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Advocates Push Back on Trump's Order Scaling Back Transgender Protections
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President Donald Trump's executive order is likely to be challenged in court.
A new federal government definition of the sexes could have a major impact on transgender people.
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Advocates Push Back on Trump's Order Scaling Back Transgender Protections
Clip: 1/29/2025 | 9m 19sVideo has Closed Captions
A new federal government definition of the sexes could have a major impact on transgender people.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> President Donald Trump's flurry of executive orders includes rolling back protections for transgender people.
Advocates are pushing back saying there could be a domino effect of widespread consequences.
Here with more, our Shannon Parker, CEO of Brave Space Alliance, Alicia Zammit Takis research, assistant professor at the Institute for and Gender Minority Health and well-being at Northwestern University.
And on Zoom, Precious Brady Davis, a commissioner for the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Chicago.
Ladies, thanks to all of you for joining us.
Shannon Parker.
Want to start with you.
Please.
Brave space alliance Blackledge Translate LGBTQ nonprofit.
How do you think this order will impact a federal funding that supports organizations like yours?
>> What a great question.
So again, thank you for having me today.
a devastating effect.
So many of organization with the organization similar to pray.
Space Alliance that provide affirming care life, saving care.
2, ginger expensive populations are heavily reliant on government grants, namely federal funding.
So when we have executive orders such as these, they strike at the heart, they cut off the life's blood of organizations that do this life saving work every day.
And I really want to be clear that this affects more than just LGBTQ are trained serving organizations.
effects organizations that serve marginalized populations across gamut.
So, yes, it has a detriments on the organization's precious Brady Davis.
Take us back.
If you would, a little bit to the history of policing of non gender, conforming people or gender nonconforming people.
>> When we look at the birth of our movement at stole received 2 brave brown and black trans woman.
We see Marsha P Johnson.
We see so Rivera who pushed back against the police up folks who wear gender variance for years.
The LGBTQ community in particular, the trans community have organized in the spear of authenticity.
This is not the first time that we have been policed.
We saw our our lives police during the Reagan administration when the Reagan administration did not stand up for for HIV to not fight for a cure we don't ask, don't tell.
during the Clinton administration and then on to the President Bush.
So I think that we lit it during these times before.
And I think that we as trans people, I think that we are result of resilient people.
>> That the trans community fairly small are making up only one percent of our entire population.
Commissioner, why do you think?
>> This administration sees sees this community is a threat.
>> I think that we as trans people that we make up one percent of the population, as you say, approximately 3 million Americans.
Does that mean that our lives don't matter?
Approximately 3 million people live in the state of Iowa and I find it as a distraction.
I think it's really a distraction about the one percent who this president is catering to.
We saw at the president's inauguration, the tech oligarchs, the folks who are going to benefit from the tax cuts of this administration and its an attack.
It's a distraction and we're going to be fighting back to that.
Now.
>> We've used attack.
Is Trump's definition of gender in this order is the biological were assigned at birth.
What do you think is wrong with that definition?
>> Yeah, I mean, not only is that accurate as to the understanding of ourselves as transgender people, but it's also scientifically inaccurate executive order Icu's that and now as someone with the promise on the material of them now at conception.
But we all have the chromosomal material up miles and females conception.
So by this definition, essentially, we're all males and females.
But I think the point really isn't to have sounds definition of gender within this order.
It has to lay the basis for these attacks.
as the commissioner said to provide and a mount, an immense amount of destruction and division among people that said, what impact could it have a legal documentation for trans people on your federal your passport, for example.
>> Yeah.
It ultimately prohibit transgender people from having access passports and other legal documentation that represents they're accurate.
Gender markers and names already transferred or people have had their passport applications either tonight or even how it at this time without even being sense.
Trump's executive order, this also make it more difficult for and already a precarious situation with documents.
Trance people often carry a driver's license with one gender a birth certificate with another and so forth because it's so difficult for us to get accurate documents.
This will only exacerbate that problem.
It also make it more difficult for us to actually know what's happening to trans people.
So one trans people are killed.
It's really hard for us to know how often that happens because there's a lack of data.
And now Deparments identified by by the authorities at the time.
Exactly.
Shannon, you work to the Cook County Department of Corrections, specifically populations in protective custody.
What's at stake for trans women who trans people?
>> Who are incarcerated so much is stake.
>> having worked in the Cook, a Department of Corrections as the first openly transgender woman.
I helped to shape a new form many policies that are still in place today.
2 create protections for such a vulnerable population.
This flies in the face of a federal mandate called Priya the Prison Rape Elimination And that.
Actually he's under Gary.
It's to protect the population that's now being attacked.
So what we see what we're going to see if we're not seeing it already is the movement of protected individuals who are right now detained are incarcerated facilities are in alignment with their internal reality being cents to mail.
Presidents jails where they could be.
In multiple ways if not killed.
>> Gray Davis will was impact any Illinois laws.
Any Illinois state laws that protect trans rights.
>> I'm so glad that we lived in that we live in the land of Lincoln LGBTQ rights reign, supreme here in Illinois, LGBTQ education is taught in schools.
My husband and I we we took this state to ensure that folks can be identified properly on birth certificates at the gender that they identify as we were the first couple in the state to do that.
I'm proud that we have a progressive legislature and we have a progressive governor.
I was the first black trans woman appointed to public office Cook County Herstory appointed by our governor.
And our governor has said that he's going to fight back and that you have to come through him to get to the people of Illinois.
And so my heart breaks.
But the people across the country who do live in a blue state, my heart breaks for the trans youth who won't receive gender affirming care.
And it's important that Illinois will become a beacon of reproductive justice and care during this time.
>> Yeah, of course, he mentioned the trans youth in their care because we know that Trump has signed another executive order banning teens and adolescents from accessing that health care.
Shannon, back to you or black trans women at higher risk of being targeted when their rights are threatened.
But that's absolutely.
>> You know, black trans women lived at multiple intersections race identity, some being more visible than others.
And what we see is carte blanche in bold Mont of individuals who when highest office of the land actually use.
A pass for individuals to thread.
And that means here down to humanity of another individual.
goes without saying that there is an emergency 4 trains, women.
>> before we run it, speaking of emergency, we've got about 30 seconds leave.
You have let you have the last word.
What is your advice to trans people and families right now?
Yeah, I think transgender people need to fight back.
We need to be organized and in the streets with sand with immigrant rights that we've been able to make it so difficult for them to be able to deport anyone because of organizing and spreading the word finding people willing to do the same with transgender people.
That's what we have to
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