>>> HELLO, I'M KYLE DYER AND WELCOME TO COLORADO INSIDE OUT ON THIS FRIDAY, APRIL 12TH.

LET ME INTRODUCE TO YOU THIS WEEK'S PANEL.

PATTY CALHOUN, FOUNDER AND EDITOR OF WESTWORD.

DAVID KOPEL, RESEARCH DIRECTOR AT INDEPENDENCE INSTITUTE.

PENFIELD TATE, DENVER ATTORNEY AND FORMER REPRESENTATIVE IN BOTH THE STATE HOUSE AND THE STATE HOUSE IN THE COLORADO LEGISLATURE.

LUIGE DEL PUERTO, EDITOR AT COLORADO POLLICES AND THE DENVER GAZETTE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE.

THANKS FOR COMING ON.

THE POWER OUTAGES THAT XCEL ENERGY PROACTIVELY ORDERED LAST WEEKEND, BEFORE THE STRONG WINDS PLOWED INTO THE FRONT RANGE ARE STILL THE TALK.

ESPECIALLY, CONSIDERING NOT EVERYBODY EFFECTED RECEIVED A PROPER WARNING AND THE RESTORATION OF THE POWER WAS SLOW IN SOME AREAS WHICH AFFECTED SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES.

PATTY, LET'S START WITH YOU.

IT HAS BEEN QUITE A THING THIS WHOLE WEEK.

>> IF YOU REMEMBER THE MARSHALL FIRE.

WHO DOESN'T?

JUST THE AMOUNT OF DEVASTATION WHEN NO ONE WAS EXPECTING IT.

YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY XCEL THOUGHT THEY SHOULD TAKE ACTION.

YOU WOULD NEVER WANT TO SEE THAT KIND OF PROBLEM AGAIN.

XCEL HAD SOME CULL ABILITY IN THAT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID THEY GOT A WARNING.

THERE WOULD BE BUSINESSES WITHOUT POWER WITH BUSINESSES WITH POWER.

THE FOOD BANK IN BOULDER LOST FOOD.

THE COMMUNICATIONS WASN'T GREAT.

REPAIR IT AS FAST AS THEY COULD.

AS WE HAVE HEARD THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB ON THAT TOO.

THE QUESTION IS WAS IT A SMART MOVE TO TURN OFF POWER PRIMARILY IN BOULDER COUNTY.

>> HERE IS SOMEONE IN BOULDER COUNTY.

>> SOME PEOPLE LOST POWER, I DIDN'T.

PEOPLE SHOULD GET READY FOR MORE AND MORE OF THIS.

WE HAVE GONE THE SAME PATH AS CALIFORNIA AND HAWAII.

THE POLITICAL POWERS FORCE THE UTILITY GIVE ALL KINDS OF RATE PAYERS MONEY TO POLITICALLY FAVORED BUSINESSES.

THAT COMES AT THE COST OF STRENGTHENING THE GRID TRANSMISSION SYSTEM.

THE SUN DOESN'T ALWAYS SHINE AND THE WIND DOESN'T ALWAYS BLOW.

I URGE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GO WITHOUT ELECTRICITY LIKE THEY HAVE A HOME OXYGEN MACHINE OR A RESTAURANT WITH A REFRIGERATOR.

GET IT HOOKED UP TO A NATURAL GAS LINE.

THE OTHER OPTION DO BOTH, GET SOLAR POWER ON YOUR ROOF.

YOU CAN HAVE A BATTERY STORAGE SO YOU CAN GET THE OXYGEN MACHINE GOING.

YOU CAN'T COUNT ON XCEL TO SAVE YOUR LIFE ANYMORE.

>> PENFIELD?

>> IT IS AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION FROM THE POLICY POINT OF VIEW.

I THINK XCEL DID THE RIGHT THING BEING PROACTIVE TO AVOID ANOTHER MARSHALL SITUATION.

THERE ARE SOME AREAS WE OUGHT TO CUT POWER.

CLEARLY IF YOU MAKE THAT DECISION, YOU GOT TO LET AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO CUT POWER TO THESE AREAS.

TO DAVID'S POINT I UNDERSTAND HOW MONEY HAS BEEN USED TO DIVERSIFY THE POWER PRODUCTION BASE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO TRANSITION TO RENEWABLES LIKE SOLAR AND WIND.

I DON'T THINK DOING THAT CREATED A PROBLEM HERE.

WE GET WIND HERE.

WE NOW KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS.

I DON'T NECESSARY FAVOR EVERYONE GETTING A GENERATOR.

GOING SOLAR IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT ON YOUR HOME.

WITH MANY ALTERNATIVE POWER SOURCES THEY MAY BE THE RIGHT THING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT BUT COST PROHIBITED.

>> HE HAS BEEN BOMBARDED WITH CALLS.

HE ASKED THE UTILITIES COMMISSION.

THEY ARE GOING TO ASK XCEL FOR THEIR COMMUNICATION PLAN.

I THINK DAVID IS CORRECT.

PEOPLE OUGHT TO PREPARE.

THIS IS A DRY RUN FOR XCEL.

I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING BACK TO WHERE THINGS WERE.

BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, I COME FROM A COUNTRY UNFORTUNATELY, BLACKOUTS WE CALL THEM BROWN YOU KNOWS COME ALL THE TIME.

I THINK WE WILL SEE THOSE MORE AND MORE HERE.

>> THE COLORADO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION IS HOLDING A HEARING NEXT WEEK.

YOU CAN SUBMIT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.

>>> THE XCEL SITUATION WASN'T THE ONLY DUST UP THAT EMERGED LAST WEEKEND AND SPREAD INTO THE WEEK.

WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF PARTISANSHIP IN COLORADO AND CONFLICT WITHIN THE PARTIES AND WITH THE PRESS.

DAVID LET'S START WITH YOU.

>> WE HAVE THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND COLORADO REPUBLICAN CHAIR DAVID WILLIAMS.

WHO OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS CHARACTERS IN TODAY'S COLORADO POLITICS.

WILLIAMS HAVE BEEN BREAKING PARTY RULES FOR HIS PERSONAL BENEFIT.

HE HAS DONE SO MUCH TO DESTROY THE PARTY THERE IS NOT MUCH MONEY TO STEAL.

IF HE GETS INTO CONGRESS, THERE IS WAY MORE MONEY AROUND FOR A CONGRESSMAN TO STEAL.

GRISWOLD YOU CAN GET IMPEACHED.

THERE IS NO CLEAR LEGAL DEFINITION THAT EVERYONE DISAGREES ON.

MISBEHAVIOR IN OFFICE THAT IS CLEAR.

I THINK IT WAS REASONABLE FOR VOTES PRO OR CON ON THAT RESOLUTION.

>> PEN?

>> I WOULDN'T GO SO FAR HE STOLEN MONEY.

MONEY IS GONE.

THE PARTY IS MAKING WEIRD ENDORSEMENTS WHICH BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES HAVE AVOIDED ENDORSING PRIMARY CANDIDATES.

THEN YOU SEE PARTIES EITHER REMOVING REPORTERS.

THERE USED YOU WOULD DIE AND BEG FOR A REPORTER TO SHOW UP SO PEOPLE KNOW A MEETING WAS TAKING PLACE.

NOW THEY ARE EXPELLING THEM.

NOW YOU HAVE PARTIES SAYING YOU CAN'T PARTICIPATE, YOU CAN'T SHOW UP.

YOU CAN'T COME TO MEETINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.

WE DON'T RESPECT THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO THAT EXTEND.

I GREW UP ARGUING WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE I DIDN'T AGREE WITH.

I UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT THEY COULD DISAGREE WITH ME.

WE HAVE LOST THAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET THAT BACK.

PART OF THE FABRIC OF FAIR PLAY IS GONE.

>> I'M JUST CURIOUS SINCE YOU WORKED IN THE LEGISLATURE IS IT SMART FOR YOU, DOES IT HURT FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING?

>> IT DOES.

IT BOTHERS ME.

I HAVE INFORMALLY REACHED OUT TO THE PEOPLE IN THE BODY.

PASSED ALONG MESSAGES YOU CAN'T BEHAVE LIKE THAT.

YOU GOT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS.

PEOPLE HAVE TO -- YOU WIN SOME VOTES AND LOSE SOME VOTES THEN YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT VOTE.

>> WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU WHEN YOU SAY YOU CAN'T BEHAVE THIS WAY?

>> THEY SAY THAT IS THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW.

IT WAS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO WIN OR LOSE.

IT HAS BECOME A WEIRD BLOOD SPORT NOW.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

>> THE GOVERNOR ON THE FAR END OF THAT SPECTRUM DISAGREEING BETTER.

OKAY REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS CLEARLY DISAGREE.

IT IS FINE TO TALK ABOUT THE DISAGREEMENT.

WE ARE NOT BEING POLITE, WE ARE NOT BEING NICE.

WE GOT TO WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES.

TO ME WHAT HAPPENED IN PUEBLO WAS THE MOST CONSTITUENT CIAL THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THE LAW THAT UP ENDED -- WHICH THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IN A HEARTBEAT.

DIDN'T GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE SIGNING IT.

THAT LAW ALLOWED THE ABILITY TO HIDE THINGS FROM JOURNALIST.

THAT IS THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL THINGS THAT HAPPENED.

>> LET'S GO BACK TO DAVID WILLIAMS.

FIRST OF ALL, LUCKY FOR SANDRA ALTHOUGH SHE DRIVED THROUGH PUEBLO SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO SIT THROUGH HOURS OF THAT ASSEMBLY.

IN THE MEANTIME SHE MADE HEAD LINES AROUND THE WORLD.

SANDRA FISH IS NOT A KNOW NOTHING.

SHE IS A DATA EXPERT.

A JOURNALIST OF LONG STANDING REPUTATION IN THIS TOWN.

SHE IS NOT THE PERSON YOU WANT TO THROW OUT.

SHE IS A STRAIGHT UP TRADITIONAL JOURNALIST WHO DOES A GREAT JOB.

RIDICULOUS TO THROW HER OUT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT ANOTHER STANDUP PERSON.

KELLY WHO FILED A COMPLAINT BECAUSE OF DAVE WILLIAMS.

ALL THE CRAZIES THINGS HE HAS BEEN DOING.

>>> WE HAVE A MONTH LEFT IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND THIS WEEK A BILL WAS INTRODUCED HAVING TO DO WITH RTD, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT.

THE BILL CALLS FOR RESTRUCTURING THE BOARD AND THE DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS BEHIND THIS BILL SAY THEY WANT RTD TO ALIGN BETTER WITH WORKFORCE ISSUES, AFFORDABILITY, AND CLIMATE.

PENFIELD?

>> I WOULD SUBMIT THE ISSUE FOR RTD IT STARTED AT THE BUS COMPANY.

WHEN COLORADOANS SAID THEY WANTED LIGHT RAIL THEY SAID IT WAS TRANSIT COMPANY.

THE CONCERN I HAVE WITH THIS LEGISLATION IS WE NEED TO THINK COMPREHENSIVELY.

IF RTD STRUGGLED TO GO FROM THE BUS SYSTEM TO THE TRANSIT COMPANY IT CAN'T BE A MULTI MODAL DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.

THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY DO.

THEY CAN'T BE FOCUSED ON ALTERNATIVE ENERGY AND OTHER THINGS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DO.

THEY NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WORK WITH SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND FIGURE OUT TO GET PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO POINT B AS QUICKLY AND INEXPENSIVELY AS POSSIBLE.

BUILDING ALL THE BIKE LANES IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

RESTRICTING PARKING AND TRAFFIC LANES ISN'T GOING TO WORK.

WE DON'T HAVE IT.

I'M NOT CONVINCED THIS BILL WILL GET US THERE.

>> THIS PROPOSAL BRINGS 15 VOTING MEMBERS TO 7.

IN THEORY THEY WANT RTD TO BE PART OF THIS GRAND SOLUTION TO TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, AND CLIMATE.

AND RTD HAS FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS ABOUT KEEPING CRIME OUT, DRUG PROBLEMS, KEEPING THE TRAIN ON TIME.

THEY ARE CONSIDERING, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE ELECTRIC BUSES ARE GOOD FOR THE REGION.

WE TALKED TO ONE OF THE OFFICIALS, THEIR SPOKESPERSON A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

HE SAID WE CAN'T JUST DIVE HEAD ON TO THIS IDEA.

BUSES ARE RUN BY ELECTRIC BUSES MAY NOT LAST AS LONG AS DIESEL ENGINE BUSES.

IT WILL BE A FIGHT OVER THIS BILL.

>> PATTY?

>> WE REMEMBER AT ONE POINT THEY WERE ALL APPOINTED.

THIS IS THE PARKS, THE SOLUTION WAS TO HAVE THEM ELECTED WHICH MAKES THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO VOTERS.

WHO PAYS THAT MUCH ATTENTION TO RTD MEETINGS.

THEY PAY ATTENTION WHEN THE A-LINE BREAKS DOWN.

IT WILL BE DOWN AGAIN TOMORROW FOR SOME REPAIRS.

THEY PAY ATTENTION WHEN BUSES ARE LATE.

THEY PAY ATTENTION WHEN THE MALL IS A MESS.

THAT'S WHEN THEY PAY ATTENTION.

YOU DON'T HAVE WATCHDOGS PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THIS CRITICAL GROUP.

WILL IT HELP THEY ARE APPOINTED?

OR SOME ARE APPOINTED?

MAYBE.

PEN IS RIGHT.

IT IS NOT JUST THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEIR MISSION IS.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHO THEY HIRE TO WORK ON THE DENSITY PLANS, TO WORK ON THE PUBLIC TRANSIT.

UNTIL WE GET PUBLIC TRANSIT GOING THE BIKE LANES ARE NOT GOING TO KEEP DENVER MOVING.

>> WELL, ONCE AGAIN DEMOCRACY IS ON THE LINE.

WE HAVE A 15-MEMBER ELECTED BOARD.

MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE BILL THAT WE WILL SAY IN THE FUTURE ONLY 5 ELECTED MEMBERS AND 10 MEMBERS APPOINTED BY THE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT.

THAT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE RTD MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF RIDERS.

THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS DEMOCRACY IS THE THEORY THEY ARE GOING TO GET AN RTD BOARD THAT WILL MAKE PEOPLE LIVE LIKE THE BIG PLANNERS WANT.

THEY WANT DENSE TRANSIT VILLAGES.

THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN MAKE ECONOMICS WORK IS EVERYONE LIVES AT A BUS STOP.

PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LIVE WORKER BEES IN HONG KONG STYLE HOUSING.

MOST PEOPLE WANT SPACE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY.

THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEND AN HOUR ON RTD WHEN THEY CAN DRIVE TO THE SAME PLACE IN 15 MINUTES.

RTD WAS CREATED BY THE PEOPLE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.

THIS BILL TURNS IT AROUND AND SAYS THE PEOPLE EXIST TO SERVE RTD.

>> LAST WEEK WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOOMING QUESTIONS REGARDING HOW MUCH MONEY THE CITY OF DENVER IS SPENDING TO HOUSE THE HOMELESS.

WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSE THE MIGRANTS SOME UPDATED NUMBERS THIS WEEK.

NEW PLAN GOING FORWARD IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE WORRIED GOING TO BE TAKEN AWAY.

>> IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THESE CRISIS NOW IN DENVER.

IT IS A BIG AMOUNT.

IT IS $90 MILLION.

OF COURSE, THE MAYOR ONCE SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE 180 MILLION NOW HE SAID IT WILL BE 120 MILLION.

I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK, ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY IT IS LESS THAN -- IT IS HALF 180 MILLION THAT IS A GOOD THING.

IT IS $90 MILLION OF UNALLOCATED FUNDS.

IT IS A BIG PROBLEM.

>> IT IS NOT JUST THAT HE CUT 180 MILLION DOWN TO 90 MILLION.

HE HAS CUT SERVES THAT DENVER HAS BEEN PROSIDING TO MIGRANTS.

IT WILL BE CUT FROM 42 DAYS FOR FAMILIES.

YOU WILL OVERNIGHT OR TWO DAYS.

THEY ARE DEFINITELY -- I LIKE THE ASYLUM PROGRAM.

THEY WILL WORK WITH TO GET WORK PERMITS.

HELP THEM INTEGRATE.

THEY ARE SAYING TO OTHER MIGRANTS DON'T STAY HERE IF YOU CAN LEAVE.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT JOHNSTON HE IS CUTTING, NOT HIRING.

HE IS CUTTING THE SERVICES TO MIGRANTS.

>> IT IS DARKLY FUNNY THAT AFTER ALL THE SANCTUARY CITY TALK WE HAD FROM OFFICIALS INCLUDING MIKE JOHNSTON IN THE PAST YEARS, YOU NOW HAVE HIS OFFICIALS GOING OUT AND SAYING, LEAVE HERE, WE ARE TERRIBLE.

GO TO NEW YORK CITY OR CHICAGO IT IS BETTER THERE.

I'M A FORMER NEW YORK CITY RESIDENT.

THEY ARE FAR OVERWHELMED WITH THEIR INFLUX THAN DENVER IS.

THE TAXPAYERS AND LONG TIME RESIDENTS OF NEW YORK CITY, MANY OF THEM WHO CAN AFFORD TO ARE FLEEING AND GETTING OUT.

>> AS WE ALWAYS DO, WE HAVE TO START WITH THE PROPOSITION AND UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYTHING IS THE FUNCTION OF THE FEDERAL SYSTEM AND THE FACT WE DON'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LOGICAL IMMIGRATION STRUCTURE SET OF LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND SO EVERYBODY IS FENDING FOR THEMSELVES FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO IN THE ABSENCE WHAT SHOULD BE THE FEDERAL FRAMEWORK.

THAT BEING SAID, I GET WHERE THE MAYOR IS COMING FROM.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE HERE WHETHER YOU ASK THEM TO BE HERE OR NOT YOU HAVE TO SERVE THEM.

YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

IT IS THE FUNCTION OF MAKING SURE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FUNCTIONS.

IT IS LIKE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE UNHOUSED POPULATION.

YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION SOMEHOW.

I THINK THE MAYOR WAS RIGHT TO OPEN TEMPORARY SHELTERS WHERE IMMIGRANTS AND OTHER PEOPLE COULD GO TO RECEIVE SERVICES.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE INFLUX HAS SUBSIDED.

WHAT IS INTERESTING IS AS MONEY GETS DIVERTED PARTICULARLY AS YOU GO A HIRING FREEZE AND CAPTURE VACANCY, SAVINGS YOU REACH A POINT DEPENDING WHERE YOU GET THE SAVINGS.

SOME FUNCTIONALITY IN CITY GOVERNMENT MAYBE LOST FOREVER.

IF THERE ARE SOME JOBS DON'T GET FILLED YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO FILL THEM BECAUSE THE AGENCY WILL CHANGE.

MAYBE THAT IS A GOOD THING.

MAYBE BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT NECESSARY.

IN MANY INSTANCES YOU WILL SEE A REDUCTION IN SERVICES.

>> IS THERE A TIME FRAME THIS HIRING FREEZE MAY LAST?

>> IT MAY BE ONE FISCAL, NOT TWO.

YOU DON'T REALIZE THE SAVINGS.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS.

YOU ARE IN THE BUDGET CRUNCH ALL OVER AGAIN.

>> JUST QUICKLY.

YOU MENTIONED THE PROBLEM STARTS FROM THE BORDER AND NOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THESE CRISIS.

EVERY TIME I SEE AN EMAIL FROM THE CITY WE ARE A WELCOMING CITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT DENVER FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR.

COLORADO SPRINGS THEY ARE SAYING WE CAN'T AFFORD YOU TO BE HERE.

I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS PEOPLE ARE COMING TO DENVER.

>> I THINK THAT MAY BE PART OF IT.

YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT.

WE HAVE A NATIONAL PROBLEM WE HAVE INCONSISTENT MESSAGES.

THIS USED TO BE THE LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE NOW IT IS NOT REALLY.

YOU HAVE ONE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SAYING I WANT PEOPLE FROM NICE COUNTRIES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

>> YOU HAVE BUSES COMING FROM TEXAS.

WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE?

YOU CAN BE DOWN IN THIS BORDER TOWN OR YOU CAN GET ON A BUS.

>> I STILL THINK THE CITY START TO CONSIDER SUING THE STATE OF TEXAS TO RECAPTURE SOME OF THE COST OF PROVIDING SERVICE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE BUT SENT HERE INTENTIONALLY BY ANOTHER STATE.

>> AND BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS -- IT IS NOT FAIR TO SAY INSURE THE ENTIRE BRUNT.

>> IT SHOULD NOT BE BY IN PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.

>> NOW IT IS TIME TO GO TO THE HIGHS AND LOWS OF THE WEEK.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOWS ALREADY.

LET'S CONTINUE.

>> I CAN BRING BACK THE MIGRANT ISSUE.

MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING HORRIBLE SITUATIONS.

WE HAVE TO CREDIT PEOPLE WHO STEPPED UP.

THE VOLUNTEERS, THE CHURCHES, AND IT IS ONE SAD STORY.

ONE CHURCH IN DENVER WAS WORKING TO SEND MIGRANTS WORKING WITH A CHURCH THERE.

THEY HAD JOBS FOR THEM ON A RANCH.

BECAUSE OF BLOW BACK IN THIS TOWN THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE THE BURDEN OF HELPING PEOPLE OUT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK OUT.

>> THE SLEAZIEST BILL IS HOUSE BILL 1311 WHICH WOULD ELIMINATE TABOR REFUNDS.

IT WOULD TAKE THE MONEY WHICH PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO BY OUR CONSTITUTION.

THE STATE COLLECTED TOO MUCH MONEY COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS ALLOWED TO SPEND.

INSTEAD OF REFUNDING THE MONEY TO THE TAXPAYERS THEY WOULD CREATE A NEW WELFARE PROGRAM.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TAXPAYERS WHO PAID $400 IN TAXES.

THEY GET THEIR $400 REFUNDED AND MAYBE $5,000 ON TOP OF THAT.

THAT IS NOT A REFUND, THAT IS A WELFARE PROGRAM.

>> I HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THIS.

OJ SIMPSON WHETHER YOU LIKE HIM OR HATE HIM HIS CRIMINAL CASE BECAME A REFERENDUM WHETHER BLACK AMERICANS HAD TRUST IN BOTH POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

HE MAY NOT BEEN THE PERSON DESERVING THE SYMPATHY AND SUPPORT.

BUT HIS CASE HIGHLIGHT SOME ISSUES IN OUR COUNTRY.

PERIOD.

>> OKAY.

>> THE SNOW IS GONE.

IT IS GETTING WARMER.

THE ROADS ARE FULL OF POTHOLES.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS NUMBER OF POTHOLES IN ARIZONA.

I'M ANNOYED BY THEM.

>> WE ALL ARE.

>> NOT THAT MUCH SNOW IN ARIZONA.

I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING NICE.

THE CIVIC CENTER PART THEY FIGURED OUT POWER PLANTING.

CIVIC CENTER RAISING THE MONEY, WORKING WITH VOLUNTEERS, WE WILL SEE GARDENS THIS SUMMER.

>> DAVID?

>> THE PIONEERS HOCKEY TEAM LAST SEASON NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.

GETTING READY TO COMPETE IN THE FROZEN FOUR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP AGAIN.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY DENVER NUGGETS BUT I WANT TO GO BROADER THAN THAT.

I KNEW MORE STARS AND PLAYERS IN THE WOMEN'S NCAA TOURNAMENT THAN I DID IN THE MEN'S NCAA TOURNAMENT.

IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE PEOPLE FINALLY TUNING IN TO THE WOMEN'S GAME.

>> THEY WILL NOW FOREVER.

SO EXCITING.

GREAT GAMES.

GREAT PLAYERS.

>> WE CAN START -- AGAIN.

I CANNOT WAIT.

I WILL START THIS SATURDAY.

>> GOOD LUCK.

>> MY HIGH OF THE WEEK BOULDER CAMPUS I MET UP WITH THEM THIS WEEK.

THE STUDENTS WERE SO ENGAGED AND ATTENTIVE AND HAD THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS.

I LOVE MY FIELD OF JOURNALISM.

PEOPLE QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF THE MEDIA.

THEY HAD SOME PUSH BACK FROM PEERS WHY YOU ARE STUDYING JOURNALISM.

I FEEL FORTUNATE TO MEET THESE GREAT STUDENTS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO PURSUING DEGREES.

THEY ARE READY TO GO.

WAY TO GO KIDS.

WAY TO GO BUFFS.

I LOVED IT.

THANK YOU PANEL.

WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.

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