A LOT AHEAD THIS .

IS BEYOND THE AUTHORITY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE GOVERNOR TO DICTATE WE WILL NOT DEFEND OR ENFORCE THIS LAW >> TALK THE LEGISLATOR WHAT DO YOU KNOWLEDGE THEY SHOULD DO?

THE LEGISLATOR NEEDS TO LEAVE IT ALONE.

THEY NEED TO REMEMBER IT IT IS A PROLIFE LEGISLATOR.

OUR LAW FAVORS UNBORN CHILDREN THE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES OF THE LAW SAME AS UPON BORN INDIVIDUALS.

I THINK THEY NEED TO LEAVE IT ALONE.

ALSO THE LEGISLATOR NEEDS TO REMEMBER WLA CIVIL DISCOURSE IS.

WHAT HAPPENED ON THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE WAS UNCALLED FOR, UNCONSCIOUSABLE TO HAVE ONE SIDE YELLING AND SAY IT IS ONE REPUBLICAN MEMBER AND A DEMOCRAT TO HAVE THE DEMOCRATS YELLING ON THE FLOOR YELLING LOUDLY, IT IS JUST UNFORTUNATE.

WE ALL NEED TO MODEL CIVIL DISCOURSE >> THAT SAID, THE CONCERN AND I KNOW THE ONE REPUBLICAN MEMBER HERE AND THE PEOPLE THAT I QUOTED HERE, ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE UPCOMING ELECTION AND THEY ARE CONCERNED THIS WILL ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE OF THE AID OPPONENTS AND THAT BALLOT PROPOSAL OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE 24 WEEKS.

>> NO IN THE 24.

>> HOW LONG?

THE SO CALLED ARIZONA ABORTION ACCESS AMENDMENT ALLOW ABORTIONS ANY TIME AFTER VIABILITY.

VIABILITY BEING THE TIME A BABY CAN SURVIVE OUTSIDE THE WOMB FOR THE MOTHER'S MENTAL HEALTH.

LATE TERM ABORTIONS WILL BE LEGALIZED.

THIS PROPOSAL ON THE BALLOT WOULD OVER TURN THE UPON SAFE GUARDS FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE LAWS.

THIS IS IN THE WHAT ARIZONA VOTERS ARE >> THAT BEING SAID, ARE YOU CONCERNED WHAT THE SUPREME COURT DID WILL ADD FUEL TO THAT INITIATIVE?

>> I BELIEVE ARIZONA VOTERS IN THAT INITIATIVE SEE HOW FAR REACHING UNRESTRICTED ABORTION.

THAT ARIZONA VOTERS WILL GIVE A, NO >> LAST QUESTION .

YOU HAVE BEEN A FORCE REGARDING ABORTION ISSUES FOR A LONG TIME.

JUDGING FROM -- TAKING WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY IN CONSIDERATION, DO YOU FEEL VINDICATED?

>> I HAVE LONG ARGUED THE LAW WOULD BE VALID ROE V WADE WAS OVER TURNED.

I BELIEVE I HAD THE RIGHT LEGAL ANSWER THAT WAS THE RIGHT LEGAL A.

MORE THAN ANYTHING, I SEE PROTECTING DEFENDING LIVES OF UNBORN CHILDREN SPECIAL MOTHERS WE LOVE BOTH AND THAT'S WHO WE ADVOCATE FOR >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

WOURT POLICY MORRISON INSTITUTE RELEASED A REPORT THAT ROCK FOR CONNECTIONS WITH HOUSING AFFORD AT AND GROUNDWATER REGULATION IN PHOENIX.

FOLLOWS A MORATORIUM ON PERMITS RELYING ON LOCAL GROUNDWATER IN FEIGNIS.

FOR MORE ON THE REPORT CATHERINE, DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH AT THE KYLE CENTER.

GOOD TO SEE YOU THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> NICE TO BE HERE >> HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND GROUNDWATER REGULATION, A VIN DIAGRAM?

>> RIGHT.

WELL, YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN EXPRESSED BY DEVELOPERS SUBDIVIGSZ SINCE THE D. WATER RESOURCE CAME OUT WITH THE NEW MODEL ABOUT A YEAR AGO THAT BASICALLY -- FORECLOSES ON THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE SUBDIVISION DEVELOPERS TO CONTINUE DEVELOPING ON THE FRINGES OF THEVILLEY OF THE SUN BASED ON GROUND WATER.

>> AND SO THEY RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THAT MIGHT HAVE AN IMPACT FOR AFFORDABILITY OF HOME IN GENERAL >> WHAT DOES YOUR STUDY FIND?

>> THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

SO THE GOAL OF DEVELOPMENT HERE IS NOT NECESSARILY LEAST COST DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SAKE OF AFFORD AT.

IF IT WERE, WE WOULD NOT HAVE RESTRICTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE IMPOSED COSTS FOR STREET IMPROVEMENT SAYS OR TRAFFIC SIGNALS OR BUS STOPS OR STORM WATER DRAINAGE OR OPEN SPACHLS ALL OF THESE RESTRICTIONS IMPOSE COSTS ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUBDIVIGSZ.

OUR GOAL IS ABOUT BALANCING AFFORD AT, THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT, ALONG SIDE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT PUBLIC POLICY GOALS LIKE TRANSPORTATION.

LIKE AIR KWAUCHLT NOISE ABATEMENT >> AND YOU TALK ABOUT CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES BASICALLY DOING WHAT THEY CAN TO MITIGATE THE COSTS WITHOUT ENDANGERING THE ACTIVE MANAGEMENT AREA?

>> RIGHT.

YEA.

REALLY, THE MOST RESTRICTIVE ZONING LAWS IMPOSE A LOT OF COSTS ON DEVELOPMENT.

SO IF CITIES COULD LOOK AT ZONING RULES THAT ARE LESS BURDEN SOME THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD EEGZ AFFORDABILITY OCCURRENCE.

IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SACRIFICE THE HEALTH OF AQUIFERS IN ORDER TO ENSURE AFFORDABILITY.

THERE ARE TOOLS IN THE TOOL BOX.

AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THE USE OF ALL OF THEM >> IS -- IN THE REPORT, IS THERE A WAY TO LOOK AT INCENTIVIZE LOWER COST HOUSING?

>> I KNOW IT IS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, IS THAT A WAY TO TARGET THAT AND PINPOINT THIS?

>> SURE, ABSOLUTELY YOU COULD.

ZONING LAWS HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH NA.

IF THE STATE WANTED TO, IT COULD SUBSIDIZE DEVELOPMENT.

HOUSING.

PARTICULARLY AFFORDABLE.

IN AREAS WHERE THERE IS LESS CONCERN ABOUT THE DRAINING OF AQUIFERS AS AN EXAMPLE Y.

HAD AREAS ARE IN PHOENIX ARE THEIR AQUIFERS WE ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT?

>> WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT ALL OF THEM WE ALWAYS ARE.

THE MORATORIUM ON DIVISION ON GROUNDWATER APPLY IN SPECIFIC AREAS IN THE MAJOR CITIES ADMIT VALLEY OF THE SUN PHOENIX.

MESS A SCOTTSDALE.

GOOD YEAR ALL OF THOSE CITIES THIS REALLY DOES NOT APPLY.

THOSE CITIES HAVE DEVELOPED DIVERSE AND RESILIENT WATER PORTFOLIOS SO GROWTH CAN CONTINUE WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING THE LOCAL AQUIFERS.

>> DEVELOPING THOSE PORTFOLIOS, SAY YOU WANT TO BUILD IN THE FAR SOUTHWEST SIDE.

ANYWHERE ANYWHERE IT IT IS NOT AS DEVELOPED AS IN TEMPA AND GLEN DID THE DALE SHOULD THAT THE BE A CONCENTRATION OPPOSED TO MAY BE EASINGUM -- I'M TRYING TO FIND THAT -- EVERYONE IS TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE >> EVERYONE IS.

AND IT IS DIFFICULT.

FOR CONTEXT, GROWTH CAN CONTINUE A PACE WITHIN THE CITY THE MAJOR CITIES IN THE VALLEY OF THE SUN.

AND IT IS IRRELEVANT IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT WE DO NEED TO BALANCE THE HEALTH OF OUR AQUIFERS AGAINST OTHER PUBLIC POLICY GOALS.

AFFORD AROUND IS A CONCERN.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER TOOLS WE CAN USE.

TO ACHIEVE THOSE.

>> FOR THOSE WATCHING SAYING I DON'T CARE.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE ENCROACHMENT ON THE DESERT.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE AREAS DEVELOP THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE WATER IS NOT THERE.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THIS?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT IS UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL CITY COUNCIL TO DECIDE THE DEVELOPMENTS THEY FEEL BEST FIT THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT GROWTH CAN CONTINUE.

AND EVEN ON THE FRIFRNS OF THE VALLEY OF THE SUN, THAT GROWTH CAN CONTINUE.

IT CAN'T CONTINUE ON GROUND WATER.

>> YES.

>> YOU KNOW WE WILL NEED TO BRING IN ALTERNATIVE WATER SUPPLIES TO THOSE AREAS SO WE ARE NOT DELEASTING THE AQUIFER.

WHY COMPARE REGULATIONS AND HOUSING COST FACTORS WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE?

LOOK AT ZONING.

YOU KNOW ZONING IMPOSES A LOT OF COSTOS DEVELOPMENT.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, PARKING REQUIREMENTS.

SETBACKS.

LOT SIZES.

THE NEXT OF DEVELOPMENT WE OFTEN DISALLOW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN SINGLE FAMILY AREAS.

I THINK THERE IS A LOT WE CAN ACHIEVE IN AFFORD ACT BY FOCUSING THERE.

WHILE PROTECTING GROUND WATER.

IS THAT WHAT YOU OVER ALL TAKE FROM THE STUDY?

IS THAT THE BOTTOM LINE?

>> YEA.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND ALSO IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MINDSEEN IN THE FRIFRNS OF THE VALLEY OF THE SUN WHERE YOU KNOW DEVELOPMENT IS MORE DEPARTMENT ON GROUNDWATER WELL IS 80,000 PLOTS THAT CAN MOVE FORWARD.

THERE IS SANTA FES FOR DEVELOPMENT TO ADDRESS AFFORDAMENT OCCURRENCE >> AND QUICKLY.

PEOPLE ARE TAKEING SERIOUSLY?

>> THEY ARE.

HOUSING AS BECOME MORE EXPENSIVE TEMPERATURE IS PART OF PHOENIX GROW NOTHING ITS OWN.

AND YOU SEE THIS IN MAJOR CITIES.

WE WANT TO NIP THIS AND DO WHEN WE CAN TO APEEZ IT BUT NEED TO THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT TRADE OFFS.

>> VERY GOOD.

KYLE CENTER FOR WATER POLICY.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU >> NOISE TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU.

>> 10 YEARS AN INVESTIGATION FOUND THE PHOENIX VA HOSPITAL HEIGHTEDING VETERAN APPOINTMENT WAIT TIMES KEEPING SECRET LIST OF THOSE SEEK MEDICAL CHAIRMAN 40 DIED THE SCANDAL THROUGH THE EFFORTEDS OF V. A. WHISTLE BLOW AND THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC.

WE SPOKE WITH ONE, PAULA EXECUTE ITCH DIRECTOR OF HONORING AMERICAN'S VET SXRNS TIM WITH CONCERNED VET RESIDENCE OF AMERICA.

>> PAULA AND TIM GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US PAUL I WILL START WITH YOU.

10 YEARS SINCE THIS STORY BROKE?

>> YEA.

HARD TO BELIEVE.

BUT NECESSARY.

YOU KNOW.

>> TELL US WHAT HAPPENED.

>> SO, WE A COUPLE OF US WHISTLE BLOWERS FINDING OUT MANAGEMENT HAD A SECRET WAITING LIST INSTEAD OF ENTERING THE INFORMATION IN THE COMPUTER SO PATIENTS COULD GET APPOINTMENTS THEY WOULD TELL THE STAFF TO HIT PRINT INSTEAD.

AND IT WOULD VAPORIZE THE ONLY THING THAT EXIST SAID WAS THAT PIECE OF PAPER THAT PAPER ON THAT LIST GREW FROM THIS TED I WATCHED THIS TO THIS TO THIS.

AND IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THOSE WORKING THE PAPER LIST TO GET THE PEOPLE IN ON TIME.

SOME WERE NEEDING OUR VETERANS WAITING 6 AND 9 MONTES AND A YEAR TO GET HEALTH CARE.

>> WHY, WHY HIDE APPOINTMENT TIME SNS WHY KEEP A SECRET LIST WHY?

AT THE TIME THERE WAS A MONT RATO ENSURE THEY GOT PERFORMANCE BONUSES FOR SHORTER TIMES IN APPOINTMENTS.

SO, THE ACCESS TO CARE FOR PRIMARY CARE WAS 14 DAYS.

THE ACCESS TO CARE FOR SPECIAL CARE AND MENTAL HEALTH CARE 30 DAYS.

THOSE WERE THE GOALS, IF THEY COULD SHOW THEY MET 30 AND 14 DAYS THEY WOULD GET 10,000.

15, 20 THOUSAND BONUS YOU WOULD POP TO DO THAT A HEALTHY PERSON AND VALUABLELY ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COME TO SERVING OUR VETERANS.

THAT IS WHAT BOTHERED ME.

THE LACK OF ETHICS CAN AND VALUES HOW CAN YOU LOYAL TO PEOPLE AND SAY WE ARE DOING THIS AND REALITY YOU ARE NOT?

THEY DIDN'T LIKE ME THEY BANISHED MOW TO THE BASEMENT.

LIBRARY TOOK ME OUT OF MY PUBLIC AFFAIRS ROLE AND MADE LIFE MISABLE FOR ME.

WANTED TO TAKE AWAY THE VETERAN DAY'S PARADE.

JOWL THERE ARE.

>> THE PHOENIX VA WAS GROUND ZERO.

>> WE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST HAPPEN NOTHING FEIGNIS IT WAS HAPPENING 111 V. A.

HOSPITALS OUT OF THE 156 ACROSS THE COUNTRY >> TIM, WE HEARD THIS STORY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AND BRINGING BACK MEMORIES WHAT HAPPENED.

IS THAT IN THE PAST?

HAVE THINGS CHANGED OR IMPROVED >> SINCE 2014 THERE HAS BEEN LEGISLATION I THINK THE V. A.

MISSION ACT PASS IN THE 2018.

CORRESPOND VETERAN FOR AMERICA GOT WHAT THROUGH CONGRESS THAT OPENED COMMUNITY CARE FOR VETERAN.

SINCE THEN, THERE ARE ISSUE THIS IS EXIST.

TODAY VETERANERS TOLD TO WAIT 3 MINUTES TO GET AN APPOINTMENT.

FORGET ABOUT SPECIAL CHAIR.

LEADERSHIP ISSUES AND ACCOUNTS ACT ISSUES THEY WERE CONCERNS IN THE SCANDAL HAVE THOSE IMPROVED?

>> DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TALK TO.

SOME HAD BETTER EXPERIENCES AND SOME HAVE NOT THE ISSUES ARE THERE AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO CONSISTENCY >> DID I READ OVER 4 HUH HUMAN COLORECTAL SCREENINGS UNUSED OR EXPIRED?

EXPIRED.

THEY DID NOT PAY FOR POSTAGE.

>> IT WAS A POSTAGE ISSUE.

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT.

>> THE V. A.

DID IN THE PAY THE POSTAGE ON THAT ONE REALM AND ALL OF THOSE JUST GOT LEFT SITTING THERE.

THE V. A.

HAS ISSUES.

THE GOOD THING IS VA HAS WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR VETERANS.

THE 30 YEARS I WORK THERED WE FOUND THE NUMBER ONE REASON PEOPLE CAME BECAUSE THEY WANTED SERVE OUR VETERANS.

THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE THERE.

IT IS THE POLICIES THE BUREAUCRACY THAT GETS IN THE WAY.

>> STILL.

>> STILL.

>> AND WHAM TIM SAID THE MISSION THAT WAS DESIGNED A BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN LAW DESIGNED TO FIX NOT REALLY THE WAIT TIME ISSUES BUT MANY THINGS THROUGH MEDICAL RECORDS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH.

THE EDUCATION.

THAT THE TEACHING COMPONENTS WE NEEDED.

THE HOSPITAL IT IS MISSION ACT DESIGNED TO LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE HOSPITALS.

DO WE NEED TO CLOSE FROM AND BUILD BETTER ONCE ELSEWHERE?

HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS WORK FOR PEOPLE AND V. A.

HAS TAKEN AND IGNORRING PROP TO THE MISSION ACT THEY TOOK DOWN THE WEBSITE I WAS PART OF THE TEAM THAT HAD TO GET IN THAT.

VETERANS COULD SAY, CAN I GET MY CARE HERE AND URGENT CARE HERE OR THIS OR THAT.

>> WHAT NEEDS TO BE BEEN TO IMPROVEMENTS AND THINGS ARE NOT AS BAD BUT DOES NOT STOUND IS SMOOTH WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

>> MOST IMPORTANT THING NOW IS FOR ANYBODY WANTS TO TAKE A STEP FURTHER ENCOURAGE A MEMBER TO VOTE FOR THE VETERAN HEALTH CARE FREEDOM ACT THAT WILL COD FIGHT MISSION ACT STANDARDS SO THE V. A.

NOW HAS TO MAKE COMMUNITY CARE AVAILABLE FOR VETERANS AND TELL THEM ABOUT THAT.

I THINK OPENING UP COMMUNITY CARE OPTIONS WILL FIX OR LEAVE IT A LOT OF THE ISSUES ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIMITATION OF THE PACT ACT.

>> IS THERE PUSH BACK?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> YEA.

>> BIG TIME >> YEA.

>> THE I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS.

THERE IS A HIGH LEVEL V. A.

EMPLOYEE ON FILM SAYING NOT TO HIT THE EASY BUTTON WITH COMMUNITY CARE TO GO THROUGH EVERY V. A.

OPTION INCLUDING OUT OF STATE.

INSTEAD OF JUST THEIR LOCAL DOCTOR.

>> PAULA, WRAP IT UP.

>> THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT, TED, A LET OF VETERANS WE SERVE AT THE HOSPITALS ARE INDEGENT THEY DON'T HAVE INSURANCE THEY CAN'T AFFORD T. V. A.

IS THEIR ONLY OPTION THAT IS A REASON GET COMMUNITY CARE THEORY THEM IS IMPORTANT >> PAULA AND TIM, GREAT WORK BOTH OF YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE SUCCESS YOU HAD.

AND CONTINUED SUCCESS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US >> THANK YOU.

>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOUCHL I'M TED SIMONS THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING Support for Arizona.