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I'm Kevin mullen, Gretchen de Backer, Matt Killam.

it is the kickoff to our pre restaurant week celebration.

It's the real holiday.

It really is.

It's the restaurant week.

Eve.

Eve.

Eve.

Eve.

Eve.

Eve.

Got it.

Yep.

I think we might need a few more.

Eve's.

We're all.

If you're.

If you're watching this on YouTube or on, we can exhale 30.4 for the first time.

I think in the three years we've been doing this, we all full on match.

It's just straight gray.

Yeah.

Look, we even have the blue shirt on.

How about that?

Yes.

Yeah.

And we're also lint free.

That's right.

Yep.

Finally brought in a lint roller.

You're welcome grandma.

Oh.

You're welcome.

Got it.

Took care of it.

I don't want the complaints anymore.

I think we should continue to color coordinate.

I will be putting it in the spreadsheet.

Yeah.

So, on the show today, we've got an accessory like that, from Leadership Toledo, the organizers.

And I think Daniel Johnson might come on as well.

We'll see what.

We'll see what happens.

Organizers and beneficiaries of Restaurant Week.

And we're also going to have, a couple of other restaurant related folks.

Come on.

Yeah.

So we're doing this a week in advance.

Restaurant week starts March 2nd, runs till March 8th, and it will tell us all about it, but we're going to have some special sneak previews with some participating restaurants all week.

And we're hoping they're going to bring us and some food and snacks.

So that's another side benefit.

It is time for Anna to text everyone to make sure that they all know that we are expecting food to be fed.

Yeah.

Oh, we're going to put the food up on one of the shelves.

Yeah.

That's right.

Yeah, that sounds good.

It'll stay there forever.

Yeah.

You had mentioned something before the show started, so we keep all of our notes in a Google doc.

That Matt does not ever visit.

But you have struggled with typing one particular word.

Restaurant.

Gretchen.

Yeah, well, first of all, I'm a terrible typist anyway.

Period.

Like, I, I'm terrible at typos.

Thank God for whatever the heck I use now to read my emails.

I just am a terrible typist.

I can't do it.

I've never learned it.

I was too young when like, this is.

No, the computers are going to be like, this is.

But I still can't spell whether it's something you do know that typing and spelling are two different things.

Yes, I'm clear.

I'll say too young.

I want to know when she was a kid.

Yeah.

Computers didn't exist.

That's right.

A lot of words didn't exist.

Yeah.

That's true, that's right.

The languages learn to spell.

That's right.

She learned to spell by sketching pictures on the wall of her.

Right.

So, yeah, I get it.

So restaurant is there.

Is there a word that you struggle with?

Most of them.

But I do struggle with, chaos, which I know is probably a bit of a coincidence.

But restaurant is.

I'm a I'm second to that.

Yeah, it is almost always having to be correct.

And maintenance maintenance is hard to maintain.

And.

Yeah.

So I, you know, I say that, like, the way that my brain works, which is debatable, is that I'm always in like, I'm thinking about how the word sounds and I don't care about how it's spelled.

And so the number of times that I use the wrong there, because I'm just focused on the sound of it.

And so it's like, and I don't care because when I see it in a script, I can read it the right way.

How do you feel about people correcting your grammar via text?

So I don't know if you met my brother Matt.

Yes.

He corrects my grammar.

Yeah.

At every available opportunity.

I thought the text was it was a was a whole new world.

You don't have to use punctuation or grammar.

I agree, I'm with you 100%.

Yeah.

No, I'll never forgot who or whom.

Never going to know.

Mr.

PBS is rolling over your favorite.

Is there a mr., Mr.

and Mrs.. PBS?

All right.

Hey, when we come back, let's talk with Anna.

Tony, and we'll see if Danielle joins us as well.

At some point, we're going to make her come on the program.

We'll have to figure it out.

We're going to talk restaurant week, all things restaurant week this week, as we do the kickoff to the kickoff.

That's right.

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Welcome back into the 419.

We're talking all things restaurant week.

It's it's a major Monday edition of the 418.

And so we figured, why not kick off the week before restaurant week with the mayor of Restaurant Week?

Oh, the executive director of leadership Toledo, Anna Tony.

Oh my God.

And when you ran against Mayor Mickey's.

Talk to me about that.

Why the campaign gets so negative?

It's mostly since Mayor Job, right?

You know, I mean, I just needed them to commit to what type of cheese they were.

And you want it.

And they were just, you know, just to.

Yeah, they were all over.

And then they chose American cheese.

It's like, out of all the cheese, we got to come on.

We're pro-American here.

We just can't possibly lose any more funding.

So just look in that camera.

We couldn't love America more.

Yeah, just saying cheese.

Brought to you by trucks and probably beer or something.

I don't know what.

All right, so in a suit, in your day job, when you're not the mayor of restaurant, when you are the executive director of leadership Toledo, which I've written down.

Thank you.

So I don't so I don't forget that, It's early.

Yes.

Oh, yes.

Oh.

Any any words before we dive into what you actually do?

Like any words that you struggle with spelling?

Oh.

You know, I don't know, I don't know, yeah.

It's not.

I guess we should ask other people around you, if you may not realize that I am.

I mean, I heard you guys talk about restaurants with you.

Don't admit that I love you.

The rest of the rest of you runs.

I think you get it.

Oh.

Ron's like, oh, yeah.

Like with the right.

I'm going to get rusty Ron.

I'm going to get it correct all the time now because that's the way I do it.

Yeah, yeah.

As we're talking over each other, I can hear my mom's talks going through my phone.

Yeah.

Perfect.

My mom, you are also, former performer, right?

Yeah, yeah.

We've all gotten notes from our families about what's wrong with us.

Specifically about the show.

I mean, this we've been doing some things.

You should see a therapist.

Yeah, yeah, that was one of the notes.

Yeah.

So, you talk to us a little bit about your background, and we'll get to you today.

But you were, you have a theater kid?

Yes.

Yes, I was a total theater kid.

Toledo rep through and through.

I think Gretchen and I maybe shared the stage back in our youth earlier years.

And, Did you really perform together?

Yeah.

Christmas carol.

How about that?

What role?

I was the wench.

Oh.

I was just like, what child?

Chorus.

Children.

That's.

Give me the line and show it.

I'm so mad.

It was from Kevin.

And I mean, good one.

Kevin.

But yeah, so I actually, I did theater growing up, studied musical theater in college, and then moved to New York for a couple of years, realized that that wasn't really the thing for me, and that was totally fine.

And then I came back to Toledo and the former executive director of leadership Toledo was like, hey, you should go through this program to reacquaint yourself with Toledo as an adult.

Interesting.

And I was like, yeah, I love that.

And I just like, fell in love with the nonprofit world.

And it was really when the whole you will do better in Toledo, like Renaissance was happening.

And I was like, my husband and I were both really passionate about that.

And so it's worked out in data center.

When did you come back?

Oh, 2002.

Well, okay.

I think what what is so what is Leadership Toledo.

Yeah.

Yes.

Leadership Toledo is a nonprofit in town.

We've been around for over 40 years, and we offer community leadership programs.

And there we have, programing for adults, and we have programing for our high school students.

And it's really about through all of our programs, it's about helping people recognize Northwest Ohio as a special place to call home, which I feel like aligns quite lovely with what you guys are doing here at the 419 and show.

It's about highlighting the opportunities and the challenges and really helping people become community minded leaders.

I was just in court on Tuesday and the cohort was there watching.

Oh, judge.

All interesting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I was over federal court.

Yeah.

Me too.

Watching.

Oh, no, I was observing.

I was serving, I'm serving.

I'm related to the program itself.

I was also in federal court.

So how long does that does?

That is the program when people, what did want to do it?

Yeah.

So our cohorts run like an academic year.

So August through May, early June depending on how the calendar falls.

And then we do actually have a summer program as well, which is two and a half days called focus for one nine.

And that's kind of our signature program like condensed and a little like Fast and Furious.

And, it's really fun, especially if you're such a good book.

Have you guys down leadership Toledo?

I have not, I have not, I've been asked not to.

Okay.

By someone who's on, this show with us right now.

Yeah, I actually yes.

That's right.

Yeah.

I went by every leader.

I went through the program and felt like I knew Toledo.

Yeah.

But just went through because, like, it just felt like the trendy thing to do.

And I, I love it, like, I fell in love with the organization and the program.

I'm a huge fan of the signature, the adult program.

Obviously, I'm a fan of the youth program as well.

Yeah, I was just talking to somebody today, and I referenced Leadership Toledo because we were talking about, future leaders and talking about, you know, high school and college students and that they'll, you know, they're the leaders of our community of tomorrow.

And I said, you know, it's interesting, whenever I talk to the folks at Leadership Toledo about their youth leadership program, they don't call them the leaders of tomorrow.

They call them leaders of today.

Yep.

And it's really about helping these, especially these, high school students, like empowering them to understand they don't have to wait until tomorrow and they can make a difference now.

And, you know, their community is going to be different today than it is going to be in ten years.

But it's really, helping them find a find out what they care about and how they can, you know, make a difference with their skills and their talents in that in that area.

Okay.

So potentially an unfair question to put on the spot, but the definition of leadership to you is what?

Oh, you know, that is putting me on the spot here because what a job I know.

Yeah, I what a platform.

I think leadership is fighting for something that you believe in and working to get people around you to follow that, to bring it.

So, I mean, I would probably try to be a little bit more eloquent if I had ChatGPT with me.

Yeah.

I thought Gretchen was out ahead of that whole computer movement.

Yeah.

One of my favorite leadership quotes that I don't remember who said it, but is, leadership is getting other people to do what you want them to do because they want to do it.

And that there's a side of that that I really enjoy.

Yeah.

We're talking with Anna Tony, executive director of leadership Toledo, Ted Bundy's memoirs.

Yeah.

Might have been true.

Yeah.

The next week kicks off restaurant week.

Yes.

So excited.

What what is restaurant week?

Yes.

And how little do you sleep?

I'd rather not talk about it.

How little do you eat at home?

Yes.

Yeah.

Now that is.

Yeah.

So it is.

Restaurant Week Toledo is in its 16th year, which is wild.

Yeah.

16 years.

And it is one of our.

It is our largest fundraiser for our program, for our youth programs, which I should say our tuition free.

So we yes, we do not charge, students anything to go through that.

So, so yeah.

So restaurant week, it's a really fun way to come about and bring our community together around our local food scene, which we have an incredible local food scene.

And so we have partnered with 48 restaurants.

Oh my gosh.

Yes.

Yeah.

So when it started in 2010, I'm like doing the math in my head, you guys, in 2010, there were maybe 10 or 11 restaurants and now we're up to 48.

And so restaurants offer a special menu for the week and then, they give back a portion of the sales to support our tuition free programs.

Where can people find more information about Restaurant Week?

Restaurant Week toledo.com?

You can go there and we have all the restaurants listed, and you can filter by location.

You can filter by meal.

You can filter.

We actually are you're able to filter if you need like vegan options like so I know like that's really big and yeah and maps world it's so yeah.

Thank you.

And the unsung voices I have barely have enough energy to talk, because of my vegan diet.

But thank you for including, what does what does Restaurant Week look like for you?

Oh, my gosh.

A lot of a lot of hard work behind the scenes.

And that I'm going to give major props to Danielle Johnson for that.

Because she's in proximity to us.

No, I mean, she is just she is the backbone of Restaurant Week.

All right.

I'm just going to say she is the backbone of Restaurant Week Toledo.

We start planning in early November, and it's just a lot coordinating with 48 establishments and so trying to communicate with those jokers.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, we love all of our restaurant partners, but we also understand that they are running a business.

And so we use a Google that you use.

Well, we also use a Google doc.

Just I'm hearing about for the first time today.

Apparently it's great.

0003 years.

Oh yeah.

Well we also use a Google doc.

And this year I feel like the amount of tabs that we have at the bottom is too much.

It's intense.

It's intense.

Okay.

But yeah.

And so we also have a kickoff party that sold out in an hour this year.

Good for you.

So that will be, Thursday the 26.

Speaking of Tab, guess remember that came out I do I lucked out.

Yeah we have the bar.

Yeah.

Snacks.

Well yeah.

Snack.

So the cookie I yeah, I need a pathway for reserving a ticket before it's available.

Yeah.

Because every time those tickets come up I don't get you don't get that.

I have never been to the kickoff of Restaurant Week.

Have you, have you logged on when we tell you to.

No, I'm never like every year I'm like, I'm going to do this.

I'm just saying no.

We are very clear on when the tickets to work.

I know somebody wouldn't talk to you like that.

Member cheese.

That's true.

That's not the type that we've got here this morning.

But if you threw out like a hey, here's a leadership donate donor level to Leadership Toledo, and this gets you early okay.

All right to it okay, Danielle, take note, $500 for a ticket to the restaurant.

Me I'll put it on and I'll put it on and I'll put it on our Google doc.

Done.

You, you guys just very excitingly, moved into a new space.

Yeah.

Toledo, can you talk a little bit about that in the warehouse district?

Absolutely.

So we were housed inside, Trinity Episcopal Church since the start of Leadership Toledo.

And the way that came about was it was members of Trinity Episcopal Church that actually got the concept of Leadership Toledo up and moving.

And, we weren't affiliated with the church, but then the houses now rent free for over 40 years.

And yeah, yeah, I mean, free is good.

And the nonprofit was very good.

So then it got to a point where we were, you know, we were paying like a very normal, like, great deal fee to be a partner there.

But the conversation came about our board, like, maybe there's something reflective of who we are.

We wanted a sign outside, like branding and all of that.

And so I started looking in 2020.

So, as opposed to God's branding as opposed, well, like to go up to this nice job, like we're in the church, take the very small, creepy elevator up to the third floor and it will pass.

Yes.

So one stop shop.

So it was a long it was a long search for the right space.

And I wasn't going to just move for anything.

And then we ended up on Market Street, and it's been awesome.

It's a beautiful space.

It is a beautiful space, a very cool building right there adjacent to the farmers.

And to your point, it's fitting of who you are and what you're going to.

Congratulations.

They're definitely.

You ready to have some fun?

Yes.

It's now time for Gretchen myself.

Well, I'm like pace.

Yeah, let's try it again.

It's now time for Gretchen's wacky quiz, but I'm going to ask you for rapid fire questions.

Gretchen is asking for your favorite thing in or about Toledo.

Okay?

And Matt is going to ask you to describe Toledo in exactly nine words or so.

Okay, I got you, lady.

Okay.

Well, like, what do people like list words or do they say like a scent?

They list I I'm glad you watch the show.

Yeah.

Thanks for being a leader.

So you guys are so mean.

Which is we're actually into most of our game.

That's true.

Yeah.

You're our first best.

Sort of a big morning for us.

All right.

If you had to swap lives with someone for a week.

Who would it be.

Oh, swap lives for someone with.

Oh, for a week.

I'm going to go with Bruno Mars.

Yes.

Interesting.

Yeah.

He's bed like on my mind lately.

I'm going to ask me today.

Are you going to Detroit.

Yes.

Me too.

And so like I've been like kind of going down this rabbit hole and I'm like here for it.

He's good.

Right.

It's good to see you too.

Thanks for, what do you do with, you know.

Okay.

I care too much for you for that.

What do you do when you want to relax?

Either do, I can I can only give one answer.

Okay.

So I either like to exercise that, like, is the nice release here or.

Yesterday I came home and no one was home, and I laid on the couch and watch Netflix.

And for you, that's delightful.

That is to like, what hobby would you love to start?

Learn a new language.

Good.

You could be a world champion in any sport.

What would it be?

Ski jumping.

And you better get started.

Winter Olympics sat on those knees to do it I, we were.

What do we watch something.

God it it was, it was the start of the Olympics.

We watched out of the Eagles.

Don't bury the lead.

Spoiler alert.

Is that the Eagle a good movie.

It is a good movie.

At the end, Jon Snow kills him.

Okay, what, what is the number one your most favorite thing?

Or what you consider to be the best thing about Toledo?

Okay, so for me personally, I'm going to say it's the fact that I live in South Toledo and I live by the river, and I love being by the river.

Great.

All right, nine things.

Okay.

You already said River, so I want to put that.

Yes.

Number one, we're off and running.

Perfect.

We need more.

Okay.

The food scene.

Resilient.

Resilient?

Yes.

Good on your on.

Good job.

Okay.

Food scene cuisine is two words.

And so we're off.

You're doing great.

Metropark departs.

And I'm not just saying that because of you your that saying it in spite of him.

That's right.

Yeah.

Good.

Community focus.

Community focus.

Two words.

You got two left.

You're crushing this art centered arts center.

I know that's what you're put that when you finish strong.

Yeah.

And, the Toledo Zoo does.

Okay.

I'm not writing that, so I'm here.

You better punch twice.

Talk to us about your team at Leadership Toledo.

Obviously, you mentioned Danielle, but I know you've got an army of people behind both on staff and, board and volunteers.

Yeah.

So we definitely rely on a lot of our, like, volunteers in terms of helping, like in community organizations to host us and be presenters and all of that.

But I've got an awesome team.

There's five of us.

And so, Danielle, like I said, is the backbone of all things Restaurant Week Toledo.

She is your go to gal for that.

And then I've got to, we have two program directors, Nicole Sastre, who has been on this show, and I did listen, and you should come this is reading.

And then, so she runs our youth programs, and then we have Erica michaelis, who is in charge of our adult program.

And then we have a new staff member, McKenzie Bryant, who is helping with, like, our marketing communications, great social media, all that stuff.

And Tony, the executive director of Leadership Toledo, thank you for being here.

Restaurant Week Toledo is March 2nd through the eighth.

Where can people get more information?

Restaurant Week toledo.com menus are going live.

You can go out there and check out all the restaurants menus, all the locations, all that good stuff, and sign up for the digital passport.

They want more information on Leadership Toledo.

Where do they find Leadership toledo.org.

Where do vegans go for leadership?

Please information vegan toledo.org vegan slash vegan backslash vegan.

If you've got the energy to type it in I want vegan Toledo.

That's right.

Yeah that's right.

Yeah.

All right.

When we come back, we're going to continue our restaurant week.

Kick off.

Kick off with deets.

Barbecue zone.

Trevor Dieter, it's the 419.

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Welcome back into the 419.

It's a restaurant Week kickoff.

Kickoff edition.

Mayor.

Monday we just wrapped up our conversation with the mayor of Restaurant Week and a Tony from Leadership Toledo.

We talked about all things vegan that are options on the menu for Restaurant Week, and we decided to then go to the exact opposite of that and welcome my good friend from deets Barbecue Trevor, the mayor of ribs.

Thank you.

The mayor of ribs, the man I think is what we're going to, thank you for coming in.

About how long has this barbecue been around?

16 years.

How about that?

Oh, I didn't know that.

Congratulations.

So it doesn't think we're hanging with leadership.

Toledo's, timeline.

Yeah, yeah.

Amazing.

You got, when the end of the mayor Mick Cheese in that campaign, were you devastated?

Yeah, I was, yeah, he was a good man.

It's tough.

Yeah, absolutely.

Two locations we do?

Yep.

Mommy.

Covenant Street and Oregon on Navarre.

And then you've got food trucks galore.

Three food trucks.

Yep, yep.

And catering.

Catering operation.

You got it.

It's hard to concentrate on questions as the smell of ribs are wafting over the.

Yeah.

What?

The desk.

What did I start to pass?

Yeah.

Please.

Let's just derail this interview as quickly as possible.

And we did have some leftover Valentine's Day plates that we're using, which are lips.

I'm just gonna start with one.

You guys tell me if we want more, okay?

Okay.

The answer is yes.

So for our radio listeners, we're getting served some delicious ribs from Trevor, from Dietz.

These are our Saint Louis style ribs.

What makes something Saint Louis style?

So that's actually the cut.

It's, starts as a whole spare rib, and then it's trimmed of the, rib tips and some, Danielle.

Come on it.

Danielle.

Come in.

We're gonna have Danielle from Toledo join us as well.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

The vice mayor can't not you slide right in between Matt and Gretchen not touch that?

Yeah, there we go.

As far as you know, it's okay.

Okay.

So sorry.

You were saying this starts out as a full spare.

They're trimmed.

And we smoke them over a little bit of cherry and oak.

Grill them with a little bit of our sweet barbecue sauce, and that's it?

No, no.

Crazy, like injections or marinades or anything like that.

It's just kind of simple, good quality meat.

Absolutely.

Oh, this is delicious.

I mean, now, what about the sauce?

So this is our sweet barbecue sauce.

It's our own sauce.

It's, Honey barbecue base.

A little bit of vinegar.

Got a little bit of a zip to it, but more sweet than time.

We also have a spicy barbecue, which is real good and bold, but not super hot.

If you are a fan of spicy, is this the most popular one?

Either the sweet or literally the mixed, which is self-explanatory.

We just mix the two together and it's like a medium.

So what is your menu going to be restaurant Week?

So we have ribs for two, which is a rib dinner for two people.

For ribs, two sides, two cornbread.

We're featuring our a new steak burger that we just launched this last year.

Locally sourced beef from Elmore.

Really good half pound grilled patty, toasted buttery bun, burger sauce.

Sounds good.

You know, Trevor, if you had to pick up one side for barbecue, one side is your favorite side.

Oh, man, they're mac and cheese.

I don't help them.

Yeah, I love Mac, but, like, I really love trying other barbecue too.

So I want to go with something we don't have.

Like maybe like cream corn casserole.

Cream corn casserole.

Killer.

Total game changer.

That's a killer.

Trevor talked to me about getting into this line of work.

You were always at the grill with your dad and or mom or, they were never at the grill.

And you went to.

You absolutely nailed it.

So as a as a child, my dad and I were grilling, like, at 7 a.m.

in an apartment.

Yeah, like pissing off the neighbors, and I hated it.

Yeah.

Would you like to say some of their names into the camera?

Right.

Yeah.

No.

And then, so my childhood was learning how to cook by force.

You need to learn to cook for the family and then when I went to college, it was the coolest thing ever, because I knew how to grocery shop and cook and do all that.

So can you grill with gas or must have charcoal?

I've got both.

Okay.

Yeah.

I love gas.

If it's going too quick and in a hurry and just want to sear off some steaks or burgers.

Danielle taught me about, Do you cook?

Are you a cook?

You got to step in because you're not.

Might, No.

I used to be like, I don't have time for that.

She goes.

She plans restaurant week instead, I do.

Yeah, I get to hang out with Trevor, and he gives me food.

Let's go.

Love it.

Yes.

Do you have a favorite barbecue side?

I like mac and cheese.

Mac and cheese.

All right.

Coleslaw over here.

We asked for just one.

And you're not mine.

So another.

I unlocked an absolute life hack this past year.

This is not.

This is not Thanksgiving.

Yeah.

No.

Yeah, it's the federal court.

No story.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

So, like, my pride, the last few years is that I have made the turkey for Thanksgiving.

And this year, we were busy and it was like we gotta do something different.

And so we got the turkey from Dietz.

Oh my gosh.

And I am not even upset at how happy everyone was.

Yeah.

They were like they realize how bad.

Yes.

Yeah, they really did.

But I mean it's so, so amazing, so easy.

How many do you do for Thanksgiving?

We average like 130, 250 families Thanksgiving Day.

So, with all the signs and everything.

Yeah.

So we offer actual Thanksgiving Day pick up between 1 and 2 p.m., and it's hot and ready to go.

So if you're like Kevin just said, if you're in a pinch, or if you just don't want to do anything, it's, preorder it, you can pick it up that day.

We offer just hams or turkeys, but then we also offer a family meal with sides and the families that pick ham.

You judge them.

No, I can't, I take I'm taking those arms of currency for any reason.

My man.

Yeah.

This is the first one.

Yeah.

Yes.

So?

So Trevor and I are good friends here.

And you are?

Absolutely.

He would never say that.

Agreed.

I also know he's incredibly modest, so he's going to be real upset about that.

The next line of questioning.

But Thanksgiving.

So when you say how many turkeys you put out, that was the number of turkeys that are sold.

Sure.

I mean, let's talk about the number of turkeys that actually go out through your through your operation around Thanksgiving, because you are just incredibly generous to this community.

Sir, I appreciate that.

I yeah.

Thanks.

Like the color of this plate.

Probably, but no, we, we try to help anywhere we can.

And, I think what Kevin's referring to is a couple different opportunities.

This year.

And the last couple, we did a, Thanksgiving feed with, Oh, Henry's barbecue, another barbecue guy in town, and probably a dozen other local, restaurants that, chipped in to do a big community feed.

I think this year it was like 1500 meals, down at, I can't remember the building now.

But, we we had a downtown, and, you know, it's an open feed for whoever wanted to come.

No.

No questions asked, no qualifications.

Just come get a meal.

It was pretty cool thing to do.

And then with your group, Kevin, you know, helping to source, you know, some turkeys for sure.

Wonderful restaurants in our community are so generous with their, with their with their time, with their donations.

Why did you want to participate in Restaurant Week Toledo?

Man, it's I think so.

I don't remember, listening to talk about it.

I don't remember if no one got talking.

No, no, I remember listening, but I don't remember if we were partaking in the 2010 year, because that was our first year in business.

But I know we at least did the following.

So we've been doing it since basically at the beginning and just hearing the message of what leadership Toledo stands for and what they do.

And then being a restaurant and restaurant week was kind of a no brainer for us.

So tell us a little bit about your family, Trevor.

Do you do you tell us about your family in Toledo?

Sure.

So, yeah.

My, I'm married to, Samantha.

She is a nurse practitioner, locally, has been in health care for about 15 years now.

She started out in, behavioral health, and I think that's how she learned to deal with me.

So she has been training wildly out kick discovery.

Yeah, yeah.

She, is one of those, like, at the end of the day when I'm just dead and ready to go to bed, and I think I worked my butt off that day.

She's still going until one in the morning.

So we've got two, beautiful daughters, two and four year old.

So, Lyric and Lemon.

Love it.

Love those names.

Yeah.

Keep us crazy busy.

Well, you brought up, sort of my usual, line of questioning about downtime.

Right.

And, just, articulated that she had a rare moment by herself in an empty house and decided to sit on the couch and watch Netflix.

I related to that strong talk to me about suppression and say, like, DoorDash, something, you know, like a large pizza and just crush it.

Sure.

That would be what I would add to that.

Yeah, but that's how easy, boy.

Silence.

You know, off the feet.

Yeah.

Offer me something.

But the move is pointless because I'm going to snooze in like, 20 minutes.

What's what's a typical day look like for you as as a restaurant owner?

Man, it's so different the past couple of years.

And that is all attributed to we have an amazing leadership team.

No pun on the leadership here, but we have retained a great, upper management group that allows me to be a lot more flexible now.

But it starts basically with checking in with all of our managers, getting a lay the land for what's going on that day, figuring out what fires need to be put out or what equipment might have broken, or what orders going out that might need some help.

Vendor meetings, stuff like that.

A lot of, meeting with staff and learning about everybody's lives and seeing how we can be involved in them.

And it's a lot less making sandwiches than it used to be.

Do you feel good about where you guys are right now with your two locations?

Are you looking to.

Yeah, that's a great question.

We so we had five and started downsizing right in Covid as a lot of people did a couple of them because of Covid, just did its thing.

And then a couple of them shortly after, lease rates went crazy.

The cost of doing business combined with that went crazy.

And it just so smart for us to close a couple up.

But we feel good about where we're at now.

We've had a good year to start.

And our two stars that we have are are good, healthy and we just I've said to a lot of people, we just want to have a boring beer.

Yes, yes.

No, no pandemic, nothing.

No, no, not across the street.

Like really with, you know, what happened this year or nothing, just, you know, talk to me about an if this represents, letting people too far behind the curtain, we can cut it immediately and edit it out.

But the key.

Okay, The key to making a good pizza, I've been told are good sources.

You have to pick the right tomato.

What is the what is the core decision or ingredient for making good barbecue?

I think just starting with a good base.

So good meat, like, whatever you're using.

And I'll use the example of, like, how prices have gone crazy, right now.

We haven't decided to go for a lesser grade product.

You know, a lot of people on that throne hate it.

Anybody.

But a lot of people have taken that as an opportunity to be able to still make more or retain profits in their business by let's cut the quality or portions way down.

So we start with just really good quality meat that we've had the same product for the whole time, basically.

And then, you know, we cook it low and slow and season it well.

And now nothing crazy.

You couldn't have walked out of, the gates and found this immediately.

Did it.

Was it a process or.

It still is.

Yeah.

That's a yeah.

What's your position on smoked meat and or smoking things.

Do you guys do that separately.

And then the source is it.

That's a whole different art right.

Sure.

So, all of our barbecued meats are cooked over wood, so it's a wood fuel, actual logs.

And then from there, nothing is cooked in source to your point, we add, as the customer orders.

So we based it on charred on a grill to set it in.

So if people don't prefer barbecue sauce, that's an option that they want a little bit.

That's an option.

If they want it smoked, we can do that too.

I don't love barbecue sauce.

I do love yours.

But.

And I get your ribs, ribs once a month and I get them without sauce because I just like, as you prepare them, you know.

All right.

It's now time for questions.

Why I can't quit.

I'm gonna ask for rapid fire questions.

Gretchen.

Asking for your favorite thing in or about Toledo.

And then that's going to make you describe Toledo in exactly nine words.

He's right.

I can tell he's ready.

Yeah.

All right.

No idea about this.

That is not true at all.

Don't throw me under the bus like that.

Name a kid's TV show that you secretly like.

Bluey.

I love it, I love actually.

Yeah, yeah, it's one of the best things, baby.

Delicious.

Yeah.

When I had to leave for work today, my daughter always asks me, can you put on a show?

And that's like the way of her being distracted so my wife can get ready.

Yeah, and she wants X, Y and Z. And I was just throw blue.

They say the same thing.

That it's hard for you to leave my my three year old.

It's, law and order special victims.

You like to drink?

Joke.

My kids are 12, ten and eight.

And to this day, when it's late, you know, it's not quite time.

We don't have time for a full TV show or movie or your love.

That's right.

We'll give them like.

It's like.

All right, let's put on Bluey and you get to pick one little micro episode, and it is so good.

So, what's one thing that people do that you can't st praise?

No.

Okay.

I hate being in a public setting, and people are intentionally, like, walking slow in the right of way.

Okay?

Like either walking, driving, biking.

We'll just move over.

Yeah.

Like, if it's like the main path in the airport and you're, like, dead center.

Just what about the people that stand on that moving thing?

And they are.

They're standing in the air.

Yeah.

That's tough.

Move over.

Yeah, yeah I like the moving thing to like yeah.

Really get further.

Yeah I lay down on it.

If you could live anywhere in the world, where would you live?

Oh, that's so tough.

I don't know if I could answer that.

Northern Michigan, I mean, what's the best piece of you might change that?

But I love Northern Michigan.

What's the best piece of advice you've ever been given?

Oh, no.

Don't take no for an answer I like.

It's good to know.

What's your number one most favorite, or what you consider to be the best thing about the city of Toledo or the region?

I would say opportunity, I think, and that kind of relates to the no thing.

So with deeds, we train our staff and we're all it's kind of a thing that like, we don't say no sometimes to our detriment.

But, Toledo has given us opportunity for 16 years and we've messed it up 15 of those 16 years and we're still here.

So, yeah, I heard you say Metroparks.

Anyway, no, that was one of my nine.

Yeah.

That's right.

Well, to get to it, nine words, but you and me, let's do it.

Diverse.

Diverse.

Love it.

Accepting.

Accepting.

Great.

Hungry, hungry in multiple ways.

Yep.

We'll give it to you for hungry than two words.

You got that?

Boom.

Yeah.

Community.

You said love it.

Community.

You're almost home for three.

Full of four.

Opportunity.

Opportunity.

One last finish.

I wasn't going to snap and say full of potential.

Oh that's cool.

Yeah.

One.

Let's finish strong.

The zoo.

Because I knew that pissed you off.

That's awesome.

I love the zoo.

They got the meat eater.

Loves the zoo.

Yeah.

In that I, I absolutely I, I love you, man.

Thank you.

Thank you for everything.

You're a delight when when you said, stop calling me.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, you do say it's the opposite.

I always say, don't not call me.

I'll tell you know if I can't.

But yeah, but I don't, but I the number of times that I've called you and said I've got a crazy idea.

And before I even tell you what it is you say I'm in it.

I appreciate that.

So thank you.

And I hope you know that that goes both ways.

So Trevor Dieter with Dietz barbecue restaurant Week Toledo kicks off next week.

You guys are doing your ribs for two.

The rib dinner.

Our steak burger, our big chop salad.

And then, the Polish picnic, I think we're calling it.

It's a Polish sausage sandwich with, sides and cornbread.

Great.

Really good.

Yeah.

Love it.

Thanks, Trevor.

All right, when we come back.

Yes.

Who do we got?

Michelle Dooney.

I'm so excited.

I'm such a huge fan of Michelle, and she doesn't even know who I am.

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Welcome back into the 419, a mayor Monday edition.

We decided to do something a little bit different as it's the week before restaurant week.

So I wanted to give you a taste of what you can see at Restaurant Week.

We just wrapped up with Trevor Dieter from Dietz Barbecue, and now we're pleased to be joined by someone I am so excited to meet because I'm such a huge fan.

Michelle doing cheese eating it is your, online moniker.

I guess we could say the slogan, although for some reason something that's become a thing is Mayo Gang.

I don't know if you've seen that.

No, I, I only know it from you for some reason.

Because I always like to eat French fries with mayo.

It's become like this kind of slogan for people in you that are, yeah, you either are into Mayo or you aren't with fries, but I always encourage people to try it before you know it's good.

Yeah.

What?

What is.

She's eating it.

I just in February of actually last year I was downtown Toledo and I had a Smashburger.

But I've been watching, you know, viral TikToks and they were right then the one that I had was about two inches.

So I'm like, well, maybe there's a better one.

So I went on to Reddit of Detroit.

I said, well, this is a bigger city.

Let me try it out.

And I asked for Smashburger recommendations, 40 different places later that people told me to go to, and I got through about 20 of them.

You did not, I did, and just trying to find the best Smashburger and then because the algorithm pushed me until I took some from Toledo, suddenly people were saying, oh, try this Toledo place, try this.

And I'm like, they don't know I'm from Toledo.

Yeah.

So I said, okay, I'll give Toledo another chance and try it.

And then I found amazing food, amazing restaurants, places that are just so hidden because they don't have the social media, the reached that.

You know what Toledo is known for?

Change diners and fast food.

So were you doing the videos?

Were you when you were going to Detroit or did you start it?

What you're about to do is started as a thing.

Just for my friends to kind of like, try to encourage them to come with me.

Yeah.

Maybe if I show them, they'll be willing to drive an hour and 20 minutes for a burger with me.

And a couple times people would come with me, and then it just became a thing where I'm like, well, if I put it public, you know, if someone sees it, what's the worst?

And people just so I kind of latched on to it and started following.

And restaurants from up in Detroit would say, we've got the best Smashburger.

And I'm like, all right, I'll try it out.

And some were amazing and some were just out of this world type of burgers.

Yeah.

How are you choosing the places that you're going to now?

Now it's, it's always been local for me.

So now I just like to do a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

I try to go to places that are, you know, maybe some Thai place that someone hasn't heard of.

There's a place in Northwood, Ohio, you know, not far out of Toledo called Roy at.

And it's a Thai place that a lot of people haven't heard about.

We always talk about being Cut Kitchen or Rose Thai.

And I'm like, well, there's all these other, you know, places to try to.

And then I always like, try to throw in some American kind of food.

Tried diners.

I take suggestions from people as well, and sometimes I'm behind because there's so many suggestions.

Yeah, there's so many places in Toledo that I think people don't realize exist.

And I kind of feel like I'm the, the test subject for some people here.

I think they're giving me a name of a place to go to that they want to see me inside first.

Yeah.

Beforehand.

I'm like, okay, I'll try that for you.

Tell us a little bit about yourself.

How, how did you how did you get to today?

Are you from Toledo?

From Toledo.

Born here, raised here.

Loved it here.

Still loving it here and have always enjoyed what Toledo has to offer.

It's just it's a reasonably priced city to live in.

You know, I still go out and check out Chicago and Pittsburgh, and I hear people complain about parking and stuff, and I'm like, let me tell you, we haven't really, really good here, you know?

So like, even if you have to like, just this week, I was, at Registry Bistro and, you know, now you have to pay parking, and I think it's until 6:00, and I'm thinking, oh, how much is this going to cost me?

No, it's a dollar an hour.

I'm like, okay, we're fine, we're fine.

Yeah, yeah.

So so it's not bad compared to we're talking restaurant week obviously kicks off next Monday.

Yes.

You by nature of what you do, you're visiting new places you've never been to before.

Yeah.

No that's not the norm.

Right?

We we fall into our usual staples, but Restaurant Week is an opportunity to kind of branch out.

What's the commercial you'd have for why somebody should try something new next week.

Get out of your comfort zone.

This is the week to not only enjoy something you haven't tried, but also get it for a good, reasonable price so you don't feel like if it's not your favorite thing and I'm telling you, it's going to be your favorite t because there's so many secret, amazing restaurants in Toledo, you're you're going to have great food.

It's going to be at a great deal.

You're going to have new favorites.

You can have a place that you can ask your friends to come to and meet you out at, and, it's just going to start a new lifestyle for you.

And I think you're now that you've become one of the food icons locally, people ask you for places to go all the time you eat, I'm sure all the time.

I do feel a little pressure.

You know, like.

And my, my whole thing has always been keep it positive.

And, you know, people have said to me, you know, why don't you say if you don't like something?

And I'm like, well, it doesn't need to be put out there publicly.

If I don't like something, I shelve it.

I keep it to myself.

I'm here to tell you what I really liked and what I t you definitely should try out.

And not only that, but there's some restaurants that you go to and you have to look at it.

You know, maybe this is a great place for a great deal.

Maybe this is a place where you're going to think about that meal and come back a week later.

There's always something positive to say about our local restaurants with you.

We've got a handful of folks around the community that do these, you know, restaurant reviews, rating foods like that.

And in the last couple of months, it's gotten a little busy.

It well, it's been a controversial it's got a little chippy to write about up and mostly around the negative reviews.

And I guess like my question is like, what makes you qualified to have a to have an opinion on these restaurants?

You just have to love food.

Honestly.

You just have to enjoy what you're doing, enjoy sharing, enjoy community and enjoy people.

And I think that's all.

I feel like there is enough room for everybody to grab a camera.

It's going to get expensive sometimes if you do 2 or 3 restaurants in a day, like I sometimes do, but you're going to have the best time, you're going to discover new things.

What I like about your videos is that you're doing it in the restaurant.

Yes, by and large.

So like some of these other reviewers will take it to go and they'll eat in the car, which is totally different sort of setting.

What are you finding when you're in the restaurant doing the videos then?

Do people wonder what you're doing?

Is that such a commonplace thing that no one even noticed something that if anybody wants to start doing this, you can not be shy about it.

There are still times where, you know, I'm like trying to like, hide that I have the camera up and people are sometimes giving different looks, and the only thing I can tell myself is you're doing this for a good reason.

Get over your fear of it.

Don't be shy about it.

It's something that's good for local restaurants.

So dining out as a kid, which is a big deal.

Did you guys cook at home and have big family?

You know, those are all.

My mother was a chef and a cook and she made everything she was.

She is still she's a great baker.

She's an amazing cook.

And, I think what happened was it was very, very, very special to go out to eat.

So for me as well, it kind of is that sort of thing where I think for, you know, anybody in the community, maybe this is not something that you can afford to do every day, every weekend, but I will always try to find something that people can enjoy every now and then and treat yourself.

Treating yourself is so important to your mental health.

Let's think of three categories and you tell me the most.

The recent restaurants that you reviewed that you would say, recommend for a family?

Sure.

For like a group of friends and then for a date night.

Oh, okay.

Well, that that's, and maybe they're the same place.

Yeah, yeah.

Honestly, I think date night would be Calvino's.

It's.

I know everybody's like, oh, I don't want to take someone out on a first date, and then it's going to be so expensive.

Kelvins is really, really well priced.

You can get, Stromboli, I think a mini, which is still pretty big for about $11.

So, you know, if it's a first date or even to someone that you've been with for a while, you can save your money and enjoy it.

It's got nice lighting.

They have a new kind of wine area, which is a great selection of wine, great selections of wines, and they make that that good bread that comes out to it first, and that tomato basil bread as well.

Yes, yes.

So that would be a great place.

I mean, I would do that as you could do that for just about everything.

I think another fun place for a date night, which is part of Restaurant Week is Rosario's.

Rosario's pronounce that wrong.

I was Perrysburg in Perrysburg.

I was just with Arias on third.

I will say you have to really drive to figure it out because I dress weird three times you.

But once you get there, it is worth it.

The food there just blew my mind.

Really amazing.

If you like lamb chops or lamb chops, do not have do not miss them.

That would be a great place as well for a date night.

Family wise.

Most place in, Rockford, Ohio.

It's just a small kind of dive bar.

Nothing too crazy about it, but there's Smashburger.

I think it's the best one in Toledo right now.

What's it called now?

I'm writing it down.

Momo's notes.

If you ever again I have, I have not.

They're gonna get so mad at me because I've already heard from the servers there that that's all they make.

Now, after my video, I thought about them, but they really do have one of the best smash burgers it has, like a, pepper do kind of sauce that comes with that.

Yum.

Almost tastes like, cheesesteak meets, Smashburger.

Very good.

Yeah.

And what about for, like, a group of friends?

Group of friends?

Oh, gosh.

There's so many places.

There's so much.

And they're savages.

So.

Yeah.

Where's the best?

Where's the cleanest dumpster you've driven by?

I really love right now.

And they're also part of Restaurant Week.

I love Registry Bistro and she is doing this amazing thing right now.

Chef Erika Rath called Golden Hour this is another affordability thing between 4 and 6.

She is doing like kind of like nibbles and nachos.

But it's a lot of food.

And the plates average from about 9 to $15.

From what I've seen this week, I had my first oyster, I'm telling you, if you've never had seafood, you have about a week.

Well, it changes the menu changes in February and then it'll be a brand new menu.

You get to stamp a passport, amazing food, and then the rest of the food is great in their car base.

Yeah, yeah.

Her carbonara.

When you go to a restaurant to do a review, what what does your order look like?

Because I feel like when I'm watching this, like you're not eating just one meal.

No.

And it's getting expensive.

New jobs.

Are you working to support this review?

At one time, I was working four different jobs to do this.

You know, because I'm paying for my food.

Yeah.

So I was DoorDash and Dash.

Yeah.

And it was interesting because I brought food to someone's door.

This is toward maybe like toward the beginning when I was starting to get more notice in Toledo and someone said, hey, you're that.

You're that girl.

I was like, yes, I take I take no.

Yeah.

Ownership of what?

I've actually taken three bites of your food.

Yeah.

I'm like, oh, this is good, you're good, you're good.

Well hold on, let me feel the bag again for you.

All right.

It's now time for Gretchen's wacky quiz.

Are you ready for this?

I'm not ready for this.

But there's the spirit.

All right, I'm gonna ask you for rapid fire questions.

Gretchen's asking for your favorite thing in Toledo.

And that's going to work with you to describe Toledo in exactly nine words.

Okay.

All right.

Who is your favorite comedian?

I guess for a comedian, Tig Notaro is just hilarious.

She's just very, very small.

There is one where she's pushing a stool, and it's the funniest thing.

That is a great choice.

Yeah, yeah.

If you could be a kitchen appliance, which one would you be and why?

I'm going to get hate for the spin air fryer.

I think every kitchen should have it.

It's the best thing to take your leftovers and reheat them.

So they're almost restaurant style.

And you can do everything.

Yeah, the laundry at what time of the day do you feel your best?

About like 8 or 9 p.m.. I love that quiet time.

You're going to bed, then?

No, no, I'm just me.

Yeah, I'm up late.

It's like a good time.

Usually I do a lot of painting and artwork.

That's.

It's nice and quiet, and I'm just.

Yeah, well, who's advice do you always listen to my mom?

My mom is always the one that, you know, says the best kind of.

You know, that's what I think it's called an idiom.

Sure.

Where she's like, you know, if you can't do it now, you can't do it later.

So it's like, well, I don't know if that's true.

Sometimes, but but sure.

Okay.

That sounds good.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'll do it now.

Yeah.

What's your number one most favorite or what you consider to be the best thing about the city of Toledo or the region?

It is so accessible.

And this is after going around to different cities and checking out their food scene.

We really have it great here.

There's parking close to most of our restaurants.

The prices are phenomenal for the type of food that we're having, and it's just like a nice community.

People talk to each other, which I love.

All right, the nine words, we'll do it together.

All right.

Okay.

Number one.

Optimistic.

Love it.

Optimistic.

Great start.

I'll say Metro Parks.

I'm stealing that.

That's your parks.

That's okay.

I'll give you two points for that.

Okay?

19.

19, but only 16 that I like.

Okay.

All right, all right.

So you got two birds down.

So we're down.

We've got three down.

You're almost home.

This is silly.

I love people's comments on news channel articles.

Some people are really funny.

Yes.

Awesome.

All right.

Kind.

Kind great.

Three more sociable.

Sociable.

Love it.

Two more.

Affordable.

Affordable.

Love it.

All right, let's finish strong.

Passionate about food.

Oh, delicious.

Delicious.

Perfect.

Close.

If people want to find your videos for more information about your art or anything else you're doing, where can they find you?

Easiest way is to look up.

She's eating it on almost all social media Instagram, Facebook, TikTok.

That's where I'm at.

Thank you for coming in.

Thank you, Michelle Downey, she's eating it.

We'll be back to wrap up this May or Monday.

Restaurant week kick off free kick off something addition.

Yeah, we'll figure it out by the end of the show.

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Welcome back into the 419 as we wrap up this Mayor Monday edition.

And we had a great conversation with the mayor of restaurant.

That's right.

Anna Tony with Leadership Toledo, Trevor Dieter with Dietz Barbecue and a delightful conversation with Michelle Dooney.

She's eating it on social media.

This is a great kickoff to the kickoff to the week has nothing to do with getting free ribs.

That's right.

That was a highlight.

And also, I'll tell you what we start out to show by words that we couldn't spell, right.

Embarrassing in a, has been spelling Tony incorrectly her whole life.

And Eli.

Yes.

Well, you know, it's just t o n y. Well, you know, I do want to bring up, but she was here.

Yeah.

No, I appreciate that.

But, you know, that's that's her choice.

That's right.

I, you know, again, we consistently talk about just how many like you just great sort of underlying stories of things that you you may know this person, right, but you don't really know them.

You know, for me, I've seen Michelle's videos.

Yeah.

And it was such a delight to be able to meet her.

I mean, I feel like I'm.

I agree, I'm meeting a celebrity.

Yeah.

And I genuinely like.

I just love her reviews here.

And I'm seeing places, and I'm like, I've driven past that place a thousand times, and I've never been like, charli's.

Yeah.

Homemade there.

Yeah.

Central.

Central in Monroe.

Sylvania.

So I'm there.

I drive by it all the time, and I was like.

And I watched her review.

I'm like, I gotta go now, I gotta go, I got to go.

I got to go.

There's plenty of places that you got to go.

The first one is August the 4th one nine.

If you missed any part of this show, like what I did there.

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Thanks to Anna, Trevor and Michelle for joining us on the program tomorrow.

We're going all the way to ballot my man p k p k is going to be with us.

We're also going to have Matty Koppel.

Yes.

From the blade.

She's the blade, food writer.

All right.

That and more tomorrow on the 419, powered by GT, presented by Retro Wealth Management.

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