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Advocates React to Judge's Ruling on Undocumented Spouses
Clip: 8/29/2024 | 10m 35sVideo has Closed Captions
A Texas judge blocked one of President Joe Biden's immigration policies.
A Texas judge blocked one of President Joe Biden's immigration policies. The program allows undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens to apply for a green card and eventually citizenship without leaving the country.
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Advocates React to Judge's Ruling on Undocumented Spouses
Clip: 8/29/2024 | 10m 35sVideo has Closed Captions
A Texas judge blocked one of President Joe Biden's immigration policies. The program allows undocumented spouses of U.S. citizens to apply for a green card and eventually citizenship without leaving the country.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipINDIVIDUALS ARE NOW IN LIMBO AFTER A TEXAS JUDGE BLOCKS ONE OF PRESIDENT BIDEN'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES.
THE PROGRAM ALLOWS UNDOCUMENTED SPOUSES OF U.S. CITIZENS TO APPLY FOR A GREEN CARD AND EVENTUALLY CITIZENSHIP WITHOUT LEAVING THE COUNTRY KNOWN AS PEARL IN PLACE.
THE WHITE HOUSE ESTIMATE ABOUT 500,000 PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM.
HERE WITH MORE ON THE LOCAL IMPACT, OUR FOLLOW THAT RULE.
IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY, LEGAL AID VOLUNTEER SAM SANCHEZ, MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN BUSINESS IMMIGRATION COALITION AND CEO OF 3RD KOHL'S, HOSPITALITY IN VIA ZOOM, ALDERMAN RAYMOND LOPEZ OF THE 15 WARD.
WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF OPPONENTS TO PRESIDENT BIDEN'S PROGRAM, BUT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO JOIN.
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING FALLOUT.
I WANT TO START WITH YOU WHEN THIS BLOCK WITH THE BLOCK IN THIS PROGRAM.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR FAMILIES NOW?
SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, JOHN.
ON THE PROGRAM.
THIS IS A HUGE SETBACK FOR A LOT OF FAMILIES.
FAMILIES DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO FIRST OF ABLE ABLE TO AFFORD GOING BACK OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
SO I WANT TO I WANT TO KIND OF GO BACKWARD AND SAY THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT FAMILIES THAT ARE UNDOCUMENTED.
AND MARY, TO SPOUSES OF U.S. CITIZENS DON'T ALREADY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO.
THIS.
ALLOWS FOR PAROLE, WHICH IS A LAWFUL ADMISSION WHICH WOULD MAKE THAT PROCESS A LOT FASTER, WHICH ALLOWS FAMILIES NOT TO HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY TO BE ABLE TO DO THEM GREEN CARD HOLDERS AND IT ALLOWS FOR FAMILY MEMBERS.
ALSO NOW TO HAVE TO HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF HAVING TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO DO THAT AND ALSO TAKE THE RISK OF LEAVING BECAUSE SOME DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK IN.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS AND THE PROGRAM WAS ESTIMATED TO HELP THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS.
THOUSANDS OF JUST MENTION, CAN THEY STILL APPLY?
SO LIKE I SAID, THIS PROGRAM IS NOT A PROGRAM THAT IS IN THE SENSE THAT SPOUSES OF UNDOCUMENTED FOLKS THAT ARE U.S. CITIZENS CAN APPLY FOR STATUS.
THIS IS A PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY FOR ENTERED UNLAWFULLY.
THOSE ENTER UNLAWFULLY BASICALLY HAVE A BARRIER TO BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A GREEN CARD.
AND AS IT STANDS THAT BARRIER INCLUDES HAVING LEAVE THE COUNTRY AND COME BACK IN TO BE ABLE TO BECOME GREEN CARD HOLDERS.
AND THIS PROGRAM BASICALLY WAVES THAT ENTRY, THE UNLAWFUL ENTRY.
AND SO THAT MAKES FAMILY'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO STAY HERE.
JUST A LOT MORE FEASIBLE FOR A MYRIAD OF REASONS AND WHAT CONSIDERS IT A LOT ON LAWFUL ENTRY BECAUSE WE KNOW MANY STORIES TOO.
PEOPLE WHO CROSS THE BORDER.
YES, SO LEGALLY, WHEN YOU ENTER IF YOU ENTER AND YOU ARE ADMITTED AND INSPECTED BY IMMIGRATION, THEN THAT'S A LAWFUL ADMISSION.
THAT'S JUST HOW IMMIGRATION THE FINES THAT.
AND SAM, I WANT TO GO TO YOU AS A MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN BUSINESS FOR IMMIGRATION.
COALITION HOUSES BLOCK IMPACTING BUSINESS OWNERS IN ENTREPRENEURS BEEN WORKING HERE FOR YEARS.
QUESTION THINK THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN AN DURING THE PANDEMIC HOW PEOPLE THAT ARE WITH THE LAWFUL DOCUMENTATION TOOK A THOSE YEARS OFF.
CLICK ON THE DEPLOYMENT OF UP TO $1000 A WEEK.
THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ABLE TO KEEP HER BUSINESS OPEN WHERE PEOPLE WERE UNDOCUMENTED MEAN, THERE WASN'T A LOT BACK TO WORK LOOKING BEEN SENT TO HIM BURNING OUT.
WE NEED THEM.
NEED THE WORKFORCE.
AND AND WE OWE IT TO THEM WITHIN ABOUT TOLD MILLION PRE-PANDEMIC OR ANOTHER 8 TO 10 MILLION, CAYMAN ISLANDS OTHER.
THERE ARE MANY TO AMERICAN CITIZENS, FATHERS OR MOTHERS OF CHILDREN, AMERICA WHO ARE VOTING AGE WOULD HAVE A JOB TO JUST SAY THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION.
PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO COLLEGE ON A COACH.
AND SO HAVE THE MASTER.
OKAY, HAVE TO WORK.
AND CHILD TO DON'T QUALIFY FOR WHAT THEY WENT TO SCHOOL FOR, WHICH IS A SHAME BECAUSE ARE TALENTED.
ENGINEERS ARE COLONY.
THEY HAVE SUCH A GREAT TALK, THE SKILLS THAT THEY CAN SHOW WHAT A COUNTRY YOU HEAR MANY OF THESE STORIES EVERY EVERY DAY THIS MORNING.
THEY KNOW THOSE TRYING PLAY SOME OF THAT.
THE PRESIDENT STILL THERE COULD TAKE TIME.
THINK THE FOR TOOK TO THE PUSH OF A JUDGE IN TEXAS TO DO THIS.
MEAN, TOW AND JUST BECAUSE AMERICAN PEOPLE, MAYBE 2 AMERICAN CITIZENS, OF COURSE, ALDERMAN LOPEZ GOING TO YOU, YOUR WARD HAS A LARGE POPULATION OF LATINOS.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY CITIZENSHIP MEANS FOR THESE FAMILIES?
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT JOINT A DAY THE LAST TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD EATING LEGISLATION REFORM TO GIVE UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS A PATHWAY FORWARD IS WHEN THE BEARS ACTUALLY WON THE SUPER BOWL.
SO IT HAS BEEN DECADES SINCE WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN A SERIOUS ATTEMPT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS.
AND IN MANY CASES, WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL TO SAM'S POINT WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST 2 GENERATIONS.
NOW WAITING A PATH FOR HAVING FAMILIES PUTTING DOWN ROOTS.
HAVING THEIR ENTREPRENEUR SPIRIT DAMPER BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PARENT TO LEGALLY DO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING AROUND THEM.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS 14 DAY STAY ON.
THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER HAS BEEN ISSUED WHILE OTHER EXECUTIVE ORDERS DEALING WITH THE LIMITING OF ASYLUM SEEKERS HAS ALLOWED TO MEANT MAINTAIN.
WE HAVE 2 DIFFERENT POLICIES TO DIFFERENT VIEWS WHEN IT COMES TO ASYLUM SEEKERS, END UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COUNTRY.
AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS BEEN DOCUMENTED SITUATION FIRST BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY MANY OF THE MEXICAN UNDOCUMENTED WHOM I REPRESENT HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR DECADES FOR A CHANCE TO LEGALIZE THEIR STATUS COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS.
AND BOTH PARTIES HAVE FAILED THEM ON FRONT.
AND EARLIER WE SPOKE WITH HIS OWNER OF THE AS HER HUSBAND IS A U.S. CITIZEN AND SHE WAS PLANNING ON APPLYING FOR PAROLE IN PLACE.
BUT SHE SAYS A TEMPORARY HOLD HAS LEFT HER AND OTHER MEMBERS OF HER COMMUNITY DISCOURAGE.
LET'S TAKE A LISTEN.
BUT IT IS FRUSTRATING THAT FAMILY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE LIKE IT?
THIS DATABASE THAT THEIR FOREVER LIKE DHAKA OR FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK WHAT ABOUT FAMILIES THAT ARE STOPPING ME SAY, LIKE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING BACK TO THEM LIKE, WHY ARE THEY THIS TO US?
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATION.
FOLLOW.
WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO WHAT YOU JUST HEARD?
A I MEAN, AS A FIRST GENERATION IMMIGRANT MYSELF, I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO IN SHOES.
I WAS UNDOCUMENTED UNTIL I WAS 15.
AND SO I GET THAT MY FAMILY MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS EYE.
I'M THANKFUL THAT I'M AN IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY AND I'M ABLE TO DO THIS, BUT IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR MY CLIENTS.
IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE HOPES AND DREAMS AND WITH A LOT TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR ECONOMY.
AND YOU DO A LOT OF WORK WITH HELPING PEOPLE AS WELL.
WHAT HAS THAT?
NO FEEDBACK BEEN LIKE WHEN THE NEWS HAPPENED THAT THIS PROGRAM WAS PAUSED.
JUST SHEER DISAPPOINTMENT.
I TRYING KEEP MY CLIENTS HOPEFUL THAT THIS IS JUST A 14 DAY.
STAY NICE TO BE HEARD ON THE MERITS.
BUT WE HAVE TO AND SEE WHAT THE COURTS DECIDE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT ABOUT YOU WILL READ YOUR THOUGHTS OF SHE SAID?
WOULD YOU AND THE THINGS THAT I MEAN, I GOT MARRIED IN MEXICO, WHICH PEOPLE WHO LOVE IT CLOSE TO THE BORDER CLOSE TO THE BORDER.
SO PEOPLE IN TEXAS TRIBUNE FESTIVAL EVERY WEEK AND EVERY OTHER WEEKEND AND THE VISIT RELATIVES OF FAMILY THAT YOU MEET SOMEONE, THE U.S. FROM THE RESCUE LIKE PUTIN.
HOW IS THE AMERICAN CITIZENS CANNOT HAVE SOMEONE COME TO THIS COUNTRY STILL WITH THEM TO MAKE A LIFE TOGETHER?
I MEAN, WE MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER THAT ARE LAWYERS ENTREPRENEURS CREATE JOBS WERE 800 EMPLOYEES, PAY TAXES.
I MEAN, WE HAD NOTHING BUT PROUD OFFER TO THIS COUNTRY.
AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THAT THOSE 16 STATES OPPOSING THIS PROGRAM FAILED TO GRASP ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE PROGRAM?
WOULD THE QUESTION?
BECAUSE THE DURING THE PANDEMIC, WHEN THEY WERE DENIED FEND OF NICK SAID THEY WERE DENIED HELP AND THE COVID RELIEF.
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
READ THE FINE AND JUSTICE AND MAKE SURE THEY GOT THEIR MONEY.
SO IF YOU THOUGHT IT WAS RIGHT AND THEN THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S RIGHT.
AND ALDERMAN LOPEZ ATTORNEY GENERAL KEN PAXTON, WHO IS PART OF THE LAWSUIT PUTTING A HOLD ON THIS PROGRAM, POSTED A TWEET CELEBRATING THE TEMPORARY HOLD IN PART SAYING BIDEN'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL SCHEME WOULD HAVE FOR WARD AND OVER 1 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENSHIP AFTER BREAKING OUR COUNTRY'S LAWS.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS RESPONSE?
I THINK ATTORNEY GENERALS AND 80 TO BE PERFECTLY FRANK.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT BOTH PARTIES HAVE BENEFIT IN ALLOWED FOR A BROKEN IMMIGRATION SYSTEM TO EXIST DECADES SINCE RONALD REAGAN GAVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESET AND RESTRUCTURE THE LAW'S ACCORDINGLY.
IN 1987.
WE KNOW THAT BOTH PARTIES FOR THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE PERSPECTIVE, FROM THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE HAVE ALLOWED US TO PERSIST.
I DID TO BENEFIT THEIR CONSTITUENCIES.
ARE THEIR CORPORATE INTERESTS?
THIS IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUAL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS COUNTRY WANTS TO SEEK THE AMERICAN DREAM AND HAD NO FUNCTIONAL FRONT DOOR TO DO IT.
AND WE SEE EVEN NOW WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE APPLYING THEMSELVES FOR PROPPING OPEN THE BACK DOOR RATHER THAN FIX THE FRONT DOOR IF THEY TRULY WANTED TO FIX IMMIGRATION, THEY WOULD ALLOW FOR EASIER WAITS TO ENTER INTO THIS COUNTRY AND STAY HERE LEGALLY WHILE ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE MANY INDIVIDUALS WHOM THEY OPENLY WELCOME TO WORK AND THEIR FRIENDS, FACTORIES AND OTHER THINGS TO BE HERE UNDER THE RADAR.
IT'S NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES ARE AT STAKE AND HIS FAMILY'S ARUBA TO HEAR THAT WE NOW HAVE TO ACT LIKE STATESMEN AND ADDRESS THIS ISSUE ONCE AND FOR ALL.
AND NOW AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT.
WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE SECONDS.
BELLA, THE THE HOLD IS 14 DAYS THEY EXTEND THAT.
WHAT CAN HAPPEN MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY EXPAND.
THAT HOLDS.
IT'S UP TO THE JUDGE AT THIS POINT TO DECIDE.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING.
THE ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO HAVE A HEARING ON THAT ON THE MERITS OF IT, BUT THEY CAN DECIDE TO EXTEND IT AS LONG AS THEY AS THEY WANT.
THEY THEY GOVERNMENT.
THE JUDGE HAS GIVEN BOTH SIZE TOO, I SOME TIME IN SEPTEMBER TO RESPOND.
AND WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT.
I DO IT ONE.
AND ONE THING, THOUGH, THAT YOU CANNOT SAY THAT ONE EXECUTIVE ORDER IS LEGAL IN THE OTHER ONE ILLEGAL.
THEY
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