>> BONNIE: HELLO, I'M BONNIE ERBE.

WELCOME TO THE CONTRARY ANNUAL FILM FESTIVAL, ALL ABOUT WOMEN AND GIRLS.

THIS WEEK'S WINNING ENTRY WON THE US WOMEN'S ISSUES AWARD.

NO CHOICE IS ABOUT THE FACT THAT ONE IN FOUR WOMEN HAS ABORTION BUT NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT.

THE FILMMAKERS HOME THE STORIES YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR HELP BREAK THE SILENCE AND THE STIGMA AND GIVE A LOOK AT WHAT AMERICA WOULD BE LIKE WITHOUT ROE VS. WADE IF THERE WERE NO CHOICE.

>> WHEN I REALIZED I WAS PREGNANT I REALIZED I HAD TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WASN'T GOING TO LEAVE COLLEGE.

I WANTED TO BE A WRITER.

>> MARGE PIERCY: I'VE BEEN WRITING SINCE I WAS 15.

I'M 81 YEARS OLD.

I WAS BORN IN 1936.

I'VE PUBLISHED 17 NOVELS, 19 BOOKS OF POETRY, A MEMOIR, A PLAY, AND FOUR NONFICTION BOOKS.

AND A BOOK OF SHORT STORIES.

I GREW UP IN CENTER CITY DETROIT, IN A PREDOMINATELY, BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD AT A TIME WHEN ANTI-SEMITISM WAS RIFE IN DETROIT.

I WAS RAISED, BASICALLY, BY GHETTO JEWS.

MY MOTHER WAS A HOUSEKEEPER.

SHE'D GROWN UP IN POVERTY.

MY LIFE WAS NOTHING LIKE THE LIFE THAT I SAW ON TELEVISION AND I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THE DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN LIFE LIVED AND AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND I BEGAN WRITING BOTH POETRY AND FICTION.

IN MY FRESHMAN YEAR OF COLLEGE.

I FELL IN LOVE VIOLENTLY WITH SOMEONE WHO WAS MOST DANGEROUS TO ME.

THAT WAS WHERE I FIRST LOST MY VIRGINITY WAS IN HIS -- IN HIS OLD CAR IN THE BACK SEAT.

HE HATED CONDOMS.

I INSISTED WE USE THEM BUT HE SAID NO.

IN THOSE DAYS, CONTRACEPTION WAS ILLEGAL IN MANY STATES AND IT WAS CERTAINLY ILLEGAL FOR UNMARRIED WOMEN.

THE ATTITUDE TOWARD WOMEN WAS THAT WE HAD NO SEXUALITY AND IF WE DID WE WERE BAD.

IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME I WAS PREGNANT, BUT MY MOTHER NOTICED THAT I DIDN'T HAVE MY PERIOD.

A NUMBER OF MY FRIENDS HAD GOTTEN PREGNANT IN HIGH SCHOOL AND I SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR LIVES.

OFTEN THE MAN WOULD LEAVE AND YOU'D BE THERE WITH A BABY AND YOU HAD NO EDUCATION AND THEN THE JOBS OPEN TO YOU WERE MINIMAL.

AT THAT TIME, IF YOU WERE AFFLUENT, YOU FLEW TO PUERTO RICO OR MEXICO OR YOUR GYNECOLOGIST MIGHT DO IT.

BUT I WAS A POOR KID FROM A WORKING-CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD AND I DIDN'T KNOW ANY ABORTIONISTS.

I ABORTED MYSELF BY TAKING TWEEZERS AND PUSHING THEM INTO MY WOMB, OPENING IT AND PUSHING INSIDE.

THE PAIN WAS SO INTENSE I PASSED OUT.

I WOKE UP ON THE FLOOR IN A POOL OF BLOOD AND THE BLOOD KEPT COMING AND COMING AND COMING.

AND I ALMOST BLED TO DEATH.

THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT WAS IN ITS HEYDAY.

WE COULD SUMMON THOUSANDS OF WOMEN INTO THE STREETS OF CITIES TO -- TO FIGHT FOR ABORTION.

WE FOUGHT FOR IT.

WE POLITICKED FOR IT.

WE LOBBIED FOR IT.

>> THE OTHER MAJOR STORY TODAY IS FROM THE UNITED STATES STREAM WITHOUT.

>> TODAY THE SUPREME COURT LEGALIZED ABORTIONS.

>> THE COURT OVERTURNED LAWS IN TEXAS AND GEORGIA.

>> THE DECISION TO END THE PREGNANCY DURING THE FIRST 3 MONTHS BELONGS TO THE WOMAN AND THE DOCTOR NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

>> MERGE PIERCY: THE ROE V. WADE DECISION DID NOT COME DOWN FROM THE SUPREME COURT.

WE AGITATED.

I ALWAYS THINK OF MY GRANDMOTHER'S LIFE AND MY MOTHER'S LIFE AS OPPOSED TO MINE.

THE CHOICES THAT WERE AVAILABLE TO US, HOW MUCH MORE I COULD HAVE THAN THEY HAD.

AS A RESULT OF MY ABORTION, MY OPINION OF MYSELF WENT WAY UP.

I HAD BEEN WILLING TO ALMOST DIE TO TAKE CONTROL OF MY LIFE.

I FELT THAT I HAD LEARNED HOW STRONG I WAS AND I FELT THAT THE PATH WAS NOW CLEAR FOR ME TO BECOME THE WRITER I WANTED TO BE.

WHICH I WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO HAD I HAD A CHILD AT EIGHTEEN.

I BELIEVE THAT ROE VS. WADE WITH THE PRESENT JUDGES ON THE SUPREME COURT WILL PROBABLY BE OVERTURNED.

AND IF WOMEN DON'T TAKE TO THE STREETS, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR LIVES CAN BE LIKE.

>> A WOMAN WHO CANNOT OR DOES NOT WANT FOR WHATEVER THE REASON TO BE PREGNANT WILL DO ANYTHING, ANYTHING, TO STOP THE PREGNANCY.

AND THAT'S HISTORY.

>> WALDO FIELDING: MY DAD WAS A GENERAL PRACTITIONER AND THE BEST, BUT I DECIDED I WANTED TO DO OBSTETRICS, DELIVER BABIES AND GYNECOLOGY.

AND I NOT ONLY GOT IT, BUT I WAS QUOTE SUCCESSFUL AT IT.

I GOT OUT OF MEDICAL SCHOOL IN '44.

I WAS VERY LUCKY AND I RECEIVED THE RESIDENCY IN NEW YORK CITY THAT I FELT WOULD MEET MY NEEDS AND THAT WAS THREE YEARS AT HARLEM HOSPITAL IN UPPER MANHATTAN.

EVERYTHING THAT CAME THROUGH THE DOORS WAS MINE TO TAKE CARE OF.

AND THE NUMBERS OF INCOMPLETE, INFECTED, BLEEDING, POST-ABORTAL PREGNANCIES.

IT WAS AWFUL.

WHO IS DOING THE ABORTION?

IT'S SOMEBODY PROBABLY UNTRAINED, AND MAY NOT EVEN CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PATIENT AND IT'S A BACK ROOM, KITCHEN TABLE TYPE OF THING.

NOW THE PATIENT MAY LEAVE THAT NOT KNOWING THAT SHE'S BEEN DAMAGED.

SHE'S PAID HER FEE WHICH MIGHT BE EXORBITANT.

BUT SHE DOESN'T KNOW THAT SHE'S IN TROUBLE UNTIL SHE GETS HOME AND A DAY LATER OR THAT SAME DAY SHE BEGINS TO GET TERRIBLE CRAMPS, SHE'S BLEEDING, AND THEN SOMEBODY HAS TO GET HER TO GO TO A HOSPITAL.

AND SOME OF THEM WERE AFRAID TO GO TO A HOSPITAL BECAUSE OH, WE WOULD REPORT THEM BECAUSE ABORTION WAS ILLEGAL.

AND THEY WERE DOING AN ILLEGAL THING.

I NEVER ONCE ASKED A PATIENT, WHY DID YOU DO THIS?

WELL, THIS WAS NOT OUR BUSINESS.

THIS WAS THEIR BUSINESS.

DESPITE THE MANY THAT I TREATED, THIS PARTICULAR CASE STOOD OUT.

I HAD A VERY LOVELY WOMAN OF COLOR, A NURSE, CAME IN BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN ABORTED SOMEWHERE ON LONG ISLAND AND SHE DIDN'T FEEL WELL AND WE LOOKED AND SOMEBODY SAID OH, THAT'S HER UMBILICAL CORD HANGING DOWN.

WELL, WHEN I WENT OVER TO HER THAT UMBILICAL CORD WAS NOT THAT, IT WAS HER BOWEL, IT WAS HANGING TO THE FLOOR.

WE REMOVED HER UTERUS, HER TUBES, HER OVARIES SHE WAS NEVER GOING TO HAVE CHILDREN OF HER OWN AND THERE WAS FECES ALL OVER HER PELVIS OF COURSE.

AND WE JUST WASHED AND WASHED AND WASHED.

I MUST TELL YOU THIS, SIX MONTHS LATER I WENT TO HER WEDDING.

SHE INVITED ME TO HER WEDDING.

AND I WAS VERY HAPPY TO GO.

>> DR.

FIELDING: I NEVER HAD DONE ABORTIONS.

BUT I REALLY LEARNED HOW TO CLEAN THEM UP AFTER THEY'D BEEN BADLY MANAGED AND THAT CEMENTED IN MY MIND THAT WHY SHOULD THAT BE?

WHY NOT HAVE IT THAT THEY CAN HAVE IT DONE BETTER?

MY CLINIC ON BEACON STREET WE USED TO HAVE ON SATURDAYS LIKE FIVE OR SIX HUNDRED PROTESTORS.

I NEVER DARED PARK MY CAR THERE.

BUT THEY WOULD FIND ME AND FOLLOW ME ALONG THE STREET.

I NEVER FELT MORALLY THAT I WAS DOING THE WRONG THING.

WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT LIFE AS WE DETERMINE LIFE HAPPENS AT CONCEPTION.

THE POSSIBILITY OF LIFE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO LIFE, YES.

MY POSITION WAS THAT I WAS TAKING CARE OF A WOMAN, A GROWN WOMAN, AND THAT TO ME TOOK THE PLACE OF STOPPING A PREGNANCY BEFORE IT BECOMES THAT TYPE OF LIFE.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN CAN I IMAGINE IT WOULD HAPPEN IF ROE VS. WADE WENT AWAY?

WOMEN WOULD STILL HAVE ABORTIONS.

THEY'D NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM IN GOOD HOSPITALS BY GOOD DOCTORS WHO WERE TRAINED TO DO IT IF THERE WAS A LAW AGAINST IT.

MEN ARE DECIDING THESE THINGS.

WOMEN ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THE DECISION.

THEY HAVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN DARK ROOMS WITH EIGHT MEN, IN TIES AND THEY'RE DECIDING WHAT A WOMAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WITH HER OWN BODY.

>> WHEN I ASKED THE AIR FORCE DOCTOR FOR BIRTH CONTROL THE DOCTOR ASKED ME IF I WAS MARRIED AND I SAID NO.

AND THEN HE ASKED IF I WAS IN A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP TO WHICH I ALSO REPLIED NO.

AND HE SAID THEN YOU DON'T NEED BIRTH CONTROL.

I AM A SISTER, A DAUGHTER, A WIFE, A VETERAN.

I HAD A MOM WHO WAS VERY MUCH TRYING TO ASSIMILATE INTO AMERICAN CULTURE AND A GRANDMOTHER VERY DEEPLY ROOTED IN OUR MEXICAN HERITAGE.

I ALWAYS FELT LIKE I LIVED IN BETWEEN.

SO I WOULD BE LISTENING TO SELENA AND LOS TIGRES DE NORTE AT HOME BUT AT SCHOOL I'D BE LIKE, OH, MY GOSH.

DO YOU NOT LOVE THE SPICE GIRLS?

SEXUALITY WHEN I WAS GROWING UP MY MOM WAS VERY OPEN ABOUT IT AND I KNEW I COULD ALWAYS COME TO MY MOM IF I HAD A QUESTION BUT MY GRANDMOTHER VERY MUCH WAS BEING A VIRGIN IS EVERYTHING AND YOU SAVE THAT FOR MARRIAGE AND SEX IS BAD.

YOU JUST ONLY DO IT FOR CHILDREN.

I KNEW I WANTED TO SERVE SINCE 9/11.

I REMEMBER WALKING THE HALLWAYS OF MY SCHOOL AND JUST BEING SO CONFUSED BUT WANTING TO DO SOMETHING.

I ENLISTED IN THE AIR FORCE IN 2006.

I AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE WAS VERY SEX POSITIVE.

I THINK SEX WAS GREAT.

I HAD JUST LEARNED HOW TO HAVE AN ORGASM.

MY LIFE WAS SO CRAZY AT THAT POINT.

I HAD JUST LEFT KOREA AND THEN I HAD RECEIVED ORDERS FOR DEPLOYMENT ORIGINALLY TO IRAQ.

AND I WAS LIKE, ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GET EVERYTHING GOING.

SO I WAS READY TO GET MY ITEMS INTO STORAGE.

I HAD TAKEN EVERYTHING OUT OF MY APARTMENT AND THAT'S ON ONE TRIP TO WALMART I REALIZED SOMETHING IS NOT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

SO I TOOK A TEST AND FOUND OUT I WAS PREGNANT AND ALL I KEPT THINKING WAS I WAS LETTING MY TEAM DOWN.

AND I WAS MORTIFIED THAT I'D BE GOING BACK TO THE UNIT AND THEY WOULD BE LIKE UH 'SHE'S PREGNANT' AND THEN JUST REPLACE ME.

I KNEW I WANTED AN ABORTION BUT I COULDN'T GO TO A MILITARY DOCTOR.

PREPARING FOR DEPLOYMENT IS A VERY COSTLY ENDEAVOR.

I ENDED UP SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY JUST GETTING NEW GEAR SO BY THE TIME THAT I REALIZED I NEEDED THIS PROCEDURE, I WAS BROKE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

I WAS AT THE END OF MY ROPE.

I CALLED PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND I REMEMBER CALLING THE NORTH DAKOTA OFFICE.

THEY REFERRED ME TO A CLINIC IN MINNESOTA -- SO I HAD TO DRIVE FOUR HOURS.

AND I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT THREE DAYS.

I ALSO THOUGHT WHERE AM I GOING TO STAY?

SO THE ONLY OPTION WAS MY CAR AND EATING CRACKERS AND GATORADE.

I'M LIKE WE'RE GOING CHEAP.

LIKE THERE'S.••I NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH GAS TO GET ME BACK TO WORK AFTER ALL OF THIS IS DONE.

AND THERE WAS THE OPTION TO BE AWAKE OR NOT AWAKE.

BUT THE NOT AWAKE VERSION COST 150 MORE DOLLARS AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN EITHER.

AFTER THE ABORTION, I WISH I COULD SAY I HAD ENOUGH TIME TO PROCESS EXACTLY WHAT HAD HAPPENED, BUT WE LITERALLY WENT RIGHT INTO A WAR.

I THREW MYSELF INTO WORK AND I, I SAW THE BENEFITS OF IT.

I SAW THINGS THAT WILL FOREVER CHANGE MY LIFE AND I HAD EXPERIENCES THAT HAVE MADE ME WHO I AM.

AND WHEN I DID DEAL WITH IT, I JUST KEPT THINKING LIKE I SHOULD FEEL GUILTY, MAYBE I SHOULD FEEL GUILTY, MAYBE I SHOULD FEEL SAD ABOUT THIS.

MAYBE, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY WRONG WITH ME.

AND IT TOOK A REALLY LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT THAT THERE WASN'T.

I HAD MADE THE BEST DECISION FOR MYSELF.

AND PART OF COMPREHENSIVE SEX CARE AND HEALTHCARE IS ABORTION.

>> I HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE MAKING -- DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO COME HERE TODAY, WHETHER OR NOT TO DO THIS INTERVIEW.

BUT ULTIMATELY, I SHOWED UP.

AND I SHOWED UP BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

MY NAME'S DANIELLE LANG.

I GREW UP IN LEVITTOWN, PENNSYLVANIA.

I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC.

I WENT TO CHURCH AND SUNDAY SCHOOL.

I WANTED TO BE AN ATTORNEY BECAUSE I FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER WANTED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF DIFFERENCE AND APPEAL TO JUSTICE IN THE WORLD.

WHEN I ACCIDENTALLY BECAME PREGNANT I WAS 22 YEARS-OLD.

IT WAS A CONTRACEPTION FAILURE.

I WAS ON THE PILL AT THE TIME.

I HAD JUST GRADUATED FROM NYU.

I WAS STUDYING FOR THE LSAT WHILE I WAS WAITING TABLES.

THE DECISION WASN'T VERY DIFFICULT AT ALL.

I WAS NOT IN A PLACE TO BE A MOM.

IT WAS AN EASY DECISION FOR MY PARTNER.

HE ALSO FELT LIKE HE WAS NOT IN A PLACE TO BE A FATHER.

IT WAS EASY FOR ME TO FIND A DOCTOR.

THE FIRST TIME I WENT SHE LAID OUT ALL MY OPTIONS AND SAID IF THIS IS THE DECISION YOU MAKE, IT'S TOTALLY MEDICALLY SAFE AND I'M HAPPY TO DO IT FOR YOU.

WHAT WAS HARDER I THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS WAS WHAT CAME AFTERWARDS AND HOW I FELT ABOUT IT.

AND IT WASN'T SOME SENSE OF REGRET.

AT ALL.

IT WASN'T SOME SENSE THAT I'D MADE THE WRONG DECISION.

BUT I DO THINK I WAS SURPRISED BY HOW STIGMATIZING IT FELT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

THAT I SUDDENLY FELT LIKE I HAD THIS SECRET THAT THE WORLD WAS EXPECTING ME TO KEEP, EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T THINK IT NEEDED TO BE A SECRET.

AND IT OCCURRED TO ME AFTER I'D HAD THE ABORTION THAT I DIDN'T -- NOBODY HAD EVER TOLD ME ABOUT THEIRS BEFORE SO I WAS KIND OF OUT THERE ON MY OWN.

SO I KNEW THAT LOTS OF WOMEN DO.

AND YET I LOOKED AROUND AND THERE WASN'T ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT IT.

>> NATS: "BABIES ARE BEING MURDERED."

>> ALL YOU HEAR IS EXTREMIST RHETORIC.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY VOICE IN THE ROOM.

PART OF THE EXTREMIST RHETORIC IS THIS IDEA THAT WOMEN WILL COME TO REGRET THEIR DECISIONS LATER AND THAT JUST SEEMED REALLY WRONG TO ME AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS LIVED IT.

AT LEAST THAT'S NOT THE EXPERIENCE FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF WOMEN AND IT CERTAINLY WASN'T MY EXPERIENCE.

BUT IF I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT AND IF OTHER PEOPLE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, THEN HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT'S THE WRONG STORY TO BE TELLING?

WHILE I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL THE MORE WORK I DID ON REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ISSUES, THE MORE OBVIOUS IT BECAME HOW EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT IT CAN BE FOR WOMEN TO JUST ACCESS A CLINIC THAT CAN PROVIDE SERVICES.

IN 2013, TEXAS PASSED ONE OF THE RESTRICTIONS IN TEXAS WERE SO EXTREME THAT IT WAS GOING TO CLOSE ALMOST ALL OF THE CLINICS IN TEXAS.

THE CASE WAS HEADED TO THE SUPREME COURT.

AND THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE A BRIEF FROM LAWYERS WHO HAD HAD ABORTIONS TO THE JUSTICES ON THE COURT.

BECAUSE WE IN MANY WAYS ARE THEIR CLOSEST COLLEAGUES.

I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT I WAS ONE OF THE SIGNERS.

IT WAS IMPORTANT TO IMPRESS ON THE JUSTICES THAT THIS WAS AN ISSUE THAT NOT ONLY AFFECTED WOMEN THAT THEY COULDN'T REALLY IMAGINE BUT THAT IT AFFECTED WOMEN THAT CLERKED FOR THEM, THAT STOOD BEFORE THEM IN COURT AND ARGUED THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT TOUCHED ALL WOMEN.

AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THERE'S A HAPPY ENDING TO THAT STORY.

>>NATS: WOMEN WON TODAY .•• WITH THIS HISTORIC RULING, JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED AND OUR CLINICS CAN STAY OPEN.

MEMBERSHIP [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> SO LONG AS THE EXPERIENCE IS SHROUDED IN SECRECY, SO LONG AS THE PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS DON'T THINK ABOUT IT AS THEIR COLLEAGUES, THEIR FRIENDS IT'LL MAKE IT EASIER TO DEMONIZE THE EXPERIENCE.

AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE JUST WITH ME, BUT IT IS GOING TO CHANGE WITH INDIVIDUAL VOICES AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT WILL CHANGE.

>> GAYLON ALCARAZ: WOMEN OF COLOR -- HAVE BEEN TRYING TO NAVIGATE AND HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THEIR BODIES SINCE SLAVERY.

I GREW UP IN CHICAGO ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

WE DEALT A LOT WITH POVERTY, ESPECIALLY AFTER MY DAD WAS KILLED.

POVERTY, FOOD INSECURITY, UNSTABLE HOUSING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN I HEADED OFF TO A CATHOLIC GIRL'S SCHOOL AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO GET ANY COMPREHENSIVE SEX EDUCATION.

AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT MY BODY.

I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL.

I DIDN'T EVEN REALLY KNOW -- UNDERSTAND MY PERIOD.

THE FIRST TIME THAT I GOT PREGNANT I HAD JUST GOTTEN OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL SO I WAS LIKE 17.

YOU KNOW I WAS NOT GOING TO BE A MOM.

SO I DECIDED TO HAVE AN ABORTION.

I WAS VERY, VERY LUCKY THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY.

MY MOM AND THE GUY PAID FOR IT.

YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS LUCK.

AND SO I DID HAVE ANOTHER RELATIONSHIP.

HE WAS A MUCH, MUCH OLDER GUY AND IT WAS JUST AN UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIP.

HE WASN'T USING CONDOMS, AND, AND HE WASN'T GOING TO USE CONDOMS.

AND SO I'M 18 AND THIS GUY IS 29 - 30, AM I MORE POWERFUL THAN HIM IN OUR RELATIONSHIP?

I DON'T THINK SO.

HE WAS ABUSIVE.

THIS DIDN'T FEEL LIKE A GOOD LOVE.

I WAS ALWAYS CRYING.

I WAS ALWAYS UPSET AND UNHAPPY.

AND SO I WAS MAKING THE DECISION THAT I WAS GOING TO BE LEAVING THIS RELATIONSHIP AT SOME POINT AND I GOT PREGNANT AGAIN.

AND YOU KNOW AT THE VERY BEGINNING I THOUGHT ABOUT ABORTION, BUT I, YOU KNOW SOMETHING IN MY HEAD I WAS JUST LIKE YOU KNOW, I -- I'M GOING TO CARRY THIS PREGNANCY TO TERM.

I STARTED WRITING MY SON LOVE LETTERS WHEN I WAS PREGNANT WITH HIM.

I JUST, I REALLY WANTED HIM.

I WAS GOING TO TRY TO WORK IT OUT WITH THE -- THE FATHER.

AND SO WE GOT THIS APARTMENT BUT IT WAS HORRIBLE.

YEAH, I ENDED UP GETTING A -- AN ORDER OF PROTECTION.

YOU KNOW MY SON, HE DIDN'T EVER GO HUNGRY, SO WE MADE IT ON A PRAYER.

WE MADE IT ON A PRAYER.

THE BIRTH OF MY SECOND CHILD, CAME AFTER I, YOU KNOW I HAD MET SOMEBODY, GOTTEN MARRIED.

AND I ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW I PLANNED HER.

THERE WERE A SERIES OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO PUT ME ON THE PATH TO BECOME A PROFESSIONAL ACTIVIST.

IN THE PRO-CHOICE MOVEMENT THE CONVERSATION TENDED TO CENTER ON JUST ABORTION RIGHTS.

AND WOMEN OF COLOR WERE LIKE, THAT'S NOT THE TOTALITY OF OUR LIVES.

THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE.

REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE IS THE MERGING OF REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS AND SOCIAL JUSTICE, THE ABILITY TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM, THE ABILITY TO TERMINATE THAT PREGNANCY IF THAT -- THE WOMAN IS NOT READY.

AND THE ABILITY TO PARENT THE CHILDREN THAT, THAT SHE ALREADY HAS WITH ALL THE ADEQUATE AND NECESSARY SUPPORTS NEEDED TO DO THOSE THINGS.

AND SO THAT IS REALLY THE REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE MODEL.

EVERY WOMAN HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISION FOR HERSELF.

>> BONNIE: WE HOPE YOU FOUND THIS EDITION OF ALL ABOUT WOMEN AND GIRLS FILM FESTIVAL ENLIGHTENING.

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