REPORT FROM SANTA FE IS MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY GRANTS FROM THE NEW MEXICO MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, A BETTER NEW MEXICO THROUGH BETTER CITIES AND FROM >>LORENE: HELLO, I AM LORENE MILLS AND WELCOME TO REPORT FROM SANTA FE .

OUR GUESTS TODAY ARE BOBBI HELLER WHO IS WITH FELINES AND FRIENDS NEW MEXICO, YOU ARE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND MURAD KIRDAR WHO IS A PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER FOR THE SANTA FE ANIMAL SHELTER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

I HAVE INVITED YOU HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE EVACUATION SITUATION AND PARTICULARLY PEOPLE WHO ARE EVACUATING THEIR ANIMALS AND ALL OF THE DISTRESSED REFUGEE TRAUMATIZED ANIMALS THAT YOU ARE TAKING IN FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES, HAVE BEEN EVACUATED.

AND SO, COULD YOU DESCRIBE KIND OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN NEW MEXICO NOW WITH THE FIRES AND WITH THE EVACUATIONS.

>>BOBBI: SURE, I'LL START.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE FIRES WITH EVACUATIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE GOT PEOPLE COMING FROM DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEY NEED A PLACE TO MOVE WITH THEIR ANIMALS AND WE KEEP ON SAYING, "IF YOU ARE IN THE READY MODE, YOU SHOULD GET YOUR ANIMALS OUT AHEAD OF TIME."

SO THE SANTA FE SHELTER AND FELINES AND FRIENDS ARE TAKING IN CATS AND DOGS.

WE ARE SPECIALIZING OBVIOUSLY IN CATS AND WE ARE HOUSING THEM UP AT SANTA FE CATS ON TANO ROAD AND WE HAVE BEEN FULL WITH CATS.

SOME OF THE LOS ALAMOS CATS HAVE NOW GONE BACK, BUT NOW WE ARE GETTING THEM FROM PECOS EVEN MORE OF THEM.

SO LAST WEEK I THINK WE HAD 26 OR 27 CATS PLUS WE TOOK A LITTER OF KITTENS THAT THE MOTHER RAN AWAY, SMOKE, SO WE TOOK THEM AS WELL.

>>LORENE: AH, THANK YOU.

>>BOBBI: AND BEING BOTTLE-FED BY A VOLUNTEER.

>>LORENE: OH, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL.

>>MURAD: DEFINITELY, RIGHT NOW, A PERFECT STORM.

WITH THE FIRES GOING ON ALL AROUND SANTA FE AND THEN YOU HAVE KITTEN AND PUPPY SEASON ALSO GOING ON, IT IS THE PERFECT STORM FOR SHELTERS AND RESCUES THAT ARE DEALING WITH ALL THIS.

SANTA FE ANIMAL SHELTER HAS WELCOMED IN ANIMALS FROM LAS VEGAS, FROM PECOS, FROM LOS ALAMOS.

AND THE BEST THING TO COME OUT OF THIS WHOLE THING, I MEAN IT IS SO DEVASTATING, HEARTBREAKING WHAT IS GOING ON, BUT THE BEST THING IS HOW ALL THESE ANIMAL WELFARE GROUPS ARE WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF THE ANIMALS.

AND HOW THE COMMUNITY HAS STEPPED UP TO DONATE ITEMS, DONATE MONEY AND JUST HELPING ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL COMING TOGETHER FOR THE PURPOSE OF SAVING THE ANIMALS.

>>LORENE: RIGHT, WELL, THIS IS KIND OF AN UNPRECEDENTED SITUATION WITH THE NUMBER OF FIRES AND THE NUMBERS OF COMMUNITIES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MORA AND THE LAS VEGAS AREA AND ALL OF THAT.

SO ALTHOUGH YOU SPECIALIZE IN DOMESTIC YOU KNOW, PERSONAL COMPANION ANIMALS, WHO IS TAKING CARE OF THE HORSES AND THE CHICKENS AND, YOU KNOW, THE FARM ANIMALS, LIVESTOCK?

>>MURAD: THERE IS A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS HELPING OUT WITH THE LIVESTOCK RIGHT NOW AT THE FAIR GROUNDS, THE SANTA FE FAIR GROUNDS.

YOU CAN BRING YOUR LIVESTOCK THERE.

WHAT I LOVE SEEING IS COMMUNITY PEOPLE, THEY HAVE ROOM, IF THEY HAVE AN OPEN STALL AT THEIR HOUSE, THEY PUT IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA - "I HAVE ROOM."

AND IT IS JUST SHOWING THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE HOW WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, AND THEY ARE COMPLETE STRANGERS, YESTERDAY, BUT TODAY, WE ARE ALL COMING TOGETHER TO HELP THEM.

>>BOBBIE: WE ARE SEEING WITH THE HORSES THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TRANSPORT, THEY HAVE GOT MORE HORSES THAN THEY HAVE GOT TRAILERS.

>>LORENE: HORSE TRAILERS.

>>MURAD: RIGHT.

>>BOBBI: AND SO THEY ARE POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I HAVE SEEN QUITE A FEW WHERE THEY HAVE SAID, "OH, I CAN COME GET THE HORSE AND PUT IT AT MY PROPERTY."

AND ANYBODY WHO HAS GOT A HORSE OR TWO THEY CAN TAKE AN EXTRA COUPLE AT LEAST FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE TRANSPORT AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE.

I MEAN IF YOU HAVE GOT TEN HORSES, YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE TEN TRAILERS.

>>LORENE: OR 10 TRIPS OR ONE BIG ONE.

YEAH.

>>MURAD: RIGHT.

THAT'S A LOT.

>>BOBBI: SO IT HAS BEEN INTERESTING TO SEE, LIKE MURAD SAID, EVERYBODY IS COMING TOGETHER AND SO IT IS WELFARE GROUPS, THE SHELTER AND ALSO INDIVIDUALS, SO THAT IS HUGE.

BUT WE ALSO DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW IT IMPACTS THE ANIMALS THEMSELVES.

AND YOU KNOW, DOGS AND CATS ARE USED TO THEIR HOMES WHATEVER THAT IS, WHETHER THEY ARE INDOOR, INDOOR OUTDOOR, OUT IN A RURAL AREA, AND SO WHAT WE ARE SEEING WITH THE CATS IS THE GROUP THAT I JUST TOOK YESTERDAY FROM PECOS, THEY CAME THROUGH, THE POOR WOMAN, SHE DOESN'T KNOW IF HER HOUSE IS GOING TO SURVIVE.

BUT THE CATS WERE TOTALLY SHUT DOWN, SHE HAD TO YOU KNOW STUFF THEM INTO CARRIERS AND THEN DO THE LONG DRIVE AND THEY CAN PROBABLY PICK UP ON HER OWN ANXIETY AND SO OUR CHALLENGE IS TO GET THEM SETTLED AND THEN GET THEM EATING AND SOMETHING YOU KNOW A MORE NORMAL ROUTINE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT AT HOME.

AND DOGS ARE NO DIFFERENT, I MEAN, REALLY, OUR COMPANION ANIMALS ARE CREATURES OF HABIT.

>>MURAD: YEAH, WE HAD A LADY THAT HAD A CAT FOR 22 YEARS.

THE CAT IS 22 YEARS OLD AND IT HAS NEVER BEEN OUT OF THE HOUSE.

AND SHE WENT TO ONE OF THE EVACUEE'S SHELTERS AND THEY DIDN'T TAKE CATS, SO SHE REACHED OUT TO US.

SHE BROUGHT THE CAT TO US, AND THE CAT WAS JUST SHUT DOWN, AND THE ANIMALS FEEL IT AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE IS PREPARE NOW, DON'T WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE TOLD TO EVACUATE.

PREPARE, GRAB AND GO CONTAINERS, MAKE SURE YOUR ANIMALS HAVE EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED.

PREPARE NOW SO IF THE READY-SET-GO AND YOU ARE TOLD READY OR EVEN SET, THAT'S WHEN YOU SHOULD BE EVACUATING.

BY THE TIME THAT THEY GO, IT IS TOO LATE, THE ANIMALS ARE COMPLETELY STRESSED OUT.

>>BOBBI: AND IF IT IS A CAT OR ANOTHER ANIMAL, I MEAN YOU KNOW, RABBITS AND FERRETS AND SO FORTH, YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE A CONTAINER TO TRANSPORT THEM IN.

AND HAVING A CARRIER STUCK IN THE BACK OF A SHED IS NOT GOING TO HELP YOU THAT YOU HAVEN'T USED AND YOU ARE NOT QUITE SURE OF WHERE IT IS.

WE ARE TELLING PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, GET ALL OF THAT READY, PUT IN A TOWEL, PUT IN WEE WEE PADS, WHATEVER, HAVE THOSE READY TO GO SO THAT IF YOU DO HAVE TO LEAVE, YOU ARE NOT SCRAMBLING FOR THAT AND THEN THAT LEADS US TO ALSO HAVING THE TO-GO-KIT OF WHAT DOES A DOG AND WHAT DOES A CAT NEED WHEN YOU ARE MOVING IT AWAY FROM ITS HOME.

>>LORENE: WELL, MURAD, JUST HAPPENS TO HAVE ONE.

AND WHILE YOU GET IT OUT, I JUST WANT TO SAY PEOPLE, HUMANS ARE CREATURES OF DENIAL AND THEY THINK OH, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.

IT IS FIVE MILES AWAY, I AM OKAY AND THE RELIEF IN HAVING PREPARED.

BECAUSE WHEN THE FLAMES ARE THERE, YOU CAN'T THINK ANYMORE, YOU ARE JUST ON ESCAPE MODE.

SO, IT WOULD BE WISE FOR EVERY ONE OF YOUR PETS TO HAVE, THIS IS A GRAB AND GO BAG FOR A DOG, WHAT IS IN IT?

>>MURAD: SO THIS IS CHARLIE'S, MY THREE YEAR OLD DOG.

FIRST THING YOU SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE IS A PHOTO, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A PHOTO, A CURRENT PHOTO OF YOUR ANIMALS.

YOU DON'T KNOW IF THE DOG IS GOING TO RUN AWAY, YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO A SHELTER TO FIND THE DOG.

>>BOBBI: RIGHT.

>>MURAD: BUT THIS IS YOUR EVIDENCE AND THIS YOU CAN MAKE POSTERS OUT OF AND EVERYTHING, SO HAVE A CURRENT PHOTO.

ALWAYS HAVE WATER, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW ONCE YOU GET INTO THE CAR, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHERE THE WATER STATION IS, THE GAS STATION, IT MIGHT BE PACKED UP.

SO HAVE SOME WATER READY TO GO.

FOOD, FOOD IS VERY IMPORTANT, HAVE YOUR DOG FOOD WHATEVER THEY EAT HAVE A GOOD WEEK'S WORTH OF FOOD.

AND WHAT I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE IS THE DISH BECAUSE PEOPLE FORGET THE DISH.

>>LORENE: RIGHT.

>>MURAD: YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE A DISH.

VERY IMPORTANT ALSO, EVEN THOUGH YOUR DOG HAS THEIR COLLAR ON HOPEFULLY AT ALL TIMES, HAVE AN EXTRA SET.

HAVE AN EXTRA COLLAR, HERE'S CHARLIE, CHARLIE'S NAME IS ON IT, MY CELL NUMBER IS ON IT.

SO HAVE THAT JUST IN CASE WHATEVER REASON THE DOG LOSES THEIR COLLAR, YOU HAVE A SECOND ONE AND HAVE A SPARE LEASH JUST IN CASE AS WELL.

>>LORENE: WONDERFUL.

>>MURAD: POOPY BAGS, VERY IMPORTANT, ALWAYS TAKE A POOPY.

YOU WANT SOME TOYS TO KEEP THEM OCCUPIED.

THEY ARE NOT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO A SHELTER YOU ARE GOING WHEREVER YOU ARE GOING, YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM OCCUPIED, OTHERWISE, THEY ARE GOING TO BE STRESSED OUT.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>MURAD: SO HAVE THEIR FAVORITE TOYS AND I ALWAYS SAY THAT THE ANIMALS GET DIRTY.

SO HAVE A GROOMING SUPPLY.

IF YOU NEED A BRUSH, THIS IS CHARLIE'S BRUSH SO WE BRUSH HER DOWN SO HAVE A BRUSH ON HAND AND THEN FINALLY, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, A FIRST AID KIT.

A FIRST AID KIT, YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING, WHAT THE SITUATION IS GOING TO BE, SO IN MY FIRST AID KIT, I HAVE BAND-AIDS, GAUZE, BLUNT SCISSORS, HAVE ALL THAT JUST IN CASE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE TO CLEAN ALL THE WOUNDS.

JUST A SIMPLE BAG AND FOR EVERY PET HAVE IT.

IF YOU HAVE CATS, EXACTLY THE SAME STUFF BUT MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LITTER BOX AND LITTER, OTHERWISE THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.

>>BOBBI: AND THE PHOTO THING IS VERY IMPORTANT ON CATS AS WELL BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE THE PHOTOS OF THE KITTENS.

>>LORENE: YES.

>>BOBBI: BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THEM AND IT IS PRINTED.

NOW BECAUSE MOST OF US HAVE A THOUSAND AND ONE PHOTOS OF PETS ON OUR PHONES SO AT LEAST YOU HAVE GOT SOMETHING THERE.

AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR PETS MICROCHIPPED, HAVING THAT INFORMATION ON YOUR PHONE BECAUSE THAT IS ALSO A WAY TO EASILY IDENTIFY IF THE ANIMAL GETS AWAY FROM YOU WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO TRANSPORT AND IT DOESN'T END UP, YOU KNOW, AT THE SANTA FE SHELTER, THEY WILL SCAN IMMEDIATELY.

WE HAVE TAKEN IN DOZENS, ALMOST TWO DOZEN CATS AT THE SANTA FE CATS AND THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS WE SCANNED THEM FOR A MICROCHIP BECAUSE SOME OF THE OWNERS DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY WERE CHIPPED.

SO WE HAVE WRITTEN DOWN THE NUMBER WHEN THE OWNERS RECLAIM THEM, WE SAY, "HERE'S THE NUMBER, PLEASE REGISTER THEM."

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: BUT THAT AT LEAST GIVES US A FORM OF IDENTIFICATION BECAUSE WE DO GET SEVERAL BLACK CATS AND SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT.

NOW, THEY ARE IN THEIR OWN SPACES BUT IF THEY DO GET SOME EXERCISE TIME, WE DO NEED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT WE DON'T GIVE THE WRONG CAT BACK TO THEIR OWNER.

>>MURAD: WHAT I WOULD TELL YOUR AUDIENCE TODAY, WHEN THEY ARE DONE WATCHING THE SHOW, THEY SHOULD MAKE SURE THE MICROCHIP IS UPDATED.

IF THEY DON'T KNOW, WHEN THEY GO TO THE VET OR THEY CAN ALWAYS COME DOWN TO THE SANTA FE ANIMAL SHELTER, YOU CAN GO TO PRETTY MUCH ANY VET, AND THEY WILL SCAN THE ANIMAL AND THEY WILL TELL YOU WHO IT IS REGISTERED TO.

SO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION.

IF YOU CHANGED YOUR PHONE NUMBER, IF YOU HAVE MOVED, MAKE SURE IT IS ALL UPDATED.

AND I BEG PEOPLE TO ALWAYS HAVE A COLLAR ON YOUR ANIMAL WHETHER THEY JUST GET OUT OF THE BATH OR WHATEVER, MAKE SURE THAT EVERY DOG AND CAT HAS A COLLAR WITH YOUR PHONE NUMBER ON IT.

>>BOBBI: YEAH, PRETTY COLLARS BY THEMSELVES DON'T DO ANY GOOD.

AND WE HAVE HAD THAT HAPPEN SO MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW THE CAT ARRIVES AND IT IS AN ADORABLE LITTLE COLLAR BUT THERE IS NO INFORMATION WHATSOEVER.

>>MURAD: AND A CELL NUMBER.

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE A LOT OF PEOPLE PUT THEIR HOME NUMBER WITH THE LANDLINE, BUT IF YOU GET EVACUATED, THE LANDLINE DOES NO GOOD, SO HAVE YOUR CELL NUMBER ON THE ANIMAL AT ALL TIMES.

>>LORENE: AND I JUST HEARD THIS MORNING A STORY OF SOMEBODY WHO, A DOG APPEARED ON THEIR DOORSTEP AND SO THEY CALLED THE NUMBER ON THE TAG.

WELL, THE DOG WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY A DOG SITTER AT THE HOUSE, AND THEY CALL THE OWNER ON VACATION AND SAID, "THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I HAVE HEARD THAT MY DOG HAD GONE MISSING."

>>MURAD: AH, YES.

>>LORENE: AND OF COURSE, THEY REUNITED THEM BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR CELL NUMBER.

>>MURAD: THINK THAT DOG SITTER WILL BE FIRED.

>>LORENE: I THINK SO.

>>MURAD: I WANT TO SHARE A STAT WITH YOU.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS BUT THE ASPCA REPORTED THAT A PET OWNER WHO HAS LEFT THEIR ANIMAL BEHIND DURING A DISASTER EVACUATION ALMOST 30 PERCENT OF THEM SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO EVACUATE AND, IN ADDITION, THEY FOUND THAT NEARLY 40% OF PETS ONLY EVACUEES WERE NOT ABLE TO RETURN TO THEIR HOME FOR AT LEAST FOUR DAYS, MEANING THAT THE ANIMALS WERE THERE TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES FOR THIS FOUR DAYS AND A LOT CAN HAPPEN.

SO PREPARE NOW, KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO GO IF YOU HAVE A DOG OR CAT, WHAT HOTELS WILL ACCEPT YOU, WILL YOUR FRIENDS WHO LIVE OUT OF TOWN, WILL THEY ACCEPT A CAT OR DOG?

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, AH, I AM JUST GOING TO STAY AT MY FRIEND'S HOUSE, BUT DO YOU REALIZE THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE DOGS THAT ARE GOING TO SCARE THE CATS.

>>BOBBI: RIGHT.

>>LORENE: OR THEY MIGHT HAVE A CHILD THAT IS ALLERGIC.

>>MURAD: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: YES.

>>MURAD: YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF, AND YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT NOW NOT WHEN YOU ARE TOLD TO EVACUATE.

>>LORENE: RIGHT, RIGHT.

WELL WE ARE SPEAKING TODAY WITH BOBBI HELLER AND MURAD KIRDAR ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT EVACUATING ANIMALS AND I INTERRUPTED YOU, PLEASE CONTINUE.

>>BOBBI: OH, WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT LUCKILY WITH LOS ALAMOS BEING NOW FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS, THE CATS THAT WE TOOK IN FROM THERE, MANY OF THOSE OWNERS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME AND RECLAIM THEM.

BUT, THEY WERE SMART, THEY BROUGHT THEM DOWN EVEN THOUGH THEY ACTUALLY SEVERAL FAMILIES DID NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO EVACUATE, THEY BROUGHT THEIR CATS DOWN IN ADVANCE.

MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPORT BECAUSE A COUPLE OF THEM HAD MORE THAN JUST ONE OR TWO CATS.

>>LORENE: OH.

>>BOBBI: WE WON'T SAY HOW MANY, BUT THERE WAS A LOT AND SO THEY BROUGHT THEM ALL DOWN IN ADVANCE BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GET THAT EVACUATION MANDATE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING YOU KNOW FIVE, SIX, SEVEN CATS AND WHERE TO PUT THEM.

AND THE OTHER THING IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE IS THAT MANY HOTELS SAY THEY ARE PET FRIENDLY, BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY ONLY DOG FRIENDLY.

AND SO WHEN YOU ARE EVACUATING WITH A CAT, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO END UP IN A HOTEL WITH THE CAT AND THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT PLAN AS WELL WHICH IS WHY OUR ORGANIZATION, FELINES AND FRIENDS, AND WE OWN SANTA FE CATS, WE STEP FORWARD AND SAID, WE HAVE THE SPACE, WE HAVE THE STAFF AND WE CAN HOUSE THE CATS.

WE EVEN ALSO TAKE POCKET PETS SO IF THERE HAD BEEN PEOPLE WITH RABBITS OR FERRETS OR WHATEVER, WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THEM AS WELL.

>>MURAD: YEAH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW CATS DON'T DO WELL IN A BOX.

>>BOBBI: NO.

>>LORENE: WELL THEY DO IF IT IS A CARDBOARD BOX JUST SITTING THERE AND NOT FEELING TRAPPED.

>>MURAD: RIGHT.

YEAH BUT A LOT OF THE EVACUATED SHELTERS, I MEAN THEY ARE TAKING OWNED DOGS WHICH A DOG CAN BE HAPPY AND YOU GIVE THEM A TOY AND THEY ARE FINE IN THEIR CRATE.

BUT A CAT IS NOT GOING TO DO WELL AND THANK GOODNESS FOR FELINES AND FRIENDS AND THE SANTA FE ANIMAL SHELTER WE ARE TAKING IN THOSE OWNED ANIMALS.

SO IT IS ONE LESS STRESS THAN AN OWNER WOULD HAVE TO REALLY WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE WE WILL TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM AND ALSO WE WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE, IF YOU DO NEED FOOD, IF YOU HAVE BEEN DISPLACED FOR ANY REASON AND YOU ARE JUST HAVING A HARD TIME, REACH OUT TO US.

WE HAVE FOOD, WE HAVE CAT LITTER, WE HAVE SUPPLIES WHATEVER YOU NEED, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST PEOPLE AND ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR COMPANION ANIMALS.

>>BOBBI: SO THAT THEY CAN GET THEM BACK WHEN THEY ARE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THEIR HOME HOPEFULLY AND THEY HAVEN'T LOST THEIR HOME.

I MEAN THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE ALREADY FOUND OUT HAVE AND WE MAY END UP KEEPING THE CATS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WHILE THEY FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO BUT AT LEAST THEY WILL BE SAFE.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: AND THAT'S THE KEY SO THAT THEY DIDN'T LOSE EVERYTHING.

BECAUSE I THINK THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF LOSING A COMPANION ANIMAL IN A FIRE, I MEAN FIRE TO ME, I AM FROM AUSTRALIA AND IT IS THE LAND OF FIRE AND FIRE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BIG CONCERN AND SO HERE WE ARE.

IN SANTA FE WE ARE LUCKY BUT THE SURROUNDING AREAS IT'S ALWAYS FRESH ON MY MIND, SO HAVING A PLACE TO GO AND HAVING THAT PLAN IS SO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

>>LORENE: AND PET OWNERS LOVE THEIR PETS AND WILL DO ANYTHING FOR THEIR PETS AND WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS WE ARE ASKING THEM TO BE PROACTIVE AND TO THINK, OH, IT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN, YES, BUT AT LEAST I KNOW WHAT HOTEL I COULD GO TO.

>>BOBBI: YEAH.

>>LORENE: YOU KNOW I HAVE THE TO-GO-BAG READY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIND EVERYTHING.

>>BOBBI: RIGHT.

>>LORENE: AND JUST TO ME THE THOUGHT OF THOSE ANIMALS WHEN IT TAKES FOUR DAYS FOR THE OWNER TO COME BACK, THAT WAS 40 PERCENT?

>>BOBBI: YES.

>>LORENE: WELL, THAT ANIMAL WAS EXPOSED TO WINDS, FIRE, MARAUDING ESCAPING ANIMALS JUST THE TERROR.

>>MURAD: YUP.

>>LORENE: AND THE GRIEF THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABANDONED AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND WHERE TO GO.

>>BOBBI: AND THEN THERE IS NO FOOD OR WATER.

>>LORENE: NO FOOD OR WATER, NO WATER FOR SURE.

>>BOBBI: THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PROCESS OF WHAT IS GOING ON.

>>LORENE: YEAH, IT IS JUST LIKE HELL.

>>BOBBI: AND PEOPLE NEED TO-GO-BAGS AND SO DO THE PETS AND LIVING IN LOS ANGELES FOR 24 YEARS BECAUSE OF EARTHQUAKES, WE HAD TO-GO-BAGS FOR OUR CATS AND ALSO US.

BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL OF GAS LEAKS, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO BACK INTO YOUR HOUSE IMMEDIATELY.

YOUR HOUSE IS OKAY AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO BACK BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE IMMEDIATELY IF THERE ARE GAS LEAKS.

>>LORENE: IT MIGHT BE A POSSIBLE EXPLOSION SITE AND WE SHOULD GO.

WELL LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE NEED IN THEIR TO-GO-BAG BECAUSE IF YOU DO THIS IN ADVANCE, YOU CAN SAVE YOURSELF SO MUCH TROUBLE.

XEROX IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS, YOUR PASSPORT, YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE, YOUR INSURANCE PAPERS, ALL OF THAT STUFF AND WHAT ELSE, OF COURSE, MEDICINE.

>>BOBBI: MEDICINE WOULD BE THE NEXT BIGGEST THING BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A PRESCRIPTION ON CALL AND ESPECIALLY FOR ANYBODY WHO IS ASTHMATIC AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH ALL THE SMOKE IS THAT IT TRIGGERS ASTHMA ATTACKS FOR EVERYBODY, SO, YOU WANT ALL OF THAT.

I MEAN HEART MEDICINE, ASTHMA MEDICINE, ALL OF THE TYPICAL STUFF THAT IF YOU NEED IT DAILY, YOU NEED IT IN A TO-GO-BAG AND THEN OF COURSE, WATCH THE EXPIRATIONS.

>>LORENE: KEEP IT FRESH.

>>BOBBI: YEAH, AND KEEP IT REFRESHED.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: AND A FIRST AID KIT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW IN YOUR PANIC YOU COULD CUT YOURSELF ON YOUR OWN VEHICLE JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE IN A HURRY TRYING TO GET IN, SO, YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE THAT.

BUT TWO-LEGGED OR FOUR-LEGGED, THE TO-GO-BAGS TO HAVE THAT SET UP IS DEFINITELY THE WAY TO GO.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN GO TO A HOTEL AND YOU WILL YOU NEED CLOTHES.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

YEAH.

>>BOBBI: IT IS STILL THE BASICS THERE.

I MEAN WHEN I TRAVEL, I HAVE ONE OF EVERYTHING IN MY BACKPACK IN CASE MY LUGGAGE GETS LOST.

>>MURAD: IT'S WISE.

>>BOBBI: WELL IT IS THE SAME IDEA, YOU KNOW ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE UNDIES.

>>MURAD: HAVE A FLASHLIGHT AND BATTERIES.

>>LORENE: YOU ARE GOOD, MAYBE EVEN A PORTABLE RADIO.

>>BOBBI: BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW.

>>MURAD: YOU NEVER YOU, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT.

TO-GO-BAGS AREN'T A NEW THING AS YOU SAID.

>>BOBBI: NO.

>>MURAD: WE ALL LIVED IN LOS ANGELES AT ONE TIME SO WE ALL HAD THEM.

>>LORENE: YEAH, ME, TOO.

>>MURAD: THE EAST COAST EVERYONE HAS THEM ON THE EAST COAST BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANES.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>MURAD: SO, IT'S NOT A NEW THING BUT IT IS A NEW THING TO SANTA FE AND NORTHERN NEW MEXICO.

>>LORENE: YEAH WE HAVE GOT NO NATURAL DISASTERS EXCEPT FOR FOREST FIRES.

BUT ALSO I WANT TO PUT IN A BID FOR WATER A LOT OF WATER.

>>BOBBI: YES.

>>LORENE: A GALLON A DAY PERPERSON OR PER ANIMAL.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF FOOD THAT YOU CAN BUY THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REFRIGERATED OR COOKED.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE ON POWER BARS ALONE.

>>MURAD: RIGHT.

>>LORENE: OR NUTS.

YOU KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF FOOD THAT YOU CAN HAVE AND AGAIN REFRESH THEM EVERY THREE MONTHS OR SO.

>>BOBBI: AND THE ONLY REASON IS I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU ARE EVACUATING, YOU ARE ON THE ROAD AND YOU EVENTUALLY GET TO SNACKS IF YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF SANTA FE AND YOU WILL GET TO SANTA FE AND THERE ARE RESTAURANTS.

BUT AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH EVACUATIONS WITH THE HURRICANES, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STUCK IN TRAFFIC FOR EIGHT, 10, 12 HOURS AND YOU NEED TO HAVE FOOD AND WATER IN THE CAR WITH YOU, EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL BE GETTING TO A DESTINATION WHERE EVERYTHING IS AVAILABLE, IN TRANSIT YOU MAY NOT BE.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK PEOPLE FORGET AND WE SEE IT WHEN THEY HAVE TO EVACUATE FROM A HURRICANE AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO USE THE SAME THINKING HERE THAT GETTING AWAY FROM WHEN THEY WERE EVACUATED FROM LOS ALAMOS, THERE IS A BACK WAY BUT I THINK PART OF THAT WAS CLOSED.

THE FRONT WAY, THERE IS ONE ROAD, WELL WHEN YOU HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF THOUSAND PEOPLE TRYING TO GET DOWN THE ONE ROAD IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME.

>>MURAD: YES.

>>BOBBI: AND YOU NEED FOOD AND WATER.

>>LORENE: THERE WAS A BACKUP ON I-95 ON THE EAST COAST THAT WAS LIKE 10 HOURS AND THERE WAS A BAKERY TRUCK.

>>BOBBI: YES.

>>LORENE: REMEMBER THAT, THEY WENT FROM CAR TO CAR GIVING EVERYONE BAKED GOODS UNTIL THEY RAN OUT.

IT WAS JUST A LOVELY, LIKE YOU SAY, PEOPLE REALLY STEP UP IN TIMES OF EMERGENCY.

>>MURAD: RIGHT.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO SCARE PEOPLE, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE THINKING NOW AND THIS IS I THINK THIS IS WHY YOU INVITED US HERE TO REALLY PREPARE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE PREPARED.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW.

FOR US, OUR DAILY LIFE IN WORKING IN ANIMAL WELFARE, HAS LITERALLY CHANGED EVERY SINGLE DAY IN THE PAST THREE WEEKS.

>>BOBBI: ABSOLUTELY.

>>MURAD: BUT PREPARE NOW BECAUSE BY THE TIME THEY TELL YOU "READY," "SET" OR "GO", IT IS TOO LATE.

>>BOBBI: YES.

>>MURAD: SO YOU HAVE GOT TO PREPARE TODAY.

>>BOBBI: AND THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF FIRE SEASON.

>>MURAD: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: SO WE VERY WELL COULD BE FACING ANOTHER ONE THIS YEAR.

I HATE TO SAY IT BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BECAUSE HERE WE ARE IN AN EXTREME DROUGHT STILL AND THEN WE WILL GET THE SUMMER STORMS AND THE LIGHTNING STRIKES.

SO RIGHT NOW, IT COULD BE MAN-MADE BUT DOWN THE ROAD, IT COULD BE NATURAL, NATURALLY OCCURRING FIRES AND WE COULD BE FACING THE EXACT SAME THING.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: THIS IS NOT A ONE-TIME EVENT.

SO HAVING ALL OF THIS IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, I THINK WILL MAKE IT ONE STEP EASIER FOR DEALING WITH THE NEXT EMERGENCY.

>>LORENE: AND IT IS ACTUALLY A GIFT YOU CAN GIVE YOURSELF AND YOUR PETS TO HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT.

NOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE ENJOYED YOUR CONVERSATION I WANT TO TELL THEM WHEN YOUR SHOW IS ON BECAUSE YOU ARE ON THE RADIO ON KTRC IN SANTA FE, SATURDAY MORNINGS AND IT IS CALLED.

>>MURAD: PET CHAT WITH MURAD AND BOBBI.

>>BOBBI: YUP.

>>MURAD: EVERY SATURDAY MORNING AT 9 AM AND IT REPEATS ON SUNDAYS AT 3 PM BUT YOU CAN CATCH A PREVIOUS EPISODES ANY TIME-OF-DAY, 24/7 AND THAT'S AT SANTAFE.COM >>LORENE: YEAH.

GOOD.

>>BOBBI: SO WE ARE ALWAYS STREAMING AND PODCASTING AS WE SAY ON OUR TAGLINE AND I AM FROM AUSTRALIA AND SOME OF MY FRIENDS I HAVE TURNED THEM ON TO IT AND THEY HAVE ACTUALLY LISTENED DOWN THERE.

SO WE CAN SAY THAT WE ARE WORLDWIDE.

>>LORENE: YES.

>>MURAD: YES AND WE HAVE TO THANK YOU BECAUSE WE WERE ON YOUR SHOW TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME.

>>LORENE: IT WAS MAGIC.

>>MURAD: YEAH AND YOU EVEN SAY, YOU GUYS SHOULD DO A SHOW TOGETHER.

AND THEN BOOM, NOW WE HAVE A SHOW TOGETHER.

>>LORENE: THANK YOU.

>>MURAD: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: YEAH AND REALLY ENJOY DOING IT AND BRINGING INFORMATION FOR ALL ANIMALS AND THEIR HUMAN CARETAKERS.

>>LORENE: YES.

WELL I AM SURE YOU GIVE ALL THIS INFORMATION TOO ON YOUR SHOW BECAUSE IT IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

>>MURAD: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: YES.

>>LORENE: FOR OWNERS.

WE HAVE TWO MINUTES LEFT, GIVE US A LITTLE SUMMARY OF WHAT YOU NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE TO-GO-BAG.

>>MURAD: I WOULD SAY HAVE A TO-GO-BAG, HAVE IT READY FOR EVERY PET AND MAKE SURE FOR THE PET'S NEEDS.

>>LORENE: IN OTHER WORDS, NOT THE FOOD THEY HATE.

>>MURAD: RIGHT.

>>BOBBI: YES.

>>MURAD: AND IF YOU ARE CARRYING CANNED FOOD, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A CAN OPENER.

>>BOBBI: CAN OPENER.

BECAUSE EVEN THE PULL TABS DON'T ALWAYS WORK.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>BOBBI: THEN YOU HAVE GOT YOURSELF A PROBLEM.

>>MURAD: PLAN IN ADVANCE.

KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING, SO SET UP RIGHT NOW, FIND YOUR NETWORK OF FRIENDS, FIND THE HOTEL THAT WILL ACCEPT YOU.

KNOW YOUR PLAN NOW AND NOT AFTER IT HAPPENS.

>>BOBBI: RIGHT.

AND VET RECORDS WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AND ANYBODY THAT HAS A SMART PHONE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE PHOTOS OR SCAN THEM AND SAVE THEM IN THE NOTES - NOT IN YOUR PHOTOS BECAUSE MOST PET OWNERS HAVE.

>>LORENE: TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND PHOTOS OF THEIR PETS, YEAH.

>>BOBBI: SO YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM LIKE IN THE NOTE SECTION SO YOU HAVE IT, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AT SANTA FE CATS THEY ARE ALL COMING IN BUT VERY FEW HAVE RECORDS.

WE HAVE TO HOPE THAT THEY ARE CURRENT ON SOME OF THE VACCINES, BUT WE HAVE GOT NO WAY OF KNOWING FOR SURE.

SO HAVING ALL OF THAT SAVED ON YOUR PHONE REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND MAKES IT EASIER ALONG WITH THOSE PHOTOS.

>>MURAD: YEAH.

>>LORENE: YEAH.

>>MURAD: LET'S REMIND EVERYBODY YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS.

SO IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, IF YOU NEED HELP FROM FOOD OR YOU JUST, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REACH OUT TO FELINES AND FRIENDS, REACH OUT TO THE SANTA FE ANIMAL SHELTER.

WE HAVE ON THE SANTA FE ANIMAL SHELTER'S WEBSITE WE HAVE TONS OF INFORMATION ON THERE, SO, CHECK IT OUT, YOU ARE NOT ALONE, WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU GUYS.

>>LORENE: BUT ALSO WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO IS TO DONATE TO THOSE FOOD STOCKS AND LITTER THAT YOU NEED.

>>BOBBI: YES.

>>LORENE: BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS IN THIS TOGETHER AND DO IT IN THE MEMORY OF FIDO AND FLUFFY OR YOU OWN BELOVED.

>>BOBBI: WE ARE POSTING ON SOCIAL MEDIA OUR NEEDS AND WE ARE GOING TO UPDATE OUR WEBSITE WITH THAT, BUT YES WE ALL DO NEED FOOD AND LITTER AND EVEN SOMETIMES MEDS IF THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF THE MEDICINE.

SO WE ARE PUTTING THAT ALL OUT THERE AND ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO HELP CAN GO THAT ROUTE.

>>MURAD: I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DONATE, DONATE LOCALLY, DONATE TO YOUR LOCAL SHELTER, YOUR LOCAL RESCUE.

THERE IS A LOT OF NATIONAL AGENCIES COMING IN, THE MONEY WON'T BE SEEN LOCALLY.

>>LORENE: WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OUR GUESTS TODAY ARE BOBBI HELLER OF FELINES AND FRIENDS NEW MEXICO AND MURAD KIRDAR WITH THE SANTA FE ANIMAL SHELTER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, THIS IS SUCH IMPORTANT INFORMATION >>MURAD: THANK YOU.

>>BOBBI: THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>>LORENE: IT'S A PLEASURE.

AND I AM LORENE MILLS AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU OUR AUDIENCE FOR BEING WITH US TODAY ON REPORT FROM SANTA FE .

REPORT FROM SANTA FE IS MADE POSSIBLE, IN PART, BY GRANTS FROM THE NEW MEXICO MUNICIPAL LEAGUE, A BETTER NEW MEXICO THROUGH BETTER CITIES AND FROM