>> Appeals court rules against the abortion ban.

A chip manufacturer coming to Indiana.

Plus (indiscernible) fine and more.

Indiana Week in Review, for the week ending April 5, 2024.

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>> This way, the Indiana Court of Appeals world Indiana's near-total abortion ban likely violates the states religious freedom protections.

A group of anonymous women in the organization Hoosier Jews for Choice sued the state in 2022.

They argued it violated the freedom of information act.

The Indiana Court of Appeal agreed with that.

Ruling that the ban goes too far in restricting some people's religious beliefs.

What that means now for Hoosiers whose religious beliefs do not match that is unclear.

ACLU Indiana -- Indiana Ken Falk is challenging the ban.

>> If there are women who have these religious beliefs, and who need an abortion because of them, I would suggest they contact us.

They are members of the class that we represent all of these persons now.

They should contact us.

We can determine what steps to take.

>> While the case is not over, folx calls it a victory.

>> How broad is the impact of the latest ruling is the first question far Indiana we can review panel.

Democrat, Elise Shrock, Republican Mike O'Brien, Jon Schwantes, host of Indiana Lawmakers, and Niki Kelly Indiana capital Chronicle (indiscernible).

I am Brandon Smith.

Elise Shrock, they are not sure what the impact is of the ruling.

How confusing is the situation for Hoosiers?

>> It is really confusing.

That is what happens when medical decisions that should be between providers and patients, falls into you know, legislative hands into the court system.

And this is exactly the same question you might recall, you asked me recently, when I was on about transgender care for use who are mid transition.

Whose services were halted.

In this particular case we are talking about today, there is also a religious impact.

As the resident church lady, my big job is for a faith space, a Christian faith space.

This is unfortunately, what happens when you let legislation be dictated by a narrow interpretation of one religion.

And it is really unfortunate because I am also a Christian.

And I come from a faith background that affirms and believes in transgender and reproductive care.

The supermajority Republicans are going to have to look at whether or not they want to go down this road where they allow for this type of white, Christian nationalism.

To dictate the way that we are going.

Because I do not think Hoosiers want us.

I do not think this From proposals that they are really asking for to help their day to day problems.

But we continue to find ourselves in the courts, wrapped up in these types of battles.

It does harm.

It is costly to the state.

It sends of that message, nationwide.

>> In terms of a legislative response, obviously this will go to the Indiana Supreme Court, and presumably they will weigh in in one way or another.

But if the abortion ban is broadened, if the restrictions are broadened by the religious Freedom restoration act, of all things, do lawmakers step in and change what that state looks like?

>> There would be a legislative reaction to it.

It depends on the appeals court, remanded the injunction and ordered it to be narrowed.

They said it was too broad, now.

It will impact your people, to the first question.

Presumptively.

Had the legislature gone for a more modest abortion ban, go with the center of Kyle Walker at 15 weeks, or go to 12, go from 22 to 12, maybe the court comes back and says there are still reasonable access to the procedures.

It is upheld.

You do not really know.

But you went all in for the total ban.

This is what you will wind up with.

You will wind up with courts having to sort this out.

And the legislature reacting to it.

If you look at, zoom out and look at the abortion debate nationally for the last 51 years, it it took 50 years to overthrow Roe versus Wade.

Much faster legal system reacting to the statements, as they take effect.

It will not take 1/2 a century to overturn the ban, or reinstate access.

For this reason, you see it all over the country, they overshadow the restrictions.

They put it on the ballot and fail.

It will be a big issue this political season.

I know Democrats in Indiana really wanted to be the difference maker here.

We will see if two or three years later, two or three elections later if that is the case.

Certainly will have an impact on places like Florida where it is on the ballot.

>> I want to About, let's play this out and say, let's say Indiana Supreme Court issues a ruling similar to what the Indiana Court of Appeals just ruled which is a narrow injunction, which is to say anyone whose religious beliefs collect -- conflict with the abortion ban they can have access to abortion care, and Indiana.

What the law says, (audio issues) In all of these cases things need to be litigated and resolved.

They do not just, there is not a flipping of the switch overnight.

You look for instance at the neighboring state of Ohio, which had a ballot question about essentially guaranteeing under the state's constitution, a woman's right to have access to it.

Guess what, the old laws are still on the books.

And now, we are seeing the initiation of litigation to slowly chip At the prohibitions and bands that are in place.

>> They have been doing for a long time.

Chipping away for so long.

>> The point here, those bands are in place.

This is going the opposite direction.

For those who thought hey we enacted the amendment to the Constitution, now tomorrow we can go get an abortion.

That is not what has happened.

That is why these things play out in the manner they do.

Keep in mind that in the Supreme Court we often forget that upholding has been one, Indiana is very strict abortion -- abortion statute is on record as saying article 1 section 1 of the Indiana Constitution guarantees that women do have a right to an abortion, when their lives are endangered and so forth.

That is the first time that a court in Indiana, had said that there is a right.

Now when you argue about degrees, you have established there is that right.

What constitute a form -- harm and physical well-being at >> The Court of Appeals acknowledge that in this ruling.

We saw what you said in this, but also you explicitly said that there would be more.

We have to figure, we have to figure this out.

Litigation after litigation, does this mean, what does this mean?

In terms of an impact on the election, I agree that it is not as direct as we see in places like Florida, the cycle.

But, who the Attorney General is starting to matter a lot more when it comes to this.

Because it is about who is fighting what in court and how are we going after doctors?

Which becomes a major question whatever the abortion statute looks like.

>> Yes, obviously (Unknown name) is taking a pronounced role not only in the abortion site but a number of various topics that he is involved in on the national level.

In terms of this ruling, I do think it is interesting, and I think you were getting at this a minute ago, let's say you are someone with a sincerely held religious beliefs that life does not believe -- begin at conception and you should have be able to have an abortion.

People believe there is not life until first breath.

You can go get an abortion.

But where?

There are only a few hospitals in the state who are doing them.

Many of them are Catholic owned, and refused to do any abortions.

You know, so.

Even though it might be possible, it will not be easy, still.

>> How does someone define that you can say you can profess your love of Jesus Christ, and the last second of your life and you are saved.

So there is... >> Does not pertain to any religion.

(Multiple speakers) >> I have gone to church and I have a (indiscernible) that I have in church.

>> One of the plaintiffs in this case is someone who does not practice any organized religion.

But their spiritual beliefs, which are allowed under this explicitly allowed under the restoration.

The way the religious and registration act was written is open the door for this.

>> The whole idea behind riffraff is that there has to be the least restrictive way of a commish in your goal.

You have exceptions for health, death, rape, so those are, you have set up something (Multiple speakers) >> I want to ask you this, that was an important part of that ruling.

Important part of arguments, trial court's decision, and if it is an important part, if Indiana Supreme Court says (Unknown name) they can have access to abortions because of the exceptions, will be seen as exceptions go away?

Is that something that is tenable, in the Indiana General assembly in reaction to this?

>> I do not know.

I think if it was possible, it would've happened.

>> Where are women going to go for the care?

>> That's where we want to start.

>> It is really difficult, you have had a band like this in place, and people are not coming to Indiana to practice medicine.

>> If you Dual the exceptions how do you say they did this, unchanged since they said there is a guarantee under article 1 in section 1, has somehow disappeared.

>> It does not matter.

Time for feedback.

We posed an unscientific online poll question.

This week's question is the Indiana status Emily let going to make it more or less restrictive, and 2025?

More restricted a, less restrictive, B, or they will not change the ban, see.

We asked if Eric Holcomb would help or hurt.

62% said it would help, 38% said it would hurt.

If you would like to take part in the poll, go to WFYI/org .IW I look for the poll.

>> South Korean tech company plans to invest almost $4 billion to build its first US semi conductor plant in Indiana.

Indiana public press casting violet is saying it will make Indiana leader in next-generation memory production.

>> The company SK Hynix, is a top producer of semiconductor packaging which contributes to technology like JPS, computers, and cell phones.

Woojin Choi is with SK Hynix, he says that (audio issues) And job growth.

>> Talented people will be drawn to Indiana.

Not just for its great community, friendly people, and top-tier basketball, but for the intellectual growth it will find here, as it becomes a hub for scientific development.

>> The facility will be located at Purdue Research Park and West Lafayette.

It is expected to create up to 800 jobs, by the end of 2030.

>> Mike O'Brien, Senator Mike Braun who is running for governor, like many Hoosiers celebrated this announcement, but unlike many Mike Braun voted against the chip that makes this possible.

Is he trying to have it both ways?

>> No, at the time he wanted to have it one way.

Now he wants it the other way.

Not at the same time.

(Laughter) >> I think one, what is tremendous look what is happening in the last three months, Google (indiscernible) coming building a data center, (indiscernible) and the self in, chip manufacturer coming to West Lafayette.

There is momentum being created in Indiana.

Samsung, (Unknown name).

100%.

All of these people work with each other, globally.

It is tremendous Todd Young, plan a work.

Indiana is becoming a hub for high-tech futuristic jobs.

And Elaine always like to talk about wage growth, that is how you do it.

You create high-tech industries, with six (indiscernible) jobs.

That is tremendous.

I think politically, if you want to compare, it is interesting to me.

This kind of project, (Unknown name) is going to cut the ribbon on it.

(Unknown name) is more present issue in the governor's race.

It has been To see how careful and strident they are taking a shot at chambers or being against it, or asking questions around it.

They are conscious to own it.

This is an example of why you did not know you would own it, but it passed.

Legislation passed.

Now you have to, it has a different role now, potentially the >> Is this in some ways bad news, politically for Mike Braun?

>> It also hit on a week where he avoided a vote on the government spending.

Also it shows two different ways that maybe he is trying to have it both ways.

That compounded with other news that I think we will talk about.

It is these types of consistent, hits at someone when you have got several other folks politically taking shots.

We will see how it plays out.

I think likely, puts him more on the defensive then he would've anticipated.

>> On the flipside, is this Brad Chambers just jumping up and down?

>> Yes, I assume IDC was involved in that when he was in charge.

This is a great announcement 2.2.

Frankly, I think this is an announcement that (audio issues) The way they have Legal.

The state puts in all of the money.

And you know, it is a gamble to get someone to come.

This is a little more old-school, and how it is versus the new progress, or new program they are trying.

>> We have talked a lot, they have talked a lot about economic develop and has become in some ways the biggest, one of the biggest wedge issues in the Republican primary, which is stunning.

Does this give folks on both sides of that debate a little something to crow about?

Brad Chambers, look, The lead I took at IDC has paved the way for announcements like this.

To the point Niki made, the folks on the other side can go yeah but, buying up tracts of land in order to do it.

>> That is how it will play out.

Whether it is accurate or not, political reality you will see some which you can use as ammunition.

I do not think it would have occurred without passage of the chip act.

The chips act, which was co-authored by Judge Schumer and Todd Young, Indiana, other path of the dynamic duo were presented from Indiana, State of Indiana and the Senate is beyond just much fun chipmakers.

It is about funding through the National Science Foundation's, and any number of areas.

It is benefiting all of our institutions, public and private that educate people and equip people to have these skills into research.

Of course, these are all Spohn cottage industries.

You have an automotive manufacturer pretty soon you have suppliers and it is a concentric circle ring ripple effect.

If there is a downside, I do not know what it is.

I am sure both sides will claim victory, to a certain extent here.

>> Alright, Elise alluded to this because she rates the scripts that I write.

Mike Braun's U.S. Senate campaign committee was fined hundred and $59,000 by the Federal election commission, related to crime -- campaign finance violations from 2018.

The settlement agreement between the FEC and broad's campaign says that his former campaign treasurer was responsible for failing to correctly give information about repayments amount and other information for 29 transactions totaling more than $11 million.

The agreement notes that the errors were technical in nature.

Forbes first reported the $159,000, calling it the second largest ever imposed on a Senate campaign.

>> Alright Niki, before I asked this question, I mentioned a script for the show, nothing you all say is scripted, the only thing scripted are the packages that you see and hear, that lead into the, present the topics.

Certainly, if anyone has ever listened to Jon Schwantes answer >> My responses written on the coffee cup,... >> Getting to the issue at hand, Niki how much does the FEC funding (audio issues) >> Break a campaign, I do not think it has been a good week for Mike Braun.

That is a huge fine.

One of the biggest in the history of the FEC.

They immediately just blamed a former treasurer.

>> By all appearances, it is not just that they are saying it was their fault.

It does appear to be the former Treasurer issue.

Everybody agreed, in the FEC that it was their fault.

>> I do not actually think so.

What the ruling said was that the respondent says it is the former treasurer.

You know, the FEC members did not say it was the former treasurer.

That was the response from Braun.

Maybe it was.

But the point is as governor, a lot of people will do things wrong on your watch as well.

At some point, the buck stops with you.

On top of that, we have chip stuff, different people running ads against him on qualified immunity.

He is starting to take some heat.

He is pushing back.

I do not think this alone will cause anything.

But, you know, we are starting to see a little bit of shelling of Mike Braun, and seeing if he can come out.

>> In some ways is this the inevitable consequence of being a, not defined itself, that happened years ago.

All of these hits against Mike Braun, is that what happens to a frontline?

>> Easy to dismiss that.

You just gave him a great response to that maybe scripted myself, by him.

I do not know.

Problematic when people do not pay attention to the rules, even if it is a former or current treasurer, or your grandmother who could not see correctly when she filled out the form.

It is problematic.

Especially for someone like Mike Braun.

By that I mean you can choose a lot of ways to present yourself to the electorate.

You can be passionate, a disciple of democracy, or this, or a business person who knows how to make businesses from.

I am a technocrat in the best sense of the word.

When things like this happen, we assume that the buck does stop with the CEO, whether that is a company or a campaign.

It is harder to explain away.

I know how to make the trains run on time, unless somebody else's the conductor, the conductor used to work for me and does not know how to make them run on time.

>> I want to ask about his response to the attack, and the attacks we have been seeing.

He is trying to fire back as much as possible.

Not saying it is a bad strategy.

Does it make him seem like he is worried?

>> No, because I do not think you know what the future holds.

Fiddle tier of candidates by whatever data we have seen that's been made public, middle tier of Suzanne In (Unknown name), moving up.

If you are Mike Braun, you cannot count on the 30% undecided voters.

That is a huge number.

You have to keep your foot on the gas, and all of these guys (audio issues) Losing closing run for maybe Suzanne catches fire She raised $1.1 million in three days, last week.

She appears to maybe be moving.

But the public date is that they are moving together, which is what Braun needs.

These attacks could pull him down a little bit.

He is undecided.

Need to decide where to go.

If they split evenly, he wins.

You cannot count on that.

To say he is pushing back in a sign of weakness.

It is a necessity.

They are coming at you.

>> Point in time, bad week.

Bad week for Mike Braun.

To John's point, out there being a businessman and a CEO, not a Washington, D.C. Kind of guy, but then you are making things that reinforce the kind of things that every day Hoosiers are not going to be like what does the FEC say?

They are not having the same discourse about the technicalities.

They are looking at millions of dollars and it is furthering the sentiment that of corrupt politicians.

So, it is for him, it is a bad week.

If you are taking credit for a ribbon-cutting that seems in disingenuous.

Getting fine, not voting, bad week.

It is a point in time.

We will see what happens.

>> The Indiana Democratic Party is focused on flipping for seats in the statehouse, this year, as doing so would break the super majority Republicans have had for more than a decade.

>> Indiana Democratic party (indiscernible) Mike Schmuhl says to stop slower change harmful legislation.

JAMIE: says they conflict seats by providing voters with quality choices.

Candidates focused on solutions to real problems.

>> I feel like you can only go so far as a political party before you tip over.

I think that the Republican Party is very very close to tipping over.

>> Focus of the party strategy is suburban districts around Indianapolis, Canada looks like Josh Lowry say a key message is the need for greater accountability and transparency.

>> Breaking the super majority is healthy for democracy.

>> Republicans have had a super majority since 2020, and in the house in 2012.

>> Jon Schwantes is for seats achievable?

>> It is achievable because you have Democratic changes around population centers like you know 50 years ago you would not find Democratic victories and almost anywhere in Marion County.

It was rock solid Republican that changes.

Keep in mind, we often forget there are local elements to these races that candidates are not just somebody on a television ad.

In many cases, are the local football coach, This and I think we are at our own peril that we forget that this comes into this as well to >> Finally, the Purdue men's decibel teamwork playing its first final four since 1980 this weekend.

Elise Shrock who will win?

Purdue (audio issues) >> The type of consternation into my life.

Let's go.

>> Purdue or the field?

>> How about (indiscernible) it is fun.

Purdue.

>> I am not picking against UConn, Who is wiping the floor with everyone who comes up against him.

>> You heard it here first.

Against Purdue.

>> Big shout out to Indiana state sycamores who unfortunately lost in a gut wrenching loss last night in the NIT championship.

What a season they had.

Should have been playing in NCAA turn metal that is Indiana Week in Review for this week.

Our panel is Democrat Elise Shrock, Republican Mike O'Brien, Jon Schwantes of Indiana Lawmakers, and Niki Kelly of the Indiana capital Chronicle.

You can find Indiana Week in Review podcast@wfyi.org/IW IR, or on the PBS app.

I am Brandon Smith of Indiana public broadcasting.

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