Greater Boston
April 11, 2023
Season 2023 Episode 54 | 28m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
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TONIGHT, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PRESSURES RUSSIA.
I WILL TALK WITH THE MOTHER OF A JOURNALIST WHO ADVOCATES FOR THE SAFETY AND FREEDOM.
IS IT TOO SOON TO RELY ON TECHNOLOGY CUSTOMER WE WILL HEAR FROM ONE DOCTOR WHO THINKS SO AND A RESEARCHER.
A WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORTER "WRONGFULLY DETAINED."
>> WE ARE MAKING A CLEAR THAT IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL.
>> THE DESTINATION CLEARS THE WAY FOR THE STATE DEPARTMENT TO FIGHT FOR HIS RELEASE.
HE PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN THE RELEASE OF BRITTNEY GRINER.
IT HIGHLIGHTS THE DETERIORATED RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WEST.
THAT IS SOMETHING A JOURNALIST HIGHLIGHTS IN AN OP-ED FOR POLITICAL NOTING HIS ARREST IS MORE THAN AN ASSAULT ON THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS, IT IS A SIGNAL OF A BRAVE NEW REALITY IN WHICH RUSSIA IS OPERATING WHERE THE OLD RULES NO LONGER REPLY.
DIANE'’S SON WAS ABDUCTED AND MURDERED BY ISIS IN SYRIA WHILE WORKING AS A FREELANCE WAR CORRESPONDENT.
WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME.
TELL ME ABOUT YOUR FRIEND.
>> HE IS AN INCREDIBLE JOURNALIST, AND INCREDIBLE FRIEND.
HE IS CARING, WE MET IN COLLEGE SOME 14 YEARS AGO AND KEPT IN TOUCH AS COLLEAGUES.
WHEN HE DECIDED TO MOVE TO MOSCOW, WE WERE CLOSELY IN TOUCH AROUND THAT TIME.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
REMIND US ABOUT JAMES.
>> EVAN REMINDS ME OF JIM.
THEY HELD HIM FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS BEFORE KILLING HIM.
WE FELT WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING SO OUR COUNTRY WOULD BECOME AWARE ABOUT HOW U.S. NATIONALS.
WE MUST PRIORITIZE THE RETURN OF OUR BRAVE, INNOCENT AMERICANS.
>> I WANT TO UNDERSCORE SOME DATA SHOWING AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF COUNTRIES WRONGFULLY DETAINING U.S. NATIONALS, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBER CLIMBING AND CONTINUING TO CLIMB.
IT SEEMS SO SHOCKING, IF YOU HAD SAID TO ME THREE YEARS AGO I WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT AN AMERICAN JOURNALIST IN RUSSIA, HE WOULD BE DIFFICULT, WAS IT SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT?
>> THIS IS AN UNPRECEDENTED CASE.
AN AMERICAN JOURNALIST HAS NOT BEEN DETAINED IN RUSSIA SINCE THE POST-SOVIET ERA, THE LAST TIME ON ESPIONAGE CHARGES IN WHICH HE IS APPEALING IN A RUSSIAN COURT.
HE WAS NOT NAIVE, HE KNEW THE RISKS, HE WAS WELL AWARE OF THE INCREASED REPRESSION IN THE COUNTRY WHICH FIRST CAME FROM LOCAL RUSSIAN JOURNALISTS, SIX OF WHOM ARE UKRAINIANS.
HE KNEW THE CLIMATE WAS WORSENING FOR FOREIGN REPORTERS BUT I DON'’T THINK ANY OF US EXPECTED THIS.
>> DIANE, THERE ARE DIFFERENCES HERE.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE TRAUMA AND PAIN FOR THE FOLKS OF DUCTED IS THE SAME.
WHAT SHOULD AMERICA DOING IS NOT DOING, AND IS IT DOING ENOUGH, UNDERSTANDING THESE CASES ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER AND THE UNITED STATES RESPONSE IS A NEGOTIATION, BUT ARE WE DOING ENOUGH AS A COUNTRY TO FREE THESE FOLKS WHO ARE IMPRISONED?
>> THINGS HAVE IMPROVED, OUR COUNTRY DID LITERALLY NOTHING FOR JIM AND THE OTHER AMERICANS IN THAT TIMEFRAME, HOWEVER, AT LEAST WE HAVE EXPERTISE FOR EVAN, PAUL AND OTHER AMERICANS FOR HELD IN RUSSIA.
I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
WE HAVE THE LEVINSON ACT THAT DESIGNATES PEOPLE AS TOTALLY INNOCENT AND THUS, SOMEONE WHO SHOULD HAVE THE VERY BEST NEGOTIATION AVAILABLE.
THE PROBLEM IS, 10 YEARS AGO PRIMARILY TERRORIST GROUPS WERE TAKEN.
NOW, 90% OF U.S. NATIONALS TAKEN WERE TAKEN BY STATE ACTORS, THEIR COUNTRIES LIKE RUSSIA AND IRAN, CHINA, THUS IT MAKES NEGOTIATING VERY DIFFICULT AND THEY ARE TAKING IT MORE LIKE A WAR TACTIC AGAINST OUR COUNTRY.
THAT IS WHY THE FOUNDATION IS CALLING FOR A REEVALUATION OF THE CURRENT HOSTAGE ENTERPRISE BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO BETTER.
THESE ARE COMPLICATED CASES BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH GOVERNMENTS LIKE RUSSIA, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDA AND THEY ARE GOING TO USE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THAT REGARD.
IT IS AN EMERGENCY.
>> EVEN WHAT WE MIGHT IMAGINE AS A BEST CASE SCENARIO, THEY WILL NOT LET HIM GO AS WE SAW IN THE BRITTNEY GRINER CASE, THEY HAVE AN OFFER ON THE TABLE AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAID THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE IT.
EVEN IF WE ARE LOOKING AT A TIMETABLE OF LESS THAN A YEAR, THAT IS STILL TIME MY FRIEND HAS TO BE THERE, IT MAKES ME SICK.
>> LINDA, WHAT WAS IMPORTANT ABOUT REPORTING ON CHINA?
WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR EVAN, WHAT ARE THE STORIES HE IS COMPELLED TO TELL?
>> I THINK AS THE SON OF SOVIET IMMIGRANTS, HE FELT A DEEP CONNECTION TO THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE, HISTORY, AND FELT COMPELLED TO CHRONICLE WHAT LIFE IS LIKE ON THE GROUND, ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME WHERE THERE IS SO MUCH GROWING REPRESSION DOMESTICALLY AND FEWER VOICES TO COVER IT.
HIS LAST PIECE WAS ABOUT THE FRAGILE STATE OF THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY, AND AS WE HAVE SEEN CORRESPONDENCE BE UNDER ARREST, IT'’S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO GET NEWS OUT OF RUSSIA THAT WE EXPECT.
>> OBVIOUSLY, CONCERNS IN MANY COUNTRIES WHO WE HAVE REPORTERS ON THE GROUND.
WHAT CAN THE AVERAGE PERSON DO ABOUT THIS?
I UNDERSCORE HOW COMPLICATED THESE CASES ARE AND HOW INDIVIDUAL THEY ARE, NATIONAL PLAYERS, AND SOMETIMES CRIMINALS , BUT WHAT CAN WE DO?
HOW CAN WE HELP?
>> THAT HELPS AS AN AMERICAN TO BE AWARE.
WE CAN BE MORE WAYS TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF THING, JOURNALISTS AND AMERICANS ARE MORE OFTEN TARGETED.
THEY DON'’T WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT TO HAPPEN.
AMERICANS ARE MORE AND MORE AWARE.
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS THE BACKS OF OUR CITIZENS, NOT DOING ANY HARM AT ALL.
I'’M CALLING ON OUR PRESIDENT AND GOVERNMENT TO MAKE THIS A HIGHEST PRIORITY TO BRING ALL WHO ARE UNJUSTLY DETAINED.
WE HAVE MANY WAITING 10 YEARS IN CHINA, SYRIA, PEOPLE IN IRAN, SIX YEARS TOO LONG.
ALL BECAUSE THEY ARE FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES.
>> HOW IS EVAN'’S FAMILY HOLDING UP?
>> THEY JUST PUT OUT THE FIRST PUBLIC STATEMENT, SAYING THEY WILL HAVE A HOLE IN THE HEARTS UNTIL THEY ARE REUNITED WITH THEIR SON, THAT HE WAS BOTH A LOVING SON AND BROTHER.
WE'’RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT THEM IN THIS TIME AND HELPING MAKE SURE ALL OF US STAY CONNECTED TO EVAN, SO HE CAN NO THROUGH THE MEANS AVAILABLE THAT WE ARE THINKING OF HIM AND FIGHTING FOR HIM AND HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN HIM.
>> DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE MAJOR NEWS ORGANIZATIONS UNDERSTAND THE RISKS BEING TAKEN AND ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEM IF NEEDED IN THE WORST CASE SCENARIO?
>> I THINK WHAT THE JOURNAL IS DOING RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE, THEY ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH U.S. GOVERNMENT TO RESPOND TO HIS DETENTION, AND I THINK THIS IS AN UNEXPECTED AND UNPRECEDENTED SITUATION.
>> DIANE, CAN YOU GIVE US INFORMATION FROM THE FOLEY FOUNDATION?
>> WE HAVE A WEBSITE, JAMESFOLEY FOUNDATION.ORG.
JOURNALISTS OFTEN DO NOT HAVE THE BACKING OF A BIG PUBLICATION LIKE THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WHO IS DOING JUST WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BRING THIS TO EVERYONE'’S ATTENTION, BUT OFTEN THERE ARE FREELANCERS WHO NEED COMPANIES TO HAVE THEIR BACK.
I WILL URGE THE SUPPORT FOR EVAN AND ALL INNOCENT AMERICANS.
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE 54 PUBLIC CASES, THAT IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
WE HAVE MANY IN A GRAY ZONE, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT DESIGNATION OR MAY NEVER HAVE IT.
THEY ARE BEING HELD ABROAD.
THEY NEED OUR HELP.
>> DIANE FOLEY AND LINDA CANSLER, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR STORIES WITH US.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
MANY OF US ALREADY USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES, USING FACES TO UNLOCK OUR PHONES OR ASKING SIRI TO SEND A TEXT, OR TELLING ALEXA TO SKIP THE SONG.
WHAT ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH AND WELL-BEING?
USING AI, DOCTORS CAN PLUG IN PATIENTS AND SYMPTOMS AND ALMOST INSTANTLY GET BACK A DIAGNOSIS.
THE ANALYSIS IS NOT ALWAYS FOOLPROOF AND ANALYSIS CAN SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS.
THE FDA ANNOUNCED THAT AI HAS THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO MODERN INFORMATION, TO IDENTIFY AND ELIMINATE THE BIAS.
ONE OF MY NEXT GUESTS SHARES THE CAUTION.
WELCOME TO BOTH OF I WANT TO -- MY DAUGHTER HAS A TENURE MEDICAL JOURNEY, AND JUST RECENTLY TWO YEARS AGO GOT -- I READ HER SYMPTOMS AND IT CAME OUT WITH THE DIAGNOSIS IT CAME OUT -- I POSTED ON FACEBOOK AND A NUMBER OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS PUSHED BACK AND SAID HOLD YOUR HORSES.
IS MY EXPERIENCE CRAZY?
IS THAT WHAT THE FUTURE MAY HOLD?
>> FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I DON'’T TICKETS CRAZY AT ALL.
THE NEWEST LANGUAGE MODELS ARE INCREDIBLY POWERFUL.
EVERY LITERATURE ARTICLE, PIECES OF DATA.
TO MAKE THOSE PATTERNS AND CONNECTION.
IT'’S NOT ON THE MONEY.
IT IS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF AN INTERN.
>> I WANT TO SHARE A DATA POINT.
OVERALL, THE ACCURACY WAS 72%.
AS YOU POINT OUT, THAT'’S HOW A NEW INTERN WOULD BE DOING ON THE FLOOR, THAT LEADS ME TO YOU.
WHAT SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED ABOUT?
I AM LIKE THIS IS GREAT, I'’M SURE THIS IS A DARKSIDE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
I'’M ENTHUSIASTIC.
I'’M CONCERNED WITH HOW LITTLE WE ARE USING IT TODAY AND CLINICAL CARE.
WE ARE OVEREMPHASIZING, I MOVED TO THE FIELD IN 2016.
THERE IS NO COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAT SHOWS PENETRATION, BUT IF WE ARE ALL THINKING ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCES AS PATIENTS, WE SEE VERY LITTLE OF IT.
I'’M CONCERNED THE DISCOURSE IS ON DANGERS AND TOGETHER, WE CAN INCLUDE THE QUALITY OF CARE IN PHYSICALS.
>> WE WANT TO UNDERSCORE, WE DON'’T WANT ANY GPT DIAGNOSIS WITHOUT SPEAKING TO A QUALIFIED MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL INPUT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE ALL BEEN THERE.
WE THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING, THE INTERNET SAID OF COURSE THE INTERNET SAID, THE INTERNET ALSO SAID THIS.
HOW IS YOUR PROFESSION REACTING?
>> OVERALL, IT'’S EXTREMELY BULLISH.
IT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A FEW YEARS, AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BENCHMARKING PERFORMANCES.
ONE THING I WANT TO UNDERSCORE IS THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT DOCTORS AND REPLACE.
THEY WILL BE REPLACED BY DOCTORS WHO LEVERAGE AI, PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS ARE OVERBURDENED BY PAPERWORK, ARGUING WITH INSURANCE COMPANIES, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE A CHAT ABOUT THAT CAN WRITE INSURANCE APPEAL LETTERS.
THAT HAS HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE.
THAT IS TWO HOURS, POSITION WELLNESS, MORE EFFICIENCY.
>> HAS FREQUENT FLIERS, MY FAMILY WITH FIVE SPECIALISTS, IT JUST TOOK US FOUR MONTHS, DID NOT HAVE INFORMATION, CZECHIA BT COULD TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THE.
CZECHIA BT -- CHAT GPT MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS.
>> WE COULD HAVE THE BEST CARE, THE MOST CUTTING EDGE CARE.
>> SOME PEOPLE, I'’M HEARING THIS COULD CUT DOWN ON HUMAN TRIALS, PREDICTIONS ON HOW CERTAIN PEOPLE, I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS THE RESISTANCE, BESIDES THE FACT WE JUST WENT THROUGH CRYPTO WAS NOT AS BIG AS IT WAS, THERE IS ALWAYS THE REACTION OF THE SHINY NEW THING?
>> A LOT OF AI IS USED EVERY DAY BUT THE RIGHT PEOPLE FEEL RESISTANCE.
I THINK PART OF IT, THERE ARE MANY CLINICIANS WHO DID NOT STUDY AI DURING MEDICAL TRAINING.
IT'’S AMUSING TO FEEL RESPONSIBILITY TOWARDS THE PATIENT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE TECHNOLOGY.
I'’M EXCITED FOR THE NEW SET OF LAWS, BUT LAWS ARE CHANGING ALL THE TIME, AND AS A RESULT, CLINICIANS FOCUSING ON THE DANGERS INSTEAD OF OPPORTUNITIES .
>> AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE JUST BEEN THROUGH THE PERIOD OF SOCIAL MEDIA, LET'’S SEE IF WE CAN FIX IT.
LAWMAKERS ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO CATCH UP.
WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS FIRST.
THIS BEING IN THE MEDICAL FIELD AND HOW EXPONENTIALLY THIS TECHNOLOGY SEEMS TO BE MOVING, I FEEL LIKE I JUST GOT THE FIRST VERSION IN DECEMBER AND I AM ALREADY ON THE FOURTH VERSION.
SHOULDN'’T THERE BE SOME CAUTIOUS GUARDRAILS PUT UP BEFORE WE START ADVOCATING THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA?
>> WE ALWAYS NEED TO COMPARE WHEN WE INTRODUCE A NEW TECHNOLOGY WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
LET'’S LOOK AT MAMMOGRAMS.
RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE ALREADY BY HUMANS.
A LOT OF STATISTICS DEMONSTRATE THAT HUMANS MAKE MISTAKES.
ONE OUT OF SEVEN MAY BE MISDIAGNOSED.
WE CAN COMPARE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE HUMAN VERSUS AUGMENTED BY A MACHINE THAT CAN ACT AS EXTRA HELP.
THE ONLY WAY TO MOVE FORWARD IS TO MOVE THE LARGE-SCALE IMPLEMENTATION AND SEE HOW IT IMPACTS THE PATIENT.
UNFORTUNATELY, MOST STUDIES ARE LIMITED TO RETROACTIVE STUDIES, BUT THE BIGGER THING IS TO CREATE THE STATUS THAT DOES NOT REALLY IMPROVE PERFORMANCE.
>> I LIVED THROUGH, IT'’S NOT A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, I LIVED THROUGH IT PAPERWORK AND COMPUTER CHANGEOVER IN ONE OF MY PROVIDERS, I HAD TWO APPOINTMENTS AND IT WAS AS IF THE WHOLE BUILDING WAS ON FIRE.
I'’M JOKING BUT I FEEL THE PAIN.
WHAT IS THE APPETITE FOR THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY, PROFESSIONALS, UNDERSTANDING THIS MAY MEAN THERE WILL BE A BIG CHANGEOVER IN HOW WE INPUT RECORDS, WHERE IT GETS STORED?
>> WE ARE CREATING DIGITAL SYSTEMS TO DO WHAT YOU SAID.
IT'’S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.
CHANGED OVER TO A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWED US TO READ MORE STUDIES.
I THINK IT'’S A WELCOME CHANGE.
THE DOCTOR SAID SOMETHING REALLY INTERESTING AND IT HAS TO BE SUPERVISED, IF WE GOT SOME OF THE TOOLS DOING LARGE-SCALE TRIALS, THE BENEFIT WILL BE SO CLEAR, SO ADVANCED SO THE SAFETY MEASURES ARE THERE.
THERE WILL BE MORE FRICTIONLESS.
>> FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BIAS THAT IT IS US, WE TALK ABOUT INTELLIGENCE, IT'’S TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE AND INTERPRETING IT.
HOW CAN WE SAFEGUARD AGAINST THE BIASES THAT WE MAY PUT INTO THIS SYSTEM?
>> BIAS COMES FROM THOSE WHO DESIGN THE SYSTEMS IN THE SENSE THAT IF YOU ARE TRAINING ON ONE POPULATION, THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES IT WOULD WORK WELL.
TESTING TOOLS IN A DIVERSE POPULATION BEFORE PUBLISHING OR DEPLOYMENT.
AT THE SAME TIME, TECHNOLOGICAL GUARDS WHERE THE MACHINE CAN TELL US THAT IT IS NOT SURE, SO WE CAN TRY AND CREATE A DIVERSE POPULATION AS MUCH AS WE WANT, BUT ONCE THE SYSTEM IS IN PRACTICE, THERE CAN BE SOME UNIQUE CASES.
WE ARE WORKING ON MODELS THAT CAN HELP THE MACHINE TO SAY I DON'’T KNOW.
THERE ARE EMPHASES ON MACHINE LEARNING TO PREDICT VERY ACCURATELY WHEN THE MACHINE COULD SAY I DON'’T KNOW.
>> I AM SO EXCITED.
I AM GLAD YOU WILL JOINED US.
GO FORTH, LET'’S SEE WHAT IT BRINGS.
THANK YOU FOR BOTH OF US.
I DO SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
>> TAKE CARE.
>> THAT IS IT FOR TONIGHT, COME BACK TOMORROW, THE GOVERNOR JOINS US TO UNVEIL HER OUR PLAN INCLUDING HER PUSH TO INVEST IN LIVE THEATER BECAUSE THE STATE.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
GOOD NIGHT.
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